Question of the day: Olympic hoops
The Olympic basketball tournament is about to start (word is that Kobe guy is playing). I'll admit, in terms of attention paid and depth of emotional investment, I've been pretty lax regarding both the hoops contest and the Games in general. Now that things are rolling (I'm currently watching men's rowing), I'll probably pay closer attention ... but generally prefer watching sports I otherwise wouldn't see (men's rowing, for example). I'd by lying if I said I was wrapped up in whether the U.S. wins a hardwood gold. Not that I'm rooting against them, I've just become accustomed to the notion that it's an international game now, and the rest of the world is pretty good. Add in the different rules (and often questionable whistles) of FIBA ball, and the days of an American team -- no matter who is on it -- being guaranteed victory are over. That said, it should be some entertaining ball, worth watching.
Which brings me to the QOTD: Very simple. On a scale of 1-10, how much do you care about the "Redeem Team" and the Olympic basketball tourney? Are you watching as a Kobe fan? Hoops fan? Should the U.S. not win gold, how will you react?
BK



QUESTIONS of the day, BK. QUESTIONS of the day.
To me, it's rather important, as are the success of the USA Olympic team as a whole.
If we don't win the gold in basketball, I will freak out.
GO USA!!!!!
GO LAKERS!
Posted by: Jon K. | August 09, 2008 at 11:00 AM
By the way, if the German team with Chris "The Retard Mercenary" Kaman on board wins the gold, I will have a fricken epileptic fit and then stomp off to The Red Lion in Silverlake and burn that schnitzel factory to the ground!
GO LAKERS!
Posted by: Jon K. | August 09, 2008 at 11:03 AM
BK, this is a totally on-point question.
On a scale of 1-10, this is a ten for me. I've watched all the exhibition games. I'm watching as both a Kobe fan AND a hoops fan. I'm not sure that Team USA will win the Gold. Yes, I'll be disappointed if they don't, but I just want to see some great competition. I like the international style of play. For me, it's more fun to watch than the NBA style. I'll be up bright and early Sunday to watch Team USA v China. Kobe shines even more when he's surrounded by other superstars.
Posted by: Rick Friedman | August 09, 2008 at 11:06 AM
First?
Posted by: Romy R. | August 09, 2008 at 11:08 AM
10
I love American Basketball, and as such, I think it's still important for the USA to win the Gold medal, and I'll be disappointed if they don't.
I also think that, as I stated in the previous thread, the world changed the rules of the game to their advantage when FIBA was formed. With that, they effectively have raised a generation of players who've learned the game in an entirely different set of rules and with different floor dimensions. If Team USA loses, it's because of that, not because they aren't better basketball players.
The ratio of amazingly talented, and skilled, all-around basketball players still favors the USA by a large margin. I can't wait until the rest of the world finally gets to play a game that's at least close to what we're brought up playing in the States. The USA will thoroughly dominate the competition in the 2010 WC. Bet on it.
Posted by: "Pig" Miller | August 09, 2008 at 11:17 AM
The Question of the Day should be: Why aren't your reporting on Kobe's comments about bolting to Europe after this season?
mike t.
Posted by: Michael C. Teniente | August 09, 2008 at 11:18 AM
I'm watching as a Kobe fan...and a freakin' hoops fan. One of the Top 5 most memorable moments at the opening ceremony according to Yahoo! was Kobe Bryant. That's our Laker superstar right there.
I'm not convinced Team USA will win the Gold though. If they do, more power to them.
Posted by: Island_Gamer | August 09, 2008 at 11:26 AM
10. This is huge to me. I don't see how you can be a fan of the NBA and not enjoy this. It's a great team with a lot of the NBA's biggest stars and rising stars. Best part? No Celtics!
GO USA!
Posted by: Justin N. | August 09, 2008 at 11:28 AM
5.3, mildly interested, mildly interested, would go out and punch people in the throat.
Oops, somehow Jon K got into my post.
