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Happy (kinda) 60th birthday NBA!!!

60 Cool little factoid of which I was previously unaware: On this day sixty years ago, the NBA was- to some degree- "born."  As SI's Steve Aschburner explains, the league is considered 63-years old by some roundball historians, what with the official formation of the Basketball Association of America.  However, professional basketball didn't really come into its own- or simply carry the "NBA" name- until the BAA merges with the higher profile (but still in need of a goosing) National Basketball League on August 3, 1949.  Or until Slava Medvedenko entered the league, depending on your ability to think outside the box.

I'm not enough of a true "expert" to debate Aschburner's take on the truly proper date to give the Association a cake.  But hey, unless you have something bigger to celebrate today- perhaps the anniversary of Tiberius defeating the Dalmatians on the River Bathinus, although that's such a cliched, commercialized reason to party- why not send the league a "happy, happy?"

Aschburner also concocted a cool list of basketball by the numbers 1-60, definitely worth checking out if you loves you some trivia.  Below the jump are the digits involving the Lakers on some level.  As one might imagine, purple and gold are two very well represented colors.

1. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar's rank in career minutes (57,446), points (38,387), fouls (4,657), MVP awards (six), All-Star berths (19), Milwaukee Bucks' scoring (14,211) and rebounding (7,161) and L.A. Lakers' blocked shots (2,694).

10. Losses for the Chicago Bulls in '95-96. Which means they won an NBA-record 72 times. This is also the Arabic numeral for "X," which is what former Bulls coach Phil Jackson had on his cap in June after the Lakers got him to 10 NBA championships as a head coach.

12. No NBA player has made more three-pointers in a game than Kobe Bryant (Jan. 7, 2003) and Donyell Marshall (March 13, 2005), who each sank a dozen.

15. Years between NBA Finals featuring the Lakers and the Celtics, 1969-84.

16. Washington's Gilbert Arenas, locked in a scoring duel with Kobe, scored 16 of his 60 points in overtime in a 147-141 victory over the Lakers in L.A. on Dec. 17, 2006.

20. Percent of their games from which Walter Dukes (21.9) and Vern Mikkelsen (20.1) fouled out during their careers. They're the only guys in league history (minimum 400 games) to be disqualified at a 1-in-5 pace.

(AK's note: I haven't done the math, but I'm willing to assume that if Travis Knight played just 29 more games over his career, he'd have bumped ol' Walt and Vern into respective second and third place spots.)

22. Number of playoff triple-doubles by which Magic Johnson leads Oscar Robertson, 30-8. Robertson holds the NBA career mark in regular-season games, 181 to Johnson's 138.

25. Points scored by Detroit's Isiah Thomas in the third quarter of Game 6 of the 1988 NBA Finals -- on a severely sprained ankle. But the Pistons lost and lost again two nights later when Lakers forward James Worthy picked Game 7 for the only triple-double of his career (36 points, 16 rebounds, 10 assists).

28. Kobe sank 28 field goals in 43 tries, seven of them from three-point range, en route to scoring 81 points against Toronto on Jan. 22, 2006. It ranks second all-time in points scored to Chamberlain's 100-point bar-setter 44 years earlier.

33. With a 134-90 spanking of the Atlanta Hawks on Jan. 7, 1972, the Los Angeles Lakers won for the 33rd consecutive time, an NBA record.

34. In 34 road games in the NBA Finals, Milwaukee (4-1), Chicago (12-6) and San Antonio (7-4) are the only franchises with winning records. Everybody else is a combined 112-217, .340. That includes the Celtics (27-31, .466) and the Lakers (33-53, .384).

35. The Miami Heat didn't score 100 points in a game in 2001-02 until a 102-96 victory over the Lakers in L.A. on Jan. 16, 2002. Their streak of 35 games in double digits is the NBA's longest.

36. Total franchises played for by the NBA's three most-traveled performers: Chuck Brown (12 teams), Jim Jackson (12) and Tony Massenburg (12).

37. Fewest points, two teams, in an NBA game: Fort Wayne 19, Minneapolis 18 on Nov. 22, 1950.

38. Elgin Baylor averaged 38.3 points in 1961-62, the most in NBA history by anyone not named Wilt. But his average doesn't officially rate in the league's record book because Baylor, with military obligations, played only 48 games, squeezing in his appearances on weekends.

40. Bill Russell grabbed 40 rebounds, a Finals record, in Game 2 of the 1960 series against St. Louis. Two years later, in OT against the Lakers, he grabbed 40 again.

41. You say Dirk Nowitzki or Glen Rice, I say Wes Unseld. All of them wore No. 41.

42. Jerry West's team lost Game 7 of the 1969 Finals, but his 42 points, with 13 rebounds and 12 assists, earned him the inaugural Finals MVP trophy. He remains the only member of a losing team to win it.

50. Dominique Wilkins, Bernard King, Bob McAdoo, Alex English and Bob Lanier were among those feeling a little snubbed when the NBA honored its alleged 50 Greatest Players at NBA All-Star weekend in Cleveland in 1997 (celebrating an anniversary almost as forced as this one).

AK


 
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20. Percent of their games from which Walter Dukes (21.9) and Vern Mikkelsen (20.1) fouled out during their careers. They're the only guys in league history (minimum 400 games) to be disqualified at a 1-in-5 pace.

(AK's note: I haven't done the math, but I'm willing to assume that if Travis Knight played just 29 games over his career, he'd have bumped ol' Walt and Vern into respective second and third place spots.)

I think you mean 29 more games. i didn't check the math, either, though

I think I saw “Remember the Dalmatians!” Something about an epic number of dalmations holding off the De Ville empire until the Roman army could reform? Or maybe I’m misremembering.

“…Can't help but think that all of you are full of knowledge...
Posted by: Chaban | August 03, 2009 at 03:52 PM

Or something.

Sure, make justa the sheriff. And lest anybody accuses me of never getting on board anything, add me to the ‘who gives a crap about Shelden Williams’ bandwagon.

What do you mean, there isn’t one?

Phred,

Thanks for the pick up.

AK

Great post for those of us who are NBA fans and not just Laker Fans!

Too bad the list didn't go up to 20,000

Sorry forgot to place the link... http://bit.ly/PuJ3J

Yeah, who gives a crap about Shelden Williams...

Go lakers!!!

Go NBA.. 60 years and counting, and evolving... this is our game...

The Wolves,Cavs and Rockets have been fined for leaking the NBA schedule...It will be released tomorrow...

My hate for the Cavs will be about the same this year..Depending on how i feel before the Christmas game,It could get a little worse...

35..The didnt score over 100 points before they beat the Lakers 102-96....What,did our team go to sleep that game?..
Maybe Madsen started at the 5..lol

Andrew Bernard,

>>> Pig, I'm going to assume that you aren't calling me a lemming.
>>> Hope not, or this is about to get personal.

I’m sure Pig intended that as a jab at me rather than you. After your passionate and persuasive defense of Drew, however, I’d be happy to be an Andrew Bernard lemming. Great job rebutting blitz with sound logic and common sense without succumbing to taking and making it personal, something I need to improve upon. I bow to your superior debating skills. Thanks, Andrew.

Tom

“…Kupchak said. "We brought back basically everybody that we hoped to bring back." (LA times) I think it's less concrete than the statement that's being passed around today "we have brought back everybody that we wanted to bring back (phred, espn)"
Posted by: bangdangvn | August 03, 2009 at 06:36 PM

Bang- I directly quoted the AP as appeared on espn.com, and I clearly stated this. If you have a problem with it, take it up with them. By the way, can you please specify where at (LA Times) you found the quote, and explain why it is more factual? Has AP retracted?

