Sasha responds to the Spanish team photo
Kidding.
The Face actually says nothing about the picture dominating the air and Internet waves. He did, however, talk to Hoopsworld.com about what his off-season work will be like. In a nutshell, there will be a lot and it figures to be pretty intense. For those fans concerned long-term security would make Slovenia's favorite son fat and happy (or just "happy," considering the body type in question), doesn't appear to be an issue. If anything, Sasha seems willing to just vacation vicariously through his family, now in Hawaii on his dime.
On that note, I'm going to heavily peruse my family tree to see if any branches intersect with Sasha's, even 10 to 15 generations back. My family is mostly Polish, but has a little Hungarian mixed in, so it's not completely impossible. I could use me some vay-kay and perhaps distant relations would qualify me for Sly and the Family Vujacic's frequent flier plan.
AK



Dang, Can you imagine what kind of monster Kwame could have become with a work ethic like Sasha's?
Posted by: p amg | August 13, 2008 at 06:23 PM
Gosh, how do you guys keep up with the Lakers Blog even with jobs. I am struggling juggling starting a career and having time to catch up. Or maybe Im still heartbroken over the NBA Finals?? This young'n could use some tips from some of you veterans. And then you guys have families??
Anyways, I HAVE to chime in on the Spanish team photo thing. Nothing major, except, I just want to point out that different expressions are just different in other countries and cultures. Yes I know, duh, but I dont know if this was brought up, but in the USA theres obviously lots of hatred, and violence towards Chinese and Asians over many years in this country, whereas Im not sure there is that type of history in Spain. So here in the US theres a lot of racial insensitivity BASED on the prior history.
So about the pose, think of this: If Chinese were never discriminated against, would this be an offensive gesture?? I always go back to the idea that if there was no issue in the first place, then these sorts of problems wouldnt arise. If in Spain they never had problems with Asians, why would they see this as offensive??
Second, what bothers me is that people always have the gall to fault others for their actions but never look into their own. People in LA always say that Asians cant drive because they cant see or whatever. Or that Hispanics have big families or other BS. And as far as the Robert Downey Jr. character, I see it as NO different than the Spanish team act. AK you're wrong. An advertisement is entertainment, not journalism. So if you think humorous enterainment poking fun at a stereotype is funny, then so is the advertisement. It's still satire. Funny or not. Anyways, they'll figure it out and everyone will get over it.
As far as Basketball is concerned, one thing that Matt Goukas mentioned about Pau in the Greece game was that he is a rhythm player, meaning that he needs to get touches. Did Pau get any touches in the NBA Finals? He got really bad posessions is what he got. He needs to get better touches, let half the posessions flow through his hands and youll see results. I HAVE SAID SINCE DAY ONE, that PAU NEEDS TOUCHES. Pau can drop 22 a game if Phil Jackson utilizes Pau. Pau is not Bynum where he needs pick and rolls and alley oops, but that does not diminish his skills. In fact he has more SKill, less athletic ability.
Posted by: The Lake Show | August 13, 2008 at 06:34 PM
Oh and AK, you've missed a great opportunity to dedicate a blog to the RETURN OF ROUNDBALL ROCK!
Posted by: The Lake Show | August 13, 2008 at 06:35 PM
Dude's on a mission. And I don't just mean to win my heart lol.
Go Sasha!
Posted by: Faith | August 13, 2008 at 06:44 PM
AK,
Thanks for the Sasha thread. I was thinking about Sasha as I read the news stories about Sun Yue facing future teammates Kobe Bryant and Pau Gasol. Obviously, either Sasha is not playing for the Slovenian team or the team didn’t qualify to compete in the Olympics. From the linked article, it also almost sounds as if Sasha has relocated to LA all-year around in his quest to become the best “shooter” in pro basketball.
One of the possible roster scenarios for the Lakers next year has to be Kobe moving to small forward to bring Sasha’s 3-point game into play more than just subbing for Kobe. With Drew and Pau dominating inside, it’s not impossible to foresee situations where the Lakers might consider moving Sasha into the starting lineup. It will be a luxury the team will have due to inside-out style of play that Drew and Pau will enable them to play.
I’ve also been surprised to not have seen any news of reporters asking Sun Yue about playing against his future Lakers teammates or Kobe or Pau about what they thought of Sun Yue. I am just amazed at the knocks that have been made at Sun, especially the ridiculous analysis by the supposed NBA “insider.” I thought that Sun Yue showed good poise, outstanding ball handling and passing, excellent speed and quickness, and a smooth and accurate shooting stroke. The guy is a steal for a second round pick.
I also question whether John Black knows what he is talking about saying that the Lakers are looking at Sun Yue as a shooting guard. The guy is a perfect point guard for Phil’s Triangle Offense at a genuine 6-9 with long arms. And he can handle and dish the ball. He is a smaller, quicker, faster, and better shooting version of Lamar Odom for every blogger that wanted to see 6-10 Lamar at point. The big difference is that Sun Yue at 6-9 may have the speed and quickness to actually be able to consistently play point guard.