Posted by: exhelodrvr | August 09, 2008 at 11:32 AM
It's not a no brainer question. Got national pride?
Would you be willing to forgo your Celtic hatred if, say, KG was playing? OR would you secretly hope that Kobe wins the game with KG on the bench after 0 points and 5 fouls?
The stories of the last 2 games went under the radar.
These opening ceremonies were other worldly and the global aspect of the China setting is compelling stuff.
But when it gets down to international basketball on TV, it matters that Kobe is playing... and no Celtic is.
GO USA.
Posted by: Vman | August 09, 2008 at 11:33 AM
a 10 i suppose. . i'm watching kind of as a kobe fan, but i'm really watching as a video game fan.
i'm watching because i'm hoping that somehow, some way, this team will perform like a dream team would in NBA 2K8. the suspense for me isn't if the US is going to win, but its whether this team can live up to my video game expectations.
Posted by: joninjapan(incanada) | August 09, 2008 at 11:35 AM
kobee is talented but has already shown in the Finals that he is not the leader to take a team to ultimate victory. Team USA needs everything that D-Wade can give them, especially given the absence of AMARE.
Luckily, D'ANTONI is there to give Team USA its brightest hope. D'ANTONI knows the international game best and would be especially helpful if he were to suit up and replace jellybean jr.
Speaking of USA's chances, there is a distinct lack of size. Most teams are bigger than USA and this could prove fateful. It would have been smart to include real bangers like Glen Davis and Kendrick Perkins.
If USA loses, it'll be because AMARE is not playing, and if they win the gold, it'll be because D'ANTONI is the coach.
Posted by: BUTLER | August 09, 2008 at 11:52 AM
Yeah, I'm watching IF they get the scheduling right because I'm not getting up at friggin 5:00 AM to make sure the below is right. It's interesting to see Kobe, Lebron and Carmelo try to work together though we really haven't seen this team under any duress so far.
That one lineup they had with Lebron at Center was riDONKulous...
Chris Paul
Dwyane Wade
Kobe
Carmelo
Lebron
all playng at the same time? Ahahaha! That's CRAZY! All hall of fame potential guys mostly at or near the top of their games. Crazy...
Most of the teams they play have people of interest on them and the kicker? The last game they play Chris "The Beautiful People" as a German!
Hans Gruber: "schieß auf das fenster"
http://tinyurl.com/5um94w
Sun, Aug 10, 10:15 a.m (Eastern). USA - China (M) on NBC
Tues, Aug 12, 8:00 a.m (Eastern). USA - Angola (M) on USA channel
Thurs, Aug 14, 8:00 a.m (Eastern). USA - Greece (M) on USA channel
Sat, Aug 16, 10:15 a.m (Eastern). USA - Spain (M) on USA channel
Mon, Aug 18, 8:00 a.m (Eastern). USA - Germany (M) on USA channel
Posted by: King Mihminus III, 4th Earl of the Secret Society of the Burning Achilles | August 09, 2008 at 11:57 AM
Hating to disagree with you BK (well I don't hate it THAT much...)but I think the REAL lead header on the blog should be what Kobe said in Beijing yesterday.
For those who haven't read it, here are some highlights...
"Kobe Bryant won’t sign a contract extension with the Los Angeles Lakers until he has tested the global market, the U.S. Olympic basketball star told Yahoo! Sports on Saturday.
Asked whether he plans to solicit overseas offers before signing an extension, Bryant flatly said "Yes - I think free agency now is becoming a global thing …."
Bryant spent several years of his childhood in Italy and loves it. When Bryant was asked whether he held intrigue with owning and playing on a team together there, he said, “Absolutely.”
The whole article is here:
http://sports.yahoo.com/olympics/beijing/basketball/
news;_ylt=AtP3LCc1H.RMVti9JhlvJ3.8vLYF?slug=aw-
kobeeuropenewser080908&prov=yhoo&type=lgns
WHAT DO WE THINK? Is this a REAL possibility?
