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Lakers 99, Clippers 92: Enormous jewelry with a side of victory

All in all, a strong opening to the '09-'10 season. Breakdown below. 

This was a TNT game delayed at the start with a ring ceremony before the tip. Needless to say, it took a while. That means less analysis, more video. But here are a few thoughts:

    -We touched on it in the talkie up top, but despite the poor shooting both from the field and the free throw line, Ron Artest was able to display the wide array of talents that made such an appealing target for Lakers and Phil Jackson. No disrespect to Trevor Ariza, but Artest can do more things. He can post up, is a better passer, and is more versatile on the defensive end because his strength allows him to guard a wider variety of players effectively. Ariza is better in the open floor, but Artest had a couple nice plays beating the Clips down the lane, too. Dude's not exactly a plow horse out there. Where Ariza was stealthy, Artest is a beast. (That's what Mike Dunleavy called him after the game.) Time will tell if his greater talent is a better fit, but I saw nothing tonight to make me question the path the Lakers have taken.

    -Andrew Bynum scored 26 points, and much of it came from hustle, knowing that if he got down the floor there's a good chance he'd be rewarded with a lob and an easy bucket. One thing the Lakers did through the preseason and again tonight was to have Bynum release quickly when contesting a shot on the perimeter. The Lakers have so many good rebounders that his presence isn't always required under the bucket in those situations. Meanwhile, if he's the first Laker down the floor, it creates an instant mismatch and an appealing target for a teammate. 13 boards is very encouraging as well.

    -That he hits his free throws is also a major boon to the squad.

    -16/13/5 for Lamar Odom, plus two steals and a pair of blocks. PJ spoke highly of the way Odom guided the second unit in the second half, adding some stability after the reserves (a truly reserve group of DJ Mbenga, Luke Walton, Shannon Brown, Jordan Farmar, and Josh Powell) struggled in the second quarter. After the game, LO was positively ebullient, riffing with the media on any number of subjects (from "How about them Yankees?" to putting down the candy... apparently the Captain Cavity caught up to the Candy Man). This is a guy with enormous pride in having won a ring.

    -Speaking of the rings, they were freakin' huge. I saw Sasha's up close. Thing looked like a diamond encrusted half dollar. Not exactly something you throw on for a casual evening at the Cheesecake Factory.

Plenty more to come tomorrow and throughout the week. Lakers have the day off today, then return to practice Thursday. 

VIDEO:

Jackson, on the ring ceremony, Artest's debut: "Ron did really well. I thought he shut down defensively really well. Some offensive things he had opportunities on he didn't complete, but I thought he looked like he was in the mix and knew what was going on most of the time, and felt comfortable with what we were trying to do." And Bynum... even praising the defense:

PJ on Odom, and how Artest's post game changes LA's approach offensively:

Jackson on Bynum playing large minutes in the absence of Pau Gasol, and the struggles of the bench in the second quarter:

Odom, on the mindset of the team. It an answer to an interesting question, wondering about that line between assuming they're going to win, and knowing they're going to win. Assuming isn't good. Knowing? That's good stuff:

BK

More vid and such...

VIDEO Andrew Bynum expresses his excitement over receiving his championship ring. It just so happened to come on his 22nd birthday (one he labeled his most special so far) and times like these reminded you that Drew is, in fact, barely into adulthood. Of all the Lakers I witnessed after the game, Bynum was by the far the most geeked to slip the ring on his finger.

Drew's never struck me as much of a "bling" guy, so I wondered how often he planned to wear that rather large championship token. He figured it would be an "out to dinner" kind of accessory. So if you're ever out grabbing a bite and suddenly blinded while ordering a Veal Piccata, it's probably Drew over at the next table.  Ask him to shift his hand a little in the other direction.  

Here, Andrew evaluates the team's performance against the Clips, blaming the third quarter issues on too much one-on-one play, himself included. As he notes, when the Lakers run their offense, they become harder to defend and, in turn, become a better defensive team. He also lays out a goal for the season: 73 wins. Bold, but hey, might as well shoot big, right?

In a stream of consciousness style that I'm guessing (and by "guessing," I mean, "praying to the highest of higher powers") will be typical for the season, Ron Artest offers thoughts on the Lakers' performance (could be better, but happy with the effort and "W") and his hair (courtesy the talented Boogie from Orlando). Plus, plans are announced for future do's. Styles be switched up, and fan suggestions will be considered. "They wanted me to color it gold, but today wasn't the day. Maybe, like, next game."

The best part was when Artest noticed a female reporter jammed amongst the flock reporters and crouched down while feebly sticking her mike out at around ankle level.  Quite amused, Ron Ron cooed "hey, down there," then ordered everyone to clear a path for his new friend. "Give her some room.  I'll wait for you." Once she was properly situated and chivalry was restored, Artest continued to hold court.

The man's not even in mid-season form yet.

AK

 
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hey! 81 to go!

AK/BK,

i think you're gonna use the I LOVE LA track as opener in your next podkast just because they played it in Staples during the unveiling of the championship banner...HAHAHAHA

BRETT

Good morning Lakers faithful,

The quest to establish a new Dynasty is off to a great start. Here's my Top 5 List from opening night.

5. A Lakers victory.

4. Jeanie Buss looking very hot!

3. Thriller's awesome haircut and the story behind it.

2. The return of the Live Chat family in solid numbers. Keifo, Roosevelt, SoCalife, Justanothermambafan , Anna, Faith, El Guapo, Cactus Berry, jamesSD, LakerGurl, Korey, segeboy, MrNano, ChickNstu, hen, Dunk on, Shawn, Lake Show, Pig, Caliphilosopher, Kobefan in Cupertino, Lost Jello, Vonislav, (and anyone I may have left out).