Watching Pau and Marc Gasol against Sun Yue and China, you have to give Mitch Kupchak some credit. Marc is going to be a quality NBA center. And it is easy to see why the Grizzlies wanted him as part of the deal for Pau. Marc Gasol and Sun Yue may turn out to be one of the best pair of second round draft picks that any NBA general manager has ever made before their careers are over.
But back to Sasha, you have to believe that Phil plans to get him more minutes and points next year. He would be especially lethal in the game with Drew. For the same reason, I think it’s also too early to count Vlade out of the picture. After all, he did shoot 40% from the 3-point line. There may be times when we see both Sasha and Vlade on the floor next year as the threat of the 3-point shot is the easiest way to open up the middle for Drew.
Anyway, great to hear that Sasha is working hard on his game. And we know that Pau, Kobe, and Sun Yue are playing their hearts out in Beijing, Jordan is trying to bring peace to the Middle East, and Drew is driving himself in Hotlanta. That just leaves Luke and Vlade, who are probably working hard to shed their “soft” label by honing their tans. Less “white” is less “soft,” you know. LOL.
Tom
Posted by: LakerTom | August 13, 2008 at 07:03 PM
I have been re-watching the Lakers games from the past three years, and noticed something ... everytime Sasha made his Sasha-face, there was someone of Asian descent in the arena.
I'm pretty sure he was making fun of them.
Posted by: exhelodrvr | August 13, 2008 at 07:13 PM
AK,
Not to continue the never ending discussion about the Spanish team photo, but I just read somebody’s post that mentioned that the photo was for an advertisement. All of a sudden a light sort of clicked in my mind and I got this image of what the photo director might have been trying to do which was really harmless. I used to hire ad directors and creative directors to direct fashion apparel shots for Vogue Magazine ads and I know how these guys think. So follow me here:
You’re an ad director who wants to get a shot of the Spanish team because your client is one of their sponsors or whatever. So the challenge is what is your tagline or hook to make the shot look different from a high school yearbook, to make it a great billboard? Well, let’s see these guys are going to go to the Olympics. Maybe, we could do a “We’re going to Disneyland” type of thing but make in Beijing instead. Now how could we do that? I know, we’ll have all the guys do this funny thing to make their eyes look Chinese. That will help get across the message. I can see the headline: “We’re Going to Beijing!” With team all smiles and looking very “Chinese.” That’s how these things happen. LOL.
Tom
Posted by: LakerTom | August 13, 2008 at 07:29 PM
The Lake Show,
A lot of bad events went down in the Phillipines, both at the hands of the Spanish and the United States.
It's not the same as occurring on the Spanish mainland, but it's still a very Spanish event.
I don't know if Spain had anyone as bad as Jack London though. He wrote a story likening Asians to insects and advocating their genocide.
http://tinyurl.com/6yblvw
It's darkly ironic that Jack London Square is a part of Oakland which has a very large Asian population.
Posted by: Benjamin | August 13, 2008 at 07:31 PM
Faith,
C'mon, we already know Sasha has won your heart. That mission was a success.
Posted by: Benjamin | August 13, 2008 at 07:31 PM
Spanish team photo
I wondered how the Chinese might react to the photo of the Spanish team so I wrote to a very close American friend of mine who has lived in China for the last 20 years to ask his opinion. He doesn't think that the Chinese would be the least bit offended. In fact, he was slightly confused by my letter and asked me whether I was asking him what I thought about the Spanish being offended by the picture.
Here's a portion of the letter he sent to me:
"China is a bit odd in some respects. One one hand, mutual respect and politeness, particularly between strangers or casual acquaintances is a very important thing and you need to avoid making people (or yourself) lose face. On the other hand, "PC" as we know it is almost non-existent, and between friends, or in certain social contexts (presumed familiarity in informal settings) between strangers, and Chinese may express themselves in a very direct and "colorful" way.
For example, Chinese nicknames like "Fatty" (Pong-Pong) or "Big Dumpling" (Da Bao) are affectionately applied to fat people, sometimes even to strangers, and this would be totally insulting and unacceptable in the West. "Hey Big Dumpling, what time is it?"
Having visited Chris a few times and having discussed the Chinese culture with him on many occasions this is more or less what I expected his response to be.
Posted by: giantsquid | August 13, 2008 at 07:40 PM
True, he's fighting to keep it then lol.
Posted by: Faith | August 13, 2008 at 07:43 PM
The Lake Show,
"And as far as the Robert Downey Jr. character, I see it as NO different than the Spanish team act. AK you're wrong. An advertisement is entertainment, not journalism. So if you think humorous enterainment poking fun at a stereotype is funny, then so is the advertisement. It's still satire. Funny or not. Anyways, they'll figure it out and everyone will get over it."
