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Ron Artest: Half man. Half dog. Half brick.

Such was the visual created by Ron Artest after being asked if, as the only ring-less member of the defending champion Los Angeles Lakers, he felt more like "the chased" or "the chaser."  After a brief delve into "chicken and egg" philosophy ("If you're chasing somebody who's chasing something, then I don't know what you're gonna chase."), Artest then equated the scenario to a visual guaranteed to make me laugh.

"It's like two dogs with a tail, right?  They got the tail.  As much as they're chasing my tail, I'm chasing their Catdog003 tail.  It's kinda crazy.  I'm not chasing my tail.  There's a tail in front of me.  I'm chasing their tail. "

I get what Ron's saying, but if I may take the liberty of tweaking his analogy a bit... he may feel like a dog while pursuing his first championship, but he wouldn't be really be chasing the tail of another "dog" (i.e., the league's other 29 teams), because they're also currently without hardware, too. In reality, Ron's a dog chasing a trophy. A trophy with a tail (and theoretically legs, since it's leading Ron Ron on a circular chase)?  Sure.  Perhaps even the offspring of a dog and trophy who love each other and don't care who judges them, a back story I imagine is similar to the lovable cartoon character Catdog.  I'm no expert in genetics (or animation), so I can't really say for certain.  But in any event, it's a trophy with a tail pinned on it like a donkey, and Artest won't rest until the quest is completed.

From there, Artest's new physicality took an even more interesting turn, as he explained what lies ahead for the opposition attempting to stand in the way of Canine Ron uniting with a caudaled O'Brien.  "As much as people are coming after us, they've got somebody that's going to be coming very hard.  Even if the Lakers Thingiconic2 are complacent or whatever, which I doubt it.  I know it's not true.  But even if they were, I'm not.  So, they're gonna continue to run into brick walls and everything.  They're gonna continue into brick walls.  So they might as well give up.  Don't even play (the season).  Just give up."

Granted, Ron said that while smiling and us media types were riffing along, so I would treat the "just give up" sentiment as more "tongue in cheek" than "bulletin board." But it did add another layer to the X-Man-ish mutant Artest was transforming into before our very eyes. Not just man and dog, folks, but man, dog and brick. I'm picturing a creature similar to "The Thing," but with a little bit of Rottweiler in the mix.  And probably a number shaved into the back of his head at some point.  And fingers able to handle a very active Twitter account. 

By the way, if you're thinking that I'm thinking "photoshop contest with tailed trophies and dog/brick Artest," then you and I are simpatico, friend-o. If you got the time, we've got the email. kambrothers@yahoo.com. As I think has been well established, we live for this sort of wacky nonsense.

Well, Ron the Brick Dog's quest to wear a ring on his collar will be aided greatly by his ability to meld into the Lakers system, a process that's seen gradual improvement (most notably last night's effort against the Clippers), but has remained nonetheless a work in progress. In a way, I figured Artest might feel a little less pressure to make it happen ASAP, as his new team's talent level prevents them from being utterly dependant on an immediate "light bulb" moment.  I figured wrong. "You always want to be held accountable," explained Artest. "Everybody should be held accountable, so to speak. You don't want to come to a situation, knowing that it's a championship team and just sit back... you might not win. So everybody's gotta put in that extra time."

The video begins with Ron talking about his late friend Mike Chatfield, a basketball mentor 37 recently claimed is the best he's ever faced, including Kobe Bryant and Brandon Roy.

On the flip side, even as Artest deals with the inevitable trial and error accompanying the early season, he remains confident in the D that's been his calling card. Like, really confident. "Confident enough that you're comfortable labeling Kobe an 'improved' defender" confident.

And finally, a little from Phil Jackson about Adam Morrison's rising comfort level, the proximity-centric preseason opponents (Charlotte aside) and his trio of backup guards.

Oh, when Phil refers to Lamar Odom as "the best" over Pau Gasol and Luke Walton, he was ranking their respective health. Of the three nursing injuries, LO basically had a full practice today and is considered probable for tomorrow's game against Golden State, while Pau/Luke were limited and remain doubtful.

AK

 
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golly, i like Ron...


