R.I.P. Don Haskins
Wanted to pay quick respects to the passing of Don Haskins, who died Sunday at age 78. The Texas Western coach will always be remembered for the statement he made by being the first to field a starting five of all black players, a unit that eventually went on to beat powerhouse - and all white - Kentucky for the 1966 national title (and become the basis for the movie "Glory Road"). Haskins took a lot of heat for this lineup, but his resolve and fair-mindedness won out, which opened doors for countless athletes of color to come.
AK








AK
Great timing! I was just about to breakdown film from Luke Waltons basketball camp and suggest refunds for all attendees.
Posted by: chuck23 | September 08, 2008 at 04:54 PM
RIP
Posted by: Faith | September 08, 2008 at 05:06 PM
Props to out of the box thinkers and people too smart to be bigots when bigotry ran MORE rampant!
Posted by: Benjamin | September 08, 2008 at 05:16 PM
Kinda sad...
The Women's Basketball team was perhaps more excited to be in Oprah, yet Oprah only had time to interview the men's. Well Kobe really lol.
Posted by: Faith | September 08, 2008 at 05:37 PM
Wow, Phil and shaq have some things in common.
Both won rings with and without Kobe.
Both at some point in their career didn't like Kobe (shaq still doesn't and who knows Phil probably doesn't neithr)
Both are always crackin jokes to the media ( I believe b/c they have low self esteem).
Both are at the end of their career and not as dominant as before. Yes Phil has 9 rings and shaq has 4, but those things are in their trophy cases and wont be much help for the 09 season.
Players aren't afraid of shaq anymore and coaches aren't afraid of Phil, as a matter of fact I think they welcome the challenge.
and here's the the thing that I think they have the most in common
shaq won't win another championship unless he's playing for the Lakers backing up Bynum.
Phil wont win another ring unless he's coaching ( if thats what you want to call it) Kobe and the Lakers.
Posted by: Magia32 | September 08, 2008 at 05:38 PM
All Bloggers: I try and respond to all bloggers who post to me. If i missed responding or had my post deleted for violating my parole, i apologize.
AK, Long Term, Xodus...Lakergurl too,
thanks for the post from 3 threads ago. i'll again concede that i don't obsess about this stuff, but i do have my opinions.
horry traded to LA: fair
haprer joining LA when Kobe was 21 and had potential or because of PJ: fair
the "fact" still remains, nobody has voluntarily joined the lakers since kobe knocked shaq off the block.
do i have a shaq bias? perhaps.
do i have a kobe bias? absolutely.
do stars (or fading stars) chose to play in LA under the kobe regime? i still say no.
don't you all remember the stars all or the former "greats" riding the shaq/laker bandwagon back in the day? guys like mitch richmond, rider, rodman, malone, payton. if i really wanted to do "research", i could pull up the laker roster from 1996-2004 and name good to star players wanting to ride the shaq/laker bandwagon to championships.
we can debate ad nauseum about this stuff, but the fact still remains? why do stars avoid playing in LA under the kobe regime? please name notable players in the laker org (besides Pau and Fish) joining LA since 2004. let's not forget, fish bailed on kobe when shaq left.
i know about all of the excuses like "salary cap" matters, but i still say that all teams have salary cap issues. how do those teams miraculously get players?
one thought that has eluded me is if "salary cap" issues was such a concern and winning championships was the objective, why piss off shaq in the first place?
you all need to concede that kobe, in his arrogant ways, wanted to exceed jordan and the only way to do that is push shaq out a all cost.
let me repeat: AT ALL COST which means you have to suffer the consequences.
this is no schtick guys and (gurls). sorry if this offends or upsets.
AK: i truly appreciate your comments to me. i know lakergurl loves you kb*iatching me around.
i'm not arguing for argument sakes. all i'm trying to say is that cba rules are challenges. i don't understand the cba rules (nor do i partularly care), but i do understand business and GM's are paid a lot of money to figure these things out.
i'm not convinced that "salary cap" issues are the primary reason good to great players are looking past the kobe lakers.
i firmly believe that "off the record", back-alley deals are made day in and day out in the real world. basketball is no different. i'm certain McHale made the KG deal because KG asked McHale to do so and Ainge asked McHale to do so. it's that simple.
i am willing to concede that jerry west made a deal to send Gasol to the lakers and Gasol didn't object. i will also concede that Gasol could have objected and didn't because he saw that Kobe Version 2008 was different for the better.
Peace in the Middle East LA!
Jon K: love you bro. i'm not the most hated! whew-whew......wait a minute, i'm still hated though......doh!
Posted by: KL | September 08, 2008 at 06:29 PM
i just saw the thread topic and my bad for posting off topic.
Posted by: KL | September 08, 2008 at 06:30 PM
KL,
Vladamir Radmanovich signed with the Lakers the first day of free agency and everyone in the media was raving about how he was going to open up the floor for the Lakers. He's sucked since we had him but it was a big deal at the time.
The only guys that the Lakers have missed out on in years past are washed up veterans who want to play for titles. Well the Lakers clearly weren't a title contender until last season so why would these guys sign with the Lakers and win 45 games instead of signing with the Spurs and contending for a title? If you want to look at it from your view it's because of Kobe and not because we were a young team not expected to contend for a few years. And this offseason we're among the deepest teams in the league and even Ronny who loved playing here asked the Lakers so he could get more playing time in G-State. I know you'll see this as excuses, but this is the reality.
But this is neither here nor there because your original point was guys like Baron Davis didn't sign with LA and now you're changing it to include washed up guys as well since you can't make your original argument stick. And as much as you think GM's are paid to get around stuff like that they can't unless the guy is willing to take the mid-level exception. Period.
Posted by: Xodus | September 08, 2008 at 06:58 PM
KL,
And the best example of what I'm saying is Michael Redd. Lebron is supposed to be a guy everyone wants to play with and a few years ago they had enough cash under the cap to give him a big deal.
Now remember Michael Redd played at Ohio State and the Cavs would have been one of the best teams in the East, yet he re-signed with Cleveland because they could offer him the most money.
That's the point I'm making. Guys in their prime play for the money 99% of the time, even a good guy like Redd. But you never say guys don't want to play with Lebron. The point is your F-U thing is silly and the notion that guys don't want to play with Kobe has no meat behind it.
Posted by: Xodus | September 08, 2008 at 07:03 PM
Pray for the repose of the soul of a person with conviction. I wonder how much criticisms this man endured when he made that daring move. Civil rights protests was prevalent at that time, not only w/ blacks but also with other prejudiced group among brown, jews with the support of northerners. Even at Clark Field Air Force base in the Philippines, protests were daily events. In 1966, the professional leagues like NBA, MBL and NFL have already played black players but it was Coach Haskins who broke the ice in College hoop. A year later was the start of one of the best black sportsman. Guess who? The answer can be seen below.
http://tinyurl.com/6mw9ws
Posted by: Edwin Gueco | September 08, 2008 at 07:05 PM
"i know about all of the excuses like "salary cap" matters, but i still say that all teams have salary cap issues. how do those teams miraculously get players?"
How much the Lakers are over the salary cap:$ 23,431,385
What does the mean?? :O. Simple for every dollar over the cap you have to pay another dollar to the league. That's $23,431,385 to pay to the League office. If you think your taxes are bad look at the Lakers! And that is just to the League, still have to pay federal taxes ha!
How much the Clippers are over the salary cap: $982,858
Payroll of the Clippers: http://tinyurl.com/t7sjh
Because Maggette and Elton Brand bailed on the Clippers and joined other Clubs that had more money (Golden State and Philadelphia), the Clippers had tons of money to sign free agents.
These teams get these free agents by losing and letting their best assets go and have years of not making the playoffs (Golden State and 76ers). Since when do we Lakers want to miss the playoffs?
"i'm not arguing for argument sakes. all i'm trying to say is that cba rules are challenges. i don't understand the cba rules (nor do i partularly care), but i do understand business and GM's are paid a lot of money to figure these things out."
If you understood the business of the CBA/NBA then you would be more easier on Kobe (you can dislike him for all I care) and the notion "free agents aren't coming to us" crap. If you still want to believe that why isn't people going to New York and to be with Mike D'Antoni the one who brought us 7 seconds or less? Or going to Charlotte and be with MJ and Larry Brown? And why isn't players going to Wade (no major free agents for D-Wade)? Hint: they are all over the salary cap with their payroll and hence can only sign free agents with less than 5 million dollars per 5 years. (What kind of "major" free agents wants to sign for that except for aging stars?)
In 2003-2004 plus 1999-2000 the Lakers wanted to get Scottie Pippen. Who pissed him away (KL: KOBE!) Nope not Kobe nor Shaq, it was Jerry Buss who didn't want to pay the "salary" cap. Tons of things are determined by salary cap and that's why there are trades by teams like Philadelphia (The Allen Iverson Trade) that try to get trades to get a major free agent "in the future" and is willing to suffer 3+ of playoff droughts. Fortunately the Lakers are not the 76ers and we try to get not to miss the playoffs, it's bad for business.
There's a ton of things that the simple fan who doesn't wish to know the cap cannot understand when making these kind of accusations.
-blitz
Posted by: thekobebryantblitz | September 08, 2008 at 07:11 PM
KL,
BTW, Fish didn't bail on Kobe when Shaq left he got a ridiculous offer from Golden State that he'd be insane to pass up. Once again, a player going for the money.
