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Andrew Bynum on Dwight Howard Given the significance of what's in front of them in these NBA Finals, it's reasonable for each member of the roster to do whatever is necessary (and legal), with fans giving them a free pass.  Even if that means imitating a Boston Celtic, as Andrew Bynum plans to do in defending Orlando's Dwight Howard.  The Kendrick Perkins Model worked, relatively speaking at least, for the Bostonians in Round 2, a plan that included physical play and a concerted effort to beat Howard down the floor so the big fella isn't the beneficiary of Doris Day parking under the Lakers' bucket. 

This consitutes a challenge for Bynum, in part because his knee isn't right and won't be until a full summer of rest and rehab arrive and that hasn't exactly been the picture of consistency throughout the postseason. Also, Howard is incredibly athletic and probably gets up and down the floor better than any other true center in the league. 

Oh yeah, that.  In the end, though, a strong performance against Howard gives Bynum a chance to rewrite his playoffs script. 

Another guy expected to give more?  Lamar Odom, in no small part because folks are always wanting more from LO.  I did a radio spot last night, and the host suggested the Lakers needed Odom to deliver 15/15 for the Lakers to win.  Allow me to pass along the full list of 15/15 players across the NBA this year.  Oh right, there were none.  From a rebounding standpoint, Howard's 13.8 a night led the Association, so 15 a game might be a reach. (Why not ask him to return GM to solvency, while just to round out his agenda?)  It does, however, illustrate how the Good Production From Lamar Bar is a fluid thing, generally always moving up from whatever he gives. 

But while the necessary numbers are debatable the Lakers will need his versatility on both ends, particularly as he matches up against Rashard Lewis.  Personally, I'm more concerned about how Odom fits in defensively, because his length and mobility provides a great foil to both Lewis and Hedo Turkoglu.  They'll need Odom to both rebound and close on the perimeter, which as you can imagine isn't the easiest mission in the world. 

While it's important for Odom to be part of the offense, it's not a question of specific statistical benchmarks. LO is one of those dudes who often does well by the eyeball test, since he can impact a game in more ways than box score categories.  He has to make a noticeable imprint on the game, but often that's less about his points or rebounds than his +/-.  When Odom is playing well, you can tell, even if the numbers aren't huge... though I certainly won't complain if they are.

In other news, apparently Kobe vs. Dwight doesn't do the same business as Kobe vs. LeBron, at least so far as ticket prices go. At least the LBJ puppet will still be busy

More reading for the day:

Trevor Ariza doesn't get teary-eyed when reminiscing about his days in Orlando, but don't call this a grudge match.

Howard Beck of the NYT looks at Kobe Bryant's six NBA Finals and notes the absence of a genuine, consistent rival.  It's worth asking if the sort of Magic vs. Bird thing has gone the way of the dodo.  Kobe vs. LeBron was the hope, at least for this season, but we all know how that went. 

Great roundtable discussion on the Finals matchup at Third Quarter Collapse, including guys like Bethlehem Shoals of Free Darko fame, and Kevin Pelton of Basketball Prospectus.  For more Magic blog reading, the Orlando Magic Daily would like to dispel some myths. 

Pelton's Finals preview is a great read over at BP
, breaking down both sides of the ball.  Still, I'll skip to the good part:

"...In hindsight, Orlando's upset win in the Eastern Conference Finals looks more predictable because of the importance of matchups in the postseason. The Magic had won the season series 2-1 and convincingly so. Orlando's upset means every playoff series so far has been won by the team that won or tied the regular-season series, a trend the Magic certainly hopes continue, having swept the Lakers. This time, however, the evidence isn't as strong in Orlando's favor. The two wins were both close, coming by a combined nine points, and the Magic relied heavily on the production of Nelson. The odds of him matching that even if he does play--or any of the other Orlando point guards replicating it--are long indeed.

This time around, the matchups are not so strongly tilted in the Magic's favor. When the Lakers go small, they match up very well indeed--with the notable exception of the middle. While it's possible to envision a scenario in which Howard is too much for either Bynum or Gasol to handle, the shooters make their shots and the Orlando defense is solid enough to hold the Lakers at bay, the more likely scenario is that Howard will come back to earth slightly after his back conference finals and the Lakers' offense will prove more potent than the Cavs' attack did.

