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Lakers sell first round pick to Knicks for $3 million

UPDATE (4:40 pm):  Not gonna lie, this morning's deal with the Knicks takes some of the thunder out of the evening, but we'll keep the comments flowing, and follow us on Twitter (latimeslakers) for updates.  I'm in El Segundo, so if anything interesting does actually happen, it'll get passed along ASAP.  BK

Well, so much for all that stuff I posted about 15 minutes ago.  ESPN.com's Andy Katz is reporting that the Lakers, who made no secret about their desire to unload their first round pick in Thursday's NBA Draft, have done just that, selling the 29th selection to the New York Knicks for $3 million.  The money, presumably, will be used to help bring back free agents Trevor Ariza, Lamar Odom, and Shannon Brown, as well as avoid any obligation to pay a first round pick. 

Technically, my understanding is the Lakers will still be required to make a pick, but for practical purposes, the choice belongs to the Knickerbockers.   

None of this should be a shock to anyone, given GM Mitch Kupchak's comments following the team's exit interviews, and again on Wednesday in El Segundo.  The Lakers still have two picks in the second round.

BK

 
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wow, busy day for you guys. 3 mil is not bad at all.

that's what I thought. I thought they have to make a first round pick once every 2 years or something like that and we gave up our first rounder last year and next year in the Gasol trade. I guess they can do that, pick whoever the Knicks want and then trade that person for $3m.

I like this, it covers some of the Lamar money and gives them so breathing room for Shannon Brown's contract. Maybe they can move Morrison's contract before the trade deadline... ok... maybe I'm dreaming on that one...

I didn't understand the logic of picking this Calathes anyway. The dude will be in Europe GETTING PAID, basically he shouldn't be in the draft to begin with, he's not ready for the NBA, why should he get drafted and PAID by an NBA team when he shouldn't be in the draft in the first place?

An interesting move. Intelligent. I would rather have sold our second round picks, but Mitch knows best.

What do we play for? RINGS!!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!!!

BK.... I was about to post this as a comment in a previous blog, and once again you beat me to it :-)

I thought you could only sell your pick every other year?

3 mil for something we don't need. I wish my garage sales went like that.

3 mil spread out over 3 years.

That's for Brown.

Now, on to TA and LO.

Just as long as we don't fall victim to the PHX syndrome where they repeatedly kept selling their pick.

I think this one was a good deal. We have a young team and it's time to keep them together. If Morrison improves, that will be like picking up some help, and Bynum one more year of improvement.

Outstanding! Does that money count toward cap space or will it be used toward the luxury tax?

Typical New York. Overpay for everything... Love the deal as a Laker fan. Really don't need the 2nd rounders either, but maybe they can get guys who can play abroad for a year.

Kupchak keeps getting better and better.

Mo I agree. if it permits, i'd like to let go of the next two picks and save some more cash even if it is 500k or less.

thats good we know at least that they are trying to keep trevor odom and brown

Good move Mitch, now how is he going to handle the two 2nd draft picks. I guess to package one 2nd unit player to beef up the defensive needs.

Sorry to hear the passing away of Farrah, the angel Fawsett. Well, few days ago it was Ed McMahon, last month David Carradine and Bea Arthur, those are the icons of the 70's when life was attuned to sitcoms, talent shows and docudrama. May the Good Lord bless their souls.

Well, that's that...

An interesting move. Intelligent. I would rather have sold our second round picks, but Mitch knows best.

What do we play for? RINGS!!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!!!

Posted by: Jon K. | June 25, 2009 at 11:21 AM

Jon, it's better to keep the second rounders because we can use that in foreing players and keep them overseas (maybe we find the next Ginobili).

Second rounders don't have a pre-fixed salary, so for good european prospects, it is much better. If they explode in 2 or 3 years, you can offer a deal for market value.

For a first rounder you cannot offer more than the rookie maximum deal for that pick.

That's why the Spurs cannot sign Thiago Splitter (he makes way more overseas than he would make in the US).

With secound rounders you don't risk losing a good prospect you found because you are not able to offer him the money he should receive.

