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Poll Question of the Day: Gunning for the Bulls?

There's no denying the talent on this season's Lakers squad, winners of 65 games last season and improved with (hopefully) a full season of Andrew Bynum and (theoretically) the addition of Ron Artest. With that in mind, the notion of pushing to meet or break the record of 72 regular season wins set by Phil Jackson's '96 title team in Chicago was bandied about at practice yesterday, as noted in AK's report.

Jackson, killjoy that he is, shot down the whole idea (click here to see the video). Still, 72 (and beyond) is a subject that pops up fairly frequently here among readers, so there's clearly interest among fans, but to what extent? Vote here, register thoughts below.

I'm with PJ on this one. The big prize is the playoffs, and pushing for records risks losing the rhythm necessary to build for a proper title defense. 73 and a Larry O would undoubtedly be cool- what team wouldn't want to be launched into G.O.A.T. discussions- but the hardware alone is plenty. Don't be greedy. As the old investing strategy notes, "Bears and bulls make money. Hogs get slaughtered." 73 because the Lakers are just that good and it happens in the natural process of things? Fine. Gunning for it as a goal? Seems hoggish.

Other notes: It's a good day for legendary coaches. John Wooden turns 99 today (learn more about him here, and catch a short TrueHoop tribute here), and Mike Bresnahan reports the Lakers are hopeful that Tex Winter will be able to attend the ring ceremony on opening night.

BK

 
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Happy Birthday, Coach Wooden.

I'd vote for him to be the fifth face on Mt. Rushmore.


73 is a number, the Championship is a goal. When we get to 70 with a healthy roster and games to go, the players will want to make it happen.

I voted "no"

In all seriousness, they should be pushing for 82 wins, since they attempt to win every game, BUT setting an actual "goal" of 82 wins or 73 wins, or 50 wins, etc is child's play, foolish, and short sided.

The only real goal is O'Brien

Zenmaster 10(Rings) you have your 10 rings now give us that
73 WIN RECORD!!!
*
73 LAKER RECORD BANDWAGON **
*
(00) OWNER
(01) MAMBA24 - DRIVER - I WANT THAT RECORD AND I WANT IT NOW
THEY CAN TAKE BACK OUR ARRIZA BUT THEY WILL NEVER TAKE AWAY
OUR 73 WIIIIIIIIIIINS!!!!! ARE YOU WITH ME!

To quote the unofficial motto of Lakers Blog as craftedly created by Jon K:

WE PLAY FOR RINGS!

Damn a 73 win season. Damn the records. The only wins that matter are the 16 required in April/May/June that will secure us THE 16TH BANNER.

Nuff said.

Tushar,

That was an excellent response to LAKER TRUTH regarding Luke. I also see we agree pretty much on the Warriors and Tim Kawakami. I understand what you are saying about the A’s. My problem with that ownership is that they run the team to MAKE money rather than to WIN. It should be a great World Series if the Dodgers and Yankees go at it. I appreciate your seeing the big similarity between the Lakers and the Yankees – both teams plow their profits back into the team. That is what the A’s ownership does NOT do.

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Segeboy,

Thanks for the love. We seem to be getting into better blog-sync-think lately. Appreciate the sheriff sticking up for poor Luke. He is what he is and there will be moments when we will be glad he is our 10th or 11th man during the upcoming season. I believe he is a real positive for team chemistry.

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Blitz,

I thought you responded in excellent fashion to hobbitmage’s question about Kobe’s scoring and assists going down. I find it hard to envision a scenario where those stats go up unless there is an injury which we all will be praying won’t happen. Good to see the old Blitz we respect back in full force. Let’s you and I pledge to keep it cool between ourselves all season as we root for Pau and Drew to dominate.

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Kiwi,

Thanks for the kind words. I thought your expanded comments on the subject were right on. And while I always think race is a factor, I definitely don’t always think the result is racist. Would I root more for a white Kobe Bryant? Only if he were on the Lakers. LOL!

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wondahbap,

Right on! Luke is 10 times the player that Kwame never was. LAKER TRUTH is reaching too far.

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Tom

DO whatever will make the title more likely, which probably just means aiming at the best record for the season (home court). But even that should play hind fiddle to having the key players rested and healthy for the playoffs.

Jamie,

Hope you are feeling better although it is great to have you free to post and respond all day. Thankfully, I am back in my office with my back to the wall and nobody able to see whether I am reconciling a bank account or posting on the Lakers Blog. LOL.

I agree with you that Jordan is pretty clutch. I realize that I am biased because he is an ex-Bruin but I still remember how he showed up in the NCAA championship game against Florida and think he still has a chance to become our point guard of the future, especially considering that we can’t afford to pay much considering our luxury tax situation. But this is for sure his make or break year as a Laker.

Tom

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Laker Bloggers, Laker Nation this is something we need to do.
When we zip out those posts that we think are just for me and you
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Just remember before you post something infantile and mad
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HAPPY 99TH BIRTHDAY JOHN WOODEN THE WIZARD WHO COULD -
*STILL TEACH THE ZEN MASTER A THING OR 2 - BANDWAGON *

Mamba24 please slap me on this bad boy as - Old School has gotten so old it's the hip new thing.

Which brings me to my morning point after I responded to LAKER TRUTH on the last thread (I'm with LakerTom in regards to continuing a conversation over multiple threads).

Has Phil Jackson blended the old style of NBA play (big center, power forward who can post up, shoot the jumper and rebound, all-around small forward, two guards that can shoot, run the O, etc.) with the new dynacism of the NBA? The new way being mega atheletic players that do multiple things (Kobe, Lamar, Ron, Pau, I'd put Andrew in there but he hasn't totaly proven to me that he can pass as well as Gasol or Lamar)?

I guess what I'm getting at is this team has the athletes to play the new era Mike D'Antoni style of ball. that being even more run and gun than the Showtime Lakers of yore. They also can transition seamlessly into a slower half-court game and not suffer on either defense or offense. This is extremely unusual in the NBA, you generally get a team that is good at one or the other and so, as a coach, you adjust your rotation and style to exploit those weaknesses.

This Laker team doesn't have that weakness, our biggest weakness seems to be complacency and a tendency to play down to the level of our current opponent rather than just playing our game and executing with precision. To clarify, I'm looking at this from a team-wide perspective, we've all blogged about the individual strengths and weakness' of every position and player on the Lakers.

In my mind, this team can fly with the Hawks and plod with the Spurs, they can bang with the Celtics and mince with the Warriors. Mince is a strong word there, but I think you get my meaning.

What does anyone else think, barring unfocused play (which will surely happen this season) and looking at it in terms of one team vs another, is there a team out there that you think will give the Lakers fits this season?

That last paragraph can go down as another question for the poddie.

To quote the unofficial motto of Lakers Blog as craftedly created by Jon K:

WE PLAY FOR RINGS!

Damn a 73 win season. Damn the records. The only wins that matter are the 16 required in April/May/June that will secure us THE 16TH BANNER.

Nuff said.

Posted by: utzworld - THE BANNER HOLDER | October 14, 2009 at 09:23 AM

Banner Folder-

THE 16TH BANNER? That is so 80's.

Jamie,
"is there a team out there that you think will give the Lakers fits this season?"

Barring major injury, as long as the players are willing to put the success of the team first, no one will beat this roster.

