To the Poster Let's Go C's,

This is the second time I posted in question for your true motives on the blog.

"If you whinners can't take the heat, please don't dish it out."

It's single n for whiners. Besides why are you complaining about whining by whining?
Sounds like you can't take the heat. Why even bring up the dishing out part if you can handle it.

"Yoos got a bunch of brown-nosers who do nothing but agree with one another."

Actually the blog group had a mixed opinion on Artest. And there you go again, drawing attention and misspelling, complaining about brown nosing when all you do is brown nose about the Celtics.

"All I'm doing is pointing out the obvious."

You don't state anything obvious. You type "What's with this banning business?" and "Funny article." And then you finally read the article and type "Upon further reading of the article, it's not quite so funny."

Obviously, not stating anything obvious.

I'll tell you, you are in the same pool of that troll. Why would you be so inclined to type the same put down and berate the very blog that you are forcing to belong in? Every time your current user name is used; understand that you are NOT respected. You feel like it is fun, but everybody is over it.

Fire32 learned his lesson (or the user for that period as Fire32) Why can't you? Regardless if you are a kid, retired, or working at home; it is no longer competitive and respectful. Bragging about the championship for a few days is acceptably Nouveau Riche, but your blog style lacks candor and is uncouth-fully dangerous for your mental health.

Charles

What? Oh, uh, what?

How about we trade Howard for Mark Madsen and John Celestand?

-Playing with scissors-

http://shanghaiist.com/2008/08/01/
yaos_comments_on_artest_and_chinas.php

Sonnybelfast

Jon K.

Me too. As much as I'd like to see people like LGC banned from this place, I cannot make that call. I also agree with guity on the point that with the freedom of speech we have to take the good with the bad. Let's just ignore the idiots, and eventually they'll go away.

Starve the Troll!

"Pig" Miller,

I respect your position. Still how long has this moron been vomiting out collective insults on this blog? I mean, AK says he'll block people for personal attacks, but this guy is personally attacking the blog. He's personally attacking this community.

I'm for freedom of speech and generally I'm pretty libertarian about things, but there are natural limits too.

Eventually a parasite has to be put in a cage or have his teeth knocked out in a good old dose of instant karma.

Whatever.

Urgh. The last thing I want to have to deal with over the next 70 days of the Long Bataan Death March of the offseason is everyday avoiding this moron's posts and accidentally getting sucked into posts by bloggers I like to read who are directly responding to the idiot.

Anyway, things usually have a way of working themselves out. Laker Nation is strong and the Kamenetsky Brothers have their reasons for letting the poster child for Down's Syndrome repeatedly post, but I'd sure rather things work this way out quickly rather than slowly.

Fastest track? Ban the inbred moron.

GO LAKERS!

"Freedom of speech" refers to government censorship, not private organizations like this blog, so that is not an issue. The K brothers filtering posts would NOT be an impingement on freedom of speech.

You guys are doing all right, I think, AK.

As for the Howard thing, it's amazing ot me just how many idiots there are in the world. Human intelligence is very overrated.

AK

To your post on the previous thread. I agree that he isn't specifically attacking one person, but the community as a whole. I read the article today and realized the only way to truly make people like LGC go away is to do as you say and ignore them, but I also think that as ex says, you have the right to get rid of people who are obviously attempting to antagonize the blog purposefully. He is, and perhaps should so be. In the end, you and Brian make that call, and I respect that. I'll simply do as you say and not acknowledge their existence in the hopes they leave on they're own.

Thanks for running a solid show.

Do you guys write your own headlines?

Of course freedom of speech isn't government mandated in this case -- it's just a great concept to live by, and will make the blog a better place in the long run. In the end, AK, I hope you have a better reason for doing what you are doing, because "We just don't think a ban for something like this is necessary" doesn't really explain a heck of a lot.

AK,

>>>>>Bottom line, there's a simpler and obvious way around this issue.
>>>>>Just go about your business as if he's not there and enjoy the smart posts.
>>>>>Or, if you must address guys like him, do it with a grain of salt.
>>>>>But either way, just stop taking it so seriously,
>>>>>because this isn't even close to worth it.

You know, I had great post all prepared and then had so many problems on the blog (using Firefox) that I finally decided to reboot my laptop, found out that Word had frozen as well as the Blog, and lost my usual long post. I’d like to say my post was in the same vein as yours, but that hasn’t been my usual tone lately as I’m going through one of those senior cranky phases when I tend to flip off anybody who looks even slightly deserving of it in my opinion.

At any rate, you showed your true colors and why the forum that you and BK have crafted has been able to attract so many loyal and extraordinary Laker fans as fellow bloggers. Your entire post on the ban subject was intelligent, articulated extremely well, and smartly peppered with enough smack of your own toward LGC to sate the blood thirst in most of us at least for now.

Splendid job of thinking and executing. Thanks for lightening and brightening my day.