I'm totally lost. Advertisement is entertainment, not journalism? I don't follow at all. Can you phrase it differently?
I also think there's a chance you're missing the point of the Downey character. As I explained, it's actually meant to poke fun at Hollywood actors who take themselves seriously, as opposed to black culture. Again, the device may not "work" successfully as satire, but it's still meant to have a point, even if misfired. The picture, however, makes no statement whatsoever, outside of immaturity and a total lack of common sense.
AK
Posted by: Andrew Kamenetzky | August 13, 2008 at 08:08 PM
Sasha Sasha Sasha.
366 encouraging words dedicated to shooting, scoring, working, commitment.
Absent 1 critical word that would guarantee *team* improvement.
It begins with "d."
Posted by: latopia | August 13, 2008 at 08:27 PM
REPOST
At the risk of sounding racist to some people, I'm gonna say that when I saw the picture I did not see anything wrong with it. By that I mean that if I was a member of the Spanish team I would not have apologized for it and I really cannot understand why anyone would be offended by it. Slant-eyes are as culturally taboo in mind as Wisconsin being known for cheese. I really don't get what the whole problem is about. And let's not be hypocritical, because there are so many movies and instances in American popular culture where different races are stereotyped with things that are worse than slant-eyes. And please let's not call people racist without checking ourselves.
I will change my opinion when and if I hear that most of the Chinese population finds it very offensive. From what I have read the two people that commented on this blog and are Chinese did not find it to be even bothersome.
Posted by: laker hopeful | August 13, 2008 at 08:46 PM
Exhelodrvr,great last few posts... \m/
Posted by: (o_O) | August 13, 2008 at 09:04 PM
AK -
What are you using to trace your family history? I was thinking about doing that, but I'm not too sure how to do it.
Posted by: Caliphilosopher | August 13, 2008 at 09:10 PM
Caliphilosopher,
That was actually a joke. I have no idea how to go about tracing a family tree. Sorry.
AK
Posted by: Andrew Kamenetzky | August 13, 2008 at 09:13 PM
AK,
If you are actually interested in tracing your family tree, there are a number of web sites that give info on how to go about it; nowadays a lot of it can be done remotely (a lot of the birth/death/wedding/baptismal/property/etc. records have been scanned into to online-accessible sites.) I have never done it myself, but a couple of my aunts have, and it's pretty interesting.
Posted by: exhelodrvr | August 13, 2008 at 09:23 PM
Ex,
I hadn't been interested, but now that everyone else seems geeked for me to do it, maybe I will. haha
Thanks for the heads up.
AK
Posted by: Andrew Kamenetzky | August 13, 2008 at 09:26 PM
Regarding the Spanish Team pic; i got to say i am not offended at all and i have asian blood. I think people just overeacts too much, it is plain ridiculous. They apologized, move on and don't dwell. Now what i find really amusing...well quiet annoying really is Mike T's posts!!! I don't know how you guys can stand this man. It is obvious he used the pic issue as his vehicle to diss and bag on Gasol even more. Like i said before, Mike T's stage is this blog... Pau's is much more bigger and brighter etc etc you get the picture..can you imagine if it was the other way around? OH help us!!! Hey Mike, i know you have racism in you, just admit it. Man up dude and stop thinking you are better than any of us. Go Lakers!
Posted by: hyns | August 13, 2008 at 10:23 PM
In regards to tracing your family tree:
I heard in my medical ecology class that "national geographic" had some promotion to trace mitochondrial DNA for like $150. Supposedly, you would provide a swab of your saliva and send it in to trace your ancestors
Posted by: du ma | August 13, 2008 at 10:50 PM
Don't forget the work the Mormons have done.
Supposedly they have one of the most complete geneology records available in North America. They're obsessed with your descent vis-a-vis early Mormons is supposedly the reason why.
http://www.ancestorhunt.com/mormon_church_records.htm
tiny url form:
http://tinyurl.com/ayzaf
AK,
Caught that maybe that's not your fancy, but thought this inclusion might be interesting for anyone inclined toward studying geneology anyway so figured I'd post it.
Posted by: Benjamin | August 13, 2008 at 11:04 PM
Sasha should keep doing those offseason work outs and especially on shots where he pump fakes the on coming defender then he moves to a certain spots to shoot which does lessen his focus for his shot. Sasha has been doing great and 43% from 3 point arc means he is a good long range distance shooter and at least got 45% shooting overall which is still good for a guard. Just keep improving the shooting plus the defense (his big body is really quite effective against shooting guards rather than point guards where he was regularly beaten off the dribble, and to a degree small forwards as well, just don't make him go against Lebron!)
