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The Lakers get in the Josh Powell business

I heard some chatter, but wanted to wait until getting official word from the Lakers before posting anything.  Said e-mail has since arrived, so it's now a part of the blogosphere.  Not sure what the contract terms are, but if I had to guess, we're talking league minimum, one year, guaranteed.  Of course, this is just me spitballing, so take this with a grain of salt until confirmed.

The biggest winner in all of this may be Powell who, aside from getting a job, played in 2008 with the Clippers, meaning if he hasn't vacated his L.A. residence, no moving day!  In terms of what the Lakers get, keep hope alive for a pleasant surprise, but also retain modest expectations.  Powell's stint at Staples constituted his fourth team in three seasons (making his Lakers duty the fifth team in four years, for you mathematicians in the crowd).  Going by the limited glimpses I've seen of his limited career minutes, I picture Powell being a decent enough replacement for Ronny Turiaf, although possibly not as effective and definitely not as big.  Powell is young, plays with energy and in the biggest minutes of his career last season, pulled down more than a respectable share of boards. On the flip side, Turiaf scored more points in fewer minutes and is a much better shot blocker.  I'll also go out on a limb and bet Turiaf is more entertaining while on the bench. 

Either way, decent signing, although in terms of filling a true "body" need, I'm not sure how much (if at all) it helps.  If Andrew Bynum and Chris Mihm encounter any health setbacks, I don't see Powell, unless he's gained a lot of weight, fitting that bill.  Fingers crossed, they won't have to find out.

AK

 
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Powell is the Laker savior? Please? OMG

AK,

Powell averaged 5.5 points per game and 5.2 rebounds per game in 19.2 minutes of playing time in 64 games with the Clippers last year. Those are not bad stats at all. In fact, they are amazingly close to the stats that Mike and HmrHed are making regarding Kwame. I would say that would make the Lakers deal with Powell, who made $800K with the Clippers, a much smarter and more affordable option than $4M per year for Kwame. LOL.

Of course, there is no way even with injuries that the guy is going to log anything near 20 minutes per game with the Lakers, unless they have a Clippers type injury year.

Tom

it's OFFICIAL JOSH POWELL is a LAKER....sorry not J-POSH but POSH POWELL....I hope he has the POWER.... GO LAKERS!!!!!

JJJOOOSSSSHHHH POOWELLL not POSH sorry again.....LA LAKERS ARE # 1 here in the Philippines

2 ex-Clippers in Laker uni!?! Dang, Jon K is getting his wish.


For those who might not be watching the China games, I've
capped a nice Sun Yue highlight - he gets a steal and throws
a length of court pass to Yi. I've uploaded it to youtube, but
as of this post, it isn't showing up there yet. Hopefully by
the time you actually read this and click through it will be
there.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTwBNh9n1AM

It's my first time using youtube. If this one works out, I'll do a
Joe Crawford summer league highlight reel and a Coby Karl
summer league highlight reel for those of you who didn't see
those games.

I was actually pleasantly surprised, as my newer version
of premiere has built in stuff to convert to the right format
for youtube and upload directly through the Premiere interface.
If I'd have known it was going to be that simple, I'd have capped
this stuff long ago. :-)

The clip will probably get taken down eventually, as it's just
a 15 second clip straight off of NBC, but for the highlight
reels, I'll do some editing and add text and a soundtrack,
which will make it count as "fair use" and thus probably
won't get taken down.

JJJJoooosh Powell

Long Time,

Thanks for the YouTube of Sun Yue. What do you think of Sun? I really like his potential and am surprised at the negative stuff being posted about him. Be interested in your take. Thanks.

Tom

When Kobe, Lamar and Pau are done.. the present!

I will look for Bynum (Jabbar) 21, Ariza (Worthy) 23, SunYue (Magic) 22 the future! To lead the next generation of Lakers.

Mix the present and the future this is what happens in 2009-2010-2011.. 3 NBA rings!

LTLF and LakerTom,

I'm going to hi-jack your convo and give my two cents on Sun Yue. I liked what I saw. He handled the ball well, had a nice stroke on the 3's he took, and seemed pretty athletic. What I really liked is the fact that he looked like he put on some weight from other clips I saw, and gaining that strength is going to be huge. The thing is, he's a Chinese second round pick on a title favorite and won't see much playing time, which is good.

I like him on the Lakers and I think he'll be a crowd favorite. I can see some garbage time Yue to Crawford highlight reel clips next season.

This is cool.

My second favorite former Clippers player moves his gear down the hall.

He ain't no Rony but then he ain't no Kwame either. LOL

AZ,

Hey, thanks for chiming in. You know I always have respected your view as often more realistic than mine. We usually only disagree by degree. LOL. I hadn’t really noticed that Sun had put on weight but I would like to get someone like Drew’s Dr. Z to work with him. The difference he made in Drew between his second and third years were miraculous.

What I really like about Sun Yue is that he reminds me a lot of the Chinese-American ball players that I played against in Chinatown leagues in LA. He really is pretty aggressive and showboating for a Chinese. I am sure the stint his team did in the CBA helped him acclimate his game more to the American style. Behind the back passes aren’t a natural tendency that you will see from many Chinese ball players. That is starting to change as Sun Yue shows. As Yao says, Chinese basketball is getting better. China the team is actually a microcosm of the China the country as it climbs out of the past to emerge as a full blown modern power.

There are players like Yao and Yi who have a graceful finesse games but often seem passive, especially when play gets very competitive and physical. Even though Yao has grown a lot in that respect, you sometimes wish he had a mean streak. He is such a gentleman that it probably limits his potential. Sun, on the other hand, seems to be cut more from a Bruce Lee or Jet Li mode, willing to wear his heart a little more on his sleeve and understanding of the entertainment aspect to playing basketball. Those who claim that his Chinese Magic Johnson nickname came just because of his height and position are disrespecting his obviously strong ball handling and passing skills as well as that streak of showmanship that propels him to throw those behind the back passes and make those great come-from-behind shot blocks.

There will never be another Magic Johnson and he will always be the G.O.A.T at the point as far as I am concerned but I sure wouldn’t mind seeing Sun Yue become the first Chinese back court player to become a star in the NBA and help Drew continue the Lakers greatness once Kobe Bryant decides to hang up his sneakers. It will be fun seeing how Sun Yue turns out and tantalizing to get a few glimpses here and there of the Lakers post-Kobe. Got to say, it’s crazy that everybody on this blog is not smiling and celebrating. This is as good a time to be a Lakers fan as there ever was. And we know I’m old enough to be able to say that.