Tom

A to tha mutha f'n K homeboy
A to tha mutha f'n K
Mutha f'n K

I don't mean to get too 'ghetto' up in here, but that's Cypress Hill in reference to AK. Laying down the law, reasonably. I agree with the decision 100%.

Go Lakers!

Benjamin,

>>>>>The guy is his own worst enemy and he does get what he deserves.
>>>>>But, equating him to guys like Steve Francis and Stephon Marbury
>>>>>is probably going too far. He's problematic, but he's not on their level.
>>>>>He's not a cancer.

Excellent post. You’re right that Artest is not a cancer. He is more like a potential nervous breakdown where the patient escapes reality or is it that reality escapes the patient. LOL. Ron’s problems are also primarily off the court and usually more bizarre than cancerous. Ron obviously has a loose screw in there somewhere. I wouldn’t have minded his becoming a Laker but as you noted, I tend to look for anything even slight that gives me a reason to dump on players who might have spurned the Lakers. Such as KG and Ron Ron. Of course, you realize that if we somehow did trade for him, I admit I would have no problem getting behind him.

While I’ve been manic in defending the existing roster on the blog, especially Drew, Pau, and Lamar, I have been pretty relaxed when it came to possible moves by the Lakers. I basically think it would be incredibly stupid not to wait and see what we really have with this team all healthy before making a move such as trading Lamar. Obviously, the Lakers front office agrees. Tempted though they may have been, once again the Lakers have resisted several opportunities to trade Lamar Odom. My hunch is that we may see this as another great move by Mitch, much as his refusal to trade Andrew Bynum has to be viewed in retrospect.

Collateral damage! That’s what the damage to Mitch’s short-lived fame and fortune as an NBA general manager suffered as a result of the Celtics beating the Lakers in the Finals. First. the proverbial they steal the NBA Exec of the Year award from him and give it to Danny Ainge, then they cut the guy’s stint in the bright lights short and blame him for too many soft Euros and white guys. Fortunately, Mitch has always played for the long term and had the patience and intelligence to create a plan, modify it when needed, but basically stick to it. Mitch knows that the plan you elect is often not as critical as how well you execute and implement it.

Do you not see the ironic similarities to the Lakers refusal to trade Lamar Odom for Ron Artest this year to their refusal to trade Andrew Bynum last year? In both cases, the Lakers front office thought they were better off sticking with the player they had, which they valued more than other teams. They were right with Bynum. They may be right about Odom. The smart move is to find out before making a big mistake and trading him. The truth is that every player on the team, including Kobe, is going to benefit hugely by the return and dominant post play of Andrew Bynum. Take what you had last year and then boost it 50% to get an idea of this year. That is monster the domino effect that the Beast will have on the Lakers roster next year.

Tom

JOSH HOWARD IS AN IDIOT…

That’s what the blog thinks so I was pretty sure there wouldn’t be many trade proposals. LOL. Although I understand why history would make betting on the blog generating some crazy trade proposals for Howard a reasonable expectation. The thing is that most of us would have a hard time imaging a guy with Howard’s motivational issues somehow working out on a Kobe Bryant driven team. As talented as the guy is, he truly has some mental challenges to work out and the Lakers are not one of the teams that would be interested in the guy.

I do, however, feel the need to make a comment about how foolish, costly, and short-sighted treating marijuana as an illegal drug much the same as cocaine and heroin and not the same as alcohol, which really would address the heart of the issue without the far right’s Killer Weed mentality. And this is not in any way to condone the irresponsible and stupidity of Howard in risking his career smoking weed offseason in violation of his contract and then dumbly talking about it in an interview DURING the freaking playoffs. And now the reckless driving, which is just an criminal justice euphemism for reducing a drunk driving charge.

But I know many elderly patients like myself who depend on marijuana for its medicinal benefits as much as its recreational benefits. Before my father went blind from glaucoma, the only way he could even see clearly was to smoke a joint. And I’ve had friends dying from cancer whose only effective defense against ungodly pain was the THC extracted from pot. Two things that I find completely out of place and time and common sense are our inane war on marijuana and refusal to advise kids about safe sex and contraception. Two big reasons why a long-time, hard-core fiscal conservative and once hawk changed parties many moons ago.

Tom

PS, AK, will you be my besty friend?

I'll have you know one reason I'm back is I saw all of the smack taling about Paul Pierce and how "Pierce is not at Kobe's level".

Now intelligent Faker fans would admit that was a stupid thing to say.

Baksetball is not about who's better as a single unit. It's about a unit of 5 guys.

Tean Celtic beat down Mr. "I can get off at anytime" because the mentality of Starlet is "I" can get off at anytime.

The mentality of you whinny little girls (and guys) is singular. Linear. One sided.

I'll say again: Paul Pierce and Mr. Starlet were in the same place last summer.

Your boi decided to badmouth everyone including the general manager (cupchack) and teammates (Brynum).

My boy keeped his mouth shut and expressed quietly a desire to win now.

