Some Ronny 411, some Crawford background and some Kobe praise
As the adage goes, "Did he or didn't he?" Such is the question surrounding whether Ronny Turiaf has indeed signed an offer sheet with Golden State, a "rumor" Mitch Kupchak had acknowledged but hadn't seen the accompanying concrete evidence or confirmation. According to Turiaf's agent, the papers could be hitting Mitch's desk sometime today, should things go to plan. The four-year/17-mil salary rumored to be in play would far outweigh the dollars coming second-round draft pick Joe Crawford's way, should he end up making the squad. If the kid gets cut, it won't be because his hide is chaffed at having to prove his worth. The Ax might come, however, because the powers that be don't think he's ready to provide even limited minutes in relief of Kobe Bryant, whom, in an argument laid out by Hoopsworld's Travis Health, is... the best ... around.
Which presumably means nothing's gonna ever keep him down.
My thoughts on Ronny's situation (outside of what BK already said): Like my brother, all things being equal (and by "equal," I mean, "me not footing the bill"), I'd just as soon the Lakers match the offer. As much as the price tag could at times mean paying reasonably big ducats for limited minutes, the guys theoretically in his place (Andrew Bynum, Chris Mihm, a more injured than not over the course of his career Lamar Odom) aren't slam dunks for healthy seasons. Thus, the need for Turiaf could present itself. Plus, depending on what happens with Odom past this season (or even this offseason, perhaps), we could be looking at a situation where Ronny plays more backup minutes in 2010 and beyond than next season. Plus, he's a great teammate and person (and often a productive player, especially when given the minutes or at his natural spot), which is always a plus.
That being said, I do understand the negatives. If Turiaf doesn't have a defined role, the salary could feel exorbitant. His limitations were also exposed a lot as the season wore down, definitely in part because of the grind of playing undersized and out of position so often, and perhaps a little because of conditioning (which Ronny said he's looking to improve during his exit meeting). And in the world of luxury tax implications, four mil means eight, a sizable number for a bench player not named "Manu," "Leandro" or "Mike M." The flip side, however, is that basically anyone replacing Turiaf sparks that tax, so you have to think about whether the dude replacing him (and the list of free agent big men outside of Kurt Thomas ain't impressive) is worth 4-5 mil (double a 2-3 mil salary) is a better option than just paying a little more to Ronny. Or if you're going to be as happy with a 31-year old James Posey three years into a 4-5 year deal (as he's said to want) as you are next season. Or if it's easier to replace a big than an admittedly more productive shooting guard (like, say, Sasha Vujacic). Lot o' questions and I can't say I envy Mitch Kupchak.
At any rate, my gut says that, assuming the papers ever arrive and the numbers are correct, it's about 70-30 Ronny plays up north. But I'm also a terrible prognosticator at times (Lakers in 5 over the Celts???) so what do I know?
AK
At this point pass.
Posted by: Charles | July 10, 2008 at 12:31 PM
AK,
It was easy to get the Celts vs. Lakers prediction wrong. I mean, heck, we beat the Spurs (albeit with a banged up Manu) in 5! The defensive stalwart, defending champs!
As for Turiaf, I think you make some really good points. And not just because in my heart I really want to keep the guy and am looking for any justification. Okay, maybe a little.
Much of what we have seen is Turiaf playing out of position.
He plays with heart and big defensive effort.
He can backup our unhealthy bigs.
He's good for team chemistry.
He and Kobe are buddies.
He knows our system which is difficult for many to learn.
He knows what it's like playing with our current roster.
All things being equal or close to equal I think you keep a squad together.
I think keeping him does make sense.
Posted by: Benjamin | July 10, 2008 at 12:42 PM
It's easy to forget just how young Ronny is, too. I totally agree with Benjamin's points. Big heart. Big effort. Sure, he might not have "shown up" against the Celtics, but you can say that about a lot of the roster. They're (mostly) young. But they're hungry, and now they now what it feels like to lose on the biggest stage in the NBA. If we can do it, I'd love to see Ronny... both on the court AND on the sideline.
Posted by: The Outlaw | July 10, 2008 at 12:54 PM
It's almost a shame that the Lakers have such an embarassment of riches (in terms of player talent) that everyone feels blase about watching Turiaf walk away. Who is going step up this year if the Laker big men start getting hurt again?
