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Ryan Hollins, Kobe Bryant, and word choice

Nothing is set in stone, but there's certainly a strong chance the Lakers and Mavericks could meet in the Ryan_hollins_at_ucla first round of the Western Conference playoffs.  And with that in mind, former Bruins pivot and current Mavericks C Ryan Hollins was on Dallas radio Monday talking about ways the Mavs could compete against a heavily favored purple and gold squad:

"Kobe Bryant is one of the greatest players in the game, and I think sometimes he has issues trusting his teammates," said Hollins, who probably saw a lot of Lakers games while playing college ball at UCLA. "Maybe we catch them off guard, kind of get Kobe into playing a little one-on-one or doing a little too much, I think we've got a shot at them definitely."

It was reasonably mild with qualifiers like "sometimes," "maybe," and "kind of," and preceded with a compliment, but I think he just played the "Kobe is selfish" card, or at least a form of it.  That's not going to help Hollins locally, even among alums of UCLA and John Muir High in Pasadena.  While there's some truth to the message- Kobe does sometimes get wrapped up in on-one-one battles, and the Lakers aren't as good on those occasions where they lose balance- Hollins, who has averaged 8.7 minutes and 2.7 points a game over a 123 game NBA career, may not be the best messenger.

At least he's not on a bench with someone named Boobie. 

BK

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BK,

So do you put the Cleveland Cavalier players on the same level as Smush?

And Mr Hollins...thems fightin words!

Otis,

>>> KB Blitz knows what is, he is fair, he is always here - rag on anyone but the Blitz.
>>> If you can't stand long and boring, Laker Tom is always available for abuse.

>>> Yes, I've been drinking again.

LMAO, Otis. That was pretty funny, especially since I was drinking last night, too, which was why I was NOT “available for abuse” last night.

Tom

lakofan,

Thanks for the link to the Kobe story. What a heartbreaking story. Save lives but lose your legs. You have to love that Kobe cared enough to respond to Li. Makes me proud that he is my favorite player.

Tom

TRANSLATION:
"We want Kobe to play us one-on-one so that give us a chance to beat them" WON'T HAPPEN.

What he's pretty trying to do is get Kobe get aggravated and start jacking up shots making comments likes this...But that's not gonna happen...just like he's been doin all year...he'll pick his spots.

So it doesnt even matter what he says...because they'll get beat anyway...just the truth.

Jon,

>>> the blog is often a cruel, harsh, unfair place." –AK

>>> Don't I know it!
>>> A long plastic corridor where liars and cheats run free and good men die dogs!

LMAO. That was hilarious. A true glimpse as to what Jon K “really” thinks about the blog. Now we can really understand why you need to get out of Ohio.

Your quote reminded me of the Pretenders song “My City Was Gone:”

Tom

Some of the comments following the conversation are hilarious. I'm not sure if they are all Mavs fans, but they all seem to think that Hollins is an idiot

Saying things like "He must be talking about the Kobe of 2 years ago" and "Kobe will get 20 assists just to prove him wrong."

Gotta love the inevitable "Who's Ryan Hollins?" comments.

Game Night!


GO LAKERS!

Defense..Defense..Defense..

KOBE MVP

Ryan Hollins view probably represents the way most players in the NBA feel about the subject pretty well. I think most teams know the Lakers are very talented and should win most of their games, but if they still have a weakness, it is that Kobe has a hard time dealing with the fact that he alone cannot carry a team to a championship. Worst yet, if he gets challenged by another high profile player, he believes that his reputation is more important than team attainment.

I look forward to the day when Kobe gets challenged by another player and is at peace with himself enough to blow the guy off and just play team ball, even though he may lose the one-on one battle.

Ryan Hollins' quote brings up an interesting QOTD:

Are the Lakers easier to stop when Kobe is in mamba mode (you know where the shot is coming from, but can you stop it?) or when the team is just running the offense?

>>>Gotta love the inevitable "Who's Ryan Hollins?" comments.


Who is Ryan Hollins? Is he a basketball player?

