Luke Walton update, and Sunday's video leftovers
We'll have more from today's practice, but in the meantime, here's the official word on forward Luke Walton from El Segundo:
Lakers forward Luke Walton was examined today by Dr. Ken Jung, a foot specialist with the Kerlan-Jobe Orthopaedic Group. Dr. Jung confirmed that Walton is suffering from sesamoiditis (right foot).
Walton will wear a protective boot on his foot for a week and will also begin non-weight bearing rehabilitation exercises in a pool starting today. He is expected to be out a minimum of two weeks.
And while you're taking all that in, click below for the rest of the postgame video from Sunday night's 100-86 win over Portland.
Phil Jackson shutting down BK's inquiry as to why Trevor Ariza got the start over Vlad Rad in Luke Walton's absence. Ironically, if he had gotten a vote, Ariza would have swapped spots with Half Pipe. As for Phil's secrecy, who knows? Maybe it was simply a lineup preference and he didn't want offer an explanation that might come off like Vlad was in some variety of "doghouse," since the two have recently discussed the importance of remaining positive and ready. He's tried to avoid creating situations where Vlad is put in a situation where he'd need to discuss the matter, period. Maybe PJ didn't think an explanation was necessary. Maybe there is in fact an issue between them (and if that's the case, I definitely understand why he didn't want to talk about it). Or maybe he was just defensive about his decision being questioned. In any event, he's not the first coach to decline explanation into his thought process, nor will he be the last.
Phil Jackson, on Andrew Bynum's performance against Greg Oden, which included some improvisational fronting and a better second half. And no, I haven't the faintest clue who was apparently playing the xylophone in the background.
Kobe Bryant talks some Philadelphia Eagles football after their 26-14 NFC wild card win over the Minnesota Vikings. The Mamba loves him some Iggles, as well as the chance to mock teammate Lamar Odom about next week's matchup against the New York Giants. According to Bryant, the New York native may talk himself up as a big fan of the Blue, but in reality, the guy roots for a bunch of teams, some even outside the Apple. "He flops more than Sasha," laughed Bryant.
Ah, you gotta love smack. For what it's worth, I've talked a lot of sports shop with LO over the years and like Kobe says, he seems to literally root for them all. I get the impression he's a Yankee fan first, but he seems to like the Mets, too. I know he digs the Giants, but Kobe's claims of Jets love aren't hard to buy. Having said that, I've never personally heard him root for any squad not representing a New York area code. Who know what goes on behind closed doors, but it's hard for me to picture LO rooting on the Falcons, as Kobe accused him of doing. Bottom line, I'd love to be in a room with those two as during next week's NFC East playoff showdown. Some rather creative insults are guaranteed to get tossed around.
AK



Letting Vlad come off the bench in the first game following Walton's injury puts less pressure on him.
Posted by: exhelodrvr | January 05, 2009 at 03:57 PM
There will be peace in the blog for the next two weeks.
Posted by: Edwin Gueco | January 05, 2009 at 04:08 PM
You need a knife to open an oysters mouth
You need a fee to open an attorney's mouth
and sadly,
You need a subpoena to probe Phil Jackson's mind.
Posted by: Edwin Gueco | January 05, 2009 at 04:14 PM
Dr. Ken Jung? That's a name I like!
Sounds like he might recognize the value of Dit Da Jow!
Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.
GO LAKERS!
Posted by: Jon K. | January 05, 2009 at 04:17 PM
Agreed, Ex though Vlad might not get the same looks as he did before playing with the 2nd unit. (Like Derek back in 2003-2004 playing backup PG). Vlad back in 2006-2007 is what I would say though he did have a broken hand back then.
"He's not just going to "simply get over it."
The root of the problem begins with our coaching staff's communication issues with Andrew Bynum and it ends with our coaching staff's communication with Andrew Bynum."
The Root of the problems begins with Andrew. He has a job and his primary job is simple: Rebounding, Blocks, and Defense and bring energy along with so he can execute them 100% and the offense will come.
Now is Bynum executing 75% he is. He has games where he is really solid (Boston Game) and ones where is flat out where is he? (Utah).
His energy is inconsistent with is skill. He has the skill doesn't have the energy. Why? Some bloggers think its because of his knee, some think he is overrated (I don't think it goes that far), some think it's a mental thing about his knee. My guess is that he is not getting the same open looks as last year. True but does that mean not giving effort on the defensive end? He shows he could when he kept fronting Oden and denying the post pass. Other times he looks lost. Maybe not be it but what his play suggest it could be the inconsistent energy with his skill.
If it is because of the mental fear, he should flat out get over it. The coaching staff are not his parents nor are we bloggers (Hobbit). It's up to him to overcome the mental block and bring effort and energy at a *consistent* rate be there for one important game and not at another game which is just as important.
If it is (I doubt it is), then he should stop acting a like a baby and be scared of re-injuring the knee and start becoming like a man and being the active rebounder he was last year.
-blitz
Posted by: kobeblitz | January 05, 2009 at 04:18 PM
CRAB DRIBBLE-GATE
ESPN and the Wizards are clowning LeBron about this.
http://tinyurl.com/8cdo5z
Before you check the video to count his steps, look at how he poses after getting the and1 on the jumper over Caron. He crouches down and poses... like a crab! I'm surprised he didn't make pinching motions with his hands like they were claws. Since Kobe has the mamba, perhaps LeBron is looking for his own animal.
Posted by: lakers_sth | January 05, 2009 at 04:23 PM
I wonder what the hell Rad Vlad did?
Maybe Phil caught him skateboarding down a steep hill in El Segundo or something like that.
He was probably skateboarding down West Pine Avenue, running through stop signs and then slammed into the side of Phil's Porsche.
"VLADE!"
Ergo, Rad Vlad's one way trip to Phil Jackson's doghouse.
What do we play for? RINGS!!!!
Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.
GO LAKERS!
Posted by: Jon K. | January 05, 2009 at 04:27 PM
Pretty much Jon K. it's simple.
A comparison of Bynum and Trevor Ariza:
More skilled: Andrew Bynum
More Talent: Andrew Bynum
More Athletic: Trevor Ariza
Now why is Trevor more at the end of games than Bynum is:
More energetic.
More than willing to hustle and play defense (Danny Granger)
Never willing to take one possession off at a time.
