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August 25, 2008 |  9:26 pm

These are lean economic times, but should you have a little cash squirreled away in your sports paraphernalia budget -- and really, after groceries and medical emergencies, most of us have that at the top of the list -- I give you this signed Kobe Bryant Team USA jersey, all framed up and ready for display.

For a cool $995 (plus S&H), you can even circumvent the bidding!

BK


Comments (169)

Laker Tom,

Radman will fill in the role that Brian Cook was in 2005-2006 season and 2006-2007 season: a big man who can hit a 3 pointer. That was best thing that Cook offered us. Radman can not only do that better but also drive into key and get higher FG% shot, something which Cook was notoriously bad at doing.

During the waning moments of Game 2 in the Finals, PJ put a lineup of Fisher-Vujacc-Bryant-Radmanovich-Gasol. Like Jeff Van Gundy said, by putting Radman at power forward, the floor was spread out with 3 point shooters (Fisher, Vujacic, Radmanovich, and Bryant) that any pick and roll that Kobe and Pau did the Celtics would have to either let Kobe go with very few help defense or try to rotate over and risk getting one of the Lakers' better perimeter shooters wide open chance at a 3. That lineup helped lower down the deficit.

Mihm I never liked as a starter but I would say he is good as a backup. He does block some shots and having another 7 footer as a backup center is still good to at least deter easy shots to the basket for the benches of the other teams. Pau can also do the job as well. Powell I would say is more reliable in many ways than Ronny was playing center or power forward. I felt Ronny during the playoffs wasn't really that physical like he was in the regular season, even though he did get tonsilitis during the Denver series. In any case, training camp and especially the pre-season we will have a great chance to see how the backups play.

And for Jon K.'s ideas for trade, I would certainly would trade Odom for Tayshaun Prince and another Power Forward, if money wasn't a factor.

kobebryantblitz,

I wouldn't compare Drew to David Robinson. I love Drew but Robinson had the ability to be the best center the league has ever seen. He had awesome post moves, could hit midrange jumpers and was as physically talented as anyone. Drew is going to be very good but if he lives up to his potential he's going to have (and already does) a completely different skill-set.

Hey Everybody..Lakertom wasup Also thanx Taliq for finding that link for me :)

I'm back now from work. Dude I was at work thinking we only got 1 month before the new NBA2k9 comes out for the xbox360 :). I always play with the Lakers on xbox live :).

This lineup has already been posted.

PG: Fisher/Farmar/Yue
SG: Bryant/Vujacic/Karl
SF: Odom/Ariza/Walton
PF: Gasol/Radmanovic/Powell
C: Bynum/Mihm/Open (Gasol)

I don't like it. I love it!

So... the question is who is the third team center?

1. Alonzo Mourning
2. DJ Mbenga
3. Some D-League Phenom

GO LAKERS!

thekobebryantblitz,

you wrote: In any case, the same thing can be said of Trevor, if his outside shot isn't there (it takes time to develop, it took Clyde the Glide Drexler a while to even break 30% of his 3 pointers", then I can say the "knee" of Trevor's is even worst than Lamar's. And what makes you think that Lamar *always* has to shoot a 3 pointer? Lamar averaged 14.8 ppg when he played Small Forward compared to 14.2ppg this year as Power Forward. He also rebounded 9.2 ppg, compared to 10.1rpg as a power forward (small difference). Like I said, Lamar doesn't always have to shoot jumpers, in fact with more reliable inside guys of Bynum and Pau he can always either shoot it close or better yet pass (he is a way better passer than Trevor or Sasha) it to either Pau and Bynum and they themeslves can score.

