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No Pau. No Drew. But both K Brothers. So basically, an even trade off, right?
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November 06, 2009 at 08:49 PM
JORDAN, SHANNON, AND SASHA
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I agreed with most of BK’s excellent assessment of the relative values and basketball skills of Jordan, Shannon, and Sasha. The only insight I questioned was BK’s opinion that Shannon is most likely to win the job as the first guard of the bench even though Jordan is getting more playing time. I don’t buy the concept that Phil is not playing Shannon because he wants to see what Jordan can do.
To me, it is more logical that Jordan is getting more minutes because he is the best option to backup Fisher, who plays significantly fewer minutes than Kobe, for whom Brown is the best backup option. While there may be situations where Shannon plays point guard because of the defensive matchup, I think Jordan will get most of the backup point guard minutes because he is the better point guard.
Maybe BK has some inside information that made him come to that conclusion because I don’t read the situation that way at all. To begin with, I think the decision of which guard comes off the bench first will depend upon whether it is Kobe or Fisher who is being replaced. The competition is to determine who will be the backup at point guard and who will be the backup at shooting guard.
Maybe I am blinded by my long-time support for Jordan, but I still think the job of first guard off the bench to backup Fisher is his to lose, just as I think that the job of first guard off the bench to backup Kobe is Shannon’s to lose. Unfortunately, that means that Sasha Vujacic will be the man left out because he is not as good a point guard backup as Jordan or shooting guard backup as Shannon.
What it comes down to in my mind is that the Lakers play best with a point guard to manage the floor, run the offense, control the pace, feed the post, and push the ball in transition. Right now, I think that point guard is still going to be Derek Fisher. His play making ability, clutch shooting, veteran savvy, defensive toughness, and leadership skills are a big part of why we are the NBA champions.
What Jordan’s critics fail to appreciate is the value a true point guard can give the Lakers as a team. To think that Shannon can develop enough point guard skills at this point in his career and become the Lakers starting point guard is pure fantasy in my mind. Don’t get me wrong. I love Shannon and think he will be a valuable bench player for the Lakers for years but he is NOT a point guard.
Triangle Offense or not, the Lakers still need a starting and backup point guard who have solid point guard skills. The issue is not whether they could win without point guards but how much better they would be with point guards. That tells me that Jordan Farmar is still the leading candidate to back up Derek Fisher at point guard. Now he just needs to go out and play well enough to win the job.
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[email protected]November 06, 2009 at 09:46 PM
The bench mob absolutely killed it tonight.
MBenga played admirably as a starter.
Powell shot the lights out
Luke with 7 rebounds, 7 assists, and a 3
Shannon with 2 points and 3 assists
Farmar with better shooting including 2-3 on 3's, 4 rebounds & 2 assists.
Even AmMo and Sasha played well in limited minutes.
And most importantly, when the bench mob played in the first half, they basically
played even with Memphis, and in the 4th, they EXTENDED THE LEAD!!! When
was the last time you could say that?
I know it was only Memphis, but I think the reports of the bench mob's demise
may be premature.
Long Time Laker Fan |
November 06, 2009 at 10:22 PM
Fix the Jinx!
Please play DJ instead of Bynum against the Grizzlies from now on...
