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I'm not going to look it up, but this might be the first time media availability for the NBA Finals has ever taken place on WNBA hardwood.  But with the Sparks ready to crank it up tonight against the (hold on while I look this up...) Detroit Shock, the Lakers floor had been replaced with the confetti sprinkled sidelines of the LLC.  Good for her, by the way, for having her own court.  Not even Magic has that.  Anyway, there were a few basic themes repeated by players from both teams over the course of the confab.

  1. Both teams felt they could have played much better, making it hard to take away too many lessons from the evening.
  2. Both teams suffered from a lack of production from members of their respective Big Threes. 
  3. Both teams know the series is far from over.  The Lakers weren't overly proud of themselves, while the Celtics weren't exactly the picture of panic.  Each team had reason to believe better things were ahead.
  4. The Lakers were more aggressive and ramped up their intensity.
  5. Fatigue might have been an issue for the Celtics, and contributed to the raggedy play overall.  PJ said last night he believed KG ran out of juice, Pierce admitted he might have burned through energy faster than normal, given all the hype surrounding playing in front of his home town fans, and a cross-country flight without an extra off day hurt, too.  Doc Rivers burned more TOs than normal, to try and combat fatigue.  Thursday should be a sharper effort all around.

Having had a chance to reflect, Walden Pond style, on Tuesday's L.A. win, I'm starting to find more encouraging signs for the Lakers.  On my List of Important Things for the purple and gold to figure out heading into Game 3, I'd have said (more with the lists?) 1) Find a way to get Kobe going.  2) Shore up the defense.  3) Get Lamar Odom going.  Well, as that great poet Meatloaf once said, two out of three ain't bad.  Kobe had 19 points and 12 free throws by the end of the first half.  The Lakers held the Celtics to 35% from the floor, limited Paul Pierce to six points, and clamped down on KG to the tune of 6-21 from the floor.  That's pretty good. 

Some of LA's defensive adjustments made a difference.  Kobe's time on Rajon Rondo helped limit the water bug's ability to roam free in the lane, and PJ was pleased with the work he did on Pierce down the stretch.  Pau Gasol was able to keep KG off the post (or Doc wasn't able to get him there), Ronny Turiaf was effective against him as well.  As a team, the Lakers were able to play a cohesive defensive game.   It was on that end that the Lakers made their greatest improvement.  Granted, it'll be tough to hold Pierce to another 2-14 night, but if the Lakers can continue to do what they did Tuesday night for the rest of the series, they'll find some success.

The third issue, Odom, remains a problem.  For his part, LO is clearly frustrated but isn't going to give up.  "You have to persevere.  Right now it's about the L.A. Lakers, not about Lamar Odom.  If I could just stay on the court to help the team, whether it's rebounding or making plays.  I just have to stay on the court," he said.  "I wouldn't call them careless (fouls).  I think I'm just trying to protect the rim as much as possible, if there's penetration, stepping up, trying to wall up, but getting called for the foul.  So maybe I need to get more aggressive and try to make a play on the ball, instead of just trying to wall up."

"You just keep playing basketball.  Once you give enough hustle, things go your way."

Odom felt he was still able to be aggressive when he was on the floor, going at the hole late, but having trouble finishing.  No question, though, his inability to avoid personals has hurt him in the series.  (And as an aside, I think LO's biggest problem isn't the foul calls contesting shots, but on loose balls and charges. He's drawn too many whistles being on the wrong end of contested layups.  Discretion is often the better part of valor, and LO needs to find that balance, and make sure all his fouls count.)  Finding some rhythm would help.
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"It's tough when you're in foul trouble, or you can't get those regular minutes where you can get yourself in a groove," Luke Walton said.  "Lamar is definitely a rhythm player.  There's some guys who can step on a court and make jumpers all day.  Lamar has to get in the flow of the game and get going.  He wasn't able to do it, a lot of it having to do with the foul trouble he was in all game." 

