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At least Canada has Gretzky: Lakers 112, Raptors 99

November 30, 2008 | 11:14 pm

Sunday night's 112-99 win over the Toronto Raptors provided a glimpse at what both makes the Lakers arguably the best team in the league, along with their (relative) weaknesses.  When it comes to the latter, a trapping D currently in practice can effectively force teams into taking jumpers from distance, Bynum_layup_around_bosh but those lower-percentage shots gain traction when no rotating defender arrives to close out. For example of this phenomenon, take a look at the third quarter, in which six of eight Toronto three-pointers went down.  The Lakers also fall a little too in love at times with the alley oop and Hail Mary passes, which are certainly more fun than dumping the ball inside, but they're also more likely to result in one of the 19 turnovers converted into 17 Dinosaur points. 

And specifically on a night like this evening, where the opponent's best interior defender (Jermaine O'Neal) is nursing a sprained ankle, it's basically mandatory that the ball end up in either Andrew Bynum or Pau Gasol's hands on the low block or the mitts of a posting/driving Kobe Bryant for a kick out, because the Raptors were at a distinct disadvantage around the hoop.  "We went inside in the first quarter and we kind of forgot about it," admitted Bynum. "At the start of the second quarter, Pau was able to get off.  Then in the third quarter, they started finding me inside."

This would be the part where we talk about the Lakers' strengths.

As they got back to basics, L.A. not only began running circles around the Raptors, but showed just how many ways they can beat a team silly -- using their length to out-rebound Toronto, 54-36 (Bynum and Odom both snagged 10), racking a season-high 34 assists (everyone with at least six minutes of playing time had at least one), 51% shooting from the floor, and a bench talented enough to steam roll a nine-point lead at the end of the third quarter to 19 points after just six minutes of play in the fourth with Kobe and Pau on the pine. That, ladies and gents, is a team able to pocket winning box score after winning box score. Whenever up for playing at the top of their collective games, the metaphorical sky is the actual limit. 

The breakdown is below.

THE GOOD


As previously mentioned, Toronto sported a major weakness in the paint on both sides of the ball, one that needed heavy exploitation. Case in point A...

  • Pau Gasol: While the Kwame Brown-exchanged forward wasn't always fed enough down low for my tastes (more on that later), he did prove that no matter where he decided to put up the ball, the Toronto personnel wasn't equipped to guard him.  Whether from just inside 20 feet, mid-range or putting back errant shots, Gasol went 10 for 17 en route to 24 points, chipping in nine rebounds (five offensive) just for the fun of it.  Throw in the guy's passing ability and it's easy to understand why good things often happen when he helps set the table.   

Case in point B...

  • Andrew Bynum: Drew's first half featured just three attempts, a number I found considerably paltry.  The kid apparently agreed, because he hoisted another 10 over the next 24 minutes, his seven fourth-quarter points in particular helping to create separation between hosts and visitors.  Bynum's offensive display included short jumpers and spin moves down low, but he also did serious damage from point-blank range.  Pick-and-roll screens were slipped to receive textbook feeds from Kobe Bryant, misses were put back and sometimes the rock just got flat out slammed.  A sweet shovel pass from Sasha Vujacic (who enjoyed one of his best dishing nights of the season) set up the prettiest sequence, but the nastiest (in a good way) came when Jordan Farmar put up an alley that Bynum ooped upside Joey Graham's head.  Predictably, the Staples crowd went goony bird.

    It's also worth noting the work Drew did defending Chris Bosh, particularly when the All-Star was working his face-up game.  Playing away from the bucket isn't necessarily considered Drew's bread and butter, but Bynum more than held his own.  Shots from eight to 10 feet were successfully challenged, turnovers forced and drives to the basket were altered when the young center kept pace with his more polished foe.  And if you like what you saw, credit the Captain, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, with a big assist.  After watching Bosh draw a foul against Drew and can a 21-footer in his face in Toronto's early possessions, he gave Bynum some advice during the first time out.  Smiled Bynum, "Kareem was like, 'Make sure that you stay within the arm length of him and play his left hand, before he even makes a move, play him on to he left side.'  And it worked."   That Bosh finished the night four for 13 for an unimpressive 12 points wasn't entirely the result of Bynum's defensive ability, but Socks certainly had a hand in a lack of starKobe_bryant_vs_toronto power witnessed.
  • Trevor Ariza: Another night of filling up a box score for the super sub.  14/6/5 and a block.