Posted by: thekobebryantblitz | August 13, 2008 at 11:41 PM
"One of the possible roster scenarios for the Lakers next year has to be Kobe moving to small forward to bring Sasha’s 3-point game into play more than just subbing for Kobe. With Drew and Pau dominating inside, it’s not impossible to foresee situations where the Lakers might consider moving Sasha into the starting lineup. It will be a luxury the team will have due to inside-out style of play that Drew and Pau will enable them to play."
posted by: Laker Tom
I would not forsee Phil doing this unless late in games, foul trouble on Lamar, or to increase 3 point shooting if he feels Sasha and Derek is shooting lights out. Small Forward for Kobe means this: increased offense, as Kobe can penetrate more since he is faster than most Small Forwards, yet gives up some defense as there are small forwards who are bit stronger than Kobe. The opposite is true since Kobe can play great defense at the 3 (he held Paul Pierce to 3-13 shooting during 3 quarters of game 6) but would sap his energy at the offensive end as he would guard against bigger guys than him like Carmelo Anthony and Lebron James. And while it would be ideally good having Sasha at the 2 for 3 point shooting, teams could easily use box in 1 zone to lure Kobe in the middle of the key and cover up the passing lanes to Drew and Pau and to the outside to Fish and Sasha as well thus making Kobe to be forced to shoot contested jumpers.
The idea I heard that the Lakers were planning was to put Kobe at Small Forward and Lamar take either guard spot. While this sound absurd (yes when I first saw it, it didn't sound right) in another way it makes sense. Yes Kobe would face problems at small forward as well the benefits but having LO at least guard the shooting guards would take much pressure of Kobe if he had to guard guards like Ray Allen, Michael Redd, and Brandon Roy, guards who are excellent at shooting. Giving Lamar to guard them for defense would not only take the pressure off Kobe of guarding them but also a bit better defensively since Lamar is taller and bigger than them. On the offensive side would be good too as while not having an effective jump shot as Kobe, having guards guard Lamar would risk him posting them which can either lead to open lanes to pass the ball, if the defender calls on another to double team, or be weak on a post up. During the Denver series, Luke was against a smaller man on the Denver bench and when he posted him up, even Luke managed to score, so its possible that Lamar at a guard spot could work. And even if LO cannot stop the jump shooting at least the post up against guards could tire them out more than had they been guarding against other guards, which could lead to either the guards going to the bench early or making them miss their shots even more.
About Sun Yue, in my opinon he should play point guard behind Derek and Jordan. HIs playmaking skills are awesome even though his jumper is not as good as it should be. He looks to be the penetrating guard that likes to kick it out to open team mates. In my opinion he could be a bit better than Jordan in the long run since he can penetrate, possibly improve the jumper, and can post his defender up, something Jordan cannot do much because of his height And because he's a guard, he can play the NBA style game more to his style unlike Yi or Yao who are front court players and wasn't used to the style of the NBA even though the big men physical style of the NBA is getting watered down ever since they threw so many rules like the rules about handchecking, defensive 3 seconds, and the arc around the basket. Time will tell how Sun Yue is but for the mean time, him being on the team will of course bring extra revenue to the Lakers from Asian-American (particularly Chinese) ticket buyers just like what Yao did for Houston and Yi will do for the Nets. More money means more money to pay the luxury tax and other salaries.
Thats my two cents.
Posted by: thekobebryantblitz | August 14, 2008 at 12:12 AM
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Ex,
"And there's the problem. Racism does not exist in the "victim." Racism exists in the "racist." Just because someone thinks an action is racist does not mean that it's racist."
Whether or not the Spanish team's intent was to be "racist" or not is debatable. We will never know. At the very least, it was extremely insensitive and ignorant. Ignorance promotes racism. Intentional or not, there was harm done. What is not debatable is the effect these kinds of ignorant acts by public figures have on tolerance and respect for diversity within our society. People that are not aware of the plight of other minority groups need to be aware of the ugly history of discrimination and bigotry that these kinds of actions represent. Fair or not, anybody that understands this history will associate this kind of "ignorant" behavior to racism.
I've heard plenty of pathetic excuses for the actions of the Spanish team on this blog, but one excuse that I find somewhat acceptable is they didn't know any better. Fine, if that's the case, than hopefully they have learned from this experience, and will hopefully use better judgment the next time they are in a similar situation. BUT, if people (like you) continue to condone this type of behavior, there will never be any public outcry or backlash. If nobody tells the Spanish team what they did was wrong, the Spanish team will remain ignorant and insensitive to other groups. This in turn will promote even more ignorance amongst the Spanish citizens. Based on how the Spanish soccer fans treat black soccer players, ignorance (or racism?) is running rampant over there.
peace
GO LAKERS.
P.S. The Chinese citizens that were not offended, for the most part, grew up in a country where there is really only one race. In other words, they have never personally experienced racism. The Asians, along with other minorities, living in more Westernized countries have experienced it, and would have a very different opinion of the photo.
Posted by: LAKER TRUTH aka SASHA | August 14, 2008 at 12:29 AM
Hi,
Im Spanish and I would like to tell you some things...