The Lakers were my pick in October before the season started, they were my pick in April at the beginning of the playoffs, and despite testing my faith at times the last month and a half, they remain my pick to win the championship now.

L.A. Lakers in 6."

BDL's Kelly Dwyer says Lakers in six.

An interesting little profile of Eddie Doucette, the broadcaster who coined the term "sky hook."

BK

 
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It's easy to see parallels to last season already.

Almost no one gave BOS a chance last year, largely because everyone assumed that koby would not be stopped on the Big Stage.

Yet, BOS owned the NBA's best defense, and also owned a 2-0 record vs. LA in the reg. season. Common sense seemed to suggest BOS would have the advantage.

That the media was writing them off only fueled BOS' collective sense of destiny, and helped to inspire them to topple the weaker LA team. I think the same thing is happening now. No one is giving ORL a chance despite their record and league-leading D (in the postseason). This kind of doubt makes a team like ORL stronger.

Perhaps it even accelerates Jameer's healing.

Followup from previous thread...

Whatever Lamar eats, tell him not to eat what Frank Selvy ate.

GODD@&&&&&&&!!@!! NOW YOU HAVE GONE TO FAR A FREAKING TROLL AT THE BEGINNING OF THE COMMENTS. OH THE HORROR, OH THE HEARTBREAK. I'M TAKING MY LEBROAD PUPPET AND LEAVING. COME ALONG PUPPET IT'S TIME TO GO!

HOW about a nice tasty BarbQued Troll Lamar!!

I CAN'T WAIT FOR IT TO START.

I'm so eager to see Redick and Morrison out there competing for WHAT?

What's that?

Redick and Morrison won't be starting?

Well that takes the bloom off the rose a bit, don't it?

Go Lakers

BUTT-ler,

Why do you relish making negative comments? Not only are your comments childish from the motivation perspective, it also tells me that your life must be pretty negative / miserable...
May be you didn't get any hugs from your mother... why don't you call your boy, Raja, and may be he can refer you to his therapist...

Be that as it may, there are other similarities that you didn't point out... For instance:
1. HCA - LAL has it
2. Hunger and Motivation / Drive - this LAL team has it
3. Boston's struggles last year through the first three rounds, just like the Lakers...

If you recall, last year's Lakers had a big celebration at the midcourt after winning the conference final on its home court... this year, no such thing... on the road, a very subdued celebration, if you want to call it that...

Don't try to rub it in... Go try to figure out how you are going to get out from under Shack's large contract and replace Steve Nash's ailing back...
I foresee many years of mediocrity for the Suns...
and many years of excellence for the Lakers...

The universe is back the way it is supposed to be...
Oh, don't forget to call Raja and your mother for the hugs you didn't get as a child.

RK

Yeah, BUTLER. And that regular season record-playoff record correlation works for your posts, too. They are wrong 90% of the time. Which makes the Lakers chances look pretty good!!

{Lakers mystic Jon K. is having a vision... I see something... It's coming into focus... THERE!}

Game Six. Los Angeles. After playing a phenomenal series, Andrew Bynum fouls out in the first quarter. In a surprise move, Phil Jackson puts DJ Mbenga on Dwight Howard who plays lock-down defense on Howard, piling up a total of five blocks on "Superman" and defensively leading his team not only to victory, but to the Championship, cementing a special place in Lakers lore as "The Congolian Banger who started the Fourth Dynasty."

It could happen.

WE ARE THE LOS ANGELES LAKERS AND WE RISE!!!!

What do we play for? RINGS!!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!!!

Whatever Lamar eats, tell him not to eat what Frank Selvy ate. Posted by: LongTimeLakerFan | June 03, 2009 at 10:07 AM

D@mnit LongTime just what the hell did Frank Selvy eat?
I might be eating some right now!! LoL!


Just read Bill Dwyre's column in the LA Times. Writes a whiny article about whiny players & refs. The dude obviously needs some time off.

Hurry up Game 1.

Go Lakers!!!

A CHALLENGE TO BUTLER

If (and WHEN) we win this year's NBA Championship, you will issue a public apology. No spin. No talk about refs. No caca-del-toro about how our winning is actually a Suns victory. Be man enough to admit that in 2008-09 the Los Angeles Lakers WERE - AND ARE - THE BEST TEAM IN THE NBA.