Kupchak was looking to get $1 million plus a future draft pick. For $3 million, will there sill be a future draft pick?

"We have Jordan [Farmar], who's had moments when he looks like the guy who could assume that position and Shannon Brown did a great job as well, but I think that position in the future is still undetermined."

Do you think this will be extended for another year similar to the situation of JCritt? How about shipping Jordan to the Wizzards for JCritt, the salary matches. Let Shannon 6'4" compete with JCritt 6''5" for the starter position in 2010.

hawaii d,

>>> How about Kobe at point ala Magic and we pick up an experienced #2
>>> that wants a ring for the minimum.

How about Kobe at point and Trevor at shooting guard? All-Snake backcourt with the Mamba and the Cobra. Talk about defense on the perimeter.

Tom

geez, I hope this post makes it??? there must be a black hole some posts go into...

but anyway... we don't have to draft or trade anybody, all we have to do is wait and see who gets into Larry Brown's doghouse and then pick them up on the cheap. Brown is crazy, he could sour on D.J. Augustin by November and demand that he be traded immediately.

Now only if Jerry Buss would stop gambeling we might not have been forced to do this. Who knows what the pick could of brought us? I think we should always be looking to make this team better and we could of always have drafted a euro and let him develope overseas. I'm not sure if netting 3 million for a draft pick is ultimatily the wisest choice. I understand the difficulties management faced with salery cap issues and roster management but who know we could be passing up on the next Tony parker, Manu, Gilber, Redd, Rashard... Three mill is chump change in the nba and spread three ways I dont see how the financial benifits outweigh the potential of a first round draft pick.

Another smart play by kupchak, no reason to pay for something you can't use. This plus trading Vlade last season will help pay for the free agents. It wouldn't surprise me to see Kupchak make another deal.

the magic are in talks to acquire vince carter for skip, courtney lee..... this would be a great deal for the magic... many big moves happening before july 1.... i don't think the nba has been this busy this early in the summer before.... the nba final four = lakers, cavs, spurs, magic.... wow....

The New Jersey Nets are in serious talks with the Magic about a deal that will send Vince Carter to Orlando for Rafer Alston, Tony Battie and Courtney Lee, two league sources told ESPN.com.

http://snipurl.com/kvkgs

Utz-

Yes. It's not fair for you to pile on a guy who isn't able to respond.

BK

By the way, am I the only one who doesn't quite get the fascination with Ricky Rubio?

Seems awfully risky for a top three or so pick.

BK

According to Ingram at Hoopsworld the deal is done for VC and Orlando.

how bout them Shaqaliers

the beauty of the PARADE at the FT line in the 4th:

Le Brick, Le Shaq. anyone ready for seconds? or re-heated leftovers.

i like the BIG AKORN!!!!!!!!!!!! for that Le Shaq needs to grow some short dreads. it is cold in Cleveland.

"By the way, am I the only one who doesn't quite get the fascination with Ricky Rubio?

Seems awfully risky for a top three or so pick.

BK"

I don't either.

BK:

"Yes. It's not fair for you to pile on a guy who isn't able to respond."

Ladies & gents, your Chaplain has been silenced. :)

No hard feelings, BK.

WOW, first, Jefferson for spare parts, than Shaq for spare parts and now Houston is about to trade McGrady and Brooks for Amare and Barbosa! Houston is going to be deadly.

BK, I think all of the top 3 picks are crummy. Blake Griffin looks like an ok player, but not a #1 pick. Thabeet looks like a total stiff, no offensive game, AND he will have to develop himself in the NEXT offseason like Bynum did just to be able to run up and down the court. Whoever gets him is losing 2 full years before they find out in the 3rd if he will be a journeyman or at least a starter who can provide 25+ minutes/game.

Rubio, I don't get at all. Remember all the hype with Jasikevicius? He came over here and fell flat on his face. NBA players are the biggest, fastest players in the world, those cute little passes that worked against Euro leagues won't fly here. Wasn't it Warren Sapp when asked about Kordell Stewart running the option against him, what would he do? "Hit the quarterback". I don't think Rubio is the "goods", it doesn't look like anybody in this draft is the "goods" really.

