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The Lakers get in the Josh Powell business

August 14, 2008 |  5:41 pm

I heard some chatter, but wanted to wait until getting official word from the Lakers before posting anything.  Said e-mail has since arrived, so it's now a part of the blogosphere.  Not sure what the contract terms are, but if I had to guess, we're talking league minimum, one year, guaranteed.  Of course, this is just me spitballing, so take this with a grain of salt until confirmed.

The biggest winner in all of this may be Powell who, aside from getting a job, played in 2008 with the Clippers, meaning if he hasn't vacated his L.A. residence, no moving day!  In terms of what the Lakers get, keep hope alive for a pleasant surprise, but also retain modest expectations.  Powell's stint at Staples constituted his fourth team in three seasons (making his Lakers duty the fifth team in four years, for you mathematicians in the crowd).  Going by the limited glimpses I've seen of his limited career minutes, I picture Powell being a decent enough replacement for Ronny Turiaf, although possibly not as effective and definitely not as big.  Powell is young, plays with energy and in the biggest minutes of his career last season, pulled down more than a respectable share of boards. On the flip side, Turiaf scored more points in fewer minutes and is a much better shot blocker.  I'll also go out on a limb and bet Turiaf is more entertaining while on the bench. 

Either way, decent signing, although in terms of filling a true "body" need, I'm not sure how much (if at all) it helps.  If Andrew Bynum and Chris Mihm encounter any health setbacks, I don't see Powell, unless he's gained a lot of weight, fitting that bill.  Fingers crossed, they won't have to find out.

AK


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Sun Yue will become Magic Johnson when he joins the Lakers. If you are worried about his bulk, that's easy, the In & Out burgers alone will make him as big a Magic. I did not say he will be good as Magic but there is always room for expansion horizontally.

There is no way for Farmar to grow vertically at 6'9". So if talents are equal in a year's time, the advantage is on Yue (Is it pronounced as Yoo' or Yu-weh.? What I know they pronounced the vowels: a-e-i-o-u in chinese).

A Beatle song will become a threat to Farmar, remember the tune of that song:

"Here comes the sun, here comes the sun,
and I say it's all right

Little darling, it's been a long cold lonely winter
Little darling, it feels like
years since it's been here
Here comes the sun, here comes the sun
and I say it's all right.........."

Wow. Josh Powell. I remember watching some Clipper games last season and thinking "why can't the Lakers get a banger like that?" I saw him rebound with authority against some solid opposing front lines and more than hold his own. He is definitely better than Ronny at this time, although Ronny will still continue to develop his game with more playing time.

Roger B.

Can someone tell me which channel carries the game tomorrow morning???

man, I don't know what you guys are talking about. What do you see in Coby Karl? Forget that he's a nice guy, what does he bring ON THE COURT? Defense? Are you kidding me? He's a 3 point specialist, he's not a Luke Walton type facilitator. What do we need him for?

DJ Mbenga, same thing. This dude is an absolute spaz. Have you watched him try to set a pick? His legs are all over the place. You know... there's a reason we got him off waivers...

This Josh Powell. I really don't know much about him but I certainly don't expect any real minutes out of him. We've got Bynum, Mihm (say even 10-15 minutes/game) and Gasol rotating around at Center. At PF you have Gasol starting, Odom probably rotating up, Radmanovic and Walton can also rotate up so if we need a guy to come in and foul for 10 minutes, Powell will be the guy, otherwise, when is he going to play unless it's a blowout?

From what the Lakers have said, it would appear Sun Yue is mostly going to be playing in the SG slot, which would make sense since in his first season here, he won't have the leg strength to stay in front of the faster PG's in the league.

What else? Oh yeah, Mitchell. From what I've seen, the Lakers are looking at him for defensive relief.

If you look at that logjam, WHERE does Coby Karl fit in? SG - behind Kobe, Sasha, Mitchell for some defense and possibly Ariza and Yue, or at SF with Kobe, Ariza, Odom, Walton and Radmanovic vying for minutes at that spot?

If Coby Karl makes the team, then we're making a trade.

LakerTom,

He seemed to move well in the game against the US. His range is good, but not great, and that's pretty much all I can say about him. I hope to see him play a lot in the preseason to get a better gauge of his skill level.

Does anyone know if buying NBA league pass will include preseason games?

Edwin Gueco:"Here comes the sun, here comes the sun,
and I say it's all right"

WELL I'LL BE.......Edwin the Folk singer. SING IT EDWIN!!! LOL!