Posted by: guity | July 10, 2008 at 12:56 PM
That's OK AK. You lead with your heart (on your predictions). We're cool with that lol.
My Ronny love says please match it Mitch! But the accountant part of my brain...by the way the one that cannot balance a check book, etc lol...says we just can't afford it. You sign him, and though it won't count against the cap this year, it will in subsequent years...you add the players that have extensions coming up (Bynum, LO, maybe even Kobe in 09) and we're talking big buckeroos that doubles with the tax.
I just don't know what to do about this.
Go Lakers!
Posted by: Faith | July 10, 2008 at 12:57 PM
If we lose Ronny over $4 million a year it'll make chocking on Radmanovic's $5 mil/year even more difficult...
Posted by: SG | July 10, 2008 at 01:04 PM
AK,
I agree with your arguments in keeping RT. We already know what he can do within our system and there is still room for improvement. To venture at this time into the unknown is simply too risky.
I say we should keep Ronny at all cost and work hard to get rid of Luke Walton and Chris Mihm. Mitch can find a way to do this.
Posted by: Robyn | July 10, 2008 at 01:06 PM
WHY YOU CAN’T TRUST FREE AGENCY…
I’m listen to Dan Patrick interview Elton Brant right now. Bottom line, he says that the Clippers disrespected him by not agreeing to a deal the first day and by not being willing to get Donald Sterling on the phone to talk to Brand and Falk when they wanted. Brand said that Falk suggested “Let’s go find some owners who will pick up the phone.” Brand said he would probably still be a Clipper if Sterling had been willing to take a call.
Brand also said there was no deal with Baron Davis about the two of them being Clippers. Dan ended the call by asking Elton to not pull a “Donald Sterling” by not calling me back. LOL.
Earlier the big call of the day on Jim Rome had a caller who made a great point about the Clippers is that they needed to realize that due to their reputation they needed to be extra careful not to insult or offend Brand. He pointed out that companies that don’t treat their key employees with respect and even pamper them usually go out of business. Looks like Sterling and Baylor really screwed their golden goose.
Tom
Posted by: LakerTom | July 10, 2008 at 01:06 PM
Lakertom and Edwin Gueco,
Just wanted to let you guys know I responded to your thought-provoking posts in the Ronny Turiaf signs with the Warriors thread.
I didn't forget you guys!
Posted by: Benjamin | July 10, 2008 at 01:07 PM
David Falk is a scumbag.
If I see him, I'm going to kick him in the balls.
Go Clippers!
GO LAKERS!
Posted by: Jon K. | July 10, 2008 at 01:08 PM
If Ronny goes away, who´s gonnabe the PF backup?
Can Odom play the 3?
If not, is he worthy 14million to be a PF backup?
How can we get cap space to resign Bynum?
How can we dump Vlad's awful contract? Or Luke's?
So many questions unsolved.
A trade of Lamar + Vlad for Wally + Varejão would solve all these questions and we could get a first round pick as bonus.
Posted by: Allan - Brazil | July 10, 2008 at 01:09 PM
I hope that the Lakers resign Ronny Turiaf.
We can't let the financial evils that pervade the NBA break us apart like they have the Clippers.
Stick together. Win a championship.
GO LAKERS!
Posted by: Jon K. | July 10, 2008 at 01:10 PM
So the offer is officially on the table eh? Odom for Artest...
Geoff and the Maloofs may want to act on it while they still have the chance.
You know McHale and Bird are both kicking themselves for what "could have been" last summer...
Posted by: Tim-4-Show | July 10, 2008 at 01:13 PM
Faith,
I share the sentiments.
Posted by: Charles | July 10, 2008 at 01:16 PM
ok. i'l admit it - this is one of those situations where you can't help but vote with your heart...
i'll be the first to admit ronny's numbers don't really add up to the 5 mil - but the fans LOVE ronny, and last time i checked, we were the ones paying the bills.
truth is, ronny brought it EVERY night. whatever was asked of him - garbage or limited minutes, playing out of position, whatever it was - ronny gave you everything he had, whether he had it to give or not.
the thing about ronny isn't always so much always WHAT he does, but WHO he is. is there someone out there in the NBA that loves the game more, is more humble, or a better teammate? in many ways, i guess ronny's greatest attraction is that he geeks it like you or i would if we woke up one day and got told we could suit up for the purple and gold as a walk on. every game was like christmas to ronny - no matter what he ended up having to do.
