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Postgame comments from Phil Jackson, Lamar Odom, Pau Gasol, Derek Fisher

You wanted the postgame transcripts.  You got the postgame transcripts.  People pleasers we are here at Lakers Blog.

PHIL JACKSON

      Q. Should we call you Dr. Coach Phil Jackson now with this great accomplishment or some other accolade?
      PHIL JACKSON:  No, it's just fine just the way it is, thank you.

      Q.  Your team started strong, they stayed strong with the Jazz, then Houston, then Denver and now you've finished strong winning the championship in Orlando.  Talk about the strength of yourself and the team.
      PHIL JACKSON:  We went into the playoffs and we thought that we'd helped ourselves by getting Andrew Bynum back again to give us some depth at the interior part of our game, shot‑blocking, rebounding, size‑wise, and we came into Utah, Utah played us the last game of the season, so we had a look at them.  They lost Okur, one of their steady ball players, one of the few three‑point shooters for centers in the league, and it changed up how we were able to play that series a little bit and got ourselves through that series quickly.  That was a benefit for us. 

      Houston was a different story altogether.  They were fast, they were very driven, team‑ball play, they did a good job in spacing out the court, getting accomplished what they wanted to do.  They had two defenders to throw at Kobe in Artest and Battier, and so they were a really worthy opponent, pushed us to seven games.  I thought that really made us the team that we got to be in the playoffs.  We understood what we had to get accomplished, and we did the job from that time forward, played good basketball.
       Denver was physical and quick.  They're an elite team.  They played extremely well at the end of the year, and we were able to come back after a 2‑2 start in that series and finish them off.
       This obviously was a game we expect tonight, to be honest with you.  I thought we'd have to struggle a little bit.  We got a run in the second period and were able to get some distance and play our game from then on.

    Q.  I asked you before the game tonight about the historic aspects of it, and I know you were a bit reluctant to talk about that.  Can you take a step back now?  You have done something no coach has everPhil Jackson, trophy done, won more championships than any coach in NBA history.  What does that mean to you?  And can you talk about the historical significance of it?
    PHIL JACKSON:  I can, but I'd like to say that it's really about the players; it's about Kobe Bryant, about Derek Fisher's leadership of the team.  I tried to take them through some of the build‑up things that we had to do last year as a basketball club.  They came together this year and were self‑motivated, and for a coach that's always a positive sign.  When a team is ready, they're aggressive, their learning curve is high, and they wanted to win.  I've always felt as a coach you have to push your team, and I told them they had to push themselves.  I wasn't at the stage of my life where I could get out and do the things that I had done 10 years ago or 15 years ago to push a team.  And they pushed themselves, and I really feel strongly that this is about them.
    However, having won ten championships is a remarkable accomplishment, there's no doubt about it.  Watching those games clicked down, and a championship of all different forms and fashions, on the road, at home, players that vault themselves into team play is a remarkable thing to have watched.
    I think I've always said this before, the journey is what's really important, and it's important for the players and the coaches to watch these kids come together and form a unit and be supportive of each other, and this was no exception, this team.

    Q.  On a night you passed Red Auerbach, would it be hard for you to not think of your Coach Red Holzman in the days leading up to this?  And would you imagine he probably would really enjoy watching you pass the other Red?
    PHIL JACKSON:  Well, he took a lot of pride in his coach Les Harrison, who coached the Rochester Royals.  I was at the Hall of Fame induction at one point for Walt Frazier, and the two of them came over and said, "You know, you're really our grandson.  You're his father and I'm his father, so you're really my grandson."  Harrison was obviously one of the founders of the NBA and a great basketball coach in his own right.
    So there's a legacy that came that direction with me.  But I've had a lot of people that have supported me.  Tex Winter, obviously, who's back in Portland recovering from a stroke, and obviously my college coach Bill Fitch, who's a big strong supporter of me over the years, have all been very important in my coaching career.

    Q.  You've never gone this long between championships.  Does that make it a little more important, maybe impressive in your book?
    PHIL JACKSON:  Well, I was in Australia, and the Lakers made a coaching change, Jeannie Buss called me up and asked me to come back and take the team at that particular moment, and I said, "No, I couldn't do that.  That's just not fair to the team, ,it's not fair to the players and myself."  I said that I'd have to think about it a long time because this team is quite a ways from a championship even though Kobe Bryant always gives you a chance to win.
    So over the next two and a half months I spent some time thinking about it and rekindling my energy to come back and coach, but when I came back I didn't anticipate we'd win.  I'd be part of it.  I thought maybe I'd build the steps to a winning team, but I didn't think I'd be part of it, and this is much quicker than I thought it would happen.

    Q.  You talked about how it was all about the journey.  Your journey with Kobe Bryant has gone a long ways from his being a young player.  He talked about it after he won, you grow as a man and you grow as a person.  How much have you seen on your journey with him together?
    PHIL JACKSON:  Well, there was a point in Kobe's first, second year when we sat together and watched tape.  I wanted him to understand his impact on the game a little bit and my feeling about his impact on the game.  We had a game in Toronto, and he had gotten hooked up with Vince Carter in the middle of the fourth quarter and they kind of exchanged baskets, and I thought it took our team out of their team play, and the game was much harder than it should have been.  So I talked to him a little bit about leadership and the quality and his ability to be a leader, and he said, "I'm ready to be a captain right now," and I said, "but no one is ready to follow you."  He was 22 at the time.  He was a young guy.
    In those eight years that have ensued from that period, he's learned how to become a leader in a way in which people want to follow him, and I think that's really important for him to have learned that, because he knew that he had to give to get back in return, and so he's become a giver rather than just a guy that's a demanding leader, and that's been great for him and great to watch.

    Q.  Along those same lines, would you say that the second quarter was kind of representative of that during that stretch when you pulled away, three assists in that span?  Is that kind of what you're talking about there?
    PHIL JACKSON:  Yes, there was just that little feel there in the game where they were vulnerable and we took advantage of it.  Kobe was the thrust that created shots for guys and the opportunities for guys on the floor.  That was really our chance, and we said at halftime, we get another opportunity like that, we have this game in hand if we can just crack one more three‑minute span like that and create some turnovers and run‑outs and do it again.  Kobe said, "I'll push the guys and I'll find guys if you guys run the court."

PAU GASOL AND LAMAR ODOM

    Q. How much does this mean to you, returning from last year, to come to the top and win it all this year? Pau trophy
    PAU GASOL:  Well, it's a dream.  It's a dream come true.  The completion of a goal, it feels amazing.  It's definitely a victory, it's a triumph that we've been working so hard for, and personally I appreciated so much and I value so much, and it's such a huge accomplishment for so many people that we're just extremely proud of ourselves right now.  We're just happy and excited.  We're going to go crazy a little bit, and we're looking forward to that.  But it's just been so much work that we put into this to make this happen today, and we love each other.  We're a great group, we're a great team, and this is amazing.

    Q.  Lamar, how about you?  What does it mean for you to finally win a championship?
    LAMAR ODOM:  I guess everything.  I've known what I wanted to do since I was ten years old, nine years old, and to finally get here and accomplish it is a dream come true.

    Q.  Talk about your journey from being a kid watching the Olympics in Barcelona in '92 with the Dream Team, and then we've been watching you when you were an 18‑ and 19‑year‑old, and then going through Memphis and now accomplishing this as the first Spanish player winning the championship.
    PAU GASOL:  Well, the journey is what makes it so special and so beautiful.  I had to work really hard throughout my career and started off as a kid in Spain just loving to play basketball, not trying to really become a professional, but I really started to be really good and I was very ambitious and competitive.  So I started really, I don't know, becoming a really, really good player.
    Then I got to the NBA, and it was really hard, also, the adjustment, and six and a half years in Memphis were tough as a professional, also personally because I don't take losing very tightly and I hate losing and it was affecting my person.  But the day that I was traded I couldn't believe it.  It was such a beautiful day for me, and then also I think the Lakers were pretty happy with it, too.
    LAMAR ODOM:  I guess so (laughing).
    PAU GASOL:  From that point on, it's just been another amazing journey and adventure.  To be able to get to this point today is hard to describe and put in small sentences because it's so amazing what we accomplished, it feels so good, and hopefully a lot of people enjoy this.

    Q.  Last season I know it was a difficult series for you all in Boston.  Talk about what you all gained from that experience, and now that you're here and that you've won, talk about what it means that you're maybe able to erase some of the doubts that were put out there about you last year?
 Lamar Odom, fist clenched    LAMAR ODOM:  That's exactly what it was, it was an experience, and usually experience makes you better at whatever it is, whether it's on or off the court.  We set a goal early in the training camp and that was to win the NBA championship.  Every time we came in as a group, we left that group by saying "one, two, three, ring."  We set a goal and we attained it.
    PAU GASOL:  Last year's experience, I think it made us tougher, it made us grow as a team, and we all were hurt by it.  We were very disappointed that we lost against Boston.  They showed that they were more ready than we were at the time.  But it really made us want it even more than we did last year, and it got us to this point.  We worked so hard from the beginning as a team and as individuals, too, to be able to be successful in the playoffs at the top level.  So it just makes it all the more rewarding, and the way we went through last year, it just makes it so much more worth it.

    Q.  Knowing that both of you guys have been traded during your career and knowing that those teams didn't want you to now be champions, talk about that.
    LAMAR ODOM:  First of all, I got traded for Shaq.  He got traded for Kwame Brown to the Lakers.
    It was a blessing.  We were fortunate.  Everything happens for a reason.  This was the reason.  It hurt to ‑‑ I'm not going to lie, it hurt to get traded from Miami and then have to watch them win a championship, but I felt like my time would come.  The Lakers got better and better and better, and then we got one of the best players in history in this guy.  We knew that we were going to be competing for a championship.  We're both fortunate at the end of the day.

