cardplayer.com generally has the best updates on this. They only give top 10 players' chip counts periodically, notable players' big hands and notable eliminations.

Jordan could make the longer notable elimination list.

everyone go watch the new artest on the lakers site! haha its awesomeeeeeee

yup, i'm just blipping through most the posts these days. The pro/con Luke thing is pretty much down to politics and religion sort of debating, but I did notice that on the summer blog, where we seem to have a lot more 'serious' posters and a lot fewer casual rubber neckers, Luke has a pretty solid following. Go figure

Yeah, I do throw a pretty solid pool party, if I can find a pool, a barbq and the sun. I have occasionally even thrown a decent 'giant cooler and foreman grill' party. These days, it's mostly 'take out and what's in the back of the fridge' party.

But as always, the host's effervescent personality and the quality of the guests make for a respectable shindig.

born in , raised, played Varsity LAUSD, Magic Johnson camp 4 years..., its nothing special since there are so many like me in L.A. league scene. I love Basketball..., Love the L.A. Lakers.

Bottom line - Famar is a trade out now. Maybe down the line he improves, but for now D. Fish and Brown.

I would ike Famar to stay and show he has what it takes.., but I that's not this story line.

As for as all the in favor of talk above.., look I support him in finding the next level, but for now its strictly business...

Artest, the stage is yours. Make it happen.

That's why they call amateurs "landmines."

Staples 24 -

No, the Lakers should NOT reduce whatever offer they have already offered. that would truly be insulting. Instead, if the market continues the way it does and the money well dries up entirely, they should just wait for Lamar to come down to their offer. I'm sure they surveyed the market at the start of the FA period and figured this would be the scenario.

3rd day as a rookie? That is damn impressive. If he somehow wins it all, he will have two world championships in one year. How sweet would that be?

Hopefully, Farmar will apply some newly learned poker principles to his basketball game this summer. Pick and choose your spots, be patient, you can't play every hand, read the situation before deciding to make a play at the pot, don't go on tilt when you are annoyed at another player (i.e. Sasha), don't be one dimensional.

How much flexibility do teams have in terms of structuring annual salaries under a contract?

Take the case of Lamar: The Lakers will be way over the Luxury Tax threshold this coming season, but in 2010-2011, they'll have some contracts coming off the books. Can't they offer Lamar $5 million this year and maybe $11 million the next (it evens out to $8 million per)?

On Farmar and Gambling...

Lots of bloggers (like MilliionaireCafeLA above) are ready to
hand over the keys of the PG position to Shannon Brown and
trade Jordan off for two tickets to wrestlefest and a turkey burger.

But there's a huge gamble in that. Actually, a couple of gambles:

Gamble #1: Was Shannon Brown's performance a sign of
good things to come? Or playing way out of his head by
a guy trying to earn another contract?

(for reference, see the re-signings of Luke Walton in 2007
and Sasha Vujacic in 2008).

If Brown falls back to the level he played at his whole
career prior to joining the Lakers, then they'll need a
backup point guard, and they've got nothing to spend. If
Jordan's gone, they'd have to bring in someone at the
Smush Parker skill level, and we all know how well that
goes.

Gamble # 2: Even if Shannon does take over the reins and
play well, Fish is getting old

(for reference, see Kevin Garnett from 2008-09 season).

If Fish were to get injured, as long as they have both Brown
and Farmar, they'll be fine. If you throw Jordan away, then
Sasha is your next backup PG. Unless of course you feel
that Sun Yue is ready to step up and play 15-20 minutes a
game. Do you feel your confidence overflowing when thinking
of the Monkey King running the bench mob?

Gamble #3: You might be giving up a productive asset

(for reference, see Von Wafer from 2008-09 season)

If Von (who was basically the butt of jokes for the Lakers
squads) could be a productive player for a good team like
Houston, Jordan might become a quality starter for a team. I could easily see him playing at the level of Aaron Brooks
or Rafer Alston (I'm not talking CP3 level play, but legit NBA
starter level play).

How would you feel if Jordan led the Knicks into their first
playoff birth in awhile? How would you feel if that happened,
and at the same time, Shannon Brown fell back to his career
averages of 41% shooting and more turnovers than assists?

