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How did/will you celebrate? We want to see.

I ran into Lakers fans and blog readers in Orlando during Game 5, walking around Amway Arena with arms held high, snapping pics, high fiving other purple and gold loyalists.  In LA, I'm sure fans were gathered together with friends and family to see the Lakers close things out.  So I'm not exactly sure how this is going to work-- details forthcoming-- but if you have pictures of all the fun**, we want to share them on the blog.  Same for tomorrow's parade. 

So gather up Sunday's jpegs and make sure not to delete tomorrow's.  We'll let you know how this'll work ASAP. 

BK

**Should "the fun" include shots of you burning storefronts or jumping on cars, you might want to keep those to yourself.

 
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"**Should "the fun" include shots of you burning storefronts or jumping on cars, you might want to keep those to yourself. "

What if there is a black box over my eyes?

Good morning Mamba24 and the fabulous CHAMPIONSHIP WINNING Laker morning CRUE!!!!

Ok - I know WE on the blog didn't win it, but hey - we'll take the limelight, right??!!

Laker Tom - yes I read your entire post. And yes I'm a Lakerholic.

OK - NO MORE TALK of Simers, Plaschke, troll A, troll B or troll C...

I"M BASKING HERE PEOPLE!!!!! YOU"RE IN MY SUN!!!!

I'm still on cloud 9 and loving every minute of it!

CONGRATULATIONS to your 2009 LOS ANGELES LAKERS!! CHAMPIONS OF THE NBA WORLD!!!!

YEEEEEEEEE HAWWWWWWWW!!!!!!!!!!

"**Should "the fun" include shots of you burning storefronts or jumping on cars, you might want to keep those to yourself. "

What if there is a black box over my eyes? Posted by: exhelodrvr | June 16, 2009 at 08:29 AM

Now cut that out. LoL!

BK,

I would actually encourage those "fans" that have shots of themselves burning storefronts, jumping on cars, looting, and throwing rocks, not only post those pictures but include their name and address so that the authorities can find them easily. I, like virtually all the rest of us that post or read this blog don't understand the idiots that do that stuff. Yeah! The Lakers won another championship - lets go burn stuff and loot! Brilliant. Jerks. Ruin it for the 99% that just want to enjoy the joy of the Lakers winning it all.

Eagleboy.

I ate some coldstone ice cream.

Here's a picture:

http://bit.ly/Dn3uW

Repost:
Jerry Buss made the right choice. Call him a ballhog. Call him selfish and arrogant. Call him whatever you want. But Jerry Buss bet the whole Laker house on Kobe. And he delivered...LONG BEFORE THIS! The 81 point game. The MVP. The leadership. The passion. The determination. Ignoring surgery on his fingers to keep fighting and keep pushing."

I'm pretty sure I've always said that Buss & Co. made the right choice picking Kobe over Shaq.

My gripe with Kobe, less all of the non-sense, was how immature he was and lack of "leadership" he displayed from 2004 through 2007. Kobe has matured over the years and lead a Laker team to a championship playing "the right way" (ie, team basketball).

Kobe has done right by LA in my book.

I still take offense to those Shaq-haters, but this is the time to celebrate the Laker championship.

'nuff said, Hulk Smash!!

Grrr!


Posted by: KL (fka KL_Beast) | June 15, 2009 at 11:36 AM

KL,
I got to give it to yo man. It takes a man to take his blindfold off and recognize the truth, I can appreciate that and respect you for that you are also as important as any "Jo" on this blog. I know you've risen my blood pressure at time but again it takes a man to post what you posted. I'm looking forward to disagree with you more in the years to come, and brother you've earn my respect.

BTW Mamba please put me on the TJ simmers bandwagon. I miss you guys!


Posted by: Mamba24Fan4Life | June 16, 2009 at 09:09 AM


I have footage of Staples/LA Live BEFORE the trees got uprooted and cop cars got bashed. Unfortunately, my computer is on the blink. As soon as it gets fixed, I'll upload to You Tube and post here.

justanothermambafan,

>>> Laker Tom - yes I read your entire post. And yes I'm a Lakerholic.

LOL. It is funny. I browse and skip through most of the online Lakers articles I read (unless it is Kevin Ding) but I always read all of AK and BK’s articles plus the comments and posts on the blog (unless it is a ridiculously long blitz-hobbitmage exchange, lol) including the great contributions from Mamba24 and Utzworld. Lots of gems hidden there for those of us who hunt them down. You can learn more about the Lakers and championship basketball reading this blog than anywhere else online.

Tom

BK,

Nice idea.

WE ARE THE LOS ANGELES LAKERS AND WE RISE!!!

What do we play for? RINGS!!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!!!

HOLLINGER PICKS LAKERS TO WIN NEXT YEAR?

Just read the start of Hollinger’s article picking the Lakers as the early favorite for next year but you need to be an insider to read the rest of the article. Man, I hate that teaser approach. Anybody who has insider subscription, could you post the balance of the article? Thanks.

Tom

I also would like to see any kind of live coverage (live blog anyone?), for all of us that are too far away of the central fun tomorrow. ¿Any Justin TV link for the parade? I hope so.

GOOO CHAMPIONS!!!

Hey, Mamba24,

Just wanted to say: That roll call yesterday was a total masterpiece. You are a good man, one of the best on the blog. To the entire Lakers Blog Family: You guys are the best. This blog is where I go in moments of extreme happiness AND disappointment. It's my oasis in the desert of crappy journalism. You guys are the best.

AK/BK, thanks for hosting.

Go Lake Show!

OK we won the NBA Championship, what is next?

I will take the left field here b/c I read posts that we're worried of the luxury taxes the JB will pay, we're worried of the annual pay of Lamar and/or Ariza, we're worried of the pay cut or increase on Kobe's opt out contract, now WHO IS WORRIED ABOUT THE LAKER FANS WHO ARE UNEMPLOYED OR UNDER EMPLOYED?

If NBA truly cares, it's not only teaching the kids how to read but helping their parents get re-training and become more competitive in the new markets of the 21st Century. In inner cities, there are lots of people dependent on hand outs and gov't social welfare yet our multi-millionaire players are not making any statements on that matter. Of course, they are not the public officials but merely public figures, but their popularity and leadership commands attention. How many of them among our NBA players in general can imitate Dikembe Motombo in aiding fellow Americans live prosperously? How do we cure hooliganism, riots etc? Then help create decent jobs, the jobs that will make Kobe's shoes, Gasol's jerseys, Laker Championship caps etc. i.e. labor directed and produced here at home at the industrial area of LA. It's a quid pro quo with the fans. "we will watch your games, if you could find us some money to spend through decent labor." Personally, I am just fed up of the endless political promises from left or right, from exploitation of the powerful and the ignorance of the governed. Passion should be redirected towards the improvement of one's family and raise their own level of living not totally focused on the entertainers' welfare. I am aware that I am asking impossible tasks but if nobody will try to solve it, then these are really unsolvable problems. Therefore, I throw the challenge again to hierarchy, after the celebration of Championship, what is next? Will it be deja vu all over again?

I will quote here 4 stanzas on Longfellow's Psalm Of Life as inspirations to the victors:

Life is real! Life is earnest!
And the grave is not its goal;
Dust thou art, to dust returnest,
Was not spoken of the soul.

Not enjoyment, and not sorrow,
Is our destined end or way;
But to act, that each to-morrow
Find us farther than to-day.

Art is long, and Time is fleeting,
And our hearts, though stout and brave,
Still, like muffled drums, are beating
Funeral marches to the grave.

In the world's broad field of battle,
In the bivouac of Life,
Be not like dumb, driven cattle!
Be a hero in the strife!

BUTLER WATCH DAY #2!

Still on the clock. Still ain't shown up to render his penance.

Personally, I don't think he has the courage. KL & Mike T are proving to be better men thus far.

Mamba: Where's that BUTLER WATCH Bandwagon?

So...

We've got to retain Kobe, Lamar, and Trevor, get rid of Sun Yue, develop Adam Morrison, and pray to God that He blesses us with an improbably good draft pick.

I'm down for keeping Josh Powell and DJ Mbenga while we're at it.

We do that and we should have another Championshp next year.

This team SHOULD be better next year... which is fantastically awesome.

WE ARE THE LOS ANGELES LAKERS AND WE RISE!!!!

What do we play for? RINGS!!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!!!

LakerTom,

"You can learn more about the Lakers and championship basketball reading this blog than anywhere else online."

I concur.

WE ARE THE LOS ANGELES LAKERS AND WE RISE!!!!

What do we play for? RINGS!!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!!!