Always keeps focus though not perfect.
Bynum may have some of those too but it is not *enough* to merit him to be at end of games more. Pau at Center and Lamar at PF is being used more since while it is not as much better post defense it's still better defense overall. Why? Since Lamar is off the bench he's more than willing to get as much minutes as possible. All Bynum does is sit there at times and doesn't use energy all the time (note not all the time that doesn't mean he has energy).
When Bynum is playing with energy and hustle (Boston game) the defense is way much better than Pau at C and LO at PF. But that is a big *IF*.
Bynum was way load more potential than Trevor but unlike him Trevor is willing to take very possession seriously while Bynum is more flashes at times.
lakers_sth,
LBJ has been travelling a ton of times just GINOBILI! I was very surprised it was called for once hehe.
-blitz
Posted by: kobeblitz | January 05, 2009 at 04:27 PM
Can someone please verify that LO, KB, AB, and PG have never been on the court together.
I personally can't remember one instance.
And WHY?
Why not at least experiment with this?
Posted by: Long Live Chick | January 05, 2009 at 04:29 PM
"SASHA?????? SF??????????"
Faith meant Kobe at Small Forward (which he likes because it's more offense for him) and Sasha at SG. Only problem with that is that there is no real backup guard behind Sasha.
And don't call her nuts :p.
-blitz
Posted by: kobeblitz | January 05, 2009 at 04:30 PM
lakers_sth,
I guess a crab dribble is a four step travel: Two big steps, one small hesitation half-step, followed by one big step.
Crab dribble.
Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.
GO LAKERS!
Posted by: Jon K. | January 05, 2009 at 04:33 PM
kobeblitz,
I know. I know. I know.
I'm just communicating the Bio-Chrono, bro.
It's not about whether or not it's best to put Andrew Bynum in at the end of the fourth quarter. It's a matter of whether or not Andrew Bynum UNDERSTANDS why he's not in during the end of the fourth quarter and HOW it's best for the team without being a statement against his ability to play.
That's all. Bynum has a craving to understand things. When he doesn't understand things in detail (DETAIL! DO YOU HEAR ME? DETAIL!), he gets confused. When he gets confused, he loses confidence.
It's that simple.
With Bynum, it's all about communication.
Responding to his inquiries with a "Because I said so!" response is totally counter-productive (for him).
Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.
GO LAKERS!
Posted by: Jon K. | January 05, 2009 at 04:38 PM
NEWSFLASH:
Luke Walton to miss at least 2 weeks with an injury that he isn't quite sure of it's origin
http://tinyurl.com/786f2a
CONCLUSION:
God is a Laker fan!!
Posted by: pfunk36 | January 05, 2009 at 04:53 PM
Lebron's "Crab dribble"
Lebron great player but not very good at spelling, He wanted to say he did a "Crap dribble" and that is what the ref saw!!
Aaaaaaarrhhh!!
Angry_Laker
Posted by: Angry_Laker | January 05, 2009 at 04:55 PM
Pau Gasol, arguably, has played better than Kobe Bryant this year.
Posted by: troy | January 05, 2009 at 04:56 PM
Tim,
>>>>>It's time to extend our winning streak further.
You are absolutely correct, Tim. We have now have won 6-straight games and have 14 games left this month, 8 at home and 6 away. We need to win out the month and head into February with a 41-5 record and a 20-game win streak. That would top the Celtics 19-game win streak and include a road win over the Cavs. And you know what, we are good enough to just go out and do that. I think this team is primed right now for a long streak.
And I would love to measure the blog-sync-think once we do that but of course we both know it would still be less than 100%. LOL. Could there really be Lakers fans who would be dissatisfied with the Lakers with a 41-5 record and a 20-game win streak? Only on the Lakers Blog. LOL. As always, JMNSHBO!
Tom
Posted by: LakerTom | January 05, 2009 at 04:58 PM
Long Live Chick,
I think every Lakers fan would like to see a Fisher-Bryant-Odom-Gasol-Bynum line-up on the court.
In part, because we never have.
Why not give it a try? Seriously.
What do we play for? RINGS!!!!!
Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.
GO LAKERS!
Posted by: Jon K. | January 05, 2009 at 05:00 PM
Jon K
What's to understand?
Phil thinks the 5 he has on the floor at the end of a game are the best 5 for that game. If Andrew has confidence in himself, he probably wouldn't agree with the reasons anyway.
It's like asking a girl why she wants to break up, or so I'm told.
Posted by: VMan | January 05, 2009 at 05:01 PM
Fair enough Jon K though Bynum should get himself out of his mental block not having other people do it for him.
As always though:
Clippers suck today...Clippers will suck tomorrow...Clippers will always suck forever Jon K.
(Al Thorton Goaltending Allen Iverson hehe thanks a bunch I have no love for the Pistons but heck Iverson is on my fantasy team so heck it was sweet, no Pig i meant the one where I paid to play in, that place you would get owned and lose $75)
The saddest part though is pfunk36 is actually gloating that Luke is injured. I don't think anyone really "gloated" when even Kwa-may Brown went down (Mike T. was probably crying). Shows how much pfunk36 is so much like Mike T.
I would willing to bet Jon K's wallet though that pfunk36 you would think Larry Bird isn't a great basketball too huh?
And I disagree Troy,
Pau was played well but not the best out of the Lakers. Who was the one who was setting up Pau during the Celtics game? KB24.
-blitz
Posted by: kobeblitz | January 05, 2009 at 05:03 PM
Jon K,
Is Dit Da Jow more effective than arnica? Have you compared?
Anna
Posted by: Anna in Bondi | January 05, 2009 at 05:04 PM
well one thing bears truth..no matter what team u supposedly root for..deep down within the inner bowels of your soul...your really a Raiders fan..
Go Raiders
Go Lakers
Posted by: lakeraholic | January 05, 2009 at 05:05 PM
Troy Troy Troy Troy!!!!!
Arguably that is the stupidest statement I have heard in a long while!!!
Aaaaaaarrhhh!!
Angry_Laker
Posted by: Angry_Laker | January 05, 2009 at 05:11 PM
AK
I was more than conten with the reply phil jax gave you..and I also dont understand why you need to further explain the simplicities of a coach who doesn't wish give out any more info than needed.. I suppose it makes for great bloggin but I've given the Pathagorian more thought than crying about some conspiracy theory around luke...Trevor and Rad. I don't blame you AK..but rest assure that when phil gave you the "None of your buisness" type answer..atleast one blogger (me) didn't give it much thought soon after.