--------------------------

Here's why the best bet is to keep Jordan Farmar:

+ at less than 2 million for a decent backup PG, he's a bargain

+ with Brown, Farmar, and Fish, you have insurance in case
one of the three gets injured

+ with Brown and Farmar both thinking they have a chance
to be the future starter, they'll both raise their levels of play
to compete for the role

+ This is a contract year for Farmar, so he's got a DOUBLE
incentive to play up to his highest capability

+ Jordan is still better than Shannon or Derek at defending
small, fast PGs.

+ Jordan and Shannon are like ketchup and mustard. They
offer different strengths which allows Phil flexibility to adapt
to different situational needs.

Forget about trading away any players from the rotation,
even the deep rotation (MBenga, Powell). Keep the guys
that got a ring in 2009 (with the one Ariza to Artest upgrade)
and they'll get another ring in 2010.

r the Boston Geriatrics a new poker team?

>>>Take the case of Lamar: The Lakers will be way over the
>>> Luxury Tax threshold this coming season, but in
>>>2010-2011, they'll have some contracts coming off the
>>>books. Can't they offer Lamar $5 million this year and
>>>maybe $11 million the next (it evens out to $8 million per)?

Actually, in Lamar's case, I believe they could do something like
that. But are you assuming the Lakers won't be re-signing Kobe
and Pau in 2011? Those are the big contracts coming off the
books.

Sheed is no steed.

Pierce is not fierce.

Allen has no Talon.

Darn it, we have Garnett

Rondo is no Hondo

Perkins plays like gherkins

Kobe is the finals MVP - I should know, I presented him the trophy.

Puddle

"No, the Lakers should NOT reduce whatever offer they have already offered. that would truly be insulting."

I undertsand. Players always say this is about business.

But is the risk Lamar has to take as well. When he got the offer he shoold have taken it right away. Now the level of play has changed.

3 yrs - 25 Mil ... That's still 8 mil per year for somebody who has no other offer, EQUALS 16 MIL with luxury taxes. He obviuosly waited to see what is on the market. He would have left if he got any thing higher. His gamble lost.

I am just saying how much is he really worth right now? Next week? Next year? Numbers please and why? Let's forget the Lakers already has an offer on the table. With the current situation, how much are you willing to offer LO? How much is he worth with no NBA teams around to take him.

2009-2010
2010-2011
2011-2012

It`s GuaranSHEED!!!!

Posted by: RED`S LOVE CHILD | July 10, 2009 at 06:02 PM

SHEED....A 3 POINT SHOOTING BIG. BWAHAHAHA!!!! YA THAT'S TOUGH!! BWAHAHAHA!!!

HEY, YOU HAVE THE BLACK ILGAUSKAS!! THAT'S WHO SHEED IS, THE LOUD, BLACK ILGAUSKAS!! BWAHAHA!!!!

BWAHAHA, KEEP POSTING THAT THOSE FUNNY GUARANTEES, I COMMAND YOU!!!

I actually don't care about the Celtics nor the east. They have a lot to figure out over there. Celtics are probably the class of that conference, but I don't think any of those contenders have the coaching to beat a Western Conference foe in 7 games.

Pop, Jackson, even George Karl can out think and out smart Doc, Van Panic, and Mike Brown. The only way they can win is with talent, athleticism, and skill against the West team, which is a tough proposition considering Shaq, Pierce, Allen, KG, Sheed, are all well over 30 and Dwight doesn't have enough game to be a real threat.

The Lakers core are at their peak ages, the Spurs have older role players, but Manu and Parker are peaking as well, and Denver's not even close to being old. By virtue of these facts, the West is going to have a stronger contender.

The mistake the Lakers won't make is the one the Celtics did however. The Celtics were at full throttle trying to keep up with the Cavs this year, and KG's knees were the victim. Blame Doc, blame them for buying into the final game of a series that went 6 games. The Lakers will win games, but not at the expense of their players health.

Red's Love Child -

"World Champion Boston Celtics :

2009-2010
2010-2011
2011-2012

It`s GuaranSHEED!!!!""