Wes & LAFan888,


I think it is obvious that Andrew is doing exactly what his coaches instructed him to do by trying to stay ahead of the ball and beat his man to the other end in transition. I also think we will see more of it as long as the Lakers are still controlling the offensive glass. And if you check the rebounding stats so far this preseason, including last night, you’ll see the Lakers controlled the defensive boards.
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Who gets the boards does not really count. Last night, Drew stayed back more and grabbed 13 boards because Lamar and Pau were out. Even then, there were times when Drew was pulled to perimeter by his defender and thus had opportunities to try and beat his man down court and seal him in the post. This is all by Phil’s design. If you remember, we did the exact same thing with Kwame Brown.
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Fans need to understand just like there are only so many shots, there are also only so many rebounds. If we can control the boards with Pau or Lamar, then we are going to see Drew sprinting to the other end to post up for an easy shot every time he is not directly involved in the play. It is a great strategy to combat teams drawing Drew out to the perimeter. Mostly, however, it speeds up the tempo of the game which we like, often forces the other team to concede the rebound, and best creates a mismatch where Drew has deep low post position or is ready for an easy dunk of a lob if a Laker penetrates.


Tom

http://tinyurl.com/yfo3ds4

barring catastrophic injury, this is going to be a great year!

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LakerTom and Laker Truth,

The funny thing is, regarding this position, all 3 guys in question are having nice preseasons. Jordan is making some great decisions, Shannon is making athletic plays, and Sasha's been hot. They aren't making it easy to see what Phil is going to do.

The only thing that I think we can see is that the first unit does not need the sort of guidance a point guard can give. A shooter or the best defender of the 3 can play there next to Kobe. Then when Jordan come in, that person slide to the 2, being Kobe's back up.

Of the 2 combos (Jordan/Sasha or Jordan/Brown), the latter is obviously more spectacular and more defensively astute. However, I wouldn't deny that Sasha doesn't have something to add here. His presence creates spacing and an outlet when the all else fails.

Again, all of their minutes will overlap in someway. Additionally, were seeing these guys play without Lamar in the mix (who himself is a viable ball handler and post up) or Luke (who helps organize the offense, one of Jordan's functions). If anything, I think 3/4s of the season will be taken up in trying to find a good mix. Phil didn't figure out the small forward position for awhile either. I kinda see it going that way.

Re: Farmar ... Last year Jordan got off to a great start and hit the wall around the time of his injury. He never got his groove back until late in the playoffs. If he can stay healthy, this could be the year he proves himself.


AK,


>>> …I imagine is similar to the lovable cartoon character Catdog.


ROFLMAO, Andy. I warned Jon K. that you can’t trust a dog when he gets a pretty cat alone. Now we have a weird offspring situation similar to AVP. Seriously, how did you ever find the time to learn how to write so well since you obviously spent humungous hours indulgently soaking in pop culture? Ron is lucky you and Brian are so fair-minded. Imagine what a hoard of New York sports journalists would have done with the sports psychologist (thankfully, not psychiatrist for obvious reasons, lol).


By the way, I never before heard of Catdog but talk about some potential personality conflicts and whose chasing whom. And I bet you were thrilled with the image options after googling Catdog. Anyway, Wiki answered the question as to why I never heard of Catdog. 1998-2004 was post-kid and pre-grand kid time for me. Ron is certainly the best thing that could have happened to the KamBros. It’s your and BK’s version of the Pau Gasol trade. Ariza for Artest is worth millions of hits.


Tom


AK,


Superb summation of the situation. Once the dust settled, we agree 100% about all 3 of these guys. It’s even possible in my mind that we keep them both for the same pay and they end up in some form of matchup platooning. One would start but both would play similar minutes. And that could work perfectly if both mature and learn to do what they each do best consistently with good judgment.


Tom

“…#4,
I think you are right that Farmar should lead the second unit at PG, but with Phil's plans of limiting Fish's minutes this season, the question is who is going to get the PG minutes with the starting unit when Fish is resting? Shannon is better suited to play with the starting unit that already has three great playmakers in Kobe, Gasol and Artest. This unit does not need a true PG to run the offense, they need someone who will not dominate the ball, plays tough defense and hit the open shot."

TRUTH- I like the point you make about the second unit needed more help with sharing the ball. I’m impressed enough that I’m going to ignore the Luke bashing in the second paragraph (not reproduced here) and instead point out that farmar should be following Lukes lead more…passing the ball and playing selflessly to benefit the team instead of worrying about minutes. Good deal.