Comedy is easy
Journalism is hard (i suppose)
Posted by: lakeraholic | January 05, 2009 at 05:18 PM
I find it somewhat ironic that AB shows the same aggravating trait that his mentor, Kareem, was so often accused of...on-court apathy.
Posted by: Laker Kev | January 05, 2009 at 05:24 PM
Lakeraholic,
"AK, I was more than conten with the reply phil jax gave you..and I also dont understand why you need to further explain the simplicities of a coach who doesn't wish give out any more info than needed.. I suppose it makes for great bloggin but I've given the Pathagorian more thought than crying about some conspiracy theory around luke...Trevor and Rad. I don't blame you AK..but rest assure that when phil gave you the "None of your buisness" type answer..atleast one blogger (me) didn't give it much thought soon after.
Comedy is easy Journalism is hard (i suppose)."
I hear ya and I agree that to some degree, Phil really doesn't need to explain anything (like I thought could have been his thought behind the response). It's nice and often clarifying when he does, but the obligation isn't there, at least not in EVERY instance. And believe me when I say, he's hardly the only coach capable of being cryptic.
But most readers found the response curious, so I thought it was only natural to weigh in.
For what it's worth, I've done both comedy and journalism. Comedy is actually harder, in my opinion.
AK
Posted by: kambrothers | January 05, 2009 at 05:27 PM
lakeraholic you are right!!!
Comedy is easy
Journalism is hard
You could put together a list of great Comedians, but could you put together a list of great Journalists!!!
Aaaaaaarrhhh!!
Angry_Laker
Posted by: Angry_Laker | January 05, 2009 at 05:33 PM
Blitz,
you wrote: You want to complain about my literacy? Try yours. The Lakers scheme does not want to funnel into the paint. When in the paint you get options to pass or shoot. No coach in their minds would want anyone in the paint. The scheme is the the BIG MAN. Obviously you read wrong and since you will most likely cry about "oh but that's what I read" please link the article because you funnel players into the paint, it's good as giving them a score. By funneling into a big man who is willing to step out the penetration stops and most times the penetrator is sealed off by the big man, his primary defender and the de facto 3rd defender of the baseline. No coach wants anyone in the paint.
my response:
Sometime around when we lost to the kings, I posted
the link to the article in the LA times and the direct quote
from Hamelin. Feel free to look for it.
re: penetration. I gave you my definition for the word.
Then I backed it up. boxscore for Lakers/Boston gm. 1
shows Kobe at 9/26 with 6 freethrows. Those stats
are indicative of kobe taking jump shots not going to
the rim. which is what I said. that's why I gave *my*
definition of penetration. You may call it by a different
name. You're basketball education is higher than
mine. Feel better?
re: not posting as much. You're sorta right and sorta
wrong. I've been posting here on a regular bases for a
few years now. I'd like to think that that makes me a non-
troll, but *your* definition is probably different than mine.
I've slowed down posting in recent weeks for a couple
of reasons.
1. I figured out that the Lakers championship rests upon
the shoulders of Bynum and Odom. [ Sad but true. ]
The reasons are:
A. Pau, Kobe, Fish will be solid to spectacular. Also
consistent.
B. Our "rough" spells this season have all involved
games where Bynum got into early foul trouble.
C. b/n Ariza, Kobe & Sasha we have enough defense
at the SF to contend with anyone.
D. b/n Kobe, Fisher & Sasha we have enough defense
& offense to contend with anyone at SG
E. Pau is the best PF we have. He's also the second
biggest offensive threat we have. He's also the
best defensive PF we have. If Bynum plays
reasonably well, Pau gets to play PF and we win.
Bynum, at the C, alters more shots than Pau. He's
bigger. etc.
F. In Lamar *shows up*, Pau can play C and Lamar can
play PF and we're good enough to beat 99% of the
teams. Pau is not as effective against bigger C's.
[ Oddly enough, this ties into my "horror" of mike T
being right. ]
2. The Lakers have the best record in the NBA. They're
beating EVERYONE! Screams about our pg situation
are short-sighted and foolish at this point in the season.
Ripping on various *young* Lakers for having a 2 to 4
game shooting slump doesn't serve any purpose. I've
seen others try to be a voice of reason and it hasn't
worked very well.
This is my *smallie* pt. of view.
IF AND ONLY IF Lamar & Bynum play well, the Lakers
will win the championship this year. [ barring injuries. ]
It's $$ in the bank. I only wish there were some way
to make a bet with those caveats.
If Bynum plays well, the Lakers will STILL WIN THE
CHAMPIONSHIP! That $$ is still in the bank. Earning
a paltry interest, I'm sorry to say.
If Bynum does not play well, the Lakers will go to the
finals. They may lose because we will be depending
on the famous Mr. Inconsistent. [ note: this is true
because PJ has a 3 man rotation at C/PF, but
then you know this. Stats are your late night reading
material. ]
With those being my core beliefs on this Lakers season,
do you see a reason for me to post a lot anymore?
re: smallie. Come on sport. You can do better than that.
Dig deep. Crack open a dictionary. Better yet, get
medieval and go for the Thesarus. You can be more
creative with your insults. The whole blog is waiting to
see your insult creativity. John Hollinger is waiting to
create some stats for you. Go blitz! Go! BTW, how are
dancer and vixen doing? Sorry. Did I get you confused
with a cold weather food source?
Posted by: hobbitmage | January 05, 2009 at 05:36 PM
blitz,
We all know you have an excellent basketball IQ, a penchant for stats and the Bulls, and no hesitation at stating your opinion with respect to anything basketball. However, your personal injury history as a point guard doesn’t really give you any special ability to “know” that Andrew Bynum does “not” have any problem with his knee.
Knee injuries to big men are often far more complicated than to smaller players because of the stresses of size, even if your knee injury “was” a subluxation of the knee cap, which I assume it was not. The issue here is that you again state and defend your opinion as if it were a fact. It is not. It is just one blogger’s opinion, with which some of us disagree.