I have stated numerous times that I don’t take as absolute truth any quote that has been given at any source, and I think this provides a good example of why. A single word can give endless fodder for debate. I would accept, though, a recorded transcript of an interview with mitch, co signed by mitch and the interviewer and notarized properly. I mean, I don’t want to get crazy about it.

Did you hit up Wikipedia for this? I've read this all there before...

AK, where is Slavo now..? speaking of lost mini-stars.. Where's Penberthy ? Could he be a caddy by chance ?

Slow night. I'm reading 'The prince of tides,' drinking a good widmer brothers brew, and listeing to miles davis. If i'm good, I think i get to do this when I'm dead.

IT IS ALL ABOUT THE LOVE

GO LAKERS!

phred,

>>> Slow night. I'm reading 'The prince of tides,' drinking a good widmer brothers brew, and listeing to miles davis. If i'm good, I think i get to do this when I'm dead.

Few things in life are better than "Kind of Blue" or "Sketches of Spain." Miles Davis is the bomb!

AI to the Lakers?

He would fit in very well if he ran the bench mob and took Farmar's place..

He's very qualified to run our uptempo game and when it has to go half-court he could play pik 'n roll, not so much the triangle.

A core of Gasol-Odom-AI would be very competitive.

But, I don't think AI would want to have that role of Bench Mob leader on this Lakers team.

Other than that, he wouldn't fit in very well with the starters.

I love his game, the guy is tough as nails, but the chemistry would take a dive in our system.

rick- exactly.

“…I don't know, Sasha and Luke each have a ring, Lebron and Bosh haven't won squat !!!!
Posted by: tomK | August 03, 2009 at 10:22 PM

Spoken like a true Laker fan. Of course, you know, they would, if they could be lucky enough to play with kobe.

in response to edwin gueco,

you said you wish bynum would learn the Dr. J scoop or something like that, and then some other stuff i dont remeber all of a sudden.

my thoughts however lean more towards lamae. what if he learned magic baby hook. the type of hook he utilized after kareem was gone, and the exact same hook i picture in 1996 when Magic came back to the game. it was against the golden state warriors. and he had this nice little running baby hook with the left hand (i think) over latrell spreewell. think of beauty and completely within lamar's physical capabilities.

any other old school moves that certain people should work on? like something from van axel or sedale threatt??

Random off-season post:
Mbenga rocking Kobe's shoes in Eurobasket (tune-up game) - http://tinyurl.com/luxydc


I just hope the FO is making an offer to Iverson. Why not? We've got a little wiggle room with guys like Farmar and Brown and Sasha and Morrison and Walton so why not wiggle some? We can sit, play or trade any of them at any time without the real fear of damaging our team. And I think we need to remember this. Especially by mid year. If no one is hitting the open 3, if none of those 5 is making us super elite, we may have to make a trade. Because that’s there job. They need to make us untouchable, and they can do this by simply hitting open 3s and stopping penetration. That’s it. Hit the shot, get in front of your guy.

I wonder which of those guys will have the best year? I'm going for Morrison. I have a feeling he's about to bust out with all kinds of wild shots.

Here's my list for breakout in 2010
1) Morrison. I see big things.
2) Brown. I see solid play. Defense, 3s, dunks.
3) Farmar. This is his last chance.
4) Walton. He'll be good, but not called on till near season's end.
4) Sasha? I've lost faith. Sorry.

Wes

Penberthy is the character that can be best played by Will Ferrel.

Mamba,

I'll be glad to the driver of the Shannon Brown wagon. Screw tailgating Farmar, I'll be passing him on the left hand lane. I still wish I got Javaris Crittenton in the passenger side.

ex -

20,000. Good one :)

ai? guy would make the love child of smush and gary payton look like mark madsen. chemistry? I remember the time in chemistry class when the prof chucked a good size chunk of sodium into a beaker of water.

no, no, and no.

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(02) LAKER TOM – CO/OWNER
(03) NEVER – DRIVER - I'll be glad to the driver of the Shannon Brown wagon. Screw tailgating Farmar, I'll be passing him on the left hand lane.
(04) #4 – LIKES SHANNON FOR 4 REASONS
(05) MAMBA24 – FAN SINCE MICHIGAN DAYS
(06) JUSTANOTHERMAMBAFAN - I would like to roll with the Shannon Brown's a Keeper bandwagon s'il vous plait.
(07) KEIFO – RIDING SHOTGUN
(08) THE OUTLAW – TAUGHT SHANNON TO PLAY DEFENSE
(09) BABY OUTLAW – WAAAAAAA
(10) FATTY – THINKS SHANNON BROWN IS LAKERS SECRET WEAPON
(11) LAKERSRYDEORDIE – ALWAYS BEEN A FAN
(12) NEMAIA FALETOGO - Shannon is more athletic, stronger and a better defender than Farmar
(13) TALIQ – HE’S GOT MY VOTE IF YOU DON’T LIKE IT I HAVE A CELL FOR YOU.
(14) DOC4daLakeShow - Glad to see Shannon get the run.
(15) JON K - Brown has shown us glimses of potential for us to get excited about.
(16) BD - JORDAN FARMARS WAKE UP CALL FROM MR. BROWN
(17) Sir CHARLES –
(18) utzworld THE BANNER HOLDER - put me on the Shannon Brown bandwagon, por favor. He's most def gunnin for Jordan's (and Fish's) spot.
(19) TALIQ - not only can he play but every minute he spends on the floor means less of farmar refusing to pass to kobe's bff, i.e. sasha"
(20) JOHNNYP - How crucial is Shannon Brown when we have this bench slump going on?
(21) EDWIN GUECO – Air Traffic controller to clear the lanes
(22) JAMIE SWEET – GO SHANNON –(It’s always good to keep your options open)
(23) LAILA - shannon brown was awesome
(24) ChicNstu |- UPS ..Thats what Brown can do for you!
(25) EASTCOAST-JESSIE - I also have to say that Shannon Brown is getting lot's of love from me. The kid is ridiculously athletic and his defense is much better than Farmar's.
(26) LONGTIMELAKERLOVER - I'd love to be on the Shannon Brown bandwagon. Love his passion and committment! Go Brown!
(27) JEFF - ShanWOW's a thrill to watch, he's my new favorite laker not named Kobe or Pau.
(28) BILLY IN SLO - Great attitude + great ability = Great player and teammate
(29) JUSTIN - I'll admit, I'm definitely on the SB bandwagon. Excluding LO, he is simply our Bench Mob X factor. As Shannon raises up, the crowd goes wild.
(30) LAKER TRUTH - Shannon has the skills and the mental strength to be the starting PG in this system.