1. The incredible ring ceremony from start to finish. It brought a lump in my throat and a tear to my eye. So much greatness in the Championship legacy of the Purple & Gold all together one one floor in a moment each and every one of them will treasure for the rest of their lives.

Every fan in every sport has his or her team. We have the Lakers. It doesn't get any better.

I really like Artest.


Did anyone see how he made the reporters move aside so the petite lady reporter could get her camera/mic in the mix? That was super cool of him to do.


I want to say he's my favorite Laker, but then I remember Kobe, Fish, Gasol, Bynum...


And the Celtics looked VERY good last night. I mean like, good enough to beat LA. If they keep shooting the ball like that, LA needs to take notice. The world needs to be alerted.


Lakers ring is much more beautiful than the greenie's, and this is the best pic I've seen of the Celtics ring.


Celtic ring 2008: http://tinyurl.com/yfuw46c

Lakers ring 2009: http://tinyurl.com/yg4zufg


Drive for five: Kobe, Fish, Shaq and Duncan. If Kobe gets his 5th before the others, does he not become the player of his generation, passing up both Shaq and Duncan? I think he does. In fact, the same may be said for Shaq and Duncan. Whichever player gets to 5 first may get my vote for most dominant/productive player of this era.


BTW, great bigfoot documentary/character study about two friends combating poverty and hopelessness by searching for bigfoot:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGZMHmB3z84


Wes


Great line from FB&G (in re to the announcers talking about the workout facility Kaman built this offseason):

"Someone tell Kaman that building a workout facility doesn’t fix the ugly."

Why no picture of the ring?

***** ALL ABOARD *********************************
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HAPPY BIRTHDAY ANDREW(THE BEAST) BYNUM ON YOUR 22ND - BANDWAGON
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(01) LAKER TOM - OWNER
(02) MAMBA24 - DRIVER - Happy birthday young-un you did good.

Celtic ring 2008: http://tinyurl.com/yfuw46c

Lakers ring 2009: http://tinyurl.com/yg4zufg
Posted by: wesjoenixon | October 28, 2009 at 05:58 AM

Celtic ring 2008: http://tinyurl.com/yfuw46c - OH THE HUMANITY!!!!! RUN FOR YOUR LIVES!!!! AHHHHHH!!

Lakers ring 2009: http://tinyurl.com/yg4zufg - OH THE BEAUTY, I'LL TAKE A DOZEN!!
WESJOE You have done a service to humanity by showing us that it is no joke, The septics are some very tasteless individuals. No wonder THE TRUTH never flashes his bling.

Someone tell Kaman that building a workout facility doesn’t fix the ugly." Posted by: exhelodrvr | October 28, 2009 at 06:57 AM
Those celtic rings also need some fixing EX. OH THE HORROR!!!


Wes
[Drive for five: Kobe, Fish, Shaq and Duncan. If Kobe gets his 5th before the others, does he not become the player of his generation, passing up both Shaq and Duncan? I think he does. In fact, the same may be said for Shaq and Duncan. Whichever player gets to 5 first may get my vote for most dominant/productive player of this era.]

You're hereby declared guilty of homerism. That's not a fair baromerter, you know Kobe's getting to 5 first

Now that I live in the Bay Area, I'm glad that the Lakers get a lot of national broadcast love; my SlingBox is a little pixely and slow, and TNT makes it a lot easier to watch. This could have been a classic trap game, with the Lakers too focused on getting rings and unfurling a banner, but like this team has done over the last two seasons, they almost always find a way to bear down and apply pressure to the weaker opponent. I'm not sure about Reggie Miller's 20-1 prediction, but looking at the team and assuming everyone stays healthy, they could definitely be close.

I'm looking forward to a long, fun season and another ring at the end of it all. Go Lakers!

Why no picture of the ring? Posted by: swf | October 28, 2009 at 07:26 AM

They have to save space for a picture of me in my Purple & Gold Thong!!! Lol!!!

AK/BK,

What's the deal with Sasha and Odom? There was a sequence in 1st quarter(?) when Gordon blew by Sasha. Gordon was fouled and got a continuation. Sasha overreacted and Lamar yanked his arm from behind.

WESJOE, HOW in the &&%%$#$^&*()) can Kobe get to 5 before Fish? What the **^%$$$ is wrong with you? I told you that looking at that Celtic Ring monstrosity would destroy brain cells. Now the only cure is to gaze upon the Lakers Ring for 5 minutes and your sanity will be restored. Gazing at The Laker Ring is also good for Iron Poor Blood, Back aches, E.D.........

Hobbi & Kobe-

I know how much KB loves to tell anybody who will listent that Boston CANT win in Cleveland. Now that that has been put to bed we can enjoy the season. Please dont quit your day jobs. Because picking winners is not your strong suit. I will give you credit for making your pick for all the world to see regardless of the fact you had no idea what you were talking about.

Also please dont sweat the fact we may not extend Rondo. Its Danny Ainge who is in charge, not Mitch. I dont know if you realize that Rondo will be a "restricted" free agent. No need to give in to his demands (Luke & Sasha) when we can always match any offer and most teams dont like to give offers to restricted free agents cuz they know their offer will probably be matched and they tie up their money waiting to see if it is matched while other unrestricted free agents sign elsewhere. Hope that helps and puts the Rondo issue to bed as well.