LOL. Tilt one up for me, Andrew. It’s Lakers all the way.

Tom

I doubt this is the move us Lakers fans have been waiting for.
I'd still like to see us pick up a decent backup center ('Zo?) because I'm not counting on Mihm to contribute much.

Somewhere Jon K is happy that a clipper has crossed over.

Let's hope this turns out better than the last clipper, lol.

Seriously though, we picked up a PF, perty good. Now show us what you got, in what little minutes you'll have.

Go Lakers!

I just saw the first half of Team USA from today. VERY entertaining game. Dwayne Wade is back, total stud, made some incredible plays including a highlight reel pass while falling out of bounds to Kobe for an in the air slam. Very cool. Chris Bosh has really improved. Lebron had some really, I mean really rad slams.

However... again, if I'm Mark Cuban and I'm watching this, I'm absolutely horrified. Kidd picked up 3 quick fouls in like, 3 minutes and the ultimate blow was Doug Collins said, well, he was only going to play for 5 minutes anyway... Ohhhhhh! POW! Right in the kisser... anybody got a giant fork? Put a fork in Kidd, oh yeah, for $20 some million per year... brutal...

Laker Tom,

You're right. The numbers for Powell next season definitely weren't "bad" at all, especially in the rebounding department. I just wanted to caution against anyone thinking Powell was the proverbial "missing piece." Never say never, obviously, but it's probably a stretch. But certainly not a poor signing, either.

From the limited conversations we've had, Powell also seems like a nice guy, for whatever that means to anyone.

AK

Tom, this is not Long Time, but I have a Sun Yue opinion.

I watched the entire China v. USA game and was not impressed by China or Sun Yue. His passes were not crisp. He tends to dribble back towards the half court line instead of taking it to the hole. I saw the block, that was nice. But I also saw some bricks. If you watched the SY workout video on lakers.com, you can see that he is another weak finisher. He misses a lot of close range layups. But, I've yet to see him take it to the hole in competition so that doesn't matter.

Bottom line. No one on the China team looked NBA ready. Of course, that includes Yao (who is obviously ready), but I saw no reason for enthusiasm. He wasn't knocking down long shots or taking it to the hoop or making good passes.

GOOOoooOOOO LAKERS!!!!

Good signing.

Now just pickup Quinton Ross and we're done.

GO LAKERS!

Time will only tell how good Sun Yue can be. With his playmaking abilities he seems to be a good player. At the moment Jordan has the edge over him since 1) Jordan shoot the ball so far at the NBA range and 2) He has more experience in the offense which made him start over Javaris Crittenton (In the long run I think J-Critt may be better than Jordan, he does after all have comparisions to Steve Francis).

Sun Yue has comparisons to Boris Diaw which I think may be too generous but given his 6'9 height it is certainly possible, its not every day that a person from the Chinese National Team blocks Dwight Howard on a fast break. However, if he works hard and continues to work with the Chinese National team during the summer days to improve himself during the offseason Sun Yue could really be a good NBA guard. Heck he could maybe even steal Farmar's job in the future (grins towards Jon K.)

Just don't count out Jordan though, he is a hard worker and if he works out as well he'll certainly be a solid guard in the NBA and had comparisons to Steve Nash as well. He ain't no Nash at the mean time but if he improves his jumper and his 3 point shooting, hell the question wouldn't be if Farmar can keep his starting job but can Sun Yue be alright if he is the backup to Jordan?

AK,

>>>>>From the limited conversations we've had, Powell also seems like a nice guy,
>>>>>for whatever that means to anyone.

It’s funny but my wife and I were talking earlier and she said that she thought it was cool that all of the Lakers players were nice guys, whereas most of the Celtics players were all a-holes. LOL. What can I say? She IS Mrs. LakerTom. LOL.

I must admit that it’s extra special when you have great guys on your team – and you win. Not that I don’t mind an a-hole or two if that’s what we need to win. But the mix of players we have on this team is inspirational, international, intergenerational, and interchangeable. It’s so eclectic that the team portrait reminds me of an international fashion ad for the GAP or Banana Republic. It’s like a microcosm of the world’s races and cultures. All that we’re missing at this point is a Central or South American and we could create our own UN. LOL

Tom

LT,

I think Sun Yue has the body and athletic ability to be a very
good player... eventually. He's already a decent ball handler
and passer. His one-on-one defense isn't very good, but
he's actually a really good blocker ("soft" guys don't block
Dwight Howard's shot).

I think what Yue needs is some good training, sort of like what
Bynum is getting. They could bring in Magic to tutor him and turn
him into a quality point guard or bring Michael Cooper in to tutor
him and turn him into a defensive stopper. If he works as
hard as Bynum and Farmar and Sasha have been working,
in a year or two he could actually be a solid contributor to the
team. I haven't seen him play enough to know what his ceiling
is, but I'm sure he could be a productive player at the NBA level
if he works on it

Powell is very solid and gives what the Lakers lacked both in the 08 Finals and the 04 Finals: a big man enforcer who possibly won't fumble the ball and be a soft scrub like Kwa-may.

In 04, the Lakers had a 1 legged 40 year old Karl Malone, Slava, and a rookie Luke Walton to be the banger against Rasheed Wallace. In 08, the Lakers had an Odom who was covered heavily by KG the Defensive Player of the Year and had to guard a center. Ronny faded from the finals and Pau got too tired from being guarded by a center who is stronger than he is and also guarding one of the best Power Forwards in history (KG). Had the Lakers had Horace Grant back in 04 and Andrew Bynum in 08 we could have won both finals.

I look for Sun to be 3rd backup in the point guard and either Coby Karl or Mitchell to be backup at the 2. We shall see in training camp of who makes the cut.

In my defense of wanting to pick up Clippers players....

Mike Dunleavy is a better General Manager than he is a coach.

Suppposedly a lot of players like to play for Mike Dunleavy and he's a defensive orientated coach (which I like) and he can work with difficult players (which I could care less about), but I have yet to see that he is a top notch coach.

To be quite frank, as a Clippers fan, his rotations madden me. I do not get them in the slightest. He does not seem to get the best out of his players. Not at all.

I've read that he's had a major influence upon Elgin Baylor in terms of drafting and trades and, quite frankly, he has been an INCREDIBLE improvement upon beloved Lakers Great Mr. Baylor, but he brings these guys in and then throws them into a confusing system.