Posted by: Jay Jay | August 09, 2008 at 12:01 PM
I think this 'redeem team' stuff is serious business. Basketball is American, even though it was invented by a Canadian. This is our sport. On a scale of 1-10, I give this a 10 in terms of importance.
If we don't win gold, I'm very upset.
There are no excuses. We have the best talent in the world. For team USA, it's going to come down to playing fundamental team basketball. We need to show the world that this is our game and play it the way it's supposed to be played. The 1 on 1 stuff is not going to cut it, it's going to be about the team if we win.
Really, there's no excuse for team USA not to blow every team in the Olympics out of the water. But I'll be happy with a gold no matter how we get it.
The USA women's basketball team is the real 'dream team'. Those chicks are taking the world to school.
The opening ceremonies last night was an impressive spectacle. The scale and preciseness of coordination using all of those people was absolutely amazing. It was certainly something that I've never seen before in my life. That country is capable of things that most nations just cannot do. It's intimidating, but special at the same time.
Posted by: Rocky | August 09, 2008 at 12:31 PM
I'm at a 8. I'm gonna try and watch the games that I can. The fact that Kobe is in it makes it much more interesting. And I do hope that USA will win gold. If they don't, then its disappointing but it would be more of the administration's fault than the players. I think they should have another big, one less point guard, and more time playing together as a team.
Posted by: ajax | August 09, 2008 at 12:32 PM
10 - I want to see how Sun yue looks playing against americas best. If the US loses the gold I'd be disapointed but not enough to lose my mind over it.
BK
I was watching rowing too- Canada was kicking major ass - LOL
ALSO BIG SHOT OUT TO BERNIE MAC-1958-2008-R.I.P
"See you don't understand, I ain't afraid of you mother*#*&#*s!!"
Posted by: richtown | August 09, 2008 at 12:34 PM
Now that we've swept the medals in fencing, what can be left but disappointment?
But how about that opening ceremony? We knew they'd have the best fireworks, but 2008 angry smiling drummers? Holy crap!
I hope we never have to fight those guys.
Sonnybelfast
Posted by: Sonnybelfast | August 09, 2008 at 12:35 PM
Go Lakers!
Posted by: Laker Fan 24 | August 09, 2008 at 12:40 PM
I'm not especially patriotic. But I feel a deep sense of pride when it comes to Team USA. You're right, basketball is an international game now, and the rest of the world is catching up. That's why these gams are so important. It's important to me that the United States show that we play the game of basketball better than anyone else.
In years past, we had excuses. There are no excuses this time. Aside from KG and Duncan, Team USA is comprised of the best our country has to offer.
On a scale of 1-10, how much do I care? I'd have to answer with a 10. I'm watching as a fan of basketball and as an American.
Cheers.
Posted by: Brandon Hoffman | August 09, 2008 at 12:44 PM
Mike T, Jay Jay-
Obviously it's something we can all kick around, but honestly I don't see it as a credible threat at this point, nor do I think it's a big deal that Kobe says he'll entertain any offer he can get. That's what FAs do. I don't think he's going anywhere.
BK
PS- Solid adjustment, Sonny.
Posted by: Brian Kamenetzky | August 09, 2008 at 12:57 PM
I would say 6 for how much I care about the US hoops team winning. Almost all of the interest is due to the fact that Kobe is playing. In general I care more about watching good basketball throughout the Olympics. I wouldn't mind if Spain wins because of Pau, or if China does well in part to a good performance from Suin Yue. I still would prefer the US team to win so I could safely say I'm watching the best basketball on earth when I tune into the NBA.
Posted by: laker hopeful | August 09, 2008 at 12:58 PM
exhelodrvr,
Sorry about getting into your post. I got disorientated while wandering over to The Red Lion in a fit of rage.
You should know better than to leave your doors unlocked when Chris Kaman is playing for the German Olympic Team.
GO USA!
GO LAKERS!
Posted by: Jon K. | August 09, 2008 at 01:04 PM
I read that Lebron would accept 50 million per year, and Greece's Olympiacos was considering it.
