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Jim Murray on Chick Hearn

With the relative news vacuum that is August in the NBA, there are opportunities to reflect on any number of things unrelated with the day to day of wins and losses in pursuit of a Larry O'Brien. Many around the NBA world spent Friday afternoon celebrating the incredible career of Magic Johnson, both his impact on the court as a player and off it as a businessman and a symbol of the possibilities of living with HIV. (So successful is Johnson at the latter that it's easy to forget he ever contracted the virus.)

I remember watching Magic and the Showtime Lakers, and I remember when he retired. What I don't remember, though (mostly for lack of corporal existence rather than razor sharp memory), are the days when nobody Chick Hearn particularly cared about the NBA and the league lived far deeper in the shadows of American sports. No doubt incredible talents like Magic, Bird and Jordan helped change that, but they owed a debt to a guy who advanced the game without ever wearing a uniform.  In this 1986 column, legendary columnist Jim Murray commemorates the day Chick Hearn received a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame, noting what we knew about the modern NBA is thanks in large part to the legendary voice of the Lakers:

"...Basketball was a tough sell when Francis Hearn came along. I remember in the late winter of '61 going down to the Sports Arena where they were staging a playoff game between the then-St. Louis Hawks and the newly arrived--from Minneapolis--Los Angeles Lakers. It was a Sunday afternoon, and they used to click off the attendance on a screen high above the arena floor. It read 2,800 that day as the teams took the floor. Now, mind you, this was a playoff game. The division final. But not only were there few customers, there were hardly any other journalists covering games in those days... Any sport needs a lively nomenclature, word pictures that go into the language. Simple terms like bases loaded, circus catch, circuit clout, screwball and squeeze play all served to dramatize the grand old game of baseball that even became the national pastime, thanks to the fertile mind of some chronicler of press row....

Ted Husing took football out of its dock-fight image and invented secondaries, even tertiaries for its defensive postures, and talked of whole hosts of tacklers and coffin corner kicks until the game today is so full of colorful allusions it is almost liturgical in scope. Chick Hearn did the same things for pro basketball, which had almost no language of its own when he came along. No more would division playoff games be played before 2,800 spectators after Chick hit the scene. They became the hardest tickets in town once Chick was out in front of the tent..."

He was the ultimate salesman, Murray writes, for a game that desperately needed one.  The extent of Chick-isms now part of common basketball vocabulary is spectacular.  (Click here to get a feel.)

As fans we spend a lot of time playing the "What If?" game.  What if the Lakers had come out on the wrong end of the coin flip that eventually brought Magic to LA?  What if the Blazers had drafted Michael Jordan instead of Sam Bowie? What if the Lakers had drafted Corey Benjamin instead of Sam Jacobson back in '98? Okay, maybe not that one. But you get the point.

What if the Lakers had hired someone else, even someone perfectly competent, to broadcast their games instead of Chick? What would have changed?

The NBA could very well have broken out behind the strength of another outstanding broadcaster, player, or iconic moment, or some combination of the three. Or maybe not. History is filled with turn-on-a-dime moments and individuals that shape the future in ways others wouldn't have been able to replicate. Maybe the NBA gains popularity but looks different today in the process.  It's impossible to know.  But I don't think anyone in the NBA's 5th Avenue offices would be willing to hop in a time machine and trade Chick for whatever might be behind door number one.

We'll probably talk about all this again around Chick's birthday, but that's not until late November and who wants to wait that long?

BK

 
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No story to read when I clicked the link. Damn! Because that would be the best talking about the best. Eh, I'm sure I read it back in the day anyway. That would be a slaaaaam dunk!

Chick is the greatest. He and Vin Scully embody the very nature of their respective sports, particularly in the city they announced for. Chick presented the personality, speed, the competition, and the dramatic, almost operatic flair of basketball, just by the way he announced. I'd always wonder if it was the basketball that did that, or the shiny varish of Chick's descriptions of the action that conveyed the moment. You could feel the vibe of the crowd, the mood of the players, and the competiveness of the game in his voice.

Vin's voice sounds like a hot summer day in the shade, watching the Dodgers with a Dodger dog in one hand, and a cold beer in the other. The cadence of his voice: perfect. Even if someone hits a grand slam homer, he always describes it perfectly, without overshadowing the play.

We are lucky to have such greats in our city. However, as the Murray article implies with Chick, their effect on their game is greater than just our city. They deliver the game to the world, one play at a time.

http://tinyurl.com/knqsnb

I came across this video. Classic Chick Hearn. Capped with a vintage Magic shot.

These are also my memories of Mychal Thompson as a player. I heard at one time he was good. It just wasn't with the Lakers, I guess. Terrible.

Go Lakers!

You read an article like that and wonder why we have the crap-tastic writers we have on the Times staff today.

Jim Murray is probably rolling over in his grave.

LA Lakers, 2009 NBA Champions

I suggest we hang a jersey with Chick Hearns name on it and as a number use an old stlye microphone.

BK,

Great reprint from one of my favorite LA Times writers about the world’s greatest basketball announcer. Makes me pine for the days when the Times had more great writers than just the KamBros. LA has been blessed to have both Chick Hearn and Vin Scully. How else do you explain an LA kid who rooted for the 76ers and Yankees still turning on the radio just to listen to Chick or Vin?

Tom

with chick on the broadcast you almost didn't need a tv... he would describe the game in detail, in real time, with real emotion as if you were courtside watching the game.... the radio was the tv... and the tv was like HD when chick was calling it.... i'm sure i'm not alone in muting the tv when it was a national game and turning on the radio just to hear chick's voice instead of the amateurs they assigned to call the game that day....

in celebrating magic's 50th birthday, i went on youtube to watch footage and all of the clips had chick announcing the games.... the lakers and chick hearn were a perfect match made in basketball heaven.....

I remember back during showtime when I worked a graveyard shift. I would cook dinner as my wife worked till 6:00 pm every day. I would have my TV as loud as possible as I cooked dinner. I couldn't see the TV from the kitchen, but Chick described every play and I could visualize the play frame by frame in my head. He was the master at what he did. I still see the plays in my head when I think of Chick Hearn.

I suggest we hang a jersey with Chick Hearns name on it and as a number use an old stlye microphone.

Posted by: JustaLakerFan | August 17, 2009 at 12:41 PM
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Wow I wonder why they haven't thought of that idea....HEY WAIT!! I see what you did there!