Care to place a friendly wager on that prediction?

AK/BK

Do you know if the Lakers picked up Sun Yue's option?

Oh and Smush Parker was playing for Toronto's summer league team.... yuck

LTLF,

Sun Yue can run the benhc mob, he has already played in some important games in his young career, not in the NBA but for his national team. Remember his light bulb is 1 year behind the rest of the team, and the team's bulb only turned on during the end of the Denver seriers. He has alot to adjust to, but give him the same amount of patience that we gave the "Machine"......and we may have a player who will totally disrupt the opponent in matchups. Versatility is the key attribute to this Laker team. Let's keep it that way. Magic Johnson and Scottie Pippen, your student is waiting.(I know Pippen's probably too hooked into the Bulls to give anymore coaching ti Laker players, like the time I saw him in the Hawaii training camp, Kwame and Smush's first years....Pippen was coaching Lamar......It's too bad he wasn't offered a permaanent position with the Lakers back then......

I think a delegate from this blog needs to talk to Lamar.

On another note, with the score 54-33 in Game 7 against Houston with 9:27 left on the clock, Ariza gets the ball at the top of the key right at the 3 point line, and drives the ball past his defender, stops, does a stutter step move that I had to drool over, and lays it in at the rim! Then, also in the 3rd quarter, with 5:56 left on the clock he gets a pass from Bryant in the corner (after Kobe works a priceless block on Scola at the rim!). Ariza does a head fake, half drives to the rim, and then delivers a perfect lob pass to Bynum for a dunk.

OH MY !! I was off the couch yelling and doing victory laps all over my living room!! Sleepers be damned, neighbors be damned!

Anyhoo, the game film begs to differ with this stuff about Ariza not creating his own shot nor creating assists for other players.

In my extreme Laker jones, been watching the games over and over. Which I highly recommend! You learn a lot each time through the games.

Hurray for THE LAKERS! Champs baybe Champs!!

doug

Is anyone worried about how silently the Spurs are Loading their roster. They picked up Antonio McDyse, and Jefferson to go along with Timmy, Manu, Parker, Gooden, Mason and Bonner. Boy the spurs are what their name implies. They are a pain in our side. Any thoughts. I woas hoping they would fade into the sunset like Phoenix with age creeping up on them. I guess from when I can remember the spurs have always been competitive.

CrzyFan

Red's "Child" of the Lower Intestinal Variety,

>>>2009-2010
>>>2010-2011
>>>2011-2012
>>>
>>>It`s GuaranSHEED!!!!

That's awesome news, RCotLIV. Because, you know what
happened the last time Sheed guaranteed something? His
team lost by two to Cleveland.

So I guess we won't be seeing the Celtics in the finals for
the next three years. We'll have to settle for beating Orlando
and Cleveland (and who knows, maybe Washington) to add
three more titles.

Those who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it.

>>>if Millsap goes to Portland
>>>and boozer goes to Chicago
>>>will LO go to UTAH? kinda jazzy there

Not likely. Utah is borderline luxury tax (I don't recall if they're
just a bit over the line or a bit under the line). They were trying
to trade Boozer to free up some cap space so they could re-sign
Millsap and not go too deep into luxury tax.

First of all, the most they could offer Lamar would be MLE.
Maybe if Utah wanted to trade Boozer for a signed and traded
Lamar at 9 million, that would help their ability to keep Millsap,
but I doubt Boozer would be as helpful to the Lakers as Lamar
was.

But your post gave me an idea for a trade - the whole idea
of the Boozer-Hinrich deal was for Portland to absorb some
cap space for Utah so they could re-sign Millsap.

The Lakers can't offer quite as much cap space as Portland,
but, they could offer a little cap space if it means an upgrade
at the point...

Lakers send Farmar and Sun Yue to Chicago
Lakers send Adam Morrison to Utah

Utah sends Boozer to Chicago

Chicago sends Tyrus Thomas to Utah
and...

Chicago sends Kirk Hinrich to the Lakers.

Chicago gets the scoring PF they want in Boozer, and also
get a replacement PG for Hinrich

Utah gets a replacement backup PF (Thomas), an expiring
contract (Morrison), and 2.6 million in cap space toward
re-signing Millsap.

