RAPTure?
A 14-1 record would qualify as such a feeling for Lakers fans, and it's a clip within their collective sights as the purple and gold prepare to square off with their Torontonian guests (6:30 p.m. PST). A trip to L.A. equals some posh double-bathroomed living for the Canadian ballers, but it doesn't change the fact that tonight's contest kicks off a tough Western voyage, one requiring the Raptors to knuckle down and get some stops from the jump. Which works out fantastic, since the Lakers aren't willing to let a nearly unbeaten record cancel out the value of burying an opponent early. That would mean neutralizing MVP candidate Chris Bosh, a task likely divvied up between Lamar Odom, Pau Gasol and Andrew Bynum.
How Drew handles his end of the bargain remains to be seen, but any shortcomings wouldn't appear the result of injury. The bone spur in Bynum's foot didn't feel any worse after a Friday victory over Dallas, and yesterday's cautionary practice holdout should leave him ready to rock and roll. Not to mention play through some considerable pain in a considerably mannish way. Solid credentials for a guy many think can help revive the big man era.
OTHER NOTES:
- N.Y. needs LeBron James, not the other way around.
- The big dog is being fed, but is the litter going hungry?
- It's hard to lap Zeke when it comes to ineptitude, but Walsh/D'Antoni may have been up to the task with their Marbury blueprint. Is an end to the madness coming soon?
- Shaun Livingston is working his way back.



Do you guys ever proof read your posts for typos and grammatical errors? Yeah, didn't think so.
Posted by: Mayor of Kobe Town | November 30, 2008 at 09:39 AM
GO LAKERS!
Continue the streak.
DEFENSE!
Posted by: Laker Fan 24 | November 30, 2008 at 09:41 AM
Good Morning Charles.....Good Morning Everyone....
Game day--hope to see us come out with fire and focus and then maintain that throughout....
Hoping for some meaningful play time for Powell (and Mihm if he is able)...
You may hear some screaming from the wilds of Idaho with every miss at the Free Throw line--I can't stress enough how important shooting at least 80% as a team is to our Championship / Dynasty ....
80% free throwing was a hallmark of the 80's teams (as it was with the frickin' Celtics of that decade as well)...
Speaking of frickin' Celtics, as much as I hate / hated him, Herman Munster is still the master of the pivot in the low post, an artist---post players would indeed be wise to study film of Lurch and immulate him, if for nothing else than to help us all forget about Dr. Frawnkenstien's creation...
It's just another day for Bicycle Repairman...
AS ALWAYS, AS EVER, YET ANOTHER GREAT DAY (AND SEASON) TO BE A LAKER FAN !!!
GO LAKERS !!!
Posted by: Floyd | November 30, 2008 at 09:45 AM
Mayor of Kobe Town,
BK and I ALWAYS double check everything we post for grammatical errors and typos. However, it's difficult to catch everything, particularly without a fresh set of eyes at our disposal. We don't always have copy editors, thus, mistakes happen.
Put it this way, typos pop up in the actual paper and website, and those pieces NEVER hit the pages/wire without going through a copy desk.
AK
Posted by: kambrothers | November 30, 2008 at 09:52 AM
What's with the babies crying over grammatical errors?
Especially when error in question has no effect on getting the point across.
But seriously,
To knit-pick AK on grammar is ridiculous, they guy earned himself a job writing for the L.A. Times, COVERING THE FREAKIN' LAKERS!
One could only dream of getting a gig like that.
Stop hating!
Posted by: canibus hog | November 30, 2008 at 10:29 AM
Jordan Farmar should start and be the primary point guard.
Its obvious Farmar has all star potential that is being constrained to the Lakers detriment.
DFish plays great politics, but his inability to finish around the basket vs. Farmar's close in skill has knowledgeable basketball folks saying its time for change.
BK/AK is there any dissension about this?
Posted by: Todd | November 30, 2008 at 10:31 AM
Todd,
Dissension among whom?
AK
Posted by: kambrothers | November 30, 2008 at 10:34 AM
Let's leave the whining about errors, grammatical or otherwise, to teams like the Suns and the Knicks. AK and BK, you guys are doing a fantastic job. I work as a professional copy writer/editor, and little things slip by me from time to time. It's just the nature of working with language.