I love Magic, but he wouldn't have been nearly as entertaining as he was without Chicky-baby around to describe the action!

HBMatt,

Good point on Jim Murray. He did his job without being either a homer or a 'hater' (I hate that term, but could think of nothing better to describe the opinion-mongerers we have in Simers and Plaschke.


#4


I still miss Jim Murray too!

Chick was the kobe of broadcasting. We will never forget you chick.

Go Lakers

One off the topic question:

Why is Kevin Garnett's 2009-10 pay lesser than the previous year (2008-09). ESPN shows he got $24,751,934 in 2008-09, but will "only" get 16,417,044 for 2009-10. Is this because his is a front-loaded contract, or is it that the 2009-10 pay shown does not include the bonuses or incentives?

I have usually seen front-loaded contracts in baseball (A-Rod's 10-yr 300 mil contract is heavily front loaded). Does this practice there in NBA as well??

How refreshing to read a piece by Jim Murray. I miss his presence like I miss Chick. As for time continuum stuff, I'm not even gonna go there, at least not as regards Chick. Driving home from work, listening to Chick's voice, left to right on my radio dial, was sanctuary.

Not a season goes by that I don't miss Chick Hearn. His "word's-eye view" was a really special talent. By way of compairson, try listening to Mike Tirico call a game for ESPN radio - you have no idea what's going on out there on the court. They should have just folded the NBA when Chick died.

Old school laker fans love Chick as much as they do Magic, Buss, or anything else remotely connected to showtime. The thing with Chick and Magic is, they were showtime. Being a '71 baby it was the tender age of 9 when I first told my mom to please stop talking while we were driving in the car listening to the game. Now I have a 10 year old daughter of my own and I can honestly say I blame her disinterest in the Lakers and weird infatuation with hannah montanna and the freakin jonas brothas as a missing chick fallout. You didn't need a tv back then! In fact it was just as good by radio as it was on tv because you could hear the excitement and knowledge in his voice. He and Stu used to point out who kids should watch if they want to learn how to dribble, or pass, or shoot properly. He even seemed unbiased at times because sometimes when the Lakers lost big games, he seemed composed and objective. Plus the whole never missing work thing, look up true professional in wikipedia and there he is. Chick Hearns folks, please treasure those old you tube clips because that was unarguably the best of times. Without Chick there is no showtime.

BK,


A real nice thread. Thanks.


Yeah, Chick was one of a kind. So was Jim Murray. I grew up listening to Chick and reading Jim Murray from the days of elementary school.


Sometimes I struggle with their departure, simply because I wonder if anyone will ever pick up their mantle. Chick was so good and having to compare that experience to say... listening to Mark Jackson on ESPN is like comparing Beethoven's 9th Symphony to nails on chalkboard while parrots are thrown repeatedly at a while. It's just awful.


I find the mantle carried by Jim Murray to more accessible, yet I am frustrated that other journalists are able to step up. It seems this is the case not because there aren't capable writers out there--there are--it's just that these writers have ZERO life experience. They graduate with a journalism degree. They get a job. They immerse themselves in their myopic existence.


Everything about Jim Murray's writings SCREAM of life experience. He CONSTANTLY (and usually poetically) contextualizes sports within a larger framework of life and history to the point where it becomes almost, well, spiritual. (Howard Cossell also had this knack for the dramatic, and it was brilliant.)


If I was a journalist today, I'd graduate and then I'd walk the Earth for a few years, working in diners, building railroads... experiencing the salt of the Earth.


Then I'd return to sports journalism.


For too many of these journalists, they don't understand the language of the common man. They don't understand what it is to have to almost kill to survive, and thus their words lack potency and wisdom.


And that's what we here in the world of sports fanaticism crave.


Someone of Jim Murray's wisdom and brilliance to connect with the inner fire that vicariously connect with through the spirit of competition as manifested through sports.


Jim and Chick. You are both dearly missed.


What do we play for? RINGS!!!!


Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.


GO LAKERS!!!!

HBMatt,


"Jim Murray is probably rolling over in his grave."


Take out the word "probably" and I agree with you.


What do we play for? RINGS!!!!


Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.


GO LAKERS!!!

Jim Murray and Chick Hearn belonged to the best of times in print and broadcasting media. They are dedicated with their work and continue improving until the end of their life. Although I believed there are budding youngsters or college grads out there who could take the shoes of another Jim or Chick. Jeannie Buss has tried only few Laker announcers such as Sutherland and Myers, it leaves a lot to be desired. If you noticed the dealings of these icons with the public, they focus on the story and its peripherals, less use of "I" but more on the 3rd person and you. Today, it is the worst of times, more emphasis on ratings and ticks, on LA sports radio after Laker games you will hear a lots of "I's", sometimes the caller has not said anything yet got scolded for not knowing much about the subject matter!

eggs are coolin', butter's gettin' hard, the jello's jigglin'...loved the game, loved the players, and if the lakers went into sloppy joe mode, he'd call it.

***** SORRY FOLKS BUT THIS IS THE BEST I COULD DO ********

THIS ONES FOR CHICK

A thousand announcers have come and gone but few have made a mark
Some think the broadcasts all about them, some think it’s just a lark
But there was one and only one who all Laker Fans could turn
I don’t even have to say the name, you know it was Chick Hearn
Chick made the Laker Legacy what it’s grown to today
He bought a sport from also ran to the 2nd biggest in the USA
He gave a spirt to a team that could never get over the hump
He gave them a fighting spirit & they gave the Celtics a thump
He imbued the team with pride & made them believe they could
Until one day they began to believe they actually could be good
No Chick was no homer he called the game fair and square
And he never talked down to the audience who listened out there.
Does this mean Chick was wishy washy, man are you insane
He made the blind think the game they could see & they no longer needed a cane
The man had class and pretty fast that class spread to the team
So when they won he made it fun and effortless it seemed
And though no longer with us, the fire that he lit still burns
The greatest of greats, theirs no debate, God bless you Chick Hearn

"Every basketball player signing a million-dollar contract should take off his hat stepping across that slice of sidewalk on Hollywood Boulevard they dedicated to Chick Hearn Wednesday. It's a shrine of their biz if not show biz."

Great stuff, Jim Murry.