LakerTom -

Per your request:

From John Hollinger (excerpt)

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The common refrain is that in a 30-team league, you need to find a few breaks along the way to win the championship. And certainly, the Lakers have had moments of good fortune in winning this one -- from Pau Gasol's sudden availability in the middle of last season to the unavailability of the Cavs or Celtics as a Finals opponent this season.

Yet what stands out the most about the Lakers' championship this season is how many things didn't go right for them, even during a championship season.

Remember how Andrew Bynum was supposed to be the difference-making big man the Lakers lacked a season ago? He was largely a nonfactor in the postseason. In the series-clinching win Sunday, he was responsible for the Lakers' only stretch of poor play, missing seven shots in the first five minutes and committing a turnover while the Magic raced out to a 15-6 lead. For the Finals as a whole, he had 30 points and 21 fouls.

Remember how the heir apparent at point guard, Jordan Farmar, was there to alleviate any age questions for Derek Fisher? Farmar bounced back a bit late in the playoffs but was such a basket case for most of the second half of the season that he lost minutes to scrap-heap pickup Shannon Brown. The Lakers ended up riding it out with Fisher, 34, at the point. Fisher shot 39.3 percent for the playoffs and 28.4 percent on 3s, and averaged 8 points per game, but L.A. won anyway.

Remember when Sasha Vujacic could make a shot? "The Machine" shot 43.7 percent on 3-pointers during the 2007-08 season and earned a three-year, $15 million deal as a free agent. He was supposed to be the guy to burn double-teams off Kobe Bryant and Pau Gasol. Instead, he went 0-for-The-Finals and was relegated to a bit player in the Lakers' rotation during the final two rounds of the playoffs; in the final seven games, he saw only 33 minutes.

All those things happened, but the Lakers won anyway. And in the end, they did it pretty easily. Houston gave them in a test in terms of the number of games played, but the Lakers notched their final two wins in the conference semifinals by 40 and 19 points. Denver gave them a good run, too, before the Lakers turned up the defense in the final six quarters and ran the Nuggets out of the gym. L.A. won the title without trailing a series worse than 1-0, and had a comfy 2-1 lead with home-court advantage at the three-game mark of every series.

And when you combine their championship trophy with all the bumps along the way and look ahead to next season, there's one obvious team to install as a clear favorite: the Lakers...

...Although Lamar Odom and Trevor Ariza both will be free agents (as will be Brown), the Lakers have the financial wherewithal to keep the team together if they so choose. As ESPN.com NBA writer J.A. Adande noted, the Lakers earned an extra $4 million from each of their 12 home playoff games thanks to the Staples Center revenue machine, which means they can afford to pay the luxury tax for a winner.

Even if they decide they can't keep both players, they still have the might to go after somebody else -- much as they did when Gasol unexpectedly became available from Memphis and the Lakers were the only team willing to go deep into the tax to add him. For one example, Adam Morrison's $5.25 million expiring contract could be a tasty morsel for a team looking to dump a more onerous contract belonging to a genuine contributor.


Nathaniel S. Butler/NBAE/Getty Images
Plagued by injuries the past two seasons, Andrew Bynum may be ready to break out in 2009-10.
Additionally, L.A. is young for a champion. Fisher is the only starter older than 30, while Kobe Bryant will turn 31 in August but has kept himself in outstanding shape. The other key players are all either in their prime (Odom and Luke Walton, 29; Gasol, 28; Vujacic, 25) or still very much on the upswing (Farmar, 22; Bynum, 21).

In fact, Farmar and Bynum are probably the biggest reason the Lakers are the league's scariest team: They still can get a whole lot better. As well as L.A. played in the final two rounds, it arguably was playing even better during the first two months of the season when Bynum was dominating at the defensive end and overpowering smaller centers.

He hurt his knee midseason, however, and was never the same afterward. When I talked to Bynum on Saturday, he still put his health at 80 percent and said it was frustrating that he couldn't do some of the things he used to.

Even in his diminished state, he was helpful simply because of his size. "We thought we'd helped ourselves by getting Andrew Bynum back again to give us some depth at the interior part of our game, shot-blocking, rebounding, sizewise," Lakers coach Phil Jackson said of his team entering the playoffs.

But now that the season is over, Bynum can take a step back and focus on fully rehabbing his knee instead of playing in games. And if he comes back as the player he was at the start of this season (or the season before, for that matter), L.A.'s already lofty ceiling moves several floors higher.

Farmar, meanwhile, is just as talented as he was a season ago, and he appeared to turn a corner late in the postseason. He'll have to cure his wayward shooting stroke (33.6 percent on 3s and 58.4 percent from the line during the regular season) and learn how to use his quickness better at the defensive end. But on a team that has lots of money locked up elsewhere, he's still the best hope for a quick upgrade at the point. And as much as he struggled this season, nobody doubts that he has the ability to provide such help.

Finally, the Lakers have another big advantage: Nobody seems ready to challenge their status as the elite team in the Western Conference. Although the Nuggets certainly were a strong contender this spring -- "Denver was physical and quick. They're an elite team," Jackson said -- the Nuggets still have to establish that they can compete at that level for an entire season. Plus, they will be facing a lot more financial constraints than L.A.

The other Western contenders have similar warts. San Antonio's age questions were laid bare in a first-round defeat, Houston has yet to show that its best players can stay upright for an entire season, and Utah is facing a potential luxury-tax whipsaw while trying to retain multiple key free agents.

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I cut some stuff out about the Eastern Conference teams but this is definitely most of it.

16 DOWN, RINGS TO GO........ REPOST

Yesterday was a holiday for me. Didn't feel like working, wanted to reflect, relax and just bask in another championship. Didn't read much of the blog, until now. I did read the TJ Simers article, wish i hadn't. Usually skip his drivel but he got me with the title. Talk about envious, dude is so jealous of Jackson, Kobe and the Laker's success, it's laughable.

I usually make it point to skip over Simers. I've just become fed up with his smug, cynical, all about me style of writing. Dude has morphed into a world class JACKASS. He has nothing really interesting or insightful to say, so he uses schtick to make up for his lack of talent.

I HAVE FARTS MORE INTERESTING THAN A TJ SIMERS COLUMN!!

Everyone just do yourself a favor, stop reading him. HE'S INSIGNIFICANT. JUST LIKE BUTLER AND COUNTLESS OTHERS. The less your react to him, the sooner he will be gone.

BACK TO SIGNIFICANT THINGS,..... WE'RE WORLD BLEEPING CHAMPIONS!!!!!!!!

LET'S GET LAMAR AND ARIZA SIGNED UP EARLY SO WE CAN ALL ENJOY THE SUMMER.

the entire Lakers Blog Family: You guys are the best. This blog is where I go in moments of extreme happiness AND disappointment. It's my oasis in the desert of crappy journalism. You guys are the best. Posted by: The Outlaw | June 16, 2009 at 09:31 AM

Hey Outlaw! How did Baby Outlaw like the beginning of his very own dynasty. Some kids have all the luck. LOL Thanks for the kind words my brother and right back at you. Take care man & have a good summer.
Larry(Mamba24)

I lit a victory cigar-ette for the Lakers and temporarily eschewed workplace productivity by reading up on all the articles that would allow me to bask in the championship when it was all done.

It was sweet vindication for our guys, especially Kobe, but I felt vindicated as a fan as well. I've been lurking here since the blog's inception, wary of getting drawn into long-drawn arguments, and just enjoyed the camaraderie here. Along with that, enduring the criticisms of people I'll never see (so why do I give a crap if they hate on Kobe?) after each painful loss, commiserating with the other diehards here. Now, for the Lakers/Kobe to go through so much crap (frequently brought upon them by their own hand) before succeeding is a Hollywood story on its own.

Thanks, Brothers K, for running such a fun blog. Forum Blue and Gold and Silver Screen and Roll are excellent, cerebral sites that I also love to browse, but this one, where the lunatics run the asylum, is the most enjoyable one out there. Love the wit and casual way you lead your posts. Man, I should have written "blogger" instead of "accountant" as my career choice.

Thanks also to Mamba24, for including me (heck, everyone) in his roll call. It feels good to be included in the same post as the Laker legends. The only other place is in my custom Laker lineups in PS3.

See you all next season, when we gun for our back-to-back. I now need to catch up on work. ^_^

Buttler is probably crying in a corner somewhere. Not only did the Lakers win the championship, they had an ESPN poll asking if Gnash would ever win a ring with the Phoenix Duns. 85% said no. His poor little heart is cracking.


LA Lakers, 2009 NBA Champions

In the world's broad field of battle,
In the bivouac of Life,
Be not like dumb, driven cattle!
Be a hero in the strife! Posted by: Edwin Gueco | J

Edwin you are giving us a Liberal Arts education while we talk sports. Thank you my mentor for all that you do. I know you'll be here all summer but I'll still wish you a good summer anyway.
Larry(Mamba24)

Anyone know if Kobe gets any sort of performance bonus with Nike? IMO, he should re-up with them, not the Lakers.