If this is the case, the NBA must increase the ceiling on the salary cap. There's no way the NBA can lose LeBron and still say it produces the best basketball in the world. There's no way.
If that happened, it would be a sad day to be an American.
Posted by: Rocky | August 09, 2008 at 01:25 PM
BK,
I think you're wrong on this one. I think this Euro thing is very real. Nobody is going to walk away from that type of money. As much as they guys love their egos I think they love their families more. If a guy gets 40 million a year compared to 20 million in the NBA...why not?
The 82 game schedule is a deal breaker for the NBA when competeing with Euro ball.
A guy can go spend 2 Euro season and rake in between 80-100 million and then come back to the NBA...again, why not?
These are thinking global! Kobe Bryant is adored in Europe and Asia. Kobe Bryant should be a mainstream icon here in the state but he's not. Why not? Media! Why wouldn't Kobe take the money and run? The man is familiar with Italy and speaks Italian...why not?
I really don't think that Kobe Bryant has really forgiven the Lakers' for the issue he had with the team last summer. He's basically kept his mouth shut and has said all the right things.
If the Lakers don't win it all this coming season or don't get out of the Western conference...watch him walk!
Childless got 20 million for 3 season of Euro ball? How many games a season? He can come back with almost no wear and tear on his body...why not?
The wear and tear on the body during a 82 game NBA season is the deal breaker for the kind of money Europe is throwing around...again, one more time: Why not?
mike t.
Posted by: Michael C. Teniente | August 09, 2008 at 01:33 PM
BK
"The Olympic basketball tourney is about to start (word is that Kobe guy is playing). I'll admit, in terms of attention paid and depth of emotional investment, I've been pretty lax regarding both the hoops contest and the Games in general"
BK
This is not a surprise at all that this is your attitude.....considering you are the product of a very insular country not to mention.....national media. We are very arrogant here in this country and just do not appreciate anything unless we can control it. I watched that little chinese guy that walked alongside Yao Ming last night respond to the U.S. interviewer's question last night.......IN ENGLISH!
How many Americans speak more than English? How many languages do you speak BK? I watched members of the Russian team last night mob Kobe and right before the broadcast cut away you could see Kobe ask the Russian people......How do you say thank you in Russian? ..........and just think......Phil Jackson called Kobe arrogant and Narcissistic. I wonder how many languages Phil speaks?
This world is becoming smaller everyday and to not think globally will just limit your possibilities in this world. Sports for the most part is a microchosm of life.............it opens doors to different cultures, people, and experiences from which we can evolve and continue to grow.
I was very moved to watch the parade of countries and the very creative show put on by the Chinese people. Personally I disagree with the Chinese Governments role in the situation in Darfur.........but I also understand that America's hands are too bloody to be a moral judge.
Through sports....particularly basketball the world is becoming acquainted with one another......the world is talking to one another.......and through sports maybe the world will begin to understand one another and not drop bombs on one another.
If this doesn't rank a 10 on the American's viewer scale...........I wonder what will?
P.S. It is estimated that more than 3 Billion people will watch the game tomorrow between the USA and China........THAT'S NOT A KOBE EVENT OR A HOOPS EVENT........THAT'S A WORLD EVENT!!
Posted by: pfunk36 | August 09, 2008 at 01:37 PM
How old is Kobe Bryant? 30 this year?
Why not take 2 years off of an 82 game schedule and make 80-100 at the same time? Come back healthy to play NBA ball again when he's 32 years old to make another 80 million for 5 more years. That's almost 200 million in 7 years. Can the NBA offer that? Screw a Championship...this is about taking care of your family.
I firmly believe when Kobe said: If someone turned down 40 million a season...he would beat them up. I would, too.
mike t.
Posted by: Michael C. Teniente | August 09, 2008 at 01:38 PM
"...honestly I don't see it as a credible threat at this point,..."
So you skip it for this creampuff subject matter. How will people feel if we don't bring home the gold?
