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It's just different here

Buy a season ticket package in Milwaukee, and they'll send Michael Redd to your house for afternoon tea. He'll even bring the crumpets.

I kid (I think), but as illustrated by the New York Times, it's fair to say that with the '09-'10 campaign quickly approaching and the economy still teetering like a Jenga stack, teams across the NBA are pulling out all the stops in an effort to sell as many season seats as possible to their fans. Or any fans, really. The New Jersey Nets, for example,are offering a partial season ticket package including ten high profile games and five "free" reversible jerseys, one side featuring a Nets player, the other a jersey from a star player on five of the visiting teams (no surprise, Kobe is among the quintet) included in the offer. The Warriors have offered a signed Stephon Curry print to provide a little frosting for a season ticket cake. As the NYT notes, even strong, competitive teams like the Mavs are dangling a free ticket to this year's All Star Game (held in Big D) for every full season package purchased.

But in another example- as discussed on our most recent 710 ESPN Lakers podkast- of how Planet Lakers spins through the NBA universe on a singular orbit, none of this applies to them.

The first thing visitors see upon visiting LAL's season ticket page at Lakers.com is information on how to join the wait list. While it's not quite as hopeless as Green Bay, where fans added today might expect to enter Lambeau as an STH in about 2039, should you find yourself near the tail of LA's 3K-plus strong Rolodex of would-be Staples regulars, it's probably best to bring a magazine or two to pass the time. Two years ago, coming off their loss in the Finals to Boston, the Lakers renewed at a 99% clip. Last year, thanks to the economy, that figure plunged to 98%. Freedom for about 50 people on the 3K-plus strong waiting list.

"We're very aware of how lucky we are," says Veronica Lawlor, Director of Ticket Sales and Operations. Talking to her Wednesday afternoon, Lawlor told me that the most recent figures she'd seen has the leaguewide renewal rate "in the neighborhood of the high seventies, low eighties." That makes for a unique setup down in El Segundo. "We don't have a ticket sales department for our season ticket sales, we have a customer service department," Lawlor says.

Demand is so strong that the Lakers don't need to offer partial ticket packages, something virtually every team in the league does (the LAC, for example, have myriad options). The benefits for the Lakers are clear. Season and group sales mean about 95% of Staples Center is accounted for before the year begins. The other 5% goes fast. They know they'll sell out every home game before the playoffs, making income from tickets and all the things that come with strong attendance (concession sales, parking, and so on) wholly predictable.

As an added bonus, the Lakers don't need a huge sales staff to pound the pavement, which saves a little coin as well. 

Add that the Lakers sell out on the road as well- most of those aforementioned partial ticket plans promote visits from Kobe and Co, with the Warriors even creating a "Lakers Pack"- and revenues become that much easier to forecast. Factor in TV, a new radio deal, and so on, and you get a sense of how things stack up. It's not simply that the Lakers make a lot of money- they do- but that they know how and when much of it will come. Predictability makes investing in the team far easier, and, evidenced by their league high projected payroll for this year of over $91 million (with luxury tax obligations pushing salary related obligations north of $110 million) 

People often talk about Los Angeles (the city, I mean) existing in a Hollywood-and-constant-sunshine induced bubble, and there's some truth to that. Certainly any metropolis in which decisions on how NBC fills its 8:30 time slot on Wednesdays can create a ripple effect is unique in character, but for most of LA County's 10 million or so residents that which impacts life everywhere else in the country does the same for them. But in the world of professional sports- certainly as bubblicious and disconnected from day-to-day realities as anything that can be said about Hollywood- the Lakers really do seem to be operating in their own orbit, at least as pertains to ticket sales.

I realize the equation joining their bottom line and a bad economy isn't that simple, but just as most GMs would trade their roster for LA's, if given a chance to swap income streams with Dr. Buss, I assume most other owners across the NBA would jump. I've said it before, I'll say it again: In the battle between roundball have's and have not's, it's good to be a have.

