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Good Morning Everyone....

I set myself a goal every year to read at least 10 books in 12 months...I made it last year..I will read his book....

Jon k...I read your posts about Lebron on the last thread...your spot on...It sounds like i live in Cleveland...Everything NBA over here is Lebron..People get a snippet of a Dunk and think this guy is Michael Jordan all over..they have no idea...Im not sure if its just me but i often find myself fighting with other guys over Basketball facts because this generation of fans are being force fed with highlight reels of fast break plays and dunks..Little do they know that when you win a title you get a ring and thats what we play for...Right?.....

I went to a AFL game last week..We went past a friends apartment first for some beers before heading over the road for the game..A guy who was there had a Nuggets hat on...I said to him "The Nuggets had a good season,what did you think of the year"?..He replies "let me guess your a Lakers fan"?..I just smiled...Now this is how i stopped talking to this bloke to avoid a punch up before we even got to our game..And mind you he was around 6,1....Im 5,9...

He said...When its all said and done Lebron and Melo will have achieved more than Jordan,Kobe and Magic....

Lets just say they didnt watch the AFL game with us once we got to the stadium..And after the game they went to a different bar than we did..

I go through this every year..I must live in Cleveland...

I think it should be very fitting that I am the first one to post. Fish is not the most talented player. He's probably one of the least skilled starting point guard in the league, but he can play. He is battle tested.

Orlando, Spurs, Cavs and Celtics are ALL big time threats to the Lakers chances of a Repeat.

ORLANDO: Orlando will be much improved. There seems to be some debate over who's better between Vince and Hedo. I think it's Vince, but let's assume it's a wash. Either way, Orlando will basically be adding an all-star PG in Jameer to their finals team. Jameer killed the Lakers in both games he was healthy last season. He has supreme confidence when he is matched up against Fish (as does most good PG's). Even if you believe that Hedo is better than Vince, the addition of Vince, Jameer, Bass, and Ryan Anderson clearly outweigh the loss of Lee and Hedo. Add the inevitable improvement of a young Dwight to the mix, and Orlando will be scary next season.

CAVS: The 66 win Cavs didn't give up anything to acquire Shaq. Big Z is still on the team, which will give Mike Brown the luxury of limiting the minutes of both aging (but still effective) big men in the regular season. They also added quality wing men in Anthony Parker and Jamario Moon. I do not think the Cavs will surpass the 66 wins of last season, but they will be much more dangerous come playoff time. However, amongst the challengers to the Laker crown, the Cavs scare me the least, not because of the addition of Shaq, but because of Mike Brown's inability to make solid adjustments in the playoffs.

SPURS: Poppovich made Roger Mason look like an all-star during stretches last season. It's scary to think what Pop will do for Jefferson's game. McDysse is replacing Matt Bonner, which is a huge upgrade. They will also be adding an all-star SG next season - Ginobli. The Spurs are a legit threat to our repeat.

CELTICS: Most teams cannot matchup against the Lakers big men. The Celtics are not one of those teams. A healthy KG, Wallace, Perkins and Daivs are a formidable matchup against Gasol, Lamar, Bynum, and Powell. I hate to say this but the Celts big men might even have the advantage over the Lakers' bigs. Add the ginormous advantage the Celts have at PG, and you have a team that matches up well with the Lakers at EVERY position (except SG) down to the bench. The worst part about it is, based on interviews, the Celtic players seem to truly believe that they are better than the Lakers. If the Celts and Lakers meet in the finals, the health and effectiveness of KG and Bynum will be the deciding factor.

DF= Heart, Leadership, Heroics and Championships.

What else should we ask of him?

Do I hear wedding bells? Congrats AK.

Derek Fisher is the man. Period.

A natural leader.

Derek Fisher = Winner.

LeBron James = Loser.

What do we play for? RINGS!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.



Don't believe the hype.

LeBron James is a tremendous athlete, but the fact that people are comparing him AT THIS STAGE OF HIS CAREER with Michael Jordan should cause any person with any sense of scope, experience and intelligence to have the jaw drop agasp in utter disbelief.

The fact that so many so-called "experts" have been seduced by this endless stream of propaganda simply amazes me.

He's never won a ring. He's not in the top twenty of any of the basic stats (points, rebounds, assists, steals, blocks).

Declaring that he's the "best ever" is pure madness.