I wonder if Hollins' teammates have issues trusting him. Since he sucks.

Laker Tom

Definitely, there are days it applies to the blog but was originally penned about the music business:

"a long plastic hallway where thieves and pimps run free, and good men die like dogs. There's also a negative side."

Hunter S. Thompson, who is undoubtedly not resting in peace.


i totally agree on that ryan hollins post i mean the only way to beat this team is through kobe if anybody would piss kobe off so that he could jack up shots they would have a chance of winning the series but seeing kobe play all season long when kobe's pissed off he picks his spots and that's why all season long we've been winning... but!!! if someone really piss kobe off that he would make that nut juggling impression thing 4 times that would be a long series... LOL


chicago [x]
oklahoma[ ]

let hell be raise (in the road) LAKERS!!!

Note to Ryan Hollins: Kobe's issues with "trusting his teammates" were on display when he was playing with a bunch of lumbering goofs, such as yourself. Now that he is surrounded by what they call "talent," your Mavs have no shot at going more than four games in this (supposed) series. If there was a Wonderlick score for popping off in the press, Ryan, here's guessing you would score about a 5.

J_Luv

I think kobe learned the hard way last year, that he can't do it alone. Hopefully this translates into a championship come June=)

btw I love how everyone tries to get into Kobe's head, haha, it seems like these people dream, eat and live Kobe.

Mamba24 - thank you for the rousing roll call - GAME DAY BABY!!

Ryan Hollins?? WTH?? Is that the guy that shares mascara with Paula Abdul??

ENGLISH, BABY!

They don't have love for Doctor Dre, Snoop Dogg, and the Lakers?! Well let it be known!

Ryan Hollins would love love to be one of the teammates that Kobe "doesn't trust"...he'd be in the mix to get a ring. Won't happen with Dirk and JKidd. Ry!

VMan,

>>> “a long plastic hallway where thieves and pimps run free,
>>> and good men die like dogs.”

Thanks. I did not realize when Jon quoted it where the quote came from. Hunter S. Thompson was truly a great gonzo warrior.

“"The music business is a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic hallway where thieves and pimps run free, and good men die like dogs. There's also a negative side."

My favorite quote of Thompson’s was this one about Bill Clinton: “He may be a swine, but he's our swine.” LOL. OJ should have pulled the trigger in the white Bronco and Slick Willie should have resigned. They both let America down by NOT doing the right thing. Of course, JMNSHBO!

Tom

It wouldn't hurt to actually CLINCH a playoff spot before trying to get into Kobe's head, Ry!

This scheme of Mr. Hollin's might work in the regular season, but not in the Playoffs.

I remember when Iverson torched us in Game 1 of the 2001-02 finals, Kobe didn't try to out mano-y-mano him and that was at the height of his alleged selfishness.

The only year I can think of where he tried to do too much was 2004-05, after the house was cleaned out and Rudy T was brought in, bailed and the franchise looked rudderless.

Also, when has this clown ever played Kobe? Does he get his scouting report from Jim Simmons? Or maybe Mark Cuban.

Here's some advice: why not work on some moves that would actually translate into NBA building blocks? Try incorporating a bank shot, a fade-away, a turnaround fade-away, scoop shot, tear drop, up-an-under and back to the basket spin moves to either your left or right hand. Oh yeah, and a add 3 point range to your resume' along with 1st team defense and you get...lo and behold...Kobe. When you're ready to eat with the big dogs, Hollins, when you're ready.

GO LAKERS!!!!!

Ryan you must don't know Ron Ron Artest

If your successful at getting Kobe to "Do to much" you better pray that he is having a very rare off night... or your toast.

Uh, I don't think this is the best strategy for the Mavs vs. Kobe.

I'm pretty sure he routinely torches them and he's single-handedly outscored them through 3 quarters. They have no answer against him, especially if he gets hot.

Either way, if they face us in the first round, they're going down in 4.

Leave it to some bruin-on-the-verge or the d-league to run his mouth when he outta keep his trap shut.

So I was just doing a little Lakerblog catchup when I (unavoidably) ran across the Hobbit-Blitz feud.