BK

 
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ODE TO A BLOG GOD
So let me hear it, what you say, send out a cheer for Blog God AK
He tried to hold out, as long as he could, but he’ll soon be hooked, Knock on wood
And oh yeah we’re going to have a parade, you bring the cake I got the Kool Aid
That was a real fine sermon BANNER HOLDER, Now make sure AK doesn’t get a cold shoulder
So both Blog Gods will be married men, what away for Dynasty #4 to begin
AK you done good, I wish you well, now get ready to hear those wedding Bells
BK will be best man I assume, the rest of the Blog will back up the groom
Well all I have to say is one more thing,
Do I have to say it… OUT FREAKING STANDING!!!!!!!!
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AK WEDDED BLISS BANDWAGONCONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR WEDDING A.K. -- BANDWAGON
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(00) utzworld THE BANNER HOLDER – OWNER - Parddon my rudeness. I've been too busy exterminating green cockroaches that I didn't say a prayer for AK's marriage. Congratz, bro!
LET US PRAY Dear Lord, as you lead and guide the other half of our fearless leadership AK into holy matrimony, we at Lakers Blog ask Your Hand of love, grace, mercy, blessing, and PATIENCE to rest on him and his lovely bride as they begin their new lives together. Seal their love in Your Spirit. May they enjoy their day but remember most of all that the TRUE GLORY comes from the life they will build together - not from the wedding day itself. May their union be fruitful with bundles of little AK's to fill their lives with joy. Bless their love. Bless their marriage. Bless their lives. We of Laker Nation proudly celebrate them! We thank You for Your love and answered prayer...AMEN!
(01) DRIVERS - CONGRATULATIONS TO AK on HIS UPCOMING NUPTUALS bandwagon -DRIVER(S) - eveyone on the LA TIMES Lakers Blog
(02) LAKERTOM – DRIVER - - Congratulations on your impending matrimony. May you have as many happy years together as Mrs. LakerTom and I have had. Just don’t pull a “Heartbreak Kid” on your honeymoon. LOL!So buckle up, Andy, because you have placed the fandom of your offspring at risk by marrying an alien fan. You need to make sure to appease the Gods by extracting the proper promises from the future Mrs. AK before tying the knot. There are standard forms you can download at legal.zoom. Just search for prenuptial fan agreements. Good luck. (Andy, all in fun. May you both enjoy the next 50 years of Lakers domination. I’m sure that being the guru of the hottest sports blog on the Internet will ensure that your kids will wear purple and gold.) May the blog have a new ball boy and ball girl.
(03) JesterGuru - Seriously, congrats to you, AK, for manning up and checking out. May your road together be one filled with happiness and shared delight. Except when it's Lakers-Spurs. Then your delight is paramount.
(04) Thirty2 – AK...Good luck man...Dont trust anyone that says trust me.....Trust Me...Once all has settled down,if you dont already have a space,create your own space.,Trust Me.. In that space that you create,find time with your mates to share that space.......... Trust Me... Even if its a room/basement with a bar or flat screen tv .......Trust Me.. And happily ever after will follow....Trust Me... Congratulations to the both of you and all the best for the future..
(05) Marty - Special wedding message for AK: Woman marry men, hoping they will change, and they don't. Men marry women, hoping they won't change, and they do. Boy, what an awful message. It's not true. All the time. I've been married for a happy 22 years, and my wife still puts up with my fruitless attempts to become a screenwriter.
(06) JAMIE SWEET - Congrats AK, is she taking your last name? Enjoy the 'moon, it will end far too quickly and you'll be back wrangling us bloggers.
(07) MR NANO - Marriage? - What you going to do to entertain us next? You are pushing too hard, don't you think? This off season is toooo long. I want the Lakers back now!!!
(08) WESJOENIXON - Count me in on the good wishes to you and your bride.
(09) KIWI - Congratulations and good luck AK... It's bound to affect the groupie situation somewhat but that can't be helped
(10) PUDDLE - Holy @#$&, AK. Your wife is a Spurs fan? Well, I guess she's a basketball fan and that's better than nothing. But damn. I hope you got pre-nups! (just kidding) Congrats and enjoy your honeymoon.
(11) MUD - sorry to be so late to the party. congratulations, and the best of luck, AK!
(12) LONGTIMELAKERLOVER - AK - Congratulations on your impending nuptials! I wish you every happiness and joy in your marriage. Enjoy every moment, and especially your honeymoon. God bless your life together.
(13) DON MIGUEL - Enjoy the bachelor party, er, wedding!
(14) ANTHONY G. - AK, you ain't touching what thing? ;) Congrats and have a great honeymoon!
(15) BAYWOOD - Congatulations AK to You and Your Bride. May she be as wise as your Mom (Don't tell her I said that!!)
(16) JUSTANOTHERMAMBAFAN - AK - congratulations!! My better half & I have been married 17 years (together 22)and I have to say there's nothing better. I hope you and your future wife enjoy married bliss for many years to come. Just remember - you will have some problems (we all do), but keep the door to the divorce room firmly closed and always remember it's ALL ABOUT THE LOVE!!
(17) JON K - We DEFINITELY need to create an AK continual married/wedded bliss bandwagon. AK, Man, I wish you and your wife nothing but happiness in your marriage! Let me give you one small piece of advice as you boldly go forth into that future of love and commitment: YOU and your wife over the decades will change. Everyone does. It's human nature. When people have trouble in relationships, it constantly comes down to "He/she isn't the person I married!" Of course he/she isn't, because people change. The beautiful spiritual challenge of marriage (and the test of true love) is continuing to love a person despite the fact that they've changed (even celebrating that change), because that is abiding in a love for the only thing that is truly real and enduring in a person: Their true nature, their eternal soul. THAT is real love and THAT is the beautiful spiritual challenge which marriage invites you to explore and THAT endures forever. Congratulations, brother! Hopefully you two will create some part of the next generation of Laker Nation
(18)MAMBA24 - despite our differences the best of luck man. You treat her good now or you'll have a whole blog on your back
(19) EXHELODRVR – Congratulations AK.