Go Luke, prove us that we are wrong Posted by: Edwin Gueco | October 14, 2009 at 09:41 AM
AND SO THE CALL WENT FORTH…..
And on the far away world Tatawee Young Jedhi Luke put down his light saber and spoke to
Master Yoda. Master intoned young Luke, why are my Jedhi Basketball skills so maligned?
Master Yoda answered, Ah Young padowan pay them no mind. They are familiar with
The power of THE TRIANGLE FORCE. The fools think basketball can only be played one way
I suspect many of them have slipped under the spell of the Dark Lord 131-92. I Do!!
He weaves and enticing spell but when unraveled they are revealed to be much ado about
Nothing. Much like the young Biatch Paula The Truth Pierce. Yes Young Luke before she came under the
Spell of the Dark Lord 132-91 young Paula was a man. Yes say I this and it is true. The Biatch was a man
But she began dabbling on the darkside and became crippled and needed a wheelchair, she did SHE DID.
Then WHEN Young Paul Pierce grew BREAST, Then was born that evil Biatch Paula The Truth Pierce.
Also The Green Bald header Lunatic Darth K.G. I handsome very intelligent lad with a nice long
Mop of hair was he. But alas he too grew fond of the darkside and look at him now. A stark raving baldheaded lunatic who actually believes the Boston Septics have a chance to win another title….
WHAT FURHTER SECRETS WILLL MASTEWR YODA REVEAL TO YOUNG LUKE…….STAY TUNED

LakerTom

Feeling much better and will be going to work today. It ha been quite lovely spending an inordinate amount of time on the ol Blog. I truly do hope Farmar has a break through season, the end result of that most likely being he sign a bigger contract somewhere other than with the Lakers. Unless we move quite afew contracts and Farmar makes the jump from potential PG of the future to THE PG of the future early in the season, I just don't see Mitch or Jerry adding to an already bloated pay roll.

Business after all, is business and as Flight of the Conchords say... http://tinyurl.com/23gjxr

1AndDone:

We will overtake your record for most NBA championships. We will take the record for most successful NBA franchise of all time.
We already claim the record for most Hall of Famers from 1 team (even The Big Ohio says he wants to be inducted as a Laker).
Our coach just overtook Red's record for most NBA championshps as a coach.
Add up the collective NBA titles of your Big 4 and they'll match Kobe's.

But take heart. We will probably never even the score on your 9-2 advantage in the NBA Finals. Why? Because chances are that y'all ain't getting to the Finals 7 more times. Ever.

The sun is setting. The ship is sailing over to the great beyond. By the time the Lakers get to their 20th NBA Championship, you'll still have your cherished memories of the 1960's and Game 6. Taunt us. Mock us. Enjoy your final days in the sunshine. In the words of Sarah McLaughlin, "We Will Remember You."

Banner Folder- THE 16TH BANNER? That is so 80's.
Posted by: 131-92 | October 14, 2009 at 10:06 AM

THAT'S IT 131-92. NOW you getting better. keep throughing that left. Watch out!!! Jeeez Duck would you? You keep that up and you're going to be raving like that Bald Headed lunatic K.G. Now counter The BANNER HOLDER with another of those "THAT'S SO 80's" Hooks. EYE OF THE TIGER 131-92. EYE OF THE TIGER!!!!!

Hey Lakerbloggers!

It's been a minute since I last posted something here. So to make up for lost time, I'd like to Congratulate the Lakers for their championship run....

Anyway, back to the topic at hand. 73 should not be the number that these Lakers should be gunning for. Like many of you who have previously posted, the main goal should never be about records, it's about winning the ultimate goal - which in this case is a championship. Kobe can easily attest to this notion. He won scoring titles, popped off for 81, and has had millions of individual accolades and youtube worthy highlight reels. But he learned that the only thing that can validate his work are championships.

So instead of 73 for those who voted "Yes" on BK's poll, may I propose a few different numbers.

- 18 - as in the number of championships the Lakers will need to overtake the Celtics
- 30-32 - as in the number of minutes Kobe should play this season to keep his legs fresh and his career longer.
- 0 - as in the number of games Bynum will not miss due to injury

These numbers get my vote...

ahlaynu

Taliq-

Can't use * in place of letters for no no words. Sorry.

BK

131 -

Haven't you heard? The 2000-teens are the new 80's but with a Lake Show Dynasty. You'll be wishing it WERE the 80's soon enough, my friend - soon enough. Meanwhile you can reminisce about what happened 2 years ago. We don't care. If, as you say, that's when you taught us to be men, then OUR men have come back with a vengeance while YOUR men became whiny, cry baby, little pups who need wheelchairs, geritol and Depends. Have fun with that.

ex - could NOT agree more. This team (barring injury as noted) is the best squad in the league this year. We've got it all - youth, experience, athleticism, high BB IQ, best player in the game, excellent role guys - the only ones that can beat us is us.

All we need now is to get the games played & in the books! This is the most I've been geeked about a Laker team ever. And we've had some great teams! We are in for one hell of a ride.

GO LAKERS!

The rest of the league should be afraid... very afraid.

Jamie, "is there a team out there that you think will give the Lakers fits this season?"

Barring major injury, as long as the players are willing to put the success of the team first, no one will beat this roster. Posted by: exhelodrvr | October 14, 2009 at 10:31 AM

DOWN GOES 131-92 DOWN GOES 131-92!
THE WINNER AND STILL MIXED MARTIAL BLOG CHAMPION:
EXXXXXXX HELOOOOOOOO DRVRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!

Not only should they not shoot for that number, but they would never get it. Not this team. This team likes the good life too much to not stop to smell the flowers. The two preseason games say it all. An almost 40 point switch in two games tells me this is a talented club with a tendency toward waywardness. 71 wins is much more likely.


Wes

Utz

"To quote the unofficial motto of Lakers Blog as craftedly created by Jon K:

WE PLAY FOR RINGS!"

If I may take some credit, he took that from a reply I sent to the poster "Boston Own the Fakers."

mamba

i'm with you dude!!

73 means single digit losses! man whatever i'm on board just cause its been so long and i miss being on a bandwagon!

Good answer Tim4Show and Vman. I would rather see them 70 wins but win 16 - 0 in the playoffs. Anything short of Championship is a failure. Let us the do talking in winning games than be a chest thumping fanatic.

SHAME ON YOU SHERIFF!!
LEARN FROM THE MISTAKES OF THAT IDIOT MAMBA24!!
HEY, THAT'S ME!!! Yes sad but true.

John Wooden, the Wizzard of Westwood unquestionably the best College coach of all times that produced 10 Championships for UCLA Bruins.

John Wooden's Seven Point Creed, given to him by his father Joshua upon his graduation from grammar school (Courtesy of Wikipedia)

Be true to yourself.
Make each day your masterpiece.
Help others.
Drink deeply from good books, especially the Bible.
Make friendship a fine art.
Build a shelter against a rainy day.
Pray for guidance and give thanks for your blessings every day.

Happy 99th Birthday and we look forward to Age 100 and beyond.

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73 LAKER RECORD BANDWAGON **
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(00) YELLOW FEVER - OWNER - 73 means single digit losses! man whatever i'm on board just cause its been so long and i miss being on a bandwagon!
(01) MAMBA24 - DRIVER - I WANT THAT RECORD AND I WANT IT NOW
THEY CAN TAKE BACK OUR ARRIZA BUT THEY WILL NEVER TAKE AWAY
OUR 73 WIIIIIIIIIIINS!!!!! ARE YOU WITH ME!