THE DEMISE OF THE BOSTON CELTICS HAS BEEN GREATLY EXAGGERATED!

Watching the team get their rings and the raising of the banner had me all smiles and tears.


Great times again on the blog with everyone during the game... I missed that over the summer.

Can't wait for FRIDAY...

GO LAKE SHOW!!

LIGHTS OUT!!!

Wes - thanks for the props. I think anyone who saw the game noticed two things:
1. The Celtics are a real threat to the Champs.
2. Anyone who uses the term "old and slow" with regard to the Celtics should remember how the Artist Formerly Known As Shaq played last night.
Still don't get how "we" got older and slower, but Cleveland didn't!!!

Excellent win. The primary reason Ron is such a great pickup for us? Paul Pierce and Lebron James. At this point, our toughest opponent is going to be Orlando, and we can live with that.

Good morning Mamba24 & the fabulous Laker morning CRUE!!!j

I went to bed smiling - I woke up smiling - I'm still smiling and I'm going to be smiling ALL FREAKING DAY LONG!!

HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! That was AWESOME!!!!

Thanks to all the faithful who were on the live chat last night - you guys make my enjoyment of the Laker games, well - that much more enjoyable!

There's nothing like a Laker ring, banner and win to start the season off on the right foot.

Seriously - Friday can't come soon enough!

GO LAKERS!!!

Nothing but another title will suffice.

I'm not sure about Reggie Miller's 20-1 prediction, but looking at the team and assuming everyone stays healthy, they could definitely be close.Posted by: Tully Moxness | October 28, 2009 at 08:03 AM

I'd go with Reggie Millers analysis over anybody else on TV.
The guy is seldom wrong in his critiques.

Good morning everyone!

Hi Rick Friedman! Thanks for the love. :-)

I was pretty pleased with how we played last night, although that second quarter was not good at all. I think we had a scoring drought for about 6 minutes or so; not going to work against the better teams.

However, a win is better than a loss at this point, so I'll take it. I'll try to get a better feed next time so I can actually watch the game like everyone in SoCal.

Hope everyone has a good day!

mamba24,
"HOW in the &&%%$#$^&*()) can Kobe get to 5 before Fish?"

Because when two players on the same team have won the same number of titles, the first tiebreaker is alphabetical order of last names.

I went to bed smiling - I woke up smiling - I'm still smiling and I'm going to be smiling ALL FREAKING DAY LONG!!
Posted by: justanothermambafan | October 28, 2009 at 08:39 AM

Show off!! I went to bed smiling too until I rolled over and saw my zombie/vamp girlfriend next to me.

Mamba24

OPENING NIGHT OBSERVATIONS...

CELTS @ CAVS
1. How about that section by section dismantling of the Cavs by the Celtics? Spotted them a 14 point lead, and then proceeded to expose the weaknesses that will certainly be the doom of title hopes in Cleveland. Shaq and Z on the court together looked impressive, but in reality only aided the pick-n-roll game of Celtics (with no offensive advantage gained with Shaq in the post). Several times the Celtics forced BOTH Shaq and Z to be primary defenders in pick-n-roll action and kick-outs... wow


2. KG moved more like Bynum than old KG. KG lacked lift and explosiveness just as we can obviously see Andrew's restricted, post-injury hops. I believe though, there is a significant difference. Bynum's limitations are mental and self-imposed due to his own caution. KG's limitations are physical and indications that his days of defensive leaping are limited.


LAKERS...
3. The game almost felt anticlimatic. I don't know if it was post-ring ceremony lag or just the frequent-flyer boredom of facing the Clippers, but you could definitely feel the air was out of the balloon early and often. I remember back in Showtime era of the 80's, there were anywhere between a dozen to twenty games a year that felt like last night's game. Almost a preseason game feel. Expectations of dominance has its drawbacks.


4. Fish's shot was off. Artest's shot was off. Bench was off. No Gasol. Bottom line ~ Lakers get the W with a whole lot of room for improvement!


LABEL OF THE DAY FROM TNT . . . Following DJ Mbenga's third jump shot within a 2 minute sequence of play, I believe it was Reggie Miller chirping out, "It's Akeem Olajuan Mbenga!" Thank-you Reggie ~ you can bet when Kobe hears that, it will fire him up for next game; Kobe wants to be compared to the dream! He will twist that into motivational material to dream-shake Mav's D a few times on Friday.


Mike

In the video did you notice Ron Ron's cool vans checkerboard slip ons? Those were almost as cool as his hair cut. I look forward to this seasons' new addition his game had a postive influence on Lamar and Bynum's game last night. Can't wait til Pau gets back then this team will be real scary!

Because when two players on the same team have won the same number of titles, the first tiebreaker is alphabetical order of last names. Posted by: exhelodrvr | October 28, 2009 at 08:50 AM
DAGGGGGGGGG! FOLKS THE MAN IS GOOD!!!!!!

I'm not sure about Reggie Miller's 20-1 prediction, but looking at the team and assuming everyone stays healthy, they could definitely be close.Posted by: Tully Moxness | October 28, 2009 at 08:03 AM

I'd go with Reggie Millers analysis over anybody else on TV.
The guy is seldom wrong in his critiques.


Posted by: MAMBA24 | October 28, 2009 at 08:49 AM

Mamba-

I too went to bed with a smile. Glad you got a chance to see your last banner go up. Hope you took a picture. I must give you props on your great ability to judge talent. I also think Reggie is usually right. Who did he pick to win it all?

