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Charley Rosen on the triangle offense

The mechanics of the triangle offense can for some be tough to understand (this, by the way, includes some players who attempt to execute it).

If you're looking for a good tutorial, Charley Rosen of Fox Sports.com has a great breakdown near the bottom of this mailbag. Here's how he defines the central premise of the system:

"The Triangle is based on the undeniable premise that no matter which player has the ball, it's impossible for opponents to play deny-defense on the other four offensive players without permitting various backdoor cuts, lob passes and easy scores. In fact, if the wings are indeed denied, the Triangle's automatic procedure is to have the center move up to the foul line and receive the ball there — which opens up help-free cutting lanes for the wings and gives the center easy targets."

From there, it's a nice breakdown of the cause/effect action each pass and cut causes within the offense. Read today, watch for it tonight.

BK

 
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Mamba24-That green icon sure looks good on you! Did you do that subconsciously? Not quite the right shade but close enough. Welcome my friend! Posted by: 131-92 | October 19, 2009 at 11:09 AM

OUT OUT GREEN SPOT! IF YOU CUT ME DO I NOT BLEED 131. you wound me deeply sir. 2 points for you.
Mamba24

131: There were ZERO police reports at the Coliseum. Darn the hooligans you saw on Championship night. 100,000 fans the following Wednesday showed true class and displayed to the world what the TRUE FANS OF LAKER NATION were all about.

At least we didn't throw rocks at the Orlando Magic's team bus. Or yell out "YOU'RE NOT SUPERMAN" to Dwight Howard. Heck...I don't even think we booed them at the Coliseum. That is called RESPECTING YOUR ENEMY. Take a hint.

131, honestly, I wouldn't align with the Balloon guy. At least you don't get things completely wrong or you can back up your biting comments with some truth.

The balloon guy questions what's generally known about the dismantling of the Bulls....and we here aren't even Bulls fans. Let's face it, the Celtics weren't even on anyone's radar at the time, the Lakers were a year from winning it again, and the Bulls were the centerpiece franchise. How could you not know that?

Mamba24,

"CHANGE THE ICONS FROM GREEN TO PURPLE & GOLD – BANDWAGON"

Tell me about it, brother! What the hell? Green fricken icons? Those should be reserved for trolls only. Whoever created these icons does not think. Purple and gold is the ONLY thing that makes sense!

What do we play for? RINGS!!!

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Hey #4 - Sorry, looked it up for myself. No mention of Floyd, or Cartwright. Krause retired in 1993, but I did find this:

Besides Michael Jordan, other noteworthy NBA stars that Jackson has coached, such as Scottie Pippen, Horace Grant, Shaquille O'Neal, Kobe Bryant, Lamar Odom and Pau Gasol, never won NBA championship titles before their teams adopted the triangle system. Other teams, such as the New Jersey Nets and Indiana Pacers, have adopted certain elements of the offense, but in NBA history, only teams coached by Phil Jackson have used the arsenal of the offense in its entirety.[citation needed]

I know, it's COMMON knowledge that the Bulls used it after Phil left, right?? COMMON knowledge, yet I can't find it referenced anywhere. Perhaps it is YOU that needs to do some research. When a new coach comes in, he puts in his own stuff. Sorry, but Toni Kukoc was not MJ. It was designed FOR MJ, to circumvent the Jordan rules, as designed by Chuck Daly of the Pistons. To get MJ some clean looks, and stop the double-teaming. Oh yeah, I forgot, I'm a Celtics fan, so I don't know basketball. LOL......

To get MJ some clean looks, and stop the double-teaming. Oh yeah, I forgot, I'm a Celtics fan, so I don't know basketball. LOL......Posted by: stillhavethoseballoons? | October 19, 2009 at 12:05 PM

gET REAL mR. BALLONS i LIVED IN cHICAGO DURING THE BULLS DOUBLE 3PEAT AND DURING TIM FlOYD'S TIME AND bILL CARTWRIGHT TIME AND IT IS COMMON KNOWLEDGE THAT THE TRIANGLE WAS USED DURING BOTH REGIMES. IN FACT THE REASON BILL CARTWRIGHT WHO WAS THE COACH AFTER TIM FLOYD WAS FIRED IS BECAUSE HE DIDN'T WANT TO USE THE TRIANGLE ANY MORE PRECISELY BECAUSE HE DIDN'T HAVE THE PROPER PERSONNEL TO RUN IT. JERRY KRAUSE SCREWED UP THE TEAMS TRYING TO PROVE " ORGANIZATIONS WIN CHAMPIONSHIP NOT PLAYERS" IT WAS NOT UNTIL JERRY REINSDORF FIRED KRAUSE THAT THE BULLS WERE ALLOWED TO RUN ANYTHING BUT THE TRIANGLE. IF YOU CAN DISPROVE ANY OF THIS I WILL BECOME A SEPTIC FAN FOR LIFE.
MAMBA24

Still,

From Sports Illustrated 3/8/99:

This season has been as challenging for Winter as any in his 52 years of coaching. As the architect of the Chicago triangle, he was asked by new coach Tim Floyd to stick around and teach the unique read-and-react offense to a team with eight new players, including three starters.

You can check it for yourself. The Bulls did run it after Phil end of story.

EagleBoy

Still,

You say:

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Oh yeah, I forgot, I'm a Celtics fan, so I don't know basketball. LOL......
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I'll have to agree with you. Here's what you say about the triangle:

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When a new coach comes in, he puts in his own stuff. Sorry, but Toni Kukoc was not MJ. It was designed FOR MJ, to circumvent the Jordan rules, as designed by Chuck Daly of the Pistons. To get MJ some clean looks, and stop the double-teaming.
>>>>

The triangle was designed before Jordan was born.
Tex must have been able to see into the future.

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In 1952, Winter began a two-year stint as head coach at Marquette University, becoming the youngest coach in major college basketball. In 1954 Winter returned to Kansas State.[1][2] Winter served as Kansas State's head coach for the following 15 years, posting a 261-118 (.689) record, winning eight Big Eight Conference titles, and advancing to two Final Fours. Winter was named the national Coach of the Year in 1958. In 1962, Winter also literally wrote the book on the triangle offense – the offense which he utilized with such success at Kansas State – entitled The Triple-Post Offense. Following his departure from Kansas State, Winter served shorter stints as head coach at the University of Washington (where he was hired by then Athletic Director Joseph Kearney), Northwestern University, and Long Beach State. In total, Winter won 454 games at the collegiate level.
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Again, logic & trolls don't mix.


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Great post. It really gives some great insight into the triangle offense; which is often misunderstood.

HBMatt - come in the beginning of the conversation, or don't come in at all. The Triangle Offense was "designed" at USC in the 1940's. It was "re-designed" - is that a better word, for Michael Jordan, by Tex Winter in the 1990's. Chuck Daly's Pistons were holding and grabbing Jordan, and double-teaming him. Hence, Winter and Jackson "brought in " the Triangle Offense. Since it was never used in the NBA before, it was seen as "new". But, we BOTH know that is not the case, right?

 
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