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Pins and needles: Waiting for Bynum's results

Drew_scream MRI stands for "magnetic resonance imaging", a fancy-shmancy type of test that allows quacks to check out a person's innards and figure out what's wrong.  But for Laker fans, it might as well stand for "massively restless individuals," because the results of Andrew Bynum's test being delayed has extended a fear of the unknown. 

The famous knee expert David Altcheck wasn't available to return from Florida on Sunday in enough time to eyeball the film, meaning we won't learn anything until today.  Thus, the Lakers are forced to make the best of the situation. Get in the usual practice rigors, then prepare for life without Drew for, at the very least, tonight's game against the Knickerbockers.

On the plus side, this is a situation the Lakers have dealt with and conquered in the past.  Lest we forget, the Lakers made it all the way to the Finals with Pau Gasol in the middle and Lamar Odom at the four.  Certainly, hope isn't lost if games are played with Bynum on the sidelines.  But that doesn't change the fact Drew's absence not only makes the Lakers less formidable, but could change the entire complexion of the Western Conference

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(01) JON K - OWNER - I'm on the "Start Chris Mihm" bandwagon. Keep
the Bench Mob intact
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Start Mihm and maintain the bench mob.
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What the hell Stephen A.? Championship hopes are dead? What is he talking about? We made it to the finals last year without Bynum at all (or Ariza) and we don't know the extent of this injury. If he's back in 6 weeks, as early reports are indicating, that gives him a full month of regular season to get back into the swing of things.

We'll be fine as long as Mitch does his thing, and swaps Odom for Bosh

Kobe's expression in that pic is priceless... like Awww Damn......

Chris Mihm??? He's useless.

The anticipation is killing me. I've refreshed this page at least twenty times today.

Please add me to the "START CHRIS MIHM & MAINTAIN BENCH MOB - BANDWAGION **"

That's what Chris is there for. It's the only way he'll really get his timing back.

Stephen A = Yellow Journalist.

I have no respect for him. He and Skip Bayless aren;t reporters and shouldn't pose as them. They're entertainers.

At least they should admit it.

LOL Vonislav. Get er done Mitch! Haha.

I continue to be optimistic about this. After hearing Drew and Kobe, I can't help but. Keep the faith lakerville!

This is getting ridiculous, I almost feel like taking a flight to NYC, find that doctor, take him in a headlock to the MRI results, and go Jack Bauer on him until he finishes analyzing the results. Ok Jack Bauer is a little overkill, but I just can't understand why it's taking so long

Rambis: "“There’s nothing we can do about it. What’s happened has happened, and our team has to stay positive and move forward.” Yikes! That sounds pretty grim.

I understand the pins and needles comment but not the eggshells one. Was David Lee just throwing out phrases that sound good or does he mean that they have to watch what they're saying?

If Bosh isn't going to be part of Toronto's future, I wonder if they'd consider trading him this year for an expiring contract so they don't have to pay his salary next year? LO for Bosh anyone? Spare me the Toronto won't do it b/c LO isn't the same calibre of player. I propose this simply as a salary dump move. It has nothing to do with how good LO is which seems to be what escapes people when looking at the trade for Pau. It had nothing to do with talent. Kwame wasn't a player. He was a ledger entry.

Puddle - Just making it back to the Finals isn't good enough. Ariza was there last year and is admittedly playing on a much higher level this year but the reason why the Lakers lost last year was not being able to match-up against a stronger Boston frontline. Drew v Perkins, Pau v Garnett and LO v Powe is a lot different than Pau v Perkins, LO v Garnett and Powell v Powe. Boston's D is predicated on their bigs being able to help. With Drew in the line-up, it takes away their main strength b/c they can't leave anyone on the frontline. They have to play man-to-man or they'll be made to pay. Plus, Drew's impact in blocking and altering shots is something no one else on the team has been able to duplicate. This is, of course, assuming that Boston makes it back. But Drew's absence on D will be felt against the Crabs or Magic as well, not to mention against whoever they face in the Western Conf playoffs. From what I've seen, as soon as Bynum comes out of the game, the opposition attacks the rim with success.

Wow, the first domino falls, the Bosh situation is going to rattle through the league, this also makes Jermaine ONeal a lock to get traded somewhere. It's so hard to tell who is going to go the full rebuild route and who is going to gamble on the free agents. Shaq probably has some kind of say over where he might go in trade so it would have to be a contender. Also, what would NY be willing to give up to get Nash? AssUming, of course, that PHX decides to blow it up. Wonder if Amare has any kind of trade restrictions? Would he agree to go to Toronto? I seriously doubt it...