A replay and use of Chick's putting game away at end of game.

http://tinyurl.com/55sft9

Kobefan in Cupertino,

KG`s salary, these past two seasons, was what remained from his last contract with Minn.

When he became a Celtic, he also signed a 3-year contract extension, that finally kicks in this coming season. That one pays him $16.4M...$18.8M...$21.2M.

Best Chick-ism ever : BLOWS THE LAYUP!!!

LONG LIVE CHICK !

I miss him too much to explain, there will never be another even close to his greatness...I am just glad I got to listen to him all those years....he even read a note over the air from me to my wife when I went to a game and she had to stay home...still have that on VHS tape...

Chick was another reason to dig the Lakers so much...what a bonus to have him as our announcer all those years...

simply the greatest...

Is it October yet?

AS ALWAYS, AS EVER, YET ANOTHER GREAT DAY (AND CHAMPIONSHIP SEASON) TO BE A LAKER FAN !!!

GO LAKERS !!!

One of the things I admired most about Chick was that he always had a healthy dose of respect for the opposition and was quite objective in his analysis. He was pure class. Now contrast that with all the homer announcers around the league who routinely spout off their over-the-top biased views.

After reading Bill Simmons' article on the US-Mexico soccer game, I have to express my disgust at the complete lack of sportsmanship and class among Mexican soccer fans at the game. Throwing beer bottles and bags of urine at the US players? Really? And let's not try to excuse this kind of behavior by pointing to their passion for the game. Fans can be passionate about their team and country without resorting to such classless behavior.

I remember listing to Chick instead of music while going back n forth from SD and only now do I realize just how Priceless those moments have become. I mean, no matter what... how many kids can say they were running a 68 bug up n down the 405 actually LISTENING to The Master callin Laker Games?? Only those out here cuz wasnt no internet back then so no streaming lol Damn.. I never Thunk I was hearing History in the making.. I just was a stoned zit faced kid driving from school to home for the obvious money saving perks.. laundry,food, ect ect.. Wow.. Damn.. I got Old Quick... lol thanks for the reality check BK

Mamba,

Excellent job. You are the poet laureate of the blog. Chick will never be replaced but maybe Joel will be. I would even go for Spero doing simulcasts with Stu and Michael. That would be cool.

Tom

Yes, Mamba24 is the Jim Murray of the Lakers Blog.

Chick will always be the legend that changed the game from what it was, to what it is today.

i loved listening to Chick as much as i loved watching Showtime Basketball. nothing could ever describe what Chick was or who he was unless you were there listening to him every night. what luck to have been able to hear him call agame for so many years.

Just stopped by to feel the Laker vibe and am so happy I did.

I was born in '59 and am a South Bay LA native. I grew up listening to the two greatest sports announcers in history, Chick and Vinny. Even as a young kid I knew they were special and that I was really lucky to be able to hear two absolute masters of their craft. We still have Vinny for a while yet, and I cherish every game I hear him call.

But as a lifelong basketball player as well as Laker fan, Chick is somehow even more special to me.

I have so many memories... remember when he and Johnny Most called a game together? We sat there laughing at Most get dominated by Chick (albeit in a really nice, friendly and respectful way). I can still remember listening to Chick call games on my old transistor radio when I was a kid because my mom wanted to watch a show on our black and white TV. Remember when he welched on buying everyone in the Forum dinner?

And the funeral... apart from JFK, I can't recall seeing LA TV coverage like that... I remember being so proud of Rick Fox, wearing his warmups as if they were a military dress uniform... I remember wondering WTF about Shaq not being there.

I stand up and scream every time they show Chick (or Marge) on the scoreboard at Staples, because he is truly one of my Laker heroes. In my book they can't do enough to keep him in the fan's memory, but for me, he will always be in my heart.

Thanks K Bros for the article from Jim Murray, and here's to another Banner hoisted for "Your World Champion Los Angeles Lakers."

APPRECIATING GREATNESS…

All of the nostalgia and fond remembrances of Magic Johnson and Chick Hearn and what they meant to pro basketball and our beloved Lakers in particular just reminds me how important it is for all of us to truly enjoy greatness while it is here for unfortunately it will be gone far too soon.

As Lakers fans, we have been surrounded with greatness for decades. After all, this is the franchise of George Mikan, Jerry West, Gail Goodrich, Elgin Baylor, Wilt Chamberlain, Jamal Wilkes, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, James Worthy, Shaquille O’Neal, and Magic Johnson. It is the franchise that is the 2009 NBA Champions and odds-on favorite to repeat again in 2010. It is the franchise that currently has the greatest owner and greatest coach in NBA history and greatest player on the planet.

So when the ball goes up this October, put away your iPhone, unplug your iPod, and pay attention because you are going to see greatness in its prime. Appreciate that Jerry Buss has once again shown why he is the greatest owner in professional sports because all too soon another Buss will take over. Appreciate that Phil Jackson has proven he is the greatest coach in NBA history because each season could be his last as an NBA coach. And appreciate that Kobe Bryant has grown into the great player we all hoped and prayed for because each season he plays inevitably brings us closer to the day when he hangs up his sneakers for good. One thing you learn as you get older is that time conquers all.

Most importantly, appreciate this championship team because they truly have a chance to become one of the greatest teams in Lakers as well as NBA history. Appreciate that we have four potential all-stars in Kobe Byrant, Pau Gasol, Andrew Bynum, and Ron Artest. Appreciate that we have a unbelievably versatile player like Lamar Odom who should have a real chance at winning 6th Man of the Year. Appreciate that we have tested championship leaders and clutch shooters like Derek Fisher, who may be the perfect Lakers coach down the road. Appreciate that we have a great general manager in Mitch Kupchak, who just keeps adding weapon after weapon to the team’s basketball arsenal.

Be ready to be shocked and awed at how great Andrew Bynum and Ron Artest are going to play next year and how formidable and dominant they will make the Lakers over the rest of the NBA. Be ready to cheer high BB IQ plays by Luke, back-to-back 3’s by Sasha, streaking steals and fast breaks by Jordan, and stupendous blocks and dunks by Shannon. And don’t be too surprised when Adam Morrison finally shows off that 3-point prowess and confidence he once displayed at Gonzaga. This is a team that could possible win over 70 games next year and maybe even break the Bulls’ record.