Believe it or not, most NBA players aren't asobsessed with Kobe as you are. Your Fisher comment is laughable considering that Fish is probably closer to Kobe than he is to Shaq.
Posted by: Xodus | September 08, 2008 at 07:30 PM
KobeBryantBlitz,
Great post.
Posted by: Xodus | September 08, 2008 at 07:31 PM
JustaLakerFan
>>>>>The one thing not mentioned about the interview was what LakerTom and I have
>>>>>been preaching a long time.
>>>>>Sign AB preferably to near max money or lose him to FA or pay a lot more to
>>>>>keep him. Go back and listen to what he said in regards to if he is signed or not.
>>>>>If he is signed then that is something he will not have to focus on.
>>>>>Now the important words! If they don't then the ball is in my court.
>>>>>I'll translaate for you. Then negotiations are in my court and I will be a free agent
>>>>>and choose who I sign with and for how much.
>>>>>Now do you all want to let AB sniff free agency? I think not.
You are absolutely right, JLF. The Lakers will wrap up Drew before his birthday on October 27th. It’s funny, I wrote a post the other day praising Jim Buss for sticking with Drew when the pressure was on to trade him and made the analogy that it was the same type of move that Jerry made in choosing Kobe over Shaq – the kind of big-time franchise-defining moves that great owners made. Not a peep from the blog. Well, Lakersville, consider yourselves lucky that one of the guys who will be making the decision to sign Drew for a near-max extension will be none other than Jim Buss, the guy who may really deserve the credit for the Lakers drafting and then sticking with the Next Great Lakers Center.
Tom
Posted by: LakerTom | September 08, 2008 at 08:06 PM
Awesome KobeBryantBlitz! Props!
Posted by: Faith | September 08, 2008 at 08:24 PM
DON HASKINS WAS A 60’S ICON…
I had just gotten married the year before and just became a father earlier in 1966, when I watched Don Haskin’s Texas Western team with five black starters defeat Kentucky with its five white starters to win the NCAA basketball championship. The number one selling song that year was The Ballad of the Green Beret. Peace, love, drugs, and rock and roll ruled the world. The times were a changing and Texas Western’s victory was seen as another sign that Dylan was right. The meek were inheriting the earth. Justice was triumphing at last.
I watched the game with several basketball buddies, two of whom were African-Americans.
We all rooted heartily for Texas Western and thrilled as David fell Goliath. But it wasn’t just a victory over racism in our minds, it was real evidence that the Brave New World we were envisioning and marching and rebelling for was really happening. It was heady times for our young egos and we thought we could do anything and everything. The background was the Beatles, the Panthers, the War, the first artificial heart, Blonde on Blonde, Star Trek debuts, John meets Yoko, and Ronald Reagan wins race for Governor of California.
When you think of the barriers Don Haskin’s brought down, you cannot help but be reminded of Barack Obama and the obstacles he is facing as the first African-American running for President. How far we have come since 1966 will have a lot to say about how Obama fares in the coming election. Hopefully, those brave hopes from back in 1966 will triumph again.
Tom
Posted by: LakerTom | September 08, 2008 at 08:36 PM
Tom - very cool framing. Props.
Posted by: dave m | September 08, 2008 at 09:08 PM
Laker Tom:
How Obama does has little if nothing to do with how far we have come!! The race card is always played when people can't face the fact that their candidate's ideas and policies are not in the best interest of the country as a whole instead of a few radical leftist special interest groups. Keep politics off this Laker Blog, you know better than that.
What I do remember about Texas Western was that it was the only team that won a title that wasn't called UCLA in a long run during Wooden's reign that was probably sports' most impressive dynasty.
Posted by: rdlee | September 08, 2008 at 09:09 PM
KL,
"don't you all remember the stars all or the former "greats" riding the shaq/laker bandwagon back in the day? guys like mitch richmond, rider, rodman, malone, payton. if i really wanted to do "research", i could pull up the laker roster from 1996-2004 and name good to star players wanting to ride the shaq/laker bandwagon to championships."
Aside from the fact that you're making a VERY broad assumption that all of these players joined the team 100% to play with Shaq and 100% NOT with Kobe (you know this because...), a few of your examples play fast and loose with history.
Richmond was literally in the last season of his career, would have latched onto any title contender and barely played with the Lakers. It's not like he took a pay cut during his Run-TMC prime. Rodman had already turned into a sideshow by then and eventually got booted from the team. Rider was trying to turn around a downward spiraling career, barely avoided getting booted, and ended up being left off the playoff roster altogether. He was out of the league a season later.
If you're gonna present these guys as prime players with the NBA world at their fingertips who chose the Lakers "because of Shaq," then Kobe should get props for Aaron McKie signing as a free agent. Sure, McKie could barely walk, but he was a former 6th Man of the Year. Kobe also should get credit for Kwame Brown agreeing to a sign and trade to L.A. He may not have been a great player, but he was a former #1 overall pick and got paid handsomely in the deal. Kwame was actually more productive than Rodman, Richmond or Rider when they were with the Lakers. And let's not forget Vlade Divac's second tour of duty. Worthless acquisition, but he was a "name," which is apparently all that counts.
"i'm not arguing for argument sakes. all i'm trying to say is that cba rules are challenges. i don't understand the cba rules (nor do i partularly care), but i do understand business and GM's are paid a lot of money to figure these things out. i'm not convinced that "salary cap" issues are the primary reason good to great players are looking past the kobe lakers."
Respectfully, that you refuse to bother learning about the CBA makes this a pointless discussion. You might as well say "I refuse to learn to why 2+2=4," but I'll keep insisting it equals 5." Your "I understand business" rationale is weak, because every business isn't identical. Just because Mitch Kupchak knows the business of the NBA doesn't make him qualified to be the CEO of 3M, the reasons plainly obvious. Bottom line, if you want to remain oblivious to the rules and in a fantasy land where the cap can always be circumvented if teams "want it bad enough," that's your right. But it also makes debating this a waste of both of our time.
AK
Posted by: Andrew Kamenetzky | September 08, 2008 at 09:14 PM
Well said (as usual) LakerTom. Appreciate the personal insight and story on the topic.
Posted by: Gabe | September 08, 2008 at 09:30 PM
It's a hard road we've travelled as humans, making our way so slowly to this point. The buildings blocks of progress are the skeletons of giants. Those blocks are the men and women who changed, and grew, and saw a better way where guilt and predjudice did not make social decisions.
But ability and determination and love could.
Love the game and you will determine the game according to your ability.
Posted by: Jamie Sweet | September 08, 2008 at 10:36 PM
Helluva post Laker Tom. Helluva post. It made me smile and feel that we are moving forward incrementally, which is better than moving back.
Speaking of Star Trek debuts...I wonder if things happen in waves as much as it seems, and if so, then would society start to speed up as a whole as a result of a general wave movement in the form of progress? By that, I mean, could it be possible that all beings on the planet will start to evolve exponentially faster as a result of our own progress creating a psycho-kinetic wave of progress?
That's all folks.
Posted by: Jamie Sweet | September 08, 2008 at 10:43 PM
Rest In Peace Don, you are one of the true Pioneers in basketball, you may be gone but not forgotten.
Go Lakers.
Posted by: Frankie | September 08, 2008 at 10:47 PM
Aloha K.L
Ak did a great job in responding to you, but I just wanted to add one more theing about the cap. You insist that if a GM wanted to he could get around the cap. Fact is, its been tried before. In 2000 the Timberwolves were a young team trying to build around K.G. they tried to get around the cap by paying Joe smith under the table. Of course they were found out. They were fined 3.5 million dollors and striped of their next 5 first round draft picks. It pretty much destroyed the franchise. Some of the guys they missed out on Tyson Chandler, Pau Gasol, Shane Battier, Yao, Caron Butler, Lebron, Wade, Bosh, Carmelo etc. How good would the T-wolves have been with any of those guys paired with KG?
A lot of the guys that post on the blog are pretty knowledgable. If you want to critique Kobes game, fine. Knock his carachter, o.k. All are subjective. But when you get into the realm of impossibilities, that when you are going to have a whole lot of bloggers jumping on your posts. Cheers.
MH
Posted by: michael h | September 08, 2008 at 10:54 PM
Another point to KL,
"i'm not arguing for argument sakes. all i'm trying to say is that cba rules are challenges. i don't understand the cba rules (nor do i partularly care), but i do understand business and GM's are paid a lot of money to figure these things out. i'm not convinced that "salary cap" issues are the primary reason good to great players are looking past the kobe lakers."
Then why no free agents signed with the Wade Heat or the D'Antoni Knicks? Or the Deron Williams Jazz and the Arenas Wizards? Because they are all over the cap and not a major free agent wants to sign for 5 million usd for 5 years. Lebron wouldn't do it, Wade wouldn't do it, heck even Steve Nash wouldn't want to play for the midlevel exception (you probably don't know what that is so wasting my typing there). Why are the Knicks, Nets, heck even Oklahoma City are losing and getting crappy players? So they can get a good chance at signing free agents like Lebron, Wade, Amare in 2010. Oklahoma when their contracts expried will be $22,324,933 under the salary cap (again i wasted my typing). IF the Thunder (crappy name) keeps going underneath the cap they will have so much money to sign Lebron and Wade to contracts that makes Kobe's contract to look like mere pennies. Why did the Nets trade away Richard Jefferson and instead got an up and down guy like Yi Jianlian? While it gives them a bit more profit to get the Chinese population in nearby New York to try to see more Nets games heck Yi's contract expires around 2009 making a run at Lebron possible. If you think that the salary cap is no issue to players then look at New York. So many players had bad contracts and now they are trying to cut down the number of contracts with a rumored deal to Memphis to get Darko's and Marko's contracts and trade away Zach Randolph's terrible contract. And since you want to relate to Shaq why wasn't VC in Miami last year? "I want VC to Miami" Shaq says but if Shaq was the magnet why was there no trade? Heck it wasn't even VC who was traded it was Jason Kidd to Dallas and now Dallas is paying for the trade.