The Clippers are cleaning house this year and have done a pretty damned good job of rebuilding post-David Falk treachery, but there are some Clippers players out there and they have NOT been used to their potential.

At the top of my list...

Quinton Ross
Shaun Livingston (tragedy)
Paul Davis
Nick Fazekas

All solid good plalyers (except Shaun Livingston who is a potential NBA Hall of Fame player if he can return from his injury).

The fact that these guys have not been signed amazes me, especially at the price that they are available AND considering that Dunleavy is a defensive-minded coach, thus improving the benefit they would have for the Lakers.

[By the way, for those who don't care about the Clippers. We have our own Kwame Brown. His name is Tim Thomas. Remember? The Sun who beat both the Lakers and the Clippers in the playoffs two years ago. Remember that jerk? He's now destroying the Clippers from within. Wonderful.]

Anyhow, I hope the Lakers sign Quinton Ross and take a look at some other Clippers players. They would blossom in Purple and Gold.

Go Clippers!

GO LAKERS!

thekobebryantblitz,

Jordan Farmar is going to be the next Tony Parker (as long as we don't sign Shaun Livingston). Phil Jackson may be biased towards long, defensive-minded point guards, but he is by no means an idiot. He has the humility to adapt and he will with a weapon like that.

GO LAKERS!

thekobebryantblitz,

>>>>>Just don't count out Jordan though, he is a hard worker and if he works out as
>>>>>well he'll certainly be a solid guard in the NBA and had comparisons to Steve
>>>>>Nash as well. He ain't no Nash at the mean time but if he improves his jumper
>>>>>and his 3 point shooting, hell the question wouldn't be if Farmar can keep his
>>>>>starting job but can Sun Yue be alright if he is the backup to Jordan?

Thanks for your comments, blitz. I like Jordan a lot also. He still has the potential to be a Tony Parker type of point guard, meaning a great offensive player with limited defensive abilities in a half court game. That is not a bad ceiling as Tony P won Finals MVP and a couple of rings so I see him as what Jordan can aspire to be. I thought Phil should have started Jordan over Smush and I think there is a chance he will challenge Fish to start sometime this year, especially if we run as much as I am hoping we will do.

I think Farmar needs to add two things to his offensive repertoire which Tony Parker excels at. The first is the teardrop shot, which Parker has made an art form and which used to be one of Jordan’s primary weapon. When and how he abandoned it, I don’t know but he needs to bring it back. It’s a shot that is based totally on quickness and deception. The second move is the jumpstop. Jordan has become one dimensional when he penetrates, always going to the rim off one foot. Instead, Jordan needs to come to a big jump stop where he can throw a couple of quick head fakes and then use his 42” vertical leap to dunk the damn ball. The teardrop and the jumpstop will allow Jordan to take his game to the next level. At least his offensive game.

Defensively, at Jordan’s size, you have to be a great anticipator and flopper rather than just meekly chasing guys around screens. If we play a pressing trapping offense with Drew as free safety rather than allowing teams to setup on us in half court and screen and roll us to death, then I think Farmar can be a very good defender, playing the passing lanes and using his hops to deflect and intercept passes. He just needs to play defense with the same mettle and confidence that he plays offense. Defensively, is where I am most tantalized by Sun Yue, who I think is fast and quick enough to really give opposing point guards a rough time. He has great height and length and shot blocking ability for a guy who can play the point. Literally, he might be the PERFECT point guard for Phil’s Triangle Offense.

Tom

Why haven't we fricken resigned Coby Karl yet? What the hell?

He's good!

GO LAKERS!

I think Powell and Yue (and Karl if they guarantee his contract)
are all good choices for the Lakers.

First of all, the Lakers have an excellent core rotation, so there
won' t be a lot of extra minutes to go around... I don't expect
any of the three to play more than a few minutes a game, and
mostly in garbage time.

They're all fairly young, will all be on very modest (and likely
non-guaranteed) contracts, and they all have some upside.
I don't expect any of them to ever be all-stars, but if even one
of the three could improve enough to be a consistent role-player
for the Lakers, then that would be great.

If the Lakers had brought in a veteran like Kwame or Pargo,
they would expect to be paid more and would expect to get
more minutes, which could disrupt the Lakers rotation that was
fairly successful last season. These less-known players
will hopefully work hard and get prepared in case there's
a situation where they're actually needed. And in the meantime
they can ride along for a championship.

The only thing I might have done differently is I might have
tried to sign the OTHER Clippers discard PF - Nick Fazekas.
He's an excellent rebounder with some good offensive moves.

JohnnyP,

>>>>>I watched the entire China v. USA game and was not impressed
>>>>>by China or Sun Yue.

Thanks for your comments, Johnny. You’re always welcome to chime in. I don’t agree with you but understand what you’re saying about the Chinese team not being aggressive. It’s something that is coming along slowly and steadily but, just like China the country, they’re not quite ready for prime time. I think Sun Yue will blossom out of the environment and restrictions of playing for the national team. It was even a surprise that he started. China is not the team where you throw behind the back passes and showboat your ball handling.

Aside from being an incurable optimist, I have a lot of confidence in Mitch and the Lakers ability to judge talent. I think Sun Yue is unique for a Chinese player and stood up very well considering he has never really played against NBA quality talent. I was impressed that Sun only had the single turnover and played with poise against Kobe when more experienced guys on other teams have totally fallen apart when guarded by him. Look at what he did to Barbosa last year and the Greek guard just the other night. You’re being too harsh on Sun in my opinion. At any rate, remember he is only a second round pick and we have already cased in on Mitch’s other second round pick, Marc Gasol, who was an integral reason why Memphis did the deal with the Lakers.

Anyway, thanks again for chiming in. We’ll just have to agree to disagree on Sun Yue, although I know you’ll be hoping I’m right and you’re wrong since we’re Lakers fans. LOL.

Tom

BLOG CRUE
Since it's summer, let's hope the Dodgers get something going in time for the playoffs. 4 wins in a row!

Colorado loves the Lakers!

Long Time,

>>>>>I think what Yue needs is some good training, sort of like what
>>>>>Bynum is getting. They could bring in Magic to tutor him and turn
>>>>>him into a quality point guard or bring Michael Cooper in to tutor
>>>>>him and turn him into a defensive stopper.