I love the Sunday whites (sorry, Jon K.!).
Defense is the name of the game. Let's see a defensive clinic by the Lake Show tonight.
Go Lake Show!
Posted by: The Outlaw | November 30, 2008 at 10:57 AM
GO LAKERS! Kill the Raptors! Kill, Kill!!!
That is all.
Posted by: Cameron | November 30, 2008 at 11:01 AM
Todd, I disagree 1000% on Farmar. He can not guard his own shadow and and is no where near having all star potential. I personally think it needs to be an off season priority to up grade the PG position and to possibly try to find a defensive point guard now to add to the roster. We are going to need it for the playoffs.
Posted by: Bopper | November 30, 2008 at 11:14 AM
Mayor of Kobe Town,
"Yeah, didn't think so" is not a complete sentence. You need both a noun and a verb. And "proofread" is one word.
Let he who has not sinned . . . show some appreciation! : )
GOOoooOOO LAKERS!!!!!
Posted by: culturist | November 30, 2008 at 11:38 AM
Sunday whites...Toronto....I can't help but think back to the night that Kobe dropped 81 on the Raptors. Never saw anything like that before!! An unbelieveable night from an unbelieveable player!
I was glad to see Kobe unleash the Mamba the other night against Dallas. Good to see him find his offensive rhythm. I'd like to see less of Kobe in the pinch post and more of his facing his man and taking them off the bounce. In the post, defenders can lean on him and beat him to death. When he faces his man up, very few can stay with him singlehandedly. When the double comes, Kobe is a more than willing passer and has numerous options. Kobe and Baby is a pretty good combo on the pick and roll to boot.
While he's very effective in the post, I think that facing up affords him just a split second more of recognition of the defense and thus a better chance to make a play.
JOLFO....
Just One Laker Fan's Opinion!!
GO LAKERS!!
Posted by: bronxlakerfan | November 30, 2008 at 11:48 AM
The reason for why I predict a laker lost tonight is not because I'm not a fan, but because of typical factors that tend to lead to a Lakers loss.
1. Lakers tend to have bad games on Sunday (although usually on day games).
2. The Lakers usually don't do long winning streaks, so they're due for a loss...especially since the Lakers have a streak against the Raptors at Staples.
3. The Lakers are in the beginning of a busy part of the year. This is probably on the Lakers mind.
4. The pressure on FishnFarmer to control the opposing guards is growing.
5. Toronto is an East Coast team, and Bosh is a powerful East coast Bigman.
6. The Lakers have been sputtering lately, just pulling out games in the final quarter or so.
7. The Bynum injury is bound to be a factor.
8. We still don't know if Kobe is officially out of his slump.
9. Ariza is due for a bad game, and Vlad still hasn't gotten over the benching he received last game.
10. We're coming into December, and the Lakers are thinking ahead to the Celtic game...
Obviously, I want the Lakers to win, so I do hope they win. But if I was betting, I'd give this one to the Raptors. I hope I'm wrong.
Posted by: troy | November 30, 2008 at 12:13 PM
Just out of curiosity, I decided to check the numbers on how the Lakers are doing efficiency-wise on both ends of the floor and how they stack up against Boston and Cleveland. Excuse me for getting all Hollinger on y'all.
Defense: The Lakers are currently 8th in points allowed at 93.7 and 6th in opponents FG% at 42.89. Boston is 1st in both categories. Yet, both the Lakers and Boston are tied in allowing 98 points per 100 possessions - the truest measure of defensive efficiency. No matter the pace of play, how often do you let teams score each time down the floor?
The discrepency in points allowed is b/c Boston averages 92 possessions per game while the Lakers average 95. So, what about the discrepancy in FG%? Well, the Lakers make up for that by being 2nd in the league in creating turnovers, averaging 1.4 more than Boston. What that means is it may be easier to shoot against the Lakers but it's harder to get a shot off in the first place. Allowing 98 points per 100 possessions is tops in the league. The next closest team is Houston who allows 100 points per 100 possessions.
So, to really beat the Lakers, opponents need to focus on taking care of the ball. Unfortunately for Boston, they are 24th in the league in committing turnovers. If you were going to identify a weak point in Boston's armor, that would be where to attack them. Disrupting their offense is the key which is a Lakers strength.