November 06, 2009 at 10:41 PM
IT'S FUNNY HOW THE SPORTS MEDIA SPECIALLY ESPN DON'T LIKE KOBE AND WILL ALWAYS PUT LEBRON AHEAD OF HIM NO MATTER WHAT HE DOES OR WHAT ACCOMPLISHMENTS HE MAKES.....I'M NOT A LEBRON FAN NOR A HATER.. I KNOW HE IS A VERY TALTENTED DUDE, BUT C'MON HE'S WAY YOUNGER AND STRONGER THAN KOBE.. THIS ASSES DON'T TAKE THAT IN CONSIDERATION.. YOU JUST CAN'T COMPARE THIS TWO GUYS BOTH OF THEM ARE VERY GOOD AT THEIR POSITION PLUS LEBRON IS A BIT TALLER THAN KOBE TOO... IT'S OBVIOUS THE MEDIA DOESN'T APPRECIATE KOBE'S ACCOMPLISHMENTS ANYMORE JUST BECAUSE LEBRON CAN JUMP HIGHER AND DUNK ON ANYONE DON'T MEAN HE IS BETTER THAN KOBE...KOBE DID THAT TOO WHEN HE WAS LEBRONS AGE AND I BET HE CAN STILL DO THAT, BUT HE KNOWS HE IS BEEN PLAYING A DIFFERENTE ROLL FOR THE LAST TWO SEASONS AND HE DOESNT WANT TO RISK TO GET HURT SINCE EVERYBODY JUST JUMPS ON HIM EVERYTIME HE TRIES TO DUCK OR DRIVE TO THE BASKET.... ANYWHO I JUST WANTED TO SHARE THIS WITH ALL OF YOU I HOPE THOS ASSES READ IT AND START TO APPRECIATE THE BEST PLAYER IN THE GAME TODAY..
KOBE TODAY LEBRON TOMORROW.
KOBE AND LAKERS FAN FOR LIFE!!
KOBE'S TRUE FAN |
November 06, 2009 at 10:42 PM
Yeah the mob was better tonight, I thought Ron-Ron did a real nice job baby sitting.
I can't say enough about Ron's play lately. He's a much better passer than I realized, though I like Trevor a lot, def think that Ron's going to be a real upgrade. One question, does Ron have you-know-who's disease? Doesn't look like he can dunk from a stand still anymore.
November 06, 2009 at 10:52 PM
I've been worried about the bench, but they came through well tonight...Good game from Ron...oh, and that Kobe kid might be a keeper...
christopher blake |
November 06, 2009 at 11:30 PM
Grizzlies are the cure all for offensive ineptitude. Laker bench looked like All-Stars tonight.
Artest played his best game as a Laker by far. In 37 minutes, he was a +28 (by contrast, in 29 minutes, Odom was a +0) and looked completely comfortable in the offensive flow. Sure, it was against the Grizz but hopefully this is a sign of things to come.
Oh yeah. And that Kobe guy is kinda good. One might even consider doubling him on occasion, right Grizzlies? No? Ok then.
November 07, 2009 at 12:19 AM
Kobe's found his Scottie in Ron Artest.
November 07, 2009 at 12:39 AM
What happened to LO? He looked like the old bad LO instead of the new good LO.
Anyway, this was his first substandard game of the season and I guess anyone is entitled to a bad one.
Except for that Bryant kid. Wow. At 31, currently leading the NBA in scoring. Incorporating Dreamshake moves into his game. He's posting up and getting closer to the basket this season than in the last 2 seasons when I thought he settled too often for jump shots. This may be his best year yet.
Lakers still winning at an 80% rate w/out their second best player and this is because of Mr. MVP.
W/out Pau and Drew, and w/LO having a bad game, we needed DFish tonight and he stepped up.
And so did DJ Mbenga. He tied the entire Grizzlies team for blocked shots and had 13 rebounds in a rare 30 minutes of burn.
But the game ball goes to Ron-ron. Because the bench never looked better than tonight when he played w/the reserves. He played more minutes than any Laker and was a +28. He tied DFish for most assists and still had a 50% FG. Coach 10 rings made a master move playing Artest w/the bench.
It made the bench defense better and Ron had a chance to be option No. 1 on offense w/c I'm sure he liked. And Artest is turning out to be perhaps the best passer in the entire team! Take that Chuckster!
The bench stepped up too as Powell, Farmar and Luke looked good (again credit to Ron Artest). Even Sasha didn't look too bad on his limited minutes.
Expect to see more Ron playing with the bench mob in future games. I'm sure he's not going to mind the minutes.
We were kinda lucky to face the defense challenged Grizzlies on the day that Pau and Drew were both out. NO on Sunday will be a tougher test.
With Pau just coming back from a long layoff, expect the Hornets to go to David West who has burned the Lakers before. Watch out for dirty play from CP3 who's turning out to be a punk.
November 07, 2009 at 12:47 AM
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