"By the way, am I the only one who doesn't quite get the fascination with Ricky Rubio?

Seems awfully risky for a top three or so pick.

BK"

I guess it's the fancy composed name.
Kinda like Colt McCoy.

is Ricky Rubio a new show in Las Vegas?!

AK/BK

I just listened to your posting of Phil's interview with ESPN radio.......it left me increasingly worried about Phil's physical AND MENTAL health.

The last two weeks have featured more comments and interviews from Phil than Kobe.....WTF? I think Phil could name his recent odyssey as a tribute to his Last Book......."The Last Season......A Coach's ego in search of a stroke"

This guys ego and apparent need to feel in control and important has caused him to drag this "am I coming back or not" to ad nauseum status.

The sheer temerity, audacity, and unmitigated gall to suggest that he has "toyed" around with the idea that he could just coach home games and limit his road games sounds just like the part-time plan Shaq imposed on Phoenix last year.

I understand that Phil's fear of this team being coached by someone else with a different system and being just as successful as him, will cause him to be wheelchaired to his coaching job before he just retires.

In the meantime someone needs to reign this guy in before he sets a bad standard of work ethic for this team and coaching in general........I'm just saying

Laker Truth...Amare defends like an 80 year old man...Let me change that please...He cant play a lick of D...

Allan - Brazil,

I see your point. Thanks for setting me straight.

What do we play for? RINGS!!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!!!

utzworld,

The Chaplain speaks the Truth! There can be no silencing the Chaplain!

Not cool!

What do we play for? RINGS!!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!!!!

SHACK just got traded to cleveland. Now we can build around BenW and move forward. Sorry, but a repeat in LA isn't going to happen.

The Lakers win the title and the NBA goes into overdrive...These teams are going to be left as a disaster zone once they work out that they panicked to win..

2010/2011....If they dont win the big pancake and his little french fry will be on the first flight out of the swamp...Then poor Danny Ferry will be left with the greatest NBA mess of all time...The guy is 1 step behind in is moves...

If what Jon K says is true about Cleveland (it is true).then the big pancake will bolt....Love it ...Just Love it..

As for Orlando..Carter for Lee and parts...Has this guy ever won a thing besides a dunk contest..Vince Carter is Smush parker with bigger hopps...Another Stan Van Jeremy rush move...

With todays news the Orlando Magic just traded for Vince Carter, and the Cavs with Shaq now, and yesterdays Richard Jefferson move to the Spurs., I hope we sign most of our players, and if we could find a trading partner for Farmar, Sasha or Morrison, and adding a cheaper piece, I am all for it..The Kings could use a point guard and maybe Morrison, and I think a big point guard putting Fisher on the bench adds to our team.

Good Afternnon Charles...Good Afternoon Everybody...

a lot of activity indeed---just the begining seemingly, as EVERY team is desperately trying to build a team to beat the Lakers...

and some of these moves, as well as others to come, no doubt, will indeed be desperate moves...should be very entertaining...

another great move by Mitch in selling that pick, especially if it helps to re-sign everybody etc...

I don't think Mitch is done either...he and Buss knows that they can't be complacent while the rest of the league is jockeying for position (easy Jackie Stewart--"the wet track favors the McClaren cars") ...

I have faith in Mitch (and Dr. Buss)...think we are in for some pleasant surprises this summer, as well as getting all our players re-signed...

I say let the other teams swap and swap, we'll be ready, able and waiting...bring 'em on...the Dynasty is here !!!

AS ALWAYS, AS EVER, YET ANOTHER GREAT DAY (AND CHAMPIONSHIP SEASON) TO BE A LAKER FAN !!!

GO LAKERS !!!

wonder what the Orlando trade means for Turkoglu? Who's left to offer him a big contract? Maybe he won't opt out now, that would be interesting.

Orlando got upgraded with trade for VC, only small problem, if they are still trying to sign Turk, they better bring additional ball, with so many shotters on the floor, and DH was unhappy about how many touches he gets, good luck with VC. With so mnay ALL-Stars someone always going to be unhappy. Chemistry it's not some foreign word...