1º Spain is not a racist country
2º The famous picture (now is really famous...thank you for the publicity) is not racist... is only funny and kindly with the chinesses... Spain never have had racist problems with asian people or with other community
3º I Think that this problem is because US have scare of Spain team and is better to change the subjet...
4º I recommeded you that first know the spanish culture and after you´ll be able to talk about this problem
I think that US is a wonderfull country like Spain but I would like that you will worry of the racist case in your country too
Thank you for your attention
regards
Posted by: Juan | August 14, 2008 at 02:29 AM
Laker Hopeful,
I'm not being critical of you personally, but I'd like to expand on your comments.
"Slant Eyes" as you call it is far, far from being non-offensive. It's not at all a good analogy to say it's simliar to a picture of the Spanish team eating cheese ahead of the Milwaukee Olympics. It's not like Pau was drinking Bubble Tea and saying 'I love China- Let's go to Beijing!'
"Slant eyes" as you call it is a straight up racial slur. Asians do not find it charming. An equivalent would be the Spanish football team being photographed in blackface ahead of the 2010 South Africa World Cup.
I'm mad as hell about this photo. Racism is rampant in Spanish society. Ask Thierry Henri what's up.
DP
Posted by: Dieselpower | August 14, 2008 at 04:29 AM
Sólo personas, o personajillos, tan timoratos como ignorantes, tan hipócritas como incultos, entienden como ofensivo el anuncio del equipo olímpico español de baloncesto. Sí, es ofensivo para estos gacetilleros que este equipo pueda ganar la medalla de oro y no el estadounidense, así que tienen que buscar distracciones para ganar, fieles a su sentido histórico de "juego sucio". En su país, hecho a base de prejuicios, soberbia y genocidios, encaja mal el sentido del humor, solo entienden la intolerancia y el autoritarismo de su egoísmmo. Que no intente engañar el viejo moralista, que sus intereses bastardos huelen tan mal que ya ha llegado a España. El gesto de la selección española, aunque muy simple, es humor simpático e inocente, desprovisto de la más mínima intención racista. De todas formas, si cualquier persona asiática se ha sentido ofendida, Pau o un portavoz adecuado puede disculparse con ellos, explicando que de xenofobia, nada de nada. Gestos amistosos que demuestren que hay buena voluntad. Pero que el señor Bill Plaschke no nos dé lecciones, que no se meta en la cocina del mundo como si le perteneciera a su y, sobre todo, que actúe de manera tan repugnante en la privacidad de su pequeña inteligencia
Posted by: manuel | August 14, 2008 at 06:16 AM
Good morning everyone,
I hope the rest of the Lakers are watching the commitment to Defense exhibited by Kobe and the Redeem Team. This is great basketball. These are players who recognize that unselfish offense and personal challenges in the achievement of defense equals winning basketball.
Sure, the Redeem Team represents the finest athletes in the NBA. Sure, international play is a different style of basketball. But the principle that strong defense creates offensive opportunities is the same.
Watching the Lakers failure to commit and softness on defense year after year is the height of frustration. All the discussion on this blog about how many points the Lakers will score, as opposed to how many points the Lakers will hold their opponents to is largely irrelevant.
Great defensive basketball is more fun to watch.
The Laker coaching staff must change its mindset if the team is to make another run at the NBA Championship.
The West is full of teams with guys who can score. Whomever they face in the East will be able to do the same. Shutting down the opponent must become a priority if the Lakers are to have a victory parade next June.
Can Phil Jackson evolve and rise to this challenge? Can players who seem to challenge themselves only every third game commit to consistency? The return of the Beast will help. But all nine or ten players in the regular rotation must aspire to Gold Medal defensive achievement. We know it can be done. Go Lakers!
Posted by: Rick Friedman | August 14, 2008 at 06:52 AM
Good day all,
Just want to throw my two pennies into the Spaniard photo and Sasha's off-season work.
1. I think people need to really tone it down and breathe easy. It's apparent they meant no harm, so lets build a nice long bridge and 'get over it!' Was it STUPID on their part? Absolutely. But then again who doesn't momentarily F up from time to time!?
2. I am very glad to read that Sasha is dedicating more time and effort in the off-season. This will definitely pay dividends in the reg season and play offs. I know Sasha has been doing his thing in the off-season before this, but it feels good to hear that after signing a shorter contract length than he wanted, he still made it a point to go hard (pause).
GO TEAM USA!
GO LA!
Posted by: Blaze1Bx | August 14, 2008 at 06:59 AM
TEAM USA
They put on a show this morning. It was the best performance this team has put on in years. We only won by like 20, but it definitely would have been more without a whole second half of garbage play.
Dwayne Wade has been tremendous. He's completely back from his injuries and he looks to be on a mission to regain his reputation. The thing I'm liking the most is that he and Kobe have turned the page on their respective Shaq-eras, and have become friends. It's showing on the court too. Wade and Kobe are really picking each other up on the court. It's a great thing to see.
LeBron James is an animal. This guy does things on the court that are ridiculous.