    Q.  Last summer in Beijing Kobe and the U.S. beat you guys in the gold medal game.  Ten months later you're together on a podium sharing a championship.  What kind of teammate has Kobe been during that run?  And what has this meant to the fans back in Spain?
    PAU GASOL:  Yeah, last summer it was tough.  It was kind of weird to go against each other at the Olympics.  We had a chance to play each other twice.  First time they really kicked our butt, second time we were able to compete better as a team.  But yeah, it was tough.  Kobe doesn't have any friends on the floor when he's playing against somebody else.  That's just the way it is.  He's such a great competitor, he wants to win no matter what, no matter who he's playing.  It would be the same if it was his brother.  He would still try to destroy him, really.  That's just the way it is.  He wants to win that bad.
    He's our leader.  I think he's very aggressive on the floor, he carries a lot of weight.  He loves to do that.  You know, I think as teammates we understand what kind of player he is, what he brings to the table, and we try to complement each other.  I think what we've been doing well this year is understanding what our roles were, what our abilities are out there as individuals and make it work as a team.  It really worked out well.  I think we all understood how to play this game together and to take us to this championship.

    Q.  Talk about getting ready to celebrate and a parade and all that stuff.  And Kobe was saying last year just how tough LA can be, the fans.  They still bring up what happened, what happened.  Now you don't have to go through that this year.
    LAMAR ODOM:  Well, they expect to win.  They're spoiled a little bit.  That's the tradition of the franchise is to win.  That's what makes us better.
    We'll have a good time away from basketball and then it'll be time to get back to work.  It's June?
    PAU GASOL:  14th.
    LAMAR ODOM:  In October we'll try to get right back at it to try to get here again.  The focus is there, our town expects it, and that's what pushes us, helps us strive for perfection.

    Q.  Before the game I was talking to you about what it would mean and it became a little bit emotional for you, you had tears in your eyes talking about it.  Now that it's happened, can you talk about what this means in your heart?  You've had struggles, personal struggles and bad luck struggles and now you're a champion.  What does this mean?
    LAMAR ODOM:  Going through ups and downs and experiencing death and birth and everything, that's a part of life.  Everyone goes through it.  I never felt bad for myself or asked the question "why me?"  It was just my story.  I wouldn't be Lamar Joseph Odom if it didn't happen to me.
    I've always seen this coming, my day.  When I was going to say I was NBA champion.  It's finally here, and it's great.  It's overwhelming.  I felt it as we were coming in today.  I knew we were going to win this game.
   

DEREK FISHER

Q. Talk about the maturation process for Kobe Bryant.  You've been with him from draft day probably.  Has he really become a leader?  Phil was talking earlier about now people are following him as opposed to in the past.  What did you see?
    DEREK FISHER:  He's grown.  He's grown up.  He's doing everything that we could ever ask him to do Derek Fisher, Kobe, trophy in terms of leading the team and performance on the court, during the games, in practice, and like you stated, trying to be the type of guy that guys will follow as opposed to just dominating performances by himself and then expecting everyone to catch up to him.  He's really done an unbelievable job getting everybody to believe and buy into what we were trying to do this year.
    Last year we almost did it, but we had to wait a long year.  We're back here now, and Kobe is at the top of the list of all people that deserves a lot of the credit for what's going on right now.

Q.  What's the biggest difference between last year's team and this year's team?
    DEREK FISHER:  I think last year's experiences helped us a lot this year, the change in our team last season with the trade to get Trevor Ariza, the trade to get Pau Gasol, those are things that happened during the season, and even though we had a lot of success, obviously making it to The Finals, I don't know if we really knew who we were.  Even though we were in The Finals against the Celtics, I don't know, when we were put in a position where we had to dig deep, find out who you are and what you're made of, I don't know if we knew each other that way.  From training camp this year, to experience every practice, every bus ride, every plane ride with the same group, I think that really separated us from last season's team to this year's team.

Q.  Tell us about your faith, how it's kept you strong when you were seemingly struggling in the beginning, and then to see these beautiful rainbow three‑pointers just drop through the net.
    DEREK FISHER:  Yeah, a lot of guys in our league are guys that are made strong and are faithful guys, regardless of what their religious beliefs are.  There are a lot of guys in our league that don't necessarily talk about it, don't speak of it, but are really strong in their faith.  That's how a lot of us got here and how we've stayed here is because we've always believed in a higher power and something that was stronger than us that has allowed us to be successful in the position that we're in, to provide for our families.  When we've all gone through the individual struggles, Lamar sitting up here, to lose a child, that's struggle.  I guarantee you it's because of his faith, something higher than him, something stronger than him that has allowed him to continue to believe that life is going to be okay.
    The same goes for me.  When things are down, things are bad, there has to be something that you look to to want to believe that it's going to be better tomorrow.  For me that's always been my faith.  That's the way I was raised.  I believe in the Lord, and I don't necessarily throw it out there all the time, but it's a big part of my life.

Q.  Now that the battle is over, how great is the shout that is on the inside of you, the jubilation?
    DEREK FISHER:  Hard to put into words because it's a team sport, so as great as you feel individually, and you want to shout to the world about how you feel and what you think and what you did, it's really about the accomplishments of this entire team, especially on a night like tonight.  The focus belongs on the whole group.  It's great to see that box not just be Kobe or not just be Phil on the front, to have our entire team on the front of that box.  That's what this has been all about all year.

Lakers celebrate  Q.  Kobe talked about it, Pau and Lamar, the closeness of this team.  Talk about where this championship ranks for you also.
    DEREK FISHER:  Yeah, whatever you want to call it, camaraderie, chemistry, closeness, guys that are just enjoying being around each other, playing with each other, that's a big part of what we've done.  It was a long season to get back to this point to try and be patient enough to wait to have this opportunity to be champions again.  A lot of it was because of how close we were as a group, and I think losing in The Finals last year is what ultimately kind of brought us really close together because we all were in that boat together.

Q.  Was this group closer than your other championship teams?
    DEREK FISHER:  Yeah, I think we were closer because ‑‑ this team is closer because of the combination of guys in terms of their ages and where they are in their careers at this point.  Teams that we were on before with guys like Brian Shaw and Robert Horry and Rick Fox and A.C. Green and Glen Rice, you're talking about guys that were 30, married, families, there was no real need for guys to be 20‑something and hanging out and going to dinner together.  That's not what middle‑aged guys do.  We don't kick it like that, you know?
    You know, with these guys, everybody being early to mid 20s, guys that are still trying to make their spot in this league, earn their contract situation, there was a willingness to learn and be around me, to be around Kobe, to be around other people that they could learn from, listen to.  It's just a special group.  I mean, I think that's why you saw the emotion that you saw tonight.  We didn't act like we expected this to happen.  I mean, we really celebrated like we didn't know this was coming.  It's great.  It's great.

  Q.  Take us back to after you guys lost in Boston, getting on the bus.  What happened on the bus on the way out of the Garden and just the plane ride?  What was going through you guys' minds as things progressively got worse as the night went on?
    DEREK FISHER:  Yeah, in combination with the emotions obviously of losing in The Finals and having our season be over the way it was, to then leave that arena after really having a tough time in the locker room, get on the bus and the fans on the streets were going crazy, as most cities do.  A lot of people approached the bus, throwing rocks at the bus, shaking the bus.  At one point we thought a couple windows were going to crack.  I mean, it was rough.
    We were fortunate to get out of that without obviously anybody being injured on our side, but also there wasn't anybody that was injured by the bus or that got hit or anything, and that's the most important part.
    So once we got back to the hotel that particular night, it was interesting, even though we were really obviously disappointed and angry about what happened, there was almost a shift right at that point to what is it going to take for us to actually do it.  We didn't really sit around the hotel that night, we sat in the lobby of our hotel in the lounge, and we all just kind of talked.  At that moment talking about what is it that we're going to have to do to get this done.
    That's what I remember the most.  The plane ride was long, arduous, painful, but I think it's definitely what set this year in motion.

Q.  How much did you guys talk about The Finals last year and use that as motivation this time around?
    DEREK FISHER:  We didn't talk about it in a day‑to‑day type of fashion, but there were just certain times, certain experiences, certain games where it came up.  There was one regular season game in Washington, D.C., against the Wizards where we had a big lead and allowed the Wizards to come back and we almost lost on a Caron Butler three‑pointer, and after that game we talked about the fact that how dare us lose a game we're leading by 24 points on our home court in The Finals and allow a team to come back and beat us, possibly losing the championship at that point.  Instead of going 2‑2 it's 3‑1.  How dare us be lackadaisical in a regular season game and do the same thing that cost us the championship the year before.
    So it came up in certain situations like that, and it was definitely a very poignant, obvious reminder for a lot of guys, what our purpose was this year.

   Q.  How big this trophy for the fans of the Lakers?  How could you describe that?  It's the 15th trophy, but we all know that every arena you go, there's always Laker fans all over.  How big is this trophy for them?
    DEREK FISHER:  I think it's humongous.  Even though this is the 15th title and the team has been to The Finals 30 times, they're the most spoiled fans probably in basketball.  But there's just a high level of expectation and excitement when teams win a championship.
    For us, that's a big part of the enjoyment is to see the fans in an arena like tonight, when they travel during the regular season, to see the fans support us, and obviously when we get back to Los Angeles tomorrow, it's going to be unbelievably enthusiastic and exciting.
    One thing I will say, though, hopefully tonight it hasn't already happened, but in terms of the way people celebrate or choose to be enthusiastic about what we've done here tonight, rioting, turning over cars, throwing bottles, destroying property, that's not the way ‑‑ when we go out and play and we feel like we're representing the city of LA and we're representing our fans, there's a certain way we feel like we owe them in terms of the support they give us, so we have to do things a certain way.  So for fans, for anybody still watching, if you're not outside causing problems already, I mean, honor this the right way.  We've done this for us, for you, for the city, for southern California, for all Laker fans around the world, and there's a certain way that you should celebrate.  There's a certain way when you win, a certain amount of class, a certain amount of dignity that you should carry, same as when you lose.  But we won tonight, so let's not make it a negative situation with craziness and foolishness.

   Q.  Can you talk about Coach Jackson.  What makes him so special that he's got ten rings?
    DEREK FISHER:  I guess the best way to sum it up would just be that Phil's belief in his players I think far outweighs any other coach that I've played for in terms of his willingness to allow the players to be players and make the plays.  I think there are a lot of coaches that ‑‑ I've never coached before so I don't want to say overcoached or undercoached or over‑whatever, but his willingness to allow things to happen and develop and grow and mature, there are not a lot of coaches in the playoffs and Finals when everything is on the line that will still be playing 9, 10, 11 guys in the rotation, but that's all about the fact that it's everybody on the box in terms of winning the championship.  You don't just play seven people and then the other people just sitting over there and feeling like they're not involved or not a part of what's going on.  I don't know if there are a lot of coaches out there, if any, that trust that he and his staff have done the things in practice every day all season that when the pressure is at its highest point, regardless of who he puts in the game, they're going to get the job done.  I think that's what separates him from everybody.