Well, the Gasol trade seems to be still making waves around the league. Will be fun to see the Big dead weight sink another team, and desperate trades that will not work.

GO LAKERS!!!

that's what I thought. I thought they have to make a first round pick once every 2 years or something like that and we gave up our first rounder last year and next year in the Gasol trade. I guess they can do that, pick whoever the Knicks want and then trade that person for $3m.

I like this, it covers some of the Lamar money and gives them so breathing room for Shannon Brown's contract. Maybe they can move Morrison's contract before the trade deadline... ok... maybe I'm dreaming on that one...

I didn't understand the logic of picking this Calathes anyway. The dude will be in Europe GETTING PAID, basically he shouldn't be in the draft to begin with, he's not ready for the NBA, why should he get drafted and PAID by an NBA team when he shouldn't be in the draft in the first place?


Posted by: Dallas Raines' Hair | June 25, 2009 at 11:10 AM

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The logic is that you do not pay Calathes as he will not sign contract to play in NBA but will play overseas. We hold his rights indefinitely until he come to play in Nba then Lakers have rights for 2 years to him.

With all these moves around the league the Lakers need two things:

1) Resign Odom and Ariza (hopefully more dollars than years on Odom).

2) Bynum has to come back next year healthy and playing at a higher level.

A quailty guard would be nice too, but those 2 things will decide the Lakers fate next year in the playoffs.

Ariza is just coming into his own, and with dome weight could be a fierce running mate for Kobe.

Wow the whole league is buzzing -

Shaq, Jefferson, Vince Carter all going to our closest rivals.

There is no question now - we MUST resign Trevor and Lamar to keep competitive. I still say if we bring them (and Shannon) back we still have the best talent AND chemistry in the NBA.

Oh by the way Laker Tom - a backcourt of Kobe and Trevor would never work. We need a small quick guard to keep up with the Chris Paul/Tony Parker types.

And could we possibly trade Sasha for a draft pick and then sell it? If not, how 'bout we trade his 4 million dollar can't-shoot butt for a handful of jellybeans for Lamar?

Edwin, I don't get the fascination with Critt..he's a very big talent but he plays at 300 miles an hour. No control. At least thats what I remember seeing from him in his limited court time when with the Lakers. Has he changed? I realize he is young.

I guess I am not willing to give up on Farmar just yet. He's young too but I loved how he responded to his limited role in the playoffs and his exit interview. He's got a big ego but like many others before him, he's learning that to subsume it in the interests of team play yields rewards.

We are going to have a bitch of a time just keeping the players we have. I don't see any trades this year whatsoever in terms of the starters.

kind of a bad time for the LAT to be running a SPAM check or whatever they are doing? S-L-O-W...

JustaLakerFan, I understand that, but... it's unclear whether this guy should even be in the draft in the first place, nevermind if he should be a first round pick. Is the payoff on Calathes worth waiting 2 YEARS after picking him in the first round? Then he would have to come back over here to the NBA and develop so you're losing another year with him, just doesn't seem worth it... he should go to Europe, prove himself and put himself in the draft NEXT year or... perhaps he knows he better cash in now before his flaws are exposed?


There's a rumor that Greg Oden's name came up in trade talks... interesting... Portland is thinking the guy is a stiff (otherwise they wouldn't dream of trading him) and from what I've seen so far... he's got a long way to go...

BUTLER,

Every time you put your head in here and post just know that you are a coward for not living up to your side of the deal.

You are a coward and a man without honot.

What do we play for? RINGS!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!!!!

"By the way, am I the only one who doesn't quite get the fascination with Ricky Rubio?

Seems awfully risky for a top three or so pick.

BK"

I guess it's the fancy composed name.
Kinda like Colt McCoy.

Posted by: Allan - Brazil | June 25, 2009 at 01:59 PM

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I think he is a risk worth waiting for. I think he has to improve outside shot but has a lot of skills to build on.

If he is drafted there has to be a buyout of his Euro contract and he has said he is willing to stay overseas a couple of years to knock contract size down.

Now that is a god risk getting his talent and let him mature a couple of years overseas. I'd take that risk.