In my ideal scenario for Kobe, confers with Odom and Ariza to take less money and make the most of their run together AND he renegotiates with Nike to make more money than Lebron based on performance and sales. Winning is a bigger and better product to sell than potential.

JMHO.

#4

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BUTLER WATCH - BANDWAGON
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(01) utzworld THE BANNER HOLDER - Owner
(02) MAMBA24 - Driver

Utz, i think he was arrested for starting a riot, damaging public and private property and for being in possession of a loser team jersey.

Jon K. -

I agree with your moves for the off-season, but shouldn't we keep Shannon Brown as well?

Perhaps we can trade Morrison to Cleveland for Sasha Pavlovic's partially guaranteed 4.5 million salary (can be bought out for 1.5 million, which would save 3 million even though the 4.5 million would count against the cap number).

That way, we can offer a larger expiring contract to Cleveland so they can have some more money to try to keep LeBron, and we can have the space to keep Shannon as well as everyone else you mentioned.

Still celebrating but this in the Times "Money Talks"

"Sasha Vujacic will make $10.5 million over the next two seasons,"

Just a thought, ever since he moved in with Katie Cassidy, who was a "factor" or at least around when Matt Leinart went from a starting to the bench, Sasha turned a break out into a bust. Mitch needs funds and we need the championship core back.

THis is where the Lakers Most Valuable Asset, Jerry Buss, dominates. He needs to ante up and if Sasha remains on the payroll next season, maybe offer some relationship advice. Experience with dysfunction being the best teacher, he dominates that court as well.

Jugglin' the numbers, a summertime of Laker fun and some of the blog's best work.

{Said in the voice of Judge Elihu Smails from "Caddyshack"}

Okay, Butler... WE'RE WAITING!

WE ARE THE LOS ANGELES LAKERS AND WE RISE!!!!

What do we play for? RINGS!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!!!

Hey Mamba24 and everybody else... I know it's probably been pretty slow around here but I wanted to drop by and say hello.
I would give anything to be in L.A. celebraing tomorrow. Instead I'll be watching from my office in Boston. If anyoen knows who will have a live feed, please post it.

After tomorrow, we sit back and watch what the Lakers will do with the contract situations. Iknow DJ Mbenga is supposed to be released by June 30th so I won't be surprised when that happens but I want to watch out for the Odom, Ariza, Kobe (opt-out) stuff.

FEEDING MY JONES…

One of the best things about being a Lakerholic is the thrill you get whenever the ball goes up and a Lakers game begins. It is more exciting than the best of the best illegal substances. It is this thrill that makes Lakers junkies return to their addiction over and over.

What used to be one of the worst things about being a Lakerholic was going cold-turkey once the season and playoffs are over. Today, however, we have the Lakers Blog, where desperate Lakerholics can receive instant mini-fixes of virtual methadone in the form of Lakers articles, videos, links, as well as an interactive forum for Lakers junkies.

Last night, I revved up the DVR and replayed Game 5 to relive the thrill of victory. This morning, to get the work day off to a great start, I played “The Making of a Beast” on my work computer and then logged into the LA Times Lakers Blog as I downed my first Coke of the day and rued the fact that I cannot get away from work to make the big parade.

Of course, this summer Lakerholics received the most effective treatment ever developed to help Lakerholics manage their jones – an NBA championship patch. Now, when Lakers junkies cannot connect to the blog for a mini-fix, they can instead just click a button in their mind and bring back the memory of winning the NBA championship and anticipation that this is really just the start of another LA Lakers dynasty and everything will be fine.

For Lakerholics, there can be no greater reward or pleasure than knowing that this year’s championship is merely the end of the beginning or the just the first leg in a multi-title run that will likely last for at least another 5 or 6 years. It’s like knowing that your drug dealer just stockpiled enough uncut product to guarantee you a high quality stuff for years – and you have been given the only key to the storeroom. LOL.

So don’t run and hide during the summer, Lakerholics. Instead, let’s keep the discussion going and our jones well fed. Working together as a team, we can help each other make it through the dog days of summer. We have the draft, free agency, and some possible mega trades coming up as major events for all Lakerholics to shoot up to feed their addictions. Working together, we can make it all the way to October and the start of next season.

My initial takes are that we will have zero problem re-signing Lamar and Trevor and Shannon. I also still believe that Kobe will opt out and re-sign for a longer contract for $18M to $20M per year to give the Lakers another $3M to $5M per year for other players in a move designed to restore his marketing potential to pre-Colorado levels and show the rest of the NBA and the world that winning is more important than money. What say you?

I also believe we will see Andrew Bynum come to camp in superb condition with a fully rehabilitated right knee, no more leg brace, and the will to dominate all next season like he dominated during January before he got injured. I predict we will see the Drew who won NBA Player of the Week last January starting with the season opener. What say you?

The LA Times Lakers Blog – the 24/7/365 source for Lakerholic fixes and patches.

Tom

"You can learn more about the Lakers and championship basketball reading this blog than anywhere else online"

Tom

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Totally agree. Not only reading AK and BK, some of the bloggers have an outsanding knowledge.

AK/BK

You should make a post dedicated to the parade. You know like any information you might know that we might now know. Any tips or tricks. Such as where is the best place to find parking or should we go straight to the colisium or walk from staples with the parade. You a post where people who have been there before can give some tips for the first timers.

Go Lakers
Champs 09

Here's the official announcement with details on Wednesday's celebration:

The parade to salute the 2009 NBA Champion Los Angeles Lakers will take place this Wednesday, June 17th. The parade will begin at STAPLES Center and travel south on Figueroa Street to the Los Angeles Memorial Coliseum where a victory celebration will take place in front of an expected capacity crowd of 95,000 Lakers fans.

Beginning at 11:00 AM, double-decker busses carrying the players, coaching staff, Lakers executives and City officials will depart from STAPLES Center at Figueroa and Chick Hearn Ct. and travel a nearly two mile parade route along Figueroa to the Coliseum where the "official" championship ceremony will take place beginning at noon.

All Lakers fans are invited to stand along Figueroa to cheer the Lakers players having just won the fifteenth NBA Championship in the franchise's history. The first 95,000 fans to arrive at the Los Angeles Memorial Coliseum will be invited inside to attend a ceremony during which City and team officials, Coach Phil Jackson and several players will address the crowd. Coliseum gates will open beginning at 9:30 AM for early arriving fans who will be able to watch the parade on giant video screens in addition to being entertained by the Laker Girls and other special guests.

Please be aware of the following street closures planned for Wednesday, June 17th. Figueroa will be closed from Olympic to Exposition Park from 8am-12pm. Chick Hearn Court will be closed from 9am-4pm. Cherry will be closed from Pico to Olympic from 9am-2pm. In addition, the Exposition Blvd, Martin Luther King Blvd, Adams and Olympic exits from the 110 freeway will be closed from 10am until the end of the parade.

Great Mitch Kupchak quote:

"I think we could be in position to advance to the Finals for the next three, four years," general manager Mitch Kupchak said during the locker-room celebration after the Lakers' 15th title. "But this summer we'll have some free-agent issues we'll have to address."

Tom

Puddle -

Thanks for letting us read the Hollinger article. I appreciate it!


MAMBA24 -

Hope you're enjoying everything out in L.A. If I may humbly ask, would you please put me on the BUTLER watch bandwagon? I'd like to hear what kind of apology will be offered to the blog crue.

Hope everyone is having a good day!

BUTT-LER........

OH BUTT-LER BOY..........

WHERE ARE YOU?????????

You KNOW you want to man up here.

COME ON little buddy!!!!!

You don't want us all to KNOW you're pitiful (as opposed to just thinking it).........DO YOU??????

Good Morning Charles...Good Morning Everyone....

so now it's the official off season and time for organizations to try to build a team to compete and win a championship..

there are a lot of free agents out there (LTLF how about a complete list) and the draft coming uip, as well as trade options available for teams to utilize in their quest...

the other 29 teams in the league ultimately have one goal this season and that is to try to build their teams to beat the Lakers...

in the East, teams will be building not only to get thru the Eastern play offs but then to compete and beat the Lakers...

in the West all teams have to beat the Lakers, it's that simple for them...they probably won't even look past that to plan on an opponent in the East...

The Lakers have their priority as well...and that's continue to build a Dynasty....they indeed have many pieces in place...

of course their free agents are their most pressing matter and how they can sign them using the salary cap and possible trades to free up the money they need...

the Lakers also have what I feel are some very tradable assets if they so choose to use them...Morrison and his expiring contract, Sasha, Walton, Sun, Farmar etc...

not that I advbocate trading any othe above, other than Morrison possibly, but we do have some options to try and improve this team...