Said assistant coach Jim Cleamons, "He hasn't had a lot of success, but at the same point of time, we ask Lamar to do a lot of different things.  Lamar's kind of our jack of all trades.   He hasn't quite found the rhythm to do what we need him to do to lessen the burden of both Pau and Kobe.   Last night Pau didn't have a good game, but the good thing about it was they both kept playing and got rebounds for us... We're asking LO to come off of Perkins- and Perkins is a moose in there- all these things we're asking them to do, and adjustments, the best thing you can do as a basketball player is just react.  So we're asking them maybe to do too much thinking and not enough reacting.  But I don't think our assignments will differ, we'll just ask (Odom) to continue to do it better, and hopefully (Odom and Gasol) will feel more comfortable with what we're asking them to do.
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Other news and notes:

  • Rajon Rondo said he's sore, but should be able to play despite a bum ankle.  "It hurts a lot, but it's not too painful.  I have 24 hours and hopefully with the treatment I'm getting, I'll be fine."  Nothing a little extra tape can't fix, he hopes.  Right now, he put himself at about 70%, for whatever that's worth.

Okay, maybe I should have left it at "note." 

Anyway, more interviews and whatnot to come later. 

BK

 
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It's nice that both teams believe they can take positive things away from game 3.

But, if I were Phil Jackson, my message to our players would be this:

Were there things we could have done better in game 3? Sure. Does that mean we should be happy with the fact that we won despite having a poor game? No. Feeling good about yourself is not what we need right now. We need to be bloodthirsty, aggressive, and unapologetic. Boston feels good about the way they lost in that game. Well, let them. Let them feel good all they way back home when we take this series in six. This is no time for moral victories. If you win by 1 or by 30, it makes no difference. If you lose by 1 or by 30, it makes no difference. It's first to 4, and Larry O'Brien doesn't give a crap about how you feel about it.

Can someone PLEASE get kobee a Steve GNASH "How To Improve Your Guard Skills" DVD? The kid needs to learn how to shoot FT's, no matter how good Boston's FT defense is!

If I have to see Ga-Shawl shy away from the paint any more, I'd think he was Dirk Nowitzki! kobee might wish to have SHACK back, but SHACK is now with the SUNS where He has a better guard to work with.

The Celts are reportedly mad as hornets that they played so poorly and yet only lost by a few, so close to a victory. The next game means LA goes down 1-3!

Paul Pierce, we in Laker Nation want to see you play your best tomorrow night!


How cool is it that Marc Gasol was at practice, helping Pau out? Good practice for Pau against Garnett.

Lamar is the complete package, he will bounce back.. at least we need him to in order to win.

Morning all....Welcome to Lakers drive through sir.
May i take your order?
Ummmmmm. Yes ....Could i please have a Power forward and center that can finish layups and put backs and not get brain cramp..?
Ummmm....A small forward that can play a complete game.?
Ummmm...A back up forward/center named Ronny who can get at least 1 rebound a game..Just 1 rebound a game.?
Would you like that up sized today sir.?

Yes Please.........

Go Lakers

Kobe's just got to keep being aggressive scoring Kobe until the Celtics decide to make major adjustments.

Only then will things open up for Pau and Lamar.

And it's entirely possible (although improbable) the Celtics won't make any major adjustments, in which case Kobe will just take it to them for the next three games and win the series.

16...15...14...13...12...11...10...9...8...7...6...5...4...

What's the WNBA?

Is Donaghy's assertion that they fixed the 2002 WCF so that the Lakers would win the series or that they just were ensuring it would go 7 games?

The signs point to the Lakers becoming better. It does seem that LO and Pau will figure out what they are being asked to do at game pace eventually as Cleamons said. It's one thing to get instructions from the coaches, then try to implement them in the flow of a high pressure game. It may take a couple of games.

I think the Lakers do need to try to play more offensive possessions at a faster tempo to get LO and Pau, especially LO, into an offensive rhythmn. When the tempo slows down, Boston's size down low becomes an advantage for the Celtics. When the tempo is quicker, Odom and Gasol's quickness and running ability with and without the ball become advantages for the Lakers.

The problem with playing at a faster pace through transition offense and early offense before the defense sets up is a possibility of more turnovers. And turnovers then hurt the Lakers on defense bec. it allows Celts to play a transition game too. However, I would take my chances that the Lakers' transition game is better than Boston's.