KEIFO IN THE HOUSE. THE GAMES ON NBC I THINK IT'S AT 9:00

LAKERTOM I'll say it again you are one LUCKY MAN!!

Pig "Miller": Larry, You are crazy. Dream Team always.

You just now realizing that Pig. LOL! Just playing devils
advocate to stir up some posts. My Therapy session is in
2 hours. LOL! How you been brothe?

Larry(Mamba24)

To the person who praised Mike Dunleavy's GM ability a while back, I have two words for you:

Yaroslav Korolev

You may now return to your regular Pau-bashing, already in progress.

PS The Lakers got Bynum at #10, and the Clippers took Koralev two picks later. Danny Granger fell to the Pacers several picks later. Imagine the gnashing of teeth if Mitch had taken the future manager of the Moscow Starbucks in Red Square.

Edwin Guerco,

"Sun Yue will become Magic Johnson when he joins the Lakers."

Dude, you're smoking crack.

By the way, with the Long Bataan Death March references I've made in the past, I wasn't trying to make fun of the Long Bataan Death March--that was a horrific event. I was trying to make fun of myself and other bloggers by overinflating my/our suffering during this offseason. The offseason isn't that bad, but sometimes through our Laker addict histrionics we make it seem so.

GO LAKERS!

Sonnybelfast,

What's your take on the whole Artest as a King thing?

GO LAKERS!

Mamba,

>>>>>Me thinks Mrs. LakerTom is a smart woman
>>>>>and Mr. LakerTom is a lucky man. LOL.

No doubt about it, Larry. She was my high school sweetheart and we have been married for over 40 years. And she is a Lakers fan. Like many other bloggers’ wives, she often reads and critiques various posts on the blog. I have invited her several times to chime in but she says this is my thing and she would prefer to just peak in from time to time to make sure I am not getting into trouble. She says she is just happy that it’s the Lakers Blog that consumes my Internet time rather than an online gambling or porno site. LOL.

Just a couple of Mrs. LakerTom’s opinions:

<<<< <<<<< The trolls give them an outlet to vent their anger someone other than other bloggers.

<<<< <<<<

<<<< <<<<

Tom

Thank goodness for you Sonny. I'd have a lot fewer links and posts to scroll past if it weren't for your clever, caustic, semi-political diatribes. Not to mention the wealth of Sacramento Bee story links.

Thanks Sonny. You're the best.

Keifo,

Since it is a weekend, it will be on NBC at 1:15 PM our time.

Edwin,

>>>>> Here comes the sun, here comes the sun,
>>>>>and I say it's all right

One of my favorite songs ever by George Harrison although it’s the Richie Havens version I love best. Hope Sun Yue lives up to his promise. He and Jordan give us some potentially great young legs behind Fish.

Tom

Edwin,

>>>>>Is it pronounced as Yoo' or Yu-weh.?

It is pronounced as SOON you-AH.

Tom

In order to play Yue, Mitchell, Karl next season, we need Jeanie Buss badly. She has to influence this nutty Zen coach to recognize talents than scrubs, to respect the youth who are eager to play than the veterans who are comfy and lazy with their rich contracts. Somebody has to influence this old baby boomer!

WESTERN CONFERENCE RANKINGS
By Marty Burns for SI.com

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/writers/marty_burns/08/15/west.rankings/

>>>>>

1. Lakers: The defending conference champs have had a mixed summer, re-signing Sasha Vujacic but losing reserve forward Ronny Turiaf (via free agency to Warriors). Turiaf's departure could be a significant blow, as L.A.'s reserve corps played a big role in last season's run to the Finals. The Lakers also lost out in the Artest sweepstakes, meaning Lamar Odom might be back after all. That's not necessarily bad, but it puts more pressure on 20-year-old Andrew Bynum to be a force under the rim next season in his return from a knee injury. Even so, the Lakers still have Kobe Bryant and that's enough to merit keeping them at No. 1 -- at least for now.

>>>>>

Tom

By the way, am I the only person who thinks it's beyond hilarious that Canada hasn't won a medal yet?

Time to lay off the Moosehead and get in the gym, eh!

GO USA!

GO LAKERS!

Yaawwwnnnn....

Is it time to wake from hibernation yet?? Is it October??
Darn.....time to go back to....

zzzzzzzzzz


Anyone know the terms of the Josh Powell signing?

GO LAKERS!

I've noticed that a lot of people are critical of Jordan Farmar's size, but he's an inch taller than beloved Laker Derek Fisher who, when I last checked, has started a lot of games while playing for Phil Jackson.

GO LAKERS!