While of course 99.9% of it was completely, tediously, hideously uninteresting (this being the secondary reason I avoid anything written by Blitz, no matter who he's arguing with, just after reason no. 1: he has little facility for the English language), I did find one prime nugget in my subsequent browsage:

Quoting blitz:

"okay hobbitmage i found out why we are arguing so much after cleaning the kitchen with my wife."

Wait! Stop there! Blitz is married? Oh that poor, poor woman!

One thinks she must only suffer the marital neglect that comes as a natural consequence of all Blitz's paint-watchingly exciting blogging only because said neglect is actually preferable to spending time with him.

Bruzer, I hope this day is soon coming. We won't win a championship unless it does. I love the Mamba, but he must sacrifice the personal battles for the team, Completely!!!

"I look forward to the day when Kobe gets challenged by another player and is at peace with himself enough to blow the guy off and just play team ball, even though he may lose the one-on one battle." Bruzer

Jesterguru

How are you? Long time...

So Mark Cuban has rubbed off on the players too?

This is the same theory in which you let Kobe get his, and shut down the rest of the team and you'll win.

How did that go D'Antoni in MSG?

Oh yeah a cool 61. Nice.

Charles,

Good, brother -- aside from when I have to barely avoid brawls at Lakers games in the Rose Garden. :-) Otherwise enjoying life, travels and this extraordinary season.

You? Hope the health issues are on the upswing and that you, too, are enjoying the ride. I see a parade in our future....

Jesterguru, finally the blog noticed the long winding blitz tirades and hobbit replies. We should put them in a float at the parade and watch them wrestle w/ their fantasy NBA. Did JJ change his identity to Kobeblitz?

From John Hollinger @ ESPN.com:
"LeBron James is having a historically great season, and it's time we all took notice."
Yeah- 'cause ESPN's been ignoring him all season. Sheesh.

Rick Carlisle must be really happy about this one. While it was relatively harmless, scrubs generally should never open their mouths. Oh well, what do you expect from ex-Bruins.

BTW, what ever happened to Ruben "Kobe Stopper" Patterson?

"Oh well, what do you expect from ex-Bruins."

Posted by: EJK | March 24, 2009 at 03:00 PM

hey, hey, hey, hey now- watch your tongue my man. I don't want to have to start a hobbitmage-blitz debate with you :-)

Laughing with you, Edwin.

I think Blitz heard there was potential "parade" and thought he heard "tirade". haha

And now I may just start calling hobbitimage fantasywrestlingimage. LOL

"Rick Carlisle must be really happy about this one. While it was relatively harmless, scrubs generally should never open their mouths. Oh well, what do you expect from ex-Bruins.

BTW, what ever happened to Ruben "Kobe Stopper" Patterson? "

EJK, not sure if it that was intentional, but that segue kinda implied RP was a Bruin. For the record, let's just make sure everybody knows he was not. Neither was I, btw, but I want that guy associated with Southern California as little as possible.

Hey Lake show fans!

I love the Lakers with the best of them, so please don't hate me when I say..... I kind of agree with this dude I've never heard of when he talks about Kobe going one-on-one, etc.

Kobe is an incredible talent, and definitely the greatest in the game right now. But sometimes watching him is so frustrating. He'll abort the offense and some of his shot choices are questionable. He'll jack it up when he's got 4 other teammates wide open. And has anyone noticed his turnovers lately? He's a man that you love, but he frustrates sometimes.

What do you think Laker bloggers? Am I smokin? I think this team has the chance to be a dynasty and can't wait to have a parade in June, I just wish sometimes Kobe wouldn't shoot so much. I mean, 25-30 shot attempts?

Edwin,

>>> Did JJ change his identity to Kobeblitz?

Not a bad guess, Edwin, although blitz is a lot more stream of consciousness while JJ was more paragraphically organized. They do, however, share is a lot in terms of pomposity and long-windedness. LOL.

blitz,

Have you ever posted under another identity? An AKA? I think it would be interesting to see how many of the “new” posters were simply just “old” posters reinventing themselves. Confessions will be accepted as well as any IP addresses matched up by the Kbros.