I have faith in Mitch that he will do just that somehow, as well as re-signing all three free agents...

there is also the distinct possibility that a quality veteran will sign on the cheap just to be a part of this Dynasty...

this will prove to be a very interesting summer to say the least...

AS ALWAYS, AS EVER, YET ANOTHER GREAT DAY (AND CHAMPIONSHIP SEASON) TO BE A LAKER FAN !!!

GO LAKERS !!!

Cold turkey schmold schmurkey.

We got the blog!

We got the Tivo!

It's aaaalllll good Laker Tom!

We shall overcome! We shall make it through the dog days of summer!

As Jon K says - WE RISE!!! LOL!

Can you tell I'm still psyched about this wonderful win???

Butler,
are you a spineless jellyfish or just having a hard time coming up with excuses? Step up to the plate little man, we all read your crap this year, it's time to pay the piper..

Caliphilosopher,

Thanks for catching me on that one.

Yeah, we should keep Shannon Brown.

WE ARE THE LOS ANGELES LAKERS AND WE RISE!!!

What do we play for? RINGS!!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!!!

"They" refers to Lakers management.

There isn't a (potentially) good replacement for Ariza currently on the roster. I see his re-signing the most likely of the three.

How much money they are willing to give Odom will depend on how confident they are that Bynum will have a relatively injury-free future. A healthy Bynum makes Odom a luxury, not a necessity. A decent PF/C backup is needed, though, but can probably be signed for less than what Odom would make. (Not sure about Powell; he looked good in limited time during the regular season, and I thought showed promise for filling that role, but I was disappointed in his play during the playoffs.)

What do they think about the future of Farmar and Vujacic? That will determine how much they are willing to spend to re-sign Brown.

(Note that I don't see much potential in Morrison, Yue, or Mbenga. I think that they are just roster fillers.)

So in the spirit of LakerTom's post, I ask if anyone has read the latest from Bill Simmons? Not sure why I did, guess I can't stop clicking on stupid internet links! Has any writer ever been more obsessed with one specific player? And had more of a need to prove his own intellectual superiority to everyone else? The worst part, at least to me, is his obvious use of specific, biased information to make his case (or his inability to recognize that he's doing it). Does he think all of us are this stupid or is he this stupid?

Very odd fellow, this Bill Simmons. I think this level of obsessive behavior goes beyond the need for internet hits. It's actually kind of creepy...

LakerTom,

The day after the draft to the day before training camp is the longest, most boring time of the year.

Summer league gives me a quick fix, but otherwise it's like watching paint dry.

Urgh.

Lakerholicism is a cruel mistress during the offseason.

Ugh.

WE ARE THE LOS ANGELES LAKERS AND WE RISE!!!

What do we play for? RINGS!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!!!

A couple of comments about the post-victory riots - I don't condone the bad behavior, but the relatively few people (considering we're the second largest city in the U.S.) who rioted don't represent the majority and one could argue that statistically the number of people was a smaller percentage of the population than that of other cities. Look at the links of videos from the post-victory riots in Boston and Philadelphia and the number of people looks similar to those for the Lakers. So given that LA is much larger than Boston and Philadelphia combined, the percentage of idiots was actually small.

http://snipurl.com/k8qkm
http://snipurl.com/k8qvz

I think the Lakers should trade their first round pick. No need to pay guaranteed money for someone who won't play.

BUTLER WATCH - BANDWAGON
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(01) utzworld THE BANNER HOLDER - Owner
(02) CALIPHILOSOPHER - Driver
(03) MAMBA24 - Riding Shotgun
(04) JUSTANOTHERMAMBAFAN - Security
(05)

puddle,

Thanks for posting the Hollinger article. My Insider subscription had lapsed and I was so pissed at ESPN that I vowed I wouldn’t renew even though it is peanuts per month. Anyway, this was probably the best article I have ever read from Hollinger.

Here was what I thought were a couple of very interesting excerpts, including some information on how much playing in the playoffs helps a team profit-wise.

>>>

And when you combine their championship trophy with all the bumps along the way and look ahead to next season, there's one obvious team to install as a clear favorite: the Lakers...

NOW THE INSIDER STUFF, THANKS TO PUDDLE:

...Although Lamar Odom and Trevor Ariza both will be free agents (as will be Brown), the Lakers have the financial wherewithal to keep the team together if they so choose. As ESPN.com NBA writer J.A. Adande noted, the Lakers earned an extra $4 million from each of their 12 home playoff games thanks to the Staples Center revenue machine, which means they can afford to pay the luxury tax for a winner.

[Maybe we should have let the series go to 7 games to make another $8M – about what we will have to pay Lamar. LOL.]

Even if they decide they can't keep both players, they still have the might to go after somebody else -- much as they did when Gasol unexpectedly became available from Memphis and the Lakers were the only team willing to go deep into the tax to add him. For one example, Adam Morrison's $5.25 million expiring contract could be a tasty morsel for a team looking to dump a more onerous contract belonging to a genuine contributor.

[Hollinger is the first analyst to understand that the Lakers are in a great position – We are the Yankees of the NBA right now.]

Plagued by injuries the past two seasons, Andrew Bynum may be ready to break out in 2009-10. Additionally, L.A. is young for a champion. Fisher is the only starter older than 30, while Kobe Bryant will turn 31 in August but has kept himself in outstanding shape. The other key players are all either in their prime (Odom and Luke Walton, 29; Gasol, 28; Vujacic, 25) or still very much on the upswing (Farmar, 22; Bynum, 21).

In fact, Farmar and Bynum are probably the biggest reason the Lakers are the league's scariest team: They still can get a whole lot better. As well as L.A. played in the final two rounds, it arguably was playing even better during the first two months of the season when Bynum was dominating at the defensive end and overpowering smaller centers.

He hurt his knee midseason, however, and was never the same afterward. When I talked to Bynum on Saturday, he still put his health at 80 percent and said it was frustrating that he couldn't do some of the things he used to.

Even in his diminished state, he was helpful simply because of his size. "We thought we'd helped ourselves by getting Andrew Bynum back again to give us some depth at the interior part of our game, shot-blocking, rebounding, sizewise," Lakers coach Phil Jackson said of his team entering the playoffs.

But now that the season is over, Bynum can take a step back and focus on fully rehabbing his knee instead of playing in games. And if he comes back as the player he was at the start of this season (or the season before, for that matter), L.A.'s already lofty ceiling moves several floors higher.

[You can see that Hollinger has been doing his homework and reading the blog. LOL.]

Farmar, meanwhile, is just as talented as he was a season ago, and he appeared to turn a corner late in the postseason. He'll have to cure his wayward shooting stroke (33.6 percent on 3s and 58.4 percent from the line during the regular season) and learn how to use his quickness better at the defensive end. But on a team that has lots of money locked up elsewhere, he's still the best hope for a quick upgrade at the point. And as much as he struggled this season, nobody doubts that he has the ability to provide such help.

[An excellent analysis of Farmar, who contrary to blitz’s opinion, is a far better point guard prospect than Shannon Brown, who does not have the skills to play the point as a starter.]

Finally, the Lakers have another big advantage: Nobody seems ready to challenge their status as the elite team in the Western Conference. Although the Nuggets certainly were a strong contender this spring -- "Denver was physical and quick. They're an elite team," Jackson said -- the Nuggets still have to establish that they can compete at that level for an entire season. Plus, they will be facing a lot more financial constraints than L.A.

[Another walk-through for the Lakers to get to the Finals compared to a dog fight between the Magic, Celtics, and Cavs. I like it. I think it will Boston against us next year as Dwight joins LeBron for a fishing expedition. LOL.]

>>>

Tom

Congrates on our Lakers.


Mr. Nano.

>>> Utz, i think he was arrested for starting a riot, damaging public and
>>> private property and for being in possession of a loser team jersey.

Loved the ‘loser team jersey” bit. LMAO. Good jab, Mr. Nano.

Tom

Trolls have no dignity nor do they have honor.

Did you really expect him to show up and sincerely apologize to the everyone for all the hate he spewed?

PROVE ME WRONG BUTLER!

; o )

rdlee,
I think we should keep the 29th pick.. what if a guy like Wayne Ellington falls to us., We could certainly use the 3 point shooting what with the breakdown of The Machine..

LGFI

ex,

>>> How much money they are willing to give Odom will depend on how confident
>>> they are that Bynum will have a relatively injury-free future. A healthy Bynum
>>> makes Odom a luxury, not a necessity.