KL, just say "I HATE KOBE" or even "KOBE SUCKS", at least it will be honest even if you will get flak from the blog. Nothing wrong with hating Kobe and even as a Laker fan its your given right. There are as much Laker fans who hate Kobe as much as there are Cavaliers fans who hates on Lebron and Heat fans who hate on Dwayne. The thing with your so called opinion: It's VERY weak when trying to convince your fellow Laker fans that it's Kobe's fault about this and that. Kobe does have his faults but the logic you use along to justify your opinions without even trying to look up the facts is really *pathetic*. But heck like AK says go on and believe what you want. Just don't show us your flawed opinion if you just want to spew out your thoughts (based on weak logic) about Kobe other than personal issues and not even give a crap to try to understand the issues why we can't sign free agents (hint: it's money not KL's way of thinking). Trying to express your opinions and not even *trying* to find out the facts is even more pathetic.
Thanks Xodus and Faith.
-blitz
Posted by: thekobebryantblitz | September 08, 2008 at 10:55 PM
Okay, let's debate ad nauseum.
>>>don't you all remember the stars all or the former
>>>"greats" riding the shaq/laker bandwagon back in
>>>the day? guys like mitch richmond, rider, rodman,
>>>malone, payton. if i really wanted to do "research",
>>>i could pull up the laker roster from 1996-2004 and
>>>name good to star players wanting to ride the
>>>shaq/laker bandwagon to championships.
And I would agree with pretty much everything you said,
except to change the wording from "the shaq/laker" to
"the Shaq/Kobe/Phil/Laker" bandwagon.
If Shaq and Shaq alone was the draw, then name me some
"greats" who joined a team to be with Shaq BEFORE he
had Kobe playing by his side and BEFORE he had a hall
of fame coach coaching him.
Name one.
You can't. Because there aren't any.
In the four years before he joined the Lakers, and even in
his first year WITH the Lakers and Kobe, not one quality
veteran signed with Shaq's team so that they could play
with Shaq, despite the fact that he was already dominating
the league by his second season.
It was only the combination of Shaq AND Kobe AND Phil
that lured some good veterans to come to the Lakers for
less than they could have made elsewhere.
Do you think any big name players would have taken less
money to play alongside Shaq if Del Harris was coaching
and the other starters were Devean George, Derek Fisher,
Mark Madsen, and Lindsey Hunter?
That's the sort of talent Kobe had around him with Kwame,
Lamar, Smush, and Brian Cook starting.
It was the combination of the best coach and two superstar
players that was the draw. Not just Shaq.
And since I'm absolutely sure you'll bring up Miami...
Shaquille O'Neal, Dwyane Wade, Pat Riley.
Whaddaya know. Two great players and a hall of fame
coach. If it was Ricky Davis at SG and Rick Pitino coaching,
then Shaq wouldn't be drawing any veterans to play with
Miami.
>>>we can debate ad nauseum about this stuff, but the
>>>fact still remains?
The fact remains that most reasonable people give BOTH
Shaq and Kobe credit for the championships (and Phil
Jackson as well), while you insist that Kobe was just along
for the ride.
>>>why do stars avoid playing in LA under the kobe regime?
Let me give you 10 reasons (just to scratch the surface).
Chucky Atkins
Chris Mihm
Jumaine Jones
Brian Grant
Devean George
Smush Parker
Kwame Brown
Luke Walton
Biran Cook
Maurice Evans
Those are the sort of players that Kobe had around him
AS STARTERS. And post Shaq trade, the Lakers were
way over the salary cap, so the most they could offer
any player would be an MLE. Less than 5 million a year
is not enough to play with Kobe and a bunch of scrubs.
Yes they did have Lamar Odom. Not enough draw. And
for one year, they also had Caron Butler, who they threw
away for Kwame.
Veteran stars that go to teams for less money than they
are worth will only do it to join a team that is near championship
level. With that bunch of scrubs, the Lakers were not at
that level. With Shaq, Kobe, and Phil, they were.
>>>please name notable players in the laker org (besides
>>>Pau and Fish) joining LA since 2004. let's not forget,
>>>fish bailed on kobe when shaq left.
I've already pointed out that the "near championship" draw
wasn't there with the players surrounding Kobe in the past.
But now there is that kind of vibe. Let's look at a different
way of answering your question. Who's currently on the
Lakers roster (other than Pau and Fish, whom you've
conveniently excluded from your argument because they
would prove you wrong, of course)?
Trevor Ariza. Could have opted out this summer and likely
would have gotten more than the 3 million the Lakers owe
him in free agency. But he stayed on the Lakers... Kobe's
Lakers.
Andrew Bynum. We'll see if he re-signs. Of course, if
he does, then the next time you ask the quesion, you'll say
"please name notable players (other than Pau or Fish or
Bynum)..." because you ignore examples that prove you
wrong. If Andrew Bynum takes less money to play for
Phoenix, then you will really be vindicated.
Joe Crawford, Jordan Farmar, Sun Yue. All 3 were
drafted, so they had no choice.
Coby Karl, DJ MBenga, Dwayne Mitchell, Josh Powell.
Clearly no chance of ever becoming "notable" players.
Luke Walton. Re-signed with the Lakers without even
trying the free agent market. Took less than MLE money
without even talking to any other clubs.
Lamar Odom. Has been under contract, and whenever
the rumors of him being traded have come up has stated
that he doesn't want to be traded, he wants to stay with
the Lakers. Kobe's Lakers.
Vlad Radmanovic. Signed with the Lakers. Clips owned
his Bird rights, so theoretically could have paid him more,
but he signed without even waiting for an offer from them.
To play for the Lakers. Kobe's Lakers.
Sasha Vujacic. Could have been paid more to play in
Europe. If his agent had been agressive, I'm sure he could
have gotten the same amount of money from one of several
other teams (e.g. Miami paid more to James Jones, who
isn't as good a defender as Sasha). But Sasha mostly
focused on re-signing with the Lakers and took less money
to stay with the Lakers. Kobe's Lakers.
Chris Mihm. Played the free agent market to see if he could
get more than the Lakers were offering. Clearly he must
have wanted to get away from Kobe (in your eyes). But
stayed anyway. He also could have opted out this summer.
And didn't. He stayed with the Lakers. Kobe's Lakers.
And that's it. That's the whole team.
So now, KL, you must make a choice. Are any of those
"notable" players? What is your evaluation of the current
roster?
If you think that none of those players are "notable", then
I'll be happy to gloat over you even more this June when
Kobe wins a championship with Pau, Fish, and a bunch
of insignificant players (in your view).
Or if they are "notable", then we shall see if Lamar and
Bynum follow in the footsteps of Luke, Sasha, Ariza, Mihm,
and Radmanovic and choose to stay with the Lakers...
Kobe's Lakers.
Posted by: Long Time Laker Fan | September 08, 2008 at 11:34 PM
KL,
>>>you all need to concede that kobe, in his arrogant ways,
>>> wanted to exceed jordan and the only way to do that is
>>>push shaq out a all cost.
No. I will gladly concede that you believe that story. But
the truth of the matter is something entirely different.
Dr Buss, Kobe, and Phil all have stated in interviews that it
was nothing like you describe. In fact SHAQ even has
agreed that your view is wrong (I believe his words were
that Kobe was 1000% correct).
Why should we believe your distorted view of the story,
when you had absolutely nothing to do with it and when
every single one of the people who were involved tell
it differently.
You may think that Kobe is a liar, but is Shaq a liar? Is
Jerry Buss? Is Phil Jackson? Are they all badly mistaken
and KL is the only person in the world who knows the
real truth? Somehow I doubt it.
The truth is that Shaq was so arrogant in demanding an
ever increasing salary (he wanted an extension that would
start at 32 million and GO UP EACH YEAR FROM THERE!)
that Dr. Buss decided to get rid of him while he still had
value. It was Jerry Buss' decision to get rid of Shaq, and
he made the decision well before the end of the season
and well before Kobe was a free agent. Buss, Jackson,
Kobe, and Shaq ALL agree on those facts.
In the middle of the 2004 season, Buss had an offer on the
table to Shaq for a deal starting at 24 million. But Shaq
refused to take a pay cut. Ironically, after he signed with
Miami, Shaq agreed to take a deal starting at 20 million from
them so that they would have a little money to sign other free
agents. If he'd have accepted a deal starting at 20 million
from the Lakers, then I'm sure that Buss would have gladly
re-signed him.
It was Shaq's arrogance about money, NOT Kobe's arrogance
about "trying to be like Jordan" which forced Shaq out of the
Lakers organization.
When you decide to accept the way Kobe, Shaq, Buss, and
Jackson tell the story, then you'll start to sound more
reasonable.
Posted by: Long Time Laker Fan | September 08, 2008 at 11:47 PM
Long Time Laker Fan:
VERY NICE ANALYSIS.
-blitz
Posted by: thekobebryantblitz | September 08, 2008 at 11:52 PM
I agree with KL.