Ak/BK,
72 wins can stay in the record books. The team chant is still 1,2,3 rings.

KB Blitz
[And for the blogger who said that FG% really didn't matter when comparing Michael and Kobe don't buy into it. It is important probably one of the biggest things that seperates Kobe from Allen Iverson (Iverson has had very low FG% despite winning 4 scoring titles).]

Lmao @ your comment on Iverson. The fact that you'd put him in the same sentence as the hardest working man in basketball is the very reason why statistics doesn't tell a 10th of the story in basketball.

Try rehashing the last regular minute of game 4 nba finals. The one where Kobe makes up for a few bad plays that leaves us down by 5 with seconds left. He finds Gasol in traffic for a quick 2, has the presence of mind to foul howard, then makes the simple pass out of the back court trap that eventually leads to a fisher 3 that lifted millions of laker fans around the world. Show me the stat that tells that story.

We get it dude, really we do. And right now most of the world is with you and agrees there's no debate as to MJ dominating/owning that conversation though many laker fans on here would pick Magic now and mamba faithfuls have Kobe surpassing either mark before retirement ...

You've made your point about MJ in various threads ... it's reaching the stage where it just seems your spoiling for an argument so you can show love for MJ ... and ain't nothing wrong with that ... but can't you find a bulls centric blog to show that love on? ... otherwise how is this any different from 131-92 deciding that lakersblog.com is the place to celebrate celtric pride ...

Jamie,
"is there a team out there that you think will give the Lakers fits this season?"

The Celtics worry me the most. If healthy, they are one of the few teams that has the frontcourt to match up with us.

C - Advantage goes to Bynum here, but Perkins is the type of physical player who can give Bynum (and Gasol) fits.

PF - A healthy KG has a slight advantage over Gasol.

SF - Artest historically has held his own against Pierce, but the advantage still goes to Pierce, who is still an elite SF.

SG - Kobe, Kobe, Kobe over Ray Allen

PG - Huge, HUGE advantage for Rondo over Fish. (Kobe usually guards Rondo, and Fish guards Ray, but either way, Fish is at a huge disadvantage here)

Backup PF - A motivated Rasheed / Glen Davis combo has the advantage over the Lamar / Powell combo.

Backup SG - Even if Sasha gets his shot back, Marquis Daniels has the advantage over Sasha.

Backup PG - I like Shannon Brown, but Eddie House has the experience. This one's a toss up.

Coaching - Phil obviously has the advantage over Doc Rivers, but the Lakers just lost their defensive coordinator, while the Celtics might have the best defensive coach in the league in Thibodeau.

The likelihood of the aging Celtics staying healthy is fairly low, but if they can stay healthy, they match up well (or have the advantage) at almost every position, including the bench.

Mamba24,

Can you change my comment on the Shannon Brown bandwagon to "Shannon will be next year's version of Ariza". Thanks.

The Bulls were gunning for that record when they saw they had a shot. You don't win 72 games "naturally". You have to drive for it.

If coming down the stretch w/ about 25 games to go and the Lakers have a shot at it they should go for it. The goal is to win every game anyway so why not?

Last I checked the Bulls did win a title that same year also. Nothing like striking fear in your opponents hearts by trampling over them in route to 73 wins!

I would say NO for the 73 wins or so.

If we want to win 70+ games, then it means each and every game, the team has to slug it out and the starters need to play heavy minutes almost every game.

This would put needless wear and tear on starters. Once we come to the point where we know we're going to be the #1 seed (in the West or across the NBA), then we can have games with starters resting a lot and not chasing the 60+ or 70+ numbers.

With the way East has evolved, I dont think there are going to be 2 or 3 60+ teams from the East. Same with west too. So I feel having a 60 win regular season should be close to locking up the #1 seed. Then just let Kobe/Pau/Fish relax and ensure we have heavy firepower for the playoffs.

Tim-4-Show
I got some tix for next month's game at the Coke Center. Nosebleeds, but you know where I'll be when the gates open.

Colorado loves our World Champion Lakers!

utzworld,
"Because chances are that y'all ain't getting to the Finals 7 more times. Ever. "

But ... but ... but ... the 1960s!!! Look at the 1960s!!!

THE LEPRACHAUN WARS BOOK 2 - 131- 92 STRIKES BACK

In the weeks following the surgical strike by The Forces of Light otherwise known as the Freakin LA Lakers Harmony and Balance was restored to the Force. The Dark forces of the Green Zombie BOSTON SEPTICS could be found nowhere in the Empire. A scraggly blonde wig said to belonged to the Biatch Paula The Truth Pierce was found, but not the skank herself. Seven cases of raving Green Giant Balheaded Lunatics were reported. Alas they also were Dead Ends. Some say K.G. The lunatic actually believed the crap spewing from his pie hole and attempted to walk on water. Some say that the Roids the lunatic was taking wore off and he turned into the Raving Lunatic Bald Headed Midget he originally was and Scrambled back to that Rat Hole called Minnesota. He figured if he couldn’t be a Freakin LA Laker he Could at least be coached by the classy young Jedhi Master MITCH OF KUPCHAK who is said, YES CHILDREN THIS IS TRUE, It is said he was actually a coached on the Exalted ZEN MASTER PHIL 10(RINGS) JACKSON himself. May the Force be with him. Be that as it may the Young Forces of the Light The Freakin LA Lakers did not rest on their Laurels after bringing a New Dynasty of Peace and prosperity called DYNASTY 4 to the Land. They enlisted the aid of a talented but somewhat misguided lad by the name of RON OF RON. Under the tutelage of the EXALETED MASTER PHIL 10RINGS JACKSON The Dark Side of the Force was released from his source and he embraced only one thing.THE TEACHINGS OF KOBE WAN KANOBE. ……..TO BE CONTINUED

It has nothing to do with basketball but it's still Hollywood.

Lamar doesn't budge.
http://tinyurl.com/yl5vuhv

THE 16TH BANNER? That is so 80's.

Posted by: 131-92 | October 14, 2009 at 10:06 AM

I thought you were using that until last year because it was still fashionable...
I remember that TV commercial "In 20 years more, you can still use it, it will look as good as new!" you cheap *******

Good Morning Everyone.....

Its a real shame that i get to the Lakers blog and find 1 sole idiot here talking junk about his team who vanished for 17 years......

Hey,hang on a minute....Ok i have a good idea...This morning,im going to get up and go and be an idiot for about an hour or so.....What a great idea...

Your kidding?.....Right?....

Back to being a normal person again...

I hope we just win it again...Thats all that matters.....

BK,

70% say just win the championship, baby. Phil is right. Biggest need is to win home court throughout the playoffs. The rest is just frosting, great to have but not necessary to enjoy a great cake.

Tom

Utz,

>>> But take heart. We will probably never even the score on your 9-2 advantage in the NBA Finals.
>>> Why? Because chances are that y'all ain't getting to the Finals 7 more times. Ever.

LMAO. That was sweet. Reality can be brutal as the Celtic will soon learn. By the end of this decade, they will have fallen lower than the Clippers and Warriors. LOL!

Tom

Mamba,

Even though I voted NO, put me on the 73 Win bandwagon. While it may not be this year, that record will be held by the Lakers before the next decade is over. LOL.

Tom

73 is a great number, but remember when the Mavericks got close to that 70 win number and then eliminated by Golden State in the first round of the playoffs?