THE BAD

  • Sam Mitchell's ability to "game plan" Kobe:  Granted, you're talking about a baller most coaches struggle to corral.  But dude, 21 points at the half on eight of 11 shooting, 23 in all (bear in mind, Mamba sat the final 13 minutes), and a 51-90 clip from the field for 136 points over the previous four games since "81."  Methinks another trip to the ol' drawing board may be warranted.  If, however, the plan was to make Kobe a "distributor" (as teams often have in the past), hats off.  Kobe's seven dimes represented a season high.  Mitchell's been rumored to reside on the hot seat.  Assuming the man enjoys being employed, he's lucky the Raptors only play the Lakers twice a year.
  • Eyes often anywhere but inside: Judging by the box score alone, a night where Pau Gasol and Drew combined for 42 points would reflect an evening spent feeding the big dogs.  But that's why games aren't played on box scores (or whatever the saying is), because truth be told, Gasol was often making hay from outside and both got some cleaning up misses, as opposed to being set up with clean looks on the block and playing "inside-out."  Tonight, that was the equivalent of an ace in the hole folded. As time went on, the Lakers began remembering and using this advantage (coincidentally, they began pulling away too), but it should be a credo by this point.  Few, if any, teams have an obvious counter to the Lakers front court.  Every possession must include a paint touch or two, even if the shot eventually goes up from elsewhere.   
  • Jordan Farmar: His set-up of Drew's monster dunk provided one of the game's unquestionable highlights, but Farmar was also at the center of more than a few lowlights.  Some quick shots off little ball movement (along with a very ill-advised post up fade away) and five turnovers merit mention, but mainly it was the Bruin continually a step behind whoever he was guarding.  When that's Jose Calderon, so be it.  A lot of fellas can't keep the pace with el PG de Espana.  But when it's whoever Roko Ukic is, that's a little discouraging.

THE "HUGE HAND" RECIPIENT

  • DJ Mbenga: On a night where the crowd got them some free Mexican food, they applauded mightily the symbolic insertion of a home team's taco embodiment.   And where's the best place to serve tacos?  At a block party hosted by DJ Mbenga, who notched a pair in just three minutes. 

AUDIO

AK

QUOTES:

Pau Gasol,
on Kobe Bryant continuing to get fourth quarter rest:
"It's really nice to have a big lead so that we don't need to be out there for the fourth quarter.  Other players can step up and our bench players can get some more minutes and some more flow.  It's a win-win for us."

On the team's performance of late:
"We expect to win every night, that's how good of a team we are and that's how good of a team we want to be and have to be.  Some nights it's not going to happen.  We're going to have some off nights and there's going to be some teams on the road that are going to be tough to beat.  We have great expectations and great ambitions.  We're going out there to win every night."

Chris Bosh, on the Lakers' defensive rotations:
"They come from that bottom spot and take every pass away except the furthest pass, which is in the corner and the backboard is in the way. I have two 7-foot defenders on me.  It was very tough."

Raptors coach Sam Mitchell on the Lakers' rebounding:
"I thought our guys were boxing out, but guys like Gasol and Bynum are just strong and were reaching over us and we couldn't come up with that key basket or that key stop when we needed it."

On Kobe Bryant and the improved Lakers:
"He knows that he is on a better basketball team.  He understands that he doesn't have to try to score every time down the court, that he has guys he can defer to and get the ball to.  But yet, he still knows, being Kobe, he knows the system that he can get his and get opportunities when he wants. But you know the way Gasol and Bynum played tonight, and some of their other guys, it was just tough (for us.)"

Phil Jackson
, on the upcoming road trip:
"I think the tempo of the game changes.  We have to be more concerned about controlling the game with fewer turnovers, less fouls and (creating) fewer opportunities for our opponents."