BK - no, no - it's not GOOD to be a have.

It's FREAKING GREAT to be a have!!!

It's probably the only place in our lives where most of us have the privilege of being a HAVE. And it's AWESOME.

WE WON WE WON WE WON!!!!

And we're going to do it again...and again...and again...for the foreseeable future.

AWESOME.

Just curious,who else is on the waiting list besides me? And if so, how long have you been waiting? I'm at about a year.

ex,


>>> LakerTom,


>>> I'm surprised Cooper isn't ahead of Horry on your list.
>>> Other than that, I would have the same top 10.


Hey, ex. Good to hear from you and see that we share some blog-sync-think. Guess there is still a chance for bi-partisanship after all. :)


What’s tough about making up a Top Ten Lakers list is deciding where to rank the players who only played part of their careers with the Lakers. I would have a hard time putting any Laker ahead of Magic, for example, but if Kareem had played his entire career with the Lakers, he would have been my #1. Then maybe it would be a tie with Wilt if HE had spent his entire career in purple and gold. That would be the only reason why I would consider putting Coop in at 10; when all is said and done, Horry was the better player and one of the greatest in the clutch in the playoffs. But Coop was #11.


LAKERTOM’S “CURRENT” TOP TEN LAKERS LIST
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1-Magic, 2-Kareem, 3-Kobe, 4-West, 5-Baylor, 6-Wilt, 7-Shaq, 8-Worthy, 9-Wilkes, 10-Horry


Not to replay the old “what if” about Kobe and Shaq, but just browsing my Top Ten Lakers List clearly shows the power a franchise derives when they can keep their superstars. Imagine if the Lakers had all of these players for their entire careers. We would have 25 titles by now, not just 15. That is why Andrew Bynum is so critical to the short and long term fortunes of the Lakers. Two franchise players playing their entire overlapping careers with the Lakers is the perfect recipe for a super dynasty.


I have been shaking my head and smiling at the various cautionary comments by worried Laker fans that it is going to be tough for the Lakers to repeat. The more I analyze the Lakers and other teams, the surer I am that we are going to run away with the title for the next several years. I am bracing for a period of time where my hyperbole will be lost among the adoration and praise pouring from every corner of the sports universe about what may become the greatest Lakers dynasty of them all.


So let’s irritate Edwin’s bowels and bolt into the future 10 years and take a look at my possible Top Ten Lakers List after the current group of players have made their mark by winning six more NBA championships, giving Kobe 10 rings; Drew, Pau, and Lamar 7 rings, and Ron 6 rings. The Fourth Dynasty’s 7 championships will catapult the other 4 members of the Lakers Super Five onto the list:


LAKERTOM’S “FUTURE” TOP TEN LAKERS LIST
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1-Kobe, 2-Magic, 3-Kareem, 4-Bynum, 5-West, 6-Gasol, 7-Artest, 8-Baylor, 9-Wilt, 10-Odom


Even more ironic will be the addition of an entire new generation of Lakers fans for whom the current group of players are the only Lakers team they have rooted, fans who may not even remember Shaq or the 2000-2003 championship teams. And Magic will just be that ex-player who owns a small part of the Lakers and a big part of a lot of movie theaters they see on TNT from time to time. And Kobe may finally be revered as greater than even MJ himself. And Lakers head coach Derek Fisher will have won his 5th championship as the Lakers head coach with his sights on the 12 rings his mentor Phil Jackson won before retiring after his fourth threepeat. Anyway, that’s what I see in my crystal ball. More of the same that I see in my rear-view mirror: more Los Angeles Lakers NBA Championships.