AK,

I guess you have made sure that blitz and hobbitmage are not the same person? LOL.

Tom

Jesterguru

The shoulder is feeling better. My therapy has finished and it's all homework. The neck is fine as long as I take it easy with the grappling.

Hope to see you post more my friend. Keep repin the Great Lakes up North

hey, hey, hey, hey now- watch your tongue my man. I don't want to have to start a hobbitmage-blitz debate with you :-)

Posted by: Rob | March 24, 2009 at 03:08 PM

LOL.

Laker Tom

I confess. I post under Charles, Charles Yao, Charless (when I am in a hurry).

Jesterguru,

Nah, I wasn't trying to imply that Ruben was a Bruin. I have too much respect for Ruben to do that. JK! While I was thinking about scrubs with big mouths, Ruben just came to mind.

I was reading this article about Blake Griffin on espn and thought of another question for the K Bros and anyone else who might know the answer.

Can a player skip the draft and sign as a free agent with the team that they really want to play for?

Obviously there are players who go undrafted and earn contracts through going to camp or do their time in the d-league or in Europe. But, hypothetically, let's say that Blake Griffin really wanted to play for the Lakers. Could he not declare for the draft and sign with the team as a free agent rather than risk getting sent to NBA Siberia? I imagine there are rules about how much he could sign for. Are there restrictions beyond that?

LOL at the link

I got Smush-rolled!

If we play Dallas, Kobe Bryant should sit on the bench and file his nails while we flay them in front of Mark Cuban.

Kobe Bryant is the best player in basketball.

But the Lakers are more than Kobe Bryant... a lot more.

That's why we're the best.

What do we play for? RINGS!!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!

LakerTom,

I meant...

"A long plastic corridor where liars and cheats run free and good men die LIKE dogs."

Truly that is this blog.

However if I implied that the blog is a "long plastic corridor where liars and cheats run free and good men dye dogs", I offer my apologies.

I have never seen a good man dye a dog any color on this blog since its inception, [although I have heard rumors that Michael T. MAY have dyed a dog Phoenix orange in a marginally blog related event some time ago. (Around the "golden calves" period)].

I hope I've made this point perfectly clear.

{By the way, I stole (and mangled) that quote from Hunter S. Thompson.}

What do we play for? RINGS!!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!

Nope I haven't posted anyone else Laker Tom. I shortened my name from the blitz to Kobe blitz for simplification though.

Jesterguru,

Yes i"m married like Laker Tom is. For 20 years now. How about you?

And Hobbitmage,

To respond to why I don't think steals are a valid signs of defense: FG% is a much better indicator of defense.

That's how the great defenders made their mark. Bowen never was a great steal dude but he has won many defensive accolades. Neither Dumars nor even James Posey (when compared to how much Wade/Lebron steals). What did they have in common though? Lowering the FG% of their man they were guarding. The key to great defense is to lower the opponents FG%. Of course it isn't the only key you have to look at 3 primary things: FG%, Points per game, how many shots attempted. Example: Peja Stojakcovic 2008 series against the Spurs first two games he lit up the Spurs for 25 and 22 points for 60%. Bowen is sent against him and Peja shoots a paltry 35% and 8.6ppg never gaining more than 13. Bowen rarely stole the ball or created turnovers much for Peja. That is defense there. Now steals are a good thing which I agree but they would be more indicative of help defense of picking the passing lanes as much as going for steal on your man. But it much more difficult and most times of possession you won't get a steal. Michael and Scottie may have gotten steals but their defense was primarily locking their man down and shooting low FG% shots (like what Scottie did to Magic in 1991). Trevor for all his steals hasn't to me shown to consistently lock down his man beyond stealing. That is why I said the Bulls beat the Pistons through the triangle offense not (just) because of their defense. The Pistons in the regular season held their opponents to 45% shooting and less than 96ppg (1st in the league). Yet the Bulls shot 50%+ in 3 of the 4 games (the other one was 48.6%) not to mention 100+point games in 3 of them. Shooting 50+% against a team that holds opponents to 45% is good! Scoring 100+ points against a team that holds their opponents to 96.8ppg is very good! That is why I pointed out Kobe in 2004 Game 4 of the Finals. 38% from the field yet had 25 field goal attempts and only 20 points overall. ( I actually wouldn't have point the finger at Kobe much had it not there been a guy who getting 36 points at an incredible 70% against a very good defensive player.)