Easy answer? The same way we felt when we didn't bring home the gold in 2004.
Interesting!
mike t.
Posted by: Michael C. Teniente | August 09, 2008 at 01:59 PM
I rate my interest as somewhere between 0 and 1. I really enjoyed the USA Basketball tryouts in Las Vegas -- in particular what struck me was how Kobe Bryant towered above all comers, a superstar amongst superstars, some of the final sequences being a smothering steal by Kobe, a ridiculous, undefendable fall away three-point jumper by Kobe -- but now that the Olympics arrive in China, I find myself strangely revolted by the entire event. Recently, I even find myself to have developed a curious ethical problem with the company for which I work: many of its factories are now located in China.
I don't really mean to bring politics into the discussion, and agree that this isn't the appropriate forum for them, but asking about the Olympics is inherently a political question for some, requiring a political answer. Also, I suppose I am surprised at just how strong a response I find myself having, and that it grows in intensity every day. An event which supposedly should be about nations of the world coming together and competing in a spirit of international community should never, ever be held in a repressive, totalitarian state as brutal as the PRC. Anyone who thinks these games being held there could possibly have some sort of positive effect are fooling themselves; this country hasn't changed since Tiananmen and the more money it has, the less likely the current government is to loosen its grip on its own countrymen and women. Even a little bit of prosperity, which surely no one could begrudge anyone, might have the opposite effect of that for which one might hope, for nothing could create stability in a totalitarian state than a middle class fearing the loss of newfound prosperity.
So I don't care if US Basketball wins or loses; the whole event is a travesty that shouldn't ever have happened, and firmly reveals the IOC as nothing but a group with hands open for the biggest payoffs available. Not that this is surprising, the Olympics have mostly always been about how best to mate international corporate greed with the patriotism of proles.
I'm sure it might strike most as a very cynical take on the entire goings-on, and -- considering how replete U.S. professional sports are with that same screeing dissonance between the banal greed of corporatism, and the reverence of real human glory, real exaltation, real celebration of triumph -- one that is hypocritical as well. But there is only so much of that I am willing to tolerate in this world; the Olympics being held in Beijing is beyond that tolerance. It's such a shame.
Posted by: Schlieren | August 09, 2008 at 02:06 PM
A better question would be...do I care more because Kobe's in there lol.
The answer to that is unequivocally yes, 12!
But mostly, 8.5. I care more about winning the medal race against China.
Posted by: Faith | August 09, 2008 at 02:18 PM
Bk - I'm at a 5 on the Olympic scale for Men's Basketball. Reason being is that I'm pretty much over all the hype, and the marketing that major national media outlets (read: ESPN) have given this. I don't really care about all the back stories, and I'm not too sure if everyone is on the same page.
I'd much rather watch another olympics after this one. If Team USA has something to prove, I'll wait to see the end product - it's time for them to speak with their actions, and not sound bites that go well for future Nike/NBA commercials.
Besides, there are other sports and sporting events that are just as compelling. Personally, I'd like to see how the Men's Baseball, Women's Softball, and the Men's and Women's futbol teams do. Maybe throw some table tennis as well.
Posted by: Caliphilosopher | August 09, 2008 at 02:23 PM
can someone explain exactly how the brackets/work in trying to win the gold medal, how many games can the us team lose before they get the final game?
thanks
Posted by: laker32 | August 09, 2008 at 02:31 PM
10!!!!!!!!!!!
Watching EVERY game as live on TV as possible.
Watching as a Kobe fan.
Watching as a USA fan.
Watching as a hoops fan. (Very interesting to watch euro-play)
Huge disappointment if USA doesn't win, but I would only see it strengthening competition in the long-term.
Posted by: theDude | August 09, 2008 at 03:04 PM
Mike-
Kobe's opt out is a year away, whereas the Olympics are happening right now. So even if I'm wrong and Kobe really is a threat to go overseas to play (again, I don't see it happening) we have a year to go over the story. That's why I asked the question I did. That said, nobody is going to stop you or anyone else from debating it.