Q.  Do you see this team being capable of winning more rings in the coming years?
    DEREK FISHER:  I'm surprised you asked.  I've never seen you before, but I'm going to remember you now when you put the pressure on me like that (laughter).
    We obviously have guys that are free agents that it's going to be important to re‑sign in order to start thinking about the future and what this team can accomplish going forward.
    You know, it's easy to shy away from the expectations, but at the point in my career where I am, why run away from it?  We've won a championship tonight, and we're going to enjoy this one and celebrate like we have.  But as athletes and competitors you always think about what can you accomplish next.  We'll see what happens, but definitely when we start training camp next season and we have our ring ceremony at Staples Center the first game of the regular season, our first home game, all thoughts will be on winning another championship.  That's what our season will be about next season, and that just comes with the business.

AK

 
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REPOST - sorry about that. Phred and I seem to have the touch. We post & immediately there's a new thread lol!

Mamba24 - you have a great summer too, man. Glad to hear the retirement talk has been shut down. That was just plain wrong!

I am SOOOOOOOO happy today - nothing can take this smile off my face. Not the haters, not the idiots, not the trolls - NOTHING. THA SHOW is back to where they rightfully belong - can't argue with that fools. I pity the fools. GET OFF MY (OUR) CLOUD!

The Lakers are on top of the NBA mountain - exactly where they should be - for exactly all the right reasons.

I'm just going to bask in this glow for awhile and watch the replay of the game tonight. OOOO what a feeling!

Next up - all the talk about resigning our free agents. It can wait until Kobe & Company get back from summer vacation. I'm sure I'm with the majority in believing this team will come back intact, but again - I'm basking right now so we'll have to talk later LOL!

I TOLD YOU FROM THE BEGINNING:

WE GOT THIS!!!!!!!!

And how sweet it is.

AK,

ALSO..... ARE YOU THE BALD ONE OR THE OTHER BRO

D Fish's response to the question about his faith: There are no words. I may be "The Chaplain", but I don't hold a candle to that guy!

Violator,

I'm The Other One.

AK

but seriously, what did Sasha say? LOL!

Sasha or Mbenga, who gets a full share?

Sasha or Adam Morrison, what about that? Huh?

Sasha + Adam Morrison = $10m in cap space ready to be moved for a draft pick and the savings applied towards keeping Odom and Ariza.

Ok, Sasha gets a full share for that...

wow

I had tears well up reading LO's (and Fish's) comments.

I love these guys.

I'm speechless now....

Thanks AK! There is a lot more interesting stuff in there from everyone than just the "big ol monkey off my back" comment everyone's running with...

Dear Mr. Kobe Bean Bryant,

We would like to offer you our sincerest apologies for the following:

- for doubting you could not win without Shaq
- for trying to diminish the role you played in the 3peat years
- for claiming you cannot make your teammates better
- for being blinded by Shaq's finals MVPs although everyone knows those championships were won in the Western Conference Finals
- for questioning your leadership
- for doubting your will to win
- for blaming you for not being able to win with Smush, Kwame, Brian Cook and Chris Mihm, instead of thanking you for doing the impossible - taking these scrubs to the playoffs in the tough Western Conference
- for questioning your desire to WIN when you demanded a trade
- for thinking you are "uncoachable"
- for calling you selfish after 81, although the team needed all of your points to make a comeback and win the game
- for attacking you personally, and letting my hate for you affect my opinion of you as a basketball player
- for being brainwashed by the biased main stream media baffoons who tried to diminish your legacy
- for exclusively blaming you for the breakup with Shaq
- for declaring LeCrab the King before his time
- for doubting you do not belong in the same class as MJ
- for questing your scowl
- for being a hating fool

We will never doubt you again.

Sincerely,

Kobe Haters Anonymous

i really do not care for the lakers, and did not watch any of the games. the NBA has become a very boring sport, and i say this as a guy who not only played college basketball, but also was a referree in high school... i love the sport, but hate the NBA.

having said all that, i apprecaite this article because it gives people an insight to what it takes to be a team, the steps along the way, and the rewards at the end.

nice article, but i still hate the NBA.

Repost:

I just sent this to Simers:

"Why TJ? Why you hate the Lakers? That you can't outwit Phil Jackson? That Kobe doesn't answer the silly questions you ask during news conferences?

Tell me you do it because that's what the Times wants from you to get more clicks, because no one can be in their daily life, as snide as you are in print."

I know I should be enjoying this day, but I cannot stop thinking in reaching the Finals next year...

This has been my first year following the Finals in this blog. This will certainly not be the last one.

Thanks guys, I did really enjoy it.

Denial is not just a river in Eqypt

I was reading the Boston Globe's sports page to try and figure out who won the NBA championship and I just can't figure it out. After reading the front page I just have a question: Who won the NBA championship?

http://www.boston.com/sports/

Isn't winning an NBA championship news in Boston? While the LA Times no longer rivals the NY Times, it just shows how low the LA TImes would still have to go to go down to the level of most other city's newspapers. The only reference I can find is that there is some sort of "victory melees" going on in LA. No reason why LA is victory meleeing. It does mention that the leprocons are NBA title holders though.

Is Boston like China, Iran, or North Korea or something?

Pathetic. I mean this is offensive even to Bostonians. Whatever we say about that team (and deservedly so), Boston is a nice city and deserves better than that. TJ would be an upgrade to that paper (yes I said it).

Butler...I am leaving for work in 5 minutes...Hurry up son....
How about Kobe starting his contract talks with "Myself Lamar and Trevor would like to play together for seasons to come.How can we get this done Dr Buss?.

AK AND BALD K,

YOU GUYS DID (ARE DOING) A GREAT JOB COVERING THE FINALS, EVEN SAW THE OTHER OTHER ONE ON NBATV, KEEP IT UP YOUR EARNING YOUR KEEP

*
FIRE TJ SIMERS – BANDWAGON
*
(01) RICK FRIEDMAN – OWNER –
(02) TSPHERE – DRIVER - The only person in the background I wouldn't let of the hook is TJ Simers, whose provocation and sardonic but misplaced sense of superiority has no place on the same pages as the blog. The guy is downright ridiculous in ways that even KL coundn't achieve. This quote in today's article is particular pernicious:
(03) PIG – RIDING SHOTGUN - Next time you see him in the hall at the Times offices, do all of us Lakers fans a favor and punch him in the face. Please.
(04) JON K – RABBLE ROUSER - Actually I'd hope we can start a "Fire T.J. Simers" Bandwagon and that AK & BK can personally deliver it to the L.A. TImes management.. T.J. Simers is not a true journalist. He's a narcissistic troll. .J. Simers is mentally ill, but he is a highly functioning mentally ill patient
(05) EDWIN GUECO – COUNSELOR - The LAT sportswriter, T. J. Simers is now using the hate mails as an asset to his article. It is becoming part of his identity in capitalizing negativity as an attraction to his column the "Darth Vader Syndrome."
(06) LAKER TOM – CONCILIATOR - Why read Simers or his ilk when we have you and AK and all of the LA Times Lakers bloggers to say it better with insights that the ESPN-owned sound-bite headline-driven copycat national sports reporters and journalists (yourselves excepted) would never have come up with.
(07) MAMBA24 – COPY BOY – TJ Simmers is a fool, buffoon and a disgrace to the writing profession.
(08) LONGTIMELAKERLOVER - Yeah, TJ has no respect for himself, which is why he feels ok about writing like he does. He's a sad, pathetic, bitter writer.
(09) USAPA - just read TJ Simer's "IIdolatry of Lakers is ludicrous" and as if it wasn't obvious before, it is very obvious now. TJ Simers isn't about reporting sports. TJ Simers is about TJ Simers.
(10) TULLY MOXNESS - Well, so much for my Lakers buzz...TJ Simers puts it all into perspective for me
(11) VINCE MEGHROUNI - Anybody read Simers' article? Is that guy a self-important phony blowhard, or what?
(12) JMAN449 - Maybe Simers has made a very important statement regarding the culture of celebrity and the American "Win at all costs" ethic. Then again, maybe he is just a pompous, self-absorbed jackass like 99% of the Times readers have thought for years. Yeah, probably that. Choke on it Simers!
(13) MASE - He has a schtick (sp?) and as long as he gets people to read his stuff, he'll be kept on. But if he is truly ignored, that's the only way to get him off the radar and move far far away.
(14) VMAN - You're right about TJ. When he shouts fire in the theatre he gets a reaction he undoubtedly wouldn't on an op ed page. Gotta be attractive to the TImes, stuck trying to manage a dying business model.
(15) JUSTANOTHERMAMBAFAN - The Times needs to fire his azz - what a moron. What a fool. What a hater. What a loser. I could go on but you get my drift.
(16) MIROSLAVA - can't wait for grumpy old men 3 starring TJ simers!
(17) JAY - Let' all boycott this LA Times writer for shaming the home team that we all love. T.J. Simers find a city to love, cause we sure as heck don't love you.
(18) LARON THE PROPHET OF DOOM - But what the hell is wrong with TJ Simers, is he bitter or what? Maybe he should go write for the Boston Globe.
(19) PIG -Why TJ? Why you hate the Lakers? That you can't outwit Phil Jackson? That Kobe doesn't answer the silly questions you ask during news conferences?
Tell me you do it because that's what the Times wants from you to get more clicks, because no one can be in their daily life, as snide as you are in print."

LAKER FANS OR SHALL WE SAY "HOOLIGANS" RESPONSIBLE for a SHAMEFUL ACT:

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2009/06/sneaker-store.html


I SAY NO MO PARADE, AS THIS TOWN DOES NOT DESERVE A CELEBRATION AND LACKS CLASS!!

Shame,

I am embarrassed that some Lakers Fans would do this...