Today, team USA just ran Greece out of the gym in the 2nd qtr. We were pushing the ball like I've never seen a team do before. It was full speed off of makes and misses. It was the Phoenix Suns on crack, with lots of defense in the form of steals and blocks mixed in.
Next is Spain. If we play like we did today, Spain will have no chance. Team USA is just in too good of shape and we're too fast for anyone. Count it as another win for the round eyed ones.
Posted by: Rocky | August 14, 2008 at 07:08 AM
USA - Greece notes from http://goldenarmor.wordpress.com/
2008/08/14/usa-greece-notes/
Dwyane Wade and Kobe hooked up for the play of the summer. Wade saved and ball from going out of bounds, and alley-ooped it to Kobe, who stretched out with both arms and slammed it home. I don't think I've seen Kobe get up that high in years.
Posted by: Amazing_Happens | August 14, 2008 at 07:39 AM
As it seems to be tough to change the subject... here's an interesting take from Henry Abbott at True Hoop on the photo.
http://tinyurl.com/6ffrwn
BK
Posted by: Brian Kamenetzky | August 14, 2008 at 08:46 AM
Rick,
Excellent post from you as usual.
>>>>>Sure, the Redeem Team represents the finest athletes in the NBA.
>>>>>Sure, international play is a different style of basketball.
>>>>>But the principle that strong defense creates offensive opportunities is the same.
Watching Kobe Bryant’s defensive efforts playing for Team USA should be making Lakers fans eager to see the same kind of defensive effort when he plays for the Lakers. With Drew’s ability to protect the rim and control the boards on defense, the Lakers need to have Kobe and the rest of the team focus on aggressive perimeter defense designed to force steals and turnovers and fuel fast break opportunities.
>>>>>Watching the Lakers failure to commit and softness on defense year after year
>>>>>is the height of frustration.
While everybody agrees with this statement, most bloggers still resist the Lakers having Kobe focus on defense, despite the fact that that is what this team needs from him most. Instead, they continue to claim that doing so would detract too much from his offense. The truth is that the Lakers would be a better team overall by having Kobe focus more on defense and making Drew and Pau our primary offensive options in our half court offense. It would give us better ball movement and a more balanced offense.
>>>>>All the discussion on this blog about how many
>>>>>points the Lakers will score, as opposed to how many points the Lakers will
>>>>>hold their opponents to is largely irrelevant.
>>>>>Great defensive basketball is more fun to watch.
Everybody ignores the point that an aggressive defense will generate more points on offense. A pressing trapping defense with Drew playing free safety to protect the rim is the perfect partner for a wide open running game in transition. It is Showtime 2. It is the John Wooden Bruins championship teams. It is the style of basketball that Jerry Buss and Phil Jackson want to see the Lakers play. I believe it is what we will see from the Lakers next year.
>>>>>The return of the Beast will help. But all nine or ten players in the regular
>>>>>rotation must aspire to Gold Medal defensive achievement.
>>>>>We know it can be done. Go Lakers!
As I said before, Kobe is the player that needs to lead in this area just as he has for Team USA. The Lakers will have so much offensive fire power with Drew and Pau so that Kobe can lead the defensive resurgence we need to win the NBA title this year.
Tom
Posted by: LakerTom | August 14, 2008 at 09:34 AM
From the Article BK posted:
"One dumb mistake is lamentable, and there has been fallout for the players, certainly. But the advertiser who commissioned the photo, and has seen the issue play out, and is reportedly still sticking with the campaign?"
http://myespn.go.com/blogs/truehoop/
0-33-174/Some-Jokes-Aren-t-Funny.html
A lot has been said on this already. Personally I liken the situation to a white person painting their face black. A gesture that's found offensive in the states, but whilst I was growing up in west africa I would have interpreted it the same way as an arab painting their face pink (i.e. it'd be of no significant meaning). However having lived in the states and been made aware that painting your face black is a rude gesture, I'd now take offense to it.
Point being I can understand how the slanted eyes may not have been perceived as rude by either spanish or the chinese themselves. I can definately understand the fact that this was requested by the sponsor etc and thus spanish team should not be blamed for this. However now that it's come to light that certain people find it offensive they should just apologise and kill the add. Apologies of sorts have been given by various members of the team and that's sufficient for me but I do agree with the espn article which is looking for something more formal along the lines of an apology from the sponsor as well as killing the advert, that'd definately go a long way towards showing that spain is sensitive to the racial undertones of the picture
Posted by: Taliq | August 14, 2008 at 10:21 AM
LakerTom,
"The truth is that the Lakers would be a better team overall by having Kobe focus more on defense and making Drew and Pau our primary offensive options in our half court offense. "
I don't think that Kobe has to "focus" on one or the other. As far as skill goes, onn offense, Kobe is the #1option, Gasol #2, Bynum #3. But they have all shown a willingness for, and skill at, passing. That gives this roster a great amount of flexibility on offense, and a great ability to take advantage of mismatches. This is especially true if FIsher/Farmar/Sasha/Vlad/Luke can hit open threes, and Lamar/Ariza move well without the ball. So Kobe can focus on defense some nights, offense some nights, depending on the opponent.