Tom

BK,

I agree that the Lakers are very fortunate not to have these ticket sales problems. Watching games on NBA League Pass showed me the Lakers are the hottest ticket in town. I remember watching a Milwuakee and Indiana game and recognizing the vast amount of open seats. It was like watching a summer league game. However, when the Lakers come to town, every arena is buzzing. I can't stress enough how different the arena's energy is when the Lakers visit. The seats are full and the opposing teams play with more life and desperation. Even the other teams' broadcasters know the difference, and that's why it's important for the Lakers to realize that every team is looking to highlight their season with a win over the Lakers. I don't observe this attitude with any of the other NBA franchises.

REPOST

Here's something to discuss:

Who is going to be the defensive coordinator this season? Last year Kurt implemented a pretty good system, do we just kep on rolling with that or do we need to add a wrinkle or two now that we have Artest?

Would you rather see more man-to-man defense or should we stick with the loaded weak side which we exhibited last season?

I think we need add a simplified zone. Put Fish (or a secondary PG) at the top of the key, have Kobe and Artest handle the wings and let Gasol and Bynum anchor the post. If Brown is playing, I say we just man up, if Farmar or Fisher is in, I say we do the weak side zone with switching.

Defense is going to be an even bigger component than last year as we have a ginormous target on our collective purple and gold back sides. This should not be under-estimated. I thought the Celtics were ROLLING HARD last season, until they got to Los Angeles and had their apple cart turned over, then they went into a nose dive they never quite seemed to recover from. KG looked worn from hyping his team, which wanted to coast because they are SOOOOO amazing, look what happened. Boston fans can hoot and holler over KG all they want, but injuries happen and they don't put asteriks by the team that won last year but suffered some injury or another that (seemingly) bumps them out of serious contention.

I really hope the staff harps on defense in pre-season because that will carry us through those tough nights when nobodies shot is falling, defense will allow us to still win. With Gasol, Bynum and Odom, we should have the rebounding, but it's cutting down on easy baskets, especially for streaky players and speedy guards, that will get us back to the Big Dance.

Thoughts?

Great.


Now if we can just get all those season ticket holders to start screaming their lungs out as opposed to sitting on their hands in the dark, we might finally have things in order.


What do we play for? RINGS!!!


Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.


GO LAKERS!!!

Agreed, could you imagine trying to get enthusiasm for a team that's already a non-contender for the trophy, half way thru the season in say...Minneapolis.....in the middle of winter...by the way, why did the team change from Milaukee Bucks to Minneapolis woodchuck-chewers "under the table dealing"...I just woke up, that's what happened right? the bucks became the Minneapolis T-Wolves......I miss the days of the Baltimore Bullets....they always had those striped uniforms, kinda had a patriotic theme....

BK, Excellent post. Nothing more need be said.

It's not just the fact that we have one of the best owners, and one of the most laureate teams. WE are the purple and gold...The history, the trophies, the players, the spotlight....
Our revenues must be higher than any other teams...
The tickets are sold by itself...The LakeShow it's that magical....
Feel proud laker fans...We are part of one of the biggest brands in the world(I'm from Colombia, and if you ask a little kid about NBA Bball,he's gonna say Lakers)...
and one of those rare things that captivate deep inside...

Please add me to the AK wedded bliss bandwagon.

This is one of the many things I love about the Lakers: no frills.

No promotional ticket packages featuring OTHER teams (WTF is that?). No idiotic male cheerleaders shooting T-Shirts into the stands. No goofy noises when the opposing team misses a free throw. No stupid mascot running around like a jackass. No burning the opposing team's jersey before the game (Kings). No cowbells (Kings again). No irritating PA announcer dumbing down the game with horrible catchprases (I'm looking at you DEEE-TROIT).

Keep it simple stupid. Laker band, Laker girls, free tacos and a damn good basketball team. THAT'S the way it SHOULD be.

God, I love the Lakers.

Shoutout to Andrew-Number24. That was beautiful, man. \o/

Of course I'm in on the AK wedded bliss band wagon.

Regading the perceived lack of noise at home games (arguably one of Jon K's biggest pet peeves): Having been to 2 consecutive blowouts for 2 straight years, I can't really hate on the lack of noise in those instances. But I will co-sign on the fact that our fans are nowhere near the maniacal sort that we see across other arenas. Blame it on Hollywood? Blame it on stargazing?

Or blame it on A NIGHTLY EXPECTATION TO WIN?