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(02) FATTY - DRIVER & FINALS DIRECTOR & COMEDY DIRECTOR
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(06) LAKER-KEV – DIRECTOR OF WIN # 70.
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(09) TSPHERE - IN FOR AT LEAST 70 WINS
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(12) DAVE-M – DIRECTOR OF WINS 21 - 30
(13) JAMIE SWEET – MASTER CARPENTER
(14) DJ – WHAT ELSE? …TEAMS DJ
(15) CARLOS – ELGIN BAYLORS BODY GUARD
(16) DPK – MADE RAP RECORD WITH RON-RON
(17) HUBBIT – DIRECTOR OF SANITATION
(18) DICE8UP – STILL ROLLING SEVENS
(19) tha SHOW – TOUGHENED UP RON-RON FOR THE NBA
(20) NEMAIA FALETOGO – DIRECTOR FOR THE DOWNTRODDEN
(21) C. SANTANA – DIRECTOR OF JAZZ
(22) MR. NANO – DIRECTOR OF LOGIC
(23) GRAIL – DIRECTOR OF MYTHIC QUESTS
(24) RED BLUFF PETE – 3 PEATED AS THE WORLD SERIES OF POKER CHAMP.
(25) PHRED – 3 PEAT COORDINATOR
(26) JON K – SECRET AGENT SUPREME & KUNG FU MASTER
(28) EASTCOASTJESSIE – DIRECTOR OF THIS SEASONS PARADE
(29) PYSCHED LAKER GIRL – DIRECTOR OF MOTIVATION
(30) OTIS – DIRECTOR OF LIBATION
(31) LAKERMAN420 – DRIECTOR OF TOKES
(32) JESTERGURU – don't care if we squeak into the playoffs with 40
wins as long as we win another title next year" bandwagon.
(33) TALIQ – SHERIFF
(34) MARKYTHE ARKY – DIRECTOR OF THE LOCOMOTION
(35) JOHNNYP - "Chia Pet Mascot
(36) HELLRAISER (certified mamba fan) 73-9 is up there we just had to grab it!!
LET HELL BE RAISE LAKERS!!

Here's a good question for the Blog.
Which, if either of these records do you think will be broken:100 points by Wilt or 33 wins in a row by Lakers?

I think I saw “Remember the Dalmatians!” Something about an epic number of dalmations holding off the De Ville empire until the Roman army could reform? Or maybe I’m misremembering. Posted by: phred | August 03, 2009 at 05:51 PM

phred I have a feeling you found Otis' secret stash and were celebrating a lil to much. LOL!

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Slow night. I'm reading 'The prince of tides,' drinking a good widmer brothers brew, and listeing to miles davis. If i'm good, I think i get to do this when I'm dead. Posted by: phred | August 03, 2009 at 10:02 PM

phred I don't know how to break this to you but it is impossible to listen to Miles and remain dead? Now if you said Vanilla Ice then you can only listen to him when you are dead. Of course if you listen to him when you are alive it will kill you. So the moral is to enjoy Miles while you are alive. Which come to think of it would be forever because if you try to listen when you are dead you will only come back to life. WTF!!! OH THE HUMANITY!!! MAMBA24 HAS REALLY GONE OFF THE DEEP END THIS TIME. phred this is on you!!! You diabolical genius. Mother of us all Mamba24 has lost his freakin mind!!! LOL!

Oh my - rumors on AI?? Ugh, we don't need him and that brings bad memories of our all-star studded ill fated attempt with GP, Malone, etc.

We don't need AI's bad attitude, sneers or unwillingness to share the ball and unwillingness to come off the bench. Please remember, the triangle depends on ball movement. AI = ball stops with him and stays with him dribbling. No thanks.

Wesjoenixon - nice list of your own. I too hope AMMO breaks out - it would be a great added surprise for LAL and help us greatly in limiting some of the vet's minutes.

Mamba - I want to be in the car with Never and Shannon. Not only is Shannon's name cool but he will be breaking out in the fast lane this year - I just know it!

09-10 sched released today - gee anyone guess where Santa will be on Xmas?

GO LAKERS!!

I've been pitching the idea of Iverson here for more than a week, and still do not see a downside. Dr. Buss has got so much in the pot already that another $2.6 million (Veteran's minimum times two) seems like chump change. Ask Jack for the money if necessary. Tell him to make another crappy film like Bucket List II. The actual worst that could happen is that he'll (Iverson, not Jack) sign with a team the Lakers will face in the playoffs and they regret not having him instead. If it doesn't work, the Lakers cut him lose and he goes home and pouts and eats Vaseline on camera or whatever. Hey, at least ask. Allen, do you want to end your career with the Clippers or Grizzles or Knicks? Come to LA for a year, come off the bench, run the opposition ragged, show you can run the triangle when you are with the starters, then we'll talk about more money next season when Derek likely retires and we can unload Sasha, Jordan, Adam, etceteras. Remember Bill Walton, one of the all-time greats had he not had so many injuries, who was more than happy to come off the bench for the Celtics and garner an extra ring (or was it two). No one thinks any less of him. Play with a champion, Allen, not a chump.

Rick,

Prince of Tides was a great book. Pat Conroy has always been one of my favorite novelists. Read everything he ever wrote. And Miles IS the bomb. Give me a great NorCal weed in lieu of the vino and we’re copacetic.

Just cruising on the championship fumes.

Tom

andand,

"what if he learned magic baby hook. the type of hook he utilized after kareem was gone, and the exact same hook i picture in 1996 when Magic came back to the game."

~~With due respect to your response, I mentioned the hook shot too, tho' did not use Magic who has an excellent foot work but used Hakim, da dream on those post short ranged hook shots. I doubt if Drew could imitate Kareem, I believe that is expecting too much. Kareem perfected that when he was a Bruin, in fact even in high school while Drew has a short stint with basketball.

Here is another tip for the day Drew. We have a long summer, devote more time in STUDYING THE BOARDS from the side angle, front and at a 45 degree angle. Just keep on throwing the ball a 500 times, if you miss one make a follow up. Perfecting board shots is like studying the golf swing, it takes time of practice and training muscle coordination w/ the proper timing and eye focus. First, do it alone; Second, do it with someone guading you; Third, do it in a game of 3 x 3, if you keep on playing you will eventually master the shot as a part of your repertoire, not experimenting during the preseason or season games.

So on the 1st week, you got the hook shots, scoop shots, back to the ring wrist stretched shot. On the next two weeks, incorporate with the board shots. Apply what was learned on the 1st week with the board shots on the next two weeks i.e hook shots using the board, body english scoop shot using the board as an ally and finally, the stretched shot the ring at your back and using the board as well.

I'm not a coach but just a keen observer over the years on what a tall man can do and exploit his height advantage. You may not have the speed of a PG, but nobody can reach u at the top, so try to study the ways in putting the ball at the top of your head. Don't imitate PG's but study the moves of tall men.

Addendum to what I suggested earlier on Drew, if Hakeem is also a tough expectation, then just observe Duncan's hook shots using the board. He is expert on that style - pivot, hook and board.

The Lakers have been the face of the NBA for its 60 years.

Its our party and we invite to it whoever we want.

No organization can claim to be as competitive throughout its history.

The real Number one point:

The Lakers have been to half the NBA Titles and won half of them.

Now that's a stat you can bank on.

Almost forgot, good morning Mamba24!
You have me as the driver on the 70 win bandwagon? Did you know I drive about as good as Ray Charles drove the bus, on the movie "Spy Hard"?

Mamba - I want to be in the car with Never and Shannon. Not only is Shannon's name cool but he will be breaking out in the fast lane this year - I just know it! 09-10 sched released today - gee anyone guess where Santa will be on Xmas?Posted by: PsychedLakerGirl | August 04, 2009 at 07:53 AM

PSYCHED!!!!! You're BACK! Psych you can sit any where you please. Good to see a post from you.
Larry(Mamba24)

I'm not a coach but just a keen observer over the years on what a tall man can do and exploit his height advantage. You may not have the speed of a PG, but nobody can reach u at the top, so try to study the ways in putting the ball at the top of your head. Don't imitate PG's but study the moves of tall men. Posted by: Edwin Gueco | August 04, 2009 at 08:18 AM

DO I HAVE TO SAY IT? DO I? ....OUT FREAKIN STANDING EDWIN!!!!