Wasnt it great to see that bald headed lunatic play like a bald headed lunatic?

I DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE ELSE HAS LOOKED AT THE SCHEDULE OR NOT BUT ASIDE FROM CLEVELAND AT GAME 29, IT APPEARS THAT IT IS SET UP FOR US TO WIN 34 GAMES IN A ROW!!!
MAMAB24

Wes,

You have said between Duncan and Shaq, whoever gets the 5th ring earliest will be considered as the most dominant man of this era.

However, I would say that 5th ring or not, Duncan has been more dominant and has had bigger influence in this era.

Arguably, TD is the best PF to have ever played this game. However, we all know that Shaq is NOT the best center of all time...

Wasnt it great to see that bald headed lunatic play like a bald headed lunatic? Posted by: 131-92 | October 28, 2009 at 09:06 AM

AT LEAST YOU GOT IT HALF RIGHT

exhelodrvr,

"Because when two players on the same team have won the same number of titles, the first tiebreaker is alphabetical order of last names."

No, it would be Fish who would be getting the ring before Kobe. Did you not the presentation yesterday - Kobe was the LAST player to get the ring.

It is much similar to the valedictorian giving the final speech - the finale is saved for the captain/best player :)

I for one didn't think the C's looked all that spectacular last night - nor did the Lakers for that matter. Both teams won, but it is a long season and there is plenty of room for improvement. If health is not an issue, I really do expect a rematch with the Lakers coming out on top this time.

I do think the C's showed once again why the Cavs will struggle to make it to the Finals. They really are not that good outside of LBJ. They cannot defend the pick-n-roll their offense gets bogged down too easily, Shaq is still old and slow. Orlando I think is interesting but I think that the matchups still favor the C's in the East.

In the West, the only real threat I see is Duncan and Co. They have championship capable players and coaching but I don't think they can beat the Lakers if both squads are healthy. While Thriller's game was less than stellar, I like what he brings to the table overall and I am confident his signing will prove to be a great move to bring home #16!

My last thought is I do like the Lakers ring better than the C's. It must be tough for Boston even our rings are better than theirs!

Peace,
EagleBoy

where do i go on your website to find the NBA box scores and standings?

This has been the greatest transformation of a MAN in the history of the world OR Ron Artest has been wrongfully judged by the media and fans everywhere, myself included. I've seen nothing but goodness in Ron's heart, the little things that he does aren't that little. They are kind gestures that show the real Ron Artest, like giving the kid his watch so he may continue his education and making room for that reporter to get into the mix..lol. Yes he made some bad decisions, but i woulda done the same if somebody tossed a beer at me.

Let's get this man a RING!!!!

GO LAKERS!!

It is much similar to the valedictorian giving the final speech - the finale is saved for the captain/best player :) Posted by: Kobefan in Cupertino | October 28, 2009 at 09:13 AM
DAGGGG! If I did not know better I'd think this guy Kobefan is the reincrnation of Ex. Boy is his jab quick. If not for his superb condition Ex. might have went down with that blow.
Kobefan you got potential but you got to knock out the champ tto be the champ.

Great start to the season...

Arguably, TD is the best PF to have ever played this game. However, we all know that Shaq is NOT the best center of all time... Posted by: Kobefan in Cupertino | October 28, 2009 at 09:09 AM
Best center of all-time. He's only the 3rd best Laker center of all time!!

Mamba24
[I'd go with Reggie Millers analysis over anybody else on TV.
The guy is seldom wrong in his critiques.]

Umm you do realize Miller's the same dude that is picking Boston to beat us in the finals. His errors aren't seldom enough, so here's to the team going 21-0 during that stretch just to prove Miller wrong.

I agree with the blogger that stated neither the Green Weenies nor the Lakers looked all that dominant, but I would not read too much into the 1st game of the season as a measuring stick cuz if one does that, then one should put the Clippers in the mix for the way they played! It's too early to presume whatever. Everyone is going to go through "peaks and valleys" and the Lakers have to gel and get Pau back in the mix and work some of the kinks out with our bench which I still believe could use an offensive BOOST -- cuz the Clippers are STACKED 1 thru 15 it seems!!!

Overall, I am just happy to see the season begin and am looking forward to a very HAPPY, SUCCESSFUL and HEALTHY season for our Lakers!

First of all: it's all good.

Better lighting on the K Bros. Is this a new Staples stairway?

Reggie says 20 and 1,

TNT dudes wonderin' if anyone can beat us,

Kenny the Jet leadin' the Laker bandwagon.

Marv Albert and crew toutin' Tex for the HALL...

All's good on this Western front.

It is inevitable.

Yes he made some bad decisions, but i woulda done the same if somebody tossed a beer at me. Let's get this man a RING!!!!O LAKERS!! Posted by: ChicNstu | October 28, 2009 at 09:29 AM
KUDOS!!! ChicNstu and need I say it...OUT FREAKIN STANDING!!!!

Oh Lamar. He's a great guy, but with all the interviews he’s doing now, he's exposing himself as not the sharpest cookie in the jar.

And he won't close the lid. Lamar--step away from the camera. Please.

He did play well last night though, despite the fact that he's starting to annoy me with his loooooong vociferous answers to every question.

But, I like the fact that he's in love and he's happy. If you're going to be "in" something you may as well be in love, and not trouble or debt. Budum bum.


The few times I saw the K girls last night, they didn't look too excited. I don't know if they like basketball as much as they like the athletes.


