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Lakers at TrailBlazers: Every Rose (Garden) has its thorn

"...Though its been a while now
I can still feel so much pain
Like a knife that cuts you the wound heals
But the scar, that scar remains..."

Ah, Poison.  So much poetry. 

Of course, Bret Michaels and Co. were singing, in classic hair band ballad style, of lost love, heartache,Poison cowboys, and gardening.  But heading into tonight's game against the Blazers in the great north of Oregon, that magic verse could just as easily describe LA's track record at the Rose Garden, a place where the Lakers haven't won since 2005. That's six straight losses, including a few in seasons where the Blazers weren't so good.  The wound indeed heals, but that scar remains, people.  Phil Jackson blames it on the rain (so do these guys), but whatever the reason, the Lakers have their work cut out for them. Portland is 26-5 on their home floor, putting up vastly better numbers than they do on the road, have tough covers like LaMarcus Aldridge and Brandon Roy, and have a crowd that takes games against the Lakers very seriously.  So do the players.  (Listen to them talk about it here.

Greg Oden won't play tonight because of a chipped kneecap, and may not be back on the floor for a while.  Sucks for your fantasy team.  Anyone with Kobe Bryant, though, could be happier than normal.  In his last 13 games against the Blazers, Bryant has averaged 35.2 points.

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Mon.Mar. 9, 2009 Lakers(50-12) vs. Blazers(39-23)
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I like the musically themed headline.

"Blame it on the Rain" might've been funnier though.

Good one either way.

Mamba, JG is present in PTown!

Thanks for starting off my morning with a little Brett Michaels, K Bros. It makes a nice bookend to Rock Of Love, which sent me to bed last night.

OK, an informal poll:

Should JesterGuru
A) Attend the game and make lots of pro-Lakers noise tonight, despite having yet to see a Lakers win in four years in portland?
B) Stay home and watch on TV because I may be cursing the squad?

To quote another great ( though fictional) Northwesterner, "I'm listinening...."

Jon K,

Stay here dude. Sure there are bloggers who may misunderstand you for what you said but you are cool here man. You have friends here that will stand up for you!

-KB Blitz

Judging by that blog you linked us to, Blazer fans seem to have a serious inferiority complex.

They're a good team and they've owned the Lakers at home the last few years, so I don't really get it.

I guess if you've only won 1 championship in nearly 40 years and have retired jerseys of guys like Dave Twardzik, Bob Gross, Lloyd Neal, and Larry Steele it's bound to happen.


If ever there was a poster that doesn't need protecting it would be the formidable Jon K, Taoist blog beast.

Hearts planted firmly in the right place, cannot be dislodged.
Go Jon, Go Blog, let the words fly.

Go Lakers

For the record, it's not raining. It's freaking snowing.

Should JesterGuru
A) Attend the game and make lots of pro-Lakers noise tonight, despite having yet to see a Lakers win
in four years in portland?
B) Stay home and watch on TV because I may be cursing the squad?

(B.) And not because you would be cursing the squad but because it will feel just that much better when you attend
THE VICTORY PARADE LIVE IN COLOR YOUR 2009 NBA CHAMPION LOS ANGELES LAKERS!!!!!

Good morning Mamba and the rest of the Laker family.

Whoa...those two sings took me back. I guess I just dated myself.

We've got to get out of this slump against the Blazers tonight. They're all aware of our interior defense issues and plan to "attack the boards". I'm calling for LO to step up bigtime and DJ Mbenga to give us a few blocks off the bench. We've got to start this road trip on the right note. F*&% the rain...we're gonna make it rain up at the Rose Garden tonight.

GO LAKERS!!! I'm definitely on the 1st to 60 wins bandwagon.

Lets win this thing and BE LIMITATION AND CURSE BUSTERS!!!! Seriously, we need to be calm and perform under pressure. This will be good practice.

JESTERGURU,

At the game. Your noise may (added to our RALLY CAPS) may be the difference between a win and a loss.

MAMBA24,

I'll take a bandwagon with that roll-call, please.

AT LEAST 60!! FIRST THERE AND MORE!! YES YES YES!!!!

GOoooooOOOOO LAKERS!!!!!

I hope you see this post too Hobbitmage because I got another argument of yours to bust up!

One of the reasons why you don't like LO at SF which you explained to Laker Tom is that his rebound will go down because he is "farther away from the basket". 1st off yes you are correct his rebounding would go down but not because of him "farther away from the basket" but rather because there are 2 other good rebounders nearby (Pau and Bynum) and Kobe who rebounds very good as well.