TO OUR LAKERS TEAM,

NO MATTER HOW YOU DO IT!!! DO NOT!!! I MEAN DO NOT!!! LET THESE BUNCH OF GREENIE WEENIES CELEBRATE ON YOUR HOME FLOOR!!!

ONE WIN DOES NOT MEAN ANYTHING, IT ONLY GUARANTEES A GAME FIVE, AND THAT'S ALL!!!

KEEP PUSHING!!! WE ALL BELIEVE!!! WE CAN DO THIS!!!

NOW, LETS BRING THE REAL FANS FOR GAME 4 AND ROCK THE HOUSE!!!

GO LAKERS!!!

Never in a million years did I think I'd say this .... but I'd like to see Sasha and Vlad on the floor together, with Pau, Kobe and Fish.

Spread the floor with three shooters, make KG commit to either helping on Kobe in the lane or covering Vlad at the 3pt line. KG could make Vlad pay at the other end, but, in the end, he'll settle for jumpshots like he always does. Rebounding could be a problem, but we're not exactly killing there anyway...

BK,
"Okay, maybe I should have left it at "note." "

And "new"

This is interesting:
'It hurts a lot, but it's not too painful".


The NBA should showcase DJ Mbenga for game 4 as featured player in half-time. Definitely will generate a lot of good story lines, then DJ will score 40 pts and 20 rebounds after the game. DJ will definitely crash the board and fans will go crazy! Once again a marketing genius for the NBA!

I imagine PJ used today to solidify the defensive adjustments they tried to make for game 3 but coudn't fully b/c of the travel day. I hope he also threw some new wrinkles offensively to try and counteract Boston's defense and start to help players (besides Kobe) find success against it.

When Kobe faces the same defense game after game, he's going to have it figured out by game 4 or 5. Other players need to rely on guidance from the coaches and the play calling within the triangle to help them find their way.

Speaking of Rondo - How about when he tried to do that fake behind-the-back pass one too many times last night and fell on his face?

Why not start Ronny instead of Vlad. Put him on Perkins and LO on Pierce? Ronny can bang with Perkins and maybe help on interior D. LO can give Pierce problems with his length. He'll just have to be careful with reaching in. Plus, Ronny's activity at the outset could help set the pace.

More PT for Farmar too. Him not backing down on PJ says a lot. His and Sasha's confidence is sorely needed.

Just play. Best is yet to come. Take all this stuff with a grain of salt when the sportwriters though it would be a cakewalk for the Lakers pre-Finals and they now say the Lakers are doomed when we are only 3 games into it. No one knows until the final buzzer sounds.

Best is yet to come.

Boston.com is censoring Laker fans. Any post by a Laker fan is now DELETED!

Join me in both protesting this to Boston.com and, if they do not reverse their position, in demanding then that the Laker Blog block all Celtic fans from posting and delete all of their posts!

Sung to the tune from "Tainted Love" by Soft Cell

Tainted League

Sometimes I feel I've got to
Fix a game
The league needs
Seven games
For the cash you drive into the heart of me

The rev we share
Seems to go nowhere
And I've lost what’s right
We’ll screw the Kings, then I’ll sleep tight

Once I ran with you
Now I'll scam for you

This tainted league you've driven
I make the calls lackeys will give you
Pay air fare, now that's not living - oh
Tainted league – ohh oh tainted league

Now I know I've got to
Sing away
I've got so
Much to say
You don't really want any more from me
To make things right
You need someone to do oversight!

And you'll think ball is to play but I'm sorry the NBA don't play that way

Once I ran with you
Then I scammed for you

This tainted league you've driven
I give you calls lackeys can give you
Pay air fare, now that's not living - oh
Tainted league – ohh oh tainted league

Don't touch Kobe please
I"ll call a flagrant if you sneeze

Tainted league – ohh oh tainted league

I love you though you hurt me so
Now I got no whistle to blow

Tainted league, tainted league

Last post: As performed by Tim Donaghy

A win is a win and I'm happy for it. First in five tries this season. But I didn't see a lot in game 3 that gives me a ton of confidence going forward.

Yep, the Lakers gutted this one out, despite LO still being MIA, despite Pau getting bounce around in the post by anyone wearing green, despite DFish having an off night. Kobe and Sasha scored enough. Kobe, Sasha, Farmar and Turiaf defended enough.