Go Lakers!


Wes

Umm you do realize Miller's the same dude that is picking Boston to beat us in the finals. His errors aren't seldom enough, so here's to the team going 21-0 during that stretch just to prove Miller wrong. Posted by: segeboy fka taliq | October 28, 2009 at 09:37 AM

Well Sheriff what the $%$^^##^&* do you expect from some idiot who runs around in a Purple & Gold Thong! LOCK ME UP SHERIFF!! LOCK ME UP NOW FOR MY OWN GOOD!!!!
OH THE HUMANITY!!!

It's bad enough you stole the five titles from Minneapolis.
It's bad enough we've had to hear you whine for 2 years about Bynum being hurt in 2008 (you wouldn't have Gasol otherwise, so a blessing in disguise)
Now, we have to compare RINGS!!!!!
This is too much. Who cars about the Rings??? Isn't WINNING the rings what is important????
OMG - get me the pail!!!

Quick thoughts since I don't have alot of time today:

1. Kobe has matured as a team leader. Its something we've seen day to day, but the effect of his younger days still follow him.

2. Artest on the court reminds me of Rick Fox. Their flat footed 3 pointers, their post ups, their slow and imposing drives to the basket are similar. Even Ron's awkwardness in the offense reminds me of the first couple of game Rick played with the Lakers.

3. Rick Fox's contribution to 3 championships is underrated.

3. Cavs aren't ready for primetime. They need a better coach.

4. The Celtics can beat the Cavs, but don't look as vicious or imposing as the 2008 team.

5. KG is slower, but hit some difficult shots.

6. Lebron has a more consistent shot....but that won't help his team win or play better.

7. This Laker team is classier than the 3peat teams of 00-02. There's something about not having Shaq around leading the team while doing childish things.

8. The Lakers actually played a pretty bad game. The Clippers were just worse.

9. They Lakers will get better.

10. 20-1 is a bad goal to set. 1-0 should be the goal for the next game is what I'd be telling myself if I were on that team.

I don't know if any one mentioned this but...you know how the bench used to stand until the team scored a basket? Well last night after the first hoop by Drew I noticed something out the corner of my eye. The bench was sitting and they all had thier legs crossed, right foot up resting on left knee, when Bynum's shot finally dropped in they all, in unison, dropped thier right foot, tapped it twice on the floor and raised the left foot up and crossed legs the other way, (except for DJ, who got it wrong) rewatched it on TIVO, absolutly hilarious, any one see it?

Good morning everyone! Great ceremony last night - had class written all over it. Just wish Tex got his ring at the beginning as well. Horry looked like he was going to burst out of that suit - boy has let himself go :)

Game wasn't all that great to watch. Especially with the bee-hive that Boom Dizzle had on.

Bold prediction of the day - Mike Brown will not be head-coach of the Cavs next year.

BLOG CRUE
It's great to be back. I needed some purple and gold. It will be a great season.

I dedicate the ring ceremony to Sir Charles Barkley.

Colorado loves our World Champion Lakers!

I also saw the Sasha Lamar thing out of the corner of my eye. I wonder what's up?


Wes

If you're going to be "in" something you may as well be in love, and not trouble or debt. Budum bum. wesjoenixon | October 28, 2009 at 09:48 AM

I'd rather be "in" THE FINALS!!

rewatched it on TIVO, absolutly hilarious, any one see it?
Posted by: billy in slo | October 28, 2009 at 10:05 AM

The blog gods had a clip of the rtn. on a thread a couple of days ago. Being that they are gods they miss nothing!!!

Wasn't it nice to see "fat" Paul Pierce get 23 and 11 last night?

hi all! it's great to be back :)

question tho, what about Trevor's ring? did he get his already while in Houston...err, Portland?

This is too much. Who cars about the Rings??? Isn't WINNING the rings what is important????OMG - get me the pail!!!
Posted by: stillhavethoseballoons? | October 28, 2009 at 09:52 AM

LOOKS LIKE SOMEONE IS NOT SURE ABOUT HIS TEAM THIS YEAR!
I PREDICT THE WHOLE DAMN TEAM WILL IMPLODE BY ALL-STAR BREAK.
Big Baby and Rondo were only the symptoms. The other shoe has not dropped yet. But it will. IT WILL!!! BE AFRAID SEPTIC FANS, BE VERY AFRAID.

Mamba 24,

Let's create a recycle bin for the visiting Leprechauns. Call their names and drag all their posts on one huge post of recycle bin. When it's green, trash it afterwards flush it. How about that idea?

This is the Lakers Blog and they kept on mushrooming here in every other post, a sign of an unsecured troll wanting for attention.

Bold prediction of the day - Mike Brown will not be head-coach of the Cavs next year. Posted by: hariyahu | October 28, 2009 at 10:12 AM

You call what Mike Brown does coaching? Lol! yeah I think you are right. Actually I think he will be out by All-star break. don't forget Lebraun is a Free Agent after this season. Somebody like Flip Saunders would be a good coach for Lebraun. He get's along good with the players and has a real nice up-tempo system that would fit Lebraun to a T.

Still,

If you don't like hearing about the Lakers - uhm - why do you go out of your way to read and post on a Lakers blog? And why are you surprised Lakers fans prefer the Lakers ring? I would suspect the vast majority of C's fans to pick their teams ring.