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Chris Bosh, on the Lakers' defensive rotations:
"They come from that bottom spot and take every pass away except the furthest pass, which is in the corner and the backboard is in the way."

That's that strong-side trapping zone working to perfection. Couldn't describe it any clearer.


Magic32,

"Can anyone name a pointguard that is a good one on one defender? I can't."

Good point. It's not so much that all PG's play bad defense, it's the rule changes. The league doesn't allow grabbing and bumping anymore because that wanted more penetration and more scoring and excitement. Nobody can keep JF out of the paint either.

That's why championship teams now must have BIG BOYS in the paint. Pau and AB are two of the biggest. hehe.

troy,

No offense, but we didn't need Phil to tell us about the Big 3 Beasts of the East.

We know this team is has it's flaws, the trolls here never let us forget it. But if we're flawed, they're are some seriously f-ed up teams out there.

LakerTom,

An all-star appearance is possible if he continues to improve with every game as he has. He'll have to beat our Shaq, but that's possible considering the way we're running away with the West.

Thank you, Mamba24 - you are too kind. O.K., Xodus, I've been straightened out. Maybe just one little chug? After all, it's Ripple!

Floyd: "Speaking of pick and rolls---WHY DON'T WE UTILIZE THE PICK AND ROLL MORE??? we have a multitude of extremely effective players that can be devistating in that play---not only being a thing of absolute sublime beauty, we score on it about 129% of the time...."

The pick-and-roll is part of the triangle and the Lakers do it all the time, they're just not that great at it. When done right, it can really put the defense in scramble mode. But, for some reason, the way the Lakers execute it, it's almost pedestrian. Perhaps it's the speed at which they do it (too slow) or the fact that the ball-handler doesn't get close enough to the big for the pick to be effective.

Otis,
"don't give me any crap about attitude or I will have to mention the name Dennis Rodman"

Don't even think about comparing those two. Rodman was a flake, but he gave absolutely all he had while on the floor, and accepted the roles that the coaches had for him.

Rodman should make it into the Hall of Fame, although his off-the-court antics may have turned off too many voters. Marbury, not even close.

wow,

>>>>>I don't know if its me but it seems like you two want to put this team in Pau
>>>>>and Andrew's hands. Every game you complain about Pau or Andrew not
>>>>>get enough touches, again they are 14-1, but I sure hope both of them know
>>>>>this is Kobe team and you.

While there is no doubt that the Lakers are Kobe’s team, feeding the ball inside to Drew and Pau delivers higher percentage shots, gets the other team in foul difficulties, and creates wide-open in-rhythm opportunities for the Lakers spot up shooters.

>>>>>Talent wise those two are not even close, and Kobe is still going to be the
>>>>>focal point on offense. I'm just starting to get real irritated of this post
>>>>>touches crap. Everybody got their numbers last night and the best thing
>>>>>the players complement each other well.

Nobody is saying that Drew or Pau are anywhere near as good as Kobe but after struggling to find a reliable #2 option to help Kobe win, the Lakers are now blessed to have TWO star players who can help carry the scoring load. This is important because it allows Kobe to focus on being the team’s defensive stopper and offensive closer. Kobe’s leadership on defense may be more important to the Lakers winning it all this year than his all-world offensive prowess. Hell with MVP, Kobe wants DPOY.

>>>>>I think an LA time article said Kobe has shot 54% in four out of the last five
>>>>>games. That is impressive.

No matter how you slice it, Drew and Pau are lifetime over 50% shooters while Kobe is historically a 45% shooter. One of the keys to the Lakers dominance this season has been their ability to shoot a higher percentage than their opponents.

>>>>>But what bothers me the most is the post touch argument could lead to
>>>>>another Shaq vs. Kobe thing. From what I've seen the three main players
>>>>>(Kobe, Pau and Gasol) are doing well with their averages.

The reason why the Lakers need to play inside-out basketball is that is how you win championships. I don’t really see a repeat of the Shaq-Kobe controversy because neither Drew nor Pau have the ego or illusions of greatness that plagued Shaq. Kobe is also the acknowledged leader of the team and really just wants to win and playing inside-out basketball is the proven formula to win championships.