Thanks for your comment Rob D.

Lakers Blog will be slow today with the passing of Michael Jackson, everyone in the world would like to get it to LAT website. That is the passing of our generation of Superstar. With his death, there is implication to the Laker owners specifically AEG Enterprises. They just invested billions on Jacko getting back his ranch home in Santa Inez, in investing on his 50 night concert in London, now the star is dead together with the 50 day concerts. AEG owns Staples and 30% interest on the Lakers. May his soul rest in peace.

God bless you, Michael Jackson. Rest now, and thank you for giving the world so much to smile about.

Jay Jay. And then there's Ed McMahon, Farrah F, and then Michael Jackson.

WOAHHHHHHHH

everything seemed so boring than yesterday and today popped up

WHAT's GOING ON!!!!!


the east is making HUGE adjustments, It's kind of better for us because they will be batting eachother out in the playoffs.

I never knew the lakers winning a championship can evoke so much fear into different teams!


Selling the pick was a smart move, that money can pay for brown easily


RIP Michael jackson

Finally you rested Michael, and maybe tonight you will do your moonwalk literally. Thank for your music and dancing moves.

Just catching up on the multiple blogs of the day.

Thanks to LongTimeLakerLover for standing up for our role players and their importance to this championship. I think some folks look at role players and see only their limits.

All role players have limits, that's why they are role players. And all teams can afford a limited number of great, well rounded players.

You have to focus on what role players CAN do and how they help you win. And the Lakers' role players all had moments in these playoffs where they stepped up helped win games.

So Babe Ruth was traded to the Boston Braves.

oops. I mean Shaq was traded to the Cavs.

Kobe at point has one big drawback - he would have to guard guys like Chris Paul and the other fast quick shooting point guards in the league. Not sure if it is a good idea to have Kobe expending so much effort of the defensive end.

Doug

VC going to Orlando now?

Interesting. I like the deal as a response to the Shaq deal. We definitely HAVE to re-sign BOTH Odom and Ariza if we want to defend this thing.

wow. farrah fawcett, michael jackson and the cleveland cavaliers hope for an nba title. what a day.

Interesting point, edwin. I didn't realize the connection, as I didn't know AEG owned 30% of the lakers. I also didn't realize that AEG existed, so that was helpful, too. Of course, I guess they had collateral on the loan to the tune of a huge chunk of beatles music, so now I guess when I illegally download the white album i'm hurting the lakers. great.

um, so far as VC to orlando, huh? Does that mean Glu is gone? Is VC better than turkoglu? or are you going to have 3 SF who are defensive question marks and all need the rock? Anybody have any thoughts on this?

3 million more for Lamar and Trevor (and the little one for KG --sorry--Shannon ((anyone get this joke?)).

And, I must say...

I am SAD abouyt the MJ death. Nevr bought an album, but I fel like I lost a weird demented cousin.

Wes

I see multiple disasters going on today. Shaq and lebron is a joke. I guess next year he is gonna try with the lakers again.
Vince trade to orlando isnt gonna be that beneficial since dwight is looking for more points,they should just trade turk before it gets ugly. Lee and rafer was doing great in orl,why trade him for someone who is gonna take the spotlight off of superman.

When will teams learn from the 03' laker mistakes.

R.I.P mj

"Drafts picks are for losers! We are the Lakers, we don't need no stinking draft picks!"
- Fatty

RIP Michael, our family always loved your music and were looking forward to your comeback.
Our prayers are with your family.

wow. Smart move Mitch.

RIP MJackson.

Jay Jay and Doug,

>>> Oh by the way Laker Tom - a backcourt of Kobe and Trevor.
>>> would never work. We need a small quick guard to keep up
>>> with the Chris Paul/Tony Parker types. – Jay Jay.

>>> Kobe at point has one big drawback - he would have to guard guys like
>>> Chris Paul and the other fast quick shooting point guards in the league.
>>> Not sure if it is a good idea to have Kobe expending so much effort of
>>> the defensive end. – Doug.