Wins are great. We play to win. But we play most to win in the playoffs. This season (like last season) is ALL about winning a Championship. THAT needs to be our focus and THAT needs to be our goal above all other things. The season is about improvement. The post-season is about winning.

What do we play for? RINGS!!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!!!!

Laker Tom,

"We seem to be getting into better blog-sync-think lately. Appreciate the sheriff sticking up for poor Luke. He is what he is and there will be moments when we will be glad he is our 10th or 11th man during the upcoming season. I believe he is a real positive for team chemistry."

I often wonder if people who hate on Luke have actually played team sports on any truly competitive and enduring level. EVERY team has to have at least ONE player who is that "team guy." That guy who plays unselfishly, with heart, and humbly. HE is the player that serves as a model for other players so that team chemistry can develop because superior team play is built upon the compromises in individual game of the players, by put the team first above their own production.

To me this is just common sense because I've played it and lived it since I was a little kid. When people don't recognize this and hate on players that are models for superior team play, it disgusts me a bit. I simply suspect that these people are not athletes and have little to no personal experience in athletics.

What do we play for? RINGS!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!!!!

Tim-4-Show,

"In all seriousness, they should be pushing for 82 wins, since they attempt to win every game, BUT setting an actual "goal" of 82 wins or 73 wins, or 50 wins, etc is child's play, foolish, and short sided.

The only real goal is O'Brien"

Exactly.

What do we play for? RINGS!!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!!!!

It is time for the Lakers to make a statement in the league. With most of the NBA's power in the Eastern Conference, this is the year to do it. Of course it is definitely more important to worry about making playoffs and getting the first seed first. I believe that every team should strive to maintain the best record they possibly can. Heck, would you sit your starting players if you were 81-0 and had one game remaining in the season. Making history builds team morale and team chemistry, which is what the Lakers lacked in their losing seasons .Moreover, it provides MOMENTUM and intimidation proceeding into the playoffs, which teams such as the Colorado Rockies, have proved to be crucial to success. A lack of team chemistry has proven to be detrimental to a season such as in 2004, when they had Payton, Malone, Shaq, Kobe and D-Fish. That Lakers team could have easily had the most talent of any Lakers team in history. However, they lacked team chemistry would inevitably cost them the championship. It is of primary importance to take each game one step at a time and not look ahead of what's in front of us. Making the playoffs comes first, remaining healthy comes second, and making history comes third. Bleed Purple and Gold. THINK BLUE!

Mamba24,

"THE LEPRACHAUN WARS BOOK 2 - 131- 92 STRIKES BACK"

I giggled like a little kid through the entire reading of your post.

When do we get to play Boston?

What do we play for? RINGS!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!!!!

The team that concerns me the most is the Boston Celtics, but I firmly believe that we are the superior team with superior coaching and superior team play.

The Celtics' weaknesses are mental (too many unstable personalities on the team) and physical (a greater succeptibility to injury playing in the Eastern Conference where teams tend to beat up on each other and ignore finesse).

The Celtics, Cavs, Spurs, and Magic are all very good teams... we're just better.

What do we play for? RINGS!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!!!!

Taliq no need to get all emotional just because another MJ thing. There was a blogger who said the biggest difference was FG% and it was negated because of outside shooting. So why on earth does Reggie Miller (my favorite Bruin over Lew and Bill Walton) had 3 seasons of shooting over 50% despite being an outside shooter? If slashing to the basket gave a higher FG% why does Iverson has a FG% of around low 40%? Heck Magic Johnson when he shot more 3 pointers still had a healthy FG% of 48% something Iverson or even Kobe has yet to achieve.


The FG% is one of the biggest things that seperates Kobe and AI. If it didn't Kobe only has the edge in rings/Finals MVP's and other accolades. Here's some advice: not everything that does not put Kobe in a positive light means he sucks! Why you get over that?


"Show me the stat that tells that story."

http://tinyurl.com/ykqzs65

0:31 Pau Gasol makes dunk (Kobe Bryant assists)
0:04 Derek Fisher makes 26-foot three point jumper

Still kind of weirded out by the Lamar-Khloe wedding thing. Thank God Lamar is getting a pre-nup. It'll help him focus.

It's funny. I grew up used to seeing celebrities at line at Astro Burger and wherever. It seems like in a town of celebrities the only true celebrities are Lakers players.

What do we play for? RINGS!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!!!!

131- 92,

I don't go onto opponents blogs to taunt them (because I have class).

Tell me. On Celtics blogs are there lots of Lakers fans taunting Celtics fans?

I'm curious to know.

What do we play for? RINGS!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!!!!

Jon,

You are completely right about every team needing that one or two totally unselfish players to remind everybody how to play the game. With the Lakers, it is Luke and Lamar who fulfill that role. Great point, Jon. And one that is rapidly becoming part of the blog-sync-think. Thank you.

Tom

whats up blog crue?

Bout time this thing gets kicked into gear, but about those 73 wins? I would trade some of those for another championship!

Hard to vote "no", but I did. The truth is that home court advantage throughout the playoffs should be the primary regular season goal. They fell short of that last year, gaining home court for the finals only after Cleveland failed to advance.

This year, the focus should be on winning home court. That should require something in the neighborhood of 65 wins again. If the Lakers secure home court well in advance of the end of the regular season, then I can see them taking their feet off the accelerator and not quite making 73 wins. However, if they get to 65 wins through 72 or 73 games, and have a shot to win 73 if they go 7-2 or 8-1 the rest of the way, then they absolutely should push for that.

You play to win. You don't avoid injury by not playing hard (you can avoid injury by resting guys--but with 10 games left in the regular season you can't be sitting guys down for entire games).

So, while I voted "no" I think they will actually get 73....

Blitz,

The average FG% for guards have dropped significantly since the 80's and early 90's. The game has evolved, players are more athletic, more players can shoot the 3, and defensive schemes are much more complex. In addition, any time you look at FG%, you have to look at points per shot attempt because FG% alone does not account for FTs and 3's.

KB Blitz,

"Here's some advice: not everything that does not put Kobe in a positive light means he sucks! Why you get over that?"

It will be helpful for you to keep in mind that through the lean 2004-2007 years many of us diehards had to argue CONTINUOUSLY with Kobe Haters. After YEARS of dealing with bloggers (and non-bloggers) arguing that Kobe was the most selfish, over-rated, malevolent player in the history of the league, people tend to get a bit kneejerk defensive when people question Kobe's ability.

It's a bad habit, but it's become engrained after years of having to deal with idiots. I do agree that it does inhibit intelligent dialog on the subject, but I hope you understand where it comes from.

What do we play for? RINGS!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!!!!

Don't like the lakers, but Happy Birthday to the Greatest Coach of All-Time, John Wooden, who am I honored to say I have met...
Gee, there are 60 comments on here and only 15 mention the Celtics..........but you have NO fear, right?

Can we stop with the "aging" Celtics thing? It's old!! (pun intended) Didn't the lakers age also, or did they find the fountain of youth? If you look at the starters, there is not a lot of disparity in average age. HEALTH is the key, for both teams, that I will agree on. Bynum's health for you and KG's health ( way more important, btw) for US.

I wouldn't focus on 70 wins. Not to be negative, but you do realize Artest has never played more than 70 games a year in his career?? Don't know why you think that will change. Also, aside from Mr. Khardashian, your bench is suspect, at best. To HOPE that people who have not produced will suddenly produce is comic at best. You have the best player in the game, and here's hoping he does not get hurt playing all those minutes. Here is also looking forward to a 2010 rematch of 2008. Happy Birthday again, Coach, and you know BOTH Kareem and Bill Walton (speaking of UCLA) grew up Celtics fans!!!!!!!!!