If you apologize, I (and I suspect many other of the Blog Patriarchs) will commit to a summer free from using phrases involving the words FUNS, GNASH, No Rings, etc.

DEAL? OR NO DEAL?

Posted by: BUTLER | June 03, 2009 at 10:04 AM

Its because Jameer has lots and lots of heart. How do you think he got to the Finals?

I'm more willing to believe in a tough, physical point guards like Shannon Brown, Derek Fisher, Deron Williams, and Jameer Nelson, than I am in a dribble first, make everyone else set screens for me, point guard like Steven John.

Jameer and Shannon will expose the 2 x MVP Nash, just like Chris Paul and Deron Williams consistently do. He will show the league that Steve Nash no longer belongs, nee, never belonged in the great pantheon of todays point guards like Rafer Alston, Aaron Brooks, and Jordan Farmar.

But PHX fans won't listen. By golly, they're going to stay on the deck of the Titanic, they're so loyal!!

Good Luck Jameer, I wish you a speedy speedy recovery. I'd like to see what you and Shannon Brown do to demolish the Valley Mirage, Steven John Nash. Two great teams that belong in the Finals because they play with pride, listen to their coach, and aren't led by a selfish, ballhog like Steve Nash.

Glad you made it down this far Butler. ROFL

sez Chiken little

BUTLER: Addendum to the deal: After we win, there is an assignment I have to do which directly does involve you and your team. I'll take care of that first and then my Summer of Non-Suns Harrassment will begin.

Mamba 24: Can you launch a BUTLER DEAL OR NO DEAL Bandwagon with me as the driver. See my previous post for the particulars.

KB Blitz,

Your DFish support is admirable but not supportable by the facts ..which are...DFish is the weak link and should be a Lakers bench cheerleader.

Yellofever and Todd since you both are so dismissive now of Derek:

1) You both state that Derek can't shoot anymore. Yes Derek's production has gone down as he shot a horrid 30% from 3pt land in the Denver series. But since you both obviously point that out why not look at Jordan's and Shannon's 3pt shot as well?

Denver series:

3 pt FG%
Derek: 30%
Jordan: 23%
Shannon:25%

Overall FG%
Derek Fisher: 36%
Jordan Farmar: 33%
Shannon Brown: 34%

Why are you quoting narrow in the stats advocating DFish?

Seems like per 48 minutes stats in 2009 playoffs is the most effective measure:


Game Statistics Rebounds Miscellaneous
NAME GP GS MIN PTS OFF DEF TOT AST STL BLK TO A/TO PF TECH

Shannon Brown 18 0 14.4 19.0 1.3 3.1 4.4 2.4 1.85 0.37 1.8 1.30 4.8 0.2

Jordan Farmar 15 1 13.5 18.2 0.7 4.5 5.2 7.3 1.66 0.71 3.5 2.07 2.8 0.2

Derek Fisher 17 17 26.8 12.7 0.4 2.7 3.2 4.2 1.58 0.11 2.2 1.90 4.7 0.1

Note DFish trails Farmar and Brown is every major statistics.

2) You both state also about how Fish's defense now suck. Yes Derek's defense is not what it used to be. BUT saying that Jordan is a better defender than Fisher overall is laughable. Jordan has been constantly beaten on defense by almost every point guard who isn't a speedster of Parker or Brooks. Both Derek and Jordan has been beaten defensively consistently in the season. Shannon is a great defender against big type point guards of Billups and Deron but still is not 100% against speedsters. Only reason Jordan got more PT in Houston was that 1) He faced Brooks in College and 2) He had a better match up than either Derek or Shannon. That don't mean he is capable of completely defending Aaron brooks entirely! It took a TEAM effort to stop Brooks not just the personal defense of either point.

Is Aaron Brooks more effective than DFISH -- yes.
Is Aaron Brooks more effective than Jordan Farmar - No

Its not clear Lakers win if DFish hadn't been suspended for Houston Game 3.

Both of you need to quit hating on Fish when he had the better FG% numbers than either of them in the last series. Derek still has one last gallon in the tank for this series.

Best thing you have said is we better HOPE DFish has a gallon left.