You have me as the driver on the 70 win bandwagon? Did you know I drive about as good as Ray Charles drove the bus, on the movie "Spy Hard"?
Posted by: Fatty | August 04, 2009 at 08:26 AM

Oh no you don't Fatty!!! Somebody has to drive this damn
Bus and we drew straws and it's your turn Mr.!!! LOL!

andand,

I missed the word "lamae" until I read the word Lamar inside the paragraph. Sorry for commenting on Drew instead of Lamae. lol!

I think Lamar can easily do those shots, he is ambidextrous and moves like Magic and Pippin. All these years, what is the criticism on Lamar? his consistency. Therefore, it is more on the head, his discipline to be a better athlete than being athletic. He can rise furthermore than what he is now, if and only if, he will resolve to believe in himself. For Lamar to move to another level, he should just have an objective, how about an objective of overtaking Kobe? I don't think he will ever achieve it but that is a good objective in challenging of what one can achieve.

Aim for the stars and if you reach the moon, at least you are moving in space venture and should you reach Mars someday, now it is just a matter of time when you will venture across the solar system and may accomplish the ultimate goal.

The 100 points will fall this season. After the Lakers win their 73rd game of the season, everyone will defer to Kobe, who will jack up threes all night, hitting 34 out of 88 against the Clippers.

Good morning Mamba24 and Laker morning CRUE!!!!!

First off, I regret to inform you that my services will not be available as Blog Sherrif. I am not worthy. I thank you for the nomination, but I think Taliq was hanging out with Otis a little too long when he came up with that suggestion. I will, however, nominate Jon K (see previous post as to why), phred and Wes. They should all put forth their qualifications as to why they would make a great sherrif, and the blog can vote. Or - come up with other worthy ones to add to the list.

Secondly - mmmmmmmmmmmmm cupcakes......

Regarding Iverson -

1. The dude is all heart. I'll give him that.

2. He doesn't know the meaning of the word "share" - as in "share the ball".

3. He's got "a bit" of an attitude problem.

Given points 1-3 above, I don't think he'd make a good Laker. He'd have to subjugate his playing style to learn a new one, AND go back to kindergarten to learn how to share. I think that would be too much for him. You can't teach an old dog new tricks.

Having said that, if he actually agreed to the above, would it harm us if he came on board? Maybe not. Having a little more of the unexpected when the Bench Mob came in might actually be a good thing. Who knows for sure? A looney in the starting 5 and a looney coming off the bench may just strike fear into the hearts of the competition. If nothing else, no one would know exactly what we'd be doing on any given play - or any given game. Even us. Sure would be interesting.

If Fatty's drving the 70 win bandwagon, I want those great big bubble airbag things on it like they put on the moon landing pod. You know - for protection....

Add me to the 70 wins bandwagon... I taught Kobe how to dunk.

I think the 33-win streak will fall wayyyy before the 100 points in a game will.

I'll go out on a limb and say it happens this year. We've got a smokin team - let's get optimistic!

PSYCHS BACK
Psych’s back, and aint that great, now we can really celebrate
Part of that title belongs to you, cause you helped pull the Lake Show through
A championship never felt so sweet and so PsychedLakerGirl we must repeat
Just to see your name on the Blog, chases away the morning Fog
We got the title, we got the Ring, & with Psych back we now got everything
We got a warm sensation deep inside for this lady who exudes Laker pride
When others were ready to cut and run, Psych stood strong & said that’s no fun
Through the twists & turns of the season, We all believed & you were part of the reason
When the last whistle of the game blew, We had tears in our eyes because it was for you
So welcome back we reserved you a seat and the championship trip we shall repeat.


Welcome back PychedLakerGirl we missed you Sister!
Larry(Mamba24)

Add me to the 70 wins bandwagon... I taught Kobe how to dunk.
Posted by: Rafa


Rafa you big fat liar. Take that back! Take it back RIGHT NOW! You know it was PsychedLakerGirl that taught Kobe how to dunk. Get real man. You ain't got nothin on her.

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phred,

That post to Rick was to both of you. Thanks.

Tom

Guys - new sheriff? What in the world . . . What about Otis? What's going to happen to me?

Catchin' up from the East coast

Definitely along for the 70 win ride.

Love Shannon Brown, undoubtedly slotted by Phil to play Ron Harper in the upcoming blockbuster season.

Miles Davis is the man, though, having bounced off him a couple times, I'd say best appreciated from 5th row center.

If there is a 70+ wins bandwagon, I'm on it!

Have to disagree with those wanting AI to join the fun. In addition to everything already mentioned, PJ is going to have a hard enough time finding minutes for everyone as it is. Just think of all the combinations he has available now (every coaches dream, I imagine). However, along with all of that flexibility comes the harsh realization that a lot of guys just aren't going to get the minutes they need to get into any kind of flow when they are on the court. I'm thinking Sasha, Farmar, maybe Ammo here. Forget about Powell and Mbenga who are hoping for a lot of blowouts.

A great position for PJ, not so great for guys at the far end of the bench.
ghlaker

When I read Sheldon Williams signed with the Ceptics I know the classless ones are trying to stack against the Lakers. They sawwe had Pau and LO and to compete they added RW and SW when LO signed. This mkes it pf by committee with KG, RW, & SW vs Pau, LO and JP.

Lakers have slight advantage but gap closed up some.
I think if we had kept TA and gotten RA then RA could have been used some minutes against PF's and TA could have been used at sf especially when PP was on the bench.

Guys - new sheriff? What in the world . . . What about Otis? What's going to happen to me? Posted by: Otis | August 04, 2009 at 09:22 AM

What's going to happen to you? Why Otis, Otis, Otis. I think we just found the perfect candidate for Sheriff. Yes, yes, YES!!!!!!!! The badge is practically screaming out your name. Who knows Mayberry's jail better than Otis. Who is more aware of all the Laws particullary
the Alcohol laws? OTIS!!! And on those days when temptation get's to you and you sneak a sip you will have your own key to the cell.
FOLKS LET'S GET THIS BANDWAGON ROLLING WHO WILL JOIN ME ON THE OTIS FOR SHERIFF BANDWAGON!Larry(Mamba24)

Rafa you big fat liar. Take that back! Take it back RIGHT NOW! You know it was PsychedLakerGirl that taught Kobe how to dunk. Get real man. You ain't got nothin on her. Posted by: justanothermambafan | August 04, 2009 at 09:05 AM
ROFLMFAO!!! hahahahhaaha Stop it!! Stop it now I say!
OH THE HUMANITY. WAHAHAHAHHAHAHHA!!

Otis - don't worry - whoever takes over the reins from Taliq will make sure to leave the cell open for you to crash in at night, and they'll also make sure to keep Aunt Bee informed of when you'll be home so she can have some grub waitin for ya. We all know how she worries.

I think the 33-win streak will fall wayyyy before the 100 points in a game will. I'll go out on a limb and say it happens this year. We've got a smokin team - let's get optimistic! Posted by: justanothermambafan | August 04, 2009 at 09:03 AM

Wrong, Wrong, Wrong!!!! They will both fall on the same day. The Lakers will win their 34th and 10Rings will be so happy at the record that he is about to get that he will
unleash Kobe and he will score 106 points. Yes this is
true, I saw it in my vision. Of course I had just finished sampling Otis'secret stash that he has no more use for now that he is about to be Sheriff. LOL!