What concerns me is that both Garnet and Pierce, while defended better than they had been in games 1-2, simply missed a ton of open looks. I don't know how much the Laker defense really mattered to them. And still it was much closer than it should have been. (Lakers should have won by 20+ with both Garnet and Pierce having off nights.)

Not sure what's up with Lamar. He simply looks like he has no legs under him. Always off balance and hurried - not the smoothly athletic, quick and long player he usually is. Pau is simply getting beaten up.

If the front line doesn't show up by game 4, the series could end in LA. On the other hand, there's a lot to be said for gutting it out.

Laker_Unstoppable - I suspect the only reason why a website would do that is b/c people are trolling. I can't think of one reason why I'd want to go there. I hate trolls, regardless of what team they're fans of.

PeanutButterSpread,

"How cool is it that Marc Gasol was at practice, helping Pau out? Good practice for Pau against Garnett."

Where did you get that info?

Regards,

"Boston.com is censoring Laker fans. Any post by a Laker fan is now DELETED!"

They scrrred. Just like BUTT-LER.

Brother Charles,

YOU asked:

What's the WNBA?

AND I say this is the league that Butler and Engineero are used to watching and get their insight from, it stands for Womens National Basketball Association. How cute is that?

President Obama

I don't care about Boston.com.

They're nothing.

We're open to anyone here, the supporters, and the dissenters. Let them all come and be fair with their words.

I still say the Lakers will win this series.

The way I look at it, the Lakers need to win 3 games, with 2 of those games at home. Which means, the Lakers have home court advantage. Am I right?

Also, the Lakers still haven't played a complete game. I'm thinking we'll finally get our front line playing well. Kobe is back in form, and Pau did play game 2 pretty good. Lamar can't play any worse. I predict a blowout tomorrow night.

Lakers should win this thing 4-2. I really believe that now.

why even bother?

We got the best blog in the league (haha) here, pretty much lol.

GO Lakers!

This whole scandal thing really sucks. The NBA and the Lakers are by far and away my favorite league and team. This whole thing just kind of leaves a bad feeling in my stomach. While I'm pretty positive some aspects of past games are "fixed"" I don't think its totally true.

I mean, if it were in such need of more games how come the Lakers finals during the 3 peat where all 5 games or under? and why was the Finals last year a sweep? There are a lot of things that make me believe things are fixed however there is more that just doen't amount to it being fixed. Whatever the outcome is I will still root for my beloved Lakers. I just hope that the better team wins this series with out any help from the powers that be.

On to basketball. I'm positive that LO will bounce back tomorrow. I think instead of him coming out with aggression (he will have it, just not be solely focusing on it) he will be focusing on not picking up cheap fouls. He will make a point to play smart and assertive and he will do so. He may not have 30 points but I'm expecting heavy minutes with a stat line or 20-12-4. Hopefully he can get it done.

And I'm still pumped on Farmar. He has been one of my favorite Lakers all year long and I'm glad he is having a pretty good series. I also thought it was awesome that he didn't even think about backing down from PJ Brown. Hope he keeps up the intensity and the good play.

GO LAKERS

Am I the only one tiring of seeing Bill Simmons articles on espn's main page after every game

I sure am glad that buttler writes Kobe's and Nash's names the way he does. What I do is look at the post and if I notice the names misspelled, I simply scroll right past it.
I would hate to get half way through the post and realize that the post belong to this fool.

Actually you have it backwards, Laker fans are boycotting Boston.com because it is the internet equivalent of the Arizona Republic -- only used to line bird cages and wrap fish.

In a related and inspiring story of heroism, Rondo says he WILL play in game 4 -- wow, I don't know if Kobe knows, but break the news gently to avoid over-excitement.

It's been a while boys and girls. My confidence in the NBA and in the winner of this Finals being the legitimate champion is beyond shaken. The disparity in free throws for home and away teams is beyond ignoring. I've been a champion of the players winning these games, but the more I read and the less the NBA does to affect my concerns, the more I feel like this whole thing has been a sham under David Stern. I will root on my Lakers, even though I'm officially disillusioned by all of what's happened in the last 24 hours. I don't think this is the Lakers' year however, an have been saying that for a while. Next year will the time for the Lakers to truly shine, but it might not matter.