does all this make him worth pushing farther into the luxury tax? well - truth is there's a lot less quality dirty work big men out there than shooters, and we definitely need to tighten up some kind of rotation up front when andrew gets back. (what the hell are we still doing with chris mihm? does he have incriminating pictures of someone in the front office? if you add up how much we've spent on him vs. the minutes he's played in the last 3 years - he probably makes more per miniute than kobe)
whatever happens - i wish ronny the best wherever he goes, and if he comes back to staples in a golden state uni, i'll still give him the love when they call his name out (just like we did when fish boned out, or horry comes through town).
maybe he didn't put up the big numbers - but for the spirit, and the love of the game, and his team, ronny is still one of my ALL TIME favorite lakers. the nba needs more people like him.
Posted by: buck down | July 10, 2008 at 01:16 PM
SG,
"If we lose Ronny over $4 million a year it'll make chocking on Radmanovic's $5 mil/year even more difficult..."
At this point, Vlad is more valuable to the Lakers than Turiaf is.
Posted by: exhelodrvr | July 10, 2008 at 01:21 PM
I have no doubt the Lakers intend to match Turiaf.
Everything as normal. You pay MARKET rate not an inflated "I'm worried" rate like we paid Luke last summer.
Turiaf = bargain
Quit sweatin it everyone. Turiaf is not going anywhere
Posted by: Tim-4-Show | July 10, 2008 at 01:22 PM
Andrew the K,
Do you have a link somewhere to the comparitive profitability of NBA franchises?
I don't give a darn if the Lakers are spending ridiculously large amounts of money for their players, as long as the franchise remains moderately profitable.
Sign Ronny!
GO LAKERS!
Posted by: Jon K. | July 10, 2008 at 01:24 PM
Sign and trade Turiaf and Vlad for Al Harrington. I would switch Vlad with Walton, but I don't think the Warriors would take that albatross of a contract. Works out for both teams.
Posted by: E-ROC | July 10, 2008 at 01:25 PM
E-Roc (and everyone else who'll offer a similar solution),
"Sign and trade Turiaf and Vlad for Al Harrington. I would switch Vlad with Walton, but I don't think the Warriors would take that albatross of a contract. Works out for both teams."
You CANNOT match an offer sheet to sign and trade a restricted FA. It's against CBA rules. There's also a certain time that must pass before you can even trade him, period.
AK
Posted by: Andrew Kamenetzky | July 10, 2008 at 01:28 PM
I was hoping the Lakers would draft Jamont Gordon with their second pick instead of Joe Crawford.
Posted by: E-ROC | July 10, 2008 at 01:29 PM
http://www.forbes.com/lists/2007/32/
biz_07nba_NBA-Team-Valuations_Rank.html
Lakers are making plenty of money.
Sign Ronny!
GO LAKERS!
Posted by: Jon K. | July 10, 2008 at 01:32 PM
If we lose Ronny I really think Vlad will have to step up as the backup PF and he can spread the floor at that position and it will also clear up the logjam at SF...he definitely doesn't have the strength to go up against the elite 4's in the league but on the flip side they have to match up w/him around the perimeter...I just feel this is the only solution to losing Turiaf
Posted by: rob | July 10, 2008 at 01:36 PM
I don't give a darn if the Lakers are spending ridiculously large amounts of money for their players, as long as the franchise remains moderately profitable.
Sign Ronny!
GO LAKERS!
Posted by: Jon K. | July 10, 2008 at 01:24 PM
I might be going out on a limb but my guess is Dr. Buss gives a little "darn" right?
Posted by: rob | July 10, 2008 at 01:40 PM
I really think the Lakers will be able to dig up a replacement. Theyre gonna have to get creative to make this work out given the salary situation. It might not be as good as Ronny, the bench might decline a bit, but look how good our starting five is gonna be.
Posted by: DS | July 10, 2008 at 01:49 PM
SPIN!
Elton Brand is so full of it. Disrespected? Yeah, I think we'd all feel "disrespected" if somebody offered us $70 some odd million. HOW RIDICULOUS! Oh... he didn't personally call you on the phone to say here, here's $70 some odd million, he had the people who actually run the basketball operation do it, oh... how HORRIBLE that must have been... sniff...