Mamba24 - Otis for sherrif?? Might as well hand the keys to the funny farm over to the residents. It's a mad mad mad mad world out there and Mamba24's leading the charge. In a thong. On a bandwagon. With great big balloon bags on the sides so it doesn't get damaged. With a bunch of cats on it. Heading for our leaders. Wanting to take over the world. Texting the mothership. Man - are we in trouble.


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OTIS FOR NEW BLOG SHERIFF - BANDWAGON
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(01) TALIQ - THE RETIRED SHERIFF & OWNER
(02) phred - AGENT PROVOCATEUR & DRIVER
(03) MAMBA24 - FAMILY MEMBER & RIDING SHOTGUN
(04) JUSTANOTHERMAMBAFAN – OTIS PR. REP.
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SHANNON BROWN POINT GUARD OF THE FUTURE –BANDWAGON
(****** Formerly Shannon Brown is a Keeper – Bandwagon *******)
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(01) YELLOW FEVER – CO/OWNER
(02) LAKER TOM – CO/OWNER
(03) NEVER – DRIVER - I'll be glad to the driver of the Shannon Brown wagon. Screw tailgating Farmar, I'll be passing him on the left hand lane.
(04) #4 – LIKES SHANNON FOR 4 REASONS
(05) PSYCHED LAKER GIRL - I want to be in the car with Never and Shannon. Not only
is Shannon's name cool but he will be breaking out in the fast lane this year - I just know it!
(06) JUSTANOTHERMAMBAFAN - I would like to roll with the Shannon Brown's a Keeper bandwagon s'il vous plait.
(07) KEIFO – RIDING SHOTGUN
(08) THE OUTLAW – TAUGHT SHANNON TO PLAY DEFENSE
(09) BABY OUTLAW – WAAAAAAA
(10) FATTY – THINKS SHANNON BROWN IS LAKERS SECRET WEAPON
(11) LAKERSRYDEORDIE – ALWAYS BEEN A FAN
(12) NEMAIA FALETOGO - Shannon is more athletic, stronger and a better defender than Farmar
(13) TALIQ – HE’S GOT MY VOTE IF YOU DON’T LIKE IT I HAVE A CELL FOR YOU.
(14) DOC4daLakeShow - Glad to see Shannon get the run.
(15) JON K - Brown has shown us glimses of potential for us to get excited about.
(16) BD - JORDAN FARMARS WAKE UP CALL FROM MR. BROWN
(17) Sir CHARLES –
(18) utzworld THE BANNER HOLDER - put me on the Shannon Brown bandwagon, por favor. He's most def gunnin for Jordan's (and Fish's) spot.
(19) TALIQ - not only can he play but every minute he spends on the floor means less of farmar refusing to pass to kobe's bff, i.e. sasha"
(20) JOHNNYP - How crucial is Shannon Brown when we have this bench slump going on?
(21) EDWIN GUECO – Air Traffic controller to clear the lanes
(22) JAMIE SWEET – GO SHANNON –(It’s always good to keep your options open)
(23) LAILA - shannon brown was awesome
(24) ChicNstu |- UPS ..Thats what Brown can do for you!
(25) EASTCOAST-JESSIE - I also have to say that Shannon Brown is getting lot's of love from me. The kid is ridiculously athletic and his defense is much better than Farmar's.
(26) LONGTIMELAKERLOVER - I'd love to be on the Shannon Brown bandwagon. Love his passion and committment! Go Brown!
(27) JEFF - ShanWOW's a thrill to watch, he's my new favorite laker not named Kobe or Pau.
(28) BILLY IN SLO - Great attitude + great ability = Great player and teammate
(29) JUSTIN - I'll admit, I'm definitely on the SB bandwagon. Excluding LO, he is simply our Bench Mob X factor. As Shannon raises up, the crowd goes wild.
(30) LAKER TRUTH - Shannon has the skills and the mental strength to be the starting PG in this system.
(31) VMAN - Love Shannon Brown, undoubtedly slotted by Phil to play Ron Harper in the upcoming blockbuster season.

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70 WIN IN REGULAR SEASON - BANDWAGON
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(01) TIM-4-SHOW - OWNER & PLAYOFF DIRECTOR
(02) FATTY - DRIVER & FINALS DIRECTOR & COMEDY DIRECTOR
(03) DOGERBLUEBALLS - RIDING SHOTGUN
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(06) LAKER-KEV – DIRECTOR OF WIN # 70.
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(10) YELLOW FEVER – RIDING RIGHT HANDGUN
(11) LAKER JUSTICE DIRECTOR OF WIN # 83
(12) DAVE-M – DIRECTOR OF WINS 21 - 30
(13) JAMIE SWEET – MASTER CARPENTER
(14) DJ – WHAT ELSE? …TEAMS DJ
(15) CARLOS – ELGIN BAYLORS BODY GUARD
(16) DPK – MADE RAP RECORD WITH RON-RON
(17) HUBBIT – DIRECTOR OF SANITATION
(18) DICE8UP – STILL ROLLING SEVENS
(19) tha SHOW – TOUGHENED UP RON-RON FOR THE NBA
(20) NEMAIA FALETOGO – DIRECTOR FOR THE DOWNTRODDEN
(21) C. SANTANA – DIRECTOR OF JAZZ
(22) MR. NANO – DIRECTOR OF LOGIC
(23) GRAIL – DIRECTOR OF MYTHIC QUESTS
(24) RED BLUFF PETE – 3 PEATED AS THE WORLD SERIES OF POKER CHAMP.
(25) PHRED – 3 PEAT COORDINATOR
(26) JON K – SECRET AGENT SUPREME & KUNG FU MASTER
(28) EASTCOASTJESSIE – DIRECTOR OF THIS SEASONS PARADE
(29) PYSCHED LAKER GIRL – DIRECTOR OF MOTIVATION
(30) OTIS – DIRECTOR OF LIBATION
(31) LAKERMAN420 – DRIECTOR OF TOKES
(32) JESTERGURU – don't care if we squeak into the playoffs with 40
wins as long as we win another title next year" bandwagon.
(33) TALIQ – SHERIFF
(34) MARKYTHE ARKY – DIRECTOR OF THE LOCOMOTION
(35) JOHNNYP - "Chia Pet Mascot
(36) HELLRAISER (certified mamba fan) 73-9 is up there we just had to grab it!!
LET HELL BE RAISE LAKERS!!
(37) RAFA – TAUGHT THE MAMBA – KOBE BRYANT HOW TO DUNk
(38) GHLAKER - If there is a 70+ wins bandwagon, I'm on it!

Alright alright justanothermambafan you got me... I just taught Kobe the fadeaway :-(

Morning fellow bloggers:

Mamba,
Word up on the shannon bandwagon.... One small request:: lakertom must be removed immediately! He asked out and last thing we want is traitors on board!!

Also count me in the taliq or justanothermamba for sheriff bandwagon!! Anyone that will have kobes back under any circumstances has my vote!