So that means Lamar's 37.2% 3 point shooting percentage is a lie (when he played Small Forward)? (Power Forward he had to bang it inside more and he didn't get a rhythm if he tried a 3 pointer). Ok so that means we can conclude Kobe's 36.1% 3 point shooting is a lie too.

my response:

1st and foremost, all my roster suggestions/desires are
predicated upon Sasha & Trevor working on their game
this summer and getting better. It is my belief, based upon
biology, that Lamar can *NOT* increase his quickness.

re: Lamar's shooting percentage. I actually believe that
Lamar *COULD* become a better shooter. I'm not
convinced about the statistics because the west is
harder now than it was 3 years ago when we had
numbers for him at SF. I also believe that our team
is better and some of his numbers are time adjusted.
i.e. there was no one else to play and so he played more
and made more. Fundamentally, he does not inspire
me with his shooting.

re: Kobe's shooting/statistics. That is a fascinating point.
I'm glad you raised it. Let's get down to brass tacks.
Did you watch the Olympics? Kobe, with a damaged
pinky was nothing like he was 2 years ago. Until it
mattered. And then, he was "MONEY!" Has Lamar
ever had a single game like that? If Lamar had generated
the same level of clutchness as Kobe I'd say start him
wherever you want to.

re: Lamar vs. the other possible SF's. This is my take:
Lamar is who he is. He's not going to change. He's not
going to re-invent himself. He's had a number of years
as a starter and played for a number of teams. Sasha
has only played for the Lakers. I'm not sure that Trevor
has ever been a starter. That leads me to believe that
both of them have more upside, in terms of changing their
game, than Lamar does.

If Lamar ends up starting at SF, ok. If he does great at
SF I will happily say that I was wrong. If it were me,
Lamar would be 6th man or we would be making a
trade.

Lakertom,

you wrote:

PG: Derek Fisher/Jordan Farmar/Sun Yue
SG: Kobe Bryant/Sasha Vujacic/Coby Karl
SF: Trevor Ariza/Vladimir Radmanovic/Luke Walton
PF: Pau Gasol/Lamar Odom/Josh Powell
CE: Andrew Bynum/Chris Mihm/DJ Mbenga

my response. Done! I'll take it in a hearbeat.

thekobebryantblitz,

you wrote:

PG: Fisher/Farmar/Yue
SG: Bryant/Vujacic/Karl
SF: Odom/Ariza/Walton
PF: Gasol/Radmanovic/Powell
C: Bynum/Mihm/Open (Gasol)

my response: Who is your rebounder off the bench?
Mihm? Radmonovic? Ariza? Please. This gives us
no physical presence around the rim once the starters
are off the court. I'll take LakerTom's roster for the
championship.

Xodus,

I agree with you. Drew does have tons of potential and will be great. As good as Robinson? Most likely not but I would compare Drew's potential ceiling as almost but not as high as Robinson's. At the rate he was going in January, he was beginning to not only develop his offensive skill but also his post defense skill, something that Robinson excelled at. Shaq for all his greatness was better offensively than he was defensively really. As for all these comparison's, Drew's potential is near Robinson's, just not as high as the Admiral's was.

Robinson I might add, came to the NBA at age 24 since he had to fill 2 years of Navy duty and did extremely well. Drew is going to turn 21 this year. With what Drew is doing in Atlanta (really working his butt off), we can only see what develops when we have him and Pau in the front court.

THE INCREDIBLE BYNUM

http://tinyurl.com/5jq3m3

It's pretty darn good, I must say.

"But if I had to pick an MVP of the Gold Medal game, it would be Kobe. Without him, they would have taken home the LeSliver instead of the LeBronze"

If kobee was brought in to win the game in the 4th of the gold medal game, then he did his job.

But only thanks to the entire team especially USA'S more consistent and powerful scorers did kobee find himself in that position.

And if not for D'ANTONI, kobee wouldn't have become a basketball playa in the first place. So let's give D'ANTONI his credit for bringin home the gold!

"I just can not stand it anymore. Butler and Lets go C's, if you are going to constantly drool all over someone, please know his name. It is "Shaq" not "Shack". Shaq is short for his name...you know Shaquille. Now for Shack, look around you, it is what you live in."

You forgot the all-caps my friend. It's SHACK!

Shum,

>>>>>I think Sun has the skills, but what he really needs is the toughness to hustle
>>>>>and muscle in the NBA games in order to survive. People already said he needs
>>>>>to do the weight lifting 2 hours a day immediately, I totally agree LAKER
>>>>>TRUTH aka SASHA

Good to meet you, Tom. It’s funny that none of the basketball players from China seem to exhibit the aggressiveness and fierceness of some of the Chinese martial artists. It’s like we got Jackie Chan instead of Jet Li. LOL. Sun sometimes reminds me of a slimmer younger Jackie from certain angles. His sometimes has that same lopsided smile of Chan’s. And no disrespect to Jackie, who is a consummate performer and competitor – and nice guy.