Hey Butler,
we get it man, you dont like the Lakers....that's fine but personally I dont think the media is playing the Lakers up quite the same way as they did last year. It was too much last year, over the top really.. this year seems more evenly reported, especially since the Lakers struggled a lot through the playoffs this time..

I dont know what rock you are trying to climb out from under but I see a fair amount of talking heads on the TV and have read plenty of articles giving Orlando a good shot in this series.

Why do you even comment about the Lakers so much like you do? Yeah yeah I know you're a troll blah blah blah.. do you think you are going to convince someone to give up on their favorite team??? Or are you just trying to be a pest to Laker fans because your team sucks and couldnt even make the playoffs but according to you are the greatest thing since the invention of the wheel?

Do you think the Lakers should just forfeit or allow the SUNS to take their place in the finals or something? You're pretty funny man, why dont you do something constructive with your time like make a Steve GNASH pinata or something, or maybe you could make some GNASH and SHACK puppets and do your own commercials, be sure and post em on youtube if you do!

Perhaps it even accelerates Jameer's healing. Posted by: BUTLER | June 03, 2009 at 10:04 AM

F%%%%%%% Jameer! F*&^%$%$ Mickey Mouse Orlando. Although I respect the Magic becasue they are made up of some fine gentleman(Boston and Cleveland could take a page from their book) The Lakers will destroy them. And then Butler old friend it will be time to put up or shut up. Either admit you have always been a Laker fan but was only playinf Devils-Advocat, or go join the Lebroad Puppet and never ever return to this Blog again or we will be forced to make you a mascot. You know what they do to Mascots don't you?

Time to dedicate a classic video to Lamar Odom. "The Candy Man can."

http://tinyurl.com/pq5cmz

Do it with style, Lamar. The Candy Man can. Go Lakers!

AND THEY KEEP ON RUNNNING AND GUNNING AND RUNNING AND GUNNING AND RUNNING AND GUNNING
LET'S GET IT STARTED IN HERE LET'S GET IT STARTED
IN HERE.!!!!!!!!!

THEY CAN TAKE OUR LIVES....BUT THEY CAN NEVER
TAKE OUR LEBROAD PUPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPET!!!!!!!

DOC. THAT WAS HIS FREAKIN FOOT.

Posted by: Mamba24 | June 03, 2009 at 09:33 AM

That was outstanding Larry, LOL.

I know it's impossible, but if you're still not getting enough NBA Finals material, one social networking expert has some tips.

http://tinyurl.com/pkysq8

Is it Thursday yet?

Just a shoutout to the blog Poet Laureate. Mamba24 in the house, yo! It's fun trading verses, amigo.

Also, I like roll calls on off days during the finals. The blog is in force and the team is ready to expose the Magic.

Go Lakers!

WHAT I WOULD LOVE TO SEE FROM OUR INCONSISTENT X FACTORS:

- FISH - to get out of his slump. Fish played too many minutes this season because of Farmar's injury and the Lakers year long goal of getting the best record. Hopefully the long layoff will give Fish his legs (and decision making abilities) back. IF not, than Brown and Farmar deserve more minutes.

- LAMAR - to be consistent. Don't laugh. He's been inconsistent his entire career, especially in pressure situations, but all of that seemed to change this regular season, with his clutch performances against Boston and Cavs on the road. I've been saying this every year, but I thought in these playoffs, the consistent Lamar would finally show up, until his back injury against Houston. Hopefully, his back is now 100%, and we will finally see Lamar's long awaited fulfillment of his potential in the finals.

- SASHA - to get his confidence back. The Machine has had confidence issues his entire career, with the exception of last year, which happened to be his contract year. Good shooters get out of their slumps with easy baskets by going to the hole or getting to the line. Unfortunately, Sasha does neither. Last year, Sasha had a great playoff run, but collapsed in the finals. Hopefully, the opposite will happen this year. When Sasha was busting shots last year, the team looked unbeatable.

UGH can we please just start the Finals already?

I can't bear to read another article or blog post about the "Finals Breakdown" and what each team needs to do to win. Just play is what I say.

People get so caught up in the hype of which player will have to do what....yada yada yada.

I hate that everyone is picking the Lakers ti win...I feel it's a jinx just like last year.