Wesjoe,
AI? U can't be serious dude. I thought u were kidding the first time.. He's about the worst fit of any guard in free agency. He's always been a shoot first pass second pg mentality and we got so many scorers now last thing we need is another ballhog. I don't question his drive esp after getting no respect this summer and I'm sure he's a good fit elsehwere but once a ballhog always a ballhog. Besides we aint got room for another big ego in the lockeroom what we need is more bluecollar players not no "practice whatchu mean practice" kinda guys

Lakers have slight advantage but gap closed up some.
I think if we had kept TA and gotten RA then RA could have been used some minutes against PF's and TA could have been used at sf especially when PP was on the bench. Posted by: JustaLakerFan | August 04, 2009 at 09:28 AM

Sorry son but you are wayyyyyyyy off. Once a team wins a championship their play and efficiency increases by at least 10 percent without any additions to the cast.
Miami and Boston aside. This will be a defining season for Phil and the Lakers. This team is special & I hate to say this but I have a feeling that 10Rings was kind of holding them back last season and not letting them be all that could be. This season he will unleash them. The man is going for legacy and so we will win at least 73 games in the regular season and we will sweep the playoffs. It may sound crazy but as i said to Otis after I told him to give me the Bottle......

Hey Mamba 24 add me to the shannon for PG bandwagon please... I played Kobe 1 on 1 for the number 8 Jersey, now he wears number 24..

rafa - you sure are talkin a lot of smack for a newcomer. Hope you back it up, son...

rafa - you sure are talkin a lot of smack for a newcomer. Hope you back it up, son... Posted by: justanothermambafan | August 04, 2009 at 10:15 AM

SEE! You're talking like a Sheriff already!!!!

Otis - don't worry - whoever takes over the reins from Taliq will make sure to leave the cell open for you to crash in at night, and they'll also make sure to keep Aunt Bee informed of when you'll be home so she can have some grub waitin for ya. We all know how she worries.
Posted by: justanothermambafan | August 04, 2009 at 09:39 AM
Show some respect for your future Sheriff or you may be in line for a "Teaching Moment". Lol!

You can take the Badge from Otis but you can never
take his FREEEDOMMMMMM!

Lol justanothermambafan, I have been following this blog for over 3 years, especially when I was over in Iraq... I had to watch that horrible Lakers Celtics Final back in 2008 over there through the military cable AFN. man I was devestated... The blog was my only consolation.. I just have never had the time to write.. Now I do though... Go LAKERS!!!

Mamba24,

"Which, if either of these records do you think will be broken:100 points by Wilt or 33 wins in a row by Lakers?"

Good question.

I don't think either record will be broken; however, I think the 33 wins in a row COULD be beaten... by another Lakers' team with a dominating Andrew Bynum.

What do we play for? RINGS!!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!!!!

I really wish I had seen Jerry West and Elgin Baylor play. Chick Hearn always spoke of them in a cherished way. Elgin Baylor is particularly under-appreciated.

What do we play for? RINGS!!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!!!!

FELLOW BLOGGERS JON K. IN THE HOUSSSSSE!!!

I really wish I had seen Jerry West and Elgin Baylor play. Chick Hearn always spoke of them in a cherished way. Elgin Baylor is particularly under-appreciated.
Posted by: Jon K. | August 04, 2009 at 10:41 AM

Just watch Kobe and Gasol and you are seeing the evolution of West & Baylor.
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Mamba24,

I have a question for you:

Can Kobe Bryant win a Championship without Derek Fisher on his team?

Six of the last seven Laker teams featuring Derek Fisher made it to the NBA Finals.

Food for thought.

What do we play for? RINGS!!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!!!!

I really wish I had seen Jerry West and Elgin Baylor play. Chick Hearn always spoke of them in a cherished way. Elgin Baylor is particularly under-appreciated.

What do we play for? RINGS!!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!!!!

Posted by: Jon K. | August 04, 2009 at 10:41 AM

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I did see them play and they were magnificent to watch.

Am I the only one noticing Shaq's recent media blitz? Being on WWF. Having some show on ESPN. Etc.

I'm wondering if this is how Shaq is compensating in preparation for being Robin to LeBron's Batman at Cleveland.

In all seriousness, I'm not sure this town is big enough for both players. I think they'll get a long, but, come on, we all know Shaq. Shaq is great, except when he has to share the spotlight. Anytime someone else gets the spotlight (ANYTIME! and EVERYTIME!) before Shaq in his entire career he has compulsively (COMPULSIVELY!) freaked out and attacked said competition.

Can Shaq actually change?

As a certain Albanian super-model girlfriend used to say to me, "Fish will never be a bird and a leapord can't change its spots."

Will Shaq be able to handle giving up the spotlight to another player while living in a third tier city like Cleveland without seeing the sun for months at a time? Does he have that internal fortitude and humility?

I'm not sure he does.

I'm not sure he does.

I expect drama.

The Curse of the Big Mistake continues....

What do we play for? RINGS!!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!!!!

Better yet who's the greatest Robert Horry or MJ. After all Horry has more Rings. Actually I think Fisher has a lot more responsibility for Kobe winning those rings than you would think at first glance. He is the one person during all the title runs that he consistently listened to. Not 10rings, certainly not Shaq. He told Kobe when he was jacking up to many shots. he constantly played peacemaker between Kobe & Shaq & Kobe & Phil. And I believe he is the only person on earth that can tell the Mamba he is full of it and not get frozen out on the floor. In short a small share of Mamba's regular and finals MVP's belongs to DFish.

when do regular season tickets go on sale?

I guess it's good that we only have 13 players on the roster. More playing time for the back of our bench.

I'm interested in seeing if Adam Morrison can contribute.

What do we play for? RINGS!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!!!!

Another question for thought....what team is going to beat us this year? I don't ask that facetiously. Orlando beat us both times we played them, and we lost a couple to Portland, and one to Utah (without key players). The Bobcats were a particular thorn in our side.

The caveat of course, is that teams treat playing us like its their own personal Finals. But motivation aside, what team has a chance at upsetting us, at least in the regular season?

Hmmm.....

Jon K - Derek Fisher should have been league and Finals MVP if you ask me. He's been carrying that Bean guy for wayyy to long.

Rafa - it's all in fun - welcome!

Lakers have slight advantage but gap closed up some.
I think if we had kept TA and gotten RA then RA could have been used some minutes against PF's and TA could have been used at sf especially when PP was on the bench. Posted by: JustaLakerFan | August 04, 2009 at 09:28 AM

Sorry son but you are wayyyyyyyy off. Once a team wins a championship their play and efficiency increases by at least 10 percent without any additions to the cast.
Miami and Boston aside. This will be a defining season for Phil and the Lakers. This team is special & I hate to say this but I have a feeling that 10Rings was kind of holding them back last season and not letting them be all that could be. This season he will unleash them. The man is going for legacy and so we will win at least 73 games in the regular season and we will sweep the playoffs. It may sound crazy but as i said to Otis after I told him to give me the Bottle......


Posted by: Mamba24 | August 04, 2009 at 09:57 AM

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Love your passion and posts and bandwagons but grandson you are wayyyy wrong.

Increase the team by 10% in efficiency with out additions. How well did that work for Boston last year? Get real.

Wei add RA and improved immediately but he will be declining and foul prone just by being on Lakers with ref bias and not counting his history.

TA would be improving and add value as he matures. We would have best of both worlds! But you also worship PJ with his crazy rotations, non timeouts, non coaching. It took him 7 years what should nave been multiple championships to get to 10. And it was the determination of Kobe and his on/off coaching that did the trick not PJ.

We differ on opinions here and want the best for the Lakers but don't assume I am wrong or you are right based on opinion.