I also am curious as to how exactly the Los Angeles Lakers "stole" five championships from Minneapolis. The franchise moved in total to Los Angeles - they didn't completely disband the team (players, staff etc.) they just moved it to a different location. Should the Lakers not count the championships won in the Forum since they now call Staples home? Maybe your C's should give up the titles they won in the old Garden since they don't play there anymore?

In pro sports it seems the standard is if the franchise relocates the records and everything goes with it, the only exception I am aware of is the NFL's Cleveland Browns.

As far as the whining about Bynum. The fact is the last two years the Lakers have missed having their starting center for substantial parts of the season. One season missing the playoffs all together, and last season he was clearly not healthy enough to contribute significantly. It seems there was quite a bit of excuse making from the C's about not having Garnett. Health has a lot to do with teams winning or not winning as your C's and KG found out last year.

Stick around and have fun, but why complain about Lakers fans supporting the Lakers on a Lakers blog?

Peace,
EagleBoy

Good Morning Charles....Good Morning Everyone....

very cool ring ceremony last night...I could really get used to it...in fact, we will all have too...3 of the next 5, 5 of the next 9, as it were, seemingly...

wonder how good of team all our ledgends from last night would still be (adding Kareem as well)even as old guys... (hey our old guys are better than your old guys)...great to see all of them indeed...

I thought we had a typical opening night game after a ring ceremony...we will get better...this is going to be one hell of a season---HUZAH !!!

I also noticed our new first point ritual---saw it in the pre-season as well...wonder who came up with that...

is it Friday yet?

"I roll a stoney"

"I didn't want to be a barber...I want to be a lumberjack.."

AS ALWAYS, AS EVER, YET ANOTHER GREAT DAY (AND CHAMPIONSHIP SEASON) TO BE A LAKER FAN !!!

GO LAKERS !!!

Trevor's team lost last night against Blazers. He must be having some remorse at this time, he couldn't believe that he's now playing with the Rockets. Well, he is also to be blamed for letting his agent carved his destiny.

We missed yesterday Ammo and the great Catalan. The reserves need some gutsy players who would do the scoring and create some mismatches. It is a bad habit in losing leads when the bench comes in, there has to be a mixture our premier players and the reserves , not purely reserves. Shannon is a keeper but he's mixed with scrubs, he will end up as a spectacular scrub as well. Shannon should be with Kobe, Lamar and Artest in order to harness that strength and tap those hidden talents.

Drew has a great evening with 26 pts and 13 rebounds but if he moves around his small guards, taps rebounds to Kobe or Artest, nobody can really beat him on the post with his long hands and wider frame. I believe Odom, Artest and presumably Pau when he comes back, should discuss their territories in the post. There has to be some kind of spacing for tap rebounds, for follow ups without crowding of big men on a small shaded lane while the small players like Gordon or Davis are just waiting for the loose balls. It is like when you throw a food on a Great Dane and St Bernard, it is the Chihuahua who gets it using his quickness. Those are the room for improvement for Drew. Most remarkable change, he's no longer in foul trouble in the 4th quarter.

can someone please post a link that will re-play the game.
My apartment building suffered a power outage last night.
Thanks.

Reading through the comments I have to say we are all in tip-top form, ladies & gents! Tip top!

(Except for maybe a couple of green slimy things crawling around... oh sorry - that was their ring. Meh...)

"Wasn't it nice to see "fat" Paul Pierce get 23 and 11 last night?"

Just imagine what he'll be able to do when Ainge springs for a motorized wheelchair!!

Nice to see a lot of our old faithful back in the live chat yesterday. And yes, the Luke and Fish bashing started right away as well!! Isn't that big part of the fun??

I always wonder what will be do or who will be bash if luckily we're able to trade Luke (well, I know thats has less probability than a guy who did not buy a ticket hitting the lotto!!)

Mamba24, thanks for the compliments. I am both honored and humbled :)

Also, where are the ultra-regulars of our blog - Jon K and LakerTom. Bynum had a good game, and no trace of Laker Tom yet??? :)

(Except for maybe a couple of green slimy things crawling around... oh sorry - that was their ring. Meh...) Posted by: justanothermambafan | October 28, 2009 at 11:06 AM

STOP THAT!! Don't tease the Septics about their ring JAMambaFan Do you realize how long they will have to look at that ugly piece of crap until they get another? OH THE HUMANITY!!!

Eagle Boy - Apparently you are confused.
1. Root for whomever you'd like - I don't care, my POINT is, you won it all last year, and justifiably so, you were the best team. Do the rings have to be better than the 2008 rings? Who cares, you won them. Can't you guys just appreciate that? Probably the 2010 rings will be even better. And Jerry Buss has never been known as a miser, anyway. All this blogging over basically nothing. There were like two posts on Boston.com last year about the rings. There were hundreds on WINNING the rings. I just don't get it.
2.Bynum was NOT hurt in the playoffs last year. He was awful, but not hurt. I have never made any excuses about KG being out - you find a post where I have. Injuries are part of the game. My POINT is, Bynum getting hurt in 2008 actually made you better, because it caused Kupchak to trade for Gasol. Wouldn't have happened otherwise.
3. Finally, I read on the roll call yesterday that the LOS ANGELES lakers have won 15 NBA titles. That is not true. The LOS ANGELES lakers have won 10. If you want to count the 5 won in Minnepolis (as a laker fan would say, back in the stone ages, when all we had was black and white TV), go ahead!! But, the roll call must be amended to say the lakers have won 15, not the Los Angeles lakers. And, does your little rant mean that the Oklahoma City Thunder can claim one NBA title? How about the Atlanta Hawks?
Peace, Eagle Boy, and I look forward to you NOT answering me.