And I’m so happy to see AK and LT playing nicely again, and I like this segment from AK:

“ ‘Honestly, I don't really think Shannon or Farmar has a true edge on the other when it comes to replacing Fisher. Both have a LONG way to go before looking in the rear view, so for now, I'm just content to see both playing well. I understand the urge to speculate (it's fun) and it's obviously a big decision facing the organization and the players. But in reality, neither strikes me as remotely in the driver's seat.
AK
Posted by: Andrew and Brian Kamenetzky | October 19, 2009 at 07:56 PM "


Definite words of wisdom we all should listen to, especially ShanWow. He should not be anointed prematurely, he should prove he can be the better option defensively. No more easy praise for UPS, he needs to earn his stripes as a man! Now Go! ShanWoW! Go up that hill in the face of enemy fire and go through that enemy fire…and when you go you will not be alone! NO! You follow the rallying cry of Aunt Petunias favorite blue eyed nephew, Benjamim Grimm, The Thing; IT’S CLOBBERIN’ TIME! Aint no way either Doctor Doom or Chris Paul can stand when the Big Brick Dog of Clobberin and the mighty force of the shanwow come to play.

Or something. my comics metaphors might not be quite true to the source. Apologies. May the all seeing Watcher forgive me.


I'm just now getting a chance to catch up on blog reading and it's good stuff. Artest is a fascinating guy and I don't mean that in the sort of trainwreck commentary way that has so typified discussion in the past (or pre-Lakers). His life truly seems a continued work in progress and what's especially interesting to me, is how much it dovetails with themes relating to Phil. If there were to be a defining word in Jackson's lexicon it would probably be "journey"... the word and its various associations are a staple in all his writings. And, it's hard not to see a connection to Artest, a guy whose life and career is so much part and parcel to a journey played out in the public eye. When you consider that Jackson has long commented on a desire to coach Artest and vice-versa, and look at certain connective threads (from "Maverick" tendencies to Artest's recent willingness to work with a sports psychologist and Jackson's long afinity for same), it opens up all sorts of avenues of discussion. Okay, that was a stupidly long sentence. I'm gonna go now. I should have just said that it could be a real defining season.

BLOG CRUE
Tough loss for our Dodgers.

Colorado loves our World Champion Lakers!

Ron's going to be real hungry because he's going to WATCH them get those rings and want one, Drew's going to be hungry because of last years injury and not being 100% for the finals, Sasha has something to prove this year and will shoot lights out, Morrison knows this is the year to perform for a contract, with the Lakers or another team, and Farmar and Brown are battling it out for the point guard spot, Lamar has a new wife that likes to spend $$$, Fisher want's to prove he's not over the hill, Kobe is always intense, and Pau is MR consistent, Mbenga is pure energy, Powell and Luke are fighting for minutes, so who does that leave for being complacent ???

Hugo,

Dodgers got into a huge hole, it is a payback of Game 2. Meanwhile here in Anaheim the rally monkey beaten Yankee power who are paid based on home run production. They all looked like the clone of Drew Bynum powered by LT.

With regards to Ron Artest, I would not use the dog analogy because he does not feed his own dog in Sacto. I would use his foot analogy, Ron maybe moving forward with the Lakers right now, he's not sure whether to go first with right foot or his left foot, unfortunately, both are chasing each other on who should come first. Artest is currectly battling the good and evil on the floor while learning the triangle. I noticed that hel makes a living in the post and will try all kinds of tricks to get rebounds by locking arms, clothesline, wrestling that's Artest art of defense. He did this to Nacione, Wallace, Radman, Biedrins, Kaman and Griffin. If you lose your temper, that's when trouble starts. I remember a game when Ron was still with the Bulls, he wrestled the ball from Shaq with a hard foul at his back and when Shaq turned around he saw Brad Miller so he thought it was Brad who did it, so he choked his neck till fights broke out. This is what teams fear with the Lakers today, they got the bully or the gutsy Artest joining the finesse team, it became a combination defense and offense disruptions.

An article from the Charlotte paper about Ammo plus the comments of Charlotte fans.

http://tinyurl.com/ylc6r9c

I think they were right on those Adam's shots, he cannot create his own shot, slow in defense but a reliable shooter as 4th option. Adam will flourish in the Lakers offense because he is not the first option in the offense and yet he can deliver the those last two second shots that Walton consistently missed. Will he be a Laker at the end of the season? Maybe, but not a 5M because that's translated to 10M with the Lakers based on luxury taxes. He has to maintain at least 8 PPG as a reserve to get back his job.

With regards to the three PG situation, Lakers will be at a luxury of getting the best returns from a healthy competition throughout the year. PJ can play two PG at a time and still bring good results just like the game the other night. By February, that's the moment of decision on Farmar's contract, same problem with Adam I don't think Lakers will give him 5M (which means 10M) per year. In the end, it will be a choice of who among the future free agents will be retained or let go.

Words to live by:

Just do it.

It's clobbering time.

Just give up.

You just got to love this guy.