Thanks for responding. I like what you said. These guys are exactly what you want at the end of the bench. Guys who will be hungry and have potential that is worth investing some time and resources on. I’m glad we are going that route and not with a bunch of mercenary has-beens like the Celtics, even though it paid off for them. I still wouldn’t consider House and Allen as guys I would trust. House was a bust at Phoenix. He will be a bust next year. The Celtics will really miss Posey. They’re past their summit and on the way down. And the Lakers are building a machine that is 15 players deep. I could see a starting lineup in some far off future with Sun Yue at point and Coby Karl at shooting guard. Long shots sure but not without hope. The return of the Lakers Mystique will make every player better.

Tom

Jon K.

Jordan being the next Tony Parker may be still a long shot but hey, time will only tell how Jordan will turn out.

The kind of guards that Phil likes are defensive minded point guards who are spot up shooters such as John Paxon and Ron Harper. The reasoning is that the shooting guards Phil has had (Michael Jordan and Kobe Bryant) are penetrating the paint shooting guards, having good jumpers and the ability to drive in the lane like a small forward. Unfortunately, if paired with a traditional drive and dish point guards, the paint will be clogged too much to be penetrated. Thats why MJ didn't like being paired with Sam Vincent and BJ Armstrong because they wanted to penetrate the paint just as much as MJ. And neither MJ nor Kobe would like to play point guard even though their stats could increase (MJ's stats was great when he was put on point). Plus both don't have point guard skills and would still fire too much shots than the usual point guard would, Lebron James at the moment is a perfect example since the Cavs don't have a legitmate point guards (Mo Williams drive and dish style may come into conflict with Lebron's own penetration). To remedy this, Phil put John Paxon and Ron Harper to be spot up shooters than the classic point guard. This continued with the Lakers with Ron Harper/Brian Shaw and now Derek Fisher. Smush wasn't a good fit really for Phil's system since he liked to penetrate more and wasn't a spot up shooter. Hence Jordan Farmer might clash with Kobe's style unless Jordan puts up a good jumper so when he gets the point guard reigns, Kobe can dish the ball to him reliably and when Kobe is resting he can do the penetration.

Laker Tom:

Sun Yue is 3/4 there to being Phil's point guard type. He indeed has the height and indeed has the playmaking skills. Only problem at the moment is having a reliable jumper (he is improving that). If he has a jumper then Sun Yue could actually be a really great point guard the league has to be concerned about.

As for Jordan, he is a ball thief in the passing lanes and his help defense is getting better. Like you said, improve his skills once he hits the rim and keep developing a jumper and he'll be solid. I do not think Jordan will think about flopping too much due to the new rules that will penalize players from flopping (yes even they care that they will lose $1k+). And that might be a concern to Jordan since he did alright against Iverson yet was bullied around by Deron Williams but hanged in there against Tony Parker and did average against the Celtics.

Jordan Farmar was taken in the later part of the 1st Round and Sun Yue was taken in the early part of the 2nd Round. Time will tell of who will take the mantle of point guard from Derek Fisher and who will eventually be running the Laker squad when Kobe takes his place amongst the legends.

Jon K.,

The trauma of watching Shaun Livingston's injury ought to be enough to convince you of its seriousness.

If the Clippers who obviously have the best opportunity to take a close look at him feel he's expendable (and they've made it clear that they do) given his obvious size and talents, you have to question whether he can play in the NBA again. The decline from his obvious talent and potential to his injury and subsequent dumping by his team is a bathos and suggests he's in terrible shape.

As a Laker fan, I'd like to stop taking big chances. We tried it with the Shaq trade. We tried it with Kwame. We did it with Bynum (and won, thankfully).

Why chance a roster spot for a guy that we don't even know can play in the league again?

Here's a very graphic video of the injury. It's really not for the faint of heart:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGPKIS6pB_c


The results of the injury we'e torn ACL, PCL, lateral meniscus, a badly sprained MCL, and a dislocated patella and tibia-femoral joint.

Looking at a graphical representation of the knee and its major components, there's not much more that Shaun could have damaged:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knee


We know you loves you some Clippers players, but you know the answer to the question about Shaun's knee.

LTLF,

Thanks for doing that vid. I checked it out. I also made a friend request on youtube.

GOOD MORNING EASTCOASTJESSIE, JUSTANOTHERMAMBAFAN AND MORNING CREW.
I didn't mean to ignore you yesterday, I left before I saw your postings. Sorry! So how
Is everybody? Hearing from the "Latina Princess" and" Head of the Mamba clan" is
just what I needed to start today. So how about Team USA? TOTAL DOMINATION!!
If they had even one more "Big" on the Team I would almost take the REDEEM TEAM
over the DREAM TEAM. What say you.

Larry(MAMBA24)

A.K." Fingers crossed, they won't have to find out."

FINGERS, TOES AND EYES CROSSED. We have to get
another "Big" AK!!!

Powell is the Laker savior? Please? OMG Posted by: Let's go C's! |
August 14, 2008 at 05:49

OMG!! I AGREE WITH LET'S GO C'S.!! Somebody put me out of
my misery....PLEEEEEEAAAASSSSE!!!!

AUGUST 15, 2008
TO ALL LAKER BLOGGERS PLEASE JOIN IN THE FOLLOWING CELEBRATION

Lord Cassius Kwaminus Longinus, Earl of the Quick Foul, Viscount of the Sore Calves
I have been dispatched by the Queen Her Majesty Elizabeth herself to inform you that because
of your sterling Laker Blog Service you are now hereby to be known as: Lord Cassius Kwaminus
Longinus, Earl of the Stone Hands, Duke of the Magnificient Kwame Calves. Wear your
new title with honor and pride sir.

It’s funny but my wife and I were talking earlier and she said that she thought it was cool that all
of the Lakers players were nice guys, whereas most of the Celtics players were all a-holes.
LOL. What can I say? She IS Mrs. LakerTom. LOL. Posted by: LakerTom | August 14, 2008 at 09:30 PM

Me thinks Mrs. LakerTom is a smart woman and Mr. LakerTom is a lucky man. LOL

Joseph, Barrack, and Mary were a platonic threesome. Because the baby Kobe was
immaculately conceived, and the Chinese one-child law wasn't violated, he wasn't aborted.
Kobe became a kind master, performed miracles, and was worshipped, before he was
crucified. Jesus, on the other hand, travelled a different road. He was a showboating
adulterer, and purchased with gold the silence of the skank who had soiled his bed.
Of course, this presented no problem for Kobe or his followers -for as Kobe had
exclaimed to all- the big Daddy had done exactly the same before him.
Wait a minute. We're confusing Kobe with Jesus! We must be Laker fans.
Sonnybelfast Posted by: Sonnybelfast | August 14, 2008 at 06:05 PM

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Yawn...Josh Powell wins the 2008 J.B. Carroll Award. If you remember the Purdue star (?) of the early 80s, he came into the Association and quickly became known as "Just Breathing" Carroll. Powell will not replace Turiaf's minutes...the Lakers should just hang onto another guy with two letters for a first name, D.J. Mbenga. It will cost them about the same $$$ and they will get about the same production...