On another note, Kwame Brown should have his bags packed and be ready to join the Lakers soon if Bynum is out for more than 6 weeks. Seems like a no brainer to me, Detroit has no use for him, nobody in the league really does but Phil can make use of him, at least enough to let Gasol get some rest and not take as much of a pounding down low. Plus, he has a much cheaper contract now and there's no denying he's really just a bench player. He can't get off the bench in Memphis and he can't get off the bench in Detroit, I think reality has started to seep in.

Whoa, I see the post but I can't believe it's not a joke, START CHRIS MIHM? Don't have much experience with basketball, do you? LOL!

As far as Bynum being prone to these types of injuries, fact of the matter is that he stepped on LO's foot for the first one and Kobe rolled into his leg for the second. Does his knock-kneed-ness mean that a person without that wouldn't have been injured as severe?

Sorry about that link earlier, didn't notice it was speculation and not the real deal. Guess I'm just anxious for any news, my bad.

-bozz-

AK/BK ...

Umm ok the MRI results aren't out but how come nobody is giving us any updates on what his appearance is like ... e.g. is he on crutches, walking on his own, did it swell up, does it hurt etc etc? ... lemme guess why bother if all we gotta do is wait till 2nite?

Sigh ... y aint journalists like dey r in d movies ... always going that extra mile to get the scoop ... these days articles read like "it was reported by espn that the latimes reported that the athlete posted on his website that he hopes to be ..."

Hi All:

STH - agreed totally.

I am going to repost a little bit but I am going to throw out this theory as to why we are waiting so long....

The longer we wait allows the Lakers PR machine and Phil to make the Cavs/Celts believe that AB won't be playing. So, when they start focusing on our game later this week - they will have to prepare as if he weren't playing.

But we will show them......... we will have AB back for both games and the opposition won't be prepared.

Just hoping.............

GO LAKERS!!

Put me on the start Mihm bandwagon, Mamba. Please!!

ok. so I'm an orthopaedic surgeon (no, really).

Here's where all the B.S. about the Bynum situation really bothers me:
1) The MRI is usually first read by a radiologist, not the orthopaedic doc that is taking care of the patient. There should have been an MRI report already. Especially at HSS, where I think Allteck works. They have a couple of the best musculoskeletal MRI radiologists in the world working there

2) The MRI data is digitized. It is usually then put onto an online database of some sort. You don't have to physically go to location where the MRI was done in order to read the MRI. A lot of MRI places will pool their data and have someone read them from a remote location, often in another state. Allteck could have easily hopped onto a computer and looked at Andrew's images

this is worrisome to me. they're holding information back..

Taliq-

I've been wearing my fedora with the "Press" card stuck in the band all morning.

BK

lakers_sth -

I agree that making it back isn't good enough. My point is, why should Stephen A. declare our title hopes over because of this injury? NONE of us freaking know what the extent of this injury is!! If, and it's a big if, Bynum can come back, which early reports seem to indicate that he can, there's no reason to make such a rash statement.

If Bynum can't come back - ugh. I don't even want to think about it because it makes me nauseated.

LOL @ TALIQ

MAMBA24~

Somewhere along the way, I fell off the roll call!!

I tried not to let it bug me, but with Andrew needing all the positive vibes possible, I better jump back in the fold and be counted!! Many Thanks.


Lakers_sth,
"Does his knock-kneed-ness mean that a person without that wouldn't have been injured as severe"

At least for last year's injury; nothing has been said about the most recent injury yet. But it seems unlikely that three serious knee injuries (assuming this last one is "serious") in 5 years are unrelated to each other.

It's important for people to remember as well that just because there isn't any information being released, it doesn't necessarily mean the MRI isn't getting read. Dr. Altchek has probably seen it. Perhaps they're having a couple docs take a look. Perhaps they want to run a couple other tests, or do a physical examination as well. I doubt, though, that the whole thing is being delayed because Dr. Altchek is at Dave and Busters or something.

BK

Referring to doctors as quacks is insulting. The Kam brothers are showing themselves to be just a couple of hacks.

Somewhere along the way, I fell off the roll call!! I tried not to let it bug me, but with
Andrew needing all the positive vibes possible, I better jump back in the fold and be
counted!! Many Thanks. Posted by: Debbie M | February 02, 2009 at 10:46 AM

Sorry! you're back. You'll be in row 10. My apologies

Thanks for any updates provided AK..and BK.

But normally when i want info...theres normally someone out there beating down doors to get it (Not saying yall are not)...