Ron's going to be real hungry because he's going to WATCH them get those rings and want one, Drew's going to be hungry because of last years injury and not being 100% for the finals, Sasha has something to prove this year and will shoot lights out, Morrison knows this is the year to perform for a contract, with the Lakers or another team, and Farmar and Brown are battling it out for the point guard spot, Lamar has a new wife that likes to spend $$$, Fisher want's to prove he's not over the hill, Kobe is always intense, and Pau is MR consistent, Mbenga is pure energy, Powell and Luke are fighting for minutes, so who does that leave for being complacent ??? Posted by: tomK | October 19, 2009 at 10:16 PM

10RINGS! LOL! He has nothing to prove he's the best of all time. Has the biggest paycheck of all coaches. Is dating the coaches daughter. Has a good relationship with his ex-wife. Has a team that is motivated to run the table for several more years. But still Phil may do the best coaching of his career sitting on his thrown looking bemused. My God the SOB has it all and I LOVE IT!!

AK/BK,

Any word on Gaffney?

The games have yet to be played, but you've gotta love what Artest is saying!

Good Morning ... LA sports fans! Another tough "Game 4" loss for your LA sports team. The Dodgers, like the Lakers, found a way to come from ahead and lose a pivotal Game 4. But Im sure you consider the Dodgers to be "irrelevant" anyways since they havent won a Title in 20+ yrs and only 2 postseason series wins in that same 20+ yrs. Looks like another 20 yrs before they win again. Great to listen to the "Beat LA" chant last nite in Phily ... it never gets old.

CORRECTION: Is dating the coaches daughter, SHOULD READ
is dating the owners daughter. SORRY, THANK YOU!
MAMBA24

Great to listen to the "Beat LA" chant last nite in Phily ... it never gets old. Posted by: 131-92 | October 20, 2009 at 07:47 AM

It shouldn't never get old my friend, especially since the
Celtics are always chanting it after failing to make the playoffs.

It shouldn't never get old my friend, especially since the
Celtics are always chanting it after failing to make the playoffs.

Posted by: Mamba24 | October 20, 2009 at 08:30 AM

Mamba24-

Mamba my friend ... This year not only are you gonna hear the "Beat LA" chant but your gonna hear ... ANYTHINGS POSSIBLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLE!

Mamba my friend ... This year not only are you gonna hear the "Beat LA" chant but your gonna hear ... ANYTHINGS POSSIBLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLE! Posted by: 131-92 | October 20, 2009 at 08:41 AM

NO, NO, NO!! Please OH my God!!! Anything but that!
OH THE HUMANITY! One "... ANYTHINGS POSSIBLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLE!
every couple of decades is all that is permitted!

Ok, I actually feel (almost) guilty at the thought of potentially being a Bynum basher. He's actually my second favorite player on the team behind Fish. I certainly recognize the advantage of getting easy buckets by releasing quickly and being the opposing center down the court. I'm also pretty sure that a lot of the rebounds that Kobe and Artest have been getting would otherwise be going to Drew. I guess it's just a concern about how he looks moving around and his effort level on that end of the court. I'm concerned about the team defense if he's not motivated and moving well. They still have an issue with stopping penetration and he's the last line of defense. He looked ok the other night and in years past he seemed to need time to play himself into better shape. I just hope that the case this time around.

Also, with regard to Farmar and Ammo playing well in the preseason, I totally agree that they look good. However, with Farmar, given the lack of defensive speed at the point, like Bynum, I could care less about him shooting well. I could live with Jordan shooting poorly if he became a better defender. I'm not sure that with this team it's ok for him to simply make up for it with more offense. (Then again, if you can't defend, at least you can help with scoring.)

In any event, I've been overly concerned before and things have turned out ok. Sometimes it just takes a little patience and faith...but sometimes I'd feel more comfortable hedging my bets and making a trade.


TOUGH TIMES1

Girardi gave one to the Angels and the mother ship killed the icons and returned the blog to that cramped-text look that is nearly impossible to read. We’re just LAT test animals in an experiment. Complain about too many green icons and they take away all our icons. That’ll teach us. LOL

Tom


TOUGHER TIMES!

Now even double spacing doesn’t work.

Tom



TOUGHEST TIMES!


Testing double spacing again. I think this will work.


Tom


Good morning Mamba24 & the fabulous Laker morning CRUE!!

GAME DAY BABY!! (I know - it's only preseason but I'm still excited).

Regarding Thriller - every day I like him more. Half self-aware man, half snarly dog on defense, half brick wall - what's not to like?

I thought it interesting that he said he never gets frustrated.... What were we seeing in times past? Anger? Insanity? Or just intense competition? I'm guessing the latter, but I'll take a healthy dose of lunacy ON DEFENSE all season long - lol!