"You’re always welcome to chime in."

Nice to see you've loosened things up around here LakerTom, and are giving others the privilege of adding their opinion to the boards.

Wow.

Larry,

You are crazy. Dream Team always.

Thekobebryantblitz,

>>>>>Sun Yue is 3/4 there to being Phil's point guard type. He indeed has the height
>>>>>and indeed has the playmaking skills. Only problem at the moment is having a
>>>>> reliable jumper (he is improving that). If he has a jumper then Sun Yue could
>>>>>actually be a really great point guard the league has to be concerned about.

Thanks for your response. I agree 100% with the above assessment. Let’s get the kid signed and over here wearing purple and gold. It should be fun watching this team evolve. I have been a Lakers fan for 40 years and have never loved a team more than this one.

Tom

All this Powell and Yue talk is cool, but neither are getting any minutes next year. Yue may get Coby Karl minutes and Powell will probably get less than Benga minutes but who cares, neither was in the game once when it matters (I think Karl got 1st half action once when PJ was mad at everyone).

What we need to be really excited about is how Kobe is going to get back to back MVP's, how Bynum is going to become the next great center, how Lamar is going to cement his legacy as a great Laker role player, how Pau is going to go down as the best trade EVER, how Farmar is going to become a very good pg, and how Sasha is going to become the best 3 pt shooter in the NBA. This all leading us to what is ours, the NBA Championship.

Lamar = Laker for Life

GO LAKERS

Pig,

>>>>> Nice to see you've loosened things up around here LakerTom, and are
>>>>>giving others the privilege of adding their opinion to the boards.

LOL. Didn’t know that I ever discouraged other bloggers from commenting, even when I addressed a post to a specific poster but it is good to see Lakers interest is still high during these dog days of summer. The season cannot start too soon for me. What’s your take on Sun Yue, Pig? Thumbs up or down? Thanks.

Tom

Laker Tom, Mamba 24, and other over-users of the Blog:

ENOUGH! TIME TO GET OUT AND DO SOMETHING USEFUL.

The entire season hinges on Bynum's recovery, not that I am not enjoying minor pieces of the puzzle being ably assembled by Mitch. Bynum or bust. The west is so packed with talent that status quo means falling back into the pack. We have status quo right now - we need more. When the Lakers were the Lakers, they had a second team that could beat many first teams. We are nowhere close at this time, and there is NO Laker mystique (Magic Johnson is Mystique's name) on the floor. We'll need a Bob McAdoo, a Mychal Thompson, an Alonzo Mourning. We need a starting point and a rebounding specialist. So many needs, so far to go.

Mamba,

>>>>>Me thinks Mrs. LakerTom is a smart woman
>>>>>and Mr. LakerTom is a lucky man. LOL.

No doubt about it, Larry. She was my high school sweetheart and we have been married for over 40 years. And she is a Lakers fan. Like many other bloggers’ wives, she often reads and critiques various posts on the blog. I have invited her several times to chime in but she says this is my thing and she would prefer to just peak in from time to time to make sure I am not getting into trouble. She says she is just happy that it’s the Lakers Blog that consumes my Internet time rather than an online gambling or porno site. LOL.

Just a couple of Mrs. LakerTom’s opinions:

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Tom

RUMOR HAS IT…
By Eric Pincus for HoopsWorld.com

http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?story_id=9771

Eric Pincus finally confirms what I have been saying about John Black’s confusing comments about Sun Yue playing shooting guard:

>>>>>The Lakers have since clarified with HOOPSWORLD that the comments were
>>>>>taken out of context. Sun will have the opportunity to back up Derek Fisher
>>>>>and Jordan Farmar at the point. Equally, since the guard positions in the triangle
>>>>>offense are interchangeable - he could very well get minutes at shooting guard.

Some stuff on Josh Powell and other non-Lakers rumors.

Tom

Benjamin,

You're probably right, but I really hope you're not.

GO LAKERS!

-Artest...Finally-

http://www.sacbee.com/100/story/1159158.html

Sonnybelfast

Sun Yue will become Magic Johnson when he joins the Lakers. If you are worried about his bulk, that's easy, the In & Out burgers alone will make him as big a Magic. I did not say he will be good as Magic but there is always room for expansion horizontally.

There is no way for Farmar to grow vertically at 6'9". So if talents are equal in a year's time, the advantage is on Yue (Is it pronounced as Yoo' or Yu-weh.? What I know they pronounced the vowels: a-e-i-o-u in chinese).

A Beatle song will become a threat to Farmar, remember the tune of that song:

"Here comes the sun, here comes the sun,
and I say it's all right

Little darling, it's been a long cold lonely winter
Little darling, it feels like
years since it's been here
Here comes the sun, here comes the sun
and I say it's all right.........."

Wow. Josh Powell. I remember watching some Clipper games last season and thinking "why can't the Lakers get a banger like that?" I saw him rebound with authority against some solid opposing front lines and more than hold his own. He is definitely better than Ronny at this time, although Ronny will still continue to develop his game with more playing time.

Roger B.

Can someone tell me which channel carries the game tomorrow morning???

man, I don't know what you guys are talking about. What do you see in Coby Karl? Forget that he's a nice guy, what does he bring ON THE COURT? Defense? Are you kidding me? He's a 3 point specialist, he's not a Luke Walton type facilitator. What do we need him for?

DJ Mbenga, same thing. This dude is an absolute spaz. Have you watched him try to set a pick? His legs are all over the place. You know... there's a reason we got him off waivers...

This Josh Powell. I really don't know much about him but I certainly don't expect any real minutes out of him. We've got Bynum, Mihm (say even 10-15 minutes/game) and Gasol rotating around at Center. At PF you have Gasol starting, Odom probably rotating up, Radmanovic and Walton can also rotate up so if we need a guy to come in and foul for 10 minutes, Powell will be the guy, otherwise, when is he going to play unless it's a blowout?