Posted by: Otis Campbell | September 09, 2008 at 01:19 AM
Do you people really expect a person to be rational in hatred?
Li Hsiao Loong
Posted by: Li Hsiao Loong | September 09, 2008 at 02:49 AM
To Laker Tom:
Here's an interview you would like to see. Haven't been shown here in the USA since it was on CCTV.
Part 1 Interview
http://tinyurl.com/55bulp
Part 2 Interview
http://tinyurl.com/6bulhc
Feel free to comment. I have work today so I will comment probably later on.
And for other Laker fans.......
Jon K. asked "what have the other Lakers been doing??"
Kobe Bryant=Known (Olympics)
Pau Gasol=Known (Olympics)
Andrew Bynum=Known (Atlanta)
Lamar Odom=Known (resting to heal tendinitis in knees and working out for training camp).
Derek Fisher=Unknown (speculation is spending time with Family especially Tatum Fisher and keeping in shape).
Jordan Farmar=Known (Israel and basketball camp)
Coby Karl=Known (Summer League and working on shot)
Sun Yue=Known (Olympics)
Chris Mihm=Unknown after accepting player option
Josh Powell=Uknown after signing
Joe Crawford=Known (Summer League)
Dwyane Mitchell=Unknown after signing
What about Sasha Vujacic, Vladmir Radmanovich, Luke Walton, and Trevor Ariza?
http://tinyurl.com/5v4e38
or if the Youtube player won't allow you to play it
http://tinyurl.com/6kzr5l
Update on them Laker fans.
All of them at Pauley Pavilion
-blitz
Posted by: thekobebryantblitz | September 09, 2008 at 03:24 AM
Don Haskins did a great thing.
RIP.
Posted by: longtimelakerlover | September 09, 2008 at 07:05 AM
LakerTom,
Loved the post on Western Texas.
Long Time Laker Fan,
Nice analysis.
thekobebryantblitz,
Thanks for the offseason update.
GO LAKERS!
Posted by: Jon K. | September 09, 2008 at 08:30 AM
thekobebryantblitz,
From that link here is my conclusion in terms of offseason work:
Sasha Vujacic: Worked on his shot heavily. He's improved.
Trevor Ariza: Worked on his entire game every day (there's a real fire in his eyes as he spoke, great news.)
Luke Walton: Worked out maybe an hour a day.
Vladimir Radmonovich: Hung out with his family, picked up on girls.
Rad Vlad has really been a disappointment. I was so excited when he was first signed.
GO LAKERS!
Posted by: Jon K. | September 09, 2008 at 08:37 AM
Actually, LakerTom, Obama's race has been, by far, a net positive for him politically. Which in the long run may hurt his political career, because, unrelated to his race, he isn't ready to be President at this point.
Posted by: exhelodrvr | September 09, 2008 at 08:57 AM
Hello again!
Time to quit hibernating, put new batteries in the keyboard, and get back to ripping fools, cracking jokes, and paying due respects.
My blogging mini-camp just opened today, and damn! Just look at the rust! Two or three laps around the dialogue box and I'm winded already...
Laker Tom (the real el Presidente): nice to see your familiar handle. Politics and hoops make a yuck cocktail, but it is nice to see folks involved and passionate about the process. A much more serious question, with much greater importance for all of us, is: Do you believe that the League's incumbent MVP can win reelection this year? Considering that his individual numbers must go way down, since Drew dunking on people will become the obvious 1st option on offense, and with three towers up front, there won't be too many boards left for the little people to get.
That funny looking kid from Canada-via-Santa-Clara, Steve What's-His-Name, managed a re-elect on lower numbers (and fewer wins) a few years back, so there is a precedent set. And how could the voters spurn the leader of a party that is about to win 72 out of 82 possible primaries?
I can't wait to see the "ticket" develop in the coming months: My fellow Americans, we CAN do this. We CAN lead the League in total rebounding differential, per 48 min. rebounding margin, AND net rebounding percentage, because we're deep, we're huge...and we are HUNGRY. We will lead the League in FG% for, AND FG% against! Golden State may average more team steals, and so too may Nawh-Leans, but we will have two players in the top twenty...and we WILL LEAD THE WORLD in blocks, deflections, altered shots, and most of all...INTIMIDATION!
Or something like that.
Politics isn't my bag, baby. I prefer to chill with Jon K over at CIA - the gadgets are pretty cool.
Anyway, I'll be seeing yall soon, and looking to see the other cabinet members and dept. heads when they check in for the season.
Two-a-days are coming, people!
And as much as I tried to stay away...
HIGH CHEESE was really just me...a pseudonym...a word that Let's Go Butt-ler would need to look up...
Love this game,
karyanr
Posted by: karyanr | September 09, 2008 at 08:58 AM
A close friend of mine wrote Glory Road. I congratulated her on introducing that story to new generations and helping secure it's place in history.
Playing basketball on the south side of Chicago in grade school, it didn't seem that monumental to have 5 black guys start since I was surrounded by good black basketball players. The film made me remember it in a different way.
Posted by: Vman | September 09, 2008 at 09:03 AM
Pray for the repose of the soul of a person with conviction. I wonder how much
criticisms this man endured when he made that daring move. Posted by: Edwin Gueco
| September 08, 2008 at 07:05 PM
MAGNIFICENT POST EDWIN!!
Posted by: MAMBA24 | September 09, 2008 at 09:05 AM
Ex/Laker Tom,
For the sake of balance/fairness (I actually didn't see Laker Tom's Obama/Haskins comparison when I put it through, otherwise I wouldn't have), I pushed Ex's response through. If, however, you want to keep debating this on a political level, please make an emailed exchange. Further comments on the topic won't go live.
We've asked people not to get into the election and other such items on the blog unless directly topical. Please honor that request.
Thanks,
AK
Posted by: Andrew Kamenetzky | September 09, 2008 at 09:06 AM
DIDN'T SEE YOUR POST ON HASKINS LAKERTOM
YOUR POST WAS ALSO OUTSTANDING!
Posted by: MAMBA24 | September 09, 2008 at 09:07 AM
Oops, almost forgot...
KL? Are you there, homie? I know it's not cool to kick 'em when they're down - it's my first day back as myself, and I don't want to get flagged for unsportsmanlike, especially after the dismantling that you've already endured...
But pah-leeeeeasssse, dude, for the sweet love of all that is good and holy in the world! Please refrain - Please! - from standing behind an argument that is so ridiculous. I mean, put it out there if you must, but wear a mask and gloves, don't touch anything at the scene, and for gawd's sake don't use your real name.
That being said, don't go anywhere, either. We all drop a stinker every once in a while...
LIMP BIZKIT IS THE GREATEST RAP ARTIST OF ALL TIME!
LOL
karyanr
Posted by: karyanr | September 09, 2008 at 09:08 AM
Actually, LakerTom, Obama's race has been, by far, a net positive for him politically.
Which in the long run may hurt his political career, because, unrelated to his race,
he isn't ready to be President at this point. Posted by: exhelodrvr |
September 09, 2008 at 08:57 AM
Sounds like someone's bitter cause Obama beat him
in a game of Horse last week.
Posted by: Mamba24 | September 09, 2008 at 09:10 AM
LIMP BIZKIT IS THE GREATEST RAP ARTIST OF ALL TIME!
karyanr Posted by: karyanr | September 09, 2008 at
THAT'S JUST PLAIN BULL! EVERYBODY KNOW'S IT'S VANILLA ICE!
Posted by: MAMBA24 | September 09, 2008 at 09:13 AM
Jon K. asked "what have the other Lakers been doing??"
Kobe Bryant=Known (Olympics)
Pau Gasol=Known (Olympics)
Andrew Bynum=Known (Atlanta)
Lamar Odom=Known (resting to heal tendinitis in knees and working out for training camp).
Derek Fisher=Unknown (speculation is spending time with Family especially Tatum Fisher and keeping in shape).
KWAME BROWN = BAKING CAKES
Posted by: | September 09, 2008 at 09:16 AM
karyanr,
Limp Bizkit is the Mark Madsen of rap.
GO LAKERS!
Posted by: Jon K. | September 09, 2008 at 09:24 AM
AK,
Do me a favor and limit exheldovr's political soundbites in the future.
GO LAKERS!
Posted by: Jon K. | September 09, 2008 at 09:25 AM
I HATE KOBE BRYANT!
For setting the bar so high that no other player will ever be able to reach it!
How selfish can any player be! LOL!
Posted by: MAMBA24 | September 09, 2008 at 09:25 AM
blank,
Kwame Brown doesn't bake cakes. He throws them.
Maybe that's the problem. No one told him that you have to workout in the offseason with a basketball. Instead he drives to the bakery, buys a cake, drives home, throws a cake at the backboard at his court in his backyard, then gets back in the car, drives to the bakery while blasting Limp Bizkit in his car ("I DID IT ALL FOR THE NOOKIE! YEAH! YEAH!"), happily singing along, stops off and buys another cake, returns home, throws another cake at the backboard, repeats cycle....
I think that's the problem.
He needs less cake, more actual basketball training.
GO LAKERS!
Posted by: Jon K. | September 09, 2008 at 09:31 AM
Jon K,
I have limited political comments from Ex, along with many other readers. Unfortunately, that one from LT slipped through, so I thought it wouldn't be fair not to allow Ex to respond. I didn't want to create an appearance of bias, since we're looking to avoid comments that lean left or right. Every future reaction on our part with similar situations and comments, by the way, will not always be "tit for tat." I just thought it was appropriate here.