131-and-done - You're right. Anything's possible. Like your green weenies being obsolete for another 20 years. Or like your boys making millions off Polydent & Depends commercials. BTW - I laugh hysterically when your fans start chanting "Beat LA". First off - it's completely unoriginal. Secondly - it usually means the fans are afraid, your players are sucking, and they're trying to boost their shredded confidence. HAHAHAHAHA!!

BRING IT ON!

REALITY BITES – Dedicated to 131-92
Three preseason games then it’s for real, Septics I can’t tell you how sorry I feel
We got this and we wan’t more, the season willl be over after we hit the first score
You might as well start planning for next season, you can’t win, give me one good reason
The only reason to watch my friend, is to see how many games over 70 the Lakers will win.
If we just want to toy with you, we might take a rest after win seventy two
But if you start talking jive, then we won’t let up till we win sevety-five
“ ANYTHINGS POSSIBLE” I heard a man say, but the very next season he did not play
Can you hear me Mr. 131-92, at the end of the season you’ll be chanting “BEAT LA” too.
Yes you’ll be chanting as you roll away, Paul Pierce in the wheelchair cause he’s had his day
Rasheed wallace is as old as dirt, he avoids contact cause he’s afraid to get hurt
One look at Ron_Ron and KG will say, “ANYTHINGS POSSIBLE but not today”
Then Big Baby willl give a try, until he see’s the Beast, then he’ll start to cry.
Then all will turn to Black Jesus for hope, but Black Jesus Wept, he aint no dope
The crowd will yell win one for Red, but after seeing Phils 10Rings the old fool fled
But I don’t blame him he never was a fool, He knows that 9Rings would take his azz to school
I salute the Septics they were the cream of the crop, then for 20 years they played like slop.
So a that’s about it 131-92, We’re the Freakin Champion LA Lakers who the Hell are you

131-and-done - You're right. Anything's possible. Like your green weenies being obsolete for another 20 years. Or like your boys making millions off Polydent & Depends commercials. BTW - I laugh hysterically when your fans start chanting "Beat LA". First off - it's completely unoriginal. Secondly - it usually means the fans are afraid, your players are sucking, and they're trying to boost their shredded confidence. HAHAHAHAHA!!

BRING IT ON!

Posted by: justanothermambafan | October 20, 2009 at 09:28 AM

justa-

Since your an expert on fan psychology ... please explain to me what it means when Laker fan stands behind Norm Nixon and Rick Fox and chants "Boston Sucks" after every home game? Even if they just beat the Clippers or the Cavs!

BTW isnt Rick Fox afraid off being seen on TV and having Mrs Christie see him?

Mamba24-

Almost didnt recognize you without your GREEN icon!

How about an experiment on the blog of a gold background, purple in prints and black & white ads.? If it can be done, put Mamba24's roll call in a scroll. Try it for a month and see if traffic will increase.


Lafan888,


>>> Ok, I actually feel (almost) guilty at the thought of potentially being a Bynum basher.


LOL. That was pretty funny. I can understand the frustration about defense. The Clippers had a freeway right to the rim Sunday night and most NBA players are pretty savvy about cashing in when they get a 2 on 1 against a big man. Like Drew said earlier, it’s a tough situation. If he goes for the penetrator, then he leaves his man open for an easy dunk. Then everybody complains because his man got an easy dunk. The answer is that even the center’s defense has to be part of team defense.
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It’s easy to say that what we need from Drew most are defense and rebounding but we are not talking about Ben Wallace or some offensively challenged big man. We’re talking about a 21-year old center (Drew finally turns 22 on October 27th, the Lakers opening day – ring day for the birthday boy) who already has better offensive footwork and low post moves than most veteran centers. What I think we are seeing is Drew finding his comfort zone offensively because that’s what comes naturally.
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Physically, Drew has really improved his conditioning and is faster and quicker than before but he is never going to be a quick-jumping hot-synapse athletic freak like Dwight Howard. That does not mean, however, that he cannot become a better center down the road than Dwight. Drew has lots of offensive weapons already that Dwight might never develop. He will likely be a better offensive center than Dwight. His challenge will be developing into a better defender and rebounder. One thing to remember, however, is that he is not going to post rebounding numbers like Dwight because of Pau and Lamar. Just as Kobe is not going to get as many shots or points per game as LeBron.