Congratulation Lakers and Laker fans! Great day to be a fan and a bad day to be a hater! I hope they bring the core back next year so we have a chance at a repeat.

Thanks K-bro for the great coverage this year. I wouldn't even check out the LA Times website if it wasn't for this blog.

Add me to the fire TJ bandwagon. what a bitter bitter man. http://www.latimes.com/services/site/la-mediacenter-editorialstaff,0,5952869.story
here is the link to get in touch with his editor and make sure the Times hears us.
SPORTS
Editor: Randy Harvey
Deputy Editors: Mike Hiserman, Mike James
Senior Assistant Sports Editor: Debbie Goffa

Lets go Lakers! Lets go!

Shame,

I am embarrassed that some Lakers Fans would do this...

But it happens everywhere.

http://tinyurl.com/ae48np

Since Pig shared his response to TJ, I figured I'd do the same. I am still filled with disgust over that column, which is a disgrace to the memory of Jim Murray and Alan Malamud. God, I hope he departs from the Times, PDQ:

Wow TJ,

You need help - serious help! Besides the money, can you explain why you continue to mark time in a profession that you clearly hate, writing columns for an audience that you clearly despise, and covering human beings you'd clearly like to inflict violence upon if you could get away with it? Your bile and contempt for all things Sports make reading your column akin to looking at the autopsy photos of David Carradine or watching the Daniel Pearl beheading video - I don't want to look, but I'm compelled to see what the lower depths of humanity are actually like. You are a sad whiny jester, and the time of your ilk is passing rapidly. I'd like to say that I'll be sad to see you go, but honestly, your departure will be a moment of sublime pleasure. It's not too late to change professions, TJ, and I implore you to look into manning a fishing boat up in Alaska; I have a buddy who can hook you up with a gig. Let me know, because I'd love to see you freed from you agonizing sentence from that journalistic prison of your own creation.

Lastly, your column today reminds me of a bizarre wedding I attended in which the best man groped the bride on the dance floor, puked in the middle of his toast and then finally urinated on the wedding cake. Thanks, though, for reminding me that my love of sports is a sign that my priorities suck; I'm glad a SPORTSWRITER could do that for me.

Warmest regards,

Tully Moxness
Belmont, CA

PS Keep up the good work! Ideally, that work will be in Turkmenistan.

Justanothermambafan -

I know what you mean. I read the above interviews carefully and they were really touching... they hit me emotionally.

Mamba,

What a fabulous final Roll Call. I only have one correction that I think you would heartily agree with which is to make sure to let everybody know that we also won this for Tex Winter, who deserves to be inducted into the Basketball Hall of Fame. Get well, Tex. Our hearts and prayers to you and your wife and family and thanks for all you have done for Phil, Kobe, and the LA Lakers. The Triangle or Triple Post – the Offense of Champions.
Thanks, Larry.

Tom

Man, the LA Times is schizophrenic. After first posting my parade hater comment in the news section, it has now been removed, even though my blog post remains.

Charles:

SINCE YOU RESPONDED OUT OF CONCERN PERHAPS GUILT, THEN LET ME ASK YOU A SIMPLE QUESTIONS, WOULD YOU HAPPEN TO OWN A NEW PAIR OF SNEAKERS AS OF YESTERDAY?

hahaha

SHAME,

DON'T FEEL TOO BAD ABOUT THE GUY

800 PAIRS OF SHOES MAN!! LOL... UM WHAT ELSE IS MISSING? SUNGLASSES? YEA YEA SUNGLASSES AND LIKE ALOT OF HATS TOO, I'M TALKIN HUNDREDS OF HATS.. WHAT ELSE? UMM....

before we get another GIANT roll call repost or whatever else:

WHAT happened with the Buss familiy? What happened to Jim or certainly Jeanie Buss? I thought that was an insult to trot out those 2... kids... why didn't they just have Mitch accept it?

Jon,

>>> 6. We'd get to watch Andrew Bynum outplay Shaq in the Finals
>>> and a new Lakers Great Center is born.

Man, how sweet would that be. Jon, thanks for being my web compadre all season long. Sometimes it seemed like we were talking to each other in an empty arena but it was always great to know there was somebody always waiting for the next post like I was.

Home by the holidays I hope. Jon K, the blog’s resident renaissance man.

Tom

It's time for the sad pathetic joke that has been TJ Simers column to end. If the guy knew anything at all about sports, maybe I could see it, but the man is a total fraud.

LA Times, you have embarassed yourself long enough. Ditch this circus clown and make sure he takes along his big floppy shoes, don't want anyone tripping over them.

Posted by: Lakers Legacy | June 15, 2009 at 02:46 PM

Where the hell have you been? All we need now is JSNV to post.

Shame,

Same feelings as Charles as I too am embarrassed by Laker fans who would do those things very reminiscent of Oakland Raider fans (there are some good Raider fans no doubt).

One good thing about me and Laker Tom: We both don't like the Raiders.

Hey though there are some rowdy fans out there and every team has fools who do go overboard so it is not just Laker fans.

Still those fans should go back to Oakland cheer for those Raiders if they want to do that to LA Live. They bring Shame to Rick Fox by doing those things.

repost

it has always been and will always be ALL ABOUT THA LAKE SHOW! big up to all my fellow bloggers who have been posting through thick and thin...enjoy! -tha show
Posted by: tha show | June 15, 2009 at 01:51 PM

Tha Show has returned now my celebration is complete,
How you be big brother?

Larry(Mamba24)


Utz,

I have to give you some props for bringing religion and spirituality to the blog in a respectful and passionate manner that every Lakers fan of every religious persuasion could understand and applaud. And one thing that has been proven over and over is that God helps those who help themselves. It was the work ethic of the Lakers players and the karma from the Lakers Blog that allowed us to prove once and for all that God is a Lakers fan. Amen, Utz. You and Mrs. Utz and all the little banner holders have a great summer but be ready to rock come October, when we go for the second leg of our next threepeat.

Thanks for the love and hope, utz. You and Mamba are the wiki-power of the blog.

Tom

AK,

You and Brian just do phenomenal interviews. It's my favorite stuff that you do.

WE ARE THE LOS ANGELES LAKERS AND WE RISE!!!!

What do we play for? RINGS!!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!!!!

This Laker team just got lucky when KG got hurt....lol

Shame,

First of all, go screw yourself.

Second of all, Laker Nation is fricken HUGE and like any giant family there will be a few odd cats in the mix.

Finally, I don't consider these hooligans to be real Lakers fans. They're just idiots who wanted to cause trouble and used the Lakers victory as an excuse to be idiots.

Generally speaking, of all the diehard basketball fans I've met over my lifetime, Lakers fans tend to be the classiest. There are exceptions, of course, but generally speaking Lakers fans are the classiest fans in professional basketball.

WE ARE THE LOS ANGELES LAKERS AND WE RISE!!!

What do we play for? RINGS!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!!!

Tully Moxness,

Your response to T.J. Simers was brilliant.

In all seriousness (I'm not joking, I'm dead serious here), what can we do to get T.J. Simers fired? Who should be start writing letters to?

Because I'm willing to work diligently to get this guy fired. I've had enough.

WE ARE THE LOS ANGELES LAKERS AND WE RISE!!!

What do we play for? RINGS!!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!!!!

AK,

Is Randy Harvey your boss? Does he ultimately do the hiring and firing for sportswriters for the L.A. Times staff or is someone else responsible for that?

WE ARE THE LOS ANGELES LAKERS AND WE RISE!!!

What do we play for? RINGS!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!!!

LakerTom,

As an original blogger, man, what an arc we seen in this forum. It's definitely been a journey and I remain impressed by your dedication, intelligence, eloquence, and optimism.

After seven years of struggle, infighting, trolls, haters, chicken littles... all of it, we not only have a Championship, we have what I believe is the makings of a Dynasty.

We're going to be better next year and one of the main reasons is that Andrew Bynum will be healthy and continue to develop. Think about it. Andrew is like eight years away from playing his BEST game. That's EIGHT FRICKEN YEARS OF IMPROVING PLAY!!!

The guy's going to become an absolute monster and Laker Nation gets to enjoy the benefit of that transformation.

The journey has just begun, brother. The journey has just begun.

WE ARE THE LOS ANGELES LAKERS AND WE RISE!!!!

What do we play for? RINGS!!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!!!

itsk,

Do you realize that you sound like a fool? Is that how you like people to view you, as a fool? You must really need attention. What? Did your mother not love you or something?

WE JUST WON THE CHAMPIONSHIP!

DEAL WITH IT!

WE ARE THE LOS ANGELES LAKERS AND WE RISE!!!!

What do we play for? RINGS!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!!!

Shame,

"SINCE YOU RESPONDED OUT OF CONCERN PERHAPS GUILT,"

It's concern. As I have posted a link to Bostons fans rioting with their celebration, it's just not good to have people react that way.

"THEN LET ME ASK YOU A SIMPLE QUESTIONS, WOULD YOU HAPPEN TO OWN A NEW PAIR OF SNEAKERS AS OF YESTERDAY?"

Nah man. I have passed up Shoe-phile-isms a while back.

utzworld,

I second what Laker Tom said to you.

Your presence and spirituality is sincerely appreciated.

WE ARE THE LOS ANGELES LAKERS AND WE RISE!!!

What do we play for? RINGS!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!!!

Dallas Raines' Hair,

I also thought having Joey Buss accept the trophy was a little weird, but upon thinking about it, I think Jerry Buss was making a statement.

The Lakers are the Buss family and will stay in the Buss family for generations. There's a commitment there to excellence that will span generations.

WE ARE THE LOS ANGELES LAKERS AND WE RISE!!!!

What do we play for? RINGS!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!!!

Kobe Bryant Kobe Bryant Kobe Bryant Kobe Bryant Kobe Bryant, etc. etc. etc.
CONSTANTLY !!!!!
I mean, enough is enough
Is there anyone else on the team?
This is no way to form, shape and define a championship callibur professional basketball team.
This plan of Jackson's is for marketing to kids. !!!
This Laker group is a farce
a con, a pure Disney sell out
a prefabricated mass produced packaged product that lacks the integrity of a true NBA callibur Team.
Disgusting
No Balance
No trust in the ability of other team mates
Complete Synthetic rubbish

Bring back REAL Basketball!!!!!!!