Your reasons certainly make sense, but I don't think he'd actually make the move. Even he said it would be "almost impossible" to leave the Lakers. I'm sure this is a topic we'll kick around for a while.
BK
Posted by: Brian Kamenetzky | August 09, 2008 at 03:07 PM
Bikini'd women, workin' it out in the sand. I just remembered what I love so much about the Olympics.
This particular match, Cuba vs. Germany (in espanol) is a close shave.
Sonybelfast
Posted by: Sonnybelfast | August 09, 2008 at 03:26 PM
pfunk-
Of all the completely self-absorbed, off-the-charts arrogant and presumptive things you've posted on this blog- Lord knows there are many- this likely takes the cake. You automatically equate my lack of emotional attachment to the US winning the gold in Beijing to a narrow world view? Or assume that I haven't gotten full bore into the Games generally because I'm unwilling to look beyond American borders?
Part of the reason I don't get wrapped up in the US team's performance in basketball is precisely because I understand that the assumption of American dominance in the sport is misplaced, that the world has caught up, and needs to be respected for its collective basketball talent. This, by the way, is a good thing
But beyond that, why would you assume that I'm somehow narrow minded, only interested in things I can control, and draw the conclusion that I simply don't care or concern myself with the rest of the world, simply based on the short intro to a question? You don't know nearly enough about me, my background, my family, my cultural history, my interests, my travel habits, my politics, my reading habits, and so on to make that leap.
Nor should you assume that somehow I don't comprehend or appreciate the global value of sport from a cultural nad socio-political standpoint simply because I don't really care if the US wins a gold medal in basketball.
I generally find it ironic that you're willing to lambaste people you don't know and make broad (and negative) assumptions about them based on virtually no (or at the very least, incomplete) information, connecting dots that have no business being connected, all the while espousing yourself to be a bastion of enlightenment and open-mindedness.
If you're curious about my world view, how I see things, how I view America on a global stage, my view of China, our foreign policy, culture, language, or whatever, you're more than welcome to ask. We might even be able to have a reasonable conversation about these things. Instead, you rush to your high horse in an effort to try to make me look small or narrow.
I don't really get it.
BK
Posted by: Brian Kamenetzky | August 09, 2008 at 03:26 PM
A tragedy in Beijing. My sincere condolences to the victims. Had only progressive Chinese enacted stricter hand-knife laws.
Sonnybelfast
Posted by: Sonnybelfast | August 09, 2008 at 03:30 PM
BK the answer is a 10. What else are we going to watch as basketball fans? I hate this time of year normally. No basketball, no football, what are we supposed to watch "I want to work for Diddy." As a video game fan, this is exactly what this is going to be. Kobe, Lebron, Wade, Melo, and Chris Paul on the same team, who wouldn't watch? And Kobe, MVP, what a year to be in the olympics. Its all good for laker fans, just as long as he doesn't ... well im not even going to say it.
Jon K, the real QOTD is whether or not Kobe goes overseas. I listened to 570 KLAC today around 2 and all callers talked about was KOBE THE TRAITOR. I couldn't believe it. The guy said he would beat up somebody for not taking a 50 million a year offer for an overseas deal. So what! It was a joke, a negotiating ploy. You know what he's really saying. He's saying he's not taking less money like Arenas did. And for me that's ok, cuz he aint gilbert. Should Jordan take less. Not that he's Jordan, but we all agree he's the closest thing to it. Kobe deserves his money and the lakers are going to pay it and thats that.
He will not leave, I repeat he will not leave the Lakers and I'm going to tell you why. First of all Kobe wants to be the best player of all time. That means he has to surpass Jordan. Technically that means he has to get 4 more rings and thats not happening before his contract is up. A championship in Russia or Italy means squat and he knows it. And I think we can agree that Childress going to Euro league means get your money when no one else will give it to you. Kobe going means selfish, non-loyal, fake-nationalist,ex-rapist, pscho crybaby leaves states for blood money. This man is loved and HATED by more people than anybody. His haters would grow times 10 and I don't think he could repair his image if he left and tried to come back.