AK/BK did you guys notice when Phil Jackson was called up to get his ring, once he got to Magic he kind of looked away and seemed put off by having to shake Magic's hand.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lbu20jAPM6Q

maybe i over analyzed the sequence.
has Phil ever had beef with Magic?


can someone please post a link that will re-play the game.
My apartment building suffered a power outage last night.
Thanks.Posted by: passionate Lakers fan | October 28, 2009 at 11:04 AM

Here's a pretty good recap of the game. I'll keeep looking and see what I can find. http://tinyurl.com/ylcfjhf
Mamba24


The demise of the Celtics has not been exaggerated. It's merely been outclassed
by the slowness of the fat man. I did think that Stern's Love Child would show
better at home on opening night. Appropriately, the "King of Nothing" was
unable to take out the old men.

Interesting to hear Doc Rivers talking about the Celtics winning the championship
this year. Kobe & Co. will have something to say about this.

Nice work by Bynum. [ nod to LakerTom ]

Kobe drops 30+. Perhaps LeBronze will not win the MVP this year after all...

It has begun! [ The drive for 5. ]

Go Kobe!
Go Lakers!!

"...but why complain about Lakers fans supporting the Lakers on a Lakers blog?"

Because we're the ones stupid enough to keep talking to them. As the saying goes, "argue with a fool, get a fool's response."

Sports Nation confirmed it in a poll this morning.

Boston was voted the city that sports fans hate the most.

Who the heck likes Boston? NO ONEEEEEEEEE

Sorry PssionateLakerFan Wrong Video: http://tinyurl.com/ykaw9uu


Because we're the ones stupid enough to keep talking to them. As the saying goes, "argue with a fool, get a fool's response." Posted by: utzworld - THE BANNER HOLDER | October 28, 2009 at 11:44 AM

LET IT BE SAID, LET IT BE WRITTEN, LET IT BE DONE!!

"Bynum was NOT hurt in the playoffs last year. He was awful, but not hurt."

Fact: The man HIMSELF stated that he was not 100% fully recovered from his injury AND was looking forward to summer vacation to finish rehabbing his knee. Anyone who watches more than ESPN highlights of Laker games could easily tell that the young brother was not 100% during the playoffs.

I guess that's our excuse for not sweeping Orlando during the Finals. LOL!

Good Morning Laker Nation!

It's time for...

Jon K.'s Early Thoughts That He Has Not Put Too Much Thought Into Yet:

1. These thoughts are going to be relatively incomplete for much of the season as I work nights now. I was able to watch chunks of the game in between serving drinks to street criminals and disgruntled former factory workers. Good times.

2. The ring ceremony was magical. Even gruff Akronians got caught up in the emotion. Seeing all the past Champions gathered there, the crowd, the smiles on Kobe and Derek's faces, the banner revealed... it just felt so good.

3. First off, I don't think The Shaq Experiment is going to work. There may be a midseason trade, it may result in such poor results.

4. I'm sorry, but watching Kobe play after watching LeBron play, I am still utterly confused as to how David Stern can claim that LeBron is the "greatest ever." LeBron is NOWHERE NEAR players like Magic Johnson, Kobe Bryant, Michael Jordan and Wilt Chamberlain. He's a poor-man's Oscar Robertson at best... who constantly travels.

5. I watched Shaq try to put up a skyhook in the third quarter. It was awful.

6. The Celtics looked better than I expected.

7. During the ring ceremony, I was pleased as punch to see players like Jamaal Wilkes, Norm Nixon, A.C. Green, Michael Cooper, and Robert Horry honored (I left out Rick Fox because I met him once and he was a complete jerk; in contrast I met Robert Horry and he was a friendly gentleman). With all the Hall of Famers in the Lakers tradition, too many of our players get lost in the shuffle. We've had so many incredible players.

8. Say what you will, the Clippers looked pretty darned good at times.

9. Craig Smith is a monster.

10. Let's face facts: Ron Artest due to his personality issues is the most underrated player in the NBA. The guy can do everything and he is a complete man-dog-brick. HE DRINKS YOUR MILKSHAKE! He makes the Lakers A LOT better... and that's scary.

11. Andrew Bynum has and will not let Laker Tom down.

12. This is the best Clippers team I've ever seen. When Blake Griffin is healthy, they're really going to be something. I'm thinking a fifth seed in the playoffs.

13. Umm... anyone noticed how good we were WITHOUT PAU GASOL on the floor? Wow. Yeah... umm... yeah... healthy Pau Gasol, Lamar Odom super-charging the line-up... this team is going to be good.

14. The crazy thing is that Thriller is going to be the best thing possible for this team's chemistry, in part due to his long-term friendship with Lamar Odom; in part due to his incredibly competitive nature. a) Thriller's long-term friendship with Lamar, keeps Lamar focused and enhances his leadership role as "Captain" of The Bench Mob b) Thriller's competitiveness enhances Kobe's respect of Artest, thus making it easier for Kobe to look beyond Ron's eccentricities c) The focus of three key leaders--Lamar, Kobe, Thriller--is going to lead the team emotionally towards the goal of Championship. Everything is clicking.

What do we play for? RINGS!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!!!

Utz - not 100% and not injured are 2 different things, are they not?
Did you read Eagle Boy's WHOLE post, or just the Reader's Digest version. He said our center was hurt the past two years in the playoffs. NO he wasn't!!!
Thank you for NOT responding to me, but I'm not going away, either. I shall continue to fight injustice where I see it.