POST OF THE DAY:
I've been wearing my fedora with the "Press" card stuck in the band all morning. BK

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START CHRIS MIHM & MAINTAIN BENCH MOB - BANDWAGION **
****
(01) JON K - OWNER - I'm on the "Start Chris Mihm" bandwagon. Keep
the Bench Mob intact
(02) MAMBA24 - Long time fan. Chris you have been missed
(03) BOZZ - I'm on that start Mihm bandwagon. I like Lamar with the second
unit and Chris is still an NBA level starter. He just needs the reps.
Start Mihm and maintain the bench mob.
(04) MRBARNEY DANGLES – START MIHM Even better....COME BACK SOON DREW
(05) DAVE M. - I'd join the Mihm bandwagon... maybe short starter
minutes (like Vlad or Luke, haha).
(06) PIG MILLER - Start Mihm and maintain the bench mob.
(07) JUSTANOTHERMAMBAFAN - Mihm (with a little more burn) will be great
He was our starting center in the not-too-distant past and did quite well
as I recall. He'd be a starter on another team...
(8) LONGTIMELAKERLOVER - Put me on the start Mihm bandwagon

MAMBA24,

Love your Roll Call...especially towards the very end, when you pay homage to Laker Hall of Famer, Gail GOODWIN!!!!

Thanks for history lesson.

Taliq is right on point. Why no report on how Bynum is feeling? He was all smiles after the Memphis game, did his knee improve the next day after a good night's rest? Did it swell, did it hurt more, etc? But really, the comment about current news being just "ESPN is reporting that sources from SI who have confirmed with the 2nd cousin of the equipment manager that we still don't know what's going on".

i'm going to drive the "Do Not Start Chris Mihm Bandwagon," LOL! no, seriously, Mihm needs to come off the bench, and prove that he's capable, and deserves to start. or else it would totally be a slap in the face to Lamar. plus, a Gasol/Odom frontline took LA to the finals last year.

i understand the rationale of keeping the bench in tact, but honestly, we have so much fire-power coming off the bench, do we really need Odom on there? Farmar, Sasha, Vladdy, Trevor, Mihm and Powell will do just fine. plus i'm sure Kobe, Pau, and Lamar will play increased minutes. Kobe will be looking to put games away by the 3rd Quarter, so he, D-Fish, and Pau can sit out the 4th.

as far as Lakers going after Bosh, i really don't see the positive in that. first, i assume a trade (Lamar for Bosh) wouldn't work salary-wise. next, Bosh plays Center, and we're pretty solid at that position, unless you're asking Bosh or Bynum to come off the bench. someone won't be happy with that. right now, i think Bynum is better than Bosh (injury aside). the only positions i can see the lakers upgrading are at small forward and point guard.

speaking of which, i think Lakers should consider signing Bonzi Wells, before the Celtics go after him. even if he sucks or can't make the rotation, he can ride the pine as our 15th man, and thus keeping him away from our competitors. (a NY Yankees tactic) whatcha think?

" I doubt, though, that the whole thing is being delayed because Dr. Altchek is at Dave and Busters or something."

Chuck E. Cheese, maybe. But definitely not Dave and Buster's.

AK

1 thing is clear.

Laker Mgt knows the results by now and the longer they go without releasing the results tells me it might be bad news.

They did the same thing last year before Eric Pincus broke the story on being out 8 weeks which of course ended up being the year.

Who breaks the story first Eric Pincus or MikeB at LAT?

BD

Yeah, Kambros, if you REALLY cared you'd hop the first plane to NY and get the scoop on how Drew's moving, if he's walking, what he ate for breakfast, what kind of floss he uses, what brand of underwear he prefers, etc... Not to mention expose why the Ortho doc can't get off his butt and read the MRI.

Seriously though, this waiting is killing me. I can't stand it. It's been a LONG time now, and someone who knows SOMETHING should have read it by now. And if they've read it, which undoubtedly they have (seriously folks - imaging keeping the Lakers waiting - although a doc with a "God complex" might) then they are probably coming up with some sort of game plan. Hey, for all we know, he might have already had surgery. The fact that no one is talking seems suspicious.

The saying goes that "no news is good news" but in this case I'm not feeling very positive. If it turns out that no news really is good news, then I'm happy to be wrong.

In the meantime, KILL THE KNICKS. Lakers gotta come out with energy and efficiency and just kick the crap outta some Knick butt. Make Pringles scream with the blatant dominance of that team.

GO LAKERS!!!!!!!
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i'm sure that's the case BK. and Altchek probably has many other high-profile clients, too. he's gotta pencil in Andrew Bynum in between Dick Cheney, Plaxico Burress, and Paula Abdul (i'm sure Paula is fine, i just threw her name in there for effect).