And that flexibility also means that the opponent has to react much more to the Lakers than vice versa; that's will greatly benefit the Lakers.
Posted by: exhelodrvr | August 14, 2008 at 10:51 AM
Hi from Spain...
It is starting to be quite funny to see how fond US people is in an inocent photo... now even Jason Kidd says that they will be off the games if they had done the same!!! Dios Mio!!! If they are even allowed to start every single attack with NBA rules when Olympics are supposse to be played with FIBA rules!!!!!!
The point is that in Spain we never had problems with Asiatic people, and basically we do not mock them, so for us that thing of the eyes is just an innocent gesture, and not something to be used as a racist weapon. Actually I would say that from all the inmigrants they are the most respected.
And a lot of you say that racism is rampant in Spain... well as in any other country (let's say... yours....), and there is always stupid people such as the hooligans in football that shout stupid things thinking that they defend their football team, and that of course must be punished, but this has nothing to do with the famous photo.
By the way, for all of you that wrote that we were insensitive, and wrote "Spaniard", you should know that we could also consider that racist... of course, that would be in USA, not in Spain.... see how different things are....
Posted by: mae | August 14, 2008 at 12:08 PM
thekobebryantblitz,
Defensive 3 second violations have actually replaced the old illegal defense calls. The whole change overall allowed greater zone defenses making it tougher, not easier, to score. I think part of the reason they stopped allowing hand-checking is because their loosening of zone D rules made it harder for the perimeter player and they wanted to keep the game dynamic and interesting instead of slow and plodding.
The "arc around the basket" as you call it which most know as the restricted area just gives a slight advantage to the offensive player. It's like the offsides rule change made by FIFA in the early 1990s. It doesn't provide a huge change, just makes the game slightly more interesting by giving a slight advantage to the offensive player. You should be blocking shots not trying for charges right under the basket anyway.
How this dilutes the NBA, I have no idea. As you might notice, almost all the best player in the Olympics are playing in the NBA. Some of the better ones (like Sarunas Jasikevicius) had a stint in the NBA.
The NBA easily has more, better talent than every foreign league combined. Additionally, the average level of talent is higher, though shooting may be slightly inferior because FIBA rules allow any zone D and thus force more outside shooting.
If you're some kind of shooting fundamentalist, I can see how you might bemoan the NBA versus FIBA teams. If you like slashing and attacking the basket as well as post play, the NBA is far more interesting than FIBA rules leagues.
Your whole concept of dilution strikes me as very misinformed.
Posted by: Benjamin | August 14, 2008 at 12:10 PM
To follow what Rick Friedman said...
Even if tough D means putting an elbow into Paul Pierce's sternum, the Lakers didn't have it and could use it. Some gesture of defiance. A Luke flagrant under the basket saying "no layups," a Kwame grabbing a guy, tossing him to the ground and standing over his supine body like in 05-06 vs. Phoenix.
I'd like to see Kobe come out strong like he did early last season. I'd also like Kobe to keep his damn focus. He's always roving and forgetting his guy on the perimeter who then goes on to shoot and score. It's been happening in the Olympics too.
The rest of the team needs to follow Kobe's example and the coaching staff need to make it clear that's how we're going to play ball.
Posted by: Benjamin | August 14, 2008 at 12:19 PM
Personally I think the photo is no big deal. But contrary to popular opinion Europe does have a racist past and Spain was heavily involved in slave trading. I'm tired of hearing about America's racist past as if the rest of the world was any different.
Posted by: spar | August 14, 2008 at 03:31 PM
spar,
I'm with you, particularly considering the inherent racism of imperialist/colonizing culture of England, France, Spain, Portugal, and Holland.
US does deserve a bit of a knock for holding out with slavery for the longest.
The death penalty isn't exactly considered the most civilized either. I'm not proud that we share the death penalty with a bunch of harsh, totalitarian regimes.
Posted by: Benjamin | August 14, 2008 at 05:45 PM
If you see racism in that photo is, becouse racism is inside of you!. You poor people, USA is the only western country where you can find racist problems. Can´t you see it?. What about the us team in the japan basketball worldcup... I can´t understand your country... go attack any poor country, is what you do best
Posted by: JOHANES | August 16, 2008 at 05:07 AM
JOHANES,
You make a ridiculous argument. Stay in whatever soulless, envious country you're in and we'll continue to enjoy living in the greatest nation on Earth.
GO USA!
GO LAKERS!
Posted by: Jon K. | August 16, 2008 at 09:17 AM
AK,
My father's side of the family is Ukrainian-Slovak-Croatian-Polish-Slovenian-Hungarian (in decending order of prominence), so there's a highly remote possibility of us being related.