But this is the QOTD, and maybe no one wants to really address it because you all know it will never happen. Its not realistic. Its possible and financially logical, but its not realistic. Kobe is on pace to be the best Laker ever, and I'm a Magic diehard so that hurts just saying it. But he is, and he could very well catch Jordan as well. That can only happen in the states, and the Lakers are the team that can offer him the most money in the states. Things couldnt be better this season. Bynum back, Odom for 1 more year, Sasha showin signs of a true baller. Its all good and as Laker fans we just have to remember that DRAMA is our middle name. Its always going to be a soap. Especially with Kobe because he's a (cough) rock star in hollywood. And Mitch is on a roll on the craps table right now. Do you realize that Bynum could be an allstar next year. That all Mitch and the goofy Buss guy throwin the dice. Not Jerry West, not Kobe, and not Magic. Its the new core trustin Kareem and his staff to make informed decisions. Its all good yall.
Posted by: johnnyboy | August 09, 2008 at 03:40 PM
Mr. Teniente,
"The wear and tear on the body during a 82 game season is the deal breaker"
I agree. To see several American "stars" in foreign uniforms before all is said and done, and sooner than later, will come as no surprise.
"Kobe Bryant should be a mainstream icon here in the state(s) but he's not. Why not?"
That's a trick rhetorical question, right?
Sonnybelfast
Posted by: Sonnybelfast | August 09, 2008 at 03:41 PM
$50 million>$20 Million
'Nuff said.
Raise that salary cap David Stern!
Posted by: Rocky | August 09, 2008 at 03:49 PM
I can't help but notice the luxury of Chinese cheerleaders in skimpy costumes. They are cheering for the world. I have to admit, they're really cheering me up!
Sonnybelfast
Posted by: Sonnybelfast | August 09, 2008 at 03:50 PM
pfunk36 and BK,
You guys are getting way too personal on this. I think you are both over-reacting a bit.
GO LAKERS!
Posted by: Jon K. | August 09, 2008 at 03:56 PM
Regarding Kobe going to Europe...
Sasha Vujacic took less money to stay with the Lakers instead of going to Europe.
No way in heck is Kobe Bryant going to Europe.
Who the heck thinks he's going to get more sponsorship playing for some team in Italy than playing for THE LAKERS?
You guys are eating insan-o muffins and washting it down with crazy juice.
GO LAKERS!
Posted by: Jon K. | August 09, 2008 at 03:58 PM
I'm watching as a Kobe fan and supporting Team USA.
I want to see Team USA win, but I won't be surprised if they lost. Just as how I was guarded with my optimism when the Lakers played the Celtics (I still don't know how we were the favorites when we should have been the underdog considered we were missing Drew - people seemed to forget that the Celtics had the best record of all teams prior to the playoffs - I knew the Lakers would beat everyone in the WC, just not the Celtics)
I see lots of teams that cause problems for TEAM USA. Like Spain, who I can easily see winning the gold, Argentina, Australia ... all heavy contenders for the gold.
So I'm watching these games with guarded optimism. It's obvious Team USA is talented, but they still have some hiccups in their offense and defense.
Posted by: Peanut Butter Spread | August 09, 2008 at 04:04 PM
Let me give you an international view...Please.....
In 1992 when the dream team was formed it caused a massive stir all around the world,including Australia..I can remember going to school and all everyone was talking about was the dream team...When the dream team arrived in Barcelona they got royal treatment,not rock star but royal treatment..After games players from the opposite teams almost got in line to take photos and get jerseys signed..On the day the dream team visited the Olympic village it was like the beatles had reformed and played one last concert...At the 92 games they stayed in a 5 star hotel while the rest of the athletes stayed in the village....