Lakers in 6!

Jon K

You mentioned Sasha monikers

You forgot the best one the last time we had this discussion. Back when Sasha for the first time put the Lakers on his back and carried them on to victory.

He was no longer practice Sasha, but became............

The Sashanator

http://tinyurl.com/4pb6br

**Sorry for the chezzie promo of another site K's. It came with the picture

Pig,

It's hard to think it matters to keep faith in our team when the league is close to being exposed as a sham, no?

But it does. Go Lakers!

People need to stop talking about the referee conspiracy!!! Don't you see? That is just going to make the NBA hide it and make the Celtics WIN instead of the Lakers... If the NBA was fixing the series, they would want the Lakers to WIN.

Now with all this talk, the NBA is going to want Boston to win to make everyone shut up.

Seems very odd that everyone is hopeful to see LO and P.G. ready to step up these next two games. It just plain and simply may never happen. Celtics big three, are truely a big three. We need to move the ball around like we always do and not settle for those 3's. Penetrate and we work it around if necessary. To many times I saw lakers settle for jump shots with over 12 seconds on the shot clock. Settle in and let the ball rotate. When the ball rotates, the rebounds come...if the rebounds come the 2nd shot chances start. When that happens, it's easier to defend on defense because your big men can now get back after a bucket. GO LAKERS... and don't stop moving the ball

We're starting to see the value of coaching experience (praise GOD!)

Phil and his rebel forces have finally downloaded the plans to the Celtics' death-star - and there it is, that vulnerable little central reactor exhaust port...

Celtics' defense begins with transition. The Lakers are quicker endline-to-endline, so the Celtics must simplify their assignments to match-up: guard the man that is guarding you. Kobe on Gollum (oops, Rondo) means Rondo on Kobe. This is a win-win for the Lakers: a clear, game-changing advantage at both ends of the floor. Rondo is a pint-sized version of Jason Kidd - flaky jumpshot, but otherwise, the engine that makes them go. He is their best perimeter help-defender, but if he has to mark THE MAN, that part of his game is neutralized. On offense, they need him to run their sets: notice that Pierce's action comes on pin-down curls that result in wing isolation. He NEEDS someone to get him the ball on time, so that his limited arsenal is effective. Did anyone else see how Sasha disrupted Pierce's moves in the 1st half? A direct result of Kobe shading away from Rondo and forcing the pin about three feet further out from the lane...and less room to drive. Sasha crowded the shot while "opening up" his stance to discourage the baseline drive, and that was that. PP ends up with off balanced misses, TO's (thanks to roaming center-fielder) and most importantly, INDECISION!!

In a nutshell, Phil made an adjustment, and the Celt's scored 81 points. Doc Rivers now stands on the slippery banks of a fast running river - no pun intended. What does he do? What CAN he do? Cassell is a basketball roach motel - it checks in, but it don't check out. House is a micro-Ray Allen, but entirely one dimensional, and does not scare any Laker ballhandler with his defensive ability (I Can't believe I said 'defensive ability' and Eddie House in the same sentence! Finals make people crazy!)

If this were chess, even though Doc captured the first two major pieces (with a little help from his 3 friends), Phil has spotted a weakness, made a move, and I believe I heard him say "Check."

But not "Checkmate." Not yet. He did leave Doc an out, righ? House can shoot. You can't leave House and roam around on D. House helps space the floor. Do it, Doc! Take the ehffing bait, already! Doc, a decent coach, over his head against Phil-Jackson-Bobby-Fischer, takes the bait: Rondo's minutes go down (ah, how convenient, the sprained ankle, "forcing" him to adjust, giving him a face-saving excuse when the dust finally settles...)

And House's minutes go up.

"CHECKMATE!" I think I just heard...or as Cypress Hill would say, "Checkmate, FOOL!"