Cleveland is a different animal. The Cavs are 3rd in the league in committing turnovers and FG%. They are 1st in offensive efficency at 115 points per 100 possessions (Portland is 2nd at 113, Lakers are 3rd at 112). But, they aren't as disciplined on D allowing 103 points per 100 possessions. So, if you were going to identify a weak point in their armor, it would be to attack their D, i.e. execute better on offense which is also a Lakers strength.
Of course, these are just stats and don't take personnel match-ups into account. But it does give something to analyze while we wait for the teams to meet actually up on the court. The bottom line is the Lakers are well equipped to handle both teams.
Posted by: lakers_sth | November 30, 2008 at 12:21 PM
troy,
"5. Toronto is an East Coast team, and Bosh is a powerful East coast Bigman."
So the Lakers are going to lose every Eastern team this season?
And Bosh doesn't qualify as "powerful," he's a stud, no doubt, but he's a finesse player.
Posted by: Xodus | November 30, 2008 at 12:26 PM
"2. The Lakers usually don't do long winning streaks, so they're due for a loss...especially since the Lakers have a streak against the Raptors at Staples."
You'd have a more likely chance (not saying impossible) to be betting on the Washington Generals to win over the Harlem Globetrotters than us losing tonight Troy. Krusty: I thought the Generals were due!
"5. Toronto is an East Coast team, and Bosh is a powerful East coast Bigman."
Yea? So was New Jersey and Chicago and we beat them. Plus the Nuggets beat the "mighty Celtics" at their own house and them Nuggets got served by us. That does not mean crap.
"8. We still don't know if Kobe is officially out of his slump."
Kobe has always shot around 46% for his career. It shouldn't be bothered upon.
"9. Ariza is due for a bad game, and Vlad still hasn't gotten over the benching he received last game."
Really?? How can you KNOW??
"10. We're coming into December, and the Lakers are thinking ahead to the Celtic game..."
One game at a time is the motto for the Lakers. Where in that line says they ar more focused on the Celtics now!!!??
Negativity NEVER wins over POSITIVITY!
Try being more POSITIVE like Otis is, Troy.
-blitz
Posted by: kobeblitz | November 30, 2008 at 12:28 PM
Dear Hog;
You're absolutely absolutely! I am a Laker fan with no league pass. Yes, I did not see the Celtics almost lose
to the Bobcats. I have no scouting skills at all, having just been born yesterday. Dumbass? You really should've waited until the day after Christmas to say this, but I'll take it - probably warranted. Blitz, thanks for nothing - I was just saying hi.
Posted by: Otis | November 30, 2008 at 12:29 PM
Floyd,
"You may hear some screaming from the wilds of Idaho with every miss at the Free Throw line"
Do you live in Idaho?
If so, what part of the state?
Posted by: Eric M. | November 30, 2008 at 12:37 PM
Enjoyed the article on "New Era for Big Men", but couldn't help getting stuck on the Dwight Howard omission. I'm a Laker fan living near Orlando, and watched him go for 32-21-4 last night. Oden & Bynum aren't even near those kind of numbers...yet.
Posted by: Laker Kev | November 30, 2008 at 12:46 PM
Bopper,
There's no question that JF needs to improve his on-ball defense, especially against the high screen pick n roll. But one can't ignore his dramatic improvement in shooting and decision making, this season. JF is one very smart player, and that part of his game will come.
JF's turnovers are way down and his speed and aggression mitigates his defensive weaknesses against most teams.
This observer believes that Jordan is putting himself under way too much pressure, which gets him out of sorts in defensive situations where he feels at a disadvantage. His workman-like ethic and good coaching will overcome this. At age 22, he's only in his third season and it is only December. I'm predicting big improvement in his defensive game by the time it really counts.
Posted by: Rick Friedman | November 30, 2008 at 12:49 PM
Hey Everybody,
I am sick as a dog today. No fun whatsoever.
I'm glad the Clippers won last night though the last 7.9 seconds practically gave me a heart attack.
I fully expect a lackluster victory tonight. Why? The Sunday white jerseys. Created by Lakers marketing so that girls could by Lakers jersies too.
They always seem to take the spring out of the Lakers step.
But this is an important game to win. We have to remember how important it is for us to punish Toronto for havings such a lame-ass mascot. Just terrible.
Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.
GO LAKERS!
Posted by: Jon K. | November 30, 2008 at 01:10 PM
Efficiency-wise, here's a snapshot (for those that don't want to wade through my earlier post) of how the Lakers stack up against Boston and Cleveland. This is the reason why this trio is the class of the league so far.
Lakers - 3rd in offense (112), 1st in defense (98)
Boston - 12th in offense (107), 1st in defense (98)
Cleveland - 1st in offense (115), 6th in defense (103)
Take a look at how different the stats look when you just do straight points scored vs allowed:
Lakers - 1st in offense (107.5), 8th in defense (93.7)
Boston - 14th in offense (98.2), 1st in defense (90.1)
Cleveland - 4th in offense (103.6), 4th in defense (92.6)
Part of the reason why these numbers look so different is b/c the Lakers average 95 possessions per game while Boston averages 92 and Cleveland 90, while the efficiency number are based on 100 possessions.
Posted by: lakers_sth | November 30, 2008 at 01:10 PM
Troy, I couldn't disagree more with your points.
1. "Lakers tend to have bad games on Sundays." Really? You've obviously been going to the wrong church on Sundays. I think you need a healthy dose of Staples Center prayer. Last season, the Lakers went 14-7 on Sundays.
2. Man, I loved that 16-1 streak at the beginning of the '01-02 season.
3. The only thing on the Lakers' minds is a victory tonight. Period.
4. Fisher knows a lot about pressure. Think .04. Then think it again.
5. The Raptors are Canadian. Enough said.
6. Sputtering? I think you meant "dominating."
7. Bynum's a tough kid. Give him some credit. I wonder if you would play with a fragment of bone floating around in your foot.
8. You'll find out about Kobe tonight. By the way, he's shooting 46%, and he's ranked 12th among guards in shooting percentage. Kobe takes some tough shots, too. And he makes a lot of them. I guarantee that he dunks hard on someone tonight.
9. Ariza is due for a BREAKOUT game. 22/12/7/3.
10. Again, the Lake Show is thinking about tonight, and tonight only. Come on, man.
Leave the naysayer attitude to "never," who has earned the right to perform a valuable service on the blog.
Go Lake Show!
Posted by: The Outlaw | November 30, 2008 at 01:17 PM
Troy,
I bet the opposite. The Lakers are very familiar with the Raftors whom they faced during the preseason. If ever Lakers will lose, perhaps one of the back to back game next week on the road i.e. if they continue sagging on early quarter on defense and poor shooting night. Secondly, Kobe knows the hidden secrets of Bosh while your nemesis Pau knew very well his paisano' Jose Calderon. If we are referring to the past Lakers when Luke, Cook and Smush were our role players supporting Kobe, maybe I will go with what you posted. This year, you have zero-in a bad Kobe night combined with dismal shooting of the other eight before you can beat the Lakers. Anyway, let's see who can better guess better by evaluating the horses?
I feel your pain on Pau Gasol because you expect him to be an American power player. That is not his basketball Catalan culture but he has a good IQ on the game. He knows how to use his finesse to his advantage with those mid set-up shots, pivot dunks, tall man's fast break and positioning down low. Anyway, he is not perfect, half of him is taken cared by Drew that's why we're winning against other abled centers so far. Lakers are playing team game where the weakness of one is overcome by the strenght of the other four and PJ recognizes or takes out the weakest link immediately b/c he has a lot choices on the bench, whereas before his choices were Williams and McKie to replace Luke and Cook. It is a worse to worst exchange, today there are choices of good, better, best depending on their showing throughout the game. In the last game, he remove Vlad and put Trevor, relieve FArmar and gave the baton to Fisher. Farmar learned in the 4th Q what he has to do to do with this pesky roadrunner, just one swat from Drew, the pesky little fly just sat on the bench.
Posted by: Edwin Gueco | November 30, 2008 at 01:18 PM
The reason for why I predict a laker lost tonight is not because I'm not a fan, but because of typical factors that tend to lead to a Lakers loss.
1. Lakers tend to have bad games on Sunday (although usually on day games).
2. The Lakers usually don't do long winning streaks, so they're due for a loss...especially since the Lakers have a streak against the Raptors at Staples.