Having said that, it's now done and over. Like I said, if everyone want to discuss politics, feel free. Just do it somewhere else.
AK
Posted by: Andrew Kamenetzky | September 09, 2008 at 09:36 AM
AK,
Fair enough.
GO LAKERS!
Posted by: Jon K. | September 09, 2008 at 09:39 AM
blitz,
Thanks for the links. I had seen the videos before and thought Sun Yue came off very well. He has a good grasp of English and seems to understand that he will have to play a different kind of game to make it in the NBA. I love this kid's potential. He could be a bomb but there is something about how he hustles from behind to block all those shots on fast breaks that reminds me of you know who. At 6-9 with his ball handling and passing skills, he has a chance to be the perfect point guard for the Triangle Offense. Of course, Phil may not be around by then.
Tom
Posted by: LakerTom | September 09, 2008 at 09:40 AM
Long time Laker Fan sez:
"And you would find that Wilt and Kareem had higher PERs
than Shaq."
That's a nice claim and all, but prove it. Til then, SHACK owns the MDE tag among NBA centers.
">>>The Blazers have oden!
At least until his next injury. He and Brandon Roy are
having a contest to see who can show the greatest amount
of potential and play the least number of games.
But I've gotta say, the Blazers' lineup is stacked like pancakes.
Roy, Aldridge, Outlaw, Webster, Frye, Oden, Fernandez.
And good role players like Steve Blake and Joel Przybilla
as well. With a little experience, and some people growing
into their expectations, they're going to have one seriously
good team."
Your synopsis of Oden applies equally to bynumb. Both will have to prove they are worth more than kwame brown, which ain't saying much but that's the level they must reach first before going any further.
The Blazers should scare you. The lakers haven't won a game in Oregon since Clinton left office. Travis Outlaw seems to own kobee every time in Portland, and last season Aldridge gave gasol more than he could handle. Bayless is going to be a stud scorer and Roy overwhelms both Fischer and Farmar.
The Blazers have got the lakers' number, especially now that Nate McMillan has got another kobee-killer in Fernandez.
Posted by: BUTLER | September 09, 2008 at 09:45 AM
AK,
Sorry for the political comment. I will try to restrain myself in the future. I tried to keep the comment general so as not to incite a response but to remind everyone that the issues Haskins fought for are still being fought for today. Anyone who cannot see that is incurably naive, regardless of your political affiliation.
Tom
Posted by: LakerTom | September 09, 2008 at 09:50 AM
KL - other bloggers (and AK) have responded in detail and with accuracy. I just want to put my simple two cents in:
I loved Shaq when he was here, always thought he was the man. However, he's been gone for years now, it's water under the bridge. He and Kobe both behaved badly at times during their tenure and admittedly, Kobe behaved like a spoiled brat last summer. He got roasted plenty for it. Since then he's made enormous strides toward redemption, through action, not words. So why keep beating on it?
I was a Lakers fan long before Shaq and Kobe came into the league and I'll be a fan after they're gone. In the meantime, I tend to focus more on the game than the players' words or personalities and this Kobe kid plays some insane hoops. Glad he's on our team.
Posted by: dave m | September 09, 2008 at 09:54 AM
Jon K,
Just wondering: since you've been the honcho over at the Agency, have your R&D nerds developed a pinky-finger implant? You know, like a micro-pulse taser, or some other device that, when activated, scrambles the defender's motor coordination for a split second?
OR
Even better: a Peggle-Shot-Processor. A micro-computer, implanted in Kobe's new bionic pinky, that uses a laser range-finder, a rim-activated collision avoidance algorithm, UHF doppler radar to map the micro-atmospheric fluctuations inside Staples, a magnetic densitometer that reads the air-pressure inside the ball and calculates adjustments based on a billion data-point histogram of shooting forces and rotational oblateness, and, to coordinate the entire system, a hyper-fast, terra-bit CPU that plots the optimal flight path of the ball and then translates the calculation into a physical action by adjusting the ball's rotational velocity and it's moment-of-inertia upon release.
Now that would be way cool. And if there's anyone that could pull it off...
karyanr
Posted by: karyanr | September 09, 2008 at 09:56 AM
Mamba,
It wasn't my fault. I thought we were playing "Hoarse", not "Horse", so I was saving my best shots and never got a chance to use them. Of course, having Keith Olberman screaming at me the entire time didn't make things any easier.
Posted by: exhelodrvr | September 09, 2008 at 09:56 AM
Just checkin in to see what's what round here.
So let me get this straight...
KL is back?
LGC's is gone?
Dang...I Heart Hollywood!
Posted by: utzworld - THE BANNER HOLDER | September 09, 2008 at 09:58 AM
If you enjoy a good synopsis of what it takes to get Oden (and bynumb) back from their injuries, take a look at today's basketbawful site. . . there's also a gorgeous pic of magic johnson on the home page.
Posted by: BUTLER | September 09, 2008 at 09:59 AM
Of course, having Keith Olberman screaming at me the entire time didn't make things any
easier. Posted by: exhelodrvr | September 09, 2008 at 09:56 AM
OK Now that I can understand. But as I understand it Olberman will have some extra tIme
on his hands maybe he can help you with your shot selection.
Larry(Mamba24)
Posted by: Mamba24 | September 09, 2008 at 10:12 AM
Jon K, Just wondering: since you've been the honcho over at the Agency, have your
R&D nerds developed a pinky-finger implant? Now that would be way cool. And if
there's anyone that could pull it off... karyanr Posted by: karyanr |
September 09, 2008 at 09:56 AM
D@mnit Jon K! You let your secret identity get out!
Posted by: Mamba24 | September 09, 2008 at 10:15 AM
KL is back? LGC's is gone? Dang...I Heart Hollywood!
Posted by: utzworld - THE BANNER HOLDER | September 09, 2008 at 09:58 AM
CarefuL, careful BANNER HOLDER. Next thing you know you will have Steven
THE TRUTH back talking about dirty Panties again. LOL!
Posted by: Mamba24 | September 09, 2008 at 10:20 AM
OC Register:
"Now that Andew Bynum's surgically repaired knee is no longer a problem, the focus switches to his contract extension demands.
Bynum's agent, David Lee, is seeking a five-year deal that could be worth up to $80 million extension. Not bad pocket change.
Bynum said last week he would like to get the deal done soon"
Sure he does.
He wants to cash in before the Lakers find out he's damaged goods.
Posted by: BUTLER | September 09, 2008 at 10:20 AM
Jon K,
When the Lakers FO signed Radman I was very puzzled at the move and I was wondering if they only did it to prevent Radman from re joining the Clippers (which was good and bad) because at the time we already had Brian Cook (Thank Mitch that fool is gone) as a 3 point specialist. While I without a doubt agree Radman is way better than that lazy bum Cook I was really also puzzled we spent an entire mid level exception on him when 1) He was complaining to the former Supersonics about not starting even though he was a good 6th man and 2) That he ate a banana during a timeout on the bench while he was playing for the national time (he got kicked out of the team because of this).
Posted by: thekobebryantblitz | September 09, 2008 at 10:21 AM
karyanr,
Your intuition is spot on. The reason why Kobe has been putting off his pinkie surgery is because we've been finalizing his cybernetic replacement and we've had to make some adjustments so that it will work properly.
You see, the previous model disabled the neurological processes of all opponents within a 10 foot radius for a half second, thus giving the wearer a first step on all opponents. However, the previous model was indiscriminant. By that I mean it would also scramble the neurological patterns of nearby teammates as well, so if Kobe dished the ball off the Pau Gasol, it would simply bounce off his face.
So, the Agency has undergone the painstaking processes of modelling the brain wave patterns of all Lakers and intergrating that information into the upgraded cybernetic pinkie so that they will not be effected by the radiowave/microwave bursts which the cyber-pinkie uses to upset the neurological patterns of opponents.
It's taken a lot of work, but we're almost there and Kobe is really excited by the outcome. Expect a season of triple doubles from triple ocho next year!
However, we also shouldn't expect any more moves from the Lakers front office, because once the parameters are set for the cyber-pinkie, they're set, and any new teammates will be negatively effected by the cyber-pinkie zone of neurological disruptment.
For the Agency to upgrade the cyber-pinkie's parameters to accomodate new teammates, this is something that we'd have to do during an offseason. It's not a simple task. We basically have to break into the teammate's home, sedate them, put them into a specialized computerized neuroprocessing unit, erase their memory, and then leave without a trace. It takes some planning and organization, you know.
Anyhow, we're very close to done. We just have to nab Joey Crawford, in case he makes the team, and then we're done.
Kobe is REALLY excited. The Agency has never seen him so happy.
Next year is going to be a tremendous season. I'd expect a 78 win season next year. It'll be great. There are a lot of Lakers fans within The Agency. I'm glad I'm one.
Just trying to do my part to bring the world a brighter tomorrow.
GO LAKERS!
Posted by: Jon K. | September 09, 2008 at 10:30 AM
Was watching some old clips of Kobe as a pup in the league and it made me wonder...
Does anyone else besides me want to see him bring back the mini-fro?
Also, Luke Walton should bring out the full on jew-fro.
Come to think of it - all the Lakers should grow out some kind of fro. Although, Vlad's Euro-fro got ugly for a while there... http://tinyurl.com/5mvwy6
Ok, scratch that idea. Except Kobe. Kobe needs to bring it back for sure.