Finally, appreciate this great dynamic blogging community that AK and BK have built where we can cheer our team, critique their performances, and share our opinions on the Lakers and anything else that strikes our fancy (excluding politics, of course). I genuinely believe that I enjoyed this year’s championship more than any of the other LA titles because of the LA Times Lakers Blog, AK and BK’s great writing and wit, and the joy of sharing the spills and thrills of the season with my blog friends.

My name is Tom and I am a Lakerholic. My message: Get ready to appreciate Greatness.

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Tom


complex_brotha,

>>> I remember listing to Chick instead of music while going back n forth from SD and only
>>> now do I realize just how Priceless those moments have become. I mean, no matter what...
>>> how many kids can say they were running a 68 bug up n down the 405 actually LISTENING
>>> to The Master callin Laker Games?? Only those out here cuz wasnt no internet back then so
>>> no streaming lol Damn.. I never Thunk I was hearing History in the making.. I just was a
>>> stoned zit faced kid driving from school to home for the obvious money saving perks..
>>> laundry,food, ect ect.. Wow.. Damn.. I got Old Quick... lol thanks for the reality check BK

LOL, c_b. Your post brought back so many memories for me. I grew up in SoCal but moved to San Diego to live with my parents after my son turned one so that my wife could quit her job and spend time with him as a baby. My wife and I had a red VW Beetle and every Friday night, we would put down the back seat, setup the portacrib, and take off to LA on the 405 where I would open the gym at my old high school and play ball with all my buds. And nothing made the night better than a good smoke, Chick calling out a Lakers game on the radio, and a whole weekend of playing basketball.

Yeah, that was pretty dang cool.

Tom

A (repeated) reminder to readers not to post under multiple different handles. Pick one and stick with it. Or at the very least, don't post under a different name with nearly every new comment.

AK

Laker Tom,


"My message: Get ready to appreciate Greatness."


MY message: Get ready to appreciate THE Greatness.


Good times ahead.


What do we play for? RINGS!!!!


Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.


GO LAKERS!!!!

What if the Lakers had drafted (through Toronto) Tayshaun Prince instead of Kareem Rush? Many commentators had Prince going to the Lakers. If he had, the Lakers may very well have won it all in 2004 and beyond.

Chick will never be replaced, But WHY does the current announcing have to be SOOOO BAD? Joel Myers and Stu Lance ??? Really??? Is this the BEST we can do??? Were the World Champion Lakers for Friggin sakes, have a talent contest like we do for the Laker girls and find a couple of good exciting play by play announcers for the next decade of Lakers dominance.

I say Sign Bruce Bowen for 800K per year in the 14th roster spot for the 09/10 season. it's a cheap move, he would play for that since he's getting 2 million from the Bucks who waived him, He's old but can still defend good players and hit the three (was 03/04/05/06/07/08 1st team defense), He's better on D than Walton ; ) , and he would be good insurance just in case Artest flips out and we have to cut him loose. We just cut Sun Yue for the same amount so we can afford him. He has finals experience, he's 6'7" 210 lbs. He's available.

West steals the ball. Picked his pocket and left him nothing but change. Passes the ball to Goodrich. Gail dribbles the ball right to left across your radio dial. Behind the back to Harrison. Harrison blows another layup! Wilt gets the rebound. Back to an open West. West head fakes him into the popcorn machine and hits the 20 footer. Left pistol pete covered in butter! That about does it. The doors closed. The lights out. The eggs are cooling. The butters getting hard and the jello is jiggling!

Have you seen this dunking exhibition of Guy Dupay here in LA?

http://bit.ly/X4qKB

http://tinyurl.com/m2sykp

scary friendly...

Watching the Rogers Cup final on Sunday, I heard the announcer (don't know who it was) saying a couple of times, "and Del Potro hits a frozen rope". I was waiting for him to thank Chick Hearn for that one, but the thanks never came. Chick so successfully exported some of his expressions beyond the Lakers and beyond basketball that the importers don't realize there actually was an author.

R.I.P. Chick

EJK,
"Throwing beer bottles and bags of urine at the US players?"

Unfortunately, that's fairly routine when playing against Mexico or in the Central American countries.

I suggest we hang a jersey with Chick Hearns name on it and as a number use an old stlye microphone. Posted by: JustaLakerFan | August 17, 2009 at 12:41 PM

Do I have to say it JustA?... OUT FREAKING STANDING MAN.
you should patent or copyright that or something man. That is outstanding!!!

So when the ball goes up this October, put away your iPhone, unplug your iPod, and pay attention because you are going to see greatness in its prime. Appreciate that Jerry Buss has once again shown why he is the greatest owner in professional sports because all too soon another Buss will take over. Appreciate that Phil Jackson has proven he is the greatest coach in NBA history because each season could be his last as an NBA coach. And appreciate that Kobe Bryant has grown into the great player we all hoped and prayed for because each season he plays inevitably brings us closer to the day when he hangs up his sneakers for good. One thing you learn as you get older is that time conquers all.My name is Tom and I am a Lakerholic. My message: Get ready to appreciate Greatness. Posted by: LakerTom | August 17, 2009 at 07:44 PM

Do I have to say it?... You damn right I do!!
OUT FREAKIN STANDING!!! You would have made Chick proud Sir and I salute you!!
Larry(Mamba24)
EDWIN GUECO, Thank you sir but...I'M NOT WORTHY, I'M NOT WORTHY!!! But thank you any way Professor.
Larry(Mamba24)

Thanks K Bros for publishing the thread of your competitor in my previous post. Don't worry they are your junior in the blog business.