3. The Lakers are in the beginning of a busy part of the year. This is probably on the Lakers mind.
4. The pressure on FishnFarmer to control the opposing guards is growing.
5. Toronto is an East Coast team, and Bosh is a powerful East coast Bigman.
6. The Lakers have been sputtering lately, just pulling out games in the final quarter or so.
7. The Bynum injury is bound to be a factor.
8. We still don't know if Kobe is officially out of his slump.
9. Ariza is due for a bad game, and Vlad still hasn't gotten over the benching he received last game.
10. We're coming into December, and the Lakers are thinking ahead to the Celtic game...
Obviously, I want the Lakers to win, so I do hope they win. But if I was betting, I'd give this one to the Raptors. I hope I'm wrong.
Posted by: troy | November 30, 2008 at 12:13 PM
Other than points 1 and 5, which are more today's game related, I guess you could make a case that the Lakers could lose every game leading up to the Celtics game. Oh, and on #5, there is no power to Bosh's game. Love, love, love Bosh but he is not a power bigman, his game is all finesse. Must be all the Detroit/Boston obsession you have that makes you embellish the "power" of these east coast teams.
Posted by: Rob | November 30, 2008 at 01:19 PM
lakers sth-
To expand on your point, the numbers also emphasize LA's need to take care of the ball themselves. In the halfcourt, they've been effective, but pace aside give up a few possessions each game with bad TOs, which obviously leads to better open floor scoring opps for the other team. Shot selection also plays a role.
BK
Posted by: kambrothers | November 30, 2008 at 02:05 PM
I am sure some of you have seen this, but I find it useful in tracking the Lakers vs. other teams in the league.
http://tinyurl.com/6oy6x2
Obviously the team closest to the upper right hand corner of the chart is the most efficient in the league. Using that criteria you can see that the Lakers are actually quite a bit ahead of the Celtics.
Of course we still have to play the games :-)
Posted by: pslakerfan | November 30, 2008 at 02:57 PM
As much as everyone on this blog hates Stephon, he would still be an UPGRADE to our PG position, check his stats from previous years, always amongst the assist leaders in the league. Neither Fish nor Jordan are conventional playmakers, thereby leading to errors and or sometimes erratic play. Jordan can finish better than Fish, Steph is better than both of them IMO finishing, shooting the 3 and making plays for others and relatively decent on the ball defender...But again, I know nobody is a STEPH fan on here so I am not expecting your piggybacking here..More importantly, I doubt the Lakers will try and get him, I just don't want the Bostons, San Anton's and or Dallases of the world to get him either!!!!
Go Lakers!
Posted by: lakersrydeordie | November 30, 2008 at 03:10 PM
Troy,
Go listen to "Hotel California"; you'll feel better.
Posted by: exhelodrvr | November 30, 2008 at 03:33 PM
oh my god, keep Marbury away from ALL young Laker players. I can't believe Miami would let that guy anywhere near Beasley, talk about bad influences.
The only team that makes sense is Cleveland, either Marbury puts them over the top or Lebron leaves anyway, what do they have to lose?
Posted by: Stay Thirsty My Friends | November 30, 2008 at 03:34 PM
Guys,
Don't get me wrong, I want my Lakers to win. Fact, after tonight, I don't see another lost until the Knicks game. But we can't win every game. We have to lose sometimes, and I think the chances are good that we lose tonight. That said, lets hope I'm wrong.
By the way, the only reason for why I post critical analysis is that we have enough bloggers here posting the cheerleader stuff. If there's no diversity in ideas in our posts, the blog gets predictable and boring. Someone here has to do the dirty work.
Posted by: troy | November 30, 2008 at 03:52 PM
Who's the better power forward: Pau or Bosh?
Posted by: EJK | November 30, 2008 at 04:50 PM
Game Night!
Hope to see us contain Bosh and Calderon. Want to see us staying in front of their pg's and Drew dominating the paint. I want to see DEFENSE!!!!
Kill the Raptors!
GO LAKERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: longtimelakerlover | November 30, 2008 at 04:52 PM
Troy,
The Knicks....
The Knicks....
The Knicks....
Sessh I know you want to be analytical but:
1) There are many other analytical bloggers here. Not just me but Lakers_sth, Edwin, Jon K and so on. Don't think you are the only one in the whole blog.