Posted by: puddle | September 09, 2008 at 10:32 AM
thekobebryantblitz,
I thought that Rad Vlad would shine as a Laker because as a Clipper Rad Vlad played with competitive fire--something I love in a player.
Then he came to the Lakers and has been a bonehead, first with Park City Gate and then with inconsistent play. It's been frustrating to watch.
It's even more frustrating watching that video and hearing him say the most important thing he did all summer was see his family. Great. Thanks a lot, Vlad. Way to keep your eye on a Championship.
GO LAKERS!
Posted by: Jon K. | September 09, 2008 at 10:33 AM
puddle,
The entire team should go for the fro, including Sasha.
Team Fro = Team Victory.
GO LAKERS!
Posted by: Jon K. | September 09, 2008 at 10:42 AM
Again, it's funny how people see ambition as something to be criticized. Kobe wanted to surpass Jordan... What's wrong with that? Isn't that what America's all about, competition? Why not strive for the best? He didn't do it intentionally to break up the team. All the dumb stuff and carry over from the Colorado trial had lots to do with setting the table for the great implosion. Kobe is to blame, but so is Shaq, Phil and Buss. When it comes down to it, the guy who signs the checks, makes the decisions and he went with Kobe.
I think we've all worked at a job where we didn't get along with a particular person, and a decision had to be made, I go or he/she goes. Or maybe you wanted a new challenge, change of scenery, etc. Yes, even pro athletes have these decisions to make. Most of the time money talks and keeps us in our current situation. Kobe came to this crossroads in 2004 and Buss offered him the keys to the franchise. Was it wrong for him to accept it? I'm sure glad he did.
Brian Grant's contract kept the Lakers from signing a big name for 3 seasons. The players that KL mentioned, except Payton and Malone, weren't all that effective in the big scheme of things. (JR Rider maybe but that guy was a cancer) Payton and Malone came AFTER 3 titles, so to me, they were jumping on the Laker bandwagon, not the Shaq bandwagon. Fisher left for MORE MONEY!! Who wants to join the Lakers now? Well, where are they going to fit in on our team? As is, we're definitely a legit contender this year, anyone who says different just doesn't know the game. First off, they have to be willing to take the little money we have to give, next , they should be able to play in the Triangle, and finally know that they may not be getting the PT they could get on another team. Is this all Kobe's fault, no.
Posted by: JSNV | September 09, 2008 at 10:52 AM
tkbb,
Didn't Vlad sign AFTER the Clips signed Tim Thomas?
Posted by: JSNV | September 09, 2008 at 10:58 AM
Wow, Phil and shaq have some things in common.
Both won rings with and without Kobe.
Both at some point in their career didn't like Kobe (shaq still doesn't and who knows Phil probably doesn't neithr)
Both are always crackin jokes to the media ( I believe b/c they have low self esteem).
Both are at the end of their career and not as dominant as before. Yes Phil has 9 rings and shaq has 4, but those things are in their trophy cases and wont be much help for the 09 season.
Players aren't afraid of shaq anymore and coaches aren't afraid of Phil, as a matter of fact I think they welcome the challenge.
and here's the the thing that I think they have the most in common
shaq won't win another championship unless he's playing for the Lakers backing up Bynum.
Phil wont win another ring unless he's coaching ( if thats what you want to call it) Kobe and the Lakers.
Posted by: Magia32 | September 08, 2008 at 05:38 PM
===========================
Great post. Glad more ppl are not worshipping at the PJ zen altar. Glad you have to courage to state your point of view.
Posted by: JustaLakerFan | September 09, 2008 at 11:11 AM
JSNV,
Nope. The Lakers signed Radman on July 1,2006 for $31 Million (The Full Mid level exception) for 5 years. Tim Thomas was signed by the Clippers on July 13, 2006 for $24 Million for 4 years (same price as Radman except for one less year). Radman had originally appeared to sign with the Clippers but jumped ship and instead joined the Lakers. To counter this loss, the Clippers signed Tim Thomas 12 days later from the Phoenix Suns. However, neither player really panned out to become their full potential.
-blitz
Posted by: thekobebryantblitz | September 09, 2008 at 11:11 AM
JustaLakerFan
>>>>>The one thing not mentioned about the interview was what LakerTom and I have
>>>>>been preaching a long time.
>>>>>Sign AB preferably to near max money or lose him to FA or pay a lot more to
>>>>>keep him. Go back and listen to what he said in regards to if he is signed or not.
>>>>>If he is signed then that is something he will not have to focus on.
>>>>>Now the important words! If they don't then the ball is in my court.
>>>>>I'll translaate for you. Then negotiations are in my court and I will be a free agent
>>>>>and choose who I sign with and for how much.
>>>>>Now do you all want to let AB sniff free agency? I think not.
You are absolutely right, JLF. The Lakers will wrap up Drew before his birthday on October 27th. It’s funny, I wrote a post the other day praising Jim Buss for sticking with Drew when the pressure was on to trade him and made the analogy that it was the same type of move that Jerry made in choosing Kobe over Shaq – the kind of big-time franchise-defining moves that great owners made. Not a peep from the blog. Well, Lakersville, consider yourselves lucky that one of the guys who will be making the decision to sign Drew for a near-max extension will be none other than Jim Buss, the guy who may really deserve the credit for the Lakers drafting and then sticking with the Next Great Lakers Center.
Tom
Posted by: LakerTom | September 08, 2008 at 08:06 PM
===============================
LakerTom.
Thanks for the sentiment and view. It really makes me scratch my head when so many bloggers want to disparge a young talent franchise player in the making. Even more confusing is attacking you especially for being optomistic about AB. They remain silent when the facts are staring them in their face.(referring to AB's words and your optomism) And defending ways to low ball this talented kid.
I saw your post and agree.
As I see it, for the Laker organization I hope they get the home court avantage and sign for as low as they can w/o disrespecting AB.
For AB I want to see the kid get what he deserves for all his hard work.
As a Laker fan I hope both sides meet at a mutually satisfactory compromised agreement that both sides are happy with.
Thanks LakerTom for your upbeat views and keep up the good work. State your opinions proudly and don't let the negative naysayers tear you down.
Posted by: JustaLakerFan | September 09, 2008 at 11:22 AM
Great posts fellow bloggers. Great job AK/BK of running the show. I'm a long time reader of this blog and occasional contributor. I think I am pretty much addicted to all the Laker talk, NBA talk and everything else that goes on, specially anything basketball related (which most of it is anyways).
Couple of days ago there was quite a bit of debate about who's better between Shaq and Hakeem. Being a Laker fan, I loved Shaq during the three-peat but I still think that Hakeem was the more skilled and a way better all round player than Shaq can ever 'dream' of.
The main reason I bring this whole thing up again is because I just ran into some highlights in YouTube of Shaq getting schooled by Hakeem in the 1995 Finals. Just look at the moves that Hakeem lays on Shaq - simply unstoppable...the Dream Shake, the up & under, the jump hooks, the drives, the mid-range game - even the Shaq of the 3-peat years could not have stopped the Dream. And of course, Hakeem was a way better defender than Shaq ever was. Here's the Top 10 Dream Moments of the 1995 Finals:
http://tinyurl.com/6klmee
Enjoy!
RG
Posted by: RG | September 09, 2008 at 11:30 AM
>>>Kobe Bryant=Known (Olympics)
>>>Pau Gasol=Known (Olympics)
>>>...
>>>
>>>KWAME BROWN = BAKING CAKES
Smush Parker = waxing the Smushcalade
Brian Cook = (more) matador lessons
Posted by: Long Time Laker Fan | September 09, 2008 at 11:38 AM
BUTLER
>>>Your synopsis of Oden applies equally to bynumb. Both
>>>will have to prove they are worth more than kwame
>>>brown, which ain't saying much but that's the level they
>>> must reach first before going any further.
As it happens, this is an area where you and I agree. Bynum
has already shown more talent than Kwame Brown, but he hasn't
shown enough talent and consistent health to warrant a
max contract yet and I've said so here several times (ask Laker Tom).
I think both Oden and Bynum will turn out to be great
players if they can stay healthy. In fact, I think each of
them has the capability to turn out better than Dwight
Howard if they keep working hard and if they stay healthy.
Posted by: Long Time Laker Fan | September 09, 2008 at 11:42 AM
utzworld,
>>>So let me get this straight...
>>>
>>>KL is back?
>>>LGC's is gone?
>>>
>>>Dang...I Heart Hollywood!
You never see them at parties together...
I'm just sayin'
Posted by: Long Time Laker Fan | September 09, 2008 at 11:44 AM
ExHelo,
Well said!
Posted by: Eric M. | September 09, 2008 at 11:46 AM
Luke definitely needs to rock a fro and a headband. Think Will Farrell in that basketball movie. It could be the greatest thing to happen to the Lakers since Kurt Rambis blessed us with his mustache.
Lamar = Laker for Life
GO LAKERS
Posted by: mrbarneydangles | September 09, 2008 at 11:46 AM
Thanks LakerTom for your upbeat views and keep up the good work. State your opinions
proudly and don't let the negative naysayers tear you down. Posted by: JustaLakerFan
| September 09, 2008 at 11:22 AM
How you doing JustaLakerFan. Good Post!
I second that! Thanks LakerTom. Keep on doing what you do!