From what the Lakers have said, it would appear Sun Yue is mostly going to be playing in the SG slot, which would make sense since in his first season here, he won't have the leg strength to stay in front of the faster PG's in the league.

What else? Oh yeah, Mitchell. From what I've seen, the Lakers are looking at him for defensive relief.

If you look at that logjam, WHERE does Coby Karl fit in? SG - behind Kobe, Sasha, Mitchell for some defense and possibly Ariza and Yue, or at SF with Kobe, Ariza, Odom, Walton and Radmanovic vying for minutes at that spot?

If Coby Karl makes the team, then we're making a trade.

LakerTom,

He seemed to move well in the game against the US. His range is good, but not great, and that's pretty much all I can say about him. I hope to see him play a lot in the preseason to get a better gauge of his skill level.

Does anyone know if buying NBA league pass will include preseason games?

Edwin Gueco:"Here comes the sun, here comes the sun,
and I say it's all right"

WELL I'LL BE.......Edwin the Folk singer. SING IT EDWIN!!! LOL!

KEIFO IN THE HOUSE. THE GAMES ON NBC I THINK IT'S AT 9:00

LAKERTOM I'll say it again you are one LUCKY MAN!!

Pig "Miller": Larry, You are crazy. Dream Team always.

You just now realizing that Pig. LOL! Just playing devils
advocate to stir up some posts. My Therapy session is in
2 hours. LOL! How you been brothe?

Larry(Mamba24)

To the person who praised Mike Dunleavy's GM ability a while back, I have two words for you:

Yaroslav Korolev

You may now return to your regular Pau-bashing, already in progress.

PS The Lakers got Bynum at #10, and the Clippers took Koralev two picks later. Danny Granger fell to the Pacers several picks later. Imagine the gnashing of teeth if Mitch had taken the future manager of the Moscow Starbucks in Red Square.

Edwin Guerco,

"Sun Yue will become Magic Johnson when he joins the Lakers."

Dude, you're smoking crack.

By the way, with the Long Bataan Death March references I've made in the past, I wasn't trying to make fun of the Long Bataan Death March--that was a horrific event. I was trying to make fun of myself and other bloggers by overinflating my/our suffering during this offseason. The offseason isn't that bad, but sometimes through our Laker addict histrionics we make it seem so.

GO LAKERS!

Sonnybelfast,

What's your take on the whole Artest as a King thing?

GO LAKERS!

Mamba,

>>>>>Me thinks Mrs. LakerTom is a smart woman
>>>>>and Mr. LakerTom is a lucky man. LOL.

No doubt about it, Larry. She was my high school sweetheart and we have been married for over 40 years. And she is a Lakers fan. Like many other bloggers’ wives, she often reads and critiques various posts on the blog. I have invited her several times to chime in but she says this is my thing and she would prefer to just peak in from time to time to make sure I am not getting into trouble. She says she is just happy that it’s the Lakers Blog that consumes my Internet time rather than an online gambling or porno site. LOL.

Just a couple of Mrs. LakerTom’s opinions:

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Tom

Thank goodness for you Sonny. I'd have a lot fewer links and posts to scroll past if it weren't for your clever, caustic, semi-political diatribes. Not to mention the wealth of Sacramento Bee story links.

Thanks Sonny. You're the best.

Keifo,

Since it is a weekend, it will be on NBC at 1:15 PM our time.

Edwin,

>>>>> Here comes the sun, here comes the sun,
>>>>>and I say it's all right

One of my favorite songs ever by George Harrison although it’s the Richie Havens version I love best. Hope Sun Yue lives up to his promise. He and Jordan give us some potentially great young legs behind Fish.

Tom

Edwin,

>>>>>Is it pronounced as Yoo' or Yu-weh.?

It is pronounced as SOON you-AH.

Tom

In order to play Yue, Mitchell, Karl next season, we need Jeanie Buss badly. She has to influence this nutty Zen coach to recognize talents than scrubs, to respect the youth who are eager to play than the veterans who are comfy and lazy with their rich contracts. Somebody has to influence this old baby boomer!

WESTERN CONFERENCE RANKINGS
By Marty Burns for SI.com

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/writers/marty_burns/08/15/west.rankings/

>>>>>

1. Lakers: The defending conference champs have had a mixed summer, re-signing Sasha Vujacic but losing reserve forward Ronny Turiaf (via free agency to Warriors). Turiaf's departure could be a significant blow, as L.A.'s reserve corps played a big role in last season's run to the Finals. The Lakers also lost out in the Artest sweepstakes, meaning Lamar Odom might be back after all. That's not necessarily bad, but it puts more pressure on 20-year-old Andrew Bynum to be a force under the rim next season in his return from a knee injury. Even so, the Lakers still have Kobe Bryant and that's enough to merit keeping them at No. 1 -- at least for now.

>>>>>

Tom

By the way, am I the only person who thinks it's beyond hilarious that Canada hasn't won a medal yet?

Time to lay off the Moosehead and get in the gym, eh!

GO USA!

GO LAKERS!

Yaawwwnnnn....

Is it time to wake from hibernation yet?? Is it October??
Darn.....time to go back to....

zzzzzzzzzz


Anyone know the terms of the Josh Powell signing?

GO LAKERS!

I've noticed that a lot of people are critical of Jordan Farmar's size, but he's an inch taller than beloved Laker Derek Fisher who, when I last checked, has started a lot of games while playing for Phil Jackson.

GO LAKERS!

"Sun Yue will become Magic Johnson when he joins the Lakers. If you are worried about his bulk, that's easy, the In & Out burgers alone will make him as big a Magic. I did not say he will be good as Magic but there is always room for expansion horizontally."
Posted by Edwin Gueco

No! LOL! That would be like comparing Kwa-may Brown to Kevin Garnett and Kevin Durant to Kobe Bryant. Of course its certainly possible but remember Magic was the 1st overall pick back in 1979 and Sun Yue is a 2nd rounder. I know you said skill wise Sun Yue might not be as good as Magic. I would rather think a better comparison would be Boris Diaw in that he can play multiple positions (if Sun Yue bulks up he can probably play even power forward).
Even though Sun Yue is showing flashes of potential in the Olympics, its still too early to say he's the next Magic Johnson.