The fact in this situation is that nobody – not the Lakers, Andrew Bynum himself, or even the great blitz – know exactly why Drew is not playing at the level he was playing at earlier in the year or much less as the Beast he was the month before being injured last year. Proclaiming that his injury has nothing to do with Drew’s current performance seems naïve since that was the major event that has precipitated the problem.
Whether it is post-injury fear or loss of confidence, Drew does not have the same level of physicality on the court and anybody who saw him play last year can clearly see that. He does not jump as high or as quickly and he does not handle low passes well that he used to convert. Maybe it is all mental and Drew just has to get over it but, as you should well know with your All-Star athletic background, that is where the game is really played. Call it semantics but it sure looks like Drew has NOT fully recovered from his injury.
Once again, you seem to feel that Drew should be satisfied to defend and rebound, after all, as you point out, Ben Wallace & Marcus Camby don’t demand touches. Well, neither one of those guys has anywhere the current or future potential offensive skills that Drew has. Neither of those guys will ever be needed by their team to score down low, maybe in a game where Pau Gasol has a tougher matchup and somebody needs to be tougher.
There is a dangerous complacency with the Lakers soaring and the Celtics sinking that we no longer need the Beast, that the 50% version we have right now will be good enough. But we forget how rugged and physical the play is in the playoffs. We forget that what we really missed in last year’s NBA Finals was Andrew Bynum the Beast, the player who would transform the Lakers from “soft” to “tough.” Other than the few of us who worship “The Making of a Beast” and replay it every day, we forget what a powerful and physically dominating force Andrew was on offense last year. He truly was the Beast.
We have the Mamba, the Cobra, the Spaniard, the Machine, the Zohan, and DFish but maybe, just maybe, what we really need to be sure we win the championship is the Beast. Drew’s dominating play was not a mirage and we need to steadily work to get him back to that level rather than ignoring him like we have been doing. There will come games when Pau, because of his limitations, will not be able to get it done for us inside offensively. We will dearly wish we had the Beast to save us when those games come.
Anyways, as always JMNSHBO and nothing more. 6 in a row on the way to 20 in a row.
Tom
Posted by: LakerTom | January 05, 2009 at 05:46 PM
With feet like his Dad's best we get rid of him as quickly as we can. This guy will be collecting disability checks for the rest of his life.
The handwriting is on the wall with Walton.
NY/Stephon talking buy-out maybe the Lakers should think along those lines. Then he can go play for his favorite team the Celtics along w/Stephon.
Everybody's happy!
BD
Posted by: BD | January 05, 2009 at 05:48 PM
This is funny!!!
WASHINGTON (AP) -- Add LeBron James' "crab dribble" to the lengthy list of talking points in the Cavaliers-Wizards rivalry.
"I'll have to check in my book to see what a 'crab dribble' is. I'm not quite sure," Washington interim coach Ed Tapscott said with a smile Monday. "I do know that we don't seem to get away with very many of them, whatever they are."
James and the rest of the Cavaliers were given Monday off by coach Mike Brown, so the world will have to wait for more thoughts from them as to whether The Chosen One did, indeed, travel a day earlier when driving for a potential tying basket in the closing seconds of Cleveland's 80-77 loss at Washington.
Referee Bill Spooner waved off the play and called the violation. Asked to clarify his ruling, Spooner wrote in an e-mail to a pool reporter: "Three steps on the move to the basket. Basic travel call."
The NBA did not immediately respond to a request from The Associated Press to comment on whether Spooner made the correct call.
On Sunday, James said it was a "bad call" and that "they need to look at it and they need to understand that's not a travel."
In giving his take on what happened, James said: "I watched it again, and I took a 'crab dribble,' which is a hesitation dribble, and then two steps."
Asked Monday if he knows what a "crab dribble" is, Wizards All-Star forward Antawn Jamison said, "I know what a traveling is. ... I think we all know what traveling is."
Washington's other All-Star forward, Caron Butler, gave a similar answer.
"'Crab dribble' is when you, uh, travel," Butler said. "That's the hottest thing on the market right now."
Turning to a more serious explanation, Butler said he thought James switched his pivot foot.
"I couldn't do it in AAU, I couldn't do it in college," Butler said, "and obviously I can't do it now."
Posted by: lakeraholic | January 05, 2009 at 05:53 PM
For what it's worth, I've done both comedy and journalism. Comedy is actually harder, in my opinion.
AK
Posted by: kambrothers | January 05, 2009 at 05:27 PM
awww neck naw!!! You did comedy too?
lol..I can see you getting Gonged from Late night at the appolo..then sadly turning to BK saying "oh well..theres always journalism"!!!!
haha that's so funny it practically writes itself....
Posted by: lakeraholic | January 05, 2009 at 05:58 PM
hobbit: "Sometime around when we lost to the kings, I posted the link to the article in the LA times and the direct quote from Hamelin. Feel free to look for it."
Actually, when you made this claim, I posted a link to a video where (starting at 1:50) Hamblen talks about how they're NOT supposed to be funneling to the paint. They're supposed to force sideline and baseline. This was right before the game against Sac at Staples.
Here it is:
http://tinyurl.com/97oy25
Maybe you were confused that he was saying what they're supposed to do instead of what not to do or the LATimes misquoted him.
Posted by: lakers_sth | January 05, 2009 at 06:03 PM
ex,
>>>>>Last night's game answered anything,
Yes, it didn’t.
Tom
Posted by: LakerTom | January 05, 2009 at 06:06 PM
lakeraholic you are right!!!
Comedy is easy
Journalism is hard
You could put together a list of great Comedians, but could you put together a list of great Journalists!!!
Aaaaaaarrhhh!!
Angry_Laker
Posted by: Angry_Laker | January 05, 2009 at 05:33 PM
cool beans...that's the second time I've been right this year..haha I've already reached my total from last year
oh and theres currently 3 journalist on my Block who writes for the Mississippi press and I tell you if a accident happened 1 of the 3 will report King Slogmather from the planet Gorignak was on the scene drunk on grog.
Journalism?..Heck to the naw!
But funny None the less....
Posted by: lakeraholic | January 05, 2009 at 06:07 PM
Lakeraholic,
Actually, I never did stand up (that would be terrifying). I worked for years, however, in an improv troupe where we'd act out and parody movies. We ultimately ended up much more of a critical success than financial (although we did do a couple of studio showcases and had a small deal that went absolutely nowhere), but it was a lot of fun.