The Lakers get an upgrade at the PG spot, and only give
up one player from the core rotation of players (e.g. this
trade is effectively Farmar for Hinrich to them).

The caveat for the Lakers is that it puts them 2 million MORE
over the luxury tax. BUT (and it's a big but), Hinrich's contract
is structured to go down year over year. So while the salaries
of Kobe and Pau and Bynum (and Luke and whoever) are
increasing, Hinrich would go down in salary for the next
couple of years to balance things out.

And then after re-signing Lamar, the Lakers would look like this:

PG: Hinrich, Fisher, Brown
SG: Kobe, Brown, MACHINE
SF: Artest, Luke, MACHINE
PF: Pau, Odom, Powell
C: Bynum, Pau, MBenga

but dave m...

Good point. You know Dr Buss is a big gambler. What if he
and Lamar made a bet on something. Like Buss could bet
Lamar 6 million dollars that he wouldn't re-sign for a contract
averaging 7 million a year for 3 years (with a player option for
a fourth year maybe).

That money wouldn't be contract money, noooooo. It would
just be a bet between two gentlemen. And I'm sure Dr Buss
would pay off his gambling debt when Lamar signed the next
day. :-)

The NBA would NEVER notice something like that.

Jordan Farmar was eliminated during day 3 and thus did not cash in the 2009 WSOP Main Event.

I looked at the results end of day 3, a few other Jordans, but no Farmar (no MJ either).

Has this been posted yet? This doesn't surprise me, I think Artest in LA is going to be... very... entertaining...

http://tinyurl.com/l2lpln

Here’s Bucher’s exact comments (audio link) on ESPN Radio Wednesday night: “Based on the behind-the-scenes stories that I’ve heard in Houston, and the innuendo, we just didn’t hear about stuff. It’s not that Artest has changed his stripes.
“They (Rockets) simply did a good job of not letting it become public.”

Do they have oxygen in boston? If i was going to base my understanding of bostonians by the celtics fans I have seen so far, I'm not sure how they get dressed in the morning, let alone know how to translate these little black pixel thingeys on a white background into language.

yeah, you heard me. You guys are dumb. How dumb? You got stuck on an escalator in a blackout. You rented the first floor of a two story outhouse. When you saw a sign on the highway that said airport left, you went home disapointed. Hell, you're so dumb you actually think we care. WE WON!

If those black pixels don't make sense, please put your ear up close to the screen and listen better. WE WON! Do you need to hear that again? Cause i'm not gonna get tired of typing it. WE WON! (am I fatigued? no, I'm feeling even more invigorated. WE WON! wow, that feels good. I bet no fan of any other nba team knows what that feeling is like right now. Cause, you know, they didn't win.

Nous avons gagne

我们赢取了

Wij wonnen

Wir gewannen

私達は勝った

Ganamos

I could go on and on, but I know even won, sorry, one language is hard enough for you guys. Hey, I might go on anyway. I don’t have anything else to do, besides sit here and notice how much WE WON!

Did you notice WE WON? I have one chocolately cookie right here. One chocolately cookie for WE WON! Man, I think I might be getting tired. I think I might need a wheelchair, I’m so tired. Oh wait, no I don’t. I can keep going like this. You be sure to let me know if you need me to. Oh, by the way, do you know what all those words in other languages up there mean? Are you sure? Cause I could tell you.

phred,

Who won? Say that again. Who won?

Tom

It's only one game, but Ben McCauley put up some impressive stats in Summer League. Better than Adam Morrison, who also did pretty well.

What do we play for? RINGS!!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!!!!

Can we please now sign Lamar Odom?

Please.

What do we play for? RINGS!!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!!!

"The Lakers are gonna renounce their rights to Amino? He is averaging 20+ this year. He is gonna have a breakout season. San Antonio better get Bowen back to guard him. Lakers should score about 125 pts per this year.

How good are the Lakers gonna be?

Now that all the GMs in the league watched that first summer league game ... they must be calling Mitch to check if Amino is available. Maybe the Lakers can package Amino, Sasha and Farmer and pick up CP3. Im sure the Hornets will have to throw in a #1 to get it done.