It’s not often that I disagree with the blog’s dean of common sense and wisdom but this is one of those times. I think Lamar Odom is an absolute necessity for this team to re-sign regardless of how well or healthy Andrew Bynum plays for the following reasons:

1. Lamar is insurance against an injury or foul problems with Drew or Pau. We have already seen how important that insurance is the last two years. The only time you cancel your insurance is when you cannot afford it. We cannot afford NOT to have Lamar.

2. Lamar allows us to always have an All-Star level player on the floor at center and power forward for 48 minutes per game. He can still play starter minutes even though he is coming off the bench. Basically, he allows us to dominate the post the entire game.

3. Lamar is playing the best basketball of his life right now, showing the consistency that he always lacked and the talent everybody loves. If Drew really takes off, then Lamar could easily get additional minutes at small forward now that he has his stoke back.

4. I actually am hoping down the road to see a lineup with Kobe at the 1, Trevor at the 2, Lamar at the 3, Pau at the 4, and Drew at the 5.

No way do we NOT re-sign Lamar Odom. If the Lakers really pull down $4M per home playoff game as J.A. Adande claims, then it should be a slam dunk to re-sign Lamar. I predict Lamar will sign for 3 years at $8M, $9M, and $10M – and Trevor for 3 years at $5M, $6M, and $7M. JMHO.

Tom

Well...since the clock has been running for over 24 hours, I know who's the first Troll to bury!

IN REMEMBRANCE OF FALLEN TROLLS: The Utzworld Post Championship 2009 Eulogies

TRIBUTE 1: BUTLER

GNASH
SHACK
ODUMB
BYNUMB
KOBY

The aformentioned desecration of the English language masquerading as on-purpose attempts as "cool and hip" ways to spell NBA players' names has become part of the Lakers Blog lexicon thanks to this poor fallen soul - a soul so devoid of hope and full of deranged madness that he accounts a career of a point guard who has never played (and PROBABLY WILL NEVER PLAY...UNLESS HE COMES HERE!) an NBA Finals game as GREATER than that of our current 4 Time NBA champion and newly crowned Finals MVP. His madness is so boweled in the abyss of near insanity that he proudly counts the Phoenix Suns's lone head to head victory of the 2008-09 season (and first win against the Purple & Gold since 2007) as a winning streak. As further proof of this poor soul's descent into oblivion, we at Lakers Blog expect to see him foolishly and mind-boggingly attribute the Los Angeles Lakers 2009 NBA Championship as nothing more than a victory for the Phoenix Suns.

Somewhere, in that dark, humid and lonely basement in Arizona, he sits. Rotting? Corpsing? Planning his retort to Laker Nation in a feeble attempt to deemphasize and mock our COMPLETE AND TOTAL VICTORY? I think so.

He is like a fly. You know, those flies that buzz right next to your ear when you're trying to take a nice afternoon nap? You shoo it away and it comes back louder and stronger?

That's him.

Some have compared him to Gollum/Smeagol of Lord Of The Rings. I, myself, compared him to that hunchbacked, deformed guy from "300" who sold his soul to the Persians because King Leonidas knew he didn't have the chops to serve in the Spartan army.

His taunts are legendary - and INFURIATING! He mocked us. He insulted us. With every win, he stuck in smart-aleck comments one after another. With every loss, he burst open with joy like a kid on Christmas Day opening a brand new pack of Hot Wheels.

As the noose closed in around him, his taunts became greater and greater. But I, the mighty prayer warrior of Lakers Blog struck back! WITH VIGOR!

THE BET: If we lost the Championship, I would lead us in a confession that everything he said about KOBY & GNASH was right. That Steve Nash is a better team leader than Kobe and that the Nash led Suns are indeed a superior team than the Lakers.

BUT GOD...

(gotta pause and rejoice after that!)

BUT GOD HIMSELF just could not bring me to tell that lie! God would not let us stoop down to his level and join in with his madness! So God ordered certain steps in the scheme in the universe:

- A wide open layup with 0.2 seconds left on the clock gets MISSED.

- The Heart, Soul & Leader of the Orlando Magic, with less than something seconds left and a 3 point lead goes to the free throw line. Just one made free throw would seal in their victory. One free throw: CLANK! 2nd free throw: CLANK CLANK!

- The Spiritual Soul of the Los Angeles Lakers, whom many in the sports world and even Laker Nation itself dismissed as past his prime, gets a wide open 3 point shot - SWISH! 3 1/2 minutes later in Overtime: ANOTHER!

- A 16-0 run in the 2nd Quarter of Game 5 turns into a 13 point win - and a SCOWL turns upside down into a mighty GRIN!

Final Score at the close of the NBA Season:

KOBE BRYANT: 4 RINGS
THE LOS ANGELES LAKERS: 15 RINGS
STEVE NASH/THE PHOENIX SUNS: Z E R O!!!

And so we wait. Wait for confession. Wait for manhood. Wait for acceptance.

We know you're out there. Reading every word of this. You lost the bet. You have to confess it. No strings and no asterisks and no BS attached!

The Los Angeles Lakers are better than the Phoenix Suns. Always have been. Always will be.

Kobe Bryant is the best player in the NBA. Steve Nash ain't even in the conversation.

Search your feelings, my child. You know this to be true. Always have known it. ALWAYS WILL KNOW IT.

So continue to mispell names. Go ahead and salivate next Fall at our first loss of the season. Talk your noise. We will gladly reference you to the noise of 95,000 Lakerholics celebrating good times at the LA Colliseum on June 17, 2009...and millions more WORLDWIDE.

Y'all play for Pacific Divison Banners
We play for rings.
WE GET RINGS!

You show me Steve Nash's 2 MVP's and I'll raise you Kobe's 4 rings, his 1 season MVP & 1 Finals MVP. More hardware than you'll ever see!

You mocked us. You teased us. But WE RISE - TO THE TOP!

Raise your glasses, Laker Nation, and pour a swig on the curb, and burst a kidney in uncontrollable laughter & delight for today's fallen soul: BUTLER. Boyish enough to talk smack. Ain't man enough to give credit where credit is due.

TO BUTLER: ANOTHER TROLL BITES THE DUST

AMEN!!!

Am I right if I say that LO will have to cut his salary to stay in Lakers or I haven't understood a clue?

more thoughts or so,

hello my name is Floyd and as I have said before, I am a Lakerholic...

another great post by LakerTom and as he and everybody else has said, this blog is the best treatment any of us can get during the offseason...thanks everyone again for being here...

besides our three free agents whom I would like to see re-signed (and indeed ahave a strong feeling they will be), keeping Mbenga would be a great thing in my mind as well if it is possible, he is actually quite an (under utilized, as it were) asset...

also hope we keep Powel and not have to include him in a trade...

as someone said, the Lakers need to decide on the potential of both Sasha and Farmar and if they deem them more valuable as trade fodder...

I would think if Mitch can find a deal that makes sense he may trade either one of those or both etc.

and the same is true for Sun and Morrison obviously...

and I just have the feeling that another Rick Fox type deal is going to be coming our way, especially in leu of us winning the Championship and the Dynasty we are building...

it also seems that the perception of playing along side of Kobe has changed, as well as the attractiveness of playing along side some of our other players and playing and living in LA of course...

in other words, the future is very bright and the fun just begining...

GO LAKERS !!!

Pau is my Homeboy! Look at this awesome Pau shirt I just found on the net. I bought 3!

www.paushirt.com

TRADE Fugazzi, "Me-First, KOBE,!!!!!

Lets build a real professional balanced "TEAM"
A team we can be proud of
Not a Jack Nicholson LA FAKERS,!!!!!!!
Lets go
Who's with me?

"Lets build a real professional balanced "TEAM"

Not to beat a dead horse but, here go them Game 5 stats for the visually and mentally impaired.

Kobe: 30 pts
LO; 17 pts
Gasol: 14 pts
Ariza: 15 pts
D Fish: 12 pts

(not to mention Kobe's 7 assist average in the Finals, a certain pair of 3 pointers at the end of Game 4, and the points scored by Farmar, Luke & Drew in Game 5).

Yeah...REAL IMBALANCED! KOBE IS THE CANCER AFTER ALL! TRADE HIM!

Or, perhaps, trade the guys on SportsCenter who create the highlight reels...cause that's all you TROLLS seem to watch anyway!

LakerTom,

I hope they do sign Lamar. Personally, I would pay to re-sign him, because I don't trust Bynum's health at this point. But will the Lakers front office sign him, if he asks for say, $10M per year, and Ariza is asking for $6M per year, or will they gamble on Bynum's knees and go with Powell and Mbenga, or possibly sign a more experienced backup with the MLE? (Both of those are realistic figures, depending on what other teams are willing to give them.)

Remember that the luxury tax threshold will almost certainly be lowered by several million starting in 2010 (automatiically, due to overall decrease in revenue).

utzworld,

That may have been the most divinely inspired scourging of a troll EVER.