T0m


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REALITY BITES – Dedicated to 131-92
Three preseason games then it’s for real, Septics I can’t tell you how sorry I feel
We got this and we wan’t more, the season willl be over after we hit the first score
You might as well start planning for next season, you can’t win, give me one good reason
The only reason to watch my friend, is to see how many games over 70 the Lakers will win.
If we just want to toy with you, we might take a rest after win seventy two
But if you start talking jive, then we won’t let up till we win sevety-five
“ ANYTHINGS POSSIBLE” I heard a man say, but the very next season he did not play
Can you hear me Mr. 131-92, at the end of the season you’ll be chanting “BEAT LA” too.
Yes you’ll be chanting as you roll away, Paul Pierce in the wheelchair cause he’s had his day
Rasheed wallace is as old as dirt, he avoids contact cause he’s afraid to get hurt
One look at Ron_Ron and KG will say, “ANYTHINGS POSSIBLE but not today”
Then Big Baby willl give a try, until he see’s the Beast, then he’ll start to cry.
Then all will turn to Black Jesus for hope, but Black Jesus Wept, he aint no dope
The crowd will yell win one for Red, but after seeing Phils 10Rings the old fool fled
But I don’t blame him he never was a fool, He knows that 9Rings would take his azz to school
I salute the Septics they were the cream of the crop, then for 20 years they played like slop.
So a that’s about it 131-92, We’re the Freakin Champion LA Lakers who the Hell are you
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ALL TOGETHER NOW
We’re the World Champion LA Lakers , we’ve won 15 Rings
10 of the 50 Greatest players played under our wings
We’ve had 4 Laker Dynasties, but who’s keeping score
That’s 3 better than any team ever had before
The best Winning Percentage in History, yeah that’s true
You want Hall of Fame Coaches, Check it, we’ve got two.
We got the GOAT & Finals MVP in Kobe Bryant
The list of Laker greats starts with Mr. George Mikan
We Claim Shaq, Magic, Wilt, Elgin & Kareem
Worthty, Silk & Goodrich, we take only the cream
"We Borrowed A Glove. Rented a Mailman. Created A Logo. Are Creating A Beast."
We’re coached by a 10 time Title Winner who learned Zen in the East
Chick Hearn the Legend, Broadcasted our Lakers Games
Now he’s Broadcasting from Heaven & is in the Hall of Fame
We got Sports Winningest and Best Owner in Dr. Jerry Buss
And The only one that can beat the Freakin La Lakers is us
That’s just a summary of our Resume, we don’t talk we Do.
We’re The Freaking LA LAKERS Who the Hell are You!!

How about an experiment on the blog of a gold background, purple in prints and black & white ads.? If it can be done, put Mamba24's roll call in a scroll. Try it for a month and see if traffic will increase. Posted by: Edwin Gueco | October 20, 2009 at 09:43 AM

THIS AD WAS PAID FOR BY MAMBA24! LOL!

Jordan, Shannon, and Sasha, have all played well in the backcourt. They will get their time on the court as match-ups dictate who gets the minutes. Plug-N-Play backcourt sounds good to me!

I sure would like to see Trevor at the Ring ceremony. Could it happen?

Mamba24- Almost didnt recognize you without your GREEN icon!
Posted by: 131-92 | October 20, 2009 at 09:42 A

OUCCCCH! STOP THAT! THAT HURTS!

131 & done,

>>>>
Great to listen to the "Beat LA" chant last nite in Phily ... it never gets old.
>>>>

Yep, it doesn't get old for you. You should be very used to hearing other home teams chant "Beat LA". You have had, and will have, many years of your teams (Red Sox, Septics, who-ever) out of the play-offs and have to watch as the LA teams go on.

How are the Sox doing? You said they'd beat the Angels and then the Dodgers?


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WHEN YOU WISH UPON A STAR

When you wish upon a star, makes no difference if a Lunatic you are
Look at KG and you will see one mad deranged star
Once KG he had a game, then the poor man pulled up lame
Now he can, hardly stand,much less say his name
And look at Paul Pierce he almost was a great, but alas it is the poor mans fate
To roll and roll and cry, and ask the fates why, Kobe’s so great
The Septics they tried something new, instead of one lunatic they now have 2
Along with KG, Rasheed is crazy, don’t believe me, just ask 131-92
So when you wish upon a star, Make sure the Lakers are far, far far
Far away, “Anything is Possible they say” Har de har, har

mud,

That was one of the funniest videos ever. Thank you for posting that link.

131-and-done - I've never claimed to be an expert on fan psychology. If I was, I'd know why you insist on coming onto a Laker's blog instead of inhabiting a green slime one of your own.

The chant of "Boston sucks" happens for one reason only - BECAUSE IT'S TRUE.