Speaking of Chick, if he were alive today will he be a Lakerholic espousing the best of Drew Bynum after his first debut with the Championship season? I wonder what he will say about the overall performance of Luke Walton, the son of HOF'er, disappearing in many games or those frustrating "brick" shots? I guess those questions will never be answered but a true Laker fan in South LA would fill in the blanks. I listened to Chick from 1980 till his death and I never heard the word "greatness" giving props to his broadcasting career. He always mentioned his contemporaries like Bill Bertka, Jerry West, Elgin Baylor and Bill Sharman but never put the Showtime Lakers as the best he had seen, he would just say it is one of the best. He was also grateful to Mr. Cooke, the first owner of the Lakers and later, Jerry Buss for giving him the opportunity to broadcast those more than 3,000 games. I wonder if he will canonize Drew today as one of the best centers in the league. Yes, he is a great potential out there, a great potential in 2007, '08 and still a great potential in this coming season. (As Dave M said, this could be his make or break season or perhaps two more seasons till '10.) One thing great about Chick, he told the story the way it should be said. Whether you agree or disagree, he would not camouflage his feelings or discontentment to praise or critique the coach, the front office, the referees, or even the erring players on both teams. I believe that is the first measure of greatness of a true Laker fan - you got to be HONEST with realities of the game out there. Live games are not played for wishful thinkers. Most of the people I met on the streets or in our neighborhood would give me their true assessment of the team based on their experiences and what they see, yet if they were members of this blog, they will be branded as fair weather fans. LOL! Of course, we all know honesty can be stretched, politicized and spinned to one's agenda. One thing great also about Chick is his conviction to be the best, not afraid of any competition out there whether you are from the humongous network, he would devise ways to differentiate his style from the flock of announcers from: Tom Heinsohn, Brent Mushburger, Dick Stockton and Bill Russel in the eighties. In the 90's, these are the broadcasters he has dislodged namely: Bob Costas, Marv Albert, Jim Gray and Ahmad Rashad. Nobody, I say nobody among these broadcasters could penetrate the LA market, the listeners see their faces on the tube but don't hear their voices. I think behind the greatness of the golden voice was a great wife, Marge, his truest confidant and an honest confidant. Therefore if we relate this greatness to Drew Bynum, if he wants to be great Center he has to show some flashes of creativity down the post not merely dunking or dominating lilliputian PG's with hard fouls but capture the moment and convert that potential into real big dominant.

LakerTom,

"Appreciate that we have four potential all-stars in Kobe Byrant, Pau Gasol, Andrew Bynum, and Ron Artest"

now now ... let's not forget our 3rd best player last season, Lamar Odom.

24 + 16 + [1]7 = The Purple Tinted Golden Age

I'll never forget a completely classless remark Chick made. A little old lady had called before a game. She something to the effect of, "We need to..."

"What's this 'we' stuff? Are YOU a Laker?"

She so closely identified with the team that she said "We". Many die hard sports fans say that when speaking about "their" team". I know Vin would never say something so rude to a die hard Dodger fan who made a similar remark.

Edwin-

You're welcome, but when have we not posted stuff from other blogs or "competing" websites?

BK

Good morning Mamba24 & the fabulous Laker morning CRUE!!

God I miss Chick. There's not a game that goes by where I don't think that at least a dozen times. There will NEVER be another announcer like Chick - EVER. Meanwhile, we suffer through the slings & arrows of outrageous announcers who are all about everything BUT the game. I hate it. You'd think the Lakers would be able to find a better team than Stu and Joel. Seriously. It's not rocket surgery.

Sherrif - what's with the new handle?

phred - welcome back!

Mamba24 - We use the term "outstanding" here a lot, and we mostly mean it, but your "ode to Chick" was outstanding in the truest sense of the word. Thank you for putting into words the feelings we have that remind us all just how great he was, and how missed he is and will always be.

complex(my)brotha / LakerTom - mine was orange. Loved that car. My dad sold it behind my back when I went to university. That still ticks me off LOL!

Have a great day fellow Lakerholics - it's only a month or so until preseason - YEEE HAAAWWWWW!!! LOL!

@ EJK & Ex

You guys must have never been to a soccer game before.
It doesn't happen to just the U.S. This is routine even for local league games.

Sorry to burst your bubble about the U.S. soccer team being special enough to have that done to them.

Soccer fans are some of the most crazy, ultra die hard fans in the world...Cleveland's Dog Pound (who where known for wrapping D cell batteries in snow and throwing them at player) don't have anything on the English Soccer Hooligans or the some of the Barras in South America.

Another thing about Murray...

I would read every article he wrote, even if it was about golf or something else I didn't have any interest in. His writing was so good, the subject didn't matter. He made you feel like you were talking to your best friend about something he was passionate about. He was a great writer, not like the hacks we are subjected to now.


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tomK,


I like the idea of bringing on Bruce Bowen not so much so he can get significant playing time, but moreso to help mentor our younger players (Brown, Vujacic, Farmar, Morrison) on defense.


If we had Bowen, Artest, and Kobe together on the team, well, that is going to create a VERY strong ethic on our team of "If you wear Purple and Gold, you play DEFENSE, get it?!?!"


What do we play for? RINGS!!!!


Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.


GO LAKERS!!!

Great job mamba24 on the Chick Hearn post. If that's the best you can do, I would hate to see your worst.

I miss Chick as well. The games are not the same with out him putting the game in the fridge. Or when someone made a bad pass hearing him say the "mustard is off the hotdog". He called the game with so much excitment in his voice. He just didn't mail it in. And when his son died and he missed his only game broadcasting. He came back for the next game and said "sorry i missed the last broadcast my son Died" Thats so classy thinking of us when he was in pain.

We also should enjoy Vin Scully while we can this year. He's going to be retiring soon as well. I grew up listing to Viny before I even Heard of Chick Hearn. I was a Dodger fan before I was a Lakers fan, but I will enjoy Vinny while he's here. He the last of the great announcers. We will of course have other announcers but there will never be anyone like Chick And Vinny.

Long Live Sir Chickolaus Hearn! He will always be missed! Every Laker game, and everyday!!!

Thank you Chick!!

EJK,


"I have to express my disgust at the complete lack of sportsmanship and class among Mexican soccer fans at the game. Throwing beer bottles and bags of urine at the US players? Really?"


Yeah, really. No class whatsoever.


What infuriates me most is when the US plays Mexico IN CALIFORNIA, the crowd is primarily composed of people waving Mexican flags and dressed in red, white and GREEN.


It just sickens me.


What do we play for? RINGS!!!!


Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.


GO LAKERS!!!!

Is anyone else not seeing updates for 2 hours...?

Chick,

I still miss him...a lot. He was like a favorite uncle while I was growing up in L.A. He had so much humanity and an incredible work-ethic. And he loved the Lakers without being a homer.

You can take any other so-called 'sports town' in the USA. NONE of them can measure up to Los Angeles even sans an NFL team not only because of all the great players and un-belivable history of the Dodgers and Lakers (not to mention the ONLY city with anything close to UCLA-USC) but because we had Chick Hearn and had and have Vin Scully. Puts Los Angeles over the top of New York, Boston, Chicago, you name it.