Cant wait for LOL to go Club Ced.

Posted by: 131-92 | July 11, 2009 at 10:24 AM "

131,
We all know you're a Celtics (Miopic) homer. But generally your posts at least make SOME sense. I dunno about this one.

I never said Morrison was gonna make an impact this year OR next year. I was saying we could get out of the commitment to pay him NEXT year by simply not making him a qualifying offer.

HOWEVER, wouldn't it suck to be you if he can make ANY impact? I mean come on, we already have an embarrassment of riches.

I have full confidence in Jerry Buss. He will do whatever is necessary to bring back Lamar thus enabling me to continue with my complete confidence that the Celtics will remain irrelevant. Yes, you heard me and I have no doubts about this. (I know you feel the same...The Celts are outclassed).

In the worst case scenario, if for whatever reason Buss has something else in mind than bringing back Lamar (some kind of 3 team trade for a point guard or something else unforeseen) I STILL have complete confidence in any OTHER new configuaration of the Lakers.

See, Buss is getting old. You think he wants to leave the scene without destroying you this year? Think of it. The "OLD THREE" getting absolutely PUNKED in head to head meetings this upcoming year and us PRAYING the "old 3" make the finals so we can give you what you deserve. All this after your big Sheed signing.

I'm still waiting for you to tell me which Celtics blog you go to. I want to go there to visit because I think I can offer the Celts fans a more balanced look at things. YOU are clearly over the top in your view of the Celts where I could bring a much more grounded view.

Can the summer league games be uploaded to YouTube? I just wanna see what it looks like to have Ammo out on the court running around, instead of sitting there on the bench in his buzz, all prim and proper. Mentally, I can't do it - I need a picture! I'd settle for an Ammo hilight reel !! Who's got the goods?

doug

So, a friend of mine is visiting Boston for a vacation ( He's not a huge basketball fan, but he does follow the Lakers) And one of the tour guides was bragging about how the Lakers were destroyed....last year. My friend piped up and asked how the Celtics and Lakers fared THIS year...and the guide mumbled something about selective memory. I applauded him for fighting the good fight in enemy territory.

JohnnyV,

How am I miopic? I thought we could win last year and we didnt. The reason I felt that was because we were the World Champions and we beat YOU! Yet you lost to us and you still thought you were better.

So I ask you ... who is myopic? Me for thinkiing we were better after beating you or you for thinking you were better after losing to us?

How would you feel if Orlando fan comes here and tell you they are better than you after you just beat them?

And if I am myopic ... looks like I found the right place to fit in.

Regarding your neverending desire to chat with me on a Celtic blog ... Do it here. On your home turf. I dont care about what they say in Celtic blogs cuz its the same garbage as it is here except it favors the Celtics. Some 13th player off the bench scores 20pts in summer league game and KG better rush back cuz he gonna lose his starting spot. Dont need to waste my time. Besides arguing with them is arguing against my own team ... I rather save my energy for Laker fan.

Laker fan,

Great poll question on NBA.com! Great picture right next to it too. Dont let the results scare you.

Cant wait to see Bynum defending out at the 3 point line!

On second thought ... I cant wait to see Shaq out defending the 3pt line!

Yes...24 points by Adam Morrison is nice, but we need to know if he has his mobility back, or if he was the stiff who labored to get up and down the court last year. I want this guy to make a comeback as a Laker....he could be a cog component in the post FIsh/later Kobe years....the good thing for the Lakers is that the injury he suffered lowered his value, so if he recovers and it reaches the point that the Lakers want to resign him, they are not resigning a former 3rd pick in the draft, but they would be resigning a player with question marks still, as next year, I'm fairly sure he will not take over the team, and become the centerpiece.

By the way, when will the talk eventually start that Greg Oden (Benjamin Button) was a bust as the top draft pick, and that he will never be more than what he has shown to date. I don't believe that he has had quality runs such as our Bynum. It's a team game, with intermittent outburst by individuals...

Here is the quote....Phil almost got it right on one tape, kudos, because to memorize this along with all the other things going on, I give him credit, I saw an NBA clip and I noticed he erred, so I looked it up...