Scary, huh?
GO LAKERS!
Posted by: Jon K. | August 16, 2008 at 01:35 PM
Sasha's got Kobe's work ethic. Awesome.
Next year is going to be a good year.
GO LAKERS!
Posted by: Jon K. | August 16, 2008 at 01:37 PM
LakerTom,
I also question whether John Black knows what he is talking about saying that the Lakers are looking at Sun Yue as a shooting guard. The guy is a perfect point guard for Phil’s Triangle Offense at a genuine 6-9 with long arms. And he can handle and dish the ball. He is a smaller, quicker, faster, and better shooting version of Lamar Odom for every blogger that wanted to see 6-10 Lamar at point. The big difference is that Sun Yue at 6-9 may have the speed and quickness to actually be able to consistently play point guard.
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I pretty much agree with most of your post but I want to elaborate a little on this portion. Especially the last sentence. I don't see too much of a problem with the defensive assinment because of cross defending. Lets say assuming Kobe is playing sg or sf then SY could play offensively at PG but cross play sg or sf on defense. This would let sg or sf play defense on pg depending on matchups.
The main problem will be pt as i don't see PJ changing his ways and giving SY many meaningful minutes.
Posted by: JustaLakerFan | August 17, 2008 at 01:54 PM
Rick,
Excellent post from you as usual.
>>>>>Sure, the Redeem Team represents the finest athletes in the NBA.
>>>>>Sure, international play is a different style of basketball.
>>>>>But the principle that strong defense creates offensive opportunities is the same.
Watching Kobe Bryant’s defensive efforts playing for Team USA should be making Lakers fans eager to see the same kind of defensive effort when he plays for the Lakers. With Drew’s ability to protect the rim and control the boards on defense, the Lakers need to have Kobe and the rest of the team focus on aggressive perimeter defense designed to force steals and turnovers and fuel fast break opportunities.
>>>>>Watching the Lakers failure to commit and softness on defense year after year
>>>>>is the height of frustration.
While everybody agrees with this statement, most bloggers still resist the Lakers having Kobe focus on defense, despite the fact that that is what this team needs from him most. Instead, they continue to claim that doing so would detract too much from his offense. The truth is that the Lakers would be a better team overall by having Kobe focus more on defense and making Drew and Pau our primary offensive options in our half court offense. It would give us better ball movement and a more balanced offense.
>>>>>All the discussion on this blog about how many
>>>>>points the Lakers will score, as opposed to how many points the Lakers will
>>>>>hold their opponents to is largely irrelevant.
>>>>>Great defensive basketball is more fun to watch.
Everybody ignores the point that an aggressive defense will generate more points on offense. A pressing trapping defense with Drew playing free safety to protect the rim is the perfect partner for a wide open running game in transition. It is Showtime 2. It is the John Wooden Bruins championship teams. It is the style of basketball that Jerry Buss and Phil Jackson want to see the Lakers play. I believe it is what we will see from the Lakers next year.
>>>>>The return of the Beast will help. But all nine or ten players in the regular
>>>>>rotation must aspire to Gold Medal defensive achievement.
>>>>>We know it can be done. Go Lakers!
As I said before, Kobe is the player that needs to lead in this area just as he has for Team USA. The Lakers will have so much offensive fire power with Drew and Pau so that Kobe can lead the defensive resurgence we need to win the NBA title this year.
Tom
Posted by: LakerTom | August 14, 2008 at 09:34 AM
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LakerTom
As usual I agree with you but my reservations come from the one statement you posted by Rick.
>>>>>Watching the Lakers failure to commit and softness on defense year after year
>>>>>is the height of frustration.
That commitment starts in season with the coach. PJ has always been an offensive first coach and plays some defense. But I don't see that Byron Scott or Coach K commitment to defense brings, become one of PJ's strong points or goals.
So until staff decides to play and deploy strong defense we will see more of the same and hope the return of AB and TA will be enough. I hope we don't pin our hopes on that and that we have a team commitment to defense.
Posted by: JustaLakerFan | August 17, 2008 at 02:13 PM
I don't think that Kobe has to "focus" on one or the other. As far as skill goes, onn offense, Kobe is the #1option, Gasol #2, Bynum #3. But they have all shown a willingness for, and skill at, passing. That gives this roster a great amount of flexibility on offense, and a great ability to take advantage of mismatches. This is especially true if FIsher/Farmar/Sasha/Vlad/Luke can hit open threes, and Lamar/Ariza move well without the ball. So Kobe can focus on defense some nights, offense some nights, depending on the opponent.
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Ex,
I don't see Pau as #2 and AB #3. I think AB is a bigger and stronger player and has better inside game. He will demand at least double team so he will be our second option. When he is doubled Pau is open then for the #3 option and/or #1 option Kobe.
Just my HO.
Posted by: JustaLakerFan | August 17, 2008 at 02:18 PM