Lakers should not even think of 72 wins. Sweet 16 should be the only thing on their minds, then 17 and finally 18, surpassing the celtics. Yes if the Lakers are closed to breaking 72 then great, they should go for it, heck when you look at this team is 33 straight out of the question? From top to bottom this is a loaded team and all the players know something special is in the mist. If they remain focused all should fall into place, it will be tough with boston, cavs, spurs and orlando reloaded. No matter Los Angeles Lakers will be on top celebrating their Sweet 16. LAKERS POR VIDA!

"The Celtics' weaknesses are mental (too many unstable personalities on the team)"

Since Im not as smart as the person who wrote this ... I had to look up the word unstable and there is a picture of Dribble Dribble!

What do all our "unstable personalities" have? RINGS!!!!!

How bout yours?

Home court, means home cooking, which means home court celebrating of the NBA Championship.

Its that simple.

Do I think they win 72 times? Well this Lakers team is of that quality for sure, but to actually go out and do it? I don't think so.

They are enjoying the playing way too much, to make that kind of sacrifice.

Utz

"To quote the unofficial motto of Lakers Blog as craftedly created by Jon K:

WE PLAY FOR RINGS!"

If I may take some credit, he took that from a reply I sent to the poster "Boston Own the Fakers."

Posted by: Charles | October 14, 2009 at 10:54 AM

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I also want to point out that I get credit too, when in my blog debate with Blitz I said we play for championships and that is when Jon K turned it into We play for rings and using that saying since then.

I agree with Jon K. that the Celtics are the team that potentially concerns me the most. They have a core – Allen, Pierce and KG plus Rondo that won it all and that cannot or should not be underestimated. They are adding a guy in Rasheed that won a chip in Detroit so that helps. They also get a decent talent in Marquis Daniels another net plus for the C’s.


I would like to get into the season before I give the C’s full props on being the second best contender – our Lakers being the #1 contender at this point. The Celtics are integrating more new players than the Lakers. Rasheed and Artest are similar in that they can implode and cause difficulty. I don’t think either will do that personally. Artest is in the prime of his career still, Rasheed is on the downside. Wallace’s productivity has dropped but the change in scenery could do him some good – not too mention he is playing with more talent than in Detroit. Ron is playing with better talent too, so I expect both players to be somewhat better than they showed last season, unless Rasheed has declined physically due to age.

I look at the Lakers team this year and I see a team much better than the team that lost to the Celtics. A healthy Thriller over a hobbled non-existent Ariza, huge gain for the Lakers – unless of course he implodes. No Vlad Rad, another huge gain for the Lakers. A healthy Bynum over no Bynum, again big advantage for the Lakers. Shannon Brown is potentially another strength that can contend with Rondo to make his life more difficult. On the Celtics side – KG with a suspect knee and a year older – a concern but not a given minus. Ray another year older, a vet closer to the end of his career – a concern there as well. Rondo? He should be improved – plus for the Celtics. Rasheed? Wild card, could go either way – IMO he would be more likely than Ron to be a detriment. The key subtraction for the C’s is no Posey. He made life tough for Kobe. A combo of Posey and Peirce made it difficult for Kobe and that gave the Celts a big lift. Now Peirce will have to guard Ron and deal with Ron guarding him. Will it be as easy as being guarded by Luke, Vlad and Kobe for Paul? No. Can Pierce guard Kobe now with Ron on the floor? No more Posey to guard Kobe makes it tough. I doubt Daniels can guard Kobe. Also no more savvy defense from PJ Brown, another minus for the Celtics. So all in all I see a stronger better team for the Lakers and a not as talented team for the Celtics. I would love nothing better than for the Lakers to get their next banner by taking out the Celtics. What do we play for? RINGS baby, we play for Rings!!!!!

Peace,
EagleBoy

John K aka The Blog Nazi,

"EVERY team has to have at least ONE player who is that "team guy." That guy who plays unselfishly, with heart, and humbly. HE is the player that serves as a model for other players so that team chemistry can develop because superior team play is built upon the compromises in individual game of the players, by put the team first above their own production."

--I 100% agree with you, but we already have those type of guys on this team, (i.e. Lamar and Gasol). When Lamar agrees to come off the bench or when Pau defers to Bynum, they are "compromising their individual game" for the good of the team. This team has plenty of character/glue guys outside of Luke (i.e. Fish). The difference is, not only are Lamar, Gasol and Fish glue guys, they have earned their salary on the court. Lamar came off the bench during his contract year. As a Laker fan, I get frustrated with players like Luke who only earn their salary in a contract year. The Luke Lovers act as if he is the main glue guy on this team and that team chemistry would fall apart without him, which is hilarious to me.

"When people don't recognize this and hate on players that are models for superior team play, it disgusts me a bit. I simply suspect that these people are not athletes and have little to no personal experience in athletics."

--This is going to sound like Al Bundy, but I am a former CA state champ in 2 sports, and a 4 year letterman in another, so please spare me with your petty insults. Again, I have no problems with Luke getting 10 minutes a game. My Luke rant was in response to bloggers wanting to see Luke get increased minutes this season, and to those bloggers, like yourself, who have an overinflated opinion of Luke's game. Saying Luke is a better NBA player than Magette is no different than Mike T claiming Kwame is better player than Gasol.

Lots of brilliant answers given by bloggers already, personally, I couldn't care less how many games Lakers win in the regular season as long as everyone is healthy and in sync by the time the playoffs come.
In fact, I think this Laker team can win it all even if they don't have homecourt advantage in any 7 game series.

Last season, I think Lakers did need that homecourt advantage. This season, assuming everyone is healthy on both teams, the only West team I see as a bonafide threat is the Spurs. The Spurs have the coaching, the on floor leadership, a solid system and solid players. And they are probably as deep now than they ever were in the last couple of years. The only question is, can they go back to playing Spurs defense, something w/c they lost last year. I can see a series w/the Spurs even lasting to 7 games but I think Lakers can win that one even w/out homecourt advantage. The Spurs don't make many mistakes and they can beat the Lakers if LA makes too many mistakes. But LA is now too mature and seasoned for that to happen. And they won't underestimate the Spurs the same way they underestimated the Rockets last season.
The San Antonio arena has never been a really strong home court and for some reason Lakers, especially Kobe, play very well in that arena.

I see Boston, Cleveland and Orlando knocking each other around in the East playoffs, and the survivor will be bruised by the time they face the Lakers. LA players I'm sure are hoping for the C eltics because they want to pay back 2008. Last time, Boston won because they had the mental edge and the more solid defense. Now, they no longer have the mental edge, their key players are 2 years older, and the Laker defense has improved especially w/Artest. Artest on Pierce - that's one of the reasons we got Thriller for.

If its Cleveland, I doubt that Shaq will still be healthy by the Finals. He'll provide good entertainment for fans throughout the season, but he'll be done by then. That's going to leave a big hole in the middle, and w/Cleveland's mediocre coaching, I don't see how the Cavs can compete w/the Lakers and Coach 10 rings, in a series even if they have the homecourt advantage. And their biggest weapon by far, Lebron, can be counteracted by Artest on the defensive side and Kobe on the offensive side.