Butler, if you're out there somewhere, be a man and apologize.

All we have as men in our lives is our word, after all.

WE ARE THE LOS ANGELES LAKERS AND WE RISE!!!

What do we play for? RINGS!!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!!!

Laker Tom,

About that Jordan can play better PG than Shannon Brown, I can argue the same thing to Ron Harper, Brian Shaw, heck even Derek Fisher. Skill wise Jordan is better than all of them really. The problem is with Jordan is that he's not physical enough for big guards, even with some quick guards when he isn't the one scoring he gets beaten in transition (how the heck did a unathletic guy like JJ Reddick beat him down the court is beyond anyone's guess) and is prone to individual play way too much. The biggest reason I say that Jordan got playing time over SB in the Finals was his experience in last year's finals were more credit than SB's limited one in 2007 with Cleveland was. If SB should be re-signed then they pretty much look to be equal footing.

Fisher by no means is capable of playing a true PG. He couldn't be the starting PG in Golden State (replaced by Speedy Claxton and Baron Davis) and had to play SG in Utah. Fish simply fits in best with the Lakers and skill-wise SB is closer to Fish than Farmar is.

Love though how you called Ex the Dean. He brings the best analysis (though can always disagree with) and is not stuck in homerisms like Pfunk36 excuse me PFRAUD36 and the rest of the PFRAUD36ITES are.

"Lets build a real professional balanced "TEAM"
A team we can be proud of"

Hmm if you are who you say you are (which almost everyone here DOUBTS) then I guess you prefer Eddie Jones and Nick Van Exel and Vlade Divac days? Not a diss at either of those 3 (maybe Divac because of his flopping in Sacramento) but those days I disliked most about the Lakers. True they kept themselves in playoff contention but what was the point? Unless Shaq came the Dodgers were more interesting to watch. If you like no titles then so be it. TRUE Laker fans will enjoy this title thank you very much and having a Go to guy like Kobe.

Old school Laker Fan - likes losing and the LA Clippers aka Mark Jackson.

Floyd,

>>>there are a lot of free agents out there (LTLF how about a complete list)

Complete list isn't worth it. Do you really need to know that Jerome
James is available? Or Devean George for that matter?

In a couple of days, I'll cook up my suggestions for replacements
in case some team makes a huge offer to Lamar or Trevor or
Shannon.


To The Umbudsman for ESPN,

Bill Simmons is a self proclaimed "Boston guy", who is bringing a level of Karl Rovian bias to his "opinion pieces" on ESPN.com. He makes derogatory statements and debased arguments about any and every thing Lakers. Paints the city, it's team and it's star player as something with less real value than toilet paper and frankly is annoying the heck out of the sizable corner of non “Boston guys” reading these pages. His delivery is samey enough that there is a write like Bill Simmons website out there. He practically plagiarizes himself every week, churning out the same psycho babble about people families, character, moods, personalities and integrity while admitting that he does not know what he is talking about and is basing all this on the television and his emotions.

Normally, it is just of mild curiosity to me that he stays employed but to regurgitate the nonsense he just put out this morning, after all the garbage he has been spewing all week is more than I can bear. This is the same imbecile for whom we had to endure his over the top celebration of Boston Celtics championship, on these pages last year. If he is only here he to express his biased views about Boston and her perceived rivals; should his work not be restricted more to his target audience, pre pubescent adults from New England? Why subject the rest of your readership to his childlike tantrums and indulge this irreverent and scathing attacks on entities and personalities that he does not like, is this Sports or TMZ? He virtually uses this Magazine as toilet bowl for airing all his personal grievances and dumping all his juvenile personality disorders.

If he wrote an original column every once in a while it would not be so bad, but the guy has been mailing it in for about three years and is relying on the stale aroma of previous entreats to keep the customer coming. Considering how his always harping on athletes for being lazy, out of touch and phony, I sometimes wonder if the man owns a mirror? His megalomania is such that on the few occasions when this “gift of the Gods” to sports journalism does come down from the mountain he expects to be greeted with thunderous applause.

Coliseum only seats 100K. What do u do with the other one million?

Bad idea. Its gonna get crazy for the rest who can't get in.

Get the riot police ready!

Not sure if you guys read this article by Simmons, but it explains the so-called "kobe hater's" mentality.

Old School Laker Fan

>>>TRADE Fugazzi, "Me-First, KOBE,!!!!!

Didn't you mean Troll School Laker Fan?

If you were a Laker Fan, you would want them to win championships.
If they trade Kobe, the likelyhood of winning any of those drops
to near zero for the next few years.

"Me-First" Kobe (as you call him) averaged the most assists
of any Laker in the finals since Magic Johnson. And only two
other players in the HISTORY OF THE NBA have averaged
as many points and assists as he did in the finals: Michael
Jordan and Jerry West.

Don't be a hater. Hate sends you to the dark side of the force.
And remember that you only have to rearrange a couple of
letters of "sith" to get the word that describes what their heads
are full of.

Maybe Butler is still looking for D-howard
http://tinyurl.com/n5nk9q

HUMAN RESOURCE ISSUES AND CONCERNS:

Either all of you, I mean the addict bloggers and you know who you are are with out a job or not focusing at their job.

Y'all should have been cheer leaders and what an ugly pic it would make, beer belly, hairy legs, ya'll holding a POM POM and screaming out loud:

WE ARE THE LOS ANGELES LAKERS AND WE RISE!!!

What do we play for? RINGS!!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

VP of HR

utzworld -

OUTSTANDING

WOW

Ladies and gents - now THAT is how you BBQ a troll.

My hat is off to the master.

yellofever:

MAKE THAT 1,000,999 AS WILL NOT BE ATTENDING.

HOPE THIS HELPS ALLEVIATE YOUR CONCERN.

GENEROUS

Coliseum only seats 100K. What do u do with the other one million?

Bad idea. Its gonna get crazy for the rest who can't get in.

Get the riot police ready!

Posted by: yellofever

I'll take a me-first Kobe as long as it gets us championships.

Championships are an old school way of saying "I'm better than you."

MORE ON LAKER CONTRACTS AND PENDING FA STATUS:

1. ariza- FA nxt year - MUST RESIGN. absolute keeper. Will only continue to improve. SORELY NEED HIS ATHLETICISM AT THE 3 esp with luke as backup. Will be ideal to resign for 6 MIL

2 shannon- FA nxt year- MUST RESIGN. Desperately need his defense for pt guard. Kobe desperately will need his perimeter defensive help at guard position. Ideal to resign at 3 MIL

3. Kobe- FA in 2011-12.... WILL RETIRE A LAKER.

4. Bynum- FA in 2013-14... Lot of his critics say bad contract but in his defense had he not gotten injured he wouldve been unrestricted free agent after this year... Lakers prob risk losing him or maybe have to pay more. At least we lock in the future

5. Farmar- FA in 2011-12.... Bargain at less than 3mil... I say keep him with 3 pt guard rotation and limit dfish minutes

6. Lamar-FA nxt year- biggest mystery this summer but my guess is buss never breaks up winning formula so will most likely offer 8-10 max. (8 would be ideal any more let him walk and go to plan B)

7 gasol- FA in 2011-12.... 2 more rings and retire 12

8. Dfish- FA in 2010-11.... Hella money when it counts but for future nothing but diminishing returns. Hopefully will accept declining minutes and retire a hero

9. Luke- FA in 2013-14.... Biggest waste of salary cap and longest contract in our books. Extremely expandable esp with arizas emergence. Absolutely untradeable and probably worthless anywhere without a triangle. So not going anywhere. Where's the tums?

10. Sasha- FA in 2011-12.... market value dropped in playoffs like a nanostock. Not worth anything now so wait till gets nxt year and I say trade as soon as stock goes back up

11. Morrison- FA in 2011-12.... Still intriguing option and I like to replace luke as backup. Has smarts and outside shot we need. I say has lots of upside since playing with kobe

12 sun yue... FA ?? - who cares. This guy was probably signed for marketing and I'm sure lakers made more money selling jerseys in china than what his contract is worth.

Yo K bros... Anyway u could post everyones contracts and what they're worth? Rotoworld has a page for that but not updated.


Since we are just forecasting we might as well try to shoot for the stars in order to land in the moon. Here are my wish lists:

Renegotiate Kobe for 20M (5 years w/ player’s option on 3rd year)
LO will agree to 8M ( escalating for 3years 9, 10M)
Trevor will agree to 7 M (escalating for 3 years 8 & 9)
Shannon will agree for 2M (escalating for 3 years 3 & 4)

Bynum, Fisher and Gasol contracts will remain the same

Find a good trading value of our 4 players (17.8M) reduced to two good 2nd unit players(9M) Here are the players on wish trade list:

Walton 4.8M contract for four more years
Farmar 2M “ for two more years
Vujacic 5M “ for two more years
Morrison 6M “ for 1 more year

Decide on Mbenga, Sun Yue and Powell before preseason

Get two 3 pt. shooters from the 1st and 2nd round draft picks

Re-sign Phil for 2 more years, if he declines get Coach K or Coach Howland to change the Laker coaching philosophy.