We are spoiled. We are so used to seeing the Purple & Gold win that, in spite of 15 point deficits midway through the 3rd Quarter, we naturally expect our guys to pull out the win. We've had all these Wilts and Logos and Skyhooks and Baylors and no-look passes and Coop-A-Loops and Diesels and 0.4's and Mambas and whatnot that winning is not a hope for us. It's an expectation - an expectation which almost lost us Kobe. So when the game's on the line with 5:00 left in the 4th and we're leading the Pacific by 22 games, excuse us if it takes a minute to get our pom-poms flowing.

:)

Its the same reason everyone believes the lakers are the favorites of commissioner David Stern and that there is a yearly conspiracy theory to have the Lakers in the finals. Ratings always go up when the Lakers are in the finals, nobody wants to see the Cavs vs the Spurs like in 2007. Like David Stern answered when he was once asked who he would like to see in the NBA finals and he answered the Lakers vs the Lakers. So enjoy it Laker fans we are the golden child of the commish.

Even with Bynum, Gasol, Odom, Artest and Kobe, one question still remains for the Lakers. Who is the POINT GUARD?

What Point Guard qualities best fit with this talent in place. Is the future now for PG or we are still searching?

Next question. Bench role players. Who are they?

Without Ariza, Lakers now only have Shannon Brown who is athletic quick and long.

What's up Lakerville!
Haven't been on here for awhile that I think I missed some good news. Congrats to AK on his nuptials! So, does this mean that we won't be hearing from you until the start of the season? jk... enjoy your honeymoon! ;-D

AK - congrats o the upcoming nuptials and if the missus tells you to stop blogging at 3 in the morning, you listen!

Rick F - just wanted to mention how much I liked your Farmar post from a couple days ago. Well stated and very classy. Who knows, maybe PJ will employ an assistant coach just for Fish, Farmar and Shannon. They could operate as their own special elite unit - 5 minute rotations each, wired for sound and video... go, go, go!

General question - does anyone thing Madsen will land with another team this year?

puddle,


"This is one of the many things I love about the Lakers: no frills.

No promotional ticket packages featuring OTHER teams (WTF is that?). No idiotic male cheerleaders shooting T-Shirts into the stands. No goofy noises when the opposing team misses a free throw. No stupid mascot running around like a jackass. No burning the opposing team's jersey before the game (Kings). No cowbells (Kings again). No irritating PA announcer dumbing down the game with horrible catchprases (I'm looking at you DEEE-TROIT)."


Dude, I completely concur. I went a Cavs game this year (to watch the Clippers) and I was AMAZED (in an absolutely bad way). It was more circus than basketball game. Mascots running around, dance squads, fireworks going off, shirts being fired into the stands, fans being interviewed during timeouts because they won contest... it was just neverending. It put the game in the background. It beyond annoying.


What do we play for? RINGS!!!!


Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.


GO LAKERS!!!!

Trade to make. Yeah I know our roster looks good but imagine this. Luke Walton , Shasha V and Mbenga to the Charlotte Bobcats for Tyson Chandler. I like this trade because it brings interior defense and quickness. Sure it hurts losing Luke and Shasha but Ron Artest can do what they do while Tyson would open up a whole new bag of tricks. A rotation of Bynum, Gasol, Odom, Tyson ,Artest and Kobe would match up well with Orlando , Cleveland and Boston's big line-ups.

Well, the following sentence can sum-up the LA scenario in a single line:

Los Angeles, where Incredible(s) happens!!

Best Wishes to you and your intended bride, AK.
May you enjoy a long and happy life together!!

Puddle....I second your thoughts in that post...Well said....

BK,


Excellent take. It IS different here. That’s what I have always tried to get the naysayers and doubters to remember every time they lose faith and jump off the bandwagon. We are the LA Lakers – not the Cavaliers or the Clippers – the franchise that has won 15 NBA championships and is poised for what can only be described as a SUPER DYNASTY, spanning the careers of back-to-back franchise players.


You have to laugh at the dying thralls of those hopeless Celtics trolls gamely hanging on as they watch their team’s fleeting championship window get rudely slammed shut by the Lakers. You can almost smell the fear of another 20 years of futility and humiliation from the hollow bravado of their posts. The Celtics are aging and holding onto scarecrow KG’s bum knee praying to string one more ring before crashing and burning while the Lakers are primed to dominate everybody for the next decade.


Boston had its brief run in the sun but now its time for the Celtics to return to traditional mediocrity. The Lakers now own them just like the Yankees own the Red Sox. The curse of Red Auerbach and Babe Ruth will return with vengeance as both Boston franchises face hard times. Lakers and Yankee dynasties are on the horizon. And just like that, the world has been righted and goodness rewarded.