JMNSHO.

Tom

exhelodrvr....

Good point about Drew's court awareness. He handles and passes the ball very well. That assist to Sasha late in the game by AB is another example of this. Since the Sacto game last Sunday, Bynum has had 1 turnover in 3 games. Not bad.

Xodus,
You beat me to it on the ROdman post. He would be on of the all-time greats list, Marbury is on the all-time waste list.

I agree about the difficulty for ANY PG to stay in front of quick players in space- it's not just Fish and Farmar. But I think with JF, one problem tends to be the angles he takes and the aftermath of steal attempts that don't result in steals. Last night, there were a few times when Farmar either went for a steal or shaded Ukic/Calderon way to far to one side (perhaps expecting a screen or help that wasn't there?) opening up half of the floor for penetration.

It might just be a question of decision making, and picking spots. On the other hand, his quickness and hand speed does let him pick up his fair share of steals, and he fits in well defensively with that second unit.

PG defense is probably the hardest thing in the NBA right now, but even with that JF has to get better at staying in front of his man more often.

BK

Eric,

>>>>>Let's not forget to give LAKERTOM his due. He predicted 15-0 before the
>>>>>season started. While we came up 1 game short, still deserves a Clap Clap Clap.

Thanks for the props. I was looking at the December schedule last night after the game and we have a solid chance to post a similar record for this month. We have 11 games against losing teams (IND, PHI, WAS, MIL, SAC, SAC, MIN, NYK, MIA, MEM, & GSW) and only 4 against serious contenders (PHX, ORL, NOH, BOS). It would take a great effort to go 14-1 in December but it is not impossible. We could conceivably go into our Xmas game with Boston with a 27-1 record and a 20-game winning streak. OK, that may be a little over the top but with this team, maybe not. LOL.

Tom

Eric M.,

After living in Moscow, Idaho (born there) (2 years), Texas, various places (1 and a half years), Oklahoma City (6 months or so), Seattle & Tacoma (1 year each), Tokyo, Japan (3 years), Layton, Utah (4 years), Oahu, Hawaii (3 years) , Montgomery Alabama (1 year, mercifully), Falls Church Virginia (3 months) , Cypress / Los Alamitos California (20 years), I have now lived in Pocatello Idaho for the last 14 years...

Became a die hard Laker fan in 1966 when we moved to Utah (would have sooner but no TV in Japan etc)...enjoyed 20 years of Chick when I lived in So Cal...(really miss him)...

Do you live in Idaho too? In Pocatello there is a host of obnoxious Jazz fans and Laker haters and I have to bear the torch, which I am more than happy to do to say the least....

"watching the world go by my window"...

"it's spelled Raymond Luxury Yacht , but it's prounounced Throatwabbler Mangrove"

GO LAKERS !!!

Eric,

>>>>>That's why championship teams now must have BIG BOYS in the paint.
>>>>>Pau and AB are two of the biggest. hehe.

And BIG BOYS in the paint need to be fed and rewarded at the other end. LOL.

That’s what I miss most about LA, Bob’s Big Boy. The world’s best hamburger. Whenever I go to LA, I always visit what may be the last standing Bob’s Big Boy in SoCal in Glendale. And for old time’s sake, a hard copy of the LA Times sports section.

Tom

Kbros.....

I was wondering if a technical for hanging on the rim such as the one Andrew recieved in the Dallas game carries a fine the way an unsportsmanlike T does. Perhaps you guys know.

Posted by: bronxlakerfan | November 30, 2008 at 11:08 PM

Guys, just curious about this. Does anyone know the answer?

Jon K.'s Personal, Yet Reasoned Prediction of the Lakers' Record on Christmas Morning:

26-1: 45% (You've seen our schedule right?)
25-2: 35% (Phoenix or New Orleans might get lucky... maybe.)
24-3: 15% (Phoenix AND New Orleans could get lucky... maybe.)
23-4: 5% (Injuries sometimes happen.)

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!

AK, no problemo. The Lakers are winning with such certainty that I have nothing else to do but pick nits.

What up Mamba24!!

Bronx-

No, I don't think so.