"Sun Yue will become Magic Johnson when he joins the Lakers. If you are worried about his bulk, that's easy, the In & Out burgers alone will make him as big a Magic. I did not say he will be good as Magic but there is always room for expansion horizontally."
Posted by Edwin Gueco

No! LOL! That would be like comparing Kwa-may Brown to Kevin Garnett and Kevin Durant to Kobe Bryant. Of course its certainly possible but remember Magic was the 1st overall pick back in 1979 and Sun Yue is a 2nd rounder. I know you said skill wise Sun Yue might not be as good as Magic. I would rather think a better comparison would be Boris Diaw in that he can play multiple positions (if Sun Yue bulks up he can probably play even power forward).
Even though Sun Yue is showing flashes of potential in the Olympics, its still too early to say he's the next Magic Johnson.

Don't count out Farmar. Like I said before he has been in the NBA for 2 more years than Sun Yue (1 had Sun Yue actually signed with us last year). So he knows the tricks of the trades plus he probably has more stamina to handle the sch of the NBA than Sun Yue does. If you compare Sun Yue to Magic then its fair to compare Farmar to Steve Nash or even Tony Parker.

However I agree if all else equal skill wise (penetrating the paint, jumpers, and defense especially) Sun Yue would have certainly the edge against Jordan, time will only tell.

>>>Why haven't we fricken resigned Coby Karl yet? What
>>>the hell?

Actually, the Lakers do have a contract with Coby Karl for
next season - it's non-guaranteed, but they do have him under
contract. Assuming he plays well in training camp, I think he'll
be on the roster next season.

LakerTom,

I think Sun Yue was a great signing because the risk is minimal and the reward could be huge. When Mitch and the rest of the front office evaluates players these kinds of things need to be addressed and I think our front office is actually incredibly gifted at it.

I remember reading Ronnie Lester say something regarding the Bynum draft pick and where the team was at the point (did they need immediate impact) and how they knew he was a project but in two to three years would be considered a top 3 pick (if not #1) and that was their line of thinking. I really commend forward thinking management and it's nice to know our guys can go either way (giving up prospects and cap flexibility to get Gasol).

I'm really excited about this team, probably for the simple fact that I agree with what you (and your wife) mentioned...I like these guys. And I really think that each and every guy on the squad is a hard worker. that kind of thing is addictive and usually delivers good results.

Thanks guys for the info!!!

MAMBA... you da man!!

The season can't get here quick enough!!

Tully Moxness,

"To the person who praised Mike Dunleavy's GM ability a while back, I have two words for you:

Yaroslav Korolev"

Touche.

GO LAKERS!

Long Time Laker Fan,

Thanks for effectively shutting up my complaints regarding Coby Karl's resigning. I needed that.

GO LAKERS!

Jon,

My take on Artest as a King? As you know, I marvel at Bills ability and enjoyed watching him thunder down the court. While in rebuilding mode, Ron helped keep attendance from collapsing. I am glad he was here, and, I am glad he is gone. I'm even happier that we picked up two first rounders for him, which was my plan all along.

Go Niners!

Sonnybelfast

"Thanks Sonny. You're the best"

And I know in your heart you really mean it. Thank you so much Miss Piggy.

Sonnybelfast

kobebryantblitz,

Didn't get my joke huh? I said horizontally meaning the belly and weight, not the talents of Magic. How about the vertical growth on Farmar?

LakerTom,

You better correct this Joel Myers who kept on calling him short cut Yu and dropped the e which is pronounced as you said the sound Yu "ah". In the case of Gasol, heard Steve Hartman saying: Gay-sol. It's Spanish so it should be a short ahhh not the long ayyyye.

It goes without saying - accents go in both ways and change much as it leaves its place of origin, so we should not laugh at people with funny accents! Isn't it nice we have a blog and learn something new?

"I've noticed that a lot of people are critical of Jordan Farmar's size, but he's an inch taller than beloved Laker Derek Fisher who, when I last checked, has started a lot of games while playing for Phil Jackson"
Posted by Jon K.

Difference between Fish and Jordan besides size: Fish has a reliable jumper and while Jordan's jumper isn't bad, he isn't the type of guard you want to dish it out to for a jumper. He's more of the classic drive and dish point guard who in the long run could create his own jumper. Check my previous post from last night about having 2 penetrating guards.

To make it short:
Derek Fisher=Bill Paxson
Jordan Farmar=BJ Armstrong

Farmar might get to the all star game (assuming he is the point guard of the Lakers) but with a system that makes the shooting guard the penetrating one, Jordan probably will have to hold his dish and drive when he is out there with Kobe but can play to his style when he's with Sasha.