I'm shutting my computer off until tomorrow night. I can't take this anymore.

It's easy to see parallels to last season already.

Almost no one gave BOS a chance last year, largely because everyone assumed that koby would not be stopped on the Big Stage.

Yet, BOS owned the NBA's best defense, and also owned a 2-0 record vs. LA in the reg. season. Common sense seemed to suggest BOS would have the advantage.

That the media was writing them off only fueled BOS' collective sense of destiny, and helped to inspire them to topple the weaker LA team. I think the same thing is happening now. No one is giving ORL a chance despite their record and league-leading D (in the postseason). This kind of doubt makes a team like ORL stronger.

Perhaps it even accelerates Jameer's healing.


Posted by: BUTLER | June 03, 2009 at 10:04 AM

I can't believe you didn't bring the Suns into your comment. Kudos!

So people keep talking about how dangerous Orlando's 3-point
shooting is in the playoffs. Why does nobody mention the Lakers'
3-point shooting?

Orlando's best 3-point shooters *:
(* ignoring Lue's 1 make in 1 attempt for the whole playoffs)

Mickael Pietrus - 39%
Rashard Lewis - 39%
JJ Redick - 39%
Hedo Turkoglu - 37%
Rafer Alston - 35%

Lakers' best 3-point shooters:

Lamar Odom - 52%
Trevor Ariza - 50%
Shannon Brown - 48%
Jordan Farmar - 36%
Kobe - 35%

and Machine and Walton are both hitting 33%, which is
the equivalent of hitting 50% of your 2 pointers.

If Fisher were to actually heat up, the Lakers would have
EIGHT PLAYERS who are capable of hitting the 3 with
reasonable consistency.

The Lakers as a team hit a higher percentage of their 3's (38%)
than the Magic (37%). The Magic just jack up a higher number
of 3's (23 to the Lakers' 19).

And also note that Orlando's 3-point stats are skewed by
the fact that they shot a LOT higher percentage against
Cleveland, who was using 6'3" Delonte West and 6'1" Mo Williams
to defend the much taller Turkoglu and Lewis.

Overall, the 3-point shooting is a wash between these two
teams, and it might even be an advantage to the Lakers.

I don't know what to say really only hours to the biggest battle of our life and it All comes down to tonight. Either they return My Lebroad Puppet or I'm finished. We are in hell right now, Gentlemen believe me and we can stay here & get the shit kicked out of us
or we can find that damn Puppet and climb out of hell. One inch, at a time. I can't do it for you. I'm too old. I look around and I see these young Puppets & I think I mean I made every wrong choice a middle age man could make. I could have had a Lebroad Puppet but
I uh....I pissed away all my money on a lil Penny Puppet believe it or not. I chased off anyone who has ever loved me. My lil Penny puppet, My GrandMaMam puppet, And lately, I can't even stand the face I see in the mirror. You know when you get old in life things get taken from you. Some MF took my LeBroad Puppet. That's, that's part of life. But, you only learn that when you start losing stuff. You find out that life is just a game of inches. So is having a Puppet. Because in either life or playing wiith your Lebroad Puppet the margin for error is so small.
I mean one half step too late or to early & you don't quite make it. One half second too slow or too fast and some
bastard comes along and steal the most wonderful thing you have ever possesed. The clues we need are everywhere around us. They are in ever break of
the game every minute, every second. On this team, we fight for that Puppet. On this team, we tear ourselves, and everyone around us to pieces for that damn Puppet..
We CLAW with our finger nails for that puppet . Cause we know when we add up all everything we ever owned in life none of it's going to make a freakin difference. Not WINNING and or LOSING. Not LIVING or DYING. I'll tell you this in any fight it is the guy who is willing to DIE for his Lebroad Puppet who is going to have a life worth living . And I know if I am going to have any life anymore it is because, I am still willing to FIGHT & DIE for that Damn PUPPPPPPPET. Because that is what LIVING is having a Lebroad Pupppet you can call your own. Kobe, Fish, Arriza, Beast, LO I can't make you do it.
You gotta look at the guy next to you. Look into his eyes.
Now I think you are going to see a guy who will go that inch with you. You are going to see a guy who will sacrifice himself & his very liife for that God@mn Puppet. Because he knows when it comes down to it, he wants a LeBroad Puppet too!! That's a team, gentlemen and either we find that freaking Puppet now, as a team, or we will die as individuals. That's the LeBroad Puppet guys. That's all it is a sweet wonderful LeBroad Puppet. . That sign on the door says THE FREAKIN LA LAKERS You gotta ask your self, WHO THE HELL ARE YOU TO STEAL MY PUPPET. ARE YOU WITH ME.... I CAN'T HEAR YOU!!!....All right men I just want to say...
THEY MAY TAKE OUR RINGS AND OUR LIVES ...
BUT THEY WILL NEVER TAKE OUR PUPPPPPPPPPETS!!