Laker Faithfuls...

"He's [kobe's] grown. He's grown up. He's doing everything that we could ever ask him to do in terms of leading the team and performance on the court, during the games, in practice, and like you stated, trying to be the type of guy that guys will follow as opposed to just dominating performances by himself and then expecting everyone to catch up to him."

I think Fisher is saying what's i've been saying about the person formerly known as Mr. Ballhog Bryant.

My view of kobe in 2004-2007 was correct. In 2008, I noticed a small change in the beginning of the season when the Lakers performed DESPITE of kobe's rants in the summer.

The dude's grown up and deserves credit for earning the respect of his peers and fans (like me) who didn't appreciate the annoying kobe.

The 2009 version of Kobe is much improved from the 2004-2007.

Jon K: "Generally speaking, of all the diehard basketball fans I've met over my lifetime, Lakers fans tend to be the classiest."

I would disagree with you on "laker fans being the classiest" (at least in the context of this blog). There are plenty of slime on this blog (to go along with the so-called "trolls") who have been mostly controlled by the Blog guys.

Mamba24 - wait... Simers is a writer?

Jon K,

1) Just as a point of clarification, these interviews weren't conducted by just BK, but rather a group of writers asking questions with players at a podium. While I appreciate the nice words, I don't want to grab credit when unwarranted. Unless you see the question posed specifically from BK or I, it's safe to assume someone else wrote it.

2) Randy Harvey runs the sports department, but I don't actually know who does the hiring. BK and I were hired by the web side.

AK

I know it is an unlikely hope but...

I would hope that Kobe resigns for a long-term contract for less money than he could receive.

If Kobe did that, he ensures that we can retain players necessary to build a Dynasty and perhaps cement his legacy as the Greatest ever.

His endorsements are going to spike after this Championship.

We need to keep this team together and possibly bring in one more player. That's it.

Even ESPN said that if this team sticks together, they will be the favorites to win the Championship for the next four years.

Think about it, Kobe.

Retiring with eight rings instead of four.

Think about it.

WE ARE THE LOS ANGELES LAKERS AND WE RISE!!!

What do we play for? RINGS!!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!!!!

roger scot,

You're an idiot.

Hey, did you notice who won the Championship last night?

I did.

WE ARE THE LOS ANGELES LAKERS AND WE RISE!!!

What do we play for? RINGS!!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!!!

why am I not surprised? I guess I expected more...

"If Kobe did that [gave up $ to keep certain guys around to build a dynasty], he ensures that we can retain players necessary to build a Dynasty and perhaps cement his legacy as the Greatest ever."

This would go a long way to dispelling remaining kobe-haters.

as far as "greatest ever", let's not get too far ahead of ourselves. we all know who the "greatest ever" is (Jordan) and nobody's going to take that away (not even Kobe).

I will admit that Kobe would appear to have surpassed Shaq as a Laker (at least in my humble opinion). I think Magic Johnson agrees with the aforementioned statement when he suggested that the Laker's honor Kobe with a statue next to Magic (which i think it'll happen if kobe retires a Laker).

utzworld-THE BANNER HOLDER,

Let's not forget to add our dear friend known as "Let's Go C's!" to the list.

Come to think about it, I don't recall seeing any of his/her posts this past season. Do you?

Hmmm...I guess he's "one and done" as well (trollwise that is!).

God bless and peace out.

Laker pride through ALL and ANY ADVERSITY!

Tully,

Your response was much better than. I had brevity in mind, but you did great with your "best man" analogy. Kudos to you sir.

Eff TJ Simers.

Jon K,

While I'm definitely in agreement with everyone on the blog in questioning TJ Simers' "writing" ability, I don't necessarily agree with trying to get the guy fired. It's just doesn't seem right to try to discharge a guy just because we don't like what he writes. Maybe he's the Times' anti-Bill Simmons. Somebody to give an objective view on a subjective situation. Like I said, I dislike him just as much as anyone on this blog, but, in this time and the way the economy is, it's hard to call for anyone's job. Especially for personal reasons.

And speaking of Bill Simmons, I think he's shown up on this blog. He's just going by the name of "Roger Scot."

TYPO:

Tully,

Your response was much better than MINE. I had brevity in mind, but you did great with your "best man" analogy. Kudos to you sir.

Eff TJ Simers.

Random Thoughts:

- Watching Phil celebrating with the team in the locker room while being doused with champagne was just priceless. Even the Zen Master couldn't contain his emotions.

- Kobe is turning the Kobe-haters into an endangered species, but never underestimate the will of the Kobe-haters. They are resilient. They will lurk in the shadows like cockroaches, patiently waiting for their opportunity to return and continue their life-long crusade to diminish Kobe's legacy.

- Kobe has proven that he can respond to negativity and hate. Can he stay motivated with so much positivity and love surrounding him? Ummm...YES.

- After witnessing Ariza's drastic improvement this year, it's not that far fetched to think that with the guidance of Kobe, he might be an all star in a few years (or less).

- To KL Beast (Neutered Version), even Magic would've been a "ball hog" if you replaced Byron Scott, Worthy, and Kareem with Smush, Brian Cook, and Kwame.

- I think Phil learned from his mistake of benching Fish for Gary Payton, and vowed not to make the same mistake twice.

- Fish made the two biggest shots in these playoffs. The 3 in game 4 and the shot to Scola.

- People might be clamoring to trade Sasha, but the Lakers won't be able to get much for him. It's better to gamble that he returns to last year's form than to trade him for peanuts.

I only have one correction that I think you would heartily agree with which is to make sure to let everybody know that we also won this for Tex Winter, who deserves to be inducted into the Basketball Hall of Fame. Get well, Tex. Our hearts and prayers to you and your wife and family and thanks for all you have done for Phil, Kobe, and the LA Lakers. The Triangle or Triple Post – the Offense of Champions. Posted by: LakerTom | June 15, 2009 at 02:54 PM

Hey Laker Tom, Man how stupid could I be to forget Tex. You might as well put me in the Class of Butler or KL for that. Thanks man I'll get right on it in my dedication poem
for tomorrow since Roll Calls over for the Summer. Speaking of which you have a good one Bro.

Larry(Mamba24)

mamba24,

been good man, finished moving into my new spot just as the game started. how you been? seen any good basketball games lately?

what a great night. must admit that i was feeling a mix of happiness and relief. happiness for the players, coaches and fans...and relief that this talented group realized/maximized their potential.

simers is old, bitter and tired...AND IRRELEVANT. he needs a dunce cap and a corner to stare at...

laker haters (really kobe haters) are scratching their heads, hmmming and awwing right now - their kobe hate forever silenced. 4 titles, scoring titles, 1st team defense year in-year out, all star mvp, finals mvp, olympic gold medalist, 81 point game, yada yada yada...

his resume ranks up there with the greatest players of all time.

mamba24 - thanks for the positive vibes throughout this journey. whether we just got bounced by the suns or celtics, mamba24 always has the bright perspective.

and now the lakers are champs (again). funny we just won yesterday, and the players/fans are already hungry for another title...only in LA...you gotta love it.

long live the lake show.

those 15x champion t-shirts were looking nice!

Mamba24 - wait... Simers is a writer? Posted by: dave m | June 15, 2009 at 03:40 PM

Good one Dave LOL! I don't know what he calls it but I call it Garbage can linning. Dave Take care Bro & enjoy the victory & the summer!
Larry(Mamba24)

alright. i got home about an hour ago, and started reading the blog threads. i'm finally done. man, there's a lot to respond to.

first, thanks for the post-victory Roll Call, Mamba24. loved the new parts. (although was a bit surprised no shout-out to D-Fish in it.)

and thanks Utz, for the prayer.

as for this roger scot fellow... just get over it. you're gonna see the Lakers for a long, long time. as Jack Nicholson would say, "YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE LAKERS!" and if you can't, just stop watching the NBA, cuz all the commentators, all the writers, all the coaches, all the players are gonna be talking about the LA LAKERS, and their star KOBE BRYANT, AKA THE BLACK MAMBA. why? because they're da bomb, and reigning NBA Champions. now i'll reiterate: get over it.

4th: i think it was LTLF that was pondering how we'll resign Lamar, Trevor, and Brown... well i don't know if Mitch can resign Brown, it's all about if he gets any offers over the vet. minimum. i can't see the Lakers paying over $2 million per for Brown... they just can't afford to. first, you gotta see if Kobe opts out or whatever, then you gotta deal with that. hammer out a deal, and hopefully he won't ask for max $ for max years. i also hope he becomes humble, and realizes it's better for the team for him to sacrifice.

then, Odom and Ariza will be priority 2a & 2b. and in that order. i expect Odom to make on average 8 mill, while Trevor averages 6-7 mill. both contracts would be spread out through at least four years, with the salary starting off smaller, then rising to it's peak in the final year. this will be good, as they can keep Odom and Trevor, and only spend 6 & 5 million next year, and the year after that. in which time farmar, morrison, and maybe even sasha are all off the books. (and sun yue, but he doesn't make that much) (also, for Odom, if you throw some incentives into the contract, that'll be cool. like if he can average 18+ ppg, 10+ rpg, play in 70+ games... playoffs averages, etc.)

and if mitch can take care of that, and Brown get's offered a $3 million per deal, let him walk.

next season: i want another Championship for the Lakers, PJ to finally get his 2nd coach of the year, and mitch his first executive of the year. they both are deserving! (and of course, kobe's 2nd Finals MVP)

AK,

Thanks for the clarification.

WE ARE THE LOS ANGELES LAKERS AND WE RISE!!!!

What do we play for? RINGS!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!!!

oh yeah, about the TJ Simmers thing... i think even if we all banded together and called for his firing, the LA Times bigwigs would just say, "Good job TJ! you're really firing up those Lakers fans! keep up the good work! here's a raise (or) bonus!"

let's face it, the media blows. all they want is for us to get excited or angry or panicky.

don't get me wrong, i'm not blaming every tv news source or newspaper, just the ones owned by huge corporations that are more about making money, rather than reporting the news with any sense of integrity.