I am sure that Sun will toughen up physically but at the same time he has the type of build that will likely become more wiry as he gets older rather than more muscular. He just needs to build up his ability to hold position against stronger players and the endurance needed to perform at the NBA level. While he is just 2 inches shorter than Lamar, you can see from his build that Sun does not have the body and bone structure to carry a lot of weight.

And I don’t think he needs to. His game will be height, length, speed, quickness, and athleticism. I agree with Fatty that Sun has the potential to become a great defensive point guard, especially with his excellent shot blocking skills. I see him becoming more like a taller and longer Michael Cooper or a smaller, quicker AK47 or Tayshaun Prince. He could make it tough for point guards to get shots and passes off down the road. Rather than hiring Magic to tutor him ala Kareem with Drew, I would hire Michael Cooper to school him.

Offensively, Sun is just the perfect combination for the Triangle Offense and the Lakers as a team because he has great height to see over the defense, excellent ball handling and passing skills, and a stroke that is bound to get much better – and he is not needed right now and can be seeded just as Sasha was to bloom a couple of years from now when Fish will be older. Additionally, you can see that Sun could remind fans a little of Magic in that he has a little flair for dramatics and hot dog in him but is also an outstanding ball handler who can run a pretty good fast break as well as finish above the rim himself.

It will take a couple of years for Sun to earn his stripes but it’s easy to see why the Lakers find him a very intriguing prospect. Like humanomaly commented, he is the Lakers fortune cookie: “Little risk with chance of big reward!” My gut says it will be big reward.

Tom

green weenie from beanie...(lets go cccs')

yah--we love kobe.....and we all know he's better than pierce......

so whatcha u gonna do...fool...

nothing..cause u cant.. :)

just be the green weenie from beanie...that plays by himself

Blitz,

>>>>>for those young players you mentioned here's my comparisons.

>>>>>Sun Yue-Boris Diaw

No. While both are versatile and share a similar skill set, their games are totally different. Sun Yue is point guard all the way. He is smaller, faster, quicker, and a better ball handler than Diaw. Sun also will have a big size and length advantage that will make him a better defensive player. While both will excel in a running game, Sun’s game is really a perimeter game whereas Diaw, as a bigger player, plays better in the interior, where he can use his great fakes and interior passing skills. Sun probably has greater range on his shot than Diaw.

Sun’s height and length and shot blocking ability remind me more of Michael Cooper. We would be blessed if he could develop the fire and intensity on defense that Coop had. I think with his speed, quickness, height, length, and shot blocking ability that Sun can become a shut down defender the Lakers have needed at point guard. He does a great job blocking shots from behind when players get by him. He has the tools to make it very hard for a lot of point guards to get off good shots. A smaller Lamar Odom or AK47 also come to mind.

Offensively, if the Lakers run, he may remind fans of Magic Johnson, just in that he is so damn tall and such a good ball handler for point guard. May my dreams come true. LOL.

>>>>>Sasha Vujacic-Brent Barry

Aside from the dumb move that Barry made in not launching that end-of-game shot when Fish bumped him, Barry was a much more athletic player (slam dunk champ) and as heady a player as his esteemed father. I don’t think Sasha has the basketball IQ or athleticism that Barry had. But otherwise, not a bad comparison. I may still like Steve Kerr, too. It would be heaven sent if Sasha proves to be as great a clutch shooter as those two guys.

>>>>>Jordan Farmar-Luke Ridenour

Again, I like the Tony Parker comparison at lot more. I think Jordan is not as fast and needs to make some giant strides to get there, but you can see the similarities to their games. Jordan is more of a scoring threat than Ridenour, who is more of a typical slow pass-first ball-control point guard who is no where near as athletic as Farmar (42 inch vertical leap) nor as battle tested in big games, although he did play in the PAC 10.