BK

Jon K's. Prediction of the Lakers' Record on December 26th:

One more victory than on the morning of December 25th.

Why?

1. Bynum and a bitter Lakers team.
2. This will be the first game of the year where the Lakers will play in front of a supportive, yet truly blood-thirsty Lakers crowd. That energy will wake up the Lakers and make a true difference in the play of the Lakers which the Celtics will not be able to match. Instead the Celtics will play with anger and will, thus, self-destruction.

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!

Xodus, You beat me to it on the ROdman post. He would be on of the all-time greats list,
Marbury is on the all-time waste list. Posted by: exhelodrvr | December 01, 2008 at 09:42 AM

MIDSEASON FORM EX. LOL!

I sure hope Marbury goes to Europe (or better yet Siberia). Believe it or not, I'd rather not read articles about highly-paid cancers. These idiots are the reason why people who otherwise enjoy teamwork, competition, and heart don't like the NBA and professional sports in general.

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!

What up Mamba24!! Posted by: #4 | December 01, 2008 at 10:13 AM

Just admiring you making the Nation come correct my brother.
I don't think the Lakers are going to lose until again till February.

Floyd,
"it's spelled Raymond Luxury Yacht , but it's prounounced Throatwabbler Mangrove"

It's only a model.

Good morning crue!!

2nd unit again kicks complete ass!!!!

GO LAKE SHOW!!

ARIZA = 6th man of the year!!!!

magic32 -

The point isn't that Farmar is a bad defender; you're right in saying that there are many bad defenders in this league. It's that he's an ATROCIOUS defender, and, more frustratingly, with his quickness, he should be much, much better. I agree with AK about the angles thing. He's opening up his back foot too much and basically ushering his man to the basket. He also seems to give up when hit with a half-decent screen and just kinda watches as his guy (and the screener) both go to the basket. Off the ball, he's much better and has good anticipation for steals, but on the ball, he's simply horrific. He's made Ukic, Barrea and others look like All-Stars when they're otherwise plastered to the bench.

Oh, and by the way, there are many very good to excellent defensive point guards...

Kyle Lowry (best PG defender in the game, in my opinion)
Marcus Banks (who is otherwise useless)
Rajon Rondo
Rafer Alston
Kirk Hinrich
Tony Parker
Deron Williams
Devin Harris
Earl Watson
Russell Westbrook

Jordan should learn with time, but right now he's got a huge bullseye on his back as opposing teams are attacking him off the dribble relentlessly.

Tom,

------Thanks for the props. I was looking at the December schedule last night after the game and we have a solid chance to post a similar record for this month. We have 11 games against losing teams (IND, PHI, WAS, MIL, SAC, SAC, MIN, NYK, MIA, MEM, & GSW) and only 4 against serious contenders (PHX, ORL, NOH, BOS). It would take a great effort to go 14-1 in December but it is not impossible. We could conceivably go into our Xmas game with Boston with a 27-1 record and a 20-game winning streak. OK, that may be a little over the top but with this team, maybe not. LOL.-----


Let me extend those props to you, good job!!

I was also just about to look at our december schedule before I read your post. Thanks man, not only did you save me time but you put a big smile on my face. We CAN do this!! If the Lakers are ready to put forth the effort,(and I think they are) then coming into the Christmas game 27-1 and riding a 20 game winning streak isn't as far of a long shot as most people who aren't following the NBA or the Lakers right now very closely would have you believe.

And even if we do pick up a couple losses between now and then, I still like our chances against Boston!!

dan

Go Lakers!!

puddle,

I see your point about Farmar, but he is so competitive personally that I find it hard to believe that he won't improve defensively considering the skill sets he possesses.

What do we play for? RINGS!!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!

dan,

>>>>>And even if we do pick up a couple losses between now and then,
>>>>>I still like our chances against Boston!!

I agree. Who knows, we may win out until Christmas and go into that game 27-1. How sweet would 28-1 be then? The key is how well Drew plays. If he continues to improve as he has over the last week, then we should be OK. It will also be very interesting to see how Drew changes all of the front court matchups for the Celtics. Pau should really be much more effective playing power forward rather than center.

Tom

 


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