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Stuff people said (Game 4)

June 13, 2008 | 12:55 pm

Obviously there was much to talk about after last night's game.  Here's some of what people said, in addition to what we posted on the blog last night.  More to come from practice later...

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PHIL JACKSON: 

Q: Some turnaround in that ballgame.  The air went out of that building.

    You've got to give them credit.  Their defense was up to the task in the third quarter and changed some momentum of the game.

    Q.  What's happening to your team in the third quarters?  This is the fourth straight game where they've had a big advantage on you there.
    PHIL JACKSON:  Maybe I shouldn't have talked about it at halftime, but I mentioned it to them at halftime that we had to come out and win that third quarter.  We talked about the fact of the disparity.  But their defense in front of the bench, I think they played much better defense there where they're coached very well from the bench or from the floor.  Their bench plays defense well, and they caught us in a situation where we didn't execute very well.

Q.  Can you talk about matching up with their shorter lineup, their shooting lineup?
    PHIL JACKSON:  Yes.  Well, that changed the course of the game, obviously.  Time out called, Perkins is injured, we're up by 20 points.  They put in Posey and House, and they spread the lineup and run screen rolls, put some pressure on us to have to match up on screen rolls and have three pointers available and they hit shots in the second half.

Q.  Can you describe what happened on the play where Ray Allen in the final minute was able to isolate one on one against Vujacic and make the basket?
    PHIL JACKSON:  Well, they just into an open floor situation, an open floor we have nobody to run, jump with on that kind of a line up. We had done it a possession, two possessions before and Posey had hit a three, so we just said to the guys, stay home, take care of your guy, make him take a tough shot, and Allen was able to get by Sasha on that.

Q.  What do you possibly tell your team after a game like that, up 24, you end up losing by six?
    PHIL JACKSON:  Well, it's not over.  This is not over.  The series is not over.

Q.  That's what you said?

    PHIL JACKSON:  Right.

Q.  What's the tenor of the locker room right now?

    PHIL JACKSON:  Oh, they're very depressed about that.  With the kind of momentum they carried into the locker room at halftime and having a 20 point lead in the fourth quarter, it's very difficult right now.

Q.  Sasha went from being the big hero in last game, and this game he's sitting on the bench really upset, his demeanor looked torn apart right now.  Do you think this young player can turn this around and do you think you need to tell him anything or talk to him?
    PHIL JACKSON:  No, they're resilient.  These guys are resilient. They have disappointments, they come back.  It's about team effort now that we have to make sure that we have a good collective energy again, come out and play that first half like we did before.

Q.  I've heard you talk in the past about the trappings of having such a big lead and how sometimes teams get maybe a little careless. Was that one of the reasons that led to them coming back?
    PHIL JACKSON:  I'm sure it is, but you know, there's some things that they did exceptionally well.  You know, Pau had a dunk.  It was a block or a foul, but it was a bang bang play.  They reacted to those kind of things.  They reacted to passing situations, destroyed passing lanes.  Those are some of the things.  I didn't think we got some lackadaisical.
    One of the things I was concerned about was that Kobe hadn't scored a field goal in the first half, and that puts some    then they knew, hey, he's going to come out and try to get some scores so we're going to have to commit as a team.  They committed as a team and we didn't have guys that stepped up and helped out in that second half.

Q.  Can you talk a little bit about the decision, the point guard decision, between Jordan and Fish?  You had Jordan play a lot of minutes down the stretch.  Was that a match up thing?  And also with Vladdy for Lamar at the end?
    PHIL JACKSON:  I just felt that Jordan's quickness against Eddie House was probably important for us to have, a little more harassing defense up the court and some pressure in his reactive time a little bit.  But Lamar had a great first half.
    The second half obviously wasn't as successful.  But they were what we call spying off him, going and helping off him and double teaming, and we need to spread the court and open up the court so we could get something accomplished there at the end of the game and get some opening opportunities in the lane.

Q.  Talk to us a bit about the confidence that you have in your team to win the next three games
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    PHIL JACKSON:  Our back is against the wall, but it's just a game at a time, and that's one thing we have to understand.  We have to keep forcing the action because anything can happen in these situations. You just keep playing through it and you'll find a way to keep succeeding as you go along.  We lost that in the third quarter and left that energy out there on the floor.

Q.  Do you feel like your team played a little tight down the stretch?
    PHIL JACKSON:  No, I thought they played tight in the third quarter.  When they came out of the second two minute time out, second time out in the third quarter, you know, I was saying that we were playing without poise.  We didn't have confidence in our execution skills at that time, and their harassing defense obviously is part to credit, as that goes.  But I felt that we got out of character at that time and they got us a little bit scattered.

Q.  I know there's a lot of stuff that contributed to this, but no steals in the second half for your time.  Can you talk about that?
    PHIL JACKSON:  Turnovers, steals, we kept saying we've got to get some turnovers, we've got to force something, and we didn't.  We couldn't find a way to    they kept the ball in Pierce's hands, and in situations which I thought they were relatively secure with.  But my issue with the team is we gave up too many lay ups, too many lay ups in the second half that cost us the ballgame.

DOC RIVERS:

Q. What kept you guys in it despite the fact you were down 24
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    DOC RIVERS:  Well, I really thought the fact that we had made a couple runs in the first half, you know, got to within 13 a couple times and then they got it right back up, it let us know that we were capable of making runs.
    So the whole key was us getting stops.  They came out in the first quarter, scored every time down.  I thought we actually had great shots.  I think I counted three or four lay ups and three or four wide open jump shots and then they came down and scored.  So I just think going small, spacing the floor, scoring, but getting stops.  The whole key was that they just didn't give up, and that comes from them.  Nothing I did.  They just had enough mental toughness to hang in there long enough, and I'm really proud of them in that fact.

Q.  Just talk about finally getting over the hump when you guys got the basket that gave you the lead and what that did for your guys' confidence?
    DOC RIVERS:  Well, I thought once we got it to down one and down three, we felt pretty good.  We felt very good.  The one little stretch I was a little concerned, I think it was two minutes left right before the fourth.  I knew I had to give Kevin a rest, and I thought Leon    he only played four minutes, but they were a huge four minutes.  It allowed Kevin to rest and get back on the floor and then finish with energy.  I thought that for us was a big stretch in the game.  Once we got the lead, obviously we were thrilled to death.  As far as when we were down, nothing was going right for us, and we just hung in there.

Q.  And talk about this in terms of comebacks you've had in your career as a coach and where you are in the position you're in now.
    DOC RIVERS:  Well, it's a good position to be in, but you have to win one game four times, you know what I'm saying.  We've only done it three times as far as I'm concerned.  Obviously we're thrilled with the win and it's a great comeback, but we still have to win one game and that's the way we view it.  As far as the comeback, it was a great comeback, but you don't get anything for it.

Q.  Can you talk about the decision to go with the three point shooters and why that worked so well?
    DOC RIVERS:  Well, because they were just trapping all over the floor.  You know, they were trapping off Rajon, they were trapping off Perk early.  I brought it up to our staff yesterday, probably a 50/50 split, and I just did it, honestly, because I thought we had to have floor spacing.  When Pose made those shots, I knew that from that point on, we were going to have one on one coverage.  Whether we made shots from that point on was up to us.  But the trap stopped, the floor was spaced, and once the floor was spaced our scorers could score.

Q.  Can you talk about halftime, what was said, what wasn't said?

    DOC RIVERS:  Well, what was said was "hang in there," number one; number two, that all the plays were made by them, all the hard plays.  We had cut it to 11 once or 13 once, and every time we cut the lead, they made a play.  There was a loose ball that we didn't get, they saved.  It led to I think it was a Luke Walton three.  Farmar ends the quarter with a three, Fisher with four seconds left on the clock gets a three point play.  I just thought they were making plays and we were not.  It had nothing to do with Xs and Os to me at that point.  It had to do with when there was a scramble situation, they made all the plays and we didn't.
    I told them we were getting great shots and we were going to continue to get those and they would go in.  But we would not win the game unless we defended and we made plays.  And I thought in the second half we made the plays.

Q.  Can you talk about the magnitude of the Ray Allen bucket?
    DOC RIVERS:  Oh, it was huge.  It was huge.  Paul was exhausted, and you could see it.  I mean, he didn't even    on that play he didn't want to come to the ball.  It was really supposed to be a middle pick and roll with Kevin and Ray, and Ray waved Kevin off because he liked the match up that he had already, so he didn't want to bring another defender in to help.  It was a great call by Ray.  And then him getting to the basket was huge.  The lay up was just tremendous.

Q.  Can you talk about Paul's just commitment to defense, especially against Kobe in that third quarter?  It looked like he decided that guy wasn't going to score on him.
    DOC RIVERS:  Paul came to me at halftime and said, "I want to guard Kobe.  Let me guard him."  I'm foulless.  I can commit some fouls, be physical with him.  It would take him off the post, so we went with it and it was terrific.  I think people will look at his offense, but I thought we won the game because Paul was a tremendous defensive player tonight.

Q.  That's something he's talked about since the beginning of this year, focusing on becoming a better defensive player.
    DOC RIVERS:  It's easy for him to do it because he had some help.  Before I've asked him to score, rebound, score the assist, bring the ball up the floor and defend.  That's a little much.  Now because he has help, he can focus more on defense and he's done that.

Q.  Did Kendrick dislocate his shoulder again?
    DOC RIVERS:  Don't know.  We'll find out.  When I first saw it, I didn't like what I saw, but I don't know yet.

Q.  Can you just talk about the play of Eddie House after not having played that much?
    DOC RIVERS:  Yeah, it was terrific.  We would have gone with Eddie or Sam, honestly.  We just needed a guard that they had to stay with so they couldn't help.  With Rajon they've been allowed to put Kobe on him, and Kobe might be the best help defender I've seen since Pippen.  Putting a shooter on the floor forced Kobe to stay home, and that gave Kevin and Paul room.

Q.  I get the feeling that I still haven't seen the absolute best that this team could play.  Do you feel like that as a coach?
    DOC RIVERS:  Yeah, I told them that.  I mean, I was obviously happy with the win.  But we've played in quarters throughout this series.  We have yet to play four quarters in my opinion, and I'm sure they feel the same way.
    But I know we can play better.  There's no doubt about that.

    Q.  When this team was constructed, the concept in some respects was Kevin Garnett gets you to a certain point and now you have the finishers in Ray Allen and Paul Pierce, at least offensively.  Did that come into play tonight?
    DOC RIVERS:  Yeah, it did.  Kevin made a huge shot on the post.  That was big for us because we just had to give Paul a break.  He had gone basically carrying the load almost for 12 straight minutes, and I thought that was maybe the single biggest basket.  There was so many big ones.
    But that play allowed us to stretch it to five, I think, if my count is right.  So Kevin contributed, as well.
    The thing with Kevin, he's such a great passer, he's such a great threat that Paul is a great closer and so is Ray, but you can't leave Kevin.  When he's the only big on the floor and you have guards driving and the big is reluctant to leave.  Ray's lay up was an example of having Kevin Garnett on the floor.  You can't leave him, so it gave us a chance to get to the basket.

    Q.  We've seen teams come back from deficits like this before, but on the road against the Lakers, what does it say about your team that they didn't give up?
    DOC RIVERS:  Just great mental toughness.  They just hung in there together.  We've been preaching leaning in.  When things get bad, lean into each other, all year, and tonight we did it.

PAU GASOL

Q.    The play when Ray Allen got by Sasha Vujacic, Phil said he told you guys to stay with their shooters. 
Can you describe your thought process when Ray got to the basket?
    PAU GASOL:  Well, I thought that he was going to keep him in front of him, but obviously when you're guarding Ray Allen, you're concerned about his shot, shooting ability.  I was just    I saw the shot clock going down and kind of went to make sure I put a body on Garnett for the rebound, but I probably should have helped him out, react to that penetration.  I just wasn't expecting it, and make him kick it out to Garnett, make him make a jump shot from the corner.  But it happened pretty quick.

Q.  It seemed like you guys had great spacing in the first half, particularly in the first quarter.  What happened in the second half?
    PAU GASOL:  I guess we got away from the things that we were doing well in the first half.  We were playing with confidence.  We were playing, passing the ball really sharp, not turning the ball over and finishing up aggressive on the rim.
    Second half we just got away from it a little bit.  We started settling, and then they started making shots.  They started taking advantage of those long shots and those turnovers we had in the third quarter, and then it put a lot of pressure on us.  So we were really tentative at the end of the game with the ball in our hands.  It just didn't make things easy for ourselves.

Q.  Was there something specific the Celtics did defensively in that second half to stop the execution?
    PAU GASOL:  I'm not sure that it was them that kind of got us to go a different direction.  I don't think their game plan changed at halftime.  You know, we have been struggling on third quarters.  I think that every single game of this series in the third quarter we seem to give up a lot of points, which we were aware of it and we were concerned about it, and we wanted to make sure that we came out and we took advantage of the lead that we had going into the halftime.
    But we weren't able to do it, again.  Like I said, got away from the things we were doing well in the first half, and we weren't as aggressive, I don't think.  We just settled a little too much and turned the ball over.

PAUL PIERCE:

Q.    Can you talk about the defensive intensity starting in the third quarter, especially your own, D on Kobe, seemed like he was trying to take you one on one a lot and you were able to hold your own.

    PAUL PIERCE:  We said coming out of the third quarter that regardless of what the score is, we're not going to look at the score, we're just going to go out and play and compete.  I just thought they did a better job of competing, getting to all the loose balls, outrunning us, rebounds.  If we go out there for the next 24 minutes and compete and not worry about the score and play like our lives defended on it, we'll have a chance and we can be happy about our effort at the end of the day.  That's all I said.
    We just went out there and played as hard as we could, and we believed and we stuck together and was able to pull off this win.  Incredible.

Q.  Can you just talk about the importance of the third quarter?  That was obviously when the game changed.  And at what point in that third quarter did you guys start to believe we can win this thing?
    PAUL PIERCE:  Well, it wasn't about believing that we can win.  It was just, like I said, going out there and competing.  It was just going out there and putting out the effort, and then you're looking at the results.  Once we started cutting into it, we fed off the energy from our bench, fed our off defense, made the extra passes, was able to knock down shots.  We got aggressive and we stayed aggressive, and once we cut it I think it was under 10, once we got to that point with a lot of time left, we believed, hey, we can take this home.

Q.  Can you talk about being on the verge of something very special?
    PAUL PIERCE:  You know, I'm happy for the win, but the guys are excited.  But after that, Sam, Pose, you know, those guys have won championships.  They said, hey, the close  out game is the hardest game.  You thought this game was hard.  So hey, I don't want to get overjoyed, I want to go out there to try to win Game 5 on Father's Day and then I'll be able to breathe.  Right now I'm waiting to exhale.

Q.  Doc said at halftime you asked him to guard Kobe.  Why did you do that, and what did you do to contain him?
    PAUL PIERCE:  Well, I felt like I could be a little bit more physical on him.  I didn't think he would be able to post me as easy as he wanted to.  You know, I'm a little bit taller than Ray, so I can get a hand up, challenge him a little bit more.  The whole thing is it's hard to stop a player like Kobe Bryant.  He's the MVP, numerous scoring titles.  If he can go out there and make him work for everything he got, you give yourselves a chance, and that's all I wanted to do, just make him work.

Q.  You've been in situations like this coming back from huge deficits, but in this situation, in The Finals, on the road, against the Lakers, can you talk about what it means for you to overcome a team in this situation?
    PAUL PIERCE:  You know, it's great right now, but I think when I get a chance this summer to sit back and look at it all, I'll be able to soak it in a little bit better than I am right now.  It's a great win, we're grateful to be up 3 1.  Like I said, when I look back at this season, when I look back at this series, when I look back at this game after I sit down, then I'll be able to soak it all in and really tell you how it feels.  Right now I'm just happy to be up 3 1 with a chance on Sunday to close it out.

Q.  But the idea that this team doesn't give up, can you talk about that, the resiliency of this team?

    PAUL PIERCE:  I already knew that.  I knew we weren't going to lay down.

Q.  How discouraging was it to go into the half with a shot from Jordan Farmar?

    PAUL PIERCE: That was something that could have easily delated it, to go to 18 after we worked so hard to cut it to 12, 13 points.  I knew this team would fight.  We've been through a lot of wars throughout the season and in the playoffs, and I knew regardless we were going to fight back and we weren't going to lay down.

Q.  A number of general managers have said this league is changing rapidly, small ball, athletic players.  There's a shift in things happening.  With the Finals, both teams have been using small line ups to go at each other at different times.  Do you think things are changing right before our eyes with the way things have turned out?
    PAUL PIERCE:  I don't know if it's small ball.  It just looks like the taller players are just becoming more well rounded.  You look at a guy like Kevin Garnett, he can dribble, shoot, pass.  A guy like Lamar Odom, these guys can play center and forward.  The guys are becoming more well rounded.  It may seem like they're going small, but Lamar Odom, he's their forward, but he's 6' 10" and he can drive the ball.  I think the players are becoming more versatile at the positions you wouldn't expect it.

Q.  You guys obviously expended a lot of energy coming back from such a big deficit tonight.  Yet two games before Game 4, are you happy to have that extra day or would you rather play after a day and keep the same schedule?
    PAUL PIERCE:  I think these next two days are great because I'm feeling kind of sore, kind of tweaked my knee tonight.  Rajon is hurting, Perk hurt his shoulder tonight, so I think these two days will be great for us to recuperate from our minor injuries and try to suck it up on Sunday and end this thing before things get worse.

Q.  When Eddie goes in and Pose goes in, they space the floor.  What does that do for you and help you out as a shooter?
    PAUL PIERCE:  That's our best offensive lineup.  When you have Eddie, he can extend the defense along with Posey.  That's what we tried to do.  That's what really sped up the game.  The disadvantage would be on the rebound, but the advantage would be our quickness, our ball handling and our shooting.  So we were able to spread the court, drive the lanes.
    As you saw, Ray got a wide open lay up late because the guys couldn't come off the shooter.  It makes it a lineup that's difficult to stop when you have that many shooters on the court and be able to penetrate and shoot the gaps and find them.

Q.  You've also been with Doc longer than anyone here.  What can you say about the way he's coached this series coming in as the less experienced coach?

    PAUL PIERCE:  He's done a great job.  I mean, he knows the game better than anybody I've played with on this level.  He's easy to get along with.  Even though we were down 20 some points, he kept his composure.  He said, "hey, let's not worry about that, let's go out and compete."  He didn't over scream, he didn't get nervous, he just said, "hey, let's go out there and win the game, you guys can win the game," especially late.
    We've got a lot in common.  We're both Libras.  Our birthday is on the same day, if y'all didn't know that.  He's been great for me.

Q.  Even though it was a tremendous comeback win for you and your teammates, can you talk about how even more special it is for you doing it at home against a team that you idolized when you were growing up?
    PAUL PIERCE:  You know, it's a dream if I can come out here and win on Sunday.  I don't even know what to think about.  I don't want to get over excited right now over one win.  It's definitely a great win, one that you're going to put up there in the library and break back out one day for your kids to watch.  But I want nothing more than that ring right now and I'm not going to get over excited.  Definitely these moments are great, and like I said, I'll be able to enjoy it even more once it's all over.






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Comments

Although I am a Spurs, I am so pissed at the lakers right now!... Lakers and the Mavs have been the embarassing of the WC.

9 straights years and the Lakers and the Mavs have embarassed the West!

Lakers more than the MAVS! 5 times there in 8 years and twice embarassing the West!

The Spurs grabbed every opportunity they got in the finals and won!

If the Mavs and the Lakers by any chance could meet in the finals, both teams would lose! LOL.. the winner would be the refs! because they would get tired of ref. those games in a way that no team would ever lead 'til the end because they're both accustumated to blowing leads!

Rick Friedman

I didn't know you are into psychedelics?

I didn't hear no bell.

exhelodrvr, Gasol wasn't doing anything on offense anyway, NOBODY wanted the ball. Everybody shares some blame for last night, including Phil. Radmanovic started the game off well, then when the Celtics were crowding the middle, daring the Lakers to take outside shots, Radmanovic was riding the pine. Phil couldn't put Walton in, everybody saw how Walton shotputted that one 3 that went in in the first half, Walton has completely crumpled under the pressure, might as well curl up in the fetal position behind the bench.

The Lakers didn't lose on one play but that Ray Allen drive past Sasha with NOBODY providing help behind him summed up the entire second half. Turiaf would have at least fouled him, Kwame would have slid over and put a body on him, Bynum would have threatened him and forced a bad shot or a pass but no... Gasol was the Center and he didn't "want" it. It was plain as day, Gasol froze, he didn't have the desire to protect the hoop, he was hoping somebody else would step in but there was nobody there. If Kwame is in the same situation as our backup Center next year, I guarantee you he will slide over and stand in front of Ray Allen, making that a more difficult shot.

The Kwamster may not give us much offense but our defense is swiss cheese without him or Bynum covering the guys who consistently blow past our guards. There is absolutely no way we win 3 in a row against Boston unless they have a run of injuries. We really are too soft and have too many guys who simply check out of games for extended periods of time. Look at Odom, good first half, check. Ok, now that I got everybody off my back I'm going to fade into the background...


Don't worry Laker brethren. As a child of the 80s, I was treated to 5 championships, 2 of them defeating the Celtics. We sent their franchise into a 23 year funk, and paid no attention to them until this year.

They won the first one in 84, we won the next 2 head to head. The newbie celtic fans don't know that this is far from over. It lasts year to year, and judging from rosters, we'll have the upper hand for quite sometime. Younger, hungrier players, more tradeable assets, the MVP, and the most dominant center the league will know for the next 10 years.

Celtics big three: Pose, House, Powe

...who knew??

wake me up if we make it to game 7

AK, Jon K


My Bad... BIG TIME !!!! I forgot how amazing Zappa was... omg back then, I really didnt fully grasp his style, it wasnt until adulthood that Zappa became a GENIUS to me. Props to AK for that gem.. Jon.. it makes me feel a little better posting about Great Guitarists when the ugly truth is.. I'm CRUSHED !!!! Depressed isnt a strong enough word right now.

I'll snap out of it, Laker Tom and I both knew OUR TIME will come when # 17 is in the middle next season, but that doesnt help my stomach right now. Hats Off to Boston. In my humble opinion, We dont deserve to be Champions THIS YEAR. Champions DONT/WONT allow 20 pt leads to evaporate. Champions go for the jugular when they have a team gasping for air. We're NOT quite there yet, like it or not Laker Nation. Hopefully, the bitter after taste of this experience will motivate and drive our Team to achieve a legacy only associated with the Bulls and Lakers.


I'm looking forward to a 75win season in 09. I get happy thinking about this team with a full training camp under their belt next season, but I'm throwing in the towel after last nights game. I dont even care if we come back and make it a 7 game series now. The way in which game 4 was lost, hurt me.. hell, who am I kidding? It CRUSHED ME!!! but I gotta keep it real and be honest here.. Champions DONT make those types of mistakes.


Have a GREAT Summer everyone!!!! Thanks to the Kam Bros, The Lakers and my Laker Family here. I had a FANTASTIC TIME.. pissing and moaning, laughing and arguing with EVERYONE. The time has come for me to "give back" to the Lady that allows me to completely ignore her during Laker and USC football games, so I'll be pretty much a Ghost until after labor day. If I could, I'd shout out a gazillion posters here that I've grown fond of over the last year but I'll keep it short and sweet, just read the first sentence in this paragraph and that sums it up.

Keep your Heads Up and the Lakers always in your hearts !!!!!


GO LAKERS !!!!!!!

"Phil Jackson needs to tell his players that all series long, Doc River and the Celtics are using fake injuries to change the momentum of the game--that is part of the Celtics strategy. As soon as Perkin FAKED his injury and went out of the game, the momentum changed to Celtic's favor." - Robyn

That's an amazing theory! Every NBA team should emulate this! Pull starters out of games until you take the lead!

Aren't you just a little embarassed that the Celtics made this comback without two of their 5 starters, and another one less than 100%? Perhaps that might be affecting your judgement?

If I was speaking to an intelligent person, I might note that Paul Pierce is one of the toughest players in bball (came back for an exhibition game 2 weeks after getting stabbed 11 times and getting a collapsed lung, came back within 30 minutes of breaking off two teeth, and played the day after a 7-hour emergency dental surgery), that the Lakers are playing off Rondo like he's hurt and he's still only had 7 pts and 2 ast since the injury despite getting 25 pts and 27 ast before it, or that Perkins has a history of seperated shoulders and didn't play a single minute after his injury. But I doubt you would care.

"Kobe walked off the floor with 3 seconds left hoping to show his team how disgusted he was with their performance..It's called a motivation tactic..

There was nothing Kobe could do anyway as they were down by 6. He did what he could do - attempt to motivate his players."

Wow...you're actually supporting a move as bushleague as walking off the court...shouldn't Kobe worry about being disgusted with his own 6-19 performance? Perhaps if he had hit half his shots in games 1 or 4, or set up good shots in the offense rather than forcing some of those misses he put up, the Lakers could be ahead in this series right now.

And remember when Moss took all that heat a couple years ago? It shouldn't matter whether the game is "over" or not. You play hard until the end. Besides, 6 points in 3 seconds has been done before, believe it or not (long pass to immediate 3, followed by 3 off a steal on the inbounds or a turnover from the inbounds - no time off clock if it doesn't hit anyone.)

Not that Kobe's never been a quitter before...

Greeting, my fellow depressed Lakersfielders!

This unexpectedly exciting season is now down to one game. A home game, on our court! The foe is depleted by injury, and fat with success. They would rather party on their own court - this is human nature, and will rob them of their edge in game 5. If we survive and force a game six, then they will face a caged animal, with all the pressure squarely on their shoulders.

The season was lost last night, but its corpse is still wiggling! Zombies are scary...and damned hard to put down for good! A bullet won't do the trick, nor an arrow, nor a stake through the heart...they're going to need a chainsaw and a blow-torch and a pound of C4!

Now, with all that being said, it is time for some painful confessions. PP is better than I believed. The enemy deserves some respect, because he rose to accept a challenge and performed courageously. I hate him for it, but my dislike does not change the fact. If the shoe was on the other foot, I would be beaming with pride, as I'm sure they must be doing "over there."

Secondly, win or lose, I am extremely proud of our YOUNG team. The LOB trophy typically goes to the most veteran team. At this high level of competition, basketball is a grown man's game. The mental toughness required to overcome adversity is born of experience and repetitions. Boston's four key players - PP, Allen, Kg, and Posey - are all between 30-33 years old. PJB, Cassell, and House are also >30. This is a veteran team, whose leaders have paid many dues to the League. The Lakers have a great nucleus of young players, a budding superstar, and solid contributors who are just now reaching their prime. No other team in the Association can be so optimistic about success going forward. This is not my "throwing in the towel this year" speech. It simply is. A FACT.

The Boston team was assembled to win right now. Their window will be open next year as well, but will probably start to show cracks soon after that. But in the meantime, the rivalry is renewed! We may meet them in the Finals next year as well - it depends whether or not THEY make it that far...

Who would have believed that we could have come this far with Pau Gasol as our starting center? He never played center for Memphis (remember Lorenzen Wright? and then Darko?) Pau is only 27 years old! He, too, is just now coming into his own. He has fought bravely for a guy playing out of positioin for the first time in his career, and, win or lose, this experience will benefit his development into a dominant FORWARD for years to come.

Okay, that's enough from me.
sincerely, bleeding (and crying) purple and gold, now and always...
karyanr

After a sleepless night of tossing and turning, replaying all the things that went right in Game 4, to the "what in the world happened?!" this loss still hurts. A lot.

It hurts my heart so much, but when I look back at how far the Lakers have come since last year, since those two first round exits, I'm still loving this year so much, yes, even this loss, because for two periods and a half, we saw the brilliance of the Lakers offense that has gotten them to the Finals, that has wowed us all through these past few months.

Getting Pau from Memphis was a gift, after Drew was injured, Pau's abilities with the triangle offense let us keeping watching these Lakers play till June, a promise Kobe kept when he got his first MVP award, and I just can't help being amazed and loving every minute of this year's Lakers team.

Just imagining next year, the beauty of Pau-Lamar-Drew killing the interior is just making me beam. The pain of last night's loss will ease over the summer, but I'll still have fantastic memories of the Laker's playoff and regular season run. No one can take that away from us, not the stupid green leprechauns and certainly not the crappy media coverage for the other side.

This Lakers team is for real. They are going to be here, contending every year for a very long time. So maybe this year wasn't meant to be, who cares? It's the road that's gotten them here, this team is still young, still inexperienced, still learning. Next year, the pain of losing in the finals will no doubt motivate the young players on the Lakers and they will be UNSTOPPABLE.

Always supporting the Lakers, never caving into the "let's jump off the bandwagon or trade that guy after every loss ,"

Peanut Butter Spread

Is it possible that with Andrew-Gasol-Odom next year, other teams will take a cue from the Celtics and pack the interior even more against the Lakers, taking away Kobe's driving and forcing them to rely on jump shots from their guards even more?

Just food for thought - maybe it'll work out great.

Let's go Lakers!!!!!!!!!!!!

Positive Energy only. One game at a a time. One half a time. One quarter at a time. One possession at a time. One second at a time. Go out there and play Lakers basketball. Ronny should be the leader of the team in this situation. Let the rest of the Lakers know that there are more difficult hurdles to overcome. Just Believe and Execute.

Peanut Butter Spread,

You gotta right Laker breathren....I am very excited about the next 7 years...I honestly think they need an insurance player like Ron Artest, Shawn Marion, Josh Smith or even Gilbert Arenas....if they can pull it off...but.....really....I am not about to throw in the towel because I am still enjoying the season that nobody thought was going to happen after last season

secondly ...the players I mentioned maybe a long shot but mitch is looking at it...i am sure he would want to bolster it up.....

lastly, Game 5 window is still there.....

Peanut butter spread, karyanr, complexbrotha, rick friedman....keep it alive to till the very end of the finals....and thanks for still keeping the future real.....

All of this Lakers fans..... GIVE ME A BREAK because this is just like the 2004 series because once again Kobe throws his teammates under the bus he didnt mention any names but the comment that he said about"WET BED" just says it all to me.......I mean who lives the game with a few sec left on the clock........so much for team support......Them Lakers are a young unexperienced team despite of Kobe......Boston is the BEST team all the floor.......DEFENSE always win championships not OFFENSE so STOP WITH ALL THE HATIN HATERS.... GO BOSTON

A few more thoughts...

First, the term "Laker Fan" is an oxymoron. No LA, that's not a type of farm animal. Lakers fans ONLY show up when their team wins (and late at that), and are more in love with glitz than substance. It's the only rational explanation as to why Faker Fans think so highly of Kobe "Bedwetter" Bryant.

Second, Kobe walked off the floor because he's the ultimate spoiled pro athlete. Selfish to the core, the antithesis of KG. He couldn't even get along with the best liked player in the NBA, one Shaq O. I can't believe you (classic) would rationalize his behavior. You are a classic alright, a classic moron. I think your Kobe thong is on too tight and you're not getting enough oxygen to the brain.

Last, Celtics fans don't see this as a rivalry. Over the years we've owned you, and will continue to do so. When the LA Fakers get to 10 championships (sorry, the Minneapolis ones DON'T count), let us know.

In the meantime continue to stew and spew. It's fun to see Faker Nation flop like a freshly caught fish on a boat, writhing in pain as the end slowly, and painfully sets in.

J-dawg,
"Is it possible that with Andrew-Gasol-Odom next year, other teams will take a cue from the Celtics and pack the interior even more against the Lakers"

Yes. Neither Odom and Bynum has much range on their game yet.

Ahhh.... Boston is on a roll.... Celtics Red Sox Patriots BU Revolution you name it. Nice to see the Lakers again, I hae great memories going back to the 60's.

Hope that we see a couple of these series. Not having Boston or LA in the finals is just WRONG. When it is both the world is just right. Maybe he Celts can get a real point guard in the off-season (call up McHale maybe he'll set us up LOL).

While I'm not a Lakers fan there are some Lakers players (Magic esp) whom I like a lot. Not a Kobe fan (too much whining).

KB
JAY JAY

Didn't say the phony fake foul cost us the game,
just wanted to point out what a true cheat does. I guess if you can't play on the up and up, you cheat. The phony fake foul was acted out in a critical part of the game.
If you can't beat your man on the square PP can always rely on his signature move and a friendly whistle.

About the San Antonio non-call, that was just it. The ref failed to call a foul. There was no deception involved.

BOSTON CELTICS
HIGH-TECH CHEATS AND CHEAP SHOT ARTISTS
GOING OUT WITH CLASS MY ARSE

NOT WITH BONEHEADS LIKE YOU

To top things off, I have to watch another choke job by Phil while watching the US Open.

Lakers in 7

THE CELTICS ARE HIGH-TECH CHEATS AND CHEAPSHOT ARTISTS.

YOU MUST HATE THE CELTICS IN ORDER TO WIN.
GOING DOWN WITH CLASS MY ARSE

Paul Pierce is a Class Act-you cry-baby Faker fans only
can dream about having him on your team. He is a winner.

The Boston Celtics are winners.

The #1 seed in all of the NBA.

Detroit and Cleveland are far, far better teams than
your Fakers. They come in as the 2nd. and 3rd. best
teams.

You arse's have nothing better to do than to curse
Boston, because you are jealous.

We have the best sports teams in the world in Boston.

We also have class, while, you are all low-class.
What disgusting people you are in L.A. Bitch, bitch,
bitch, that's all you know how to do.

I'm glad you all can't afford the ticket prices. No-one wants such foul-mouthing, uneducated, scumbags
like you at the games, anyway.

The player's wouldn't want anything to do with anyone
of you idiots. Don't you realize, they don't care, or
even know you exist? Your not relevant to them.
You are all redundant. Your blog buddies here
threaten to cut their wrists, drink
drano, jump off a cliff, etc.

What a bunch of illiterate losers, put you striaght
jackets on, as I wouldn't want you all to kill yourselves
over a basketball game, when the Celtics win the
championship.

You L.A. Laker fans are such horrible role models for
America. I think the fumes from your FOG city
have damaged your brains.

Do you idiots think AK/BK respect anything you jerks
have to say?. They are in this to make as much money
as possible, and I believe they know they are dealing
with people, who have the lowest I.Q.'s in the country.
The above is my opinion.

So, I suggest you all take the next left turn you see,
which is the entrance into hell.

Quick, get Phil Jackson on the line, I've got a foolproof plan! For Game 5 rest the starters, play only the second team. If the scrubs win, it proves the NBA is manipulating the refs to extend the series. If they lose, it saves jet fuel back to Boston AND screws the league out of their precious Game 6 & 7 revenue! That's win-win any way you look at it! Stern actually has the nerve to say that the referees should not be an independent organization! As much as I hate it, the fix is in, people! The headline after Game 2 should have read "Celtics 38, Lakers 10". THAT'S why Kobe walked off early after Game 4. He's frustrated at being a pawn. As a fan, why should I devote my time to a sport that is about as honest as Pro Wrestling? Up Yours, Stern!

The foul on the Bedwetter a "fake" foul??? What game were you watching?

PP goes left. Bedwetter moves right and impedes PP's forward progress. That's called a block. You should know this becuase you are a blockhead.

You guys are the BIGGEST crybabys on the planet. At least the Detroit fans lost with class, acknowledging what every LA homer announcer (Plashke, Simer, Ireland, et al) has already ackowledged, that the Fakers were an illusion. How ironic, because that's what ALL of LA is, an illusion.

There's no conscience on both extremes, both have filthy messages. We need more mature sports fans who can looked this competiton in the most objective manner. Too much fandom or I refer it as "irresponsible pandemonium" is just childish and sickening.

"the most dominant center the league will know for the next 10 years."

ROTFL!! Bynum???? He doesn't even know what foot to take off on when he goes in for a layup??? Perkins O-W-N-E-D him earlier in the year!!! Yes, Kendirck Perkins!!!!

If Bynum were playing the Fakers would have been over the limit in the first 5 minutes of the first three quarters of every game so far and this series would be done by now.

If he's your future you'd better pray that Kareem makes a comeback, soon. Bynum!? Huge LOL!!!

hey.. i thought this is a lakers blog, why am i seeing lot of celtics posts. celtics fans don't have a blog of their own? or they just don't have a life. maybe they're lakers fan by heart/subconciously. undeniable lakers fans.. hahahahahaaa

CELTICS SUX FOREVER. L.A. RULES.

RUMORS PEOPLE...!!!!!!!!!

I JUST HEARD THAT THE NBA LEAD OFFICE WILL LET THE LAKERS WIN THE SERIES.. THEY'RE GONNA RIGGED THE NEXT 3 GAMES. CUZ LAKERS IS BETTER AGAINST THEMSELVES... SO LAS VEGAS TOLD THEM TO OFFICIATE TO FAVOR THE LAKERS.

OK Spook, here' a Basketball IQ test for you that will put to rest your whining (the Zen-Master-Not & LA's favorite pastime) about the officiating.

How many fouls were called on the Lakers in Game 2, the game YOU say was rigged by the league and zebras? How many fouls were called on the Celtics in game 2?

Hmmm, let's go to the box score. Lakers 28 fouls, Celtics 21 fouls. Now let's look at the shot chart. While the C's took > 50% of their shots from inside roughly 15 feet, the Lakers took roughly 60% of their shots outside 15 feet.

Now, let's go a step further. How many calls against each team last night in game 4? Lakers =23 fouls. C's = 24 fouls. Based on your theory the Fakers should have won game 4!!??

Now do you get it? Probably not. Let me make it perfectly clear for you so your 3rd grade arrested development brain can get it. It's not the official's fault that the Fakers aren't worthy opponents.

Your team has no guts (ie, nice D by Sasha "Tantrum Toddler" V on Ray last night); no heart (ie, the Bedwetter walking off on his teammates); and no clue (ahhh, Lamaaaar, it's the second half, we NEEED you!!!!).

BTW if your IQ ever gets to double digits (doubtful), you should sell.

"i thought this is a lakers blog"

You thought wronng smoghead. And it's way too much fun trolling this board and torturing your already tortured souls.

In fact I'm not sure what I enjoy more, the C's picking up yet another championship, or the Lakers losing YET AGAIN in the finals?

The good news is I don't have to chose. I get to have BOTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

OH, NO!

NOW THEY'RE SAYING ONLY VOODOO CAN SAVE THE POOR, POOR LAKERS!

IS THERE NO GOD?

SOMEBODY DO SOMETHING!

Charles,

To answer your question, Kobe isn't just disliked, he is hated. He complains about foul calls more than Tim Duncan. He's a phenominal basketball talent but a disgusting human being. All I see is arrogance. If that's improved leadership then that's sad.
But hey, like I said in a previous post...when the Lakers lose this series maybe Kobe will buy each of his teammates a 4 million dollar ring to make up for "choking" this series.

Listen up, Anonymous-poster-who-questions-my-IQ. The main thrust of my previous post did not actually concern a specific game or a specific team, or even a specific coach (where did that come from?). It concerned the honesty of the sport as the NBA currently exists. The subtext (look it up) is that those chosen to officiate the game SHOULD NOT be beholden to those that own it. That's standard Sarbanes-Oxley accounting practice. Until that happens we will be subjected to an aged, jaded referee corps trying to call a very fast game, with no apparent peer-review or accountability. I don't care which team you root for, as long as the game is certifiably and indisputably honest. If it was that way now, we would not be having this exchange, correct?

 


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