Tom

Jamie,


>>> I really hope the staff harps on defense in pre-season because that will carry us through those
>>> tough nights when nobodies shot is falling, defense will allow us to still win. With Gasol,
>>> Bynum and Odom, we should have the rebounding, but it's cutting down on easy baskets,
>>> especially for streaky players and speedy guards, that will get us back to the Big Dance.


Excellent post. I am guessing that part of the Lakers “economy” moves includes not replacing Rambis with a new assistant coach. I mean, it’s not like we have a shortage of assistants. Probably 1 coach for every 2 players. But with Phil working on a year-to-year basis, I think replacing Rambis might be a great opportunity to bring in somebody with the charisma and stature to possible succeed Phil. The guy who comes to mind immediately to me is Michael Cooper, who would be a great defensive coach.


As for our team defense next year, I think it will be dramatically improved over this year, so much so that the Lakers are going to become almost unbeatable. We have basically taken the team that won the NBA championship last year and added 2 potential All-NBA defensive players in a healthy Andrew Bynum and proven defensive stopper Ron Artest. These two players will totally transform the Lakers defense this year. Kobe, Artest, and Bynum should be make one of the All-NBA Defensive Teams.


The most impressive and encouraging news to me were the stats that somebody posted that showed what a great job Artest does against LeBron, Melo, and Paul Pierce. That was the real reason that the Lakers didn’t blink in grabbing Artest when he became available and letting Trevor walk. This was a great move with a specific objective not unlike the Lakers obtaining Mychal Thompson to guard Kevin McHale, the Celtics trading for Dennis Johnson to guard Magic, or the Spurs getting Bruce Bowen to guard Kobe. Artest immediately fits into the Lakers repertoire like the final piece of the puzzle.


I look for a much more physical and aggressive team next year. A healthy Drew and fired up Artest are likely going to make the Lakers appear to be more of the bullies in most games. Our height, length, and size advantage is going to be very intimidating. We can basically man the 3, 4, and 5 spots with a combination of Drew, Pau, Lamar, and Ron for 48 minutes per game. The only time we are going to play Walton, Powell, Morrison, or Mbenga will be fourth quarter garbage time.


The big X factor though is Andrew Bynum. Time to take off the training wheels and dominate like he was the last two years before the unfortunate injuries. Needless to say, if Drew becomes the Beast, then we are in for a treat that most professional sports fans never experience, an experience that only Celtics fans from the 50’s or Wooden’s Bruin fans from the 60’s experienced: TOTAL DOMINATION.


And the domination is not going to be limited to the defensive end. The Lakers are going to lead the league in points in the paint scored and least points in the paint allowed. They are also going to lead the league in points differential. Defensively, the only hole the Lakers have left is the need for a super fast and quick point guard who can run step for step with the quick point guards that kill the Lakers. It would be great if we could get a great man-to-man defender like UCLA’s Darren Collison.


Tom

dang, I was so tired I forgot the bucks do exist on paper, sorry.....
Hey I missed another roll call....Well, I'm gonna look for my knee pads and go shoot some hoops....

BK - Living in Detroit I've witnessed one of the better run and financed franchises in the NBA and yet the Pistons are a "have not" compared to the Lakers. Last year when they got Iverson Detroit ran a promotion for a 5-pack calling it the Fiverson pack.

It's great to see so many Laker fans at all the road games. (My all time favorite moment was when the fans in Boston started chanting MVP for Kobe a few years ago) Here's the link in case our Celtic visitors want to dispute it.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/recap?gameId=270131002

The Laker brand is the strongest in professional sports rivaled only by the Yankees. It's also good to know the Lakers never tanked away seasons like two other supposedly proud franchises like Boston and SA did in 97...Duncan sweepstakes. Or like Boston did in 07.

LakerTom - thanks for peering into the crystal ball for us. I like your view.

JamieSweet - I think the Lakers should keep the same D principals. My only complaint is sometimes they need to be flexible and adjust based on the opponent. For example, I can understand loading up the strong side when going against a super quick guard like Brooks, CP3 or TParker. Or against someone that can't be handled with one defender (Lebron, DWill, BRoy, etc). But why continue to overplay against Kyle Lowry or Steve Blake? The addition of Artest will help against the Lebrons and BRoy's.

AK - My God bless your marriage

LRob

Keep it simple stupid. Laker band, Laker girls, free tacos and a damn good basketball team. THAT'S the way it SHOULD be.

God, I love the Lakers.