Still love your posts and humor and bandwagons but don't judge me or assume I am wrong because you disagree and don't be condensending by calling me son and I promise not to call you grandson anymore.

Apology accepted in advance.

I find I must repeat -

Mmmmm..... cupcakes.....

Every time I hop on here today, I'm drooling....

I'm also drooling over how this season is going to play out.

Is it October yet??????

AI would be the perfect mentor for Farmar and Shannon.
AI could teach our young PG's how to ignore open players and drive to the lane when there's 'only' two bigs standing in your way. He could also teach them that defense is not as important as the coaches think it is.

Wait a second, I almost forgot. Farmar is already a master in those areas. Never mind, I guess we don't need AI after all.

Jon K,

"Elgin Baylor is particularly under-appreciated."

He was used as a tool by Don Sterling and under appreciated during the tenure of Jerry Buss as the owner. He never got any respectable position in Laker hiearchy. Before Mitch, Lester & PJ assistants, the face of the Lakers is Elgin Baylor. People come to see games just to watch the moves of Elgin because it is beautiful to watch his grace and simplicity in the execution. at that time, the most popular players were the Harlem and seeing Elgin dances, it is like watching a globetrotter. I hope AK/BK will devote a thread and gather films about Elgin.

IMO, I think Elgin could be a good assistant coach as a special trainer (similar to the role of Kareem) on the following players: Odom, Artest and Morrison. I picked these three guys because they can be trained as slashers, they have the shooting ability and may be could be taught on hang time ala' Elgin. Why not Luke? Well, Luke to me is more of a PG, a slow-motion PG. He can set up people up, create passing lanes but does not know how to manufacture a shot, if ever he did it, it is awkward for a pro. it could be a long shot to train him to move like Elgin Baylor! That's why pfunk, chuck and yellofever could not stomach Luke. You have to be patient and understanding to accept Luke as a good 3.

From the LA Times:

A quick glance of the schedule shows that the Lakers play their longest road trip of the season starting in mid-January, with eight road games beginning at Cleveland on Jan. 21 and finishing up at Memphis on Feb. 1, a day after they play the Celtics in Boston.

Boston plays its only game at Staples Center against the Lakers on Thursday, Feb. 18.

Overall, the Lakers have a favorable schedule to open the season, when they will play 17 of their first 21 games at home.

Meanwhile, the Clippers play their only regular-season game at home against the Celtics at Staples on Dec. 27.

I have two questions about the sched.

1. We always have these ridiculous road trips. Why? Why? I heard Jeanne Buss on the radio last year say its the Lakers and not the league, because awards show at the Staples.

My theory? Its all part of a PJ mind motivational thingy. Us against the league. Plus he drops books on the guys to help them search their inner self.

2. The Clippers have only one home game all year? Must be a misprint, no?

Just Say No, Just Say No To AI!

No Iverson. Let him sign with Memphis.

Bynum has developed an outside game, I'm not sure he's quick enough with the ball to pull off a Dr. J scoop shot and not have it flat out smacked out by an opposing big.

In theory, Bynum has been developing a hook shot, but the sky hook would be unbelievable to see in a game.

"Kareem has the ball, goggles shining in the night, swing left, shoot right, GOOD!"

Memories...

Miles is the BOMB, give me Birth of the Cool or Kind of Blue or Bitches Brew, it's all suave and sexy at night. I'll have to go with Laker Tom's sensemillia regime, maybe a guiness to go along with it ta-boot.

Still love your posts and humor and bandwagons but don't judge me or assume I am wrong because you disagree and don't be condensending by calling me son and I promise not to call you grandson anymore. apology accepted in advance. Posted by: JustaLakerFan | August 04, 2009 at 11:24 AM

OK, thanks for accepting my apology. I respect you brother, but don't disrespect me with your condescending B>S. If you are touchy about someone calling you son I hate to see how you would react to name calling. As ffar as my "get Real" Naw! You get real! I specifically mentioned besides Boston and if you had read more carefully rather than rushing to criticize you would have seen that. And I think Boston did damn good for losing KG> How do you think the Lakers would have done if they loss Kobe. Do you really think they would have done as welll as Boston? HUH! and don't compare Bynum with KG cause we saw how he performed last year in the finals and while good certainly was not Superstat level. I don't know brother it seems to me you have a complex of sort but pleasssse. Don't think you know me because of what you see me post or you will be in for a rude awakening & that's the Chicago Way. Again if calling you son offended you I apologize, but if that is not good enough for you we can arrange something else and that also is "The Chicago Way"
Larry(Mamba24)

phred,

Here is the article I read on the LAtimes that added the word hope...it's press conference where odom signed the contract. I'm not sure if it's direct quote or not since I didn't watch the press conference.http://tinyurl.com/nef6g3. Like you've stated before, people can take things out of context and such, and I agree. i don't know if the latimes are more factual than ap, but what's fact is that we got RA, and TA is in houston. And the debate whether TA was first choice or not will always be subjective because we weren't directly involve with the negotiations.

i meant regimen, although any regime run by Laker Tom would probably include mandatory time off to watch the Lakers, so I'm down with that too.

Down with governments, we want Laker Tom as our leader and over lord!

Let's talk sasha.....why so much disgust in him,we know he shot .013 percent from the arch and .102 from the paint this year but he had an incredible season in the 2007-2008 campaign. He was the best shooting 3 pointer on the team,so give him another chance. He's practicing!

The LA Times article also mentions that the Lakers play Boston on Feb. 18th and Orlando. That will be one heck of a double header for the Lakers.

MAMBA 24 IN THE HOUSE!!!

Thanks for the scintillating roll call! SCINTALLATING!!!

Please put me down for the 70 wins bandwagon. These Lakers simply won't be beaten too often in the regular season.

Ditto the Shannon Brown bandwagon. I love that kid. For those who think he can't shoot, he shoots well enough in practice to have gained the confidence of The Bean himself. All he needs is more playing time to shine! If the Bean likes him, so do I!

We open up against the Clippers...Way to go boys,a win on the opening night....

boy, some parts of this schedule are ugly. After a back to back ending in Milwaukee on December 16, they fly to NJ, then:

December:

Sat 19 @ New Jersey 5:00pm
Sun 20 @ Detroit 3:00pm

Tue 22 vs Oklahoma City 7:30pm

Fri 25 vs Cleveland 2:00pm
Sat 26 @ Sacramento 7:00pm

Mon 28 @ Phoenix 6:00pm
Tue 29 vs Golden State

4 games in 5 days, play at home the 25th, hop on a plane, in Sacto, the 26th, hop on a plane to PHX, play the 28th, hop on a plane, Golden State at home...

Since a lot of the nice folks here think a 70+ win season is possible, could the 2009-2010 Los Angeles Lakers beat the 1995-1996 Chicago Bulls, who went 72-10, in an NBA Finals.