>>>>>Trevor Ariza-Tayshaun Prince without a jumper and not so long wingspan

Not bad. I can see the similarities. Prince, like all lefties, however, is a more crafty and tricky player offensively and defensively. He would be perfect on the Lakers, better than Artest in my opinion. He is wiry but proven tough. As you have said, Trevor has to show that he can play and not just display potential. Jamal Wilkes is what I would really hope Trevor would develop into. An excellent small forward who could play both ends of the court and was the perfect role player for a championship team.


>>>>>Andrew Bynum-David Robinson

Sorry, but I personally have always thought that the Admiral’s physical game on offense and defense were overrated. It was the mental side of the game that made him a Top 50 player. Again, hard to compare games of righties and lefties. Drew’s game is pretty unique when you really start to examine it. I cannot ever remember a center in recent years, including Shaq and Howard, who plays above the rim as much as Drew was doing the three months before his injury. I mean, he was grabbing rebounds and tossing down dunks from so far up that it was like a man playing with boys on an 8’ rim. And the way he all of a sudden got what Kareem was talking about and learned how to block shots and stay on the court. You can laugh all you want but this kid has a chance to be one of the greatest all-around centers in the history of the NBA. And he has not yet turned 21. His skill set is a beautiful blend of finesse and power. His work ethic has become Kobe-esque. Injuries are the only thing that will keep Andrew Bynum from becoming a Hall of Fame player. That’s just my opinion and I will stand by it and watch it come true.


Tom

hobbitmage,

"1st and foremost, all my roster suggestions/desires are
predicated upon Sasha & Trevor working on their game
this summer and getting better. It is my belief, based upon
biology, that Lamar can *NOT* increase his quickness."

It is alsy my belief, based on biology, that Sasha and Trevor will still not develop as much quickness even against Lamar until later in the future. In fact Sasha's lateral quickness is still not yet good to make him a really great defender, despite his intensity. Can Trevor bring more energy than Lamar off the bench? Sure, that is given hands down. Sasha still has a very raw slashing game and is of a pure shooter and it won't take one summer to simply give him into a reliable inside/outside guy. Same of Trevor, improving a jumpshot doesn't mean he will shoot lights out at the 3 point line next season, that takes time. Who is the better shooter overall? Sasha hands down but he will play shooting guard. Who has the better shooting touch at Small Forward (besides Kobe and Radman)? Odom. Until Ariza shows more quickness, both speed and lateral quickness, it is my opinion he cannot hang around the elite SF like Lebron and Carmelo. Odom may not be able to improve his quickness but at his stage his quickness is better than Ariza's. It takes *TIME* overall to improve one's quickness, it can't be attained one summer nor can it be attained by simply being in the starting lineup.

"re: Lamar's shooting percentage. I actually believe that
Lamar *COULD* become a better shooter. I'm not
convinced about the statistics because the west is
harder now than it was 3 years ago when we had
numbers for him at SF. I also believe that our team
is better and some of his numbers are time adjusted.
i.e. there was no one else to play and so he played more
and made more. Fundamentally, he does not inspire
me with his shooting."

Neither has Ariza's shooting and this point Ariza is more a slasher than a shooter. Odom's jumpshot may not be good as Sasha's or Kobe's but its still better than Ariza's. Again it takes *TIME* and simply being in the starting lineup does not *EQUAL* Ariza instantly getting a decent jumpshot.

Didn't I also say Lamar doesn't have to shoot threes and long range 2 pointers? You are always trying to convince me that Lamar *ALWAYS* has to shoot from the perimeter. Scottie Pippen (I AM NOT SAYING LAMAR IS OR IS AS GOOD AS PIPPEN) had a 30% shooting from 3 point land during the 6 years of championships on the Bulls. Oh he played Small Forward as well and still shot 3 pointers very crappy. Pippen simply drove into the lane and did near the basket shots many times. Odom at this point is far more better driving into the lane than Ariza is though nowhere near as talented as Pippen.

"Kobe's shooting/statistics. That is a fascinating point.
I'm glad you raised it. Let's get down to brass tacks.
Did you watch the Olympics? Kobe, with a damaged
pinky was nothing like he was 2 years ago. Until it
mattered. And then, he was "MONEY!" Has Lamar
ever had a single game like that? If Lamar had generated
the same level of clutchness as Kobe I'd say start him
wherever you want to."