Kobe - 20M
Gasol - 16.8M
Bynum - 12.5M
Odom - 8.0M
Ariza - 7.0M
Fisher - 5.0M
Shannon - 2.0M

New 2 players 5.0M
4.0M

Mbenga 0.9M
Powell 0.8M
Sun Yue 0.7M

Total 82.7M excess 0f 7.7 luxury taxes

LakerTom,

you wrote: 4. I actually am hoping down the road to see a lineup with Kobe at the 1, Trevor at the 2, Lamar at the 3, Pau at the 4, and Drew at the 5.

My response: After watching Ariza play *STELLAR*
defense, hit open 3's &&& make steals, why do you want
Lamar to be the starting SF?

While Kobe has the skills to be a Chris Paul type of pg,
why do you want to move him from his best/natural
position os sg?

I asked this same question of KB Blitz, and I ask it of you.
If Lamar uses rebounding to get his game going ... Why
would you move him farther away from the basket &
rebounds by putting him at the 3 instead of leaving him
at the 4?

Final question, why would you choose to unbalance the
"Bench Mob" by moving Lamar back into the starting
lineup?

There's an old saying: If it ain't broke don't fix it!

Lamar needs to ride pine, so that we have the 3-headed
monster of Gasol/Bynum/Odom at the C/PF positions.
Breaking this rotation & degrading our defense for the
sake of having the tallest front court in the NBA seems ...
less than wise doesn't it?

[ and no, Lamar is not as good as Ariza is on defense.
FYI, Trevor has a longer wingspan, is quicker & is
more defensively minded. Which was the reason
Mitch got him in the first place. ]

East Coast J,

I'm with you on that one. I'll be watching the parade from my lap top. Anyone know of a link? We can watch ESPN and MSNBC from channlesurfing and maybe ther will be one on justintv.

I'm looking forward to hearing Lamar at the podium.

And, BTW, I think this team may be the worst championship interview in the history of pro sports. That audio of Dan Pactric talking to Lamar on the bus makes Kobe sould like Vin Scully. We might have to sign Adonal Foyal just to have someone who can handle a mic.

Where are the puppets? I'd love to see one on the bus. Get 'er done Nike!

Wes

Plaschke on "Around the Horn:" Lakers will 3-peat.

I hate trolls.

Blitz,

>>> About that Jordan can play better PG than Shannon Brown, I can argue the same
>>> thing to Ron Harper, Brian Shaw, heck even Derek Fisher. Skill wise Jordan is better
>>> than all of them really.

You can argue it but you are wrong and missing the point. Obviously, all three of those players in their primes were better than Jordan is right now because we both know it takes more than the right skills to be a successful point guard. Clutch shooting and decision making also are big factors and the main reasons that all three names you mentioned are better than Jordan right now. Whether he will grow and develop and become as good as those guys is still obviously up in the air.

But you are making a logical error in your argument because Shannon Brown has not shown enough in his career or his brief time with the Lakers to even be in the conversation. No way can you compare him to Harper, Shaw, or Fisher – all players, by the way, who have proved their value. That is his problem – he has not shown enough in his time.

>>> The problem is with Jordan is that he's not physical enough for big guards, even
>>> with some quick guards when he isn't the one scoring he gets beaten in transition
>>> (how the heck did a unathletic guy like JJ Reddick beat him down the court is
>>> beyond anyone's guess) and is prone to individual play way too much.

Hey, I would love to have Deron Williams as our starting point guard but we have won four championships with Derek Fisher who routinely gets beaten off the dribble by smaller quicker point guards. Every player has his match up nightmare. Jordan’s is DWill for sure. However, just like Fish did enough other things well enough to overcome his weaknesses, so can Jordan. In fact, I thought that Jordan played very well in the Finals in Game 5. His passing into the post to Kobe was superb and his running of the offense excellent. I also thought he did a good job of never quitting on screens, which was a problem in the past.

>>> The biggest reason I say that Jordan got playing time over SB in the Finals was
>>> his experience in last year's finals were more credit than SB's limited one in 2007
>>> with Cleveland was. If SB should be re-signed then they pretty much look to be
>>> equal footing.

You are letting your anti-Jordan bias distort your judgment. With the right team, which I believe is the Lakers, Jordan can be a starting point guard because he has the skills and IQ to play the position and has shown he is a Kobe-esque worker who works his ass off. As much as I love Shannon, he is a combo guard who will never be more than a spot defender in the Lakers system because he cannot handle the ball or pass it well enough to start.

JMO, Blitz, but I think you will see Farmar come back stronger next year and take back that first guard spot on the bench. Shannon will see spot duty against certain matchups. And as we know, I still contend that the best solution for the Lakers backcourt is Kobe at 1 and Trevor and his great spot-up shooting at the 2. If you want defense in the backcourt, that is how you get it in spades – not by sacrificing ball handling and passing for it by trying to make a point guard out of a bench player who does not have the requisite skills.

Tom

AP: Private donors agree to cover nearly $1 million in taxpayer costs for a parade honoring the NBA champion Lakers. Donor list to be announced this afternoon.

Tom, Ex and others...

My own paltry two cents on the summer. I don't think Kobe will take a cut... I figure he'll go for max and Buss will gladly pay it. Kobe's the franchise after all and I'm not sure that a more significant player will come into the game in my lifetime. I'm betting that both Odom and Ariza will be back but it won't be easy... Mitch will probably try to unload Morrison's contract in order to make the signings possible. I think Sasha's on the balance beam - if there's a way to lose his contract in order to benefit the budget this year or next, they'll probably do it. I think they'll really try to use all three draft picks, it's the most cost effective way to fill the bench. Powell and Brown will be back. Mbenga and Yue's future with the team will totally depend on how we do in the draft.

The lakers would be well served to trade one or more of their first round picks packaged with one or more of the contracts of Morrison, Vujacic, and Walton to a rebuilding team and take nothing back.. like the nuggets did last year with Camby

Butler agreed to the deal; we had a Butler bandwagon and he's backing out of it. Timing is everything Bulter, an apology in November when the Lakers are getting ready to play Phoenix does not count.

I'm with Laker Tom here, I pretty much will read all of Kevin Ding's stuff and the K-Bros stuff... the rest I don't bother. I'll probably read some Breshnan, Heisler, and former lakerblogger Pincus - but that's really the extent of it.

It actually troubles me that Hollinger says we're the favorites. That guy is wrong so often it makes me squirm - why couldn't he just write up a piece that says "statistically, I can't understand how the Lakers won this thing"??

I see some strong parallels to the 90s Bulls team, especially the second 3 peat squad. Obviously we're not them, but Kobe's at the perfect age, we have some serious pieces, Ariza is turning in a Pippen-like player, Bynum/Gasol filling that middle spot - UPS the big guard answer we need.

I'm very eager to see how some of these guys progress during the off season.

Hey, AK/BK, can you make sure to ask the players what their plans on improving in the off season are??? That's always my biggie question and it hardly gets asked.

CAN LAKERS AFFORD LAMAR AND TREVOR?

Hollinger made a reference in his Insider Article that puddle was kind enough to post that the Lakers should have no problem re-signing Lamar and Trevor because they earned an extra $48M from the 12 home playoff games at Staples per JA Adande. I have searched everywhere and cannot find any quote from Adande about $4M per playoff game profits for Lakers. Did anybody else here see the original quote and if so, could you post a link?

There is no doubt, for example, that the reasons the Yankees can outspend all of their rivals is that they make more money than all the other teams. I would be very interested in any information out there that indicates how much additional profits a team garners from winning the NBA championship. If the Lakers really do earn an extra $4M per playoff game, we probably should have been rooting for the Finals to go 7 games because not playing Game 6 and 7 at Staples cost the Lakers $8M. And if they really brought in $48M in profits that the Clippers, for example, did not generate, then Hollinger is right and Buss will easily be able to afford to re-sign Lamar and Trevor as well as Shannon and maybe adding another player for the MLE or Vet’s minimum. Can you say Yankee-esque?

Tom

Butler????

Sends his regards from the AZ Republic.

He would say something here, but claims that the K's have banned him, and won't let the Butler guy come on the Blog,

Is this true? or just another delusional thought?

He also says the Suns still rule the NBA.