As I understand it they have a weird technological backwards thing going on. They're probably still using a pc haha.

Go Bynum! Go Lakers!

Bk,

He's probably at PF Changs. Longer wait.

If Andrew had not got hurt I would think the Lakers might have an interest in Bosh.

Pau/LO for Bosh....Pau gets to play with his buddy Calderon.

A HEALTHY Bynum and Bosh...I sure can dream. LOL!

But back to reality which means I pray that AB17 is ok.

BD

This is torture. Terrible to hold this up for so long. Just tell us he's out for the season and put us out of our misery.

There is no way that no news is good news.

This is so depressing.

I still think we can win it all without AB, but the lack of toughness and defensive presence is going to be the achilles heel again. The success of our season now depends on Lamar Odem. I can't believe I'm saying it, but that's really what it comes down too. Yippeeee. Time for my third bloody mary this morning.

BK,

"I've been wearing my fedora with the "Press" card stuck in the band all morning."

If you're claiming you're in nyc, tried talking to a few players, asked whether Bynum made it to their superbowl party last night, and asked whether he walked into the room on his own blah ... then no complaints from this blog faithful ... otherwise you get a pass as a blogger but I reserve the right to remain dissapointed at all the other media outlets

For instance take what Sean said:

"A lot of MRI places will pool their data and have someone read them from a remote location, often in another state. Allteck could have easily hopped onto a computer and looked at Andrew's images"

Why can't espn get a doc on sportscenter to go hey the Bynum thing seems strange, you dont have to be physically there to interprete an mri ... idk ... i know it hasn't been long since their sunday deadline for mri results but the wait is torture ...

Like even if we win it all, i'd rather win it with bynum than without him. He's a big part of our recent history and more importantly it takes less effort to win with him which improves the odds of winning multiple championships due to less wear and tear on the team

So BK, then you're indicating to us that Andrew's injury must be either serious or tricky--which still in my book is serious. It's either a good tear and theyre trying to figure out how many ligaments are blown..what type of surgery to do

OR its about trying to figure out if theres a need for surgery because cant tell if theres a severe tear or cartlidge damage that may or may not be present..which would mean rest for Bynum but then the chance that hes hurt than previously imagined and we're back to last year.

For those who wondered if Baby Bynum was worthy of his new contract, consider how this 21 year old manchild's knee and health hold such a swing in the balance of power for the entire NBA. With him, the Lakers go from a very good team to a potential "one for the ages" team.

Get well soon, Drew...The Show ain't the same without you!!

Here is a positive-negative spin from a quackery maker. A primary physician diagnosis who are used to seeing sprains from kids, athletes and from experience already said six weeks with rest and rehab, I think the diagnosis there is minimum of three weeks at best and maximum of six at worst. However, they have to wait for the "first class quack", a specialist from NuYok who needs to see all kinds of imagery and transform his own guess into science, that's Dr. Altcheck. They should be treating the brains of Wall Street CEO's who are doing more damage to the economy than attending to BYnum. LOL! During recession time, a specialist cares more of how much coffers will be flowing in than the essence of time by Lakers and its fans. Do you think doctors of today are honest? How many of you have scheduled an appointment with a specialists? They go with the rigorous method of checking the insurance, reviewing historical experiences with patience & consulting their legal consultants or caveat for possible misdiagnosis before treating a patient! In times of hardship of finding patients with the means and good insurance plan like what Bynum has, first is his medical insurance coverage, second is a bonus from the Lakers, so they deliberate longer. Immediate attention means late Monday well in order to add more diagnostic fees. Historically. Dr. Altcheck is not reliable, the last time he said 8 weeks, that went to almost half year of waiting for AB and missed the Finals. Centinela Hospital, UCLA and USC have better orthopedic guess-specialist not as celebrated as Altcheck but effective and quick without so much fanfare. See how Farmar was treated, Luke Walton, Gerald Wallace, don't need any grandstanding of waiting, waiting, waiting. I'll just take what the primary physician said and Altcheck will guess in the end and just copy that primary doctor's report with a specialist fee. LMAO!!!!

leonardbast - Bosh for LO does work salary-wise. That's why I proposed it. It's an even swap. And, the rationale to do the move would be if Bynum is done for the season. It would basically be renting Bosh for this season and next. Next year would be a major juggling act but next year is a long time away.