Phil springs the trap: Kobe-Sasha-Ariza together with two bigs. Three quick guys, each of them a head taller, all with long arms, all just as quick. Can play off and still bother the shot. Can exchange on any off-ball action. Can trap the little bugger, make him give it up, and force the C's to get into their sets with no point guard on the floor. And a big time mismatch at the other end, no matter how you slice it. Chasing Sasha around picks won't be good for poor Eddie, and he doesn't have the length to challenge the shot. He can't guard Kobe (Ha, ha!) Put him on Ariza, and Ariza will move to the mid-post in the triangle, where he can elevate to catch, and make some easy decisions as the C's will have to double from the top of the key. Garnett will have to play 'full square' behind Gasol on the weakside, just so that he can recover to discourage lobs to the rim against defenseless Eddie. So whatever picks Gasol sets will be 100% effective without the hedge. Wide open shots. Break their defense, and break their hearts...

Checkmate, fool...we got game four...and five...for sure.

Is it baseball season or something? I see Schilling is making a jack ass out of himself again -- hey Schilling take you fake bloody sock and stuff it where the sun don't shine -- K tough guy.

One of the most difficult things to watch about Phil Jackson's teams is that he makes strategic decisions on defense about where he would prefer the other team's scoring to come from. This can make it look like a particular player or two on the other team is torching the Lakers, and we wonder why the Lakers let it keep happening.

For instance, Phil obviously chose Rondo and Allen as the preferred scorers, so the Lakers concentrated on shutting down the interior and the slasher (Pierce). Then when Rondo drops in a couple of wide open jumpers, or Allen sinks a bunch of threes, I get really nervous because it appears as if the Lakers can't stop those plays.

The genius of the strategy, however, is that it makes the Celtics comfortable with relying on those plays for scoring, and they must then live or die with how far that can take them. I think this is exactly what happened to the C's in game 3.

It's hard to watch also because it can mean that Phil is not trying to engineer a blowout, but rather is trying to keep the Celtics close enough to believe that if they just work their present strategy a little harder, they can catch and beat the Lakers. Meanwhile, he knows that Allen and Rondo are not truly clutch end-of-game closers, and the real closers have been taken out of their game because they're not in a good rhythym due to lack of running the offense through Pierce and Garnett.

I may be simply putting my own way of thinking on Phil's game plan, but if that's what he's doing, I think it's genius.

RMA

Brian K.,

Nice write up. Again.

GO LAKERS!

Fatty,

How could I have forgotten "The Sashanator?" How? How?

The Machine Knows No Pity. Fear the Machine.

GO LAKERS!

It's not the WNBA, it's the WWFNBA. Where whatever you want to happen, happens. At least for the Fakers fans.

I like the WNBA! Those women are HOT! I wouldn't dare say anything bad about them, at least not until corruption enters it like it has the WWFNBA.

I haven't posted much lately, still peruse the threads though. Of course, I'm following every game rabidly, like I do all season, always pulling for the Lakers.

I've spent a fair amount of time on the east coast over the past couple of years, mainly on the Cape but also venturing into Boston. Say what you will about Bostonians but they love their teams... hardcore fans. I spoke to some locals today about last night's game... nobody was down on Pierce or Garnett. As far as people around here are concerned, every member of the team totally rocks (or, they're effin' wicked).

Also, nobody seems to think that there's anybody on our team except Kobe. That's what they'll say - "aw, all you guys got is Kobe". I'll bring up Odom, Pau, whoever else, and just get blank stares. They're all totally convinced that we have a bunch of nameless, faceless, second-stringers that ultimately don't stand a chance in this series. That's Boston for you - the Celts sucked for years but now they're back and their fans are ready to level everyone in their path. Not a bad way to think as far as I'm concerned.