Here are some "farther away from the basket" dudes who rebounded pretty damn well!:

Larry Bird SF: 6 seasons rebounding 10+, Never had less than 8.5 (his 6 rpg season doesn't count because he only played 6 games) and that was impressive considering he had to compete against McHale and Parish for rebounds!
Oscar Robertson: 3 seasons rebounding 10+, 3 season averaging 6+, pretty good for a PG/SG/SF who was "away from the basket.
Dr. J SF/SG: 3 seasons of rebounding 10+, averaged 7+ rebounds for a few more season, pretty good for a guy who was "away from the basket"
Jerry West: Had 7 seasons rebounding 6+ rebounds per game not to mention he not only was 6-2 but played away from the basket!
Magic Johnson: 8 seasons rebounding 7+ rebounds as a PG! Wait he couldn't possibly be averaging those number of rebounds he was well away from the basket!
Lamar Odom at SF for the Lakers (05-06 season): 9.2 rebounds, jee that is quite impressive as he was the leading rebounder that season and yet was "farther away" from the basket!
Rick Barry SF: 4 seasons averaging 9+ rebounds yet he's only 6-7 and away from the basket!
Lebron James 07-08 season: 8 rebounds per game not bad for a dude who plays the point from the perimeter much that year also!

Those guys are examples that just because you are "away from the basket' more don't mean you can't be good rebounders. Reason why there aren't as much good rebounding SF compared to PF/C? Easy because most depend on PF/C to rebound so they can instead go to the other side of the court. Guys who are great rebounders don't just stand there and wait for the rebound to come they go after it regardless of whatever position they play!

3 Most important skills for rebounding:

1) Skill
2) Will
3) Boxing out (this will help get more rebounds unless it's a long rebound.

Height/Athleticism/Size/and court position does help get more rebounds but they are mere appetizers for the main course which are the skills above. Example would be Chris Mihm, a 7 footer and at center position yet only averaged 6rpg while LO was outrebounding him constantly from the "away from the basket" position of SF!

Like I said you are right about LO's rebounding going down if he's at SF when Bynum returns. But that is primarily because he's competing against 2 other good rebounders (3 including Kobe) and simply there is not enough rebounds to go around!

-KB Blitz


FIRST TO HIT 60 WINS BANDWAGON
***
(01) RICK FRIEDMAN - OWNER
(02) MAMBA24 - DRIVER - I'm driving straight to the Title Jon k. your
Ring will be waiting at the start of the parade.
(03) EASTCOASTJESSIE - I'm definitely on the 1st to 60 wins bandwagon.
(04) JOHNNYP - AT LEAST 60!! FIRST THERE AND MORE!! YES YES YES!!!!
(05)

