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At this point, everyone could probably use a fresh game to discuss

November 17, 2008 |  3:10 pm

Our good friend Ross Siler, who used to cover the Lakers for the Daily News and now is on the Jazz beat (very John Coltrane) once said covering the Lakers is like experiencing 82 Super Bowls a year, where rationality occasionally goes the way of these technologies.  With the deservedly high expectations for the '08-'09 purple and gold, this year won't be any different, but since our local hardwood heroes had to attend a mandatory Player's Association meeting after practice Monday afternoon in El Segundo, there wasn't a whole lot of fresh dish served this afternoon.  That meant more talk of Detroit.  How can the Lakers bounce back from the loss? What they can learn?  What went wrong?  Where do they go from here?

I get the impression that the team finds this "What now?" breathlessness a little silly.  "That's what you guys do," Kobe said with a smile, referencing the assembled talking/writing heads.  "That's what makes the season exciting.  You have these runs where it looks like you're unbeatable, you might go 82-0, then you lose one and you're fighting for the eighth seed." 

As for the Lakers, they take it Bonnie Franklin style

Not that there isn't work to be done.  Kobe mentioned more than once the challenges LA will face defensively against teams (like Detroit) with bigs who can step away from the basket and spread the floor, a sentiment echoed by Phil Jackson: "We really have to stay in front of the penetration.  That's our big key, and we worked on that a little today.  About not getting spread out, not getting the penetration that teams want.  Recovering back the players that we have to man-cover.  This has been a perennial problem for us as a team, and we're going to have two guards who do that very well in (Derrick) Rose and (Steve) Nash here in the next two games." 

Most strategies in sports are a series of trade offs, and defense in basketball is no exception.  No scheme is free of weaknesses.  The goal for the Lakers is to keep the other team as far away from the bucket as possible, even if that means conceding more shots from outside. 

"The biggest thing is to stop penetration.  That's the key in this game as it is in most sports game.  You're trying to get to a goal, and the closer that ball gets to the goal the worse you are defensively," he said, presumably lumping in hockey's puck with other ball/goal sports.  "So if you can keep that ball out and make guys shoot (from distance), that's always a positive," Jackson said. 

Meanwhile, in reaction to the Q and A with Shaq posted a few days back on the Sacramento Bee Kings Blog, a particularly zealous young newsie peppered the available personnel about their reaction to the news that Shaq wouldn't rule out a return to LA in 2010,  Kobe just smiled, and said nothing.  Pressed, he kept smiling and saying nothing.  "I'm going Tiger Woods, totally vanilla."  No way he was going to say anything that might feed the tabloids, so to speak. 

Phil's reaction was equally whimsical.  "He's keeping his options open, huh?"  As for the notion that all the drama was fun, as Shaq proposed, PJ didn't disagree... though I doubt he'd choose today to be totally candid and forthcoming with the media on this issue (i.e. "fun" may not totally be the right word to describe what was going on in the Threepeat era).  "We were having a lot of fun as a team.  I think that was just a laugh and a goof.  That part of it was fun.  2004 got a little tense. That was a tighter time for us." 

For his part, Fish LOL'd and used the question as a way to hustle into the training room ahead of the meeting. 

OTHER NOTES:

  • Vlad Rad, who suffered a thigh contusion Sunday, practiced today and should be good for tomorrow. 
  • On PT:  PJ said LO understands there will be nights, such as Friday's game, where he won't get what seems to be his standard 30-ish minutes of run.  "Ballplayers understand.  When teams are going well, they want to be part of it, but they know that you don't want to slow down something that's positive.  For Luke Walton, who has essentially vanished from the rotation, Jackson acknowledged that it's been a tough adjustment for him.  "I think he understands mentally, but emotionally I think it's real tough.  You want to be out there on the floor.  That's the hard part."
  • Pete Newell, legendary educator of bigs and former Lakers GM, passed away today.  Dr. Buss released the following statement:

“We are deeply saddened to hear of the passing of Pete Newell earlier today,” said Lakers owner Dr. Jerry Buss.  “Pete was one of the most brilliant teachers and coaches the game has ever known, and was also an exceptional front office man as the Lakers General Manager from 1972-76.  He was a great help to me when I first purchased the Lakers and he was very generous with his time and counsel.  In addition to his great contributions to the basketball world, Pete was also one of the finest gentlemen we’ve known.  Our deepest condolences, thoughts and prayers go out to the Newell family.”