BTW - thanks for not responding. I guess that means I'm not a fool, right? Just a highly intelligent person who happens to root for another team..............

Hobbit - again with the age thing????? And how can I possibly get you to comprehend when you won't respond??
So, I get it, you claim the Celtics are old. BUT, Cleveland, who added 82 yr old 722 lb Artist formerly known as Shaq, didn't age at all? Lopsided Lakers Logic strikes again. Did you even watch the game???? Old men don't shoot like that against last year's #1 Defensive team. Sorry to burst your bubble, but the Celtics are VERY viable this year? Oh, and wasn't Kareem like 172 yrs old when he won his last title??? But, I know, Lopsided Lakers Logic says that doesn't make him old (he kept himself in great shape, he was still one of the top centers in the league.....) yeah, I get it!!!

Have a great day and Happy posting!!

Wes,

I saw the Lamar/Sasha spat and here is how I interpretted the events:

1. Sasha got beat on defense and was not positioned properly based upon defensive assignments.

2. Sasha panicked and fouled what was already an easy basket without a hard foul.

3. A foul was called on Sasha and Sasha's body language screamed, "IT'S NOT FAIR!"

4. Lamar saw what happened, grabbed Sasha and basically told him, "Grow up! You screwed up! You got your defensive assignment wrong and you made things worse by fouling! Now fix it and do it right next time!"

5. Sasha after a very brief protest shut up and got back to work.

Quite frankly, I was impressed by Lamar's leadership. I haven't seen that before. He's growing into his role as a Laker and he's focused. It was good to see that evolution.

What do we play for? RINGS!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!!!!

zach from San Diego,

"Boston was voted the city that sports fans hate the most."

I love Boston, but their sports fans are obnoxious, deluded, arrogant, bitter, and classless.

What do we play for? RINGS!!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!!!!

Still,

Here is my answer, talking smack about the rings is silly. The number of posts on the Boston site about rings means nothing. If Lakers fans like the Lakers rings better than the C’s rings is that really a surprise? Wow fans talking smack on a blog what a shocker, oh yeah Boston fans are so classy, the don’t talk smack.

Bynum was not healthy. If you want to play games with the word hurt – go ahead. Everyone knows that Bynum was not healthy, did not play anywhere close to his ability due to the knee. The Lakers STILL won it without a meaningful contribution from their starting Center. If you want to say he is a crap player and he is awful, that is your prerogative. Let’s hope we can see how a healthy C’s squad deals with a healthy Lakers squad in the Finals including the awful Andrew Bynum.

Finally, franchises, even when they move historically have taken their “championships” with them. The NBA official site gives the Hawks credit for a title, even though they are in Atlanta now and won it while based in St. Louis. If you wish to whine about the a blogger claiming 15 Championships for the Los Angeles Lakers, go ahead, but it is a technicality. You can break down the Lakers titles any which way you wish it won’t change the fact that the Lakers are the best franchise in the NBA for the last 30 years. (Please not key point: last 30 years, I did not say, nor imply of all time)

Regarding the Thunder: The owners agreed to leave the 'SuperSonics' name, logo, and colors in Seattle for a possible future NBA franchise; however the items would remain the property of the Oklahoma City team along with other "assets," including championship banners and trophies.

EagleBoy

zach from san diego:

As far as Boston hating goes, I'd attribute a lot of that to Bill Simmons. Same with Portland, I don't have anything against the city (or any city for that matter), but having homers like Simmons and Abbot who can't seem to think rationally when it comes to their teams, and their (perceived)rivals, just makes it easy to despise them.

Mamba24,

It's not Mike Brown's "coaching" (did you see the Shaq cheat sheet on TrueHoop the other day? HILARIOUS!) as much as the fact that the Big Witness (or is it Witless) Protection will throw his coach under the bus @ the first opportunity he gets. ..

stillhavethoseballoons:

If it's fair to discount the 5 Laker titles from Minneapolis, isn't it also fair to discount the 8 Celtic titles from back in the day when the league was a lot smaller? I mean, it wasn't a very different league back then wasn't it? What with all the rumors of Red being able to choose his referees, screwing around with the visiting team's locker room etc.? Just saying..

As for "fighting injustice", dude (or dudette), you're on a Lakers' blog - you'll be fighting injustice forever :)

Not to take away from the Lakers ring ceremony last night but how many UCLA basketball greats were in attendance? Kareem, Jamaal Wilkes, Bill Walton, Reggie Miller, Baron Davis and Jordan Farmar. Only in LA can we have two great dynasties. Go Bruins! and Go Lakers!

Jon K,


If that's how things went down between Lamar and Sasha, then I'm impressed by Lamar too. He played so well last night, the first game with his new bride watching. Lets hope he keeps it up.


Wes

Regarding the green trolls, besides having no bragging rights, the Celtics are to the NBA what the UCLA Bruins are to the NCAA--yesterday's heroes. Old news.

I'm a Laker/Bruin fan from day 1, but all that matters is how they do this year.

If both LA and Boston make it to June, great; the rematch should be epic.

And our boys will be champs again.

Maybe Shaq will be available for 2011 to help the Celts try to put the brakes on the dynasty. Or perhaps MJ will lace 'em up.

Nothing will stop The Driven One until he hangs up his sneakers.

Enjoy the ride.

John

Lakers rings are gaudy and not as classy as the Celtics. Then again, it is the west coast......new money can't buy class.

Go C's!


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