There are a lot of misunderstandings about my proposed Kobe and Trevor backcourt. Here is a summary of why I like this backcourt:

1) We need a point guard who is an excellent ball handler, playmaker, shooter, and shut down defender to replace Derek Fisher. Neither Jordan Farmar, Shannon Brown, or Sasha Vujacic appear to be that player. Nor will we be able to trade for or draft an elite point guard without trading one of our Core-5 – Kobe, Pau, Drew, Lamar, or Trevor. Therefore, our best option is for Kobe Bryant to move to point guard.

2) With the offensive focus of the team shifting inside to Drew, Pau, and Lamar, Kobe shifting to point guard is the logical next move in the evolution of the team and the changing of the guard as far as Kobe’s role. This team can afford to do the same thing that Team USA did, which was allow Kobe to focus more on defense, distributing the ball, and closing games – which is exactly what we saw in the playoffs this year. In a way, what I am proposing is not very different from what Kobe has been doing.

3) Trevor matches up far better against backcourt players than he does against bigger, more physical small forwards like LeBron, Melo, and Pierce. While he does not have the requisite ball handling and playmaking skills to play the point, his offense shooting skills and defensive abilities make him a perfect candidate to replace Kobe at shooting guard. Even if you decide to leave Trevor at small forward, the team would have an easier time finding another great shooting guard than finding an elite point guard.

4) Matchups would dictate who guards who in the backcourt. Kobe would probably guard bigger and more physical point guards like Deron Williams while Trevor would probably guard the smaller quicker run-all-over-the-place guards like Chris Paul, Ray Allen, or Richard Hamilton, with Jordan and Shannon also matching up. A backcourt of the Mamba and the Cobra would give the Lakers the perimeter defenders to prevent penetration and keep opposing guards out of the paint.

5) There would still be times when Kobe or Trevor would also play small forward, again depending upon the matchups. Matchups are this team’s bread-and-butter. No other team in the league can handle the height and length advantage that Drew, Pau, and Lamar give us in the front court. With a Kobe and Trevor backcourt, we would dominate size-wise. It may be the way to stop penetration and to improve the team as Fish gets older.

JMO.

Tom

RIP Michael and Farrah.

Mike might have gotten weird after the 80s, but I'll be damned if the late 70's and 80's music isn't good spirited stuff.

Iverson / practice / re- MIX

http://tinyurl.com/llzbyu

I agree #4, I agree.

RIP MR JACKSON.

The New Jersey Nets have agreed in principle to send Vince Carter(notes) and Ryan Anderson to the Orlando Magic for Rafer Alston(notes), Tony Battie(notes) and Courtney Lee(notes), two league executives told Yahoo! Sports.

BK,

Now you know how we feel when we write those epic posts just to have a new thread about Scottish ventriloquists pop up 3 minutes later.

But I did my homework, too. A lot of it. I guess the benefit is I'll be able to track about all these players through their careers and sound smart around my friends.

OK.

I love this draft day. There is so much going on, and I can't help but see all these moves by Eastern and Western contenders being dominos that are falling from the initial Gasol push.

Love it.

Wes

Classic post alert!:

"3 mil for something we don't need. I wish my garage sales went like that.

Posted by: #4 | June 25, 2009 at 11:37 AM"

Amen and very funny.

Wes

JustaLakerFan, I understand that, but... it's unclear whether this guy should even be in the draft in the first place, nevermind if he should be a first round pick. Is the payoff on Calathes worth waiting 2 YEARS after picking him in the first round? Then he would have to come back over here to the NBA and develop so you're losing another year with him, just doesn't seem worth it... he should go to Europe, prove himself and put himself in the draft NEXT year or... perhaps he knows he better cash in now before his flaws are exposed?

[[ I get what you are saying but you get the the picks no matter how you use them. I think draft Calahes or some Euro you want to take a chance on to develop as a good role player. You can draft and try or throw the pick away for nothing and you get nothing, not even a chance to try to develop player. That is all I am saying about Calahhes or who ever, just a gamble. Nothing ventured nothing gained. I am thinking 2nd round as 1st round pick already traded.]]