Skeletor,

I've read the L.A. Times nearly every day since I was six years old and I do not like where this newspaper is going. It is losing it's journalistic integrity and T.J. Simers is the most blatant example of a writer lacking journalistic integrity.

There are lots of good writers out there who are vibrant, intelligent and have journalistic integrity.

And they're not getting hired because this idiot T.J. Simers is making the journalistic equivalent of fart noises into a bullhorn on a daily basis for the L.A. Times.

T.J. Simers needs to be fired.

WE ARE THE LOS ANGELES LAKERS AND WE RISE!!!!

What do we play for? RINGS!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!!!

*
FIRE TJ SIMERS – BANDWAGON
*
(01) RICK FRIEDMAN – OWNER –
(02) TSPHERE – DRIVER - The only person in the background I wouldn't let of the hook is TJ Simers, whose provocation and sardonic but misplaced sense of superiority has no place on the same pages as the blog. The guy is downright ridiculous in ways that even KL coundn't achieve. This quote in today's article is particular pernicious:
(03) PIG – RIDING SHOTGUN - Next time you see him in the hall at the Times offices, do all of us Lakers fans a favor and punch him in the face. Please.
(04) JON K – RABBLE ROUSER - Actually I'd hope we can start a "Fire T.J. Simers" Bandwagon and that AK & BK can personally deliver it to the L.A. TImes management.. T.J. Simers is not a true journalist. He's a narcissistic troll. .J. Simers is mentally ill, but he is a highly functioning mentally ill patient
(05) EDWIN GUECO – COUNSELOR - The LAT sportswriter, T. J. Simers is now using the hate mails as an asset to his article. It is becoming part of his identity in capitalizing negativity as an attraction to his column the "Darth Vader Syndrome."
(06) LAKER TOM – CONCILIATOR - Why read Simers or his ilk when we have you and AK and all of the LA Times Lakers bloggers to say it better with insights that the ESPN-owned sound-bite headline-driven copycat national sports reporters and journalists (yourselves excepted) would never have come up with.
(07) MAMBA24 – COPY BOY – TJ Simmers is a fool, buffoon and a disgrace to the writing profession.
(08) LONGTIMELAKERLOVER - Yeah, TJ has no respect for himself, which is why he feels ok about writing like he does. He's a sad, pathetic, bitter writer.
(09) USAPA - just read TJ Simer's "IIdolatry of Lakers is ludicrous" and as if it wasn't obvious before, it is very obvious now. TJ Simers isn't about reporting sports. TJ Simers is about TJ Simers.
(10) TULLY MOXNESS - Well, so much for my Lakers buzz...TJ Simers puts it all into perspective for me
(11) VINCE MEGHROUNI - Anybody read Simers' article? Is that guy a self-important phony blowhard, or what?
(12) JMAN449 - Maybe Simers has made a very important statement regarding the culture of celebrity and the American "Win at all costs" ethic. Then again, maybe he is just a pompous, self-absorbed jackass like 99% of the Times readers have thought for years. Yeah, probably that. Choke on it Simers!
(13) MASE - He has a schtick (sp?) and as long as he gets people to read his stuff, he'll be kept on. But if he is truly ignored, that's the only way to get him off the radar and move far far away.
(14) VMAN - You're right about TJ. When he shouts fire in the theatre he gets a reaction he undoubtedly wouldn't on an op ed page. Gotta be attractive to the TImes, stuck trying to manage a dying business model.
(15) JUSTANOTHERMAMBAFAN - The Times needs to fire his azz - what a moron. What a fool. What a hater. What a loser. I could go on but you get my drift.
(16) MIROSLAVA - can't wait for grumpy old men 3 starring TJ simers!
(17) JAY - Let' all boycott this LA Times writer for shaming the home team that we all love. T.J. Simers find a city to love, cause we sure as heck don't love you.
(18) LARON THE PROPHET OF DOOM - But what the hell is wrong with TJ Simers, is he bitter or what? Maybe he should go write for the Boston Globe.
(19) PIG -Why TJ? Why you hate the Lakers? That you can't outwit Phil Jackson? That Kobe doesn't answer the silly questions you ask during news conferences?
Tell me you do it because that's what the Times wants from you to get more clicks, because no one can be in their daily life, as snide as you are
(20) DAVE M. You Mean T. J. Simers is a writer?
(21) JIM - It's time for the sad pathetic joke that has been TJ Simers column to end. If the guy knew anything at all about sports, maybe I could see it, but the man is a total fraud. LA Times, you have embarassed yourself long enough. Ditch this circus clown and make sure he takes along his big floppy shoes, don't want anyone tripping over them.
(22) SKELETOR - While I'm definitely in agreement with everyone on the blog in questioning TJ Simers' "writing" ability, I don't necessarily agree with trying to get the guy fired. It's just doesn't seem right to try to discharge a guy just because we don't like what he writes. Maybe he's the Times' anti-Bill Simmons. Somebody to give an objective view on a subjective situation. Like I said, I dislike him just as much as anyone on this blog, but, in this time and the way the economy is, it's hard to call for anyone's job. Especially for personal reasons.
(23) tha SHOW - simers is old, bitter and tired...AND IRRELEVANT. he needs a dunce cap and a corner to stare at...

Kevin Ding,

Just a shout out to let you know that you are hands down the blog’s favorite reporter covering the Lakers for a SoCal newspaper. I loved your article on how Kobe become a coach on the floor this season.

- Does anybody feel that Pau Gasol’s new toughness is NOT due to playing with Kobe and learning what kind of preparation and intensity championship level play requires?

- Does anybody feel that Lamar Odom’s new consistency is NOT the result of learning how to focus and how to figure out what the team needs from Kobe Bryant?

- Does anybody think that Andrew Bynum’s great work ethic and respect for the game of basketball is a direct result of having Kobe Bryant as a mentor?

- Does anybody believe that Trevor Ariza would have become as great a defender and shooter without the support and guidance from Kobe Bryant?

Kevin said it best in summing up his article: “Bryant didn't really try to get another MVP award this season. What he tried to do – and did do – was make all his teammates more valuable players.” I submit that that says it all. Kobe Bryant, the Lakers and Finals MVP.

Tom

There's a Fire TJ Simers Bandwagon and I'm not on it??? Dude is the arrogant hateful jerk, and its an absolute shame that he covers the Lakers. He's a disgrace to the LA Times, the Lakers organization and its fans.

But you know what? Who cares? WE ARE THE CHAMPS!!! WHO, YEAH ITS US WE ARE THE CHAMPIONS. Nothing can bring me down today!

LG

who? who are we talking about? I don't read any of these guys who just write to get attention. it gives them what they want. and random, unknown and hypothetical writer who used the forum of the press to write a piece that was created with the express purpose of getting peoples ire and chewing up endless reams of space screaming for their job would probably be ecstatic to have all this attention.

um, sorry, that's a bit un readable, it's hard to write with indeterminate pronouns. starve the troll, guys. if the K Bros are just nice enough to identify these people when they link to them so I can avoid them, it's fine with me. I don't want to waste time talkiing about them.

put me on the 'i don't give a crap about your pollyanna give me attention, hating excuse for jounalism' bandwagon, not some ego trip for a guy who has to generate controversey to sustain any relevance.

by the way, mamba24, utz, great work.

long time laker fan, i don't think i credited you yet, some great material the last few days. you call out the right people and set them straight without a lot of ego or excess cheap shots.

good job.

Yo AK

Thank you. Here's to putting spaces between my long string of texts as to not ruin "the overall appearance of the blog" as you say.


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jon K.- i know you are a guy with some strong opinions, and i can respect that and don't need to try to change your mind to be ok with you, but there isn't a newspaper in this country that is what could be called a successful business at this point.

I'm not an expert, but i've studied enough journalism to know that the things you complain about have existed in newspapers as long as they have been around. I think the first newspaper article ever might have been about some starlets lack of undergarments.

there is more than one reason why newspapers are struggling, but it has more to do with income from advertising, production costs, and expectations of profits than it does with the public suddenly discovering any kind of taste and judgement with regards to their news.

and finally, the los angeles times created and maintains this blog. they deserve a lot of credit for allowing the k bros to establish the kind of excellence they have here.

that said, they've got some real morons writing columns in their sports section.

TJ Simers is a clippers fan. A bad one at that. He's just jealous. Enough said.

I refuse to read much less talk more about his biased and inaccurate filth.

GO Lakers!

blitz,

>>> Same feelings as Charles as I too am embarrassed by Laker fans who
>>> would do those things very reminiscent of Oakland Raider fans
>>> (there are some good Raider fans no doubt).

Well said, blitz.

>>> One good thing about me and Laker Tom: We both don't like the Raiders.

Go, Niners!

Tom

Larry - you have a good summer too but don't be thinking about ditching the blog, the season is the feast and the summer's the famine and your services WILL be required, my friend.

Jon and KL,

I have been posting my hopes that Kobe would sign a long-term contract for $18-20M per year with the specific understanding that the money left on the table would be used to sign Lamar, Trevor, and Shannon to new contracts. Time for Mamba to create our first new offseason bandwagon: KOBE BRYANT OPTS OUT FOR LESS BANDWAGON.

Whatever amount Kobe would lose in salary, he would reap double in endorsements, not counting what the move would mean for his rep and legacy. It is the SMART MOVE. Hopefully, Kobe and his handlers read the blog and will pick up on a great PR idea.

Tom

okay, i officially have to give it up to Pau Gasol on defense. i just read in the Henry Abbott article, "ESPN Stats and Information charted Gasol single-covering Howard on 38 possessions -- and Howard did not score from the field on any of them."

that's just awesome.

Mamba,

Please put me on the

"Reassign TJ to "Special Assistant to Mr. Kamenetzky""
bandwagon.

The interns got to go back to school, TJ has to eat, and maybe there's still some hope with TJ after some mentoring.

kobe,...kobe,...kobe,...kobe,...
All the time,
every time
always the camera on kobe
always the game play rewind of kobe
always the media on kobe
Y'all like that crap
what a farce

Faker fans
Find yourselves a REAL TEAM
not a hollywood style fake

don't be hatin'
It's just the truth

"I think Phil learned from his mistake of benching Fish for Gary Payton, and vowed not to make the same mistake twice."