Many feel the same as Dave M ... "How refreshing to read a piece by Jim Murray. I miss his presence like I miss Chick." It was 11 years ago Sunday, August 16, that Jim Murray passed away. His legacy lives through the Jim Murray Memorial Foundation, providing scholarships to college journalism students, and supported by the Los Angeles Lakers organization.
Jim Murray's vintage columns are posted each week by the JMMF. To receive the "Monday with Murray" columns, email [email protected] and please visit the JMMF website, www.jimmurrayfoundation.org. Yes, Jim and Chick were icons but even greater men. Simply the best!
Linda McCoy-Murray (Mrs. Jim)
President & Founder
Jim Murray Memorial Foundation

What infuriates me most is when the US plays Mexico IN CALIFORNIA, the crowd is primarily composed of people waving Mexican flags and dressed in red, white and GREEN.

Posted by: Jon K. | August 18, 2009 at 10:02 AM
------------------------------------------------------------

Wouldn't that be anywhere Soccer is played in the U.S.?
Not just California. Because fans of el El Tri, or any other National team playing against the U.S. would fly or drive pretty much anywhere in the country to see and support their squad.

Everywhere else in the world no matter what country National Squad matches draw sold out crowds. It is only the U.S. that has to play away games at home because of lack of fan base.


If anything you should be disgusted at the fact that most sports fans dismiss the U.S. National Soccer team as an Flavor of the Month phenomenon, and would rather spend hunderds of dollars on 1 Local Football game than spend 15 bucks on a general admission ticket to a National Team Soccer match.

Is anyone else not seeing updates for 2 hours...?
Posted by: justanothermambafan | August 18, 2009 at 10:19 AM

Mine is kind of slow. Yesterday was more like 3 hours.

Linda McCoy-Murray (Mrs. Jim),


Thanks for posting the link to Jim’s columns on the blog. I am another Lakers fan who grew up loving Chick’s broadcasts and Jim’s columns. He was my favorite sports writer and we were all blessed to be able to share greats like Chick, Vin, and Jim. Where or where have they all gone?


Tom

The Infamous El Guapo,


I've seen some televised games on the Eastern Seaboard where the crowd was pretty pro-American.


I'm just a pretty patriotic person and the son of an immigrant. My father would NEVER (EVER!) root for his home country over America. (NEVER!) So when I see immigrants coming to this country and rooting for their home country over America, it sickens me. It's downright traitorous.


On the flip side, yes, we as Americans should support our national team with greater fervor. The problem is that soccer is not our grandfather's game. It's popularity is really only within the last generation. It will take some time for the majority of Americans to think of soccer as an "American" game, which, I believe, they will, eventually.


What do we play for? RINGS!!!!


Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.


GO LAKERS!!!!

Mamba24,


The updates are slow, but there's not a lot to talk about. The Kamenetzky Brothers do deserve some downtime, after all.


Right now I feel that we're all just doing whatever we can to feed our lakerholicism until October 27th so we don't get the shakes and start seeing Purple and Gold elephants walking through the room blasting the rhythm of the Lakers' five clap with its trunk.


What do we play for? RINGS!!!!


Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.


GO LAKERS!!!

Right now I feel that we're all just doing whatever we can to feed our lakerholicism until October 27th so we don't get the shakes and start seeing Purple and Gold elephants walking through the room blasting the rhythm of the Lakers' five clap with its trunk.Posted by: Jon K. | August 18, 2009 at 11:27 AM

There you go reading my mind again Jon K. Lol!

Jon K - the P&G elephants I see arent' real????

*gulp*

I'm in trouble....

FIX THE TRUNCATED LINES, LA TIMES!!!

Great blog, too bad there isn't a link to the whole Murry column, or more of his archives. Still a great blog.

Out Of The Loop...

Good Morning Everyone.....

That was the hardest 3 and a half days for a long time....
Last Thursday my wife down loaded some music and contracted a very nasty virus to our computer.As a result we nearly lost everything on it..The only thing we retained from the drive was pictures straight after our daughter was born..I would have sweated less running 42km than i did waiting to get my computer back...That was a close..Everything is now backed up..I know it should have been before..

Ak/Bk....Im really sorry but the text has changed since i was last on this sight..As a result of this my eyes are watering non stop..It really hurts..shocking...what happened to the bold Gothic look?..Even that looked better....

I’m really starting to like that Minnesota team. It’s our stepsister in a way. Same mother. It’s the country of our beloved Lakers’ birth, and the city my brother thinks has the prettiest girls in America. And the home of the ramshackle Bob Dylan.


I like the balance of that team too, so long as they keep Rubio. I love the Love / Jefferson combo up front and the Rubio / Flynn combo in the backcourt. If they suck this year and add some more cheap, high quality talent, watch out.


My kung fu recommendation of the day is “Shaolin, Ex Monk,” aka “Renegade Monk.” A kung fu sheriff goes undercover to catch a renegade monk who’s also the leader of a bank robbing gang. It opens with an amazing old school title sequence that’s one of the finest I’ve ever seen slapped on the front of a kung fu film. Killer, heart pounding music (conga drums, surfer guitar, all that stuff) set to simple black and white action photos of the characters, all against a flat blue background with an arrangement of camera close ups and pans to make the photos come to life. Like Pee-Che folder characters doing flying kung fu tricks at a Dick Dale concert. Simple, but amazing. These title sequences and production company logos are really hidden gems of the kung fu genre. Most are different and all have a uniqueness that make them little works of art; little tiny movies unto themselves. I’m a big fan, as is Tarentino. I can tell because he feature a few pretty prominently in his movies. He flashes the Shaw Bros, I think.


Go Lakers!


Wes

I'm bored as heck too. Football season is only important because it indicates basketball season is starting soon, and you better have your offseason workouts in full swing.

Well, that last part was back when I was actually playing alot of ball.....now its to lose weight before I gain it back from all the winter time 'insulation' I tend to put on.

While we're talking about announcers, they should have a daily tally on ESPN for how many times a person says "At the end of the day." Really annoying. It is just a line to attempt to predict the future. Then, the next day, it is a new "end of the day" argument.

For example - "At the end of the day, does Brett Favre make the Vikings a better team?"

P.S. Skip Bayless is retarded.

I was lucky enough to meet Chick not once but twice-he was as nice and as genial as has was talented, gifted and loved. But not only are we lucky to have Chick and Vin, but don't forget Bob Miller, another pioneer broadcaster who has been teaching us the NHL all these years when no one else could, and lest we forget Dick Enberg doing the play by play for the Angels for so many years. WE indeed in Southern California, have truly been blesssed.