Don't count out Farmar. Like I said before he has been in the NBA for 2 more years than Sun Yue (1 had Sun Yue actually signed with us last year). So he knows the tricks of the trades plus he probably has more stamina to handle the sch of the NBA than Sun Yue does. If you compare Sun Yue to Magic then its fair to compare Farmar to Steve Nash or even Tony Parker.

However I agree if all else equal skill wise (penetrating the paint, jumpers, and defense especially) Sun Yue would have certainly the edge against Jordan, time will only tell.

>>>Why haven't we fricken resigned Coby Karl yet? What
>>>the hell?

Actually, the Lakers do have a contract with Coby Karl for
next season - it's non-guaranteed, but they do have him under
contract. Assuming he plays well in training camp, I think he'll
be on the roster next season.

LakerTom,

I think Sun Yue was a great signing because the risk is minimal and the reward could be huge. When Mitch and the rest of the front office evaluates players these kinds of things need to be addressed and I think our front office is actually incredibly gifted at it.

I remember reading Ronnie Lester say something regarding the Bynum draft pick and where the team was at the point (did they need immediate impact) and how they knew he was a project but in two to three years would be considered a top 3 pick (if not #1) and that was their line of thinking. I really commend forward thinking management and it's nice to know our guys can go either way (giving up prospects and cap flexibility to get Gasol).

I'm really excited about this team, probably for the simple fact that I agree with what you (and your wife) mentioned...I like these guys. And I really think that each and every guy on the squad is a hard worker. that kind of thing is addictive and usually delivers good results.

Thanks guys for the info!!!

MAMBA... you da man!!

The season can't get here quick enough!!

Tully Moxness,

"To the person who praised Mike Dunleavy's GM ability a while back, I have two words for you:

Yaroslav Korolev"

Touche.

GO LAKERS!

Long Time Laker Fan,

Thanks for effectively shutting up my complaints regarding Coby Karl's resigning. I needed that.

GO LAKERS!

Jon,

My take on Artest as a King? As you know, I marvel at Bills ability and enjoyed watching him thunder down the court. While in rebuilding mode, Ron helped keep attendance from collapsing. I am glad he was here, and, I am glad he is gone. I'm even happier that we picked up two first rounders for him, which was my plan all along.

Go Niners!

Sonnybelfast

"Thanks Sonny. You're the best"

And I know in your heart you really mean it. Thank you so much Miss Piggy.

Sonnybelfast

kobebryantblitz,

Didn't get my joke huh? I said horizontally meaning the belly and weight, not the talents of Magic. How about the vertical growth on Farmar?

LakerTom,

You better correct this Joel Myers who kept on calling him short cut Yu and dropped the e which is pronounced as you said the sound Yu "ah". In the case of Gasol, heard Steve Hartman saying: Gay-sol. It's Spanish so it should be a short ahhh not the long ayyyye.

It goes without saying - accents go in both ways and change much as it leaves its place of origin, so we should not laugh at people with funny accents! Isn't it nice we have a blog and learn something new?

"I've noticed that a lot of people are critical of Jordan Farmar's size, but he's an inch taller than beloved Laker Derek Fisher who, when I last checked, has started a lot of games while playing for Phil Jackson"
Posted by Jon K.

Difference between Fish and Jordan besides size: Fish has a reliable jumper and while Jordan's jumper isn't bad, he isn't the type of guard you want to dish it out to for a jumper. He's more of the classic drive and dish point guard who in the long run could create his own jumper. Check my previous post from last night about having 2 penetrating guards.

To make it short:
Derek Fisher=Bill Paxson
Jordan Farmar=BJ Armstrong

Farmar might get to the all star game (assuming he is the point guard of the Lakers) but with a system that makes the shooting guard the penetrating one, Jordan probably will have to hold his dish and drive when he is out there with Kobe but can play to his style when he's with Sasha.

And in the NBA, size does give an advantage. Doesn't mean though smaller guys like Tony Parker can't succeed.

By the way, does anyone actually think that the Chinese WOMEN'S gymnastic team is actually composed of a bunch of 16 and older WOMEN?

My answer? HELL NO!

GO USA!

GO LAKERS!

Good 2 C Larry Mamba24 in the house!!!

Tom- I hope you are right and I am wrong.

Whomever, Sun Yue is good except he doesn't have a jump shot. Is that a joke?? If you can't shoot and you aren't great at defense, what do you add?

I just pray that Buss isn't concentrating on the Chinese market at the expense of team success.

GOOOoooOOO LAKERS!!

having Lamar guarding guys in the perimeter will help our defense especially with Drew and Pau, two 7 footers. Plus both Drew and Pau can score done in the post as well. Back in 2005-2006 season two 7 footers (Kwa-mey Brown and Chris Mihm) did help clog the lanes for defense purposes but we lacked any low post scoring and Lamar struggled penetrating the severely clogged lanes and Kobe was forced to shoot more perimeter shots since both Chris Mihm and especially Kwa-may Brown weren't good scorers. Having a slow Brian Cook did give us some offense but defense suffered greatly. Same thing happened in 2006-2007 teams again clogged the lane to prevent Kwa-may Brown from doing any scoring and an injured Lamar from doing any damage and Kobe again was forced to shoot. Once Bynum developed and especially with Pau we finally have an equal offense and defense capability and Lamar can defend more aggressively on the perimeter and can penetrate more since teams has to be concerned about not only Drew and Pau, they always have to worry about Kobe with Derek on the perimeter to shoot both long and mid range. Bynum will break out this year and Pau while not a great defender is solid enough to defend against the Power Forwards of today.

Pau limited Tim Duncan (the best Power Forward of all time, yes he will be greater than Barkley, Malone, and Garnett) to 22.4 ppg on 42.6 % shooting and also made Garnett score 18.2ppg on 44.4% shooting and Pau was playing out of position. And this was the same Kevin Garnett who torched Rasheed Wallace for 22.8ppg on 52.1% shooting in the Eastern Conference Finals!

With a solid but not great defender who can pass/score/rebound and think well at Power Forward, a beast at Center, a solid small forward, one of the best perimeter players ever, and a solid jump shooting veteran at point, combined with an ever strengthening bench, the 2008-2009 Lakers look darn good.

"Derek Fisher=Bill Paxson"

Did I miss something? Did another NBA team pick up the lead actor from the movie Twister?

Tom,
you used to play bball in china town? which team?
-boba

A chink in New Orleans armor -

Jannero Pargo just signed with a Russian team.