And in the NBA, size does give an advantage. Doesn't mean though smaller guys like Tony Parker can't succeed.

By the way, does anyone actually think that the Chinese WOMEN'S gymnastic team is actually composed of a bunch of 16 and older WOMEN?

My answer? HELL NO!

GO USA!

GO LAKERS!

Good 2 C Larry Mamba24 in the house!!!

Tom- I hope you are right and I am wrong.

Whomever, Sun Yue is good except he doesn't have a jump shot. Is that a joke?? If you can't shoot and you aren't great at defense, what do you add?

I just pray that Buss isn't concentrating on the Chinese market at the expense of team success.

GOOOoooOOO LAKERS!!

having Lamar guarding guys in the perimeter will help our defense especially with Drew and Pau, two 7 footers. Plus both Drew and Pau can score done in the post as well. Back in 2005-2006 season two 7 footers (Kwa-mey Brown and Chris Mihm) did help clog the lanes for defense purposes but we lacked any low post scoring and Lamar struggled penetrating the severely clogged lanes and Kobe was forced to shoot more perimeter shots since both Chris Mihm and especially Kwa-may Brown weren't good scorers. Having a slow Brian Cook did give us some offense but defense suffered greatly. Same thing happened in 2006-2007 teams again clogged the lane to prevent Kwa-may Brown from doing any scoring and an injured Lamar from doing any damage and Kobe again was forced to shoot. Once Bynum developed and especially with Pau we finally have an equal offense and defense capability and Lamar can defend more aggressively on the perimeter and can penetrate more since teams has to be concerned about not only Drew and Pau, they always have to worry about Kobe with Derek on the perimeter to shoot both long and mid range. Bynum will break out this year and Pau while not a great defender is solid enough to defend against the Power Forwards of today.

Pau limited Tim Duncan (the best Power Forward of all time, yes he will be greater than Barkley, Malone, and Garnett) to 22.4 ppg on 42.6 % shooting and also made Garnett score 18.2ppg on 44.4% shooting and Pau was playing out of position. And this was the same Kevin Garnett who torched Rasheed Wallace for 22.8ppg on 52.1% shooting in the Eastern Conference Finals!

With a solid but not great defender who can pass/score/rebound and think well at Power Forward, a beast at Center, a solid small forward, one of the best perimeter players ever, and a solid jump shooting veteran at point, combined with an ever strengthening bench, the 2008-2009 Lakers look darn good.

"Derek Fisher=Bill Paxson"

Did I miss something? Did another NBA team pick up the lead actor from the movie Twister?

Tom,
you used to play bball in china town? which team?
-boba

A chink in New Orleans armor -

Jannero Pargo just signed with a Russian team.

Guess they're going to be looking for a backup PG.

Long Time Laker Fan,

Jannero Pargo is going to Russia? Crazy.

Well that's good for us. I didn't like Jannero Pargo playing for the Hornets. Nope. Not one little bit.

GO LAKERS!

boba,

>>>>> you used to play bball in china town? which team?

You know, it’s been so long (35 years, LOL) that I can’t remember the name of the team. At the time I was tutoring Cantonese kids in English as a volunteer while attending Cal State LA and I can’t even remember the name of the community center that I worked in but that was where the games were. Pretty good competition, too! And very American style of basketball, including all the foul calling and arguing over calls.

The point I was making was the Sun Yue’s play reminds me more of the guys I played with in that league rather than the usual more passive players on the China national team. I also played against one of the teams from Chinatown in a summer league at Cal State LA. This was back in the days when Raymond Lewis was playing, if there are any other longtime LA basketball junkies. I played against Raymond and he was the greatest shooter that I ever played against, a great 3-point shooter right around the time the ABA put the rule in.

How about you?

Tom

boba,

>>>>> you used to play bball in china town? which team?

You know, it’s been so long (35 years, LOL) that I can’t remember the name of the team. At the time I was tutoring Cantonese kids in English as a volunteer while attending Cal State LA and I can’t even remember the name of the community center that I worked in but that was where the games were. Pretty good competition, too! And very American style of basketball, including all the foul calling and arguing over calls.

The point I was making was the Sun Yue’s play reminds me more of the guys I played with in that league rather than the usual more passive players on the China national team. I also played against one of the teams from Chinatown in a summer league at Cal State LA. This was back in the days when Raymond Lewis was playing, if there are any other longtime LA basketball junkies. I played against Raymond and he was the greatest shooter that I ever played against, a great 3-point shooter right around the time the ABA put the rule in.

How about you?