I'll trade one image of Corey Feldman as Michael Jackson for one update.


Who's game?


http://tinyurl.com/2rlaqw


Wes

THE TIMES THEY ARE A CHANGING…


Last Sunday when I was gambling in Reno, I purchased a hardcopy New York Times and came across a fascinating article by Daniel Radosh titled “While My Guitar Gently Beeps,” which discusses the birth and development of the Beatles new music video game and how interactivity is changing how people experience music in the Guitar Hero/Rock Band gaming era. If you love the Beatles or music games, the article is a must read. Here is a link: http://tinyurl.com/mz4ky2


The article discuss how Paul McCartney is taking full advantage in the changes in how music is delivered and enjoyed in this digital age where music games have now overtaken sports games as the number two selling category after action games. As someone who grew up listening to 45 RPMs and 8-track tapes but now owns an iPod, I have never played Guitar Hero or Rock Band. But as a former musician, I can easily understand how such interactivity could enhance of the musical experience.


More and more bands also seem to understand the impending changes in music distribution and are simultaneously releasing Rock Band versions of new albums being released. There are now over 800 songs available for download from the Rock Band catalog. From records to tapes to CD’s to games, the music industry has undergone massive shifts in technology and marketing. What we used to only hear, we now can see as a video and even join in and play as part of a music game.


Ironically, the news business has faced some of the same cataclysmic changes in technology and consumer buying habits that have befuddled the music industry. And again, the move is from static passive web sites to dynamic interactive virtual destinations. We have seen the same trends on the LA Times Lakers Blog, where AK and BK have integrated a multitude of different features – polls, podkasts, live blogs, FaceBook, Twitter – designed to enable bloggers to interact among each other.


We also see the same trend in professional athletes adopting Twitter and FaceBook and other non-conventional ways to communicate with their fans. Where is this all leading to? Who really knows. No matter what, we have come a long way since the birth of email and websites in integrating high technology into our lives, especially in the areas of social networking and marketing.


Tom

TomK-

I think you said what i've been trying to say for years and said it better. Appreciate the greatness while it's happening. Of course, this is the Lakers, so some people do sort of take it for granted.

Of course, what I look forward to the most, inshallah, is reading this blog in twenty years and hearing about how great the old laker squads were in 08 and 09, and we were so deep that even a great player like luke walton who had four or five rings wasn't even the first or second guy off the bench.

IT IS ALL ABOUT THE LOVE

GO LAKERS!

justa- glad to be back. what did i miss?

" So when I see immigrants coming to this country and rooting for their home country over America, it sickens me. It's downright traitorous."

-Jon K-

That is crazy talk. That's like saying, YOU can't cheer for the Lakers, you should cheer for the Cleveland Cavaliers now that you are a resident of Ohio.

"Meanwhile, we suffer through the slings & arrows of outrageous announcers who are all about everything BUT the game. I hate it. You'd think the Lakers would be able to find a better team than Stu and Joel. Seriously. It's not rocket surgery." Posted by: justanothermambafan

Say what you will about Joel (who I think is fine), but lay off of Stu. You can't possibly have a beef with Stu Lantz, can you? He's the best color guy in the game (not to mention the other half of Chick 'n Stu).

justanother,

"Is anyone else not seeing updates for 2 hours...? "

I get updates every fifteen minutes, but you have to be a Platinum member for that. (Or is it, you have to have a Platinum member? I always forget which. Oh, well, I qualify either way.) If you would like, I can sign you up for just $20/month.

Edwin.

What are you doing?

Wes

Greg Sharp (and others)-

A couple people have said they can't see the link to the full Murray column. Is that the case? When I load the blog (in Firefox) the hyperlink is clear, taking you to the archived column. Do others not see that? If you don't, let me know, and also what browser you're using. We'll pass the info on to HQ.

Thanks.

BK

Nice to hear from Mrs. Murray here. She obvously doesn't need me to tell her that Jim was, and still is, an icon not just in LA but everywhere great sportswriting is appreciated. He is absolutely the best sportswriter I've ever read, bar none!

My memory plays tricks on me sometimes these days, but I could swear that Jim had some cameos in TV sitcoms back in the '70s. Was it The Brady Bunch maybe, or perhaps it was The Odd Couple? I can't really recall which but I'm pretty sure it was him because he had a very distinctive look, about the thickest coke-bottle-bottomed horn-rimmed glasses of all time. Not to make fun of him, because I've got awfully thick glasses myself and I think he had some kind of degenerative eye problems if I'm not mistaken. When I used to wear mine to work the ex-military guys would call them B.C. glasses, short for birth control glasses. Meaning that they would keep the women away, but maybe not the smart ones like Mrs. Murray.

I'm thinking that being near Hollywood and being so well known is what got him a few gigs in the studio, but maybe I just dreamed it all up. Anyway, like I said before, I still miss him.

mike,


>>> and lest we forget Dick Enberg doing the play by play for the Angels for so many years.


The best Dick Enberg moments in my opinion came on his late night delayed telecasts of the UCLA Bruins basketball team during the John Wooden era. Who can forget him singing B.J. Thomas’ “Raindrops Keep Falling” as waves of Bruins won 10 NCAA championships over a span of 12-years.


I have to admit to falling out of love with Dick in his later years but as a young announcer on the way up but not yet national, he was terrific. A little bit of homer, of course, but we’re talking about John Wooden, undoubtedly the greatest coach in the history of college basketball in my opinion.


Tom

ex,

>>> I get updates every fifteen minutes, but you have to be a Platinum member for that. (Or is it,
>>> you have to have a Platinum member? I always forget which. Oh, well, I qualify either way.)

LOL. Sorry to hear about your Platinum member but I hear that they have made “huge” advances in prosthetic technology. You must be sort of like Iron Man but with your own personal propeller.

Tom

C. Santana,

You`re way off, Carlos!

Hearn didn`t miss any games when his son died in June, 1972. LA`s season had ended 3 1/2 weeks earlier.

He missed a game in 1965, due to a blizzard.
Heart surgery in 2001 caused him to miss his next one.

Damn, now I have to teach you guys Laker history, too?!?

phred - what did you miss?? A whole revamping of the blog. Other than that, not much...

ex - if you're paying, I'm game!