KG was on the market and was turned off by your boi acting the foo on radio ant TV.

Ray Allen will not play with Kobe becase Ray Allen knows how selfish Mr. Selfish is.

Bam Boom Bang, the "Big Three" was born. The Big Three all checked their egos at the door and made a commitment to play together and lift the spirits of teammates.

Boom Bam Bang, Celtics win in dramatic fasion. Historic fashion. Kobe and the Fakers were exposes as fakers.

Now, does is constitute as "intelligent" writing?

OMG, I'm souding like that one guy who rambles on and on and on and on and on.

hahhahahhahahah

"Celtics Win!" --Red smiling in heaven with a stoggie

ajajajjajajajjaja

At the risk of getting in between this...

Sometimes you just can't help it. It's that annoying. It's like someone playing that game where they repeat what you say. You just can't help but say "STFU."

At a certain point, enough is enough.

A friendly advice to all Laker bloggers here, go back to talking about basketball and the Lakers, lets just leave Satan & Red where they are. . . . . . in hell, and Bloggers like LGC where they belong in a Mental Ward. My last comment for the day.
Thanks and Go Lakers

He said it himself. They were the better team... and no one disputes that... KG could have won the Championships with RAY alone... How many all stars play along side another all stars in the league? not to mention 3 perenial all stars... if they had switch places.. would he have won the Western Conference.. I doubt it.. he didn't even get his team near the playoffs 3 years before this year...

Why would he suddenly say that he is the best player in the world?

Lebron is better than him... Carmelo is better than him.. in team achievements... What did he won until he had KG and RAy, and Posey? Zero...

I really feel for the guy.. I really do... He needs some love...

LakerTom,

"Do you not see the ironic similarities to the Lakers refusal to trade Lamar Odom for Ron Artest this year to their refusal to trade Andrew Bynum last year?"

I hope to see that. I want a breakout year from Lamar this year, just like I have every other year from him.

People might look at that response and say "ouch!" It hurts me too people.

We pretty much agree on Artest.

AK,

You have spoken, so we're stuck with LGC. Okay. Possible quota so he (or the team) isn't 20 pct of all posts on a thread? That would make it a lot more tolerable. You delete repeat posts, how about deeply redundant posts?

Certainly seems after all this big 3/stats dont matter/Ray can take the last shot talk that Peirce has decided to give himself a larger chunk of the credit now its over.Hopefully this irritates his teamates.

He's never been in the argument as far as the very best players are concerned.He got lucky - right place, right time,right role on the right team and managed to play well enough at the right time to get the MVP (like Chauncy Billups)

Pierce's body of work does not suggest he's had a great attitude nor has he consistently performed at an elite level.These comments are just off-putting especially considering the situation and his history.It's easy to be a good guy when your team is winning but the truth is Pierce has let bad celtics teams be bad for years and not done much about it particularly.Garnett changed the culture so its said? well whose culture was it before that?

Pierce is not even the 20th best player in the league let alone the best.You could make an argument he was somewhere in the top 15-20. But that hes not a top ten player is simply FACT.Theres obviously too many people telling him how great he is.

It will be forgotten that he didnt actually play THAT WELL in the finals compared to most other finals MVP's.He wasn't carrying the kind of load that the Kobe's,Wades,Jordan's,Duncans,Nowitzki's and other recent finalists have.It was a different kind of team and a different kind of victory....and chucking that gatorade cooler over Rivers was just annoying....nearly as annoying as the look on his face when he came out of the locker room after his 'injury' in game 1 bouncing around self importantly.So he hit a couple of threes in the third quater of game 1? big deal.

Paul Pierce is an egotistical jerk.Let it be said here now and forevermore

The blog need to go forward, it has a big umbrella for all kinds of posters. This is Los Angeles, the bastion of Jeffersonian democracy. Do we want to imitate a progressive country? For them to hold a successful Olympics, dissenters were jailed, their families have been warned, factories and cars running on the streets have been minimized, the citizenry are respecting the Yantze river again as a perception of pollution-free Green China for just two freakin' weeks. Is this what we want to achieve in this blog?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25983709

Hey Jon K,

Let's just let it go. We can't help that there are posters who believe they are omniscient and above the rest of the people here. We also can't help that people come and make the rest of us collectively stupider by their presence, so let's have conversation without worrying too much about them. Like children, they will get bored if you don't mind them.

AK/BK: so much for trying to change the subject with the Josh Howard thread....

When can we start talking about MVP and the Olympic team and how Doberman is killing it on defense right now?

GO LAKERS!!

Looks like the Clippers have signed Brian Skinner, so there goes that idea.

They've also let go Nick Fazekas. The guy's 6' 11" and I really liked what I saw of him last year. I doubt the Lakers will pick him up, but the should have a look at him.

Hey, no one responded to my suggestion about the Lakers looking at Adonal Foyle. Are there any thoughts out there about the idea?

GO LAKERS!