Put it this way - do you think Bosh would want to do it and get a shot at a ring sooner than he'd expected? Do you think Toronto would want to do it so they wouldn't have to pay $15M next year to a player they know is leaving anyway? Do you think the Lakers would rather have Bosh than LO?

Taliq,

To clarify, BK and I aren't in NY. We're in L.A. We don't travel with the team, save the odd game here and there. Particularly not during lean economic times for a certain newspaper.

AK

My 2 Cents.......Not that it matters.....But if its bad,Lamar Odom will be moved for s bigger bodied player...I cant see Mitch and the rest of the staff trying to go with the same team that did not work....Even Kobe said after season was over...With Bynum in the middle it makes a big difference .....

Get ready for a trade....

Ex - So, Bynum's genetics made last year's injury more serious than if a regular person would've stepped on LO's foot?

BD -

it better be Trudell or John Ireland - they have nothing else to do in NYC than camp out at this guys office and track both Doctor and AB's movements.....

GO LAKERS!

An extra 2 cents.....If Kwame rejoins the Lakers i am going to throw my computer into the closest river,Lake or water way near my house.....Is that understood?..............

Please No.

Mamba24, I trust Mihm he used to average 10 pts a game and 10 rebounds eventhough Mike T. calls him weak from shoulder to waist, as long as he can duplicate that performance before he got injured, we will be OK. Mihm has three injuries, one is the elbow and the other one is the foot that sidelined him for almost two season and third one, the third one on the brain caused by Phil Jackson "no confianza" he treated him a garbage player so he became a garbage. What do you expect a slumdog becomes a millionaire without the TV show. haha! I have more faith in Mihm than in Luke b/c the guy is humble and quiet and go with the process without any controversies on teammates and blog. Nobody expect him to be another Drew but if he can make 10/10 we're in the ball game. Then bring in Mbenga on the bench who could add 5/5, we got two players in exchange of one Andrew!

Puddle - S.A.S. is prone to making rash generalizations and pontificating for sure. But, his answer to the direct question of "How much would losing Bynum right now hurt the Lakers?" is one I agree with. I don't think the Lakers win without him.

And btw - I don't want to be right about anything negative about the Lakers. I'd be overjoyed to be wrong.

Sean wrote:

***ok. so I'm an orthopaedic surgeon (no, really).***

***Here's where all the B.S. about the Bynum situation really bothers me:
1) The MRI is usually first read by a radiologist, not the orthopaedic doc that is taking care of the patient. There should have been an MRI report already. Especially at HSS, where I think Allteck works. They have a couple of the best musculoskeletal MRI radiologists in the world working there***

This is what I originally thought, for at least for a preliminary diagnosis, but apparently not in all cases and especially high profile ones like this I suspect. Nor do I think the Lakers or Bynum would even accept such a lower technician's analysis on it in any way and would wait for the opinions of the specialist.

Cont:

***2) The MRI data is digitized. It is usually then put onto an online database of some sort. You don't have to physically go to location where the MRI was done in order to read the MRI. A lot of MRI places will pool their data and have someone read them from a remote location, often in another state. Allteck could have easily hopped onto a computer and looked at Andrew's images***

***this is worrisome to me. they're holding information back..***

I understood that the Lakers' medical staff back here in L.A. actually attempted to view the MRI imagery remotely this way. But due to some kind of computer incompatibility between this N.Y. hospital's computers and the ones used by the Lakers' doctors, they couldn't link-up properly so they were unable to view the MRI images.

Bynum was with the team watching the Superbowl last night, what else do you guys want reporters to do? Last night, Bynum knew about as much as we do, he was still hopeful:

from the LAT:

"We're all just on pins and needles waiting," said Bynum's agent, David Lee. "We're all walking on eggshells."

"Bynum was unavailable for interviews with reporters, though Bryant said he would dine with the 21-year-old at a restaurant later Sunday night, an indication that Bynum wasn't gloomily sitting around a hotel room as he awaited his near future.

"I'm making sure he has special accommodations to get there with us and watch the [Super Bowl] with us," said Bryant, who arranged for private transportation for Bynum."

Altchek is on the Mets medical staff as well. He performed surgery on Mariano Rivera recently which had Yankee fans worried.

Maybe the Lakers want to release the results along with the decided course of action and that's why there's a delay?

The Lakers just updated their website with the preview for tonight's match-up.

Doesn't Bynum's doctor know that Andrew is a superstar athlete who should get priority over all the common folk and quicker treatment than some average joe client of his who just has a normal job?

>>>Does his knock-kneed-ness mean that a person without
>>>that wouldn't have been injured as severe?

Not necessarily, but maybe. Some people just get injured
more easily than others.