Andrew Bernard - yah - I guess I do have a beef with Stu. He's just so annoying. He knows more than you, every time, and can do it better too. Irritating. He wasn't that bad when Chick was calling the game, but he does it all the time that now Joel is with him. Granted, they're the best team out there, but I just think the Lakers should do better. JMHO...

WesJoe,

Just got back to the blog, ran some errands the whole day and can't slow down the LA traffic.

Are you aware that Minny T'wolves are currently talking at this time with the Knicks for the Rubio's contract. Well, the buying team has to invest a couple of millions to buy him out from his contract with the Spanish team. I don't think Minny can't wait and perhaps, they like David Lee and other Knicks players rather than waiting for Rubio for the next two years.

Wouldn't it be great if Lakers will be the one doing that? however it is too obvious for Rambis to play the role of "Judas" on his first season with the T'wolves. He has more class than the former trojan horse, Kevin McHale.

Did you read that story about Dylan? The NJ cops didn't recognize him and asked some ID? He cooperated like any ordinary citizen and let his stardom blown in the wind.

Chick made all of his sidekicks better, mostly because he never let them get a word in edgewise. Stu was really bad when he started out with Chick, but he gradually improved. I was never too enamored with his style but he did develop into a very professional analyst somewhere along the line. Nowhere near as good as Doug Collins but I guess that's why he doesn't do national broadcasts.

Lynn Shackleford was even more stilted than Stu when he started out, but unfortunately Lynn never really got that much better, even with all the years he spent with Chick. He was really only tolerable because Chick never let him say anything.

I think that of all Chick's sidekicks, I liked Keith Erickson the most and even he wasn't all that good. At least he didn't seem as stilted as the others and I'm not really sure why he left. Wasn't he supposed to get a coaching gig or something? If I remember correctly, Stu replaced Keith, who replaced Lynn. I think they dumped Lynn unceremoniously for incompetence, it's a wonder that he lasted as long as he did and I guess he can thank Chick for that.

Chick carried these guys for all his years and even though none of them were fit to carry his mic, he always made them seem much better than they ever were, or would have been, without him. I always wondered why they bother to provide Chick with an analyst at all. He certainly didn't need one, except maybe to come up for air every once in a while. Maybe their real job was to keep his water glass full or something.

As to Vin Scully, I recognize his talent but as an Angel fan I rarely listened to him. However, I do hope he gets the send off he deserves as one of the greatest baseball announcers in history. He's also had his share of problems with incompetent sidekicks. I'm thinking specifically of Jerry Doggett.

The Angels had a great announcing team in the '70s with Dick Enberg and Don Drysdale, before they both went on to national broadcasting careers. I haven't been so entertained watching Angels games until Rex the Wonder Dog came along. He certainly can't hold a candle to Enberg, nor Drysdale, as a professional announcer, nor obviously to Drysdale as a player, but his enthusiasm is contagious, or viral if you prefer. Rex has some great baseball stories to tell and I wish I could see more of him this season instead of Gubiza. Don't get me wrong Gubi is very good at what he does but Rex is a three-ring circus.

Infamous El Guapo,

"Soccer fans are some of the most crazy, ultra die hard fans in the world...Cleveland's Dog Pound (who where known for wrapping D cell batteries in snow and throwing them at player) don't have anything on the English Soccer Hooligans or the some of the Barras in South America."

Let's say soccer fans are some of the most crazy, ultra die hard fans in the world. Does that in any way excuse their absolutely juvenile and classless behavior? No. You can be a diehard fan of any sport without being an idiotic jerk. That even applies to Celtics fans.

ChicNstu,


It's not crazy talk.


Unless, of course, you believe in a one world state without national pride.


What do we play for? RINGS!!!!


Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.


GO LAKERS!!!!

Reds Love child

You'r so right. I should not have guessed. I knew he missed a game or 2 and I couldn't remember when it was. Great memory. Next time I will check my facts before I write it down. Thanks for the History lesson. I didn't even know about the Blizzard.I remember now that you mentioned the surgery but not the blizzerd.

Thanks

C. Santana

What infuriates me most is when the US plays Mexico IN CALIFORNIA, the crowd is primarily composed of people waving Mexican flags and dressed in red, white and GREEN.

Posted by: Jon K. | August 18, 2009 at 10:02 AM
------------------------------------------------------------

Wouldn't that be anywhere Soccer is played in the U.S.?
Not just California. Because fans of el El Tri, or any other National team playing against the U.S. would fly or drive pretty much anywhere in the country to see and support their squad.

Everywhere else in the world no matter what country National Squad matches draw sold out crowds. It is only the U.S. that has to play away games at home because of lack of fan base.


If anything you should be disgusted at the fact that most sports fans dismiss the U.S. National Soccer team as an Flavor of the Month phenomenon, and would rather spend hunderds of dollars on 1 Local Football game than spend 15 bucks on a general admission ticket to a National Team Soccer match.

Posted by: The Infamous El Guapo | August 18, 2009 at 10:56 AM

=============
Well said El Guapo,

But what digusts me more is the racism disguised as patriotism.

Sir on this I will be an alter ego to you and call me El Buenote.

I started following the Lakers in 1962 and have been a fan ever since. I remeber when Chick was a one man show doing the pregame show, the play calling by himself, the halftime interviews, the game wrapup and then the postgame radio call in show. Hell, he would even partially direct the telecast telling Susan Straton what to put her cameras on. He was the most amazing broadcaster I have ever heard. We are so spoiled in LA, we have had Chick, Vin, and for a time we had Dick Enberg doing the UCLA games....amazing memories, thanks Chick for all of them....

Chicky Baby, Vinnie, Enberg and Drysdale, classics. How about a P.A. announcer by the name of Tom Ramsey? You could hear him all over town.

Man, I was so lucky to grow up listening to Chicky Baby calling the Laker games, Vinny calling the Dodger games and Dick Enberg calling the Ram games. Also Bob Miller calling the King games. What a time to be a kid and what a time to be a sports fan in Los Angeles. I don't care what the East coast people say, nobody has ever had it better and nobody ever will again.

"Chick Hearn did the same things for pro basketball, which had almost no language of its own when he came along"
more about that here:
http://laughterhopesockintheeye.wordpress.com/2009/08/22/poets-at-the-microphone/

 
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