KOBE'S LAST CHANCE...

Adande is right...
http://tiny.cc/MZyuh

Kobe has made good strides to be a good teammate, but this is his best (perhaps last) shot "to win without Shaq".

Adande basically said what I've been saying for the past 3 years about Kobe in 2004. Kobe was being selfish in 2004 trying to be the #1 guy on Shaq's team costing the Lakers a championship and running Shaq out of town thereafter.

Kobe owes LA at least two championship for 2004 and 2006 when Miami won it with Shaq.

Kobe is wrong...
http://tiny.cc/b0rbd

Kobe said "Shaq could not have won without me" (paraphrase) and Kobe is 100% wrong. Shaq, in his prime, could have won with anybody (as demonstrated in Miami).

Kobe better win a title, without Shaq, otherwise, he'll be forever known as "the best second bananna" ever.

ROLL CALL:
LIL PENNY PUPPET, LEBROAD PUPPET.........

WHY COULDN'T YOU START THE THREAD OFF WITH
A POST BY THE LEBROAD PUPPET? BUT NOOOOO
INSTEAD YOU LET A TROLL HAVE THAT HONOR.
OHHHHHHH THE HUMANITY!!!! IF I HAVE BUT ONE LIFE
TO GIVE LET ME GIVE IT FOR MY PUPPET!!!

I'd prefer to have the Lakers underdogs since they tend to do better but even the Prez is picking them in 6. Reasons why it was objectively absurd to pick the Lakers last year that don't apply this year:

1) 0-2 against Cs last year, both games weren't even close. This year they were & could have gone either way.

2) Cs were at full strength last year (wheelchair *ahem*). Magic's killer against Lakers this year won't be at full strength even if Nelson plays.

3) Lakers not at full strength last year. Bynum not recovered fully but at least he's available & Ariza is a difference maker this time around.

4) Lakers have HCA & Orlando is not nearly a hostile place to play as Boston.

5) This Lakers team already knows what it feels like to be in the Finals & not finish it out. I know Magic say they're not simply happy to be here (who does?), but they're also not a bunch of vets who view this opportunity as maybe their only chance to get a Ring.

In retrospect, people were picking the Lakers last year because of the Cs surprisingly dfficult route to the Finals & the Lakers equally surprisingly easy one.

I'm not saying the Lakers are a lock. Maybe I'm cautious since the 2004 Finals were more of a real upset, but I rate the two teams as roughly even until we find out otherwise.

BK, you missed this one:

http://tinyurl.com/6adctx

where are all the bloggers at? i can't believe only two people posted, and one of them was butler.

quoting the words of Jon K., "What do we play for? Rings!" wooohooooooo!!!!!

i predict Lamar is gonna come out on fire tomorrow, after all this talk about his candy addiction, and the extra rest for his achy back.

i do have to give the Magic a lot of credit. they've been one of the best teams all season long, and it took a lot of spirit to oust the LeBrons, i mean, the Cavs. but it's a no brainer that LA matches up better with the Magic than the Cavs did.

i wonder though, with Andrew and Pau starting, who is Dwight gonna cover? maybe they'll go to a zone, and just have Dwight cover who ever's closer to the basket? all i know is if Dwight covers Drew, Pau is gonna have his way all day, baby! if it's the other way around, Pau and Lamar are just gonna give it up to Drew for dunks and hooks. and then there's the Black f-ing Mamba. it's funny how everyone is talking about how this series is gonna be won in the paint, but people tend to forget or not mention Kobe is out there. Mr. Clutch, version 2.0. none of those dudes can handle Kobe. i can see it now: Kobe will start torching who ever's on him, they'll be forced to double. wide-open shots. (just imagine: Kobe was able to light up Battier, Artest, had his way against Utah and Denver... Kobe will be unstoppable yet again)

and don't give me that "Magic swept the Lakers in the regular season" crap. we all know both games were tight, the Magic are minus Nelson, and you now add Farmar and Brown to the mix. and then there's the fact that Trevor is shooting 50% from the 3. totally different team Magic is facing now.