Totally agree on Hobbitmage's post with regards to Kobe as a PG. He is 31 years old next season, why would you punish the duck that lay the golden eggs to do the yeomans job of bringing the ball from back court to the front court, do the the shooting, do the rebounding and assign the tough defensive assignments too. This is total ballhog argument in putting all eggs under one player.

PJ used Kobe as a PG as the need arises in the playoffs, in fact only in the 4th Q. As it has been reported, he has played more than hundred games than MJ, he is just human, eventually those muscles, bones will deteriorate like any human being abused and over used. Therefore, why don't we preserve our golden duck and surround him more with players who can shoot Gasol type, Ariza type, Lamar type and the slumping Fisher. Try to manage Kobe and Fisher playing minutes to the minimum while spreading the points to other members of the team.

If you are managing a hospital, do you want your best oncologist or neurosurgeon do the work of the HMO doctors?

Shannon is an 80% foul shooter and nearly 50% from 3 point range.....so what are we comparing. He gives us a entire new dimension and more team speed. The system adjustments will develope over the summer.

Keep whoever you want but he needs to hang around.

Steeler and Penguin parades drew 350.K plus, we certainly will be close to 500.K.

Well, there will be live coverage of the parade on cbs 2:
http://tinyurl.com/mp2ruw
Includes other useful information for the lucky ones that are going to celebrate live.

GO CHAMPIONS!!!

Hello gang.

What a ride, I'm happy that this Blog exists where all of us like-minded (if not quite always in agreement) Laker fans can come and look at Trolls pent up in a cage of helpless frustration.

Pity the Troll who has no team to call his own, no championship banner for his team to hang from the rafters, no hope.

AK/BK thanks for moderating a great Blog all sesaon. Evn in the face of epic outrage balanced by equally epic hope, you guys kept our discourse civil, polite and you put tinyURL on the map.

Charles, Jon K, Laker Tom, Puddles, Faith, Psyched Laker Girl, Edwin Gueco, Rick Freidman, Utzworld, hobbitmage, Floyd, exhelodrvr, justanothermambafan and of course Mamba 24 thanks for contributing to a season of fun, anguish and ultimately, vicarious triumph. Without you, this place would be like an empty museum, quite, stale and full of scary monsters that go bump in the night.

Laker Team of th 08-09 season, thanks for overcoming the obstacles, injuries, pressure and hype. You played as yourselves and won as yourselves and I think that's what I like most about this team. Most of them wear their hearts on their sleeves.

Just like us.

No negatives, today, plenty to harp on later, but now only joy and effusive praise for the best goddamn franchise that has ever graced the planet Earth. The Los Angles (formerly of Minneapolis) Lakers.

The best in the world...until October. ;-)

GO LAKERS!!!!

Is anyone going to the parade? If you are email me at faithdalakerfan@yahoo.com Maybe we can coordinate a Lakersblog meet lol.

That was fun. I want to do it again. But this time, no 4-5 years.

Let's make it.....uhm....how about 12 months?!

Yeah baby!

Fatty - Who says no drugs could EVER make him feel this good! He's on a natural Lakers High!

And wishes everyone here only the best. Those who have traveled the long journey together, who have gone through the good and the bad, the highs and the lows.

You are trully a 'Band of Lakers Bloggers'

And also encourages all to please celebrate responsibly tomorrow.

How did I celebrate? I (Laker fan, 25 years) shared a hug with my father (Laker fan, 45 years), shared congratulatory emails, and did some Facebooking.

But mostly, it caused me to reflect. This title left me serene. For many reasons.

1. It continues the Laker tradition of consistent, sustained excellence. In the quarter-century I've lived and died with the Lakers, they've been in the Finals about half that time and won more than half of those contests. Few if any sports teams pay dividends on emotional investments like the LA Lakers.

2. It represents a payoff for fans, players, coaches and management after arguably the most frustrating AND dysfunctional period in Laker history.

3. It brings the career and legacy of Kobe Bryant into much clearer focus. Until a couple of years ago (ironically, triggered by Shaquille O"Neal's comments), you wouldn't have found a more passionate die-hard Kobe critic. I put too much blame on him for the end result of the 2004 dissolution. And I very publicly acknowledged that 24 months ago. Now, Laker fans have had to endure Kobe's growing pains, waiting for his overall mindset to catch up with his immense talent. He remains the most enigmatic athlete of the era. But he has matured and realized his promise. Was a lot of what preceded it unnecessary? Of course. Do I adore Kobe like many fans? Nope, but I respect him and his value to the team, and I appreciate him leading the Lakers to the title. I am fully convinced he can play another decade at a high level and win several more titles, if he sets his mind to it. The sky was the limit for the boy, and nearly a decade and a half later, the sky is still the limit for the man.

4. It makes me appreciate the effort and patience Lakers' management and staff have had in the last couple of years. Sure, both have benefitted from some luck. A fortuitous Gasol trade, and the addition of key pieces at great value (Brown, Ariza) helped. But they were patient with key players they had, such as Bynum and Odom. And they (mostly) maximized the talents of the players they had. Mea culpa, Mr. Kupchak. Well done. Great job, Coach Jackson.

5. It makes me wonder how much better the team will be in 2010 with Bynum at 100% and more production from Farmar and Vujacic. If this team stays together and healthy, there's no reason they can't repeat. Heck, you never know, even Adam Morrsion and Sun Yue could give'em something!

I don't remember ever being so content after a Lakers' championship. Unlike some of the others, I'll appreciate this one for its own sake, looking at the past as prelude to the payoff and the future for another day.

I'll be back here and there as free agency develops, but my thoughts will turn to the gridiron soon. Let me say this to all of the great, passionate fans on this site: it's great to hear your passion and dedication. utzwortd, mamba24, wesjoenixon, Rick Friedman, LakerTom, Faith, Fatty, and so many others . . . enjoy this and keep it going!

from the Laker Nation diaspora . . .

Peace

VERY OBVIOUS and HOW CONVIEEEEEENIENT:

Hate is a strong word to use in this holy church of Laker fans!! We are all God fearing laker fans and it is very shocking to hear such a stRong HATE word, reminds me of Skin Heads

That you have been not attending Sunday Church, shame shame shame !!

I hate trolls.

Posted by: Faith | June 16, 2009 at 02:26 PM

"How did/will you celebrate? We want to see. "

Perverts!!

shameful championship team
Shame on Bryant for ball-Hogging
Shame on Jackson for the Sell-out style of a One Man(girl in this case) show.
Shame on the Lakers for not creating a balanced and well rounded team.
The NBA and their fans CRY
the FAKER Fans celebrate another Jack Nicholson type Put on, Disney Fabricated Comic book/ Video game ACT.
The Lack of Quality is disgraceful.

Learn how to create a TEAM

Not a circus act for the children to buy jerseys of their favorite ball hog

Who's going to the parade and celebration, and what time do you think we all need to be there? Reach out at:
www.facebook.com/rick.friedman
Thanks.

Personally, after all these years, I think it is time for the Kamenetsky Brothers should do a good old fashioned culling of the trolls.

Even after a Championship, we still get trolls.

I don't think it's worth it to have another four years of trolls ruining the healthy dialog here.

Those who generally insult the blog, generally insult bloggers (particularly those that express positive opinions) on the blog, and who generally insult people for their opinions (not HOW they formed their opinion) should have their posts banned.

I'm okay with people not liking the Lakers.

I'm okay with people having often passionate differences of opinions.

I'm okay with people not agreeing with me or anyone else.

I'm not okay with people spewing out hate, insults and nonsense without provocation.

It doesn't add a single element of quality to this blog and it should not be allowed to continue.

Enough already.

WE ARE THE LOS ANGELES LAKERS AND WE RISE!!!!

What do we play for? RINGS!!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!!!

HEAR IT THRU GRAPE VINE:

Kobe to Clippers for 1st round pic Blake

DYNASTY OF YOUNG STARS FOR THE NEXT DECADE;

BYNUM (C)
BLAKE (PF)
PAU 9S(SM)
ODUM (POINT)
ARIZA (SG)

MARVIN GAYE

THIS BLOG CAN'T "HANDLE" THE TRUTH!!!

The LAKERS are Disgraceful FAKERS

Itold ya,....
THIS BLOG CAN'T "HANDLE" THE TRUTH!!!

"Nobody. The bandwagon left two days ago and we gave your seat away to KL, who at least had the balls to apologize to Kobe and eat some well-deserved crow."

for the record, i never apologized to Kobe, but i'm willing to admit that kobe proved me wrong by balancing his self-serving tendencies for the betterment of the team and was enough of a leader for the team to follow his lead. i truly didn't think he would be able to lead a team after "trade me, don't trade me" rants.

BTW, I live to eat crow. yum yum.

To fellow Kobe critics, please read Bill Simmon's article.
http://tiny.cc/Kobe_Hater

 
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