There's a rumor that Greg Oden's name came up in trade talks... interesting... Portland is thinking the guy is a stiff (otherwise they wouldn't dream of trading him) and from what I've seen so far... he's got a long way to go...


Posted by: Dallas Raines' Hair | June 25, 2009 at 03:39 PM

Word now is Amare is going to GOlden State 6:08 pt.

Wes

I love seeing Van Gundy now. It feels like we beat HIM in the NBA finals, he being so demonstrably against us and all.

Why are so many of these players not at the draft. Too bad.

Wes

Doesn't Orlando picking up Carter mean that they believe Turkoglu is taking a walk? They play the same position. Orlando made a big deal of announcing that they would consider paying the luxury tax to retain Hedon't. So how in the world can they pay Hedon't AND Carter PLUS Howard and Lewis?

If they replace Hedon't with Carter (and give up Alston, Lee and Battie), doesn't that make Orlando worse? Hedon't is a much more effective all-around player than Carter at this point. Having Carter should make SVG's head explode.

What would Hedon't signing elsewhere as a FA (eg. Detroit) do to the market for Odom and Ariza? Would seem like having Turkoglu as an unrestricted FA makes the market softer and more likely that Odom and Ariza come back to the Lakers.

well, i'm looking forward to errbodies thoughts on the draft. Or at least the draft day trades, which are a lot more exciting, so far. A question; will michael jackson overshadow everything? will david stern be pissed?

talk amongst yourselves.

I appreciate my view here will be so far in the minority that no one will see it, but I'm not a big fan of this move.

I want to be clear that I like Mitch Kupchack and always have, but it is a common refrain from him and from PJ that "whoever we'd draft can't help us". I'm not so sure about that with guys like Blair and Young and Ellington left on the board right now- and I particularly don't like trading away your first round pick year after year after year. If you do that long enough, you end up with an old team.

It's not that I don't get what's going on and I'll admit that $3 mm is a lot for the 29th pick and is probably too good to pass up, but I see other teams (notably Cleveland) getting better while the Lakers best hope is to stand pat and drop 1 guy from the roster to offset money spent on Ariza.

Thewy are the champs - so standing pat is not necessarily bad, but it still makes me uneasy.

WOW $3 MILLION!!!

ohiovic- I like that you're willing to discuss. Who are you thinking we could get at 29 that would make us any better? or who would have traded us any picks in the next year or two that would be any good? Personally, i can't think of any, but I seriously am curious. let's get some discussion going here.

This team is built to win now, so I also think this is a good move.

I never listened to MJ yet still feel like the end of an era just passed. He did visit those kids in Stockton after the '89 shooting so whatever weirdness befell him later in life, he still had a good heart. RIP

Wow! I thought traded pick for 3 million. Lakers draft Toney Douglas from FSU. And Patrick Mills available.

Didn't see that one coming.

CADAVALIERS TRYING TO COPY THE LAKERS.

First they traded for Shaq, now they drafted their own Congo Cash.

Next they'll be trying to get Phil to sign on as their coach.

I smell trade, depending on who we draft in second round. If we take Patrick Mills if he is still on the board when we pick 42, I see Sasha and Farmar on the block.

a follow up to ohiovic's comment- it might be arguable that nick calathes could develop into an nba starting talent. If so, is it worth 3 mil? or would we have had to pay something to keep his right? I honestly don't know. If we would have had to pay for him, and multiply that by 2 in luxury tax, that might make a difference.

still interested in what people have to say.

WOW WOW WOW!

What happen to the NBA?.... The Lakers won a Championship and looks like every team is scrambling to create a roster that would unseatt the Lakers.... but sorry... we are in it for the long haul...

this is FUN...

OH MY, How it is good to be TOP OF THE WORLD...

GO LAKERS! GO KOBE!

Chase Buddinger...Patrick Mills?.

Vince Carter to the Magic is more intriguing to me than Shaq to the Cavs. First off, Shaq is going to older, Le Bron has never played with a center that likes to play strictly in the paint and the question comes down to who'll play the 3 there? With Big Z and the Diesel you have two dinosaurs at the 5, Varajao (maybe) at the 4, but who backs him up? Who spells Le Bron? Some rook? Wally Szcerbiak? My dead grandmother? She had some meeeeean back to the basket moves and could pass out of the double with AUTHORITY.