Orlando, is being overlooked by everyone as always but I think they're actually the biggest threat from the East. First of all, a healthy Jameer Nelson is going to give DFish a lot of problems. Shannon and Jordan better be able to keep up w/Nelson because I don't think Fish can. Second, I think Howard will come back with a more expanded offensive repertoire, since it was painfully obvious that his lack of offensive moves cost the Magic the playoffs last year. Bynum and Pau in tandem better be able to offset that. Vince Carter might actually become better because I see his personality as similar to Odom. Can't handle the pressure of being first or second option but will thrive as the third option. Now, for the first time in his career, he's in a team where he's not being looked at as the primary offensive option and I think his defense is underrated.

One of the things I'm going to try to look for in the offseason is what kind of defense will Lakers be playing. Last year, they had the help defense w/c suited Ariza (and even Luke when Walton was starting). This year, with Artest, I see them playing more straight up man-to-man, which PJ has always favored. I think last year's help defense improved the Laker players' general court awareness on defense. If they can retain those qualities plus Artest's stronger on ball defense and improvement from Bynum in terms of avoiding unnecessary fouls, the Lakers D will be even better. Lakers are already the best passing and over-all best offensive team in the league, a further improvement in their defense will make them very tough indeed.

this is kinda OT yet related. It's sad to see what Brady Quinn has gone through, the guy never really got a chance with the Browns. I'm not saying he could be great, we don't know that, but compare Quinn's situation vs Mark Sanchez. What if you plug Quinn into Sanchez's situation? As a fan of sport in general, it's just sad to see some organizations just pull the rug on guys. You see Shannon Brown and Ariza bounce around from place to place, then they come here, are told to take open shots and take on more responsibility and they blossom, yet on other teams they were most likely told to give the ball to the star and back off.

There should be some kind of rule for teams like the Browns or the Raiders... if you are bad and keep getting worse, the rest of the league should be able to vote to have all management removed and replaced by outsiders, that would have saved the Detroit Lions or the NY Knicks YEARS of problems... just a rainy day thought...

I like LakerinBC's answer... I also don't care about going for 73 as long as they're playing well and healthy. On the other hand, I'm sure the players themselves will be gunning for as many as they can get.

really liked T_Sensei's post, last thread. And for all those that incessently complain about Luke being overpaid, get this: there are only FOUR Lakers making LESS than Luke - Brown, Farmar, Mbenga and Powell. This isn't opinion, it's fact. There are EIGHT players making MORE than Luke, starting with Sasha.

This is simply how it is. And to be honest, it does not matter a bit. People see it how they want to see it. I can post that he's a utility role player and someone's bound to respond that I'm praising him up, down and sideways.

Setting a goal of 72 or more wins goes against what made the team great last year. As cliche as it may be, Kobe, Fish and Phil preached all season long that they were taking it one game at a time, trying to get progressively better throughout the year. That is the identity of all Phil Jackson coached teams, no matter what happens, finish strong and build momentum for the post season. The championship is the ONLY long term goal they will be focused on because the leadership of this team dictates such. You can recall Kobe saying over and over again last year after any loss or a slump (minor or major, though there wasn't a major one), this team always stays on an even keel; not too high, not too low. Move on to the next practice or game and go from there. Settting a lofty goal like this, which this team is fully capable of at least attempting and getting close if not breaking, changes the mindset that made them successful last year. Any loss can't be put off as a bad game because in the back of you're head, as a player, you're thinking damn, this loss means we can't lose for "x" amount of games or we can't lose to this team we should easily beat, etc. That mentally, in turn, would probably cause the players to press and feel pressure that's really just unnecessary. Keep up the one day, one practice, one game at a time mantra and if we're getting close to the finish line and breaking that record is possible, I'm sure we'll go for it; I'm also sure that if we're close to the finish line and end up losing a game which ruins the chances of breaking the record, Phil will reign it all in, rest his guys and prepare for the real season. It's already been said, give me 16-0 in the postseason anyday over winning 72 or more. Even so, 16-0 isn't the goal. Championship and dynasty are our goals, rings and banners is all I'm worried about and I'm hoping the players feel the same way.

i agree the celtics are the lakers most formidable opponents this year, much more so than the cavs or magic. i do respect them as an adversary HOWEVER I NO LONGER FEAR THEM.

TWO WORDS: RON RON

yes i truly believe ONE MAN WILL MAKE THAT BIG OF A DIFFERENCE.. whatever great advantage the celtics had over us in previous years just went straight out the window. PAULA was by far the biggest laker killer of them all. garnett and allen are all great 1st -3rd quarter players but in the 4th quarter when the stakes were high PAULA was their one and only true weapon.

oh god how i cannot wait to see ARTEST PUNKIN PAULAS FACE WHEN THEY PLAY NEXT. i can already see PAULA CRYING IN AGONY REACHING FOR HIS FAKE HURT LEG JUST CRYING FOR THAT WHEELCHAIR.

there will be no more paula dominating us in the 4th and toying with us while being guarded by a much weaker ariza or even LUKE or even a fatigued kobe. now we'll see his true colors and just how much of a man he'll WOMAN he'll be. i'd like to see him now go beggin his coach to guard kobe after all those years of having the luxury of having LUKE guarding him.


rasheed wallace and the celtics are hogs..

lakers are bears..

This is going to sound like Al Bundy, but I am a former CA state champ in 2 sports, and a 4 year letterman in another (...)

Posted by: LAKER TRUTH | October 14, 2009 at 03:05 PM

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I voted for a NO. 73 wins should not be made a team goal. It's being prepared for the playoff that's the goal. I think this is where Phil has been the master. A lot of teams/coaches play to win every game, Phil Jax's team play for the playoffs. The Season becomes a sort of training for the ultimate prize, a period honing skills, perfecting team play, resolving personal and team issues, team rotation, and harmonizing movement within the triangle.

However, if the opportunity presents itself during the season or at least close to the end of the regular season, say 20 games left, I think it would be just proper that they go for it.

Jamie,
"is there a team out there that you think will give the Lakers fits this season?"

The Celtics worry me the most. If healthy, they are one of the few teams that has the frontcourt to match up with us.

C - Advantage goes to Bynum here, but Perkins is the type of physical player who can give Bynum (and Gasol) fits.

PF - A healthy KG has a slight advantage over Gasol.

SF - Artest historically has held his own against Pierce, but the advantage still goes to Pierce, who is still an elite SF.

SG - Kobe, Kobe, Kobe over Ray Allen

PG - Huge, HUGE advantage for Rondo over Fish. (Kobe usually guards Rondo, and Fish guards Ray, but either way, Fish is at a huge disadvantage here)

Backup PF - A motivated Rasheed / Glen Davis combo has the advantage over the Lamar / Powell combo.

Backup SG - Even if Sasha gets his shot back, Marquis Daniels has the advantage over Sasha.

Backup PG - I like Shannon Brown, but Eddie House has the experience. This one's a toss up.

Coaching - Phil obviously has the advantage over Doc Rivers, but the Lakers just lost their defensive coordinator, while the Celtics might have the best defensive coach in the league in Thibodeau.

The likelihood of the aging Celtics staying healthy is fairly low, but if they can stay healthy, they match up well (or have the advantage) at almost every position, including the bench.


Posted by: LAKER TRUTH | October 14, 2009 at 11:27 AM

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You forgot to say in your opinion because all the matchups you mentioned favor the Lakers except pg imo.

i give 131 a prop. He is so persistent and annoying to his credit.