Audio and video to follow later (UPDATE: The video is below).

BK


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Comments

Would it be safest to skip the TV tonight, and just listen to the game on the radio?
Posted by: exhelodrvr | November 18, 2008 at 08:28 AM

DAAAAGGGGG! MID-SEASON FORM EX. MID SEASON FORM!

And - BTW - Mamba24 - PLEASE - FOR THE LOVE OF GOD - do NOT break out your
thong just yet. We need to save that spectacle for the play-offs - if and when we get
into trouble. You can't be playing our ace in the hole this early in the season, man!
Posted by: justanothermambafan | November 18, 2008 at 09:01

OH ALLRIGHT! THE HEAD OF THE MAMBACLAN HAS SPOKEN AND I WILL OBEY. LOL!


We could use it everywhere except Utah. i think its illegal there.Posted by:
Fatty | November 18, 2008 at 09:13 AM
I BEG YOUR PARDON SIR! ON NOV. 4 IT WAS VOTED LEGAL IN A LANDSLIDE

Rocky,

"Seriously though, when you put his comments into proper perspective, Mike T is the most entertaining poster on the blog. It's absolutely hilarious the way he gets everyone all worked up in here. That takes a special talent."

Actually I think most folks on here just find him offensive ... kinda like if someone spits in ya face, it just might be a tad bit difficult to show restraint

"If the Lakers were playing that game with any kind of intensity, we would have blown out the Pistons."

Last time I checked this is still the nba ... home of lebron, wade, bosh, iverson, cp3, dirk, duncan etc etc etc ... expecting blowouts is just a tad bit ridiculous


Chick lil sez:

"He's either not going to be effective in a big guy based system or he'll be effective in a small-ball system that will never win anything. But he's not enough to dominate a game anymore."

That's quite a claim. It's early in the season so I can't buy that just yet.

The Suns are still adjusting and trying to get the best medium between the traditional in-out game with Shack, and becoming more fleet footed when he's out. The Detroit game offered the best example of how it can work. Nash fed Shack inside and he dominated, then after Shack got ejected, Nash revved it up and used his great shooting and ability to run the open court O to dominate AI and the Piston D.

I think it will work, and with time it will definitely improve. Nash can accept a limited role if it means gaining an overall advantage. He's not the AI type where he will not be happy if he's not the center of the O.

"...I think most folks on here just find him offensive ... kinda like if someone spits in ya face, it just might be a tad bit difficult to show restraint"-Taliq

I think you're right that people here find him offensive. I also think that it is his intention to be offensive. So it only makes the one who is offended look like a fool.

It's a given that the offendee is a fool.

"expecting blowouts is just a tad bit ridiculous"-Taliq

Maybe you're right about a blowout. But with this Laker team, I think it's a tad bit ridiculous to not expect a dominating victory. The Pistons are good, yes, but the Lakers should be able to dominate them on both ends of the court. Anything can happen on any given day, but these Lakers are a far superior team than the Pistons are right now.

Mamba.

>>>>>POETIC YOU SAY

POETIC YOU ARE. Bring on the Bulls, Larry.

Tom

Mamba,

*******[LAKER FAN WIN OR LOSE I DON’T SING NO BLUES BANDWAGON] **

Now that is a bandwagon that says we believe. Great move, Larry.

Tom

Amazing happens,

>>>Now if they'll just clean up Boston's clawing grabbing
>>>pushing shoving defense, everything will be rectified.

If they called it every time KG held or moved on a screen, he'd
foul out in the first half of every game.

Tom,

Sorry I didn't reply to your post about the different types of bloggers who show up after losses. Got kinda busy with things.

I think you were right that people come here for different reasons, and that some are more vicious than others.

In the "blog maniac's" world, everything revolves around one player, and on philosophical referendum. We've argued about it ad nauseum, and no one wants to continue. It's a free country though.

Peace

Mike T,

>>>I AM THE BLOG!

GOO GOO GA JOOB!

 


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