And as far as Mrs. Christie goes - I heard she's taken up with that bald-headed, barking lunatic KG. Anyone with any sense is afraid of that crazy man.

i ain't complaining, at least the icons are gone. it's a bit much to complain about the icons being there and then complain when they go, too.

oh no, i have to double space! waah.

I heard what LakerTom said in the other thread, and I hear what Ron Ron is saying here, but I'm just guessing that Boston will NOT be on top of the East this season.

I could be wrong, but that's my guess -

We shall see.

Now, historically LakerTom, I can buy into what you're saying, but that's a history spanning like 5 decades. In the last 2 decades, there's hardly been a rivalry, mostly because the greenies have been irrelevant for 19 of the 20. In that span, we've been to the finals 7 times and won 4 titles, and pretty much been competitive the whole time (and the year we weren't, Kobe was doing things like lighting up the western confernce champs for 62 in 3)

Taking history aside, I'm curious about THIS SEASON.

Who will we consider our worthiest opponent?

But enough about posing questions - I'm really feeling good just watching preseason and taking note of how the various guys are looking. I'm very please Sasha has found his shot (he was a major reason why we made it to the 08 finals down two starters), Farmar is healthy and playing wonderfully, Ammo will match or surpass his rookie campaign - and well the bulk of the team we already know - they're the defending world champs.

Can't wait until next week when the season begins, when we get to separate hype from hope and champ from chump

NO MORE GREEN ICONS!!


WOOOOOO HOOOOOOOOOO!


Now you need to bust out the Purple & Gold ones.


It can't be THAT difficult, right??!!!

Mamba24-

Good work! If you get your GREEN icon back maybe we will let you lead the "TROLL CALL."


How are the Sox doing? You said they'd beat the Angels and then the Dodgers?


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Posted by: HBMatt | October 20, 2009 at 10:16 AM

FloorMatt-

Please dont put words in my post. I never said I was a Sox fan. I stand behind everything I say but not crap you make up! Please kindly show me where I said I was a Sox fan and we were gonna beat the Angels and Dodgers.

Get off the floor ... shake yourself because I think you have your "Trolls" confussed!



ChicNstu,


>>> Plug-N-Play backcourt sounds good to me!


That is a perfect description of the Lakers backup guard triplets.
A solution for every back court matchup or need.


Tom

131 & done,

>>>>
shake yourself because I think you have your "Trolls" confussed!
>>>>

Sorry if I got my slime confused.
You know you all sound alike.

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Mamba24- Good work! If you get your GREEN icon back maybe we will let you lead the "TROLL CALL." Posted by: 131-92 | October 20, 2009 at 10:55 AM
Hot Dog!!! Now you talking brother! How’d you know that was my ambition in Life.
But for now I’ll leave you with a lil song.

SITTING IN THE NBA – TO THE TUNE – STTING ON THE DOCK OF THE BAY
DEDICATED TO 131 – 92

Sitting in The morning sun, I’ll be sitting after the Lakers have won
Watching them go out and win, And then watch them win the title again

I’m sitting in the NBA, Watching the Lakers win everyday
Ooo, I’m just sitting in the NBA wastin time

I left my home in Boston, headed for Freakin LA
Cause I’ve had nothing to live for, cause the Septics keep fading away

I’m sitting in the NBA, Watching the Lakers win everyday
Ooo, I’m just sitting in the NBA wastin time


Looks like nothings gonna change, Everything remains the same
Boston can’t seem to win for lose, So I guess I’ll remain the same

Sitting here resting my bones, And this loneliness won’t leave me alone
Two thousand miles I roamed, just to make Lakers Blog my home

I’m sitting in the NBA, Watching the Lakers win everyday
Ooo, I’m just sitting in the NBA wastin time

(whistle)

Mamba24,

Lo and behold, LakerTom sees the future. LAX is expanding 1 million sq feet at a cost of 1.5B. there will be 9 new gates in order to allow the 787 airliner ferry the future fans of Andrew Bynum from Boston, from San Francisco from everywhere as they travel to LA just to see Drew, the super duper All Star. Most of them are still in the process of coming to life. lol!

AK and BK - when I agreed to post on here, I "signed" a no insults policy. HBMatt just referred to all Celtics fans as "slime". Sounds like an insult to me - and totally unwarranted. Most of the people on here can take some good natured ribbing - I can, as well. But to be called a "slime" is un-classy and rude. Wouldn't you agree?
Please re-read some of his posts, I think he has a little problem with the agreement.
Thank you very much!