In researching this, it was like an episode of the X-Files with respect how similar the two teams (five starters, first two off the bench) were/are. Here's the matchups with Name/Height/Seasons (1995-1996 vs. 2008-2009) Played/Points/Rebounds/Assists/Steals/Blocks

Shooting Guards:
Michael Jordan, 6-6, 10th season, 30.4, 6.3, 4.1, 2.1, .5
Kobe Bryant, 6-6, 12th season, 26.8, 5.2, 4.9, 1.5, .5
Statistically, Jordan has an edge except in assists (which one isn't the team player?), but I see these two fighting to a draw. Jordan was coming back to his first full season after his 17-month "retirement," and both have had to adjust to the wear and tear of long careers.
Point Guards:
Ron Harper, 6-6, 9th season, 7.4, 2.7, 2.6, 1.3. .4
Derek Fisher, 6-1, 12th season, 9.9, 2.3, 3.2, 1.2, .1
Harper has a height advantage and probably a better defender, but Fisher doesn't have to worry about Ron blowing past him. Derek scores a few more points and dishes out more assists, and stays pretty close with steals. No real advantage for either team.
Centers:
Luc Longley, 7-2, 4th season, 9.1, 5.1, 1.9, .4, 1.4
Andrew Bynum, 7-0, 3rd season, 14.3, 8.0, 1.4, .4, 1.8
Before looking it up, I thought Longley had an edge, experience-wise; no really. If memory serves me right (tough at age 55), he was better away from the basket, but Andrew has better skills in close. If Bynum is in the flow of the game as he was before the second injury, I'd have to give the edge to the Lakers.
Power Forwards:
Scotty Pippin, 6-7, 8th season, 19.4, 6.4, 5.9, 1.7, .7
Pau Gasol, 7-0, 7th season, 18.9, 9.6, 3.5, .6, 1.0
Pippin is an all-time great, but think of Gasol now with more than a full year in the triangle. As was the case with Luc, he'll try to draw Pau away from the basket, but how do the Bulls defend Bynum and Gasol in the paint? This matchup is really too close to call.
Small Forwards:
Dennis Rodman, 6-7, 9th season, 5.5, 14.9, 2.5, 0.6, .4
Ron Artest, 6-6, 9th season, 17.1, 5.2, 3.3, 1.5, .3
Wouldn't you love to see these two go at it? This was Rodman's first season with the Bulls and he led the NBA (again) in rebounding. Artest could be put on Pippin, too. I give the advantage to Ron.
Key reserves:
Tony Kukoc, 6-10, 2nd season, 13.1, 4.0, 3.5, .8, .3
Lamar Odom, 6-10, 9th season, 11.3, 8.2, 2.6, 1.0, 1.3
Advantage Lakers. Kukoc was a valuable contributor, but Odom is more versatile.
Steve Kerr, 6-3, 7th season, 8.4, 1.3, 2.3, .8, 0
Jordan Farmar, 6-2 (2nd season) 6.4, 1.8, 2.4, 0.9, .2
Yeah, all the Shannon Brown fans are screaming. OK, here's his line:
Shannon Brown, 6-4, 2nd season, 3.2, 1.1, .6, .2, .1
Jordan had better numbers. Kerr was probably better than either, but not enough to alter the course of the game.
Coaching:
Uh, I guess you could suggest that an older Phil Jackson is a wiser and better Phil Jackson.
I can't be objective; as a lifetime Lakers fan I think Los Angeles wins in seven if they have home court (would depend on 2009-2010 record), six if not, given the 2-3-2 format. It would be a great, great series, however.

Esteemed Bloggers;

I've lived in Mayberry ever since I tumbled out of that freight train boxcar on my way to Raleigh - I never did recover that first jug of corn liquor - must've stayed on the train. I had a lot of early trouble with the law, what with my love for moonshine and all - that is, until Taliq Taylor got elected. Oh, he gave me a big dressing down once but ever since - things have been great. You've see me in church on Sundays giving thanks to Aunt Bee for the black coffee and breakfast that gets me up after a hard Saturday night blogging. I remember when MrBarneyDangles was training for Deputy and I showed him how to lock and unlock the cells in the Mayberry Jail - he was such a fast learner. Yes - I've led a charmed life - all because of folks like you.

I'm truly touched by your support and confidence in me - kind of gets me a little teary-eyed. But, you all know that every time I take a regular job I get fired. Remember the night watchman job the sheriff got me at the farm collective south of town? Me and phred set up a still made out of that old tractor and used up most of the excess livestock corn feed - I've still got a bum leg from when it exploded and I caught fire. Phred got clean away, swearing as he ran to switch to wine - he always said it was safer to grow grapes than brew white lightning. I see him on the blog, making off like he's a Napa Valley gentleman, but he's from the hills. Remember when Barney deputized me and I got us both locked up in the cell? I'm no good, I tell you - I'm just no good.

I saw everybody turn their backs on Taliq when he was getting whipped right in front of the Mayberry Five & Dime by those damn out-of-towners and I know you were scared - we all were, but he stood his ground and kept taking it like a Sheriff should. That's the kind of man we need in charge of this blog.

Until we get ourselves a real sheriff, just remember that I'll never forget your love and support for old Otis.

justa -

From 1 to another - chill out son! Takin on Mamba24?? Don't you know that's like grabbing the bull by the horns?? You're either very very brave or something not so brave LOL!

All in fun, son - all in fun.

Jamie,

>>> Miles is the BOMB, give me Birth of the Cool or Kind of Blue or Bitches Brew,
>>> it's all suave and sexy at night. I'll have to go with Laker Tom's sensemillia regime,
>>> maybe a guiness to go along with it ta-boot.

>>> i meant regimen, although any regime run by Laker Tom would probably include
>>> mandatory time off to watch the Lakers, so I'm down with that too.

>>> Down with governments, we want Laker Tom as our leader and over lord!

LOL. As my first action under the new pro-Lakers regime, to help get the national economy rolling again would be to immediately proclaim a law giving any Lakers fan, as certified by Mamba’s roll (or role) call, a 100% tax credit for the cost of NBA League Pass AND a pair of Lakers Season Tickets. I think that platform would even get ex and Eric M to vote for me. Maybe even Otis, blitz, and oouuchhhhhh. LOL.

Drink and smoke responsibly.

Tom

Mamba24,

I have appointed myself as the chief strategist for Taliq's reelection campaign as Sheriff. The rules state that Taliq is eligible for one more term.

I have also appointed myself as head security officer for the elections. I will be keeping a close eye on the election process as the election results will be null and void in the event of violation of election protocol.

Taliq's new campaign slogan is as follows:
"Ask not what Taliq can do for you, ask what you can do for Taliq."

Jamie,

My second action under MY regime would be to allow reverse NBA contracts where rich fans and celebrities would pay the Lakers to be the 13th, 14th, or 15th player on the team, with the monies collected reducing the Lakers team salary totals as far as the cap and tax threshold are concerned. I figure Jack would be good for $10M per year to be the 13th man, maybe Denzel for another $10M as the 14th man, and then maybe a rotating guest list where we give out 10-day contracts for $1M. All total, I figure we can cut around $30M from the Lakers payroll, actually putting us below the cap. How does that sound? We really only need 12 players to win this thing so let’s make some extra money.

Tom

Otis,

Hilarious, my friend. You forgot to tell them about your pot plantation you started just outside of Mayberry. Got to go with the modern cash crop to maximize the cash. The days of moonshine have long given way to the weed.

Tom

JustaLakerFan,

>>> And yes it is also my opinion (not prediction) that AB will be the next dominating
>>> center in the NBA. And to clarify when I say dominate I do not mean Shaq clone,
>>> I mean dominate. In the NBA there has been dominating centers with different skill
>>> sets but they still dominated. Mikan, KAJ, Wilt, Russell, Shaq, Hakeem etc. They
>>> were dominate but in different ways.

Well said, Justa. I also agree 100% on the misuse of the word “role” when applying it to players. You are right. They all have roles, whether they are starters or substitutes. Phil is superb at building a team where all the players know and understand their role.

Tom

 
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