And I certainly wouldn't put any credence in anything that Mitch Lawrence of the NY Daily News says or writes. His story saying that Bynum is out for a minimum of 6 weeks is clocked at 8:29PM EST on Sunday night. Mike Bresnahan's report that the MRI results would not be reported until Monday was noted at approximately 10:00PM EST on Sunday. I'll go with the later information.

Mitch Lawrence is about as poor an example of a journalist as one could cite. He has no credibility in this town (NYC) whatsoever. He may be right, but it'll be the first time!!

I still think we can win it all without AB, but the lack of toughness and defensive presence is going to be the achilles heel again. The success of our season now depends on Lamar Odem. I can't believe I'm saying it, but that's really what it comes down too. Yippeeee. Time for my third bloody mary this morning.

Posted by: mikefloss

Mike,

I see you were trying to be positive with your first sentence but then you went back to reality. You and I both know they can't win it all without Bynum. You hit it on the head, our Defensive presence really drops off with Bynum out of the middle. And considering out PGs can't keep a paperweight out of the key we would be fools to think LO is going to bring that Defensive presence.

Let's just hope he will be ok. Tk Care.

BD


This long wait is highly suspcious. It's already almost 3p eastern. I'm bracing myself for the worst.

From Bresnahan:

"The Lakers still don't know the extent of the damage in Bynum's right knee, though if has a sprained medial collateral ligament, he would be out six to eight weeks, according to a source who would not comment publicly because all information had not been gathered."

MCL is what it looked like to me as well, b/c the leg went inwards and not backwards. A sprain would definitely be better than a tear.

Again I'll reiterate, I hope we don't get the rhetoric from the Lakers that, if Drew's comeback comes either right before or during the playoffs, that they're going to hesitate bringing him back at the risk of disrupting the flow of the team (which will hopefully be playing well). Bring the kid back. Do whatever is necessary to get him ready. I don't care if his first PT is game 1 of the Finals. The Lakers need him to win it all. Holding him back would be just plain stupid.

Mikefloss,

"The success of our season now depends on Lamar Odem. I can't believe I'm saying it, but that's really what it comes down too. Yippeeee. Time for my third bloody mary this morning."

Nah, the guy that'll carry the load as always will be #24. It'll be that much harder without Bynum, but I'm confident the last thing on Kobe's mind is "omg, there goes our championship hopes". Last time around he led us to the finals without Bynum, if he has to do it again (hopefully not, hopefully I'll wake up from this nightmare and Bynum will be back on the court soon) I'm sure he's one thought is "how do i ensure we do not settle for 2nd place again"

Speaking of #24, everytime I see that picture I wanna smack kobe till he's black and blue ... I dont care that it was an accident, like wtf, Bynum has to go through rehab and all that crap again ... argh, seriously I hate kobe for hurting Bynum, I really do... it's like having a hot girlfriend that totals your new car ... you cant break up with her cuz she's so hott but @ d same time you cant help but be disgusted everytime you see the car wreck

And Boom goes the Bynumite-sorry couldn't resist


-get well Bynum!!!!

Taliq: "but I'm confident the last thing on Kobe's mind is "omg, there goes our championship hopes". "

Actually, I think that's exactly one of the thoughts that definitely went through his mind, at least right when it happened.

I may have to take a 3 hour drive into NYC if I don't hear from anyone on AB's status today. I've gotten nothing done at work waiting on word from the docs or Phil, or anyone.

Apologies for this prayer coming in late...life is CRAZY right now - rarely do I have time to post at The Blog anymore.

LET US PRAY

Dear Lord, You are a HEALER. You have shown Laker Nation that You are a HEALER by restoring Andrew's knee injury from last season. You showed us that You are a HEALER by bringing Trevor Ariza back on the court to wreck shop over the entire NBA. You showed us that You are a HEALER by allowing Kobe to experience torn ligaments and dislocated fingers - and You enabled him to play through the pain of those injuries to lead us to the place where we stand today.

You are a HEALER. We know You are a HEALER. And we ask You reveal Yourself as a HEALER once again.

Heal Andrew's knee, Lord. As You can see, the pundits have already plotted Laker Nation's demise - declaring our championship hopes to be utterly destroyed. But YOU have the final say. And we ask You to hear our prayers and to heal Andrew's knee. I trust that Your healing process has already begun by the reports that he was able to walk on his knee at the close of Saturday's game. I trust that, despite our fears and impatience, that the report will not be devastating or hope-dashing.