"Now this is the Law of the Jungle -- as old and as true as the sky;
And the Wolf that shall keep it may prosper, but the Wolf that shall break it must die.
As the creeper that girdles the tree-trunk the Law runneth forward and back --
For the strength of the Pack is the Wolf, and the strength of the Wolf is the Pack."

Rudyard Kipling
From The Law of the Jungle

Me, I'm trying to memorize "Blue Skies" by Irving Berlin, don't ask why, don't slam me....
...here's a part....

"Never saw the sun shining so bright
Never saw things going so right
Noticing the days hurrying by
When you're in love, my how they fly"

....and by the way, Lamar, if you go to Portland, you will hate it, because you will see blue in the sky maybe once every 1.5 months during the fall/winter...I'm not talking about an entire blue sky, I'm talking about a speck of blue, peeking thru the clouds....and Lamar is an emotional person, and the Portland weather will drag him down......If the Laker's are offering you 8, take it, and a word of advice to the Laker's when he agrees to 8, give him 8.1. People need to feel appreciated and that will show the separation between business and respect.

131,
Orlando said the same thing to us regarding the 3 point line. They CRUSHED your hopes on your home floor and we beat them soundly. The only thing that would have been better is to have beaten your Celts. But they broke our hearts and chose the wise route by losing that last game.

Come on, come back to the finals so we can settle this. You beat us last time pretty soundly and my hat's off to you. Of course, you never take into consideration that Bynum was completely out, Ariza was half his normal self (and new with us) and Gasol was a new Laker as well.

That championship will have to last you for many years unless you want to lay it on the line against us this year. I say your chances are 1 in 10 that you can beat us.

I hope you are healthy all year and I hope we are healthy all year. I would love to see us beat you like a red headed (no pun inteded Red) stepchild.

Kupchak's being patient, allowing Jeff Schwartz the time to shop Lamar for a better deal. Normally you'd put a window of time on your offer but there's a long relationship with Lamar. The real question is whether L.A. would get into ay kind of bidding situation if Portland were to make an offer. At the end of the day, I don't think it will come down to that. I don't think Portland will jump in. Lakers will probably sweeten Lamar's deal with incentives and it will get done.

131-92,

Nothing you can say will change the fact that your team did not make the Finals (our team made the Finals two years in a row, unlike your team) and that the Lakers won the Championship this year in five games (unlike your team which took six games and some self-sabotaging by the Lakers to win).

Nothing you can say will change the fact that the Lakers are the favorites to win the Championship next year.

So go ahead. Insult us.

And we'll go ahead enjoying rooting for our Lakers and watching them win.

Loser.

What do we play for? RINGS!!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!!!!!

I'm bored waiting for the next great Laker thing to happen. Geeez....has it only been 3 days?

So I went to the dictionary to look up a term that keeps coming to mind. here goes:

my·o·pia

1 : a condition in which the visual images come to a focus in front of the retina of the eye resulting especially in defective vision of distant objects (the "old 3's" need for glasses this year while sizing up the hoop that seems farther away than it used to).

2 : a lack of foresight or discernment : a narrow view of something (any celtic blogger that comes here thinking they still matter and that they have a shot this year while drawing sustenance from the "1 and done" championship they got in 2008).

131-92,

The reason you don't go on the Celtics blog is because your name is Butler and you are, in fact, a Suns fan. Something you are embarassed about now knowing that your team is going to suck for years after years of boasting how amazing your team is and will be.

By the way, Butler, you lost the bet and yet you didn't fulfill your component of the agreement. This makes you a coward, a liar, and a cheat.

Get a life.

What do we play for? RINGS!!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!!!!

Anyone else hear about Nike and Lebron confiscating a video that shows King Crab being dunked on at a summer camp? Apparently they didn't want it leaked. Can anyone confirm or deny this? I heard a sound bite on Sports Central this afternoon.

Dallas Raines Hair,

Yup. That agent is the worst agent and I'm betting Trevor and Bynum and all the members of the Ariza and Bynum fan clubs now truly regret having David Lee as their agent.