I would love to hear his rants again when we win banner #18... before Kobe retires.

As for the Celtics, I think the Bulls and Cavs are of much concern to them than our Lakers. They will hard pressed to keep up with the young legged Chicago, and if they get past Chicago, they'll be battling it over with the CAvs and Magic. I don't think they still have the legs to go deep into the playoffs considering their age. I am not even counting injuries.

LAKER TRUTH

The Celtics worry me the most. If healthy, they are one of the few teams that has the frontcourt to match up with us.

C - Advantage goes to Bynum here, but Perkins is the type of physical player who can give Bynum (and Gasol) fits.

PF - A healthy KG has a slight advantage over Gasol.

SF - Artest historically has held his own against Pierce, but the advantage still goes to Pierce, who is still an elite SF.

SG - Kobe, Kobe, Kobe over Ray Allen

PG - Huge, HUGE advantage for Rondo over Fish. (Kobe usually guards Rondo, and Fish guards Ray, but either way, Fish is at a huge disadvantage here)

Backup PF - A motivated Rasheed / Glen Davis combo has the advantage over the Lamar / Powell combo.

Backup SG - Even if Sasha gets his shot back, Marquis Daniels has the advantage over Sasha.

Backup PG - I like Shannon Brown, but Eddie House has the experience. This one's a toss up.

Coaching - Phil obviously has the advantage over Doc Rivers, but the Lakers just lost their defensive coordinator, while the Celtics might have the best defensive coach in the league in Thibodeau.

The likelihood of the aging Celtics staying healthy is fairly low, but if they can stay healthy, they match up well (or have the advantage) at almost every position, including the bench.


I have to agree with your assessment that the Celtics would give the Lakers a solid run for their money. Pierce, when healthy and motivated is good enough to get his points, involve his team mates and sway the crowd and refs through dramatics.

The more I read about these new refs I also worry about how it will affect guys like Kobe and Artest who get on the refs a lot. This is a scenario that may have an adverse effect on a lot of teams, but Ron and Rasheed stand to possibly lose a lot of money and playing time if they can't let it go during the flow of the game. Hopefully the staff will inform both these guys (Ron and Kobe, I hope 'Sheed gets tossed every third game or so, i wonder if he could set a record for most games not played because of too many technicals, if he doesn't hold that noble distinction already).

Too be fair to Gregg Popovich and his ageless wonders, I have yet to see them with their new additions and they have the smarts, toughness and savvy to give LA a run for their money. Last year I would have said Cleveland too, but something tells me that team will be slightly more earth bound than last season and not just because of Shaq. Just a feeling.

As far as Luke "Who says White Men can't Jump" Walton goes, let's agree to disagree. Seems like were on the same page just with just about everything else.

GO LAKERS!!!!!

Happy Birthday again, Coach, and you know BOTH Kareem and Bill Walton (speaking of UCLA) grew up Celtics fans!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: stillhavethoseballoons? | October 14, 2009 at 02:24 PM

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I believe KAJ from NY was a Knicks fan.

Salute to all my fellow Laker fans!!! The Ring is the thing!!! At the end of the day, that's all that matters. If we get the record as a part of our repeat, good. But if we repeat without getting the record, great. Titles are all that matters!!! Just ask the 18-1 New England Patriots. Go Lakers!!!

Nemaia Faletogo

yellofever,

I’m with you all the way on Ron making the difference between fearing the Celtics and just respecting them. He’s like a special trump card the Lakers were able to get to defend Paul Pierce, LeBron James, and Carmelo Antony. He’s our version of the Lakers signing Mychal Thompson to play Kevin McHale. Or Michael Cooper to play Larry Bird. Conversely, where have all the Kobe stoppers gone? More like on this team, Kobe IS unstoppable. It’s going to be fun seeing multiple Kobe’s exploding on the court. The scorer, defender, distributor, coach, decoy. Best of all, Kobe is dead set on posting up, which will mean a higher shooting percentage for sure. It’s like he is saying to Drew and Pau that he can shoot a higher percentage too if he is THAT close to the basket. LOL. That should even make Blitz happy.

Tom

Jamie Sweet ( & LakerTruth),

you wrote: C - Advantage goes to Bynum here, but Perkins is the type of physical player who can give Bynum (and Gasol) fits.

PF - A healthy KG has a slight advantage over Gasol.

SF - Artest historically has held his own against Pierce, but the advantage still goes to Pierce, who is still an elite SF.

SG - Kobe, Kobe, Kobe over Ray Allen

PG - Huge, HUGE advantage for Rondo over Fish. (Kobe usually guards Rondo, and Fish guards Ray, but either way, Fish is at a huge disadvantage here)

Backup PF - A motivated Rasheed / Glen Davis combo has the advantage over the Lamar / Powell combo.

my response: I think you're wrong on the PF, SF & Backup PF slots.

re: PF. KG is 35 & coming off of knee surgery. Pau's offensive last year is
better than KG's was the year Boston won the championship. I think Pau has
the edge in offense and his defense is underrated. He didn't do badly against
KG the year before and did well against Howard.

re: SF. Artest is a former DPOY. Numbers support your stance. I look
forward to watching this contest.

re: backup PF. Rasheed is old. I'm not sure your rotation will be the one
that is employed. i.e. In a big game, I don't expect to see Powell. I do
expect to see Pau/Lamar at PF. I do expect to see KG/Rasheed/Davis
at PF. I think that Pau/Lamar > KG/Rasheed/Davis.

I have a healthy respect for Celtics. However...

I must say to the people making matchup analyses, I disagree with them. However, I do understand that its a necessary evil on the Internet. I'm only noting that we don't know who is going to be used by Phil to answer a particular defensive dilemma. I can only say now that we don't have a big defensive hole at the 3 anymore, which was a problem last year. Trevor was an great defender against B level talent, but against the likes of Pierce, Ron Artest, Lebron, and Carmelo, we were at a deficit.

Regarding the 'weak' point guard position, we have 3 defenders to choose from, with Kobe being the wild card if our point guard is up to guard the opposing team's shooting guard. So I don't think once we get to the playoffs this will be a problem. We have a solid answer at every position.

What does concern me more than any particular team is the transition speed at our swing positions. Ron and Kobe aren't in sync yet, and I don't know how they will work-yet. I'm sure it will be fine, but I hope it will be as fruitful as the Trevor/Kobe combo.

65-68 wins and the RING is about right. Doubt if this team has the focus to push for 73.

Hypothetical losses
One to the Bos, Orl and Cleve (They don't call em the Big Three for nothing)
One to SA and Den (Spurs are hungry and Nuggets want revenge)
Two to Portland (hey until they prove otherwise)
One to Charlotte (they own Lakers)

That's a record of 12-8. Thus, Lakers would need to go 61-1 against the rest of the league. Ain't going to happen. Not with every road game sold out and home team playing their best of the season...especially on East Coast trip

I prefer they stay focused on the Big Trophy and not get sidetracked!

Laker Truth,
"C - Advantage goes to Bynum here, but Perkins is the type of physical player who can give Bynum (and Gasol) fits."

A healthy Bynum has a SIGNIFICANT advantage over Perkins.

"PF - A healthy KG has a slight advantage over Gasol."

This isn't two years ago. Gasol now has the edge.

"SF - Artest historically has held his own against Pierce, but the advantage still goes to Pierce, who is still an elite SF."