We trust You to heal. We hope that You will allow this to be a short healing process, as You have protected Andrew from major damage. We believe that You will have him back on the court ASAP, continuing to build upon his game and proving himself to be the great center we all know that he can be.

We ask You to bind the hands and mouth of the evil one. Protect Andrew's (and our) mind from thoughts of doom and gloom. May he be MENTALLY ready to play as well as PHYSICALLY ready to play when he returns to the court this season. May he ward off evil thoughts and shake off wolves in sheep's clothing who may fill his head with doubt, confusion and uncertainty. May he return this season to finish the work that he started.

We believe You for healing. We thank You for answered prayer and we thank You for being and Great, Faithful & Awesome God who hears our prayers!

AMEN!

***
START CHRIS MIHM & MAINTAIN BENCH MOB - BANDWAGION **
****
(01) JON K - OWNER - I'm on the "Start Chris Mihm" bandwagon. Keep
the Bench Mob intact
(02) MAMBA24 - Long time fan. Chris you have been missed
(03) BOZZ - I'm on that start Mihm bandwagon. I like Lamar with the second
unit and Chris is still an NBA level starter. He just needs the reps.
Start Mihm and maintain the bench mob.
(04) MRBARNEY DANGLES – START MIHM Even better....COME BACK SOON DREW
(05) DAVE M. - I'd join the Mihm bandwagon... maybe short starter
minutes (like Vlad or Luke, haha).
(06) PIG MILLER - Start Mihm and maintain the bench mob.
(07) JUSTANOTHERMAMBAFAN - Mihm (with a little more burn) will be great
He was our starting center in the not-too-distant past and did quite well
as I recall. He'd be a starter on another team...
(8) LONGTIMELAKERLOVER - Put me on the start Mihm bandwagon
(09) EDWIN GUECO - I trust Mihm he used to average 10 pts a game and 10 rebounds

BD,

"I see you were trying to be positive with your first sentence but then you went back to reality. You and I both know they can't win it all without Bynum"

Guess you've been drinking bloody mary's too. Last time I checked Kobe still plays for this team. Not only will we win it all, but I expect the team to give us something to feel good about by running the table through all-star weekend.

Having said all that, I still dont want that to be the case. I want Bynum back, I want him as our starting center ... Argh someone's gotta take the blame for this ... pfunk36 I'm blaming kobe but I'd love to see a post on how this is all luke or pj's fault ...

This is bad

Go Lakers

*
*STICK TO THE PLAN – WE CAN WIN WITH WHAT WE GOT - BANDWAGON
*
(01) MAMBA24 - DRIVER - No need for panic just consider this a little rest for
the Beast so he'll be Fresh to Close this thing out.

Waiting is indeed the hardest part. Patience is a virtue... of which we in Lakerville have none. LOL! I am hoping and praying that it is just a minor sprain that will keep AB out for 4 weeks at the most.

Some thoughts on this unsettling morning:
1. They'll have their hands full for the Celts and Cavs games. I hope they win or at least keep the score close if they lose.
2. If they do drop those 2 games, the Celts and Cavs wouldn't gain a psychological advantage knowing that AB was out.
3. Drew's hard work will pay off as his knees were strengthened with his exercises post surgery. This probably helped him avoid a more serious injury.

I'm trying my darndest to chill. It's mid-afternoon now in NY. Can that doctor be any slower???!

"The success of our season now depends on Lamar Odem. I can't believe I'm saying it,
but that's really what it comes down too. Yippeeee. Time for my third bloody mary this
morning." Posted by: Taliq | February 02, 2009 at 11:37 AM

ROFLMAO!! SHERIFF tell the truth who paid you off to say that! hahahahha.
Next you'll be telling me that Lamar knows how to win 'THE CHICAGO WAY"
hahhhahhahaa STOP IT SHERIFF! STOP IT RIGHT NOW! I love Lamar
but the sucess of our season rests on 9Rings & Kobe

AMEN! BannerHolder

I've prayed more for AB than I've prayed for myself in the last 10 years. I know it's sad but true.

Trade LO for Me, Kwame Brown.. I dont mind starting for yall...

AMEN!
THANK GOD FOR THE BANNER HOLDER

AMEN!
THANK GOD FOR THE BANNER HOLDER


Last year's recoup time had to be influenced by the pending contract. 50 mil has a tendency to influence timetables.

Meanwhile, it's 3PM EST, but who's counting?

unfortunately just got word from a friend who covers the lakers that it's a torn MCL, out 8-12 weeks.

My day is officially ruined.

BYNUM OUT 8-12 WEEKS.

ESPN Just reported it.

Damn.