Spin spin spin
This is ALL Faulk. The Clippers tried to talk to Brand behind his back and Faulk went into DESTROY mode. They can SPIN it as much as they want, Brand is a SCUMBAG and so is Faulk.
BOYCOTT anything to do with Elton Brand.
Posted by: Kwaminus that Elton Brand is a SCUMBAG Brownicus | July 10, 2008 at 01:50 PM
Boycott:
http://www.gibraltarfilms.com/bios.htm
and any movie they come out with.
Posted by: Kwaminus that Elton Brand is a SCUMBAG Brownicus | July 10, 2008 at 01:53 PM
Ronny is a nice guy and a good player, but he's getting overpaid. Got to let him go. PJ has never had a problem fitting new role players in and getting more from them than they gave anywhere else. Plus Turiaf cannot spend more than 20 minutes on the court without fouling out. He'll walk.
I'd still prefer to trade Lamar and filler for Okafor and filler. Keep Artest away from this team. He is a bomb waiting to go off, just ask Detroit fans and his wife. He cannot be compared to Rodman - Rodman was a puppy dog who wanted attention, Artest won't be dying his hair or wearing wedding dresses, he'll be isolating 20 feet from the basket and complaining about the triangle. He's a garbage shooter.
Do what it takes to sign Posey. 5.8 million for 5 years if he wants it. So what? In 3 years when he's on the decline, 5.8 mill won't be that much. He's a character guy with a tough mind. Get the deal done now while he's out there.
Posted by: DrewPauKobe | July 10, 2008 at 01:57 PM
I wish the Clipps would disrespect me with 75 Mil. I heard the same thing Tom and I have to agree with Jon K that the agent for EB and EB himself are disingenuous at best.
Why do they need to talk to Sterling exactly? Was Elgin taking a nap? Isn't that Elgin's job? Like I said yesterday, I don't begrudge anyone for taking more money, but don't give me junk about "disrespect" when an offer was made.
I have no emotional connection to the Clipps – but I have to say that EB and agent are in the wrong. If I was Sterling I'd come out and tell EB to grow the F up and don't the door hit you in the ass.
Posted by: HmrHed | July 10, 2008 at 01:58 PM
Congrats Elton Brand on getting out of the Clipper nightmare. Donald Sterling deserves nobody's respect. They lowballed EB, then slowly raised the offer while going around his agent to do so. Meanwhile, other teams were falling over themselves to give him what he wanted.
And in the end EB took $10 mill less to go to Philly than he could have gotten from the Warriors, so he clearly wanted to get into a better basketball situation with a better organization, not just more dollars.
Clippers should have done a sign and trade with Miami 4 years ago when he wanted out.
Posted by: DrewPauKobe | July 10, 2008 at 02:02 PM
Jon K.,
When you see Falk also apply the Tiger Claw blow to his sternum for me. Falk, Stu Jackson and Utah Jazz owner Larry Miller are some of biggest degenerates in the NBA.
Posted by: Rollo | July 10, 2008 at 02:02 PM
Kwaminus that Elton Brand is a SCUMBAG Brownicus,
I find it difficult to hate Elton Brand, but I'm finding it very easy to hate his dirty scumbag agent, David Falk.
I'm disappointed that Elton Brand has chosen to have such a dirty, flithbag, scumbag, explitive, explitive as an agent.
Go Clippers!
GO LAKERS!
Posted by: Jon K. | July 10, 2008 at 02:07 PM
HmrHed
You may disrespect me for $74 million.
Ill just ground and pound later.
Posted by: Charles | July 10, 2008 at 02:16 PM
Long Time,
>>>>>LakerTom,
>>>>>Deal.
>>>>>Good to know that Bynum will be around for awhile. :-)
Thanks. I might have made a few posts before I saw this on a previous post. If so, just ignore them. I can’t even write about Drew anymore without considering how you’re going to respond. LOL. It’s been fun though and I have to say that there is poster on the blog who is a tougher or more focused and logical debater that LTLF. Thank God you’re a Lakers fan and not a troll. You can fly wing for me any time or vice versa.
Tom
Posted by: LakerTom | July 10, 2008 at 02:16 PM
Going into the off-season I said I'd be happy if the only moves we made where to re-sign Sasha & Ronny. I'll stick to that despite wanting to land Posey. RE-SIGN THEM !