Carter to the Magic gives them something they (seemingly) lacked which was a guy who could get his own shot. But Alston and Hedo could do that as well as create for the rest of the team. Vince won't buy into the share the ball philosophy that Stanny Boy preached. He's a defensive liability and he's expensive. Assuming this is their starting 5, I'm assuming Hedo bolts for big money with this line up:
Jameer Nelson
Michael Petrus
Vince Carter
Rashard Lewis
Dwight Howard
than who is coming off the bench to provide stability due to injury, foul trouble or rotation switches? In a way, i think this actually weakens the EC champs.

We'll see.

I love that we are getting creative trying to scrape enough cash together to sign Odom and Ariza.

One more thing that I feel has been lost in our post-champioship glow. Did anyone notice how classy the team was, winning in Orlando, not dumping Gatorade on anyone, not screaming to the heavens and cavorting about like hooligans. That was sweet as most of the team it was their first ring and nobody acted like they had discovered the cure for cancer.

Stay classy Los Angeles. Even you, TJ Simers.

two people asked about Vince Carter and Turkoglu. they play different positions. VC is a shooting guard. always has been. when he went to the Nets it was: VC at the 2, Kidd at the 1, and Jefferson at the 3. Turk plays small forward. Magic started Alston and Lee at the guard spots, if I'm not mistaken.

anyway, as someone that lives in NJ, and occassionally roots for the Nets (when he has nothing better to do or when his buddy gives him a free ticket), i've been dying for the Nets to trade Vince Carter for a looooong time now! too bad they couldn't get more for him, though.

i agree that with all of these trades going down, teams are desperately trying to keep up with the Lakers. it's exactly like right after Lakers got Gasol. everyone was in panic mode. i love it!

i know Mitch/JB aren't gonna panic. just gotta resign our players, and let them take care of business. if someone else is interested in Sasha, Jordan, Luke, Ammo, MBenga, Josh or Sun, Mitch will listen, but honestly, who would want any of those guys (except maybe Jordan and Ammo as exp. contracts)? (i'm not dissing our role players, just sayin' they're much more important to us than to anyone else)

so I'm sitting here pondering the 42nd or whatever pick in the draft...and it hits me.

WE WON! WE WON! WE WON! WHOOOOOOfrickinHOOOOOOO! WE WON!

HAHAHA. BWAHAHAHAHA! WHOOP, THERE IT IS! WE WON!

man, that just feels great.

Ohio Vic.

Well, they drafted Kobe and Fisher who are still with the team. However, overthe years especially during the PJ era, Lakers would like to be a playoff contender annually and its fans expect them to compete for Championship. Therefore, the trick here is to let other teams do training or shall we say the basic fundamentals like what they're doing on Drew, then acquire them on trade i.e. Lamar, Gasol, Ariza. Basically, the core of the Lakers are all experienced athletes that's PJ philosophy of not wanting to play rookies during their first two years.

Phred,

I really like DuJuan Blair, who I see just went to San Antonio. I'm surprised he lasted this long and I think teams will look back in a couple years and think, "why did we all pass on this guy ?"

Geez, Juan Blair dropped all the way to 37 and the Spurs got him. That's a steal.

I hope they get chase budinger if he's available for the 42nd pick

I also like the idea of picking up a really quick point guard to help against teams that have one (e.g. Brooks), so I like Lawson, who went early, but Patrick Mills is still on the board even now. Not so sure he can't help us.

Phred -

One other thing that we agree on. It does feel REALLY GOOD to think "Los Angeles Lakers - 2009 World Champions !" Yes !!!

true Edwin, and plus the Lakers are pretty young. Jordan, Andrew, Shannon... Sun Yue!!! we got enough young guys. would love one more veteran. it's surprising we don't have an old stiff big man at the end of our bench. (maybe Shaq will fill that role after next season, lol!)

Mills or Budinger would be a steal at #42.

Lakers take Patrick Beverly. Don't know anything about him.

 
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