Tom

thekobebryantblitz,

Does it seem to you that the name “Kwame” has now almost universally translated into failure? We have our own Kwame Brown, the biggest first round bust in NBA history. As a Niners fan, I watched Kwame Harris allow our quarterbacks to be sacked over and over from the blind side. Now I read that Kwame Kilpatrick, the Mayor of Detroit, who is under house arrest for corruption and a host of other charges. It may be time to remove the name from those books of Children’s names that all the 20-somethings are carrying around. LOL.

Tom

AZ,

>>>>> I think our front office is actually incredibly gifted at it.

I think this year will provide the proof to back up that statement. Good take, Andrew.

Tom

whoops thanks for catching my mistake Pig Miller.

It's supposed to be John Paxson not Bill

LOL!

Mamba,

Here is the third try to post Mrs. LakerTom’s comments of the day. She is already ragging on me for the last two attempts getting screwed up. Guess that five less than signs in a row alerts TypePad to ignore what follows.

Anyway, the latest takes from Mrs. LakerTom:

>>>>>

“Without the trolls, the bloggers would spend all of their time destroying each other.
The trolls give them an outlet to vent their anger someone other than other bloggers.”

“She can tell from the posts that Mike T and I were both overaggressive defenders
in our day who mercilessly hacked and fouled every player we ever guarded.”

“AK and BK would both make excellent fathers because they already have solid
experience in handling juvenile delinquents.”

>>>>>

Tom

Edwin,

I still am not a big Joel Myers fan. I actually liked Paul Sunderland and enjoyed him calling some of the Olympics games. He was Chick’s pick to succeed him but apparently Joel somehow aced him out. Joel routinely butchers players’ names. I miss Chick. He would have had some wonderful takes on this team, that’s for sure.

Tom

I'm with you there Jon K. There's something fishy in China, and I don't just mean the boxing.

boba,

As a contrast to how Chinese-Americans play basketball versus Chinese in China, I also played quite a bit of basketball when I was in my 30’s at the YMCA in Kowloon in Hong Kong, where there were actually guys still shooting 2-handed set shots. As a guy who couldn’t earn playing time in JC, I was like Michael Jordan in Kowloon. LOL.

Tom

Jon K, KBblitz:

Nothing wrong with Jordan Farmar, he can be good as Fisher with his last second heroics last season. If he becomes as good as Tony Parker, well and good but he has been inconsistent with his defense for the last two years now. He can't handle the fast guards like Brandon Roy, CP3, Deron Williams, Tony Parker, Rajon Rondo, Monta Ellis, Baron Davis and on and on and on. Therefore, when his contract become due for increase and extentions and he may be asking 60M for 4 years that's where the difference lies, owners would look for a cheaper alternative just like what happened to Ronny Turiaf. Now from the Lakers perspective, all of us in this blog love to speculate, we all want our speculation as the hard fast rule tho' it's just pure guesstimate from a fan's eye view. Nobody here read the mind of kupchak when he got Ariza in the 1st half and Gasol in the 2nd half. Not even the Stat-Man, LTLF who made a living out of memorizing everyone's PER and Stats or the LakerTom who is more optimistic than Confusius. or our basketball mind here who has been preaching the magnificent calves that will plug the middle. Lately, we sense some storms in the horizon when we see a lot of PG's being recruited. They drafted a PG, signed Yue who they drafted last year a PG, signed Karl last year another PG so why five PG's? Karl was the best Laker during the Summer League. That's when you ask questions, is it a possibility that they are packaging a PG and an expiring contract SF or PF for a Center who will take place of another expiring injury-prone Center. In conclusion, there is nothing really wrong with Farmar we're analysing the initial moves by Mitch, what is he hatching up?

Pretty eye opening stuff

http://tinyurl.com/6mnl59

I think China is going to become the new Soviet Union, if the Russians don't revert back to that any day.

Derek Fisher=Bill Paxson
Jordan Farmar=BJ Armstrong

Don't forget

Kobe Bryant=Scottie Pippen

hhahahahahahaha

MrBarneyDangles,

you wrote: Lamar is going to cement his legacy as a great Laker role player

By my count, Lamar has been here for 3 years and has
4 months of being a great role player. The only way he
can cement his legacy is if we re-sign him. If we don't
get him on the cheap we will not have enough $$ to
sign a quality free agent because of Kobe & Pau's
contracts. We have not even spoken about Bynum's....

As I've said before, I would prefer that the Lakers get
someone defensive minded who'll be of all-star quality.
I would love to be proven wrong about Lamar, but I
just don't buy it ... Why do you?

 


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