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BUTLER DEAL OR NO DEAL BANDWAGON
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A CHALLENGE TO BUTLER
If (and WHEN) we win this year's NBA Championship, you will issue a public apology. No spin. No talk about refs. No caca-del-toro about how our winning is actually a Suns victory. Be man enough to admit that in 2008-09 the Los Angeles Lakers WERE - AND ARE - THE BEST TEAM IN THE NBA. If you apologize, I (and I suspect many other of the Blog Patriarchs) will commit to a summer free from using phrases involving the words FUNS, GNASH, No Rings, etc.
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(01) utzworld THE BANNER HOLDER - OWNER/DRIVER
(02) MAMBA24 - TROLL enforcement guard.

Dwight Dwight he is our SUPERman if he cant do it, Jameer will,,, Magic in 6!!!!!!

Mamba24, i'm sorry for your loss of the LeBron Puppet. but how about a Kobe Puppet instead? the one with the removable sunglasses and 3 championship rings display case.

i'm glad that Nike has decided to air/film more MVPuppets ads. i can't get enough of them. please let me know if more arrive on youtube.

Butler is that kid Dez from the MVPuppets commercial. lol.

Tom

Easy my laker friends, easy now.

All I'm suggesting is that LA gets the overwhelming percentage of votes to win this series - just like last season.

And this type of prejudgment serves to heighten ORL resolve.

You should know that an avalanche of pro-LA sentiment in the days leading up to the Finals actually strengthens the opposition. The media is force-feeding ORL inspiration!


The Upsetter,

Thanks!

GO SUNS

exhelodrvr sez:

"Yeah, BUTLER. And that regular season record-playoff record correlation works for your posts, too. They are wrong 90% of the time. Which makes the Lakers chances look pretty good!!"

Touche!

But I'm not predicting an ORL victory, not at all.

All I'm saying is that you have to understand the minds of men. If you tell a team that it has no chance, that it will lose a FInals, don't you think that might actually encourage that team to strive even harder to win? It happens all the time..


UGH can we please just start the Finals already?

I can't bear to read another article or blog post about the "Finals Breakdown" and what each team needs to do to win. Just play is what I say.

People get so caught up in the hype of which player will have to do what....yada yada yada.

I hate that everyone is picking the Lakers ti win...I feel it's a jinx just like last year.

I'm shutting my computer off until tomorrow night. I can't take this anymore.

Posted by: EastCoastJessie | June 03, 2009 at 11:35 AM

Totally 100% AGREE!!

Go Lakers!!!

KL:

"Shaq, in his prime, could have won with anybody (as demonstrated in Miami)."

Really??? He won in Miami, because he played with a guy called Dwayne Wade there.... Or you mean "Wade is a nobody"???

Butler,

Are you going to take the deal or not?

Well? We're waiting.

WE ARE THE LOS ANGELES LAKERS AND WE RISE!!!!

What do we play for? RINGS!!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!!!

LAKER TRUTH,

>>>Last year, Sasha had a great playoff run, but collapsed
>>>in the finals.

How short your memory is. Sasha actually shot well in 4 of the 7
games of the finals. The Lakers probably would have LOST game 2
(and been out in 5 games) without Sasha's 20 point explosion.

And Sasha also hit 40% of his 3-pointers vs Denver, and shot
50% over the last 3 games. Machine will be ready for finals.
He'll be inconsistent, but he'll be a big factor in at least one
game and maybe several.