Though to be fair to Bynum fans and Bynum jockers alike like what LTLF if the Lakers didn't pony up David Lee would have gone on a beserker mode and forced Bynum away from LA and would have taken Trevor along with him.

That don't mean Bynum isn't overpaid because quite frankly he is especially for a guy who only shows flashes of potential rather than true consistency.

I'm just glad Mitch had a back bone and stood up to David Lee. Time to make that dude realize that hardball negotiations isn't going to win him more money.

AMMO is getting hot.. he is raining three pointers !!

LGFI

Whattup party people!

LAMAR WATCH 2009 still in progress.......

waiting...............

waiting...............

I'm seriously losing it over here.

WHAT THE HELL is going on with him??? And the Front Office???

This is more nerve-wracking than waitng for the next game of the Finals was.

JY - lots of stuff on YouTube - check under Jordan Crawford - that's the kid's name who did it. HOWEVER - you will not find video of this dunk as YES it was pulled by Princess Jimmy herself (rumor has it). Poor Princess Jimmy. You can't lose out on getting to the Finals AND get dunked on by a kid in your camp - both in the same year - without suffering a nervous breakdown - CAN YOU?? I mean - how much can a little girl take?

I love this part:

"Lamar Odom: His agent has been desperately trying to find a sign-and-trade around the league, but there’s little there but the Lakers’ offer of $7 million per season. Odom had a terrific playoffs and Finals on L.A’s championship run, but he has few options to make the Lakers raise their offer. Why has Portland so far sat it out with him? It still makes no sense."

So the rat (Lamar) is trying to get a sign and trade from the Lakers? You could feel this coming from a mile away. Odom’s true colors are showing thru his championship purple. Lamar wants to be paid as the first or second option on a team but doesn't have 1/10,000,000,000th of the drive that a franchise player needs. He finally (only) found success with the Lakers as not the 1st option (Kobe), not the 2nd option (Gasol), not the 3rd option (Ariza), not the 4th option (Fisher), not the 5th option (Bynum), but the 6th option on this team.

I'm so sick of Lamar right now and his greed it's making me ill. Take your sign and trade and your ugly 1930's-like gangster top lip (yes, his top lip bugs me) and hit the road jack.

I think this isn't about the money as much at this point as it is about Lamar running from the limelight. He got his ring, and now he wants to coast the rest of his career. All I can say, is THANK GOD we only want him as the 5th or 6th option because he couldn't even sniff out leadership qualities if it was stuck to the bottom of his shoe like some dog $#!%.

Get your head on straight, Lamar, before you find out that your bus fare out of town is a good, swift kick in your ...

Really. Someone explain why Lamar is looking for a sign and trade when LA offered him 7 mil per? Is he that greedy? I don’t think so. The past has shown that Lamar doesn’t have the psychological makeup (intelligence?) to be part of a sustained championship run and I think—I believe—he wants out the limelight.

I still want Lamar, but he’s really turning me off as a fan.

Wes

wes - i'm usually in agreement with you about stuff but not your last post. his agent's just doing what agents do but at least he's not blasting it to the press. lamar has steadily become a better player for us ... while his consistency and effort could have been questioned earlier in his career, he's now found a productive comfort zone. the sign and trade stuff is just part and parcel of free agency. i really think it will all work out in the end. if he can motivate a a few extra bucks out of buss, then why not. as far as i know, he's not asking for the moon, or even anywhere near his most recent quote.

i think a deal will be in place in the next couple days. at least i'm hoping!!!

Wes,

That article pissed me off, too. I'm getting impatient, but I'm not ready to write off Odom just yet. Remember, he is a very, very emotional person. These kinds of people just need more time to process life/stuff.

Still, If he ends up dragging this out past July, my opinion of him will start to tank. Like Mitch said, this can't go on forever.

Lamarwatch, day 10. Still no sign of him. Kinda feels like the regular season.

Around day 14 he should sign. Yeah. Sounds about right.

If LO is looking for 10 mil (and seriously, who's gonna pony up that kinda scratch for a dude who's really not a difference maker and shows up about 1/3 of the time anyway), then a sign-n-trade is probably out of the question anyway.