Every summer, I pore over any tidbit that I can find about the Lakers, whether I'm living in L.A. (where I did for so many years) or elsewhere in the country. Last summer, I didn't believe that Kobe would be traded and said so. I mentioned in a post, around training camp time, that I go into every season fully believing that we'll get another ring. I'm behind all the players, each year... doesn't matter if it's Magic, Kareem, Worthy, Coop, Rambis, A.C. Green, Vlade Divas, Shaq, Fox, Shaw, Kobe, Mike Penberthy, J.R. Rider, Fish, Slava, Rice, Greg Foster, heck I don't care. I even cheered for Samaki Walker and that dude could be annoying. Lue? The crowd used to love that guy. Horace Grant? Awesome. Malone, Payton, here for just one year and we got so close. Mitch Richmond - I wanted him to play more, was sorry he didn't really get the triangle. Remember Pargo? Loved that dude. When Vlad was signed I defended it, always thought the guy had a sweet stroke and I still think he's helped more than hurt. When Sasha was mentioned as a possible draft pick I check out all the euroleague articles I could find. I supported Cook, Evans... still support Walton. Anway, this is a really longwinded rant for me, I usually post a line or two and don't much care if anyone's reading or if they've gone on to read the next bandwagon-jumper who's decided to trash L.O. or Pau.

We've had an amazing season - everyone's contributed in some way - whether they're putting in big minutes or taking the abuse in practice. Think of Sasha - the dude has had to guard Kobe year in and year out in practice and he's worked on his game - he HAD to, you don't guard Kobe Bryant without working on your game. A lot of you have trashed him up, down and sideways on this blog and now he's everybody's hero. Just like Pau was everybody's hero when he came in... Bynum went down - bloggers started blogging about the sky falling - Pau comes in and totally ROCKS our team. Remember all the Kung-pow stuff? Now that he's had some admittedly bad games, the jumpers are jumping off again - "Pau's just a finesse player, Pau's weak, Pau's a sissy." Same goes for L.O. - the guy has been absolutely instrumental in getting us to the finals again... he starts getting into foul trouble and let the trade suggestions BEGIN! Real nice.

I'm always happy to read certain regular bloggers... they tend to be ones that have hung in there during good times and bad. They might have honest criticisms but by and large they support the TEAM. If any of them are reading this, they undoubtedly know who they are. You trashtalking jumpers know who you are too and you can respond if you want, laugh it off, dismiss it, defend yourselves, talk about how this player sucks or that player sucks... I don't care - it's a free country, it's all good. Myself, I'll be at a bar in enemy country tomorrow night... believing in the Lakers, 1-15. Okay, I'll go away now, hahaha... see what happens when Rip Van Winkle gets stirred up?

Nice post Dave M. Continue posting some feedbacks on what New Englanders think about the Lakers. I am wondering their views on the sudden rise of the Celtics who used to be bottom dwellers in the league last year. I posted on their blog saying that they are practically buying the Championship rather than developing within the organization and work as a team.

hey RespectMyAuthoritah , that is a pretty good observation. I have always felt that it easier to defend one player instead of multiple players. I also believe that the Lakers will allow 1 Celtic player to go crazy with points and shut the others down.

dave m,

That's alot of ranting about nothing of substance. LO and Pau have been seriously sucking in the finals. Pau has been sucking since Utah.

Period.

Now go have a drink in your little bar and chilax.

With regards to the referee scandal case, there should be a full investigation similar to Mitchell Report in baseball. We may ignore the allegation of a referee who was convicted in rigging games, however it is for the good of NBA to remove suspicion and work beyond David Stearns who has been on this job for almost two and half decades. There is a need to overhaul the organization and consider ia young blood to lead the NBA. Nobody is indispensable with his job, every year people suspect of hanky panky in officiating and favoring the owners rather than the fans. There is a need for new direction in this league.

Laker Tom, Ex


Yeah, I'll buy into the fact that the Celts defense has been a thorn this series thus rendering LO ineffective from an offensive standpoint but here's why I get nutty... During the reg season, I can count the amount of times I watched a Boston Game on one hand ( 2x's) I will only watch certain teams if I HAVE TO and Boston is at the top of the list, so I basically had NO IDEA what type of ball they play. PJ or 9 rings ( I love that nickname, didnt someone here come up with that? ) gets paid BIG BUCKS to know strengths and weakness of opposing teams. I read this earlier from Bill Simmons column and it made me mad at 9 rings.... heres an excerpt...