**
GET WELL SOON BYNUM THE BEAST PRAYER BANDWAGON
***.*
(00) utzworld THE BANNER HOLDER –CO/OWNER/CHAPLAIN – LET US
PRAY FOR DIVINE HEALING. Dear Lord you create all greatness so let
your child Andrew heal quickly in order to express that greatnes and thus
give tribute to thou greatenss - AMEN
(01) LAKER-TOM CO/OWNER - Drew will return for April 3rd home game against
Yao and the Rockets as the Lakers return from a 7-game road trip..
(02) MAMBA24 - DRIVER - I shall drive to the ends of the earth to get a healer
(03) WESJOENIXON = This is mickey mouse. If Bynum's people can't be on time,
they needn't be involved
(04) SHE-KOBE - Don't worry, Guys, everything will be fine with Bynum.
(05) BLUESKY - He is youing, he will recover soon
(06) DAVE M. - Has Laker Tom posted since this happened? He's probably holed
up with Nepalese temple ball worry beads... don't worry buddy -
the Beast WILL be back!
(07) GOLAKESHOW - ahhhhhhhhh the anxiety! i cant take it!!! My
heart skips a beat every time I refresh the blog.....
(08) KOREY - To say we need Bynum to win a championship, is an understatement.
(09) NICK ESPI - lets just hope hes going to sore for a bit and he will be fine
(10) LG - The suspense is killing me. Feel better soon Drew!
(11) THE LAKE SHOW - Drew if you read this, keep your head up and prevail!
(12) FLOYD - it felt like our chance for a championship just went out the window
and the wait for next year just began
(13) JON K - I don't like this at all.God, please bless Andrew Bynum,
his knee, and his doctors.
(14) RICKY - I'm glad Bynum chose to forgo the Laker's supposed specialist and
went back to see his own doctor.
(15) MRBARNEYDANGLES - Lets just all pray that he is able to return asap.
(16) SBPIMP - Honestly, we're doing just fine, people. Let the dude rest up as long
as he needs, and we'll get back at it when he can. In the meantime, we've got
games to win. Don't forget that sending positivity out to the universe brings it back
to you. Let's not badmouth Vitti and the staff - they did just get us Farmar back in
half the estimated time.
(17) LEONARD BAST - i'm going to remain optimistic that this won't
be season ending, and will just be sprain.
(18) FAITH - Let's continue to have faith that things will work out. Hopefully.
(19) ROCKY - Dear LakerGod,Please don't allow the MRI results
to be devastating
(20) JUSTANOTHERMAMBA - SOCKS - get well soon buddy!
WE NEED YOU!!
(21) PSYCHED LAKER GIRL - Hi all: I am leaning toward the Laker conspiracy theory
in that the Lakers PR office (and PJ with his psychological mind games) wants the
Cavs, Celtics to think something is wrong and he will be out for a while and to prepare
for him to be out...........BUT that he will miraculously play in BOTH games and
those teams will not be prepared for him........Thoughts????
(22)MIKE AND MIKE - Please Drew come back soon. I saw the look on
Kobe's face, made me feel depressed.
(23) CBUCK – I was with Bynum when nobodoy else was.
(24) LAL_FAN - Your biggest Fan
(25) JOHNNY P. – I want the Beast to come roaring Back
(26) BD - I think we will need 2 Bynums down low. Andrew we need
you...hurry up and get back so the defense doesn't look pathetic and
at the same time you can shut up the Homers who think we might be
better without you or the Lakers play better with LO. No Bynum No Championship!
Get Well Bynum!! No Bynum No Championship
(27) TALIQ - skobe said u make us championship caliber, lakertom says you're mr. franchise,
I say that ring wouldn't be as sweet without u yo"
(28) BD - ANDREW GET WELL--WE NEED YOU! OUR REBOUNDING SUCKS!

Jon. K,

Your remarks about communism re: Sun was not a racist remark. So don't let the short sighted, narrow minded folks who misinterpreted your post ruin your day. I personally think Mamba24’s post on bandwagon should not be posted. Mamba24 write something we can read and enjoy for a change .

West Coast Mob Boss

This Rose says we are winning at that Rose.

Love
Rose

Mamba, put me on Rick's first to 60 and your 70. And thanks for the lucky barstool!

Hey Jon, I got to own a bandwagon, all because you took a few bullets! Sweeeet!! Now all I need is some brownies.

Mamba24 - "First to hit 60 wins" bandwagon?? This is rolling without me??? C'mon man!!! Where's the love???

This mark - first to 60 - is a no-brainer.
Everyone should be on it.

Now - first to 70 is a completely different ballgame. That one I'm not as sure about as you, Mamba24!! But hey - if you have FAITH, then I do too - lol!

GO LAKERS!

We have your back Jon!!!!!!!!

hog

Jon K.'s Early Thoughts That He Has Put A Little Thought Into So Far:

1. I'm still in a bad mood for being called a "racist" for insulting Communism. (Huh?) I'm wondering if its okay for me to insult Nazism now or is that also taboo?

2. I'm grateful that a lot of bloggers stood up for me. I'm thankful for that.

3. It bothers me the way that Blazers fans are treating Greg Oden. I know he's the enemy and all, but the guy seems like a good dude who's going through a bad spell. That's all.

4. I'm still befuddled as to why so many Oregon fans are such rabid haters. I've been to Oregon. It's a beautiful place. I had a good experience with the people there. Why do they turn into werewolves when it comes to sports and playing teams from California?

5. Poison sure looks silly in that photo. Good (if not very serious) songwriters, but, man, they sure look silly.

6. Could the Lakers finish the season with 70 wins? Sure they COULD and it would be AWESOME if they do, but I think a more realistic expectation would be 68 wins. That's still pretty optimistic, but they are definitely capable of it.

7. The only way the Lakers are going to hit 70 wins is if they go off on a 10 game win streak. Once they hit double digit straight wins, pressure will be put on the team to win it out all the way and that pressure would be good for them.