Posted by: puddle

Puddle - I totally, completely, unabashedly, shamelessly, 100% concur. I LOVE THE LAKERS, and sure need it to be October SOON!

Everyone have a great week-end!

Stay safe and out of trouble....(phred - that means you :)

My favorite wedding poem, BTW. For AK and the Mrs. By that fasciest SOB Ezra Pound

Ezra Pound


Pound translated Japanese versions of the poems of the Chinese poet Li Po.


The River-Merchant's Wife

While my hair was still cut straight across my forehead
I played about the front gate, pulling flowers.
You came by on bamboo stilts, playing horse,
You walked about my seat, playing with blue plums.
And we went on living in the village of Chokan:
Two small people, without dislike or suspicion.
At fourteen I married My Lord you.
I never laughed, being bashful.
Lowering my head, I looked at the wall.
Called to, a thousand times, I never looked back.


At fifteen I stopped scowling,
I desired my dust to be mingled with yours
Forever and forever and forever.
Why should I climb the look out?


At sixteen you departed,
You went into far Ku-to-en, by the river of swirling eddies,
And you have been gone five months.
The monkeys make sorrowful noise overhead.


You dragged your feet when you went out.
By the gate now, the moss is grown, the different mosses,
Too deep to clear them away!
The leaves fall early this autumn, in wind.
The paired butterflies are already yellow with August
Over the grass in the West garden;
They hurt me. I grow older.
If you are coming down through the narrows of the river Kiang,
Please let me know beforehand,
And I will come out to meet you
As far as Cho-fu-Sa."


Wes


Here's the video of that game when Kobe got the MVP chant in Beantown. Listen to all the cheers in Boston after each basket by Kobe. Best of all was listening to homer Heinsohn begrudgingly giving Kobe his props. He can't even whine about the refs...oops..I take that back even Tommy couldn't resist whining after one sweet move by Kobe.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOjiNwVVfFg

LRob

Goldrodd - interesting scenario but why would Charlotte trade away the starting center they just acquired for Luke, Sasha and DJ? And, do we really need a legit starting center when we have Drew and Pau?

Interesting...I enjoyed the podcast too.

I was wondering, given this is the case with them selling all their tickets - at what point investing money in the players becomes counter productive.If the lakers go deep into the the luxury tax every year, are competitive, and win multiple titles over the next six years say...is there a place where the profit can actually just totally maximised? They obviously cannot increase their income from selling more tickets (which is why they raise prices I guess),my guess is they couldn't get much more money from TV companies etc becasue they already play about the maximum amount of nationally televised game any team is going to.I guess the extra money from more playoff games if you are good but as I've said if they are making the finals or conference finals every year then thats about peaking out as well (in fact you might be better off to be a bit worse and stretch out the series a few more games)

So how do the lakers increase their profits to cover the expenses of being over the cap and the luxury tax?

It must come mainly from global revenue and selling T shirts and stuff to NEW laker fans? but there must be some kind of limit for that too.That said it can become counter productive if you start peeing off your existing fans (and players) by looking like you are not trying to win or by making the team worse (lose Ariza and Odom and don't make up for them at all) lose conference finals next year...

The other thing that is interesting is if you have a title run (or a good team how long a team can milk it...how many new kings fans are loyal now from the webber era? Did the bulls shoot themselves in the foot by being SO bad for so long after the dynasty? I mean even if they could have jsut had a sniff of the playoffs for those years would they have been way better off in terms of keeping casual/international fans? some would have come back in Ben Gordon's first season but many would have found a new team...

I love being a Lakers fan.

AK, Finally, you got hooked, well this time it's the other woman that went wrong. lol! Now that you are married, you may be kinder, gentler and cooler head AK, or else we will appeal to Mrs. AK & you'll sleep in an air mattress as punishment.

LakerTom,

"So let’s irritate Edwin’s bowels and bolt into the future 10 years"

~~Even when I'm traveling, I read your halucinations for the next hundred years. I'm potty trained with great feeling due to Fiber One 57% highest Fiber among cereals, you better take one too, I guessed that is the very reason why you can't wait for the start of '09 season,there is gridlock in your system so you fast forward to '19, are we still alive by that time?

let's get Rubio in the next 2 years, that is what he has been waiting, the Gasol-Rubio tandem.

Wes,


I loved the poem. Beautiful.


What do we play for? RINGS!!!


Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.


GO LAKERS!!!

Pig,


I, too, love being a Lakers fan.


What do we play for? RINGS!!!


Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.


GO LAKERS!!!