Mamba24, i'm sorry for your loss of the LeBron Puppet. but how about a Kobe Puppet instead? the one with the removable sunglasses and 3 championship rings display case. i'm glad that Nike has decided to air/film more MVPuppets ads. i can't get enough of them. please let me know if more arrive on youtube. Posted by: leonardbast | June 03, 2009 at 12:21 PM

No, No, NOOO! Leonard Bast great Laker poster & friend
do not trifle with my need for my Lebrod Puppet. Have you no feelings, have you no compassion. You dare DaRE!!! Offer me a puppet of Kobe Bryant, the greatest basketball player on the planet. I want my KING LEBROAD PUPPET. Can Kobe take a three step Samba and dunk and not get called for traveling? NO! Can Kobe
Bryant have his own "Witnesses" to walking off the Floor
and not shaking the hands of that Magic Rif Raf. No!
I want the real deal! wHO DO YOU THINK WROTE ALL
THOSE POEMS. That's right my LeBroad PUPPET!!! It's an
arrrogant SOB, but it was MINE!!!! ALL MINE!!!
PUPPET(Larry(Mamba24)

KL (fka KL_Beast)

What Kobe said wasn't a opinion but a fact! Shaq couldn't won those titles without him! Shaq didn't win a title until Kobe became a star! Shaq did play with Eddie and Nick who was all stars at that time well Kobe was coming off the bench and won no titles. When Kobe second year as a starter they both won 3 titles! Kareem won a title before Magic, and Hakeem won a title without Clyde! If Kobe win his fourth ring it will be without a Superstar! Shaq 4 rings was all with a superstar!

Kobe and Co, live your legacy, LA in 6 to hang our 15th banner.


Butler;

Even if the constant labeling of Orlando as an underdog by the media types, sports bettors, NBA analytical pundits, or what have you, does inspire the Magic to come out stronger there's absolutely nothing the Lakers can do about it but try and play even harder to match any increase in intensity of their play as a result, since they have no control whatsoever over what people may want to say, write, or predict about the upcoming series.

Larry,

Did you really lose a LeBron puppet? Or is yor mind just cracking like mine?

On ESPN they were talking about which player would have a greater legacy--which player was a better player--Kobe or Shaq?

Tough call. I'd say Shaq at this point, with Kobe gaining every day.

Wes

Butler,

Thanks for your post. The major difference that I see with the Celtics last year and the Magic this year is that the Celtics blew the Lakers out in both regular season games while it came down to the wire this year in both games between the Magic/Lakers with a healthy Jameer Nelson. While the Lakers were manhandled in both games against the Celtics last year, they could've won both games against the Magic this year. Also, the Celtics overall were a much more physical team than the Magic are with the exception of Dwight Howard. Thanks again for posting and sharing your thoughts.

KL Beast,

We've been over this many times in the past regarding Kobe and as far as I'm concerned, Kobe can do no right in your eyes no matter what he does. What settles the debate for me if Shaq could've won those three titles in LA without Kobe(please keep it in the context of what was asked and how Kobe replied)is that SHAQ HIMSELF SAID THAT WHAT KOBE SAID TO MAGIC WAS CORRECT. Please don't try to put your own spin on it or interpret it some other way because the question was in the context of Shaq/Kobe winning titles in Los Angeles not Shaq winning one alongside DWade with Shaq as the second banana. It's funny, because I knew that you would come on here at this time when Kobe and the Lakers are in the finals again and you're already making statements that reveal nothing new in how you view Kobe Bryant. I find it utterly ridiculous for you to say that Kobe owes LA for what happened in 2004 and 2006. Contrary to your statement, Shaq couldn't have won with anyone in his prime(he lost with Penny in Orlando, Kobe in LA and won while past his prime and as the second banana with DWade). Nuff said, Hulk Smash!!!!

KL Beast,

I also recall you making a statement a while back that LeBron James would win a ring before Kobe because LeBron was a team player. Should Kobe and the Lakers win this year, you my friend are wrong. I remember responding to your statement that Kobe would win a ring before LeBron and that as long as Kobe is playing LeBron will not win a ring and possibly may never get ring even when Kobe is gone. It can be argued that LeBron may never get past Dwight Howard in the East unless the Cavs get lucky enough not to face them in the playoffs in the future. It could also be argued that DWade and Melo may keep LeBron from a title as well. Should the Lakers win it all against the Magic, I can see the Lakers making another 3-peat because they still have young players and Mitch Kupchak will continue to add good pieces.

Nuff said, Hulk Smash!!!!


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