8. Is Andrew Bynum back yet? Because, ummm... it sure would be nice if Andrew Bynum was back.

9. Outside of Bynum, the Lakers have done pretty well this season in terms of managing injuries. {Knock on wood} God willing that positive trend will continue.

10. Out here in Cleveland, Cavs fans are muttering to themselves that they need home court advantage to make it to the Finals. They don't think they can beat Boston without home court.

11. Boston lost last night! Woohoo!!! Unfortunately, they lost to Orlando. Of the teams in the East, Orlando scares me the most for some reason. Dwight Howard is a monster.

12. I sure hope we win tonight. A win would be good in a whole lot of different way and I like that.

13. I've got an inside on a job in Los Angeles. I pray it works out. It would be awesome to celebrate a Championship in Los Angeles instead of from my lucky barstool.

What do we play for? RINGS!!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!

Jon,

It's time for you to come home to LA. There's a long list of bloggers here you can use as references.

If (when) you land the job, it's only right that you bring that lucky bar stool here with you!

Way to go Jon.

Keep it coming.

"MAKE IT LOUD.

If you haven’t been to a Blazers vs Fakers game before you need to be prepared. There will be an abnormally high volume of people wearing Purple and Gold. A winning record and a winning history have created a lot of bandwagoners over the years and they will spend their entire months income to watch the Fakers play. Be careful when interacting with these people because many of them are criminals."

haha blazers fans calling us "criminals" lol!!!

Off topic...anyone think Sir Charles got off easy this weekend with his 3-day jail stint?? I mean come one, no pink undies for Sir Charles? What is he, royalty? That alone would have given TNT their storyline for the rest of the season.

Jon,

You were unfairly maligned, Jon. As half-Chinese, I know you are surely not a racist but condemning communism is almost as politically incorrect as condemning Rush Limbaugh. LOL. Glad to hear about the lead on a job in LA. No Laker fan should be condemned to a life in Cleveland, no matter how good the opportunity. Something to remember for any Lakers fan thinking of taking a job anywhere but the West Coast.

Tom

Mamba 24, I will deliver the 59th win with Domination Pizza and I'm also included on Jon K will hold the barstool as he lament all the isms, will be open bar tonite from Anna in Bondi to Rick Friedman in West LA, let all liquor prohibition flow freely for all laker fans of all races and colors. Most of all, we will paint the Rose Garden purple and gold. Speaking of gold, if you have a gold tooth, sell it now while the price is at its prime.

Off topic...anyone think Sir Charles got off easy this weekend with his 3-day jail stint??
I mean come one, no pink undies for Sir Charles? What is he, royalty? That alone
would have given TNT their storyline for the rest of the season.
Posted by: EastCoastJessie | March 09, 2009 at 11:49 AM

ROFLMFAO!!! You better believe that Kenny will be riding his behind the rest of the
season pink undies or not! LOL!

Larry(Mamba24)

News: Former NBA star Charles Barkley was released from jail Monday after serving a three-day sentence on a drunken-driving conviction.

~~ Does it mean he's not eligible anymore to run for Alabama governor due to this conviction? How come Jerry Buss did not go to jail? No, I didn't wish it just curious how the DUI law applies?

*****
WISH JON K WELL ON GETTING LA JOB BANDWAGON
*****
(01) SIR CHARLES - Way to go Jon.\
(02) RICK FRIEDMAN - It's time for you to come home to LA. There's a long
list of bloggers here you can use as references. If (when) you land the job,
it's only right that you bring that lucky bar stool here with you
(03) CANIBUS HOG - We Have Your Back Jon K.
(04) MAMBA24 - If anybody can do it Jon K. Can
(05) VMAN - If ever there was a poster that doesn't need protecting it would be the
formidable Jon K
(06) KOBEBLITZ – JON K. You have friends here that will stand up for you!
(07) LAKER TOM - Glad to hear about the lead on a job in LA.No Laker fan should be
condemned to a life in Cleveland, no matter how good the opportunity. Something to
remember for any Lakers fan thinking of taking a job anywhere but the

Hairspray rock(n)roll....disgusting......
If the bench plays well we win.....Or if Kobe hits 3 or 4 circus 3point shots like a few years back we still win.....

Stop Steve Blake as well.....

New thread!

AK

Having felt the pain from this thorn for so long,
TONITE is our NIGHT to handle the rose with utmost finesse and smell the fragrance of VICTORY!!!!!!

GOOOOOOOLAKERS!!!!!!!!!


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