Jon K -
Haha, yeah I vaguely remember you talking about that horrible experience a while back. Something about them blaring awful music... while the game was playing? Ugh. What the hell are these teams thinking?


Thirty2 -
Gracias senor.


justa -
Haha, hang in there brother. We're all in that Laker withdrawal boat with you. Land can be seen on the horizon though!

about this "repost" I believe from LakerTom....
"And the domination is not going to be limited to the defensive end. The Lakers are going to lead the league in points in the paint scored and least points in the paint allowed. They are also going to lead the league in points differential. Defensively, the only hole the Lakers have left is the need for a super fast and quick point guard who can run step for step with the quick point guards that kill the Lakers. It would be great if we could get a great man-to-man defender like UCLA’s Darren Collison.


Tom

Posted by: LakerTom | September 04, 2009 at 05:44 PM"


Thank the Heavens for not suggesting Nate Robinson.....I'm not sure of his current situation and I don't care.

At a time like this at the middle of an off season, we have no subject matter to digest: the inflamed finger of Pau, the underachieving knee of Sasha, the swell head of Farmar or the new Thriller gig who turned into sweet nothings of Dion's song. On the southern corridor hurricanes are lurking and in the brush, firestorms are always a threat. As it is everyone has to be alert. However, in the blog including BK we have a lazy indian summer. He stopped updating after 8pm. On a daily basis, there are lot of court jesters attempting to attract discussions but no one could imitate the best mind of them all, Mike T. Well, Lakertom has the gravitas of all the agreeable dudes, he is the Pied Piper of Lakerholics but just too nice in comparison to the Man genius. How do you compare a pit bull from a parrot? That's pale in comparison isn't it? both could be annoying and enjoyable, you should be careful in petting the former while the latter, you can treat his parroting like a grain of sand in the sands of time.

1st day of college football! I'm not a huge watcher of college football on TV, but I'm so close to the Notre Dame campus that It's tailgating, drunks and green leprechauns on every corner.


Let it roll.

And I'm hoping that this Gafney guy can be the athletic replacement for Ariza. Because I've been watching replays of the finals and Ariza's speed and athleticism were a huge part of winning it all. I hear all this talk about Gafney's work ethic, well I want to see it now. And we do have that extra roster spot just incase a Robert Redford "Natural" type happens along. Could this be Gafney?


Maybe


Wes

dave m,

>>> Who knows, maybe PJ will employ an assistant coach just for Fish, Farmar and Shannon. They could operate as their own special elite unit - 5 minute rotations each, wired for sound and video... go, go, go!

Thanks for the props. I like your special elite unit concept. Go Lakers!

"with Gasol, Bynum and Odom, we should have the rebounding"

We did have the rebounding that already has happened. Wed

"1-Kobe, 2-Magic, 3-Kareem, 4-Bynum, 5-West, 6-Gasol, 7-Artest, 8-Baylor, 9-Wilt, 10-Odom"

Now this is where you and I split up Laker Tom. Bynum over the logo and Wilt even if it is Lakerwise? Now that is funny and is funnier not to mention laughable as Gasol and Artest over Wilt and putting Odom ahead of James Worthy.

Mark my words and into my crystal ball Bynum ain't getting ahead of the logo. Will he be good absolutely unfortunately for both our sakes I don't see Bynum the same way you do.

Here's still my view of Bynum:

Mr. Big Mouth who complained about his minutes in the playoffs, got his mouth shut up by Kobe in Game 3 of the Western Conference Finals, couldn't hold Yao's/Kenyon Martin's/Dwight's teacup, played offense with little defense even with the foul trouble situation, didn't bother to rebound, and bragged about how he was going to shut down centers only to ride the pine and had Kobe/Gasol/Odom/Ariza/Fisher hand him his title and his role being reduced to nothing more than a better offensive version of DJ Mbenga. An Airhead who believes he is Shaq who can make free throws LOL. He can only dream of that.

Don't know if anyone's watching U.S. Open but there's a great match going on between Djokovic and virtual unknown, American Jesse Witten who's never won a tour event (I don't believe).

I love being a Lakers fan.

Posted by: Pig | September 04, 2009 at 08:55 PM

+1....and I'll add that I love being a Sun Devil, too.

=)

BK,

You make an excellent point that some might overlook: importance of accurate predictability of their income. Except for the depth of a season's-end playoff run, the Lakers pretty much know exactly what their inflow of cash will be before the season opener tipoffs. That is a huge planning advantage. Lakers can spend heavily up front and consider any playoff receipts as pure profit.


Yes, being a Lakers fan has huge advantages. Almost like the Yankees.


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