What do we play for? RINGS!!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.


Getting closer.

See Laker preseason schedule;

Exhibition games for the defending NBA Champion Los Angeles Lakers begin in less than a month.

The Lakers will play eight warm-up games before the start of the 2009-10 NBA regular season, beginning Oct. 7 against the Golden State Warriors at Honda Center in Anaheim.

The Warriors and Lakers will play three times in October. The Lakers will face the Denver Nuggets twice.

There will be games at six venues, including Las Vegas, San Diego and Ontario. The Lakers will play two games at Honda Center, two at Staples Center, one at The Forum, their longtime home, and one game each at the Thomas & Mack Center in Las Vegas, the San Diego Sports Arena and Citizens Business Bank Arena in Ontario.

The champs' lone appearance in Inland Southern California is set for Oct. 20 when they will play the Warriors at 7 p.m. at the Ontario venue.

For ticket information, please call 1-800-4-NBA-TIX or visit

The Lakers complete exhibition schedule:

** Oct. 7: Golden State Warriors, 7 p.m., Honda Center, Anaheim

** Oct. 9: Golden State Warriors, 7 p.m., The Forum, Inglewood

** Oct. 15: Sacramento Kings, 7 p.m., Thomas & Mack Center, Las Vegas

** Oct. 17: Charlotte Bobcats, 7:30 p.m., Staples Center, Los Angeles

** Oct. 18: vs. Clippers or Utah Jazz, 7:30 p.m., Staples Center

** Oct. 20: vs. Golden State Warriors, 7 p.m., Citizens Business Bank Arena, Ontario

** Oct. 22: vs. Denver Nuggets, 7:30 p.m., Honda Center, Anaheim

** Oct. 23: vs. Denver Nuggets, 7:30 p.m., Sports Arena, San Diego

Things of interest.

Los Angeles Lakers Team Report
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In Ron Artest's world, it seems that there is never a slow day.
Artest's decision to leave the Houston Rockets, who weren't fully committed to bringing him back, and join the Lakers has created a lot of debate this summer. Will Artest be a distraction for a championship team that had great chemistry with Kobe Bryant's buddy Trevor Ariza, who bolted for Houston? Or does Artest still have that tenacious mentality, physical power and all-around skills that will make the Lakers even more threatening in their title defense?

Artest has had a lot to say about everything this summer via Twitter. He is clearly excited about being a Laker, but one of Artest's comments there shows he's still a little peeved about not being a Rocket.

"Houston did me dirty," declared Artest, who vowed to play overwhelming defense when the Lakers and Rockets first meet up in the coming season.

About joining the defending champions, Artest stated: "We are the most hated team on the planet. This is going to be fun."


—F Lamar Odom, who worried more than one Lakers fan for more than a few days this offseason before re-signing, checked in with an amusing interview posted on the Lakers' Web site. Odom revealed he took some time off but has returned to workouts with some unorthodox tactics such as long-distance biking along the Los Angeles beach cities and boxing training.

—The Lakers will put their regular-season tickets on sale Oct. 3 at 10 a.m. Pacific time via Ticketmaster outlets. The Lakers' schedule is again heavy with home games early on, with 12 of the 16 games in November set at home.

QUOTE TO NOTE: "That team has a chance to win several NBA championships." — Former Lakers assistant coach Kurt Rambis, who left to become head coach for the Minnesota Timberwolves.



—G Jordan Farmar said at a clinic he conducted in Singapore that he is eager to become a starting point guard in the NBA, although he acknowledged Derek Fisher seems likely to retain that role for the Lakers in the coming season.

—F Pau Gasol's injured left index finger has healed well, according to Lakers trainer Gary Vitti, who visited Gasol in Spain in late August. Gasol was hurt while preparing to represent Spain in the European Championships.

—G Sasha Vujacic posted to his Web site that his release from the Slovenian national team came about because he refused to play without getting proper medical evaluation and was penalized for it.


—F Pau Gasol (broken left index finger) had surgery on Aug. 10 but is expected to be a full strength for the season.

—G Kobe Bryant (right pinky finger) reiterated that he will not undergo surgery this summer because he has grown accustomed to the looseness in his damaged shooting hand.


Chinemelu Eloni, C, 6-10, Texas A&M (second round) — The Lakers had him rated as the 34th-best player in the draft and landed him at No. 59. They like his length and work ethic.

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