That time also helped me quite a bit with this job. Successful improv requires you to be listening carefully at all times and remain aware of how scenes are develop (as opposed to how you anticipated their build ahead of time). It also teaches you to seek an objective, but maintain a willingness to work with what's in front of you to get it, as opposed to trying to force what obviously isn't working. Interviewing, in my opinion, requires a similar mindset, and I try to incorporate that into my approach.
AK
Posted by: kambrothers | January 05, 2009 at 06:10 PM
This from Hoopsworld (poor, poor Celtics):
"Jess in Los Angeles, CA:
Who can the Lakers trade for that would put them over the top? I know their winning but there not play at a high a enough level where there just going to beat everyone.
Bill Ingram:
They just beat Boston . . .and wounded them emotionally to the point that they've lost 3 times since. Gerald Wallace would certainly look niece in gold . . ."
A little crack in the morter. Rot in the wood.
Wes
Posted by: wesjoenixon | January 05, 2009 at 06:17 PM
See Hobbit loves to protect the little boys away from the big bad blitz anyways:
"I posted the link to the article in the LA times and the direct quote from Hamelin. Feel free to look for it".
1) Link it or too lazy? 2) Try this one
"So, instead of doing things where it allows us to load up and keep them to the sideline and baseline, they're trying to bring a lot more action to the middle of the floor and trying to do a lot of stuff in transition where we can't get bodies set and people in the position that we want them to be in."
Note the part hat says "sideline and baseline". They don't mean "paint". Derek Fisher confirmed that.
http://tinyurl.com/5pzjwk
"penetration. I gave you my definition for the word."
Yeah and that's why tons of fans are so wrong when they keep bagging on Kobe about shooting jumpers. The Celtics are always will make the shots close to the paint. That's why Kobe went for jumpers albiet he is letting the offense come to him even more to be more efficient. Part of the reason Michael Jordan succeeded was that he followed the offense and only penetrated when he could instead of doing it 80% of the time. Otherwise he wouldn't have gotten by the Bad Boy Pistons. Obviously you think penetration is easy and if they clog the lane Kobe will get followed. Try Game 2 of the Finals when he did kept penetrating but there was no fouls.
re: B) Three games where Bynum's foul troubles really cost us. Otherwise the other 2 games (Detroit and Indiana) Bynum wasn't in much foul trouble and we still lost. The fact is simply have to step up when your center gets into foul trouble. That's what happened in Memphis for the rally and the New Orleans game.
C) Lebron James. I understand you have not heard about how well he is doing?
D) Dwyane Wade enough said.
E) No problem there but isn't that always the point?
"Pau is not as effective against bigger C's."
Did anyone tell you that Pau is more Power Forward than Center? Had we even had a decent backup center there would have been a better chance to win the finals (no Ronny doesn't count). Or do you remember Pau dunking on the "physical" Oden or how he held his own against Shaq and yes Dwight Howard (it was Jameer Nelson that helped the Magic back into that game). Pau playing center is fine, simply have to have other players step up.
"They're beating EVERYONE!"
Please. Detroit?? Cleveland yet?? We still have to see about Charlotte though it's most likely wins. Miami?? Orlando?? Still have to go to San Antonio as well not to mention winning at Boston which I personally think is the biggest key to winning a title at all. Otherwise have to win every game to ensure home court advantage.
My advice: Try to lower down the passions. It's perfectly fine to bleed purple and gold but have to also think more realistically no?
"With those being my core beliefs on this Lakers season,
do you see a reason for me to post a lot anymore?"
No unless I criticize against Jordan (without his weak defense and allowing Trevor to guard against point guards when Fish isn't, is helping a ton. Imagine what Steve Blake would have done to Farmar) and calling Trevor overrated. Plus you love it whenver Trevor is playing well and say haha and when he doesn't play well you hide in your hole. See what I mean? You act like if the young Lakers will be All-Stars and they do not deserve criticisms. No one is above the game and that includes Kobe. Oh wait besides Kobe and Pau you seem to say that everyone else besides Lamar Odom deserves no criticism. Yup according to Hobbitmage Jordan Farmar is John Stockton Sasha is Mitch Richmond Trevor Ariza is Scottie Pippen and Andrew Bynum is David Robinson because they are young since they work hard they will be like them. Not. Hey that was a good joke hope you did laugh as well.
No I won't go to insults. That's Mike T's thing.
-blitz
Posted by: kobeblitz | January 05, 2009 at 06:19 PM
Edwin,
>>>>>There will be peace in the blog for the next two weeks.
Who appointed you fortune cookie? JK. Mrs. LakerTom was reading over my shoulder and just started laughing at all the ongoing debates and arguments. Then she brought up her long-held theory that without trolls, the bloggers would devour each other. LMAO. She may be right. She says the proof will be in browsing the blog after the Lakers win their next 20 games to finish January at 41-5 and watching the bloggers tear the team apart. And yes, she does think the Lakers will win out January. After all, she is Mrs. LakerTom.
As always, JM(and Mrs. LakerTom’s)NSHBO!
Tom
Posted by: LakerTom | January 05, 2009 at 06:23 PM
Break out some of the vintage improv video clips AK. That would be fun.
Wes
Posted by: wesjoenixon | January 05, 2009 at 06:29 PM
Improv you say???
Yikes!!! I've been to a few in Dallas and believe me when I say any success doing Improv is a huge step..but none the less im glad you had 'Critical sucess' instead of 'Financial' or else we wouldn't be here conversing about everything from Lebrons crabs to Sesameseeditis of the feet (Luke).
Though I did see a known comedian do Improv many moons ago and trust me when I say he shouldve stuck to stand up. Would have rather watched Ted Turner talk about politics to the youth than stomach that massacre of spontaneous comedy
Posted by: lakeraholic | January 05, 2009 at 06:30 PM
blitz,
You wrote: He keeps thinking "defense wins championships" and ignores ball movement, passing, and other fundamentals that is key to defeating a defense that is good as the Celtics.
my response: hmm ... I'm sorry. I didn't mean to ignore
ball movement, passing and other offensive
fundamentals. Can you name me one team that
has played in the NBA finals, in the last 20 years,
who did not exhibit the afore mentioned offensive
fundamentals on the way to the championship round?