2) Your analysis while I respect are out of shape. The Knicks... if Zach Randolph was there then there would have been an outside chance but The Knicks...
As Allen Iverson said:
We talkin about the Knicks?? (Practice)
I bet the next thing you will say is that the victory over the Suns was in fact a Suns victory
-blitz
Posted by: kobeblitz | November 30, 2008 at 04:54 PM
LAL is off to a great start, but, as I have been talking about on my blog, there is a cause for concern at the point.
http://lakersfan32.blogspot.com/
Consistently Fish and Farmar are getting beat. Which so far has not cost any games, but that will not last.
But that does not mean Marbury is the answer, for far from it. Fish and Farmar are both familiar with the triangle, someone like Marbury can not play with in it and learn it quickly enough.
Bottom line is stick with the roster we have and hope Bynum and Gasol can plug the holes the PGs are opening.
Posted by: Christopher Higgins | November 30, 2008 at 04:56 PM
BK - I agree. The Lakers need to limit those turnovers (Dallas was pretty effective at causing them early in Friday's game) and stop with those ill-advised shots that might as well be turnovers. What's nice is that the Lakers are 2nd in turnover differential (how many you cause vs how many you give up).
I guess it just goes to give insight into how these teams are doing what they're doing. The numbers make sense when you hear teams talk about how they feel like they're getting good looks against LA but are still losing (b/c a lot of times they're not even getting shots off). A number of people have talked about Boston "struggling" (if you want to call it that) against teams they shouldn't. Their defense is what wins them games but those games are close b/c they often go through stretches where they have trouble scoring. Cleveland, on the other hand, has been simply overpowering teams with their offense - which makes sense considering all the talk about how LeBron has been playing out of his mind offensively. Their D is solid and against most teams, that's going to be too much to handle. If you're going straight off the numbers, Cleveland should be the hardest match-up for LA b/c they have a slightly better offense and slightly worse defense. If Cleveland buckles down on D and the Lakers turn it up on O then it'll be a real war.
pslakerfan - that's a great link which charts the numbers I've been touting. Let's hope Portland doesn't see it and realize they need to tighten up on D to become an elite team.
Posted by: lakers_sth | November 30, 2008 at 05:27 PM
Troy - There are plenty of Lakers critics on this blog. What you have to be careful of is being contrarian and pessimistic just for the sake of doing so. Then you just become a cartoon character like all the homers and haters. How about just having a realistic view of what's going on? You want to talk Xs and Os about why the Raptors have a good chance of winning then let's do it.
Posted by: lakers_sth | November 30, 2008 at 05:32 PM
AK / BK,
Is your title a reference to the biblical moment before apocalypse goes into the finals or Blondie?
Either way . . .
GOOooooOO LAKERS!!!
Posted by: JohnnyP | November 30, 2008 at 05:56 PM
Go get em Lakers!
Posted by: Tim-4-Show | November 30, 2008 at 05:56 PM
Here's what worries me about tonight. The Raptors love shooting the long ball and leave Bosh to produce inside. If the Lakers "concede" Toronto open looks from beyond the arc (which seemingly has been part of their gameplan) and those shots go down for the Raptors then they're going to be feeling very good about themselves and tonight might be another one of those nights where LA finds itself in a hole early. Kobe can't be freelancing off Anthony Parker and Pau is going to have to step out of the paint to guard Bargnani.
On offense, I'd like to see LA pound it inside and try and get Toronto's bigs in foul trouble. Bosh can't get his 30 and 10 if he's not on the floor. Hopefully, the reverse isn't true where he's able to get Pau and/or Drew picking up cheap fouls early.
Posted by: lakers_sth | November 30, 2008 at 06:24 PM
AK/BK,
Are we live blogging today?
Anna
Posted by: Anna in Bondi | November 30, 2008 at 06:34 PM
Johnny P,
Blondie.
AK
Posted by: kambrothers | November 30, 2008 at 06:45 PM
Rick, I certainly hope you are correct about improvement from Jordan. While I agree with you that he has improved dramatically on his decisions and offense, he is still a major liability on 50% of his overall game which is defense. Again, I hope you are right that he does improve as the year goes on but if not, the Lakers need to look for someone else to develop as insurance.
Posted by: Bopper | November 30, 2008 at 07:51 PM