I don't know why you are comparing Lamar to Kobe. That fact I made about Kobe's 3 point shooting this year was in response to your saying Lamar is a very poor shooter when in fact he shot 37.2% at threes (43% 3PT shooting during the Post All Star break in 05-06 too!). Is Kobe clutch at times? You bet. Is he always all the time? Even Jordan missed 20+ game winning shots so the answer is no. I don't know why you tried to compare Lamar to Kobe, heck why don't you compare Trevor to Kobe?

"Lamar vs. the other possible SF's. This is my take:
Lamar is who he is. He's not going to change. He's not
going to re-invent himself. He's had a number of years
as a starter and played for a number of teams. Sasha
has only played for the Lakers. I'm not sure that Trevor
has ever been a starter. That leads me to believe that
both of them have more upside, in terms of changing their
game, than Lamar does."

Upside is more how much can you improve your best talents and maximize them. Kobe is the most complete player in the game because he has all the tools: Defense, 3 point shooting, ability to create his own shots, driving into to the rim, converting difficult shots, rebounding (he rebounds well at his position), dishing the ball to other teammates for open shots, and running the defense (he has done this since Kobe and Shaq, Fisher runs the offense for us atm). You are right, Lamar's game won't change too much. Are you suggesting though Sasha will drive into the lane and finish like Kobe? Or that Trevor will become Glen Rice from the perimeter? Let me say it back to you: Their games won't change much despite their age. Will they get some skills such as better slashing and shooting? No doubt about it. They won't though change completely their game and become what their talent is not like. Sasha will probably mostly be a pure shooter while Trevor will mostly still be a slasher. Sasha isn't going to drive and dunk the ball that much nor will Trevor be a pure jump shooter. They could always improve those skilsl but they won't sacrifice their talents just to attain those skills. To do so will be just a waste of what they do best: Sasha from the outside and Trevor slashing inside. Even Clyde Drexler never completely abandoned his game of shooting inside shots to simply improve his jump shooting from the outside.

"If Lamar ends up starting at SF, ok. If he does great at
SF I will happily say that I was wrong. If it were me,
Lamar would be 6th man or we would be making a
trade."

If we did trade Lamar I would aim for Tayshaun Prince and another power forward (doubt it could be Rasheed must bleed Wallace).

"my response: Who is your rebounder off the bench?
Mihm? Radmonovic? Ariza? Please. This gives us
no physical presence around the rim once the starters
are off the court. I'll take LakerTom's roster for the
championship."

Here's the thing: The bench's game is somewhat different than the starters. The Starters are more pounding in the middle and defense (Pau and Drew). They also have Kobe as well. The bench though led by Jordan Farmar, last year played a high paced offensive game. One of the reasons the bench was so effective when Radman wasn't starting and had more offensive weapons than just Sasha and Jordan. In a way, they were/are a miniature version of Phoenix Suns basketball ala fastbreak. When they had to slow down, their weaknesses such as Jordan's personal defense and Sasha's streaky shooting were exposed in the half court. That's what the Celtics were able to expose in the playoffs. When the bench was out in the Finals, usually their high paced game slowed down considerably and they were taken out of their game not to mention their poor defense. Hence rebounding in a fast break team goes down. The Phoenix Suns when they run with Steve Nash averages low rebounds (another reason why they got Shaq, to get more rebounds though their game was changed because of it). 3/4 of the games we played vs Phoenix we always out rebounded them (even the one where Kwa-may Brown got booed). When we played against them with Shaq, we got out rebounded and we depended on our offense to beat the Suns and we did (though Kobe's fantastic shooting that night helped a ton too). Strictly put, the bench's strength is offense. Having Trevor and Sasha on it improves their defense which was their biggest weakness. I think also that Pau will be out there at times more than Mihm (Mihm will play from time to time but not as much) to improve the offense and pick and rolls even more. Having Lamar on the bench will improve the rebounding no doubt but Lamar is more fit in a system kind of offense than a fast break one. Plus having him there at PF on the bench will lower the defense of the bench which is the biggest weakness as I said before (even if Radman stays at the 3, do you think he is a defender?). Having Trevor gives great energy to the bench and improves their style of offense (remember his dunk on Grant Hill, Jordan was racing down the Staples Center and guess who got the dunk? Trevor Ariza.) Trevor's defense will be useful against the other team's bench guys as well. Radman and Sasha opens up 3 point shooting. Mihm may play but I predict more Pau since him at center really is a good fit for Jordan's game since they too can play pick and roll just as Kobe and Pau did. The Lakers bench is almost a team of its own. Having Lamar will change their game completely and while their rebounding picks up, so does their offense slow down and their weaknesses are exposed, just like the Suns when they got the Big Mistake.