Lakers loss to the Pistons was because of what?
Lakers loss to the Celtics was because of what?
Can you name a recent NBA championship that
wasn't a good defensive team? [outside of miami ]
How was the Mavs defense against Wade in the
finals?
What did Phil say the Lakers need to work on?
What did Kobe say the Lakers need to work on?
http://tinyurl.com/7njwr4
Interesting snippets from the article:
Since the big Y2K disappointment (yeah, worldwide chaos through technological calamity would have been sweet), stellar defensive teams have been absconding with the O'Brien Trophy at an alarming rate. Just last season, the Boston Celtics embraced the jam-the-lane philosophy of new defensive coordinator (and minor celebrity) Tom Thibodeau en route to their first NBA championship in quite awhile.
[ How is Kobe penetrating if Boston is jamming the lane? ]
No, even though coach Doc Rivers had his team work at what passes for a reasonable tempo, his team was at the top in defensive efficiency. They flexed their knees and prevented dribble penetration, they attacked ball screens, they closed-out on shooters with a vigorous sense of urgency (in relative terms) and provided help-side support.
So, if playing exemplary defense worked for Boston — as it has for the San Antonio Spurs, Detroit Pistons and last decade's Chicago Bulls — why in the NBA world do so few teams make that commitment?
Now before you attempt to drag some statistical paradigm into this rant and insist that — by the numbers — NBA teams really do dig in and play D, just find your remote and sit down. After that deep breath, locate an NBA game on one station and a high-level college game occurring at the same time on another channel.
Watch the NBA game for about five minutes, then jump over to the college game for five. Go back and watch the professionals again, then switch back to the student-athletes.
If you didn't notice the disparate intensity in the defense, you probably found a women's college game.
[ I love the quote about finding a women's college game. ]
On the NBA game (unless it's Boston or Cleveland), perimeter on-ball defenders are in full retreat instead of moving side to side (hello, Steve Nash) or just standing up. Cutters are trailed through the lane and close-outs are performed with mediocre gusto.
[ Steve Nash ... I remember him. ball movement. passing.
solid offensive fundamentals. ]
With ball screens remaining popular, more teams are attempting to blitz the ballhandler in Celtic fashion, hoping the trap prevents the passer from even seeing an outlet for a diagonal skip.
[ So does the offensive fundamental of ball movement
win over the trap which prevents the passer from
seeing an outlet for a diagonal skip? ]
The Cs are great on cheating over, rotating early and taking away that immediate pass.
[ Crap. taking away that immediate pass affects ball
movement/passing doesn't it? ]
That's one reason why Mike D'Antoni's offense could — in the hands of great players — win a championship, but his inability to trust more than seven players prohibits him from deploying the kind of defense a seven-seconds-or-less style requires. If D'Antoni would be hired by a major college program and allowed to recruit the players that fit his system, he'd probably add pressure defense to his offensive genius with Final Fours arriving in short order.
[ No! You're telling me that if D'Antoni would have
deployed a defense he could have won
a championship with "7 secs or less"? All he was
missing was .... D-D-Defense? ]
However, you should read the article. Then you can
tell me if I mis-read what he said. The article's name:
"Championships begin and end with defense"
Help me out here. I'm looking for:" ball movement, passing, and other fundamentals " pave the
way to a championship in the title:
"Championships begin and end with defense"
In case you missed it earlier, the link is:
http://tinyurl.com/7njwr4
Posted by: hobbitmage | January 05, 2009 at 06:33 PM
LakerTom,
"your personal injury history as a point guard doesn’t really give you any special ability to “know” that Andrew Bynum does “not” have any problem with his knee."
Thank you LT. LOL
Dude is like the the most stubborn person around. I guess that is why him and Hobbit go at it for weeks. But the idea that somehow playing with a sore knee once in High school gives him the balls to tell AB to "Man Up" is truly laughable.
I'm not sure if AB's problem is mental/knee, or PJ/mindgames, or what, but he is not back to where we want yet. I agree with your call to not give up on him and settle for 75%. We are going to need him in the finals. If AB is playing well, I think we win the finals no problem. If he is still 50% to 75% then we get into more of a "Flip a coin" in who wins the finals.
On a side note....Don't you love the little 12-14 foot jumpshot AB is hitting? I don't want him to shoot too many, but it will make him much harder to guard once he gets straighted out.
Posted by: Eric M. | January 05, 2009 at 06:36 PM
I like not having trolls...and us having a spirited discussion with each other.
At least this way, we talk about things that actually has something to do with the team, and could possibly help lol.
GO Lakers! Go Lakerville!
Posted by: Faith | January 05, 2009 at 06:49 PM
After that lovely Celtic loss to the Knicks, I thought I'd share this:
http://www.theonion.com/content/infograph/paul_pierce
I know it's not mean enough, but I thought it was funny. :)
Posted by: Cactus Berry | January 05, 2009 at 06:50 PM
Laker Tom,
"Proclaiming that his injury has nothing to do with Drew’s current performance seems naïve since that was the major event that has precipitated the problem."
Laker Tom I like you alot make no mistake. That being said if Drew was averaging 6 and 6, then I too would agree the knee might be problematic. But he's averaging the same amount of points but not rebounds. So there is nothing really to be said is "wrong" about the knee otherwise he wouldn't have had good games. I don't know what's wrong probably the Lord above only knows what is wrong. But since he doesn't give an answer at times the best answer is from Bynum himself. He says nothing is wrong about his knee and unless he says otherwise I have to go by his word.
"He does not jump as high or as quickly and he does not handle low passes well that he used to convert."
It's all mental Laker Tom, Kwa-may Brown had the body to dominate. The problem was with his mind. True being high expectations may have crushed his spirit but was him letting those expectations crush him. Similar situation to Bynum. His agent (doing no evil) kept demanding a max contract when Bynum had only 1/2 season of doing anything well and with a raw offensive game. Now he has $13 million which is similar to Pau's contract and simply he's not playing like it. Sure he has his positive things he brings to the Lakers but it's still a toss up in the air (at least to me) to see if Bynum can truly be the franchise player that Kobe is. Kobe had accomplished so much more (and Del Harris was keeping him on the bench) than Bynum had in his rookie year. Can Drew overcome it and be a better player. That answer is emphatically yes and he should not let any injury, no matter how serious (as long as it isn't career ending) mentally hold him to do the right things.