51-49 in Pierce's favor at this point. But Pierce is going to have to leave Artest to help on Kobe, Gasol, and Bynum.

"SG - Kobe over Ray Allen"

Significant advantage for Kobe.

"PG - Huge, HUGE advantage for Rondo over Fish. (Kobe usually guards Rondo, and Fish guards Ray, but either way, Fish is at a huge disadvantage here)"

Significant advantage for Rondo over Fish; hard to say at this point about how Farmar and Brown will do. But as noted above - Rondo would need to leave Fisher to help out on defense. I like the Lakers chances with Fisher getting uncontested threes.

"Backup PF - A motivated Rasheed / Glen Davis combo has the advantage over the Lamar / Powell combo. "

This isn't a 2 on 2 - the Lakers will get more out of Odom than the Celtics will get out of Rasheed and Davis.

KB Blitz,
[The FG% is one of the biggest things that seperates Kobe and AI. If it didn't Kobe only has the edge in rings/Finals MVP's and other accolades. Here's some advice: not everything that does not put Kobe in a positive light means he sucks! Why you get over that?]

Again Iverson went to war with the world because he didnt want to practice. A lot about the player Kobe Bryant is on the court is built on his dedication to his craft. The fact that you see FG% as the biggest different in their game as opposed to Kobe's work ethic shows you'll never understand why we love the dude.

As for "everything that does not put kobe in a positive light doesn't mean he sucks" comment. Dude please ... isn't this the thousandth time you'll scream that out loud ... it's almost as cliche as kobe is selfish ... get some new material or perharps just try reading/understanding my post

I didn't say you said kobe sucks ... I said go find a bulls centric blog to express your love for MJ ... if you want to scream out loud that Magic's FG% is better than Kobe's feel free to do it on here.

MJ rocked, I'm a big fan of his. Magic rocks but I wasn't a laker fan back then but thanks to folks on here I pay homage now. I'll testify to Lebron's greatness based on how he continues to destroy the opposition, but you won't catch me expressing love for his game cuz freakish size/speed on the ball court doesn't resonate with the MJ addict in me. Kobe's game on the other hand has me feening for basketball 24/7 around the clock, poetry in motion is what I'll tell a stranger to ball, and his work ethic resonates with how my mama raised her kids. And oh if he played in the same era as MJ, I think he'd either have beaten MJ or died trying and frankly speaking I can't say the same about any other nba star playing now (and no FG% in the world can express that).

Anyway I digress ... This ain't ya first time spitting MJ's greatness on here ... it won't be your last ... just saying maybe it's about time u check yourself before you wreck yourself ... everytime someone screams kobe's the greatest and you feel the need to remind them MJ is better ... stop wait and think on it for a minute ... this is the one place you're guranteed to keep hearing kobe rocks, kobe reigns, kobe is king, etc etc etc ... and in my humble opinion you've made your case for MJ on here already and we respectfully diasgree ... ain't it time you dead the topic till there's an MJ thread or go find you a bulls blog to wax your lyrics on ... I'd be saying the same to a Lebron feen camping out on a lakers blog ... or a celtics feen that remains married to a 131-92 score and keeps trying to celebrate that union in the 1 place that's eager to prove they're able and willing to kill his bride

Again my message reads thus ... I ain't saying u think kobe sucks ... I'm saying I'm tired of hearing your drop MJs name every other argument ... there's an app for that but lakersblog.latimes.com ain't it

BK,
[Can't use * in place of letters for no no words. Sorry.]

Not sure what post you're referring to but you can delete the word entirely and post the rest of it or I guess just leave the entire post off if you're not allowed to do that.

LAKER TRUTH,

It does sound like Al Bundy.

What do we play for? RINGS!!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!!!

It's destined to happen. The thriller aka RonRon got the number 37 anyway. It's just the reverse. It will happen. Hahahaha! Go lakers!

About....the lyrics, how about to sung in the style of "Mother", by the Police....
( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TpPPRF-A9DU&feature=related )

"HATERS ARE WATCHING TO

Listen to the chaplain utzworld, please it’s important news
Laker Bloggers, Laker Nation this is something we need to do.
When we zip out those posts that we think are just for me and you
Remember, HATERS ARE WATCHING TO
Say it again ya’ll, HATERS ARE WATCHING TO!!!
1 more time now, HATERS ARE WATCHING TO!
Good god yall, HATERS ARE WATCHING TOO

When you get riled at Luke cause he’s not just like his dad
Just remember before you post something infantile and mad
When you long for the days of Kwame’s Magnificent Thighs too
Remember: HATERS ARE WATCHING TO!!
Say it again ya’ll, HATERS ARE WATCHING TO!!!
1 more time now, HATERS ARE WATCHING TO!
Good god yall, HATERS ARE WATCHING TOO

When you become mad at 10Rings when he does not call Time-Out
When you feel like one more second and his name you gonna shout
When you type a nasty post, before you send it through
Remember: HATERS ARE WATCHING TO!!
Say it again ya’ll, HATERS ARE WATCHING TO!!!
1 more time now, HATERS ARE WATCHING TO!
Good god yall, HATERS ARE WATCHING TOO

EVERYTBODY!!!
Remember: HATERS ARE WATCHING TO!!
Take it to the Bridge ya’ll HATERS ARE WATCHING TO!!!
1 more time now, HATERS ARE WATCHING TO!
Good god yall, HATERS ARE WATCHING TOO


it's 330 am, I think I gotta get some sleep....
Posted by: mamba24 | October 14, 2009 at 09:43 AM"

You can count on at least some losses due to oxygen deprivation in Utah and Denver, and their usual 5 or so giveaways to chump teams..... So there's like 8 losses right there.......I'm thinking more like 67 wins.....

Segeboy, I used to love Conway and Steckler on 97.1 about 7-10 years ago around 7-10 pm.....one would say the word "arse" or someword similar, you know the word, it's in the dictionary, then the other would say the word "hole"...I guess according too FCC regulation you can not say the word 'arse-hole", but if split up, it flies, goes to show how stupid rules can be and how easy it is to circumvent them........Whatevever happened to Doug Steckler?......

utzworld is obsessed with the Celtics - wonder why that is

To Jon K - YES - there are many, many, many LAKERS fans on Boston.com - and they are every bit as annoying as we are. The reason I come here at all is to give a little perspective and a little objectivity. I also want to see if Lakers FANS (which you guys are, and good for you, you have a great team) say the same things as Lakers TROLLS. I'm happy to report, you guys are no where near as obnoxious as those people. Although I think "70 wins, Phil is the greatest of all-time and the Celtics are old" are all starting to grate on my nerves a little bit. There is as much "love" for the lakers on Boston.com as there is "love" for the Celtics on here. I enjoy reading both sides, but, even though I live out here now, I can never be turned. My girls are 8 and 6 and their mantra is, "I love Purple and I love Gold, I just don't like them together." Daddy's girls all the way!!!!! Hope that clears up any misconceptions you may or may not have. Have a great day!!

Laker in BC~ Agree with you about Whorelando. Most especially because Dwight will add a more polished and effective offensive repetoire to his amazing defensive abilities. I believe they will be the team to come out of the East even though a Celtic showdown throwdown would be sweet.

Also, could give a rats about 73 wins. The key is staying healthy and peaking at the right time.

ps Where are you in BC? Went to HS in Victoria...

Let the LAKERS LUAU begin!!


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