That's why HE is the Coach of the Los Angeles Lakers and not A Bandwagon Fan named Todd or PJDoubter o Pfunk36 and the Pfunk36ites like Chuck23.

The best of all time and he made the correct call of not putting in Jordan or Shannon. And Game 4 paid off.

John Hollinger is do deluded in his PER and using statistics only to see how good a player he is but he is correct in this one:

"Remember how Andrew Bynum was supposed to be the difference-making big man the Lakers lacked a season ago? He was largely a nonfactor in the postseason. In the series-clinching win Sunday, he was responsible for the Lakers' only stretch of poor play, missing seven shots in the first five minutes and committing a turnover while the Magic raced out to a 15-6 lead. For the Finals as a whole, he had 30 points and 21 fouls.

Remember how the heir apparent at point guard, Jordan Farmar, was there to alleviate any age questions for Derek Fisher? Farmar bounced back a bit late in the playoffs but was such a basket case for most of the second half of the season that he lost minutes to scrap-heap pickup Shannon Brown. The Lakers ended up riding it out with Fisher, 34, at the point. Fisher shot 39.3 percent for the playoffs and 28.4 percent on 3s, and averaged 8 points per game, but L.A. won anyway.

Remember when Sasha Vujacic could make a shot? "The Machine" shot 43.7 percent on 3-pointers during the 2007-08 season and earned a three-year, $15 million deal as a free agent. He was supposed to be the guy to burn double-teams off Kobe Bryant and Pau Gasol. Instead, he went 0-for-The-Finals and was relegated to a bit player in the Lakers' rotation during the final two rounds of the playoffs; in the final seven games, he saw only 33 minutes."

The greatest coach of all time now didn't buy into Todd's/pfunk36's aka pfraud36/PJDoubter's BS crap or the Bynum homers venom because he played the GUYS who made the real difference in Derek Fisher, Kobe Bryant, Trevor Ariza, Lamar Odom, and Pau Gasol. That lineup dominated in the Finals and won the title.

The greatest coach of all time.

Celebrating 50 years as a Laker fan!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Roger B

Bloogsters:

We can't stop folks from hating when their next-door neighbor does well - it's part of the collective consciousness.

Every time L.A. wins, it can polarize. L.A. is, in many ways, #1. Remember when the Magic Show was labeled a "Hollywood production?" L.A. ALWAYS looks great, win or lose and when we win - well, ugliness can and will sprout.

I hated when Bird beat us in '84 - the Celtics made so much fun of us as we lost. I had to understand that people won (Boston) and that was a victory for all people. It helped that I had a good life beyond sports. Some people don't.

I've tried to give due to some of the "trolls" on this blog, but this doesn't seem to work. They don't want to be O.K. As we grow as individuals, it's better understood that every level of consciousness continues to exist on this earth - so pick your friends well, fire up that barbecue, and LOVE THEM LAKERS!!! I do this every day.

Mamba24, Jon K., LakerTom, KB Blitz, UTZ, dave m, Taliq, Xodus, AK & BK, and all the others - you've given me a sweet ride and I am in your debt. Thank you.

Some random post-championship questions:

- how does it cost $2MIL for a 5 hour parade? I better get some nice free tshirts wednesday

- how many cars will burn tomorrow? Over and under 15. Sorry bad joke

- who will do dance on stage and bring back horrible mark madsen memories?

- who will guarantee another ring and say "BACK TO BACK" ala magic and riley?

- with kobe finally having an olympic free summer what part of his game will he look to improve the most?

- what's up with lamars gotta take care of my family quote? how much will free agency offer him?

- how much will arizas agent demand? Between 5-8 MIL?

- will they keep a 3pt guard rotation or look to trade farmar?

- will phil resign? Does he use a bong or vaporizer?

- where will all the haters go now? Will they secretly convert to kobe lovers or will they run and hide like the cockroaches they are.

Excellent interview. I always like Lamar, he deserves to be a champion after all he went through. It was touching to finally see him win one. Lamar please remain a Laker, I don't want Lakers to beat you or you beating the Lakers when you no longer a Laker. Please do not let this happen. It will be very painful for me. Do not go to Cleveland please.

Guys and Girls,i just popped in from work and i need some help..Ummmm...Im not sure of the number from over here but i was going to make a missing persons report..So first i need an extension number..second..The names of the missing people..Ok lets start here..MikeT,Butler,Pfunk.131-92,Engeneero,Reds Love Child..
If i missed any please let me know so i can make the MPR soon...Im really worried...

Jon K,

I definitely understand your opinion. And not being a reader as long as you have been doesn't give me the same sentiment that you have.

Is TJ Simers a fool? Of course he is. I'm sure a few of us can come up with better adjectives than that, but we can all agree at the very least that's what he is. But let's face it, he's going to be around for as long as he either wants to be or if the L.A. Times has to close its doors.

Are there writers out there capable of doing a better job than Simers? I'm sure there are, but there's a few more reasons as to why they can't get a stint with the L.A. Times than simply in spite of TJ.

One of them I've already mentioned, which is the economy. Newspapers these days aren't doing so well and I'm pretty sure they either don't want to take on more salary or just literally can't. Another reason is that I think newspapers may have a sort of "comfort zone" with their current writers. There's plenty of reasons why we see the same names like Ding, Heisler, Bresnahan, Miller, Carr, Thompson and yes, even Simers. The newspapers know what they bring to the table and they know what kind of following each of them have be it good or bad. All in all, they each bring readers.

A last point I'd like to make, and it kind of ties into what I just said, newspapers have guys like Simers for a reason. I mean, look at what we're doing right now: having a conversation/debate about TJ Simers. The only other two examples I can think of off the top of my head are Bill Simmons and Jay Mariotti. Lots and lots of people despise Simmons, but I can bet you his column gets most of the hits on ESPN. As far as Mariotti goes, he was to the Chicago Sun Times what Simers is to the L.A. Times. Chicago faithful HATED him and loathed every and any column he'd write. But in the end, he was on payroll until he eventually quit and Simmons is still writing and most are still reading.

LakerTom and LakerTruth:

"- To KL Beast (Neutered Version), even Magic would've been a "ball hog" if you replaced Byron Scott, Worthy, and Kareem with Smush, Brian Cook, and Kwame."

Neutered? I prefer "refined". I would also advise not goading me into responding in kind.

If you're any kind of laker fan, please don't compare Magic with Kobe. Magic is heads and shoulders above what kobe ever could be. Replace Magic with Kobe in 2004, Shaq would still be in LA and we would have won in 2004, 2006 and perhaps more.

Nice to chat with you again, Mitch.

"I have been posting my hopes that Kobe would sign a long-term contract for $18-20M per year with the specific understanding that the money left on the table would be used to sign Lamar, Trevor, and Shannon to new contracts. Time for Mamba to create our first new offseason bandwagon: KOBE BRYANT OPTS OUT FOR LESS BANDWAGON."

I think this is the first time LakerTom and I actually agree on something. I think Kobe has enough to win a couple more with a core of Bynum, Ariza, Gasol, Odom and PJ.

by the way, mamba24, utz, great work. Posted by: phred | June 15, 2009 at 04:38 PM

Thanks bro, much appreciated. You have a good one this summer. Larry(Mamba240

Okay, "nba conscience."

If you think it's such a cool thing to come on a championship teams' blog (man, I love saying that) and spout hate, at least stick with the same moniker.

But if it makes you feel brave and puff your (internet) chest out, keep on keepin' on Roger Scot, errr I mean, nba conscience.

I've tried to give due to some of the "trolls" on this blog, but this doesn't seem to work. They don't want to be O.K. As we grow as individuals, it's better understood that every level of consciousness continues to exist on this earth - so pick your friends well, fire up that barbecue, and LOVE THEM LAKERS!!! I do this every day.
Mamba24, Jon K., LakerTom, KB Blitz, UTZ, dave m, Taliq, Xodus, AK & BK, and all the others - you've given me a sweet ride and I am in your debt. Thank you.Posted by: Otis | June 15, 2009 at 05:19 PM