Ben Wallace proved that you don't need to be offensive strong to win championships as he proved in Detroit and Camby if he was much bigger would have been the same except with more offense than Wallace. In the finals we were outmuscled but really? The biggest thing Drew could have used is 1) Stronger post defense and 2) Better rebounding as he proved against the Celtics on Christmas. Remember none of the Bulls championship teams ever had a "physical inside big man". Rodman was great on defense but not an inside guy. Longley was a role player who was a good passer but not an inside guy. Horace Grant was solid and an All Star but never really one to really pound it inside. When I watched him last year he was more active I agree but simply because Kobe was looking for him more. Like I keep saying Drew hasn't responded as well to the 3rd option as Lamar had. He did OK when 2nd option but is too passive as a 3rd. And you don't need a "physical" thing from Bynum, as I showed in my transcript both Pau and Kobe dominated the Celtics despite being labelled as "soft". Did they need to be more physical in defense and getting rebounds? Yes Bynum helped that problem. Did they needed to be more physical to get inside the Vaunted Celtics defense? No. Kobe and Pau played smart basketball, used the triangle offense, and dominated the Celtics with mostly jumpers. The offense is designed with greater emphasis on passing/cutting and the best way to defeat zones (with passing). Zones are designed for two things 1) Stop penetration and 2) Limit big men and it was specifically to contain Shaq back in early 2000's. To defeat a team defense is passing, don't have to be physical on the offensive end.
Sorry Tom but the only beast truly is Kobe Bryant. Sure he already has a nickname but the way he is, no other player on the Laker team describes him. I want Bynum to succeed but he isn't looking like the franchise player. Maybe a very good one close to C-Webb. But banging around the legends like Hakeem, Shaq, and even Moses Malone? Don't count on it. I personally don't have Dwight in that neighborhood even with the way Dwight Howard has been playing. Why should I put Bynum in that area at the time being? If he improves his play then I'll always willing to admit I was wrong and give him credit but he should be doing much more to show he's the "franchise player".
Sorry Tom also but when you have Kobe Bryant and especially Pau Gasol AND 6 other players who would also want to score it's hard to give Bynum enough touches.
My opinion on that.
-blitz
Posted by: kobeblitz | January 05, 2009 at 06:54 PM
Helo,
"Think Robert Horry, or Manu Ginobili, as a couple of examples where it has been very successful."
Ahhhhh yes, the Ginobili card. A true shining example of holding out "One of your best players".
Points:
Ginobili is an offensive player; You want a punch off the bench. Trevor is a defensive and intangible player. Why save that for the second and fourth quarters.
Over the years, Ginobili STARTS often. He is NOT always a bench player.
Robert Horry was never a great player. He hit some big shots, but his playing off the bench is about all he had coming....Especially as he got older.
I AGREE WITH FAITH!! START WITH DEFENSE!!
Posted by: Eric M. | January 05, 2009 at 06:56 PM
Laker Tom is right on - come playoff time The Beast will needed to get rings.
In honor of Luke's injury I re-watched the Celtic game (saved on TIVO). Luke is slow and not real athletic. His shot comes and goes. He is as good a defender as his tools allow - pretty good team defender, vulnerable 1-on1.
So what is he good at? Anyone who still has that game, watch his focus on spacing on offense. He is always in the right place. Sometimes good spacing is a matter of a step or 2 - in postition to recieve a pass, but far enough away that a player doubling on Kobe or Pau can't back to him in time. Spreading the floor in the corner or at the top of the key to provide balance for transitiion defense. Constantly moving, a step left or right or in or out to keep the spacing right.
I think it has helped Kobe emerge from his funk, Luke makes sure the floor is spaced right and Kobe has room to operate, doubling is tougher. If Luke can hit a few shots (big if) he can make the whole Laker offense more efficient.
Phil values such things. That is why Luke gets starts. and I would guess why Space Cadet Radmonovic is in the dog house.
Luke does the little things Rick Fox did, although he is less effective on D, and less likely to go off irrationally, a nice attribute Pretty Boy Fox brought to the floor.
Trevor would do well to watch Luke. If learns from Luke and brings his athleticism as well he could be a monster for the Lakers.
Posted by: Tom Daniels | January 05, 2009 at 07:10 PM
Of all the Laker players, I'm willing to bet that Andrew Bynum is the one with the highest probability of actually reading this blog.
(Do you know, AK and BK, who if any of the Laker players actually read this blog from time to time?)
Frankly, if I was a young NBA player millionaire, I would most probably be spending my time working on my game, my body, driving Ferraris and chasing skirts than reading Internet blogs.
However, it just strikes me from what I've read about Bynum is that he would actually take the time to read this blog.
So perhaps all the posts here about his lack of energy, effort is actually making a difference - see last game vs. Blazers.
Posted by: LakerinBC | January 05, 2009 at 07:14 PM
Eric,
>>>>>Dude is like the most stubborn person around. I guess that is why him
>>>>>and Hobbit go at it for weeks. But the idea that somehow playing with a sore
>>>>>knee once in High school gives him the balls to tell AB to "Man Up" is truly
>>>>>laughable.
Funny, how we could never agree on anything about politics but seem to agree with everything about the Lakers. LOL. The great blitz is a blogger extraordinaire whom I love but just needs to tone down his rhetoric and realize his opinions are not fact. In fact, didn’t you say almost the same thing to me before? LOL. But blitz is cool and a good sport. He just needs to be smacked down a notch or two when he goes overboard. And thankfully, he has come to the right place to receive his just punishment. LOL.
>>>>>On a side note....Don't you love the little 12-14 foot jumpshot AB is hitting?
>>>>>I don't want him to shoot too many, but it will make him much harder to guard
>>>>>once he gets straightened out.
I am hoping ex is right and we may see the Beast before the end of the year. Were Drew playing at a beastly level, I bet you would see a huge drop in the complaints about the team and other players on the blog. Of course, Mrs. LakerTom says it will be worse. The Lakers are so good that the trolls have all run away to hide. Where was Mike T. after the Boston game? Anyway, Mrs. LT says we will devour our own young without trolls to attack and she might be right. Especially if blitz keeps trying to “Zakee” young Drew. JK, blitz.
As always, JMNSHBO!