There will never be another dream team and the rest of the world knows it...When the dream team played,our nightly news show was dominated by what that team was doing .Speaking to friends family and other basketball fans,they all have the same opinion ...They all think that this team is a bunch of ego freaks who are arrogant ..It may not be that way but thats the perception that people have over here...
I dont..Im just a basketball fan full stop
Posted by: Thirty2 | August 09, 2008 at 04:11 PM
Obviously it's something we can all kick around, but honestly I don't see it as a credible threat at this point
Actually, if the league isn't taking the potential encroachment of FIBAnation seriously -- as some press reports conveying NBA denial suggest -- I'm sure Nike, Reebok, Adidas, ABC, ESPN, TNT et al. are.
FIBA-NBA have been able to maintain a delicate dance of "safe" partnerships precisely because the NBA still perceives (and treats) FIBA as a harmless stepchild suckling at the teat of NBA nourishment rather than the monster in a box it actually is -- an inherent danger of David Stern's rosy-hued megalomyopic delusion of unfettered, unchallenged NBA globalization (domination).
As you say, that domination is still true to a point. But only to the point where FIBA poaches its first superstar from the NBA's first galaxy.
Otherwise, NBA merchandisers would line up to crap unholy cows on Stern's doorstep if -- or rather WHEN -- they find ex-NBA now-FIBA superstars suddenly NOT wearing the apparel NBA merchandisers paid gazillions for viz. endorsement contracts because FIBA superstars would conceivably be "free" to upwardly rework existing deals or demand new deals to accommodate new (FIBA) teams, new (FIBA) uniforms, a new (FIBA) league and new non-NBA (various Euro) broadcast outlets.
Ditto cowpies from NBA broadcst partners left holding the billion-dollar bag for a product -- exclusive rights to broadcast NBA games featuring once-exclusive NBA superstars -- facing devaluation for every superstar who heads overseas.
Kobe, LeBron and Wade might be joking about the numbers -- but you can *bet* FIBA teams and Euro corporatists are serioiusly exploring ways to make those numbers work, sooner rather than later.
Unlike Commissioner Nero Not Neo Stern.
Posted by: latopia | August 09, 2008 at 04:15 PM
BK,
pfunk is just another internet negative Nellie. The internet sometimes brings out the worst in people.
Maybe he wasn't hugged enough as a child.
Broadly presumptuous while pretending to be the sole protector of sophisticated thought? You gotta love it.
Posted by: Benjamin | August 09, 2008 at 04:16 PM
all this talking about kobe and lebron leaving for outside countries has to stop. they are not going anywhere ok.
ding how in prattville
Posted by: ding how in prattville | August 09, 2008 at 04:16 PM
How can any American not care about how we do in the sport of basketball on the world stage?
This is basketball, it's all American.
pfunk36 has a point. "We are very arrogant here in this country and just do not appreciate anything unless we can control it."
If you don't care about this, you don't care about America.
It's about that time to put the flag pins on people. This is war.
Posted by: Rocky | August 09, 2008 at 04:24 PM
FROM KOBE BRYANT:
“As players, the business of the game (is) evolving,” Bryant said before a Team USA practice at Beijing Normal University. “I think free agency now is becoming a global thing …. When players become free agents, the team they’re currently with – their competition is no longer the rest of the teams in the NBA. But it’s global. So, the market’s opened up. So we’ll just have to see how the league responds to it.”
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I like the way Kobe says: "...So we'll just have to see how the league responds to it."
Notice how he didn't refer to the Lakers? This is about the league salary cap and luxury tax. Man for the league to do away with the salary cap is just to say that ticket prices would go through the roof.
Just like Kobe is preaching America, right now, being more important than an NBA title, well more than your country is your family.
That money Kobe could make in Europe is all about his family. If the NBA is intent on keeping a luxuary tax...going against Euro money? The global market is a serious thing. Just think of it in terms of: God, Family, Country. And country can be dealt with every 2 years with the World Championships and Olympics.
Kobe's walking and so are a few other stars.
mike t.
Posted by: Michael C. Teniente | August 09, 2008 at 04:29 PM