Understand why now I don't consider steals as a major part of defense Hobbit?

JMHO! (Credit goes to Laker Tom).

-KB blitz

New post.

Rob-

Boobie is a reference to the guy who did the interview with Smush, not Boobie Gibson.

lakers sth-

The short answer is no, but I can't say I know the technical answer. There are safeguards against that kind of thing, though, I believe in the CBA. Otherwise, all players coming out from college could do that. Like any FA, teams would be subject to cap rules in signing them, but they wouldn't face the salary slotting or mandatory destination that comes from the draft.

Good question.

BK

PiLoTR:

"What do you think Laker bloggers? Am I smokin? I think this team has the chance to be a dynasty and can't wait to have a parade in June, I just wish sometimes Kobe wouldn't shoot so much. I mean, 25-30 shot attempts? "

Actually I kind of agree to a point. Kobe's propensity to go mano y mano has contributed to more than one loss this season. Still, he's a special talent and in my view he only seems to resort to this mode nowadays when the "supporting cast" is having an off night.

Tom,

Funny you should bring up alias confessionals. I once posted under another name. It was something along the lines of Snarky the Wonderful Snarkster. Do you remember?

OK, I'm gonna shut up now before someone accuses me of being long-winded. (Hey, I stayed under 250.)

Charles,

Excellent news! Rock on, man.

BK,
Sometimes on the live blog I post as exhelo.
Sorry.

Jesterguru, I guess after graduating in UCLA & married for 20 years, blogging could be a lucrative profession. LakerTom, we're slow to catch up, all we had is passion.

When he is vibrant, he is called Exhelodrvr.
When he posts short, concise and smart-alec replies, he's plain EX.
And during live blog, finally he exhales, now he is exhelo.

My dream come true if Kobeblitz becomes exheloblitz, no more photographic memory just relegated to telegraphic or text's phrases. This ailment is referred as blogging amnesia. LOL!

Edwin,
How about kobedrvr?

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I was reading this article about Blake Griffin on espn and thought of another question for the K Bros and anyone else who might know the answer.

Can a player skip the draft and sign as a free agent with the team that they really want to play for?

Obviously there are players who go undrafted and earn contracts through going to camp or do their time in the d-league or in Europe. But, hypothetically, let's say that Blake Griffin really wanted to play for the Lakers. Could he not declare for the draft and sign with the team as a free agent rather than risk getting sent to NBA Siberia? I imagine there are rules about how much he could sign for. Are there restrictions beyond that?

Posted by: lakers_sth | March 24, 2009 at 03:39 PM

===============================
I would be very curious to this answer to the question.

I basically asked the same thing but with another element to the Kam Bros some while back.

I asked can Ricky Rubio bi- pass the draft and sign on as free agent? I never got a reply. Curious minds want to know! ;-))

Sorry I need to ask the question again.. who is ryan hollins?

i think the comments from mav fans sum all i want to say nicely.

"Here we are desperatly trying to make the Playoffs and this guy who hasent even been on the Mavs for 1 full year is trying to wake up Kobe..."

"
Ryan Hollins please keep your mouth shut at all times , when and if we match up with the lakers we dont want Kobe to already be pissed at us..
Ahh maybe you forgot Ron ron..
So take a step back and work on your game rather than your mouth.
By the way the "lakers games " you watched consisted of a starting line up of Kwame Brwon,Lamar Odom, Luke Walton and Smush Parker.
If you had Kobes game (Not close , But well play pretend) Would you trust those guys?
Check your mouth kid , Cause your stats are way off.."

Love it.


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