Hopefully we have a first-round patsy and get Bynum back in full stride for the Western Conference Finals at least.

ESPN just reported Bynum will be out 8-12 weeks with a torn MCL. So sad.

ESPNews is reporting it: 8-12 weeks. It is what it is and it sucks.

PLease add me to the Start Mihm Bandy..

Kobesbad

Chris Bosh for LO. 8-12. Fudge... MCL

Lets just hope he comes back early like Farmar did..

Mamba24,

[ROFLMAO!! SHERIFF tell the truth who paid you off to say that! hahahahha.
Next you'll be telling me that Lamar knows how to win 'THE CHICAGO WAY"
hahhhahhahaa STOP IT SHERIFF! STOP IT RIGHT NOW! I love Lamar
but the sucess of our season rests on 9Rings & Kobe]

Nah check my post again ... you should know better than that, you gave me this badge for 1 reason only ... and that's cuz I've always seen the lakers success and kobe's success as being one and the same ... He's our leader and that's why we'll still have that parade this year

Im trippin...

This waiting game is exhausting... the best thing is to think positive, and if everyone else does, I think I might have enough pixie dust that can go with it for one more magic...
THERE! jjust a hyperextension! he'll be back in three weeks!

Yep 8-12 weeks.

Damn MCL

-Kobeblitz

Sean - thanks for your informative post.

Urgh, just heard the espn news.

lakers_sth - damn, you called it yesterday... why? why?? arghhhhh!!!

Pig - get crackin' on that trade you referenced, last thread.

Bannerholder... thanks for the awesome prayer. Jordan healed faster than expected, maybe Bynum will too (like you said, Rafa).

Jon - dit da jow pronto please... so Bynum CAN heal faster.

Mamba24 - words of wisdom please, Laker nation''s hurting right now.

Laker Tom - where are you???!!!

Charles, your mission, should you decide to accept it. Bullet train to that other place up there... snag Bosh, return pronto. Thanks.

It's 3:30 in NEW YORK, that's the afternoon, not the morning, we should have heard something by now, why are they dragging this out ?????????????

Maybe a Grade III MCL Tear -- Now, let's move on and continue with the goal in hand....

Lakers_sth,
That would be my interpretation of what the staff said.

Some people are just more prone to injury than others,, due to physical issues. Bill Walton or Sam Bowie, for instance.

okay this is a devastating loss and NO ONE on this Laker Team (be quiet Kwa-may lovers) can replace Bynum's presence.

That being said we have to hope for the best for Bynum. I won't say it's good at all but at the very least it's something more known (i.e. Ligaments). Last year's was the bone came out of it's place temporarily before popping back in and created bone spurts and put rough edges on his knee and that made his recovery more slower than expected.

We have to pray and hope (include me on prayers for Bynum) his knee recovers sooner than the minimum like Farmar's case.

At this moment the aim should be lowered to at least Number One seed in the Western Conference. It was already hard to get homecourt advantage already with Boston and Cleveland but with Bynum out that is highly unlikely though certainly not impossible. Out of the 8 other Western Conference opponents:

1-Game @ San Antonio
1 Game New Orleans
2 Games (here and @) Denver
2 Games @ Portland
2 games (@ and here) Houston
1 Game Dallas
2 games (here and @) Phoenix
3 games (1 home 2 away) Utah

Bynum needs to be recovered fully so we'll need to fend off the other teams until he recovers. HOPEFULLY there are no complications and with him back if we don't have home court advantage in the finals Bynum's return could help a bit more than last year. The Finals sch is 2-3-2 so even if we don't get home court just have to sweep the 3 games back in LA to take charge of the series and steal one in the opposite court (ala Miami 2006) (it was very doable last year barring the Game 4 collapse).

At this moment though our thoughts and prayers to Bynum (and Laker fans don't blame Kobe! I mean if it was Bynum who crashed into Kobe's knee and he was the one who got injured it, would you hate Bynum then??)

To a speedy and complete recovery to Bynum

-Kobeblitz

The Celtic's might really be luckiest team in the NBA, TWO years in a row that they will face us without our PRIMARY low post weapon,imagine the 80"s teams without Kareem, or the 70's teams without Chamberland, last 5 games, Bynum was averaging 26.5 points, 13.5 rebounds and 3.77 blocks with .678 shooting percentage.

What is this MORE PRONE TO INJURY BS, I don't care who you are, if someone comes jumping into you and hits your knee from the front, it's going to mess your knee up, the human body does not bend that way, if it was Bynum that had been driving and Kobe standing there, Kobe would be out for 8-12 weeks, which would have been worse.


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