Guess they're going to be looking for a backup PG.

Long Time Laker Fan,

Jannero Pargo is going to Russia? Crazy.

Well that's good for us. I didn't like Jannero Pargo playing for the Hornets. Nope. Not one little bit.

GO LAKERS!

boba,

>>>>> you used to play bball in china town? which team?

You know, it’s been so long (35 years, LOL) that I can’t remember the name of the team. At the time I was tutoring Cantonese kids in English as a volunteer while attending Cal State LA and I can’t even remember the name of the community center that I worked in but that was where the games were. Pretty good competition, too! And very American style of basketball, including all the foul calling and arguing over calls.

The point I was making was the Sun Yue’s play reminds me more of the guys I played with in that league rather than the usual more passive players on the China national team. I also played against one of the teams from Chinatown in a summer league at Cal State LA. This was back in the days when Raymond Lewis was playing, if there are any other longtime LA basketball junkies. I played against Raymond and he was the greatest shooter that I ever played against, a great 3-point shooter right around the time the ABA put the rule in.

How about you?

Tom

boba,

>>>>> you used to play bball in china town? which team?

You know, it’s been so long (35 years, LOL) that I can’t remember the name of the team. At the time I was tutoring Cantonese kids in English as a volunteer while attending Cal State LA and I can’t even remember the name of the community center that I worked in but that was where the games were. Pretty good competition, too! And very American style of basketball, including all the foul calling and arguing over calls.

The point I was making was the Sun Yue’s play reminds me more of the guys I played with in that league rather than the usual more passive players on the China national team. I also played against one of the teams from Chinatown in a summer league at Cal State LA. This was back in the days when Raymond Lewis was playing, if there are any other longtime LA basketball junkies. I played against Raymond and he was the greatest shooter that I ever played against, a great 3-point shooter right around the time the ABA put the rule in.

How about you?

Tom

thekobebryantblitz,

Does it seem to you that the name “Kwame” has now almost universally translated into failure? We have our own Kwame Brown, the biggest first round bust in NBA history. As a Niners fan, I watched Kwame Harris allow our quarterbacks to be sacked over and over from the blind side. Now I read that Kwame Kilpatrick, the Mayor of Detroit, who is under house arrest for corruption and a host of other charges. It may be time to remove the name from those books of Children’s names that all the 20-somethings are carrying around. LOL.

Tom

AZ,

>>>>> I think our front office is actually incredibly gifted at it.

I think this year will provide the proof to back up that statement. Good take, Andrew.

Tom

whoops thanks for catching my mistake Pig Miller.

It's supposed to be John Paxson not Bill

LOL!

Mamba,

Here is the third try to post Mrs. LakerTom’s comments of the day. She is already ragging on me for the last two attempts getting screwed up. Guess that five less than signs in a row alerts TypePad to ignore what follows.

Anyway, the latest takes from Mrs. LakerTom:

>>>>>

“Without the trolls, the bloggers would spend all of their time destroying each other.
The trolls give them an outlet to vent their anger someone other than other bloggers.”

“She can tell from the posts that Mike T and I were both overaggressive defenders
in our day who mercilessly hacked and fouled every player we ever guarded.”

“AK and BK would both make excellent fathers because they already have solid
experience in handling juvenile delinquents.”

>>>>>

Tom

Edwin,

I still am not a big Joel Myers fan. I actually liked Paul Sunderland and enjoyed him calling some of the Olympics games. He was Chick’s pick to succeed him but apparently Joel somehow aced him out. Joel routinely butchers players’ names. I miss Chick. He would have had some wonderful takes on this team, that’s for sure.

Tom

I'm with you there Jon K. There's something fishy in China, and I don't just mean the boxing.

boba,

As a contrast to how Chinese-Americans play basketball versus Chinese in China, I also played quite a bit of basketball when I was in my 30’s at the YMCA in Kowloon in Hong Kong, where there were actually guys still shooting 2-handed set shots. As a guy who couldn’t earn playing time in JC, I was like Michael Jordan in Kowloon. LOL.

Tom

Jon K, KBblitz:

Nothing wrong with Jordan Farmar, he can be good as Fisher with his last second heroics last season. If he becomes as good as Tony Parker, well and good but he has been inconsistent with his defense for the last two years now. He can't handle the fast guards like Brandon Roy, CP3, Deron Williams, Tony Parker, Rajon Rondo, Monta Ellis, Baron Davis and on and on and on. Therefore, when his contract become due for increase and extentions and he may be asking 60M for 4 years that's where the difference lies, owners would look for a cheaper alternative just like what happened to Ronny Turiaf. Now from the Lakers perspective, all of us in this blog love to speculate, we all want our speculation as the hard fast rule tho' it's just pure guesstimate from a fan's eye view. Nobody here read the mind of kupchak when he got Ariza in the 1st half and Gasol in the 2nd half. Not even the Stat-Man, LTLF who made a living out of memorizing everyone's PER and Stats or the LakerTom who is more optimistic than Confusius. or our basketball mind here who has been preaching the magnificent calves that will plug the middle. Lately, we sense some storms in the horizon when we see a lot of PG's being recruited. They drafted a PG, signed Yue who they drafted last year a PG, signed Karl last year another PG so why five PG's? Karl was the best Laker during the Summer League. That's when you ask questions, is it a possibility that they are packaging a PG and an expiring contract SF or PF for a Center who will take place of another expiring injury-prone Center. In conclusion, there is nothing really wrong with Farmar we're analysing the initial moves by Mitch, what is he hatching up?

Pretty eye opening stuff

http://tinyurl.com/6mnl59

I think China is going to become the new Soviet Union, if the Russians don't revert back to that any day.

Derek Fisher=Bill Paxson
Jordan Farmar=BJ Armstrong

Don't forget

Kobe Bryant=Scottie Pippen

hhahahahahahaha

MrBarneyDangles,

you wrote: Lamar is going to cement his legacy as a great Laker role player

By my count, Lamar has been here for 3 years and has
4 months of being a great role player. The only way he
can cement his legacy is if we re-sign him. If we don't
get him on the cheap we will not have enough $$ to
sign a quality free agent because of Kobe & Pau's
contracts. We have not even spoken about Bynum's....

As I've said before, I would prefer that the Lakers get
someone defensive minded who'll be of all-star quality.
I would love to be proven wrong about Lamar, but I
just don't buy it ... Why do you?

 
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