OTIS you never failed to astonish me you've gone from a hell of a blogger to now a pretty good philosopher. And no bro, you aint in my debt I'm in yours. You taught me so much you'll never know. So until that Sunday dinner at Aunt Bee's, take care my brother & have a good summer.
Larry(mamba24)
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FIRE TJ SIMERS – BANDWAGON
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(01) RICK FRIEDMAN – OWNER –
(02) TSPHERE – DRIVER - The only person in the background I wouldn't let of the hook is TJ Simers, whose provocation and sardonic but misplaced sense of superiority has no place on the same pages as the blog. The guy is downright ridiculous in ways that even KL coundn't achieve. This quote in today's article is particular pernicious:
(03) PIG – RIDING SHOTGUN - Next time you see him in the hall at the Times offices, do all of us Lakers fans a favor and punch him in the face. Please.
(04) JON K – RABBLE ROUSER - Actually I'd hope we can start a "Fire T.J. Simers" Bandwagon and that AK & BK can personally deliver it to the L.A. TImes management.. T.J. Simers is not a true journalist. He's a narcissistic troll. .J. Simers is mentally ill, but he is a highly functioning mentally ill patient
(05) EDWIN GUECO – COUNSELOR - The LAT sportswriter, T. J. Simers is now using the hate mails as an asset to his article. It is becoming part of his identity in capitalizing negativity as an attraction to his column the "Darth Vader Syndrome."
(06) LAKER TOM – CONCILIATOR - Why read Simers or his ilk when we have you and AK and all of the LA Times Lakers bloggers to say it better with insights that the ESPN-owned sound-bite headline-driven copycat national sports reporters and journalists (yourselves excepted) would never have come up with.
(07) MAMBA24 – COPY BOY – TJ Simmers is a fool, buffoon and a disgrace to the writing profession.
(08) LONGTIMELAKERLOVER - Yeah, TJ has no respect for himself, which is why he feels ok about writing like he does. He's a sad, pathetic, bitter writer.
(09) USAPA - just read TJ Simer's "IIdolatry of Lakers is ludicrous" and as if it wasn't obvious before, it is very obvious now. TJ Simers isn't about reporting sports. TJ Simers is about TJ Simers.
(10) TULLY MOXNESS - Well, so much for my Lakers buzz...TJ Simers puts it all into perspective for me
(11) VINCE MEGHROUNI - Anybody read Simers' article? Is that guy a self-important phony blowhard, or what?
(12) JMAN449 - Maybe Simers has made a very important statement regarding the culture of celebrity and the American "Win at all costs" ethic. Then again, maybe he is just a pompous, self-absorbed jackass like 99% of the Times readers have thought for years. Yeah, probably that. Choke on it Simers!
(13) MASE - He has a schtick (sp?) and as long as he gets people to read his stuff, he'll be kept on. But if he is truly ignored, that's the only way to get him off the radar and move far far away.
(14) VMAN - You're right about TJ. When he shouts fire in the theatre he gets a reaction he undoubtedly wouldn't on an op ed page. Gotta be attractive to the TImes, stuck trying to manage a dying business model.
(15) JUSTANOTHERMAMBAFAN - The Times needs to fire his azz - what a moron. What a fool. What a hater. What a loser. I could go on but you get my drift.
(16) MIROSLAVA - can't wait for grumpy old men 3 starring TJ simers!
(17) JAY - Let' all boycott this LA Times writer for shaming the home team that we all love. T.J. Simers find a city to love, cause we sure as heck don't love you.
(18) LARON THE PROPHET OF DOOM - But what the hell is wrong with TJ Simers, is he bitter or what? Maybe he should go write for the Boston Globe.
(19) PIG -Why TJ? Why you hate the Lakers? That you can't outwit Phil Jackson? That Kobe doesn't answer the silly questions you ask during news conferences?
Tell me you do it because that's what the Times wants from you to get more clicks, because no one can be in their daily life, as snide as you are
(20) DAVE M. You Mean T. J. Simers is a writer?
(21) JIM - It's time for the sad pathetic joke that has been TJ Simers column to end. If the guy knew anything at all about sports, maybe I could see it, but the man is a total fraud. LA Times, you have embarassed yourself long enough. Ditch this circus clown and make sure he takes along his big floppy shoes, don't want anyone tripping over them.
(22) SKELETOR - While I'm definitely in agreement with everyone on the blog in questioning TJ Simers' "writing" ability, I don't necessarily agree with trying to get the guy fired. It's just doesn't seem right to try to discharge a guy just because we don't like what he writes. Maybe he's the Times' anti-Bill Simmons. Somebody to give an objective view on a subjective situation. Like I said, I dislike him just as much as anyone on this blog, but, in this time and the way the economy is, it's hard to call for anyone's job. Especially for personal reasons.
(23) tha SHOW - simers is old, bitter and tired...AND IRRELEVANT. he needs a dunce cap and a corner to stare at...
(24) phred - put me on the 'i don't give a crap about your pollyanna give me attention, hating excuse for jounalism' bandwagon, not some ego trip for a guy who has to generate controversey to sustain any relevance.
(25) Laker Justice - "Reassign TJ to "Special Assistant to Mr. Kamenetzky"" bandwagon. The interns got to go back to school, TJ has to eat, and maybe there's still some hope
(26) FAITH - TJ Simers is a clippers fan. A bad one at that. He's just jealous. Enough said. I refuse to read much less talk more about his biased and inaccurate filth.
(27) Leonard Bast -I think even if we all banded together and called for his firing, the LA Times bigwigs would just say, "Good job TJ! you're really firing up those Lakers fans! keep up the good work! here's a raise (or) bonus!"



Who gives a crap what TJ Simers thinks?
His sole purpose is to start a controversy and incite a reaction from Laker fans with his hate....and he's doing a might fine job of it based on today's posts. Today is a time for celebration. The only way to shut him up is to ignore him. If we fall prey to his dirty tactics by discussing his BS, we are making him relevant by helping generate more hits to his pathetic articles. The more we talk about him, the more he wins.

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KOBE BRYANT OPTS OUT FOR LESS - BANDWAGON
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(01) LAKER TOM - Owner
(02) MAMBA24 - Driver
(03) KL - Beast - ON PROBATION
(04) LEONARD BAST - Faciltator

KL Beast (Neutered Version),

"If you're any kind of laker fan, please don't compare Magic with Kobe. Magic is heads and shoulders above what kobe ever could be. Replace Magic with Kobe in 2004, Shaq would still be in LA and we would have won in 2004, 2006 and perhaps more."

If you really were a Laker fan during Showtime, than you know that Magic demanded maximum effort and preparation from his teammates. Do you really think Magic would be happy that Shaq came into camp out of shape or delayed his surgery due to "company time"? He would've gone ballistic at that kind of lazy attitude towards winning.

Magic demanded a trade because he didn't think his coach gave him the best chance at winning. Knowing his competitive nature, what do you think he would've done if you replaced Worthy, Kareem, Coop and Scott with Brian Cook, Kwame, Luke and Smush? At the very least, he would've demanded a trade.

Magic and Kobe's personalities might be very different, but their maniacal desire to win is very much the same.

Mamba24,

Great work, add me to the bandwagon to fire Simers.

Even he can't ruin this day though!

I do feel sorry for him and can't help wonder what combination of childhood trauma and screwed up brain chemistry could produce the likes of him.

another great quote, this one from the Tex Winter article in the LA Daily News, quoting Shannon Brown:
"When we met, he just said, `Hi, I'm Tex Winter, I made the triangle offense.' And I was like, `Oh, OK, nice to meet you.'"

Are the player shares posted yet? Where, please.

I believe Shannon played sparling in 21 games and had over 100 points. Points per minute average has to be top five. Am I correct?

His quick 6 points in the Denver game 5, and dunking over frogman were sensational. He hardly played after that.

CHANCES ARE THAT…

- The Lakers will face Kevin Garnett and the Boston Celtics in next year’s Finals rather than Dwight Howard and the Magic or LeBron James and the Cavaliers.

- Phil Jackson will coach for 2 more years in order to win 12 rings, which would also mean that he would leave with 4 three peats – 2 with MJ and 2 with Kobe.

- Kobe Bryant will challenge LeBron James for the regular season MVP next year as the Lakers captain continues his Olympic Gold style play as the Lakers seek to repeat.

- LeBron James may find it extremely hard to get to the NBA Finals with Dwight Howard and the Magic and Kevin Garnett and the Celtics standing in his way.

- Pau Gasol will have an even better year next year as he knows now how to amp up his intensity and toughness against bigger and more physical players.

- Andrew Bynum will return to the dominating player he was in January before getting injured well before Dwight Howard develops an effective offensive game or shot.

- The Lakers will have little problem re-signing Lamar Odom and Trevor Ariza, who both love Kobe and the Lakers, to new multi-year contracts at affordable prices.

- Lamar Odom will be a leading candidate for sixth man of the year and, with his new contract and a chance to be a Laker for Life will relish his role of the bench.

- Trevor Ariza will battle teammate Andrew Bynum for most improved player award as he becomes a bigger and bigger part of the Lakers continued success.

- Luke Walton will NOT be traded and will continue to be a vital and valuable member of the Lakers 10-man rotation whom Phil can always count on to do the right thing.

- Derek Fisher will continue to start at point guard but will play fewer minutes to preserve him for the playoffs and to give Jordan and Shannon a chance to shine.

- Jordan Farmar will come into camp bulked up and amped up and hustling like never before on defense to show he can be the Lakers point guard of the future.

- Shannon Brown will also get a shot at Kobe Bryant’s secret shooting practice system and will suddenly be looking to take the Machine’s nickname away.

- The Machine will undergo a complete engine rebuild designed to slow down his fast twitch muscles biogenetically to turn Sasha into the first NBA cyborg shooter.

- Adam Morrison will show up in training camp looking like Charles Manson and shooting like Trevor Ariza to become the team’s newest human victory cigar.

- We have not seen the last of the Most Valuable Puppets, which may be doing more to personalize and increase the common appeal of Kobe Bryant and LeBron James.

- The Lakers will hire AK and BK as secret advance scouts and use special threads that only insiders can access to provide Phil and Mitch and the players valuable advice.

And if you read this far and thought that last one might be true, then you’re a Lakerholic.

Tom

Here's a long distance shout out from Cleveland to my beloved Lakers!!!!!!!!!

I know a board like this is for debate and all that but can't you guys just chill for a minute and take in this moment.

I guess I feel that way because as a longtime fan (early Showtime era) I have been watching, admiring, cursing at and rooting for them from 3000 miles away for almost 20 years. You know I have been catching hell here especially since Lebron is here now.

I am so proud of you guys and I wish I could be there for the parade. I'll be ready to debate in a week or so but for now....

Damn the naysayers, the Lakerhaters and everybody else that isn't down.

Laker Justice. That lack of a Lakers story in the Boston newspaper is pretty outrageous. If they're dreaming it's because they're sleeping.

My GF says all the Laker vandals she's seen on TV are short, ugly single men. No wonder they're so upset.

Does anyone know? Will Vlad get a ring? He should. He was part of the reason we had home court.

And my buddy said he heard on the radio in LA that Jason Kidd wants to take a pay cut and come to the Lakers. Anyone else hear this, and is it a good idea?

Wes

Mamba24, please put me on that "Kobe Opts out for less" bandwagon.

We need to find a way to keep Mbenga, hehe.

At least here in Sac I don't have to worry about idiots rioting after the Kings win a championship...

...'cause the Kings won't ever win a championship.

On the completely opposite side of the basketball universe, D-Fish was spot on about Laker fans being spoiled. A SEVEN year drought? How many NBA franchises have never won a Ring? How many more has it been decades since they've won even one?

Even the Yankees have a nine-plus year drought.

Not complaining, but the opposite--it's good to have perspective on these things because it increases your appreciation of what they accomplished this year (if that's possible). Winning any sports title isn't easy. Lakers are not guaranteed to win every year. What they can do is set the foundation to compete every year & if Mitch can keep the pieces together, they've done that for at least 5 years to come.

Still, the Lakers have been in HALF of all Finals & won a QUARTER of all Finals ever played? That's just ridiculous! Can any other franchise claim that, even the Yankees? No wonder other fans go ballistic when phrases like "seven year drought" get bandied around.

So the next time a Mavs or Cavs or Jazz fan spews venom about the Lakers, don't hate them...pity them.

Or not.

Go Celtics 2009-2010!

 
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