Posted by: Mamba24 | September 09, 2008 at 11:49 AM
No Surgery for Kobe!!!!!
https://www.kb24.com/news/article/715.html
T-Woody
Posted by: TWoody | September 09, 2008 at 11:56 AM
September 09 :: 2008
KB24.com exclusive :: Update on Kobe's injured pinkie
After seeking numerous opinions from hand specialists, Lakers guard Kobe Bryant has decided to forgo surgery on his right pinkie. Fresh off his Olympic Gold Medal performance in Beijing, Bryant expressed that he did not want to miss any time on the court when Lakers training camp opens later this month.
"I have always felt that I can still focus and play at a high level even through various injuries. Thatss really just part of the game. When the doctors told me recovery from a procedure could be 12 weeks, I just decided now was not the time to have surgery. What it really came down to for me is that I just didn't want to miss any time 'punching the clock' for the Lakers, given all we are trying to accomplish as a team this NBA season. I am just really excited and looking forward to being there with the guys when camp opens in a few weeks. That is a real bonding process and if I can avoid being on the sidelines for that, God willing, I will," said Bryant.
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Big deal 04.24.07 :: New wallpaper: Kobe throws it down 04.24.07 :: KB's shoe schedule 04.24.07 :: Prepping for Game 2 04.24.07 :: Kobe: 'Warriors respecting warriors' 04.24.07 :: Kobe All-Star Vinyls - SOLD OUT 04.23.07 :: Post-practice quotes from KB 04.23.07 :: Game 1 reaction 04.22.07 :: New LD2k playoff video: Eclipse Of The Sun 04.22.07 :: Kobe's footwear schedule 04.20.07 :: New Zoom Kobe II colorways 04.20.07 :: Lakers/Suns: Series keys 04.20.07 :: Straight Bangin' comes around 04.20.07 :: The book on the Lakers 04.19.07 :: Kobe wins second consecutive scoring title 04.19.07 :: Represent 04.19.07 :: LeBron: Kobe is my MVP 04.19.07 :: Lakers clinch 7th seed, will play Suns on Sunday 04.18.07 :: Playoff scenarios: Who will Lakers play? 04.17.07 :: The latest from hZm Designs 04.17.07 :: Phil Jackson: Kobe gets my MVP nod 04.16.07 :: LD2k & oDoM7 present "Rise To The Top" 04.16.07 :: The 24 Experience 04.16.07 :: KB's 50 puts Lakers in postseason 04.13.07 :: The Warrior Within 04.12.07 :: Kobe on Nike's HOOPSTALK 04.12.07 :: Game night: Lakers' magic number is 2 04.11.07 :: Video: An international flavor 04.11.07 :: Video recap: A day with Kobe 04.11.07 :: Kobe tells Coach K, "I'm ready to go" 04.11.07 :: Kobe live on the Adam Carolla show 04.10.07 :: Kobe Basketball Academy registration begins Wed., April 11 @ 9am 04.09.07 :: Game night in Denver 04.09.07 :: Kobe answers fan questions on HOOPSTALK 04.06.07 :: Kobe Basketball Academy 04.06.07 :: Lakers/Sonics tonight 04.05.07 :: Kobe answers your questions 04.05.07 :: Playoff race is heating up 04.03.07 :: Got questions for Kobe? 04.03.07 :: KB reaches out to 'Melo 04.02.07 :: 24 for 24, hosted by #24 04.02.07 :: Kobe's 13 assists lead Lakers to victory March 2007 ------------------------------ 03.30.07 :: The creative "Kobeheads" 03.30.07 :: More fan pics of Zoom Kobe IIs 03.30.07 :: Who'll guard Kobe tonight? 03.29.07 :: Fans show off their Zoom Kobe IIs 03.29.07 :: "This is what a leader does." 03.28.07 :: Zoom Kobe II update 03.28.07 :: "You can never be satisfied" 03.28.07 :: Mashburn: Kobe is the MVP 03.28.07 :: Kobe: 'flush it' 03.28.07 :: Zoom Kobe II: A sneak peek 03.27.07 :: Kobe attends world premiere of "Grindhouse" 03.27.07 :: Chris Webber: Kobe's the best, by far 03.27.07 :: "I couldn't stop smiling" 03.26.07 :: "We held him to 43, by God," 03.24.07 :: Kobe and Wilt 03.23.07 :: Flea sums it up perfectly 03.23.07 :: Witnessing greatness 03.22.07 :: The greatest scorer ever? 03.22.07 :: Stu Lantz on KB's drive 03.22.07 :: Game night in Memphis 03.22.07 :: "...just completely false" 03.20.07 :: LD2k: Vengeance 03.20.07 :: More records fall 03.20.07 :: Kobe's jersey sales top China, too 03.19.07 :: Kobe: Player of the Week 03.19.07 :: We have a new scoring leader 03.16.07 :: Kobe gets nomination 03.16.07 :: Did you know... 03.15.07 :: Pregame in Denver 03.12.07 :: NBA targets Kobe again 03.12.07 :: Kobe goes back to school 03.09.07 :: Pep talk 03.09.07 :: Kobe returns to Philly tonight 03.08.07 :: Fan content of the week 03.08.07 :: Fans in Wisconsin react 03.08.07 :: Kobe's side of the story 03.07.07 :: Kobe reacts to suspension 03.07.07 :: Breaking news: Kobe suspended tonight 03.07.07 :: No rest: Road trip continues 03.06.07 :: Game night in Minnesota 03.05.07 :: The glass is half full 03.02.07 :: Weekend notebook 03.01.07 :: MVP debate February 2007 ------------------------------ 02.28.07 :: If the playoffs started today... 02.27.07 :: Win boosts Lakers' confidence 02.26.07 :: Back on the winning track 02.23.07 :: 'A bump in the road' 02.22.07 :: Kobe on Kidd and more 02.22.07 :: Video: Kobe Celebrates Black History Month 02.22.07 :: Trade deadline today 02.21.07 :: Game night: Portland in town 02.20.07 :: Kobe roundup 02.18.07 :: Kobe wins 2nd all-star MVP award 02.18.07 :: Kobe's new shoe and All-Star Saturday 02.15.07 :: Watch Kobe sign 02.14.07 :: Who's the MVP? 02.14.07 :: Knicked by the Knicks 02.13.07 :: Knicks in town tonight 02.12.07 :: Like father, like son 02.12.07 :: One positive about the road trip 02.11.07 :: Road trip ends today in Cleveland 02.09.07 :: Kobe, Lakers look to rebound tonight 02.08.07 :: Lakers anxious to see Detroit's zone "D" 02.07.07 :: "We had to put on a show for Kobe" 02.06.07 :: Kobe, meet Cobe 02.06.07 :: Kobe heats up late; Lakers win in Atlanta 02.05.07 :: Judge Bryant 02.05.07 :: Game night in the ATL 02.02.07 :: Life on the road 02.02.07 :: Walking the right path 02.02.07 :: Mamba from half court... 02.01.07 :: Kobe: "Animal Planet" inspires Nike Zoom Kobe II Strength January 2007 ------------------------------ 01.31.07 :: Kobe returns with a vengeance 01.31.07 :: Bynum, Farmar will join Kobe in Vegas 01.31.07 :: Game night in Boston 01.31.07 :: Final mention of "the" play 01.30.07 :: Update: Kobe's appeal denied 01.30.07 :: Kobe fights back 01.30.07 :: Kobe, Wade and more in Skills Challenge 01.30.07 :: Kobe reacts 01.30.07 :: Breaking news: Kobe out tonight vs. New York 01.29.07 :: Good cop/bad cop 01.26.07 :: Lakers as darkhorse 01.26.07 :: Game night vs. Charlotte 01.25.07 :: All-star starters announced 01.25.07 :: All the way from Australia 01.25.07 :: "You shop?" 01.25.07 :: Lamar likely to start Friday 01.24.07 :: Vital information for 24 Store customers 01.24.07 :: Kobe: Odom looks "really, really good" 01.23.07 :: The Second Coming interview 01.23.07 :: 81: one year later 01.22.07 :: "The second coming" 01.22.07 :: Happy Anniversary 01.19.07 :: Tough loss in Dallas, but... 01.19.07 :: Jackson praises Kobe's transformation 01.18.07 :: Your Kobe collections 01.18.07 :: Flash back to January 22, 2006: Kobe scores 81 01.18.07 :: Lakers make a statement 01.17.07 :: Game night in San Antonio 01.16.07 :: On the scene... 01.16.07 :: Greg Anthony on Kobe vs. Wade 01.16.07 :: Lakers get OT win vs. Miami 01.15.07 :: Happy MLK Day 01.15.07 :: WHY81 01.15.07 :: Rivalry resumes tonight 01.13.07 :: Kobe, Parker fuel victory 01.12.07 :: Game night vs. Orlando 01.11.07 :: All-Star update 01.11.07 :: Fan video of the week 01.11.07 :: Houston 102, Lakers 77 01.10.07 :: Kobe's "24" tops NBA jersey sales 01.10.07 :: Third quarter dooms Lakers 01.07.07 :: Streakbusters 01.07.07 :: Best in the West? 01.05.07 :: Good to be back 01.05.07 :: Kobe as "elder statesman" 01.05.07 :: Lakers 132, Kings 128 (OT) 01.04.07 :: Kobe: Balance is key 01.03.07 :: Movin' on up 01.02.07 :: Kobe named WC Player of the Month 01.02.07 :: Look who's coming back 01.01.07 :: A win to close out the year December 2006 ------------------------------ 12.30.06 :: Kobe scores 58 before record crowd in Charlotte 12.29.06 :: Road trip ends tonight in Charlotte 12.28.06 :: Lakers 106, Magic 93 12.26.06 :: Heat 101, Lakers 85 12.25.06 :: Merry Christmas 12.22.06 :: Busy "off day" 12.22.06 :: Game night vs. New Jersey 12.21.06 :: Another LD2k *exclusive* 12.21.06 :: Huge 4th leads Lakers to 111-94 win 12.20.06 :: Chicago 'D' slows Lakers 12.19.06 :: Road trip kicks off in Chicago 12.17.06 :: Kobe scores 45; Wizards take 147-141 OT win 12.16.06 :: Lakers win double OT thriller 12.15.06 :: Game night vs. Rockets 12.14.06 :: All-star voting update 12.14.06 :: Mavericks 110, Lakers 101 12.13.06 :: "The Kobe Rules" 12.13.06 :: Lakers 102, Rockets 94 12.12.06 :: Game night in Houston 12.11.06 :: "Real-life superheros" 12.11.06 :: 2007 Kobe Bryant Basketball Academy 12.11.06 :: Whole 'lotta love 12.11.06 :: Third quarter's a charm 12.09.06 :: A career night 12.08.06 :: LD2k's exclusive video release 12.08.06 :: Game night vs. Atlanta 12.07.06 :: Kobe on Rome is Burning 12.07.06 :: Hornets surprise Lakers in Staples 12.06.06 :: Ankle update 12.06.06 :: Best quarter ever? 12.06.06 :: Game night: Hornets in town 12.05.06 :: Kobe 12.05.06 :: Show us what you've got 12.05.06 :: Kobe injured in Lakers win 12.04.06 :: Game night vs. Pacers 12.01.06 :: New videos 12.01.06 :: 52 pickup November 2006 ------------------------------ 11.30.06 :: Payback time? 11.29.06 :: Shaw compares Kobe, Bird 11.29.06 :: Bucks win a stunner 11.28.06 :: Can't ignore him any longer 11.28.06 :: Game night vs. Bucks 11.27.06 :: Happy Birthday, Chick 11.27.06 :: Lakers 99, Nets 93: Pick your poison 11.25.06 :: Utah rally sinks Lakers 11.23.06 :: Happy Thanksgiving 11.22.06 :: "The inventor" 11.21.06 :: Battle of L.A. 11.20.06 :: Rosen: Kobe sets the tone 11.20.06 :: "It's a beautiful relationship" 11.20.06 :: Phil gets his hands dirty 11.18.06 :: 17k 11.17.06 :: Oh, Canada 11.16.06 :: Top 50 players 11.16.06 :: Kobe responds; Mihm on the shelf 11.15.06 :: The running game is back 11.15.06 :: Flea on the "two-headed monster" 11.15.06 :: Taking advantage of the break 11.14.06 :: Get out the vote 11.14.06 :: Last 8 wrapup 11.13.06 :: The poetry of Flea 11.13.06 :: 1-2 punch 11.12.06 :: Game night vs. Memphis 11.10.06 :: Kwame's back 11.09.06 :: Portland jinx 11.08.06 :: Young gun 11.07.06 :: The Last 8 11.07.06 :: The time is now 11.06.06 :: Kobe's top-25 11.06.06 :: Sonics get their revenge 11.03.06 :: Lakers win in No. 24's debut 11.03.06 :: Game night 11.02.06 :: 2-0 11.01.06 :: Lights Out October 2006 ------------------------------ 10.31.06 :: Kobe feeling "really, really good" 10.29.06 :: Old school vs. new school
Posted by: LALAKERLOVER | September 09, 2008 at 11:57 AM
Twoody,
Thanks for the link. That was an unexpected turn of events.
Posted by: Xodus | September 09, 2008 at 11:59 AM
Wow. He's not getting the surgery. I'm both impressed by his desire to bond with his teammates and concerned about how this could affect his game long-term.
Wow.
GO LAKERS!
Posted by: Jon K. | September 09, 2008 at 12:20 PM
Umm either the dude is faking the injury or he's just plain crazy. I dont really care so long as there's little to no chance that this will lead to surgery in the middle of the season.
Like I seriously hope this aint a case of "holy cr*p", the fingers been made worse by not getting surgery initially so now what would have taken 1 month to recover (as initially reported) will now take 3 months (as his website claims) and therefore I will just not own up to my stupidity and continue along the same road until the finger drops off, after all I am kobe, I can do it all.
And this is why he gets bad press, like seriously who is the pr dummy that handled this whole situation. You dont have the world thinking you're about to announce a date only to tell us you wont get it now. Nobody likes surprises, anywho I just hope he's really healthy. That finger aint his, the lakers pay good money for it and he should take better care of it. All in favor of cutting of his remaining fingers if this decision means he gets seriously hurt and F's up our dynasty say ... Yay.
Posted by: Taliq | September 09, 2008 at 12:21 PM
blitz,
Thanks for the clarification. Regardless, he's still a disappointment. I really knew it when he came out with the funky braids in Seattle. Going to the Clippers didn't help me like him either. I'd like to stay positive with this guy, but he is who he is and he only "plays hard" when his shot is falling.
Posted by: JSNV | September 09, 2008 at 12:33 PM
Long Time sez:
"I think both Oden and Bynum will turn out to be great
players if they can stay healthy. In fact, I think each of
them has the capability to turn out better than Dwight
Howard if they keep working hard and if they stay healthy."
That's a big if - but every playa has to face that I suppose.
What it comes down to is the playas' respective maturity and willingness to go through the demoralizing pain of rehab in order to strengthen the injuries and thus regain the ability to play aggressively without fear.
Check out the site basketbawful dot com, and there's an interesting story about Oden's rehab compared to Amare's. And then you might want to take a look at azcentral dot com for the new Amare article. He explains his decision to withdraw from the Olympics (rest and health).
I'm glad Amare did abstain from Beijing. A gold is nice, but not at the expense of a shortened career or more wear and tear on a surgically repaired knee right before the NBA season. We can ask spurs fans about that one.
Best of luck to bynumb, it'd be great to see him suit up. SHACK vs. bynumb will be great theater.
Posted by: BUTLER | September 09, 2008 at 12:37 PM
A question for any blogger out there:
It's a big what if...
If The Almighty gave you a choice: either the Lakers go for 75 wins, sweep the playoffs, take home the title, AND your preferred candidate loses the upcoming election in a landslide
OR
Your preferred candidate runs the table, your party gains seats in both houses, BUT the Lakers are riddled by injuries, and limp home at 40-42 and miss the playoffs
What would you choose?
Hmmmm...
karyanr
Posted by: karyanr | September 09, 2008 at 12:37 PM
JSNV,
>>>Didn't Vlad sign AFTER the Clips signed Tim Thomas?
Nope. The Lakers called Vlad at 12:01 on the first day they
could make contract offers and offered him the full MLE and
told him that he'd probably get to start.
Thomas was a reaction move by the Clippers to back-fill
Rad's position.
Posted by: Long Time Laker Fan | September 09, 2008 at 12:56 PM
Karyanr,
That's easy. Country before self. Gotta take the election.
Posted by: Eric M. | September 09, 2008 at 01:09 PM
>>>Your preferred candidate runs the table, your party
>>>gains seats in both houses, BUT the Lakers are riddled
>>>by injuries, and limp home at 40-42 and miss the
>>>playoffs
I'll take the elections. The Lakers can recover from their
injuries and try again next year. If the election is lost, then
the country is screwed for four more years.
Posted by: Long Time Laker Fan | September 09, 2008 at 01:27 PM
too all who responded: thanks for the posts. i suppose we have to agree to disagree.
simple question on salary cap: can a team go over the cap?
that's how you make 2+2=5, or put another way, one can say, i want the answer to be 5, how do i get there?
back to work.
Posted by: KL | September 09, 2008 at 01:37 PM
KL,
"simple question on salary cap: can a team go over the cap? that's how you make 2+2=5, or put another way, one can say, i want the answer to be 5, how do i get there?"
Unless it's a case of resigning your OWN free agents to an unlimited amount of money, or using the Mid-Level exception, Bi-Annual exception (1.8 Mil) or the vet's minimum (and the VM, BAE and MLE CANNOT be combined into one lump sum) to sign another team's FA, or signing your rookies, you cannot, under any circumstances, go over the salary cap. Period. It's against league rules.
If you can figure out a "2+2=5" situation out of those circumstances, you're apparently smarter than every GM in the league. Not to mention David Stern, since you'll have gotten him to approve a trade that's likely illegal.
AK
Posted by: Andrew Kamenetzky | September 09, 2008 at 01:47 PM
Thanks LakerTom for your upbeat views and keep up the good work. State your opinions
proudly and don't let the negative naysayers tear you down. Posted by: JustaLakerFan
| September 09, 2008 at 11:22 AM
How you doing JustaLakerFan. Good Post!
I second that! Thanks LakerTom. Keep on doing what you do!
Posted by: Mamba24 | September 09, 2008 at 11:49 AM
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Thanks for the props Mamba24.
I am ok and expect you are as well but mainly keep up your humor as most all love your attitude and humor. Post wisely my friend as you always do.
GHeck I even borrowed one one your lines in a debate and it worked perfectly to keep tension down.
You are the best along with LakerTom and others too numerous to mention.
Posted by: JustaLakerFan | September 09, 2008 at 04:23 PM
AK, i think you have successfully convinced me. bravo.
Posted by: KL | September 09, 2008 at 04:42 PM