If Morrison plays his cards right he can turn this Lakers stint into a rebuilt career. He's going to have to accept a contract at the vets min, but if he does, he can jump start his career through all the exposure he'll be getting with LA. Because his actual cost to the team is that big 10 million, he's definitely not being traded and is becoming a free agent when his contract expires.


Normally I would say there is no way we even think about re-signing a guy like Morrison when we still need to re-sign Gasol. But because Morrison may come cheap (vets min) and because there is no way we bring back Sasha when his deal runs out after next season--and because we still need a reliable spot up shooter on the bench--Morrison may be a real option for this team.


There is no way Farmar comes back. And I see Jordan having a big year, too. We're just not going to pay Farmar mid-level type money when we've already established that salary range for all-star caliber guys like Artest. And after a big year with us, Farmar may get the money and starting spot he covets.


But I'd keep an eye on Morrison this year. I think the formula is right for him to create a nice little niche on this team and make progress toward an NBA career, if not a big, immediate pay day.


Wes

Mamba24,Lo and behold, LakerTom sees the future. LAX is expanding 1 million sq feet at a cost of 1.5B. Posted by: Edwin Gueco | October 20, 2009 at 11:23 AM

Yeah but Edwin, do you really think that will be big enough
for all Drews fans. Sounds like a tight squeeze to me. But I guess they will be willing to suffer a lil discomfort in order to see their idol. LOL!

There's a no insults policy? Sure wasn't in effect during the Smush/Kwame era where we got slaughtered day in and day out by "outsiders" (can't call them TROLLS - cause that could be perceived as an insult!).

Anyhooo...continuing my GET A GRIP theme...

Balloon Guy, Matt didn't insult you. He insulted your team. If the K-Bros had to police everytime somebody's team got insulted, we wouldn't have a blog!

Besides...isn't you complaining about insults a bit of the pot calling the kettle black? Before you retort, let me remind you that just the other day you called me a hypocrite. Not my team...but ME. Did I snitch on you to the K Bros?

Still,

Did I hurt your widdle feelings? So sorry.

I guess you must have been the one to say the Red Sux would beat the Angels & the Dodgers. Coulda been Red, don't think it was Owen. Doesn't matter.

Hey, I think being called a floor mat is an insult, so who's to draw the line?

I guess you think you have that right.
Sux to be you.

I don't think that's an insult, just my opinion.


LA Lakers 2009 NBA Champions

stillhave,
That is a compliment for a Celtics fan!!


ex,


>>> That is a compliment for a Celtics fan!!


ROFLMAO. That was great, ex. I would be happy if the only bad thing people called me was “slime.”
Talk about east coast sensitivity. A greenies troll asking AK and BK to stop the insults when their mere presence is an affront to all fans of purple and gold. What a joke.


Tom


HI Matt - NO, it wasn't me who mentioned the Red Sox. This is a basketball blog, and I try to stay on topic. Red Sux, that's a good one - never heard that before. You do realize you have to be 13 to post on here, right?

utz - I believe I apologized to you the other day, and I have no problem with you. But, 131 said, "It wasn't ME who said that." and Matt responded, "Sorry, got my slime mixed up, you all sound the same." No mention of the Celtics there. Just defending myself here - not getting into anything again with you. I wish you continued success in your Christian life. You are NOT a hypocrite, want me to apologize again for writing that?
It WAS an insult, and being new, just trying to find the limits of acceptable conduct here. Not that I would ever lower myself to calling another human being a slime. I will be curious to read any of Matt's BASKETBALL related comments, instead of his signature LA Lakers 2009 NBA Champions. My 8 yr old knows that!!! What else does Matty boy know?

I think Owenfromburbank & Balloon Guy are the same poster.

>>>>
What else does Matty boy know?
>>>>

Let's see.

I know I'm not such a big loser that I spend time on opposing teams blogs.
I have better things to do with my time.

Really, you should find a hobby.

Maybe knitting. Unless they don't let you play with sharp objects.


LA Lakers 2009 NBA Champions

ps. Glad to know your son knows who the NBA Champs are.

I applaud the notion of Thriller as "man-dog-brick" as a kind of virtuous counter-weight to the horrors of "man-bear-pig."

Someone has to protect us and I guess it's Thriller in his superhero personna of "Man-Dog-Brick."

Everyday NBA superstar by day; Earth-saving superhero by day.

It all makes sense now.

What do we play for? RINGS!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!!!

JUST REMEMBER.....CELTICS HAVE NO CHANCE FOR THE TITLE THIS SEASON...I DON'T CARE WHAT ANYONE SAYS...THEY F'IN SUCK!!!


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