-Blitz

kobeblitz,

You can throw all those REGULAR SEASON stats from Lamar out the window. We're talkin about the Lakers and the next dynasty. It's about getting those kinds of numbers when it matters most, especially from a player that makes $14 mil. per year.

During the second half of the series against the Spurs and the entire series against Boston, the opposition had a singular defensive game plan, which was to leave Lamar WIDE open on the perimeter and to only guard his predictable penetration to his left. With this strategy, Lamar turned out to be an easy cover. His ineffectiveness and inability to spread the floor was a huge factor in losing to Boston.

In next year's playoffs, I guarantee you it won't be just the Spurs and the Celts that use this strategy. The rest of the league saw what happened. Lamar played well in the Utah series because Boozer and the gang, for some reason (Sloan?), followed and defended Lamar out on the perimeter, instead of using his man to double Kobe or defend the paint. Lamar was effective because he was able to use his speed (relative to PFs) to drive by his defenders and to cut to the basket without the ball. If the Lakers face Utah in the playoffs again, Jerry Sloan will NOT make the same mistake twice (nor will any other coach in the playoffs).

Lamar's 3 point shooting % that you cited is irrelevant. We all know that his 3 point % makes a significant drop when the pressure is on. That's the LAST trait I want from a starting SF making $14 mil a year on a budding Dynasty. As Long Time Laker Fan said, Ariza is young and the jury is still out on how mentally tough he can be. The jury delivered the verdict on Lamar's mental strength years ago.

hobbitmage,

"my response: Who is your rebounder off the bench?"

Answer: Josh Powell.

GO LAKERS!

Paul Lee,

"Can Bynum return to form or be even better than he was before? (They say hes gotten bigger 300 pounds of legit muscle.)"

Who are this mysterious "THEY"?

Is this the same "They" that says Sasha is daily shooting 100 nothing-but-net halfcourt shots while blindfolded?

Or is it the same "They" that says Lamar Odom has MASTERED the running skyhook during this offseason?

Or could it be the same "They" that says Trevor Ariza can now effortlessly dunk from the THREE-POINT LINE after a hard working offseason?

Or perhaps the same "They" that says Vladimir Radmonovich has learned to play defense like a cross between Bruce Bowen and the X-Men's Wolverine... but better?

Or maybe the "They" that notes how Chris Mihm after batheing daily in radioactive bathes of Dit Da Jow has not only complete repaired his ankle, but has gained a five foot standing vertical jump, insect-fast reflexes, and a skeletal density such that he now punches through cinderblock walls for fun? Was it those guys?

I'm just wondering.

GO LAKERS!

Posted by: Jon K. | August 26, 2008 at 08:41 AM

========================
Jon K

SSSHHHH

You're giving away all our secrets. LOL

BK & ex,

S&H Green Stamps? I will bet you half of the readers don’t even know what they were. LOL. The same half that never heard of slide rules. How many books for that Kobe jersey?

Tom


Posted by: LakerTom | August 26, 2008 at 09:57 AM

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Lets not forget Blue Chip Stamps.

Phil Jackson is silly. He said it was Rodman because he didn't want to put down Jordan or Kobe. If all Kobe or Jordan had to do was run underneath the basket, guard a guy, and grab a rebound, they could have more energy after 48 minutes too!

Try scoring 30 points a game and guarding the best player on the other team and chasing him all over the court!!! and THEN let's see who's the better athlete! I can't believe Phil said that.

Posted by: zen | August 26, 2008 at 01:22 PM

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I can. PJ is has been living off past glory of great players.

 

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