Tom
Posted by: LakerTom | January 05, 2009 at 07:33 PM
Lakers loss to the Pistons was because of what? Kobe shooting us out of the Finals. Gary Payton letting Chauncey Billups torch us. Karl Malone playing with one knee. Shaq getting only 2 monster games. True the Pistons defense was a good one under Larry Brown but it was more Lakers killing themselves rather than the Pistons defense.
Lakers loss to the Celtics was because of what? Game 4 enough said.
Can you name a recent NBA championship that
wasn't a good defensive team? [outside of miami ] Easy. Kobe-Shaq Lakers
How was the Mavs defense against Wade in the
finals? Horrendous considering the Mavs did play good defense against Wade in Game 1 and 2. Then the refs took over 3 games.
What did Phil say the Lakers need to work on? Rebounding and Defense and being more physical.
What did Kobe say the Lakers need to work on? Rebounding, Defense
[ How is Kobe penetrating if Boston is jamming the lane? ]
Passing. No such thing as "perfect" defense. Why else would the Lakers torch the "defensive" San Antonio Spurs? When the Lakers passed the ball, they are successful regardless of what "defense" is thrown against them. The Triangle offense if run correctly is designed to thwart defenses like Boston (who uses zone). Believe me Hobbit, a fast octane great passing team (who isn't reliant on one person like Nash) like the Showtime Lakers would kill the Celtics defense.
"Watch the NBA game for about five minutes, then jump over to the college game for five. Go back and watch the professionals again, then switch back to the student-athletes."
I've watched more UCLA games than you have and probably more NCAA (yes I watch Trojan games as well when there is NOTHING on). You are trying to compare NCAA to the NBA. Try the D-League first then UCLA. And here's another note. Ben Howland's team last year was a defensive team yet who kept torching the Bruins in the Final Four? Oh yea Derrick Rose.
[ How is Kobe penetrating if Boston is jamming the lane? ]
Kobe did penetrate the lane but when close to the basket 2 Celtics nearly doubled him each time forcing him to be the center of the offense and leave the others stagnant. Just like what Jackson did with Tim Duncan. Sure Tim had great stats but the rest of the guys sure didn't. This is what you call "Box in one" defense. Every notice how the Golden State Warriors are the one team that seems to have the Celtics number? (Beating them twice and once without Monta Ellis and just Stephen Jackson). Simple they shoot jumpers and really don't have a go to guy. Without surrounding the best star the Celtics can't usually play to their full strength and got beaten by the Warriors twice ALREADY and you know that the Warrios don't play defense right?
[ Steve Nash ... I remember him. ball movement. passing.
solid offensive fundamentals. ]
Yeah who also WHIPPED the Celtics on national TV? Granted it was in Phoenix and Nash got his ankles broken (still laughing at that) later on by Rondo. But that is the point, the Celtics want to find the go to guy and first lure him to a false sense of security leaving the other guys stagnant. When he is stopped, the offense is stopped as well.
[ So does the offensive fundamental of ball movement
win over the trap which prevents the passer from
seeing an outlet for a diagonal skip? ]
That's why Lakers do few Screen and rolls compared to other teams. Great passing teams will defeat ANY defense. The Showtime Lakers did that in the 1988 Finals, and the Bulls did that against the best NBA defenses of the Pistons and especially the Riley Knicks. Defeat a trap by passing the ball.
[ Crap. taking away that immediate pass affects ball
movement/passing doesn't it? ]
Not necessarily. Great passing teams, especially the triangle offense thwarts that. The Celtics tried numerous times at Christmas at that but Kobe passed it out instead of the Celtics continuously doubling him. With careful passing ANY defense will be killed regardless of "physical" or how defensive scheme is. Otherwise the Knicks would have won against Hakeem the Dream.
[ No! You're telling me that if D'Antoni would have
deployed a defense he could have won
a championship with "7 secs or less"? All he was
missing was .... D-D-Defense? ]
No re-read the first part Hobbit:
"That's one reason why Mike D'Antoni's offense could — in the hands of great players — win a championship"
2005: Joe Johnson who was one of their big 3 (along with Nash and Stoudemire) was injured for the 1st two games in Phoenix. Put out Trevor Ariza again and will the Lakers win the title?
2006: Simply the Suns ran out of the gas after 7 games against the Lakers and Clippers. I read :07 seconds or less, Nash simply ran out of gas.
2007: The Infamous Horry Hip Check to Nash which got Stoudemire and Diaw (the center and backup PF) suspended and even without them the Suns nearly won Game 5 and had a chance to win game 6. Simply the suspensions proved too much to overcome
2008: Hack a Shaq. That's why you don't put a heavyweight boxer in a Track meet. Nash admitted that the strategy got him out of his rhythm.
Simply put with offense the Suns could have won the title TWICE. Just the other factors like Joe Johnson and the Suspension proved too much to overcome. Especially in the 2007 which I think was their peak year. The would have owned the Jazz and already owned the defensive minded Cavs in the regular season.
"Help me out here. I'm looking for:" ball movement, passing, and other fundamentals " pave the
way to a championship in the title:"
Showtime Lakers and Chicago Bulls (especially the 1st three-peat). No the Showtime Lakers may have played defense but gave up FAR more points than 101.3 like you were crying about in the off season. The Bulls played the triangle offense and it thwarted the "Defensive" minded Detroit Pistons and the Riley led New York Knicks. Sure the Bulls became better on defense but that was because they acquired Dennis Rodman (defensive player of the year multiple times) and Harper (who defended against point guards) not to mention Jordan's and Pippen's own defensive skill.
You forget the Shaq-Kobe teams did not exactly was a "defensive" team. People including you are so spoiled by the Spurs and the Pistons success. Well let me say that:
1) The Spurs are anchored by Tim Duncan the best Power Forward in NBA history.
2) The Pistons were anchored by Ben Wallace, another defensive beast
3) The Celtics are anchored by KG. Remove the Big Ticket and can the Celtics play that good defense (still good)
4) The Cavs are powered by an improving LBJ enough said.
And about defensive systems: Why can't Larry Brown get the Bobcats to win with "defense"?
Defenses are good when the offensive skills are not as good as other coaches (with the exception of Riley). Without talent, "defensive minded" teams suck.
-blitz
Posted by: kobeblitz | January 05, 2009 at 07:37 PM