Posted by: LALAKERLOVER | July 10, 2008 at 02:18 PM
Benjamin,
>>>>>I didn't forget you guys!
Thanks. It’s not basketball so I responded on old thread.
Tom
Posted by: LakerTom | July 10, 2008 at 02:21 PM
I was hoping that Elton Brand was going to be the first jersey retired by the Clippers. This sucks.
I don't know. Maybe tomorrow will be a better day.
Maybe tomorrow David Falk will be have all his money set afire and as he runs crying into the streets he'll be ripped apart by dozens of rabid wolverines.
That would be cool.
Go Clippers!
GO LAKERS!
Posted by: Jon K. | July 10, 2008 at 02:22 PM
"in many ways, i guess ronny's greatest attraction is that he geeks it like you or i would if we woke up one day and got told we could suit up for the purple and gold as a walk on."
well said. watching ronny play and cheer makes me happy.
about mihm though, i'm okay with him still being on the roster. the lakers are willing to stick by players while becoming championship caliber and it shows character. the front office stuck with lamar, and vlad, and luke, and turiaf, and bynum, and mihm when theyve had reason and opportunity not to. phil seemingly has a similar stance, letting players play, sticking with people who aren't producing like we would want. and we came within an injury(kobe, luke, fish, bynum, mihm, or ariza being a little more functional, or pierce or perkins staying down) of the obrian so it's not like the system is broken.
Posted by: db | July 10, 2008 at 02:26 PM
If Colby Karl can make the roster, Crawford should. He should beat Colby out for a spot. Plus, Joe can possibly play the point in a pinch, Colby can't. Let Rony go for the money. I love the guy, but I don't wnt to overpay to keep him. See Luke/Vlad. Don't need another one.
Posted by: edward lacy | July 10, 2008 at 02:31 PM
I feel we should re-sign Ronny, even if his minutes will be limited this year. Next year Lamars contract is up and he could easily be gone. Also Mihms contract is up as well. If Cris doesnt regain his pre injury form, we wont resign him. And in a league without a lot of good centers, if Cris regains form we may not be able to afford him as a back up. My guess is we will lose at least one of them next year. So ya, we need to keep him for the long haul.
MH
Posted by: michael h | July 10, 2008 at 02:34 PM
get rid of walton and keep turiaf and sasha
Posted by: cjboi204 | July 10, 2008 at 02:35 PM
Kiwi,
>>>>> Lakertom...you seem to have your finger on the pulse
>>>>>so Ive got a question for you
>>>>>Chris Mihm...Would a team take a chance on him?
>>>>>I mean could we package him with one of the small forwards
>>>>>for some cap relief or a quality player?
Yes, but I think the Lakers believe there is a good chance he might get all the way back and they need a solid backup to Drew (even though Pau will be first backup). I even think they will re-sign Mbenga as insurance at center. He is definitely a tradable asset.
>>>>>Personally I feel theres a bigger chance than people feel that
>>>>>we keep Turiaf...simply becasue if theres an injury to one of our centres
>>>>>then we are relying entirely on Mihm...its a prime year for a championship
>>>>>and we are relying on two guys who are basically untested after
>>>>>coming off serious injuries.
I just sort of recanted after reading AK’s take with my main concern that other Kurt Thomas, who else is there out there who can play the 4? I think it is 50/50 right now. And if we are going to trade Lamar for Artest, then we match offer for Ronny.
>>>>>I just wonder if the lakers bite the bullet,sign Sasha and Ronny
>>>>>then look for other ways to free up some money.
Lamar for Artest would ultimately save them dollars, even if Lamar takes a cut and Artest gets a raise. While the Lakers would not let Lamar walk to clear dollars, they might let Kenny Thomas and his $9M contract expire to reduce their total salary and reduce tax.
>>>>>No way Posey leaves the celts
You are most likely right although the Celtics would not be able to sign Head or Allen. I wouldn’t take him for more than 2 years though but he might bite because they would make him a free agent with LeBron in 2009/10.
Tom
Posted by: LakerTom | July 10, 2008 at 02:38 PM
Joe Crawford could make the team as a defensive specialist. As long as his outside shot is serviceable and he passes to the right people on offense there will certainly be minutes available when we play Deron Williams, Chris Paul, Tony Parker, etc. etc.
If I'm the GM of an NBA team, I'm looking at ANY Falk client with wary eyes...
Posted by: Kwaminus I don't fit in a Toyota Yaris Brownicus | July 10, 2008 at 02:54 PM
richtown,
Thanks for your response. I agree Sasha would love Nelson’s offense. I read the Warriors intentions are for Ronny to be their backup center. In their offense, he could play that position as he showed on the Lakers and their starting center is no banger either. Whatever, I think it is good move for Ronny but we will have to see.
The Warriors are still prone to self-destructing and of Mullin and Nelson in the local papers from Tim Kawakami and Gwen Knapp. They will hurt without Baron at point.
Tom
Posted by: LakerTom | July 10, 2008 at 02:54 PM
Nobody is talking about Mitch's comments about Drew being cleared by his doctor to start rehab training in NYC but "not being cleared," to resume the rehab/physical therapy for his knee. What in the world is that all about?
Posted by: Nik Kannan | July 10, 2008 at 03:14 PM
On a semi Joe Crawford note...
I wish the Lakers had bought a high 2nd round draft pick this
year. The Lakers are in danger of being priced out of two of
their better role players, and some quality players slipped
way down in the draft.
It would have been nice to re-stock with someone like
Mario Chalmers or DeAndre Jordan or Chris Douglas-Roberts.
I'm not saying one of those guys could have stepped into Sasha's
or Ronnie's shoes, but it would be nice to have a young-un
or two in the pipeline.
Posted by: Long Time Laker Fan | July 10, 2008 at 03:14 PM
"At this point, Vlad is more valuable to the Lakers than Turiaf is." -- Posted by: exhelodrvr
At this point, Vlad is worth ZERO to the Lakers, so you must not think much of Ronny...
Vlad is a disaster. The Lakers will not win a championship if Vlad plays any significant minutes...
Posted by: SG | July 10, 2008 at 03:21 PM
Lakers offer odom for artest according to realgm.com
http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/53510/20080710/source_lakers_offer_odom_for_artest/
Posted by: chitown laker | July 10, 2008 at 03:24 PM
EVENING SCOOP: ARTEST TO THE LAKERS?
by Bill Ingram for HoopsWorld.com
http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?story_id=9427
Here is excerpt that relates to Artest:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Now that most of the top name free agents have landed where they're going to land, it's time to start talking about the guys who are likely to be traded as teams start to look at what it will take to compete at the next level. Naturally, the top name that's going to get tossed around is Ron Artest, and today the leading rumor is that he could land in LA with the Lakers.
The catch for any team making a deal for Artest is that the Kings are going to use him as a means to unload one of their albatross contracts. Kenny Thomas and Shareef Abdur-Rahim are more than likely to come up in any discussion, as the Kings owe them basically $20 million and $13 million respectively . . .and neither was really in the rotation late last season.
The Lakers are willing to move Lamar Odom to the Kings for Artest, but that's hardly doing the Kings a favor. Odom's $14 million will come off the books next summer, but it also means basically throwing away the 2008-09 season. Artest is a much better player than Odom, and has been someone who has pushed his teammates to be better at every level. Kevin Martin will be the first to tell you that Artest's constant pressure made him a better defender, worthy of the $53 million contract he signed last summer.
It's highly likely that Artest will get dealt this summer, but you can bet it will be a package deal where the receiving team eats a bad contract. That team won't be the Lakers unless they wind up losing Ronny Turiaf and feel Thomas or Abdur-Rahim can help fill that void.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Tom
Posted by: LakerTom | July 10, 2008 at 03:29 PM
EVENING SCOOP: ARTEST TO THE LAKERS?
by Bill Ingram for HoopsWorld.com
http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?story_id=9427
And here is some latest news on Posey…
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
James Posey is expected to announce that he'll re-sign with the Boston Celtics in the next 24 hours . . .Brent Barry is close to signing with the Houston Rockets . . .Ty Lue is likely to land in Phoenix . . .Jason Williams is rumored to be close to landing with the Orlando Magic . . .the Lakers will have an opportunity to match the Warriors' offer sheet to Ronny Turiaf as early as tomorrow.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Tom
Posted by: LakerTom | July 10, 2008 at 03:33 PM