" Look, I hate to rip the Zen Master because I'm still hoping he will agree to become my grandfather after this series is over. But the Lakers seemed woefully unprepared to start this series. For one thing, anyone who watched the Celtics this season knew their ballhandlers were suspect, they're truly awful on fast breaks (watch how many easy ones they botch from game to game, it's absolutely incredible), and that good things happen to opponents who pressure them -- only the Lakers waited seven quarters to play that card even though they have guys such as Sasha Vujacic and Jordan Farmar who are great baseline-to-baseline agitators. On top of that, it took the Lakers until Game 3 to stick Kobe on Rajon Rondo -- the logical move, since they could dare Rondo to shoot 20-footers and use Kobe to swarm everyone else. Cleveland used this strategy in Round 2 and flustered Boston's offense to the degree the Cavs almost stole the series. Don't the Lakers have scouts? I can't believe I'm writing this, but the Celtics have outwitted the Lakers in this series so far."


See what I mean? Dont WE have a scout team? I didnt know the Celtic guards crack under pressure but now I'll pay closer attention. That type of stuff Phil SHOULD KNOW???? Anyways, one last thought then I gotta get rid of this headache...Unlike most, I'm not getting all twisted over the Donaghy(sp?) story. I mean, how hard would it be for him to pick out the most blatant missed called games and attach "fixed" to it? There's a very good possibility that he got caught and now he's trying to deflect and bring others down with him. I'm not discounting him, but I'm not pretending what he's saying is the gospel either. The dude is a low life scumbag, usually people in his position try to do whatever it takes, to lesson the amount of time behind bars once they get caught. In order for what he's saying to pan out, Other's HAVE to be involved. Until the Feds march out "others" I'm staying neutral and hopeful that it isnt true.

ex,

You’re right. Boston’s defense has really frustrated all of the Lakers, with the possible exception of Sasha, who is fortunately firing away with his same old total confidence, even after getting the evil eye from Kobe. LOL. You just have to love Sasha’s attitude. Only way you can play the game if you’re a great shooter. Needless to say, I think the Lakers will match ANY offer that Sasha gets as a restricted free agent.

What I find very interesting is that Sasha’s clutch shooting and improved defense may have vaulted him into the competition to start at point guard down the road. I know that sounds as unlikely as Korey wearing an “I Love Sasha” T-shirt, but with all of the great playmakers and ball handlers on this team and the Triangle, it is not out of the question. In fact, we may even see Sasha start before this series is over if Vlade fades.

I was also very happy with how Farmar played last night, too. His 5 points came at key points in the game and he had 5 dimes, 4 boards, 1 block, and 0 turnovers in 20 minutes. More importantly, Jordan played with energy and confidence, showing again his ability to rise to the moment and play well in big games. While Farmar made great strides from his rookie year, I look for 2009 to be his breakout year, ala Deron William.

Tom

Stump,

Reading the transcripts of PJ's interview today he mentioned that Boston has a very good D and when you get a chance to cut or do something good, you need to be decisive and take it, because you might not get an opening again within the shot clock.

That might explain why we are taking some of those shots in the clock that we weren't taking in other series.

John,

Thanks for the props. I missed your post about possibly starting Sasha and Farmar but think that it is not impossible that Sasha might start later in the series if Vlade does not pick it up. Phil wants the 3-point threat in the starting lineup, especially with Boston collapsing their defense to protect the paint.

Your idea has a strong point in favor in that Sasha and Jordan are two guys who are not afraid to mix it up or take a shot, which suddenly seems to be very scarce on the Lakers. Of course, Andrew will very quickly put that problem to rest next year. But for now…

Tom

Here is an email I sent to BS, Bill Simmons:

I have a simple question. Why does ESPN have a writer dedicated to bashing LA the city, the people of LA, the entire Lakers organization including the fans and especially Kobe, in almost every article written about the 2008 finals (and in articles about previous '07-'08 games as well)? Do you really think that everyone at a Lakers game is rich, or a movie star, or a trophy wife? I know you're relying on stereotypes about LA to get a laugh from your non LA readers, but can't you do it with more intelligence than by using cliches? And why doesn't ESPN have a counter point to you who writes about Boston and the Celtics and people from MA? Why isn't there a writer on staff who makes comments about the Boston fans, and the Celtics organization, the way the Celtics play, and KG? You know what? LA Lakers fans love their team. Boston fans love their team. All the stuff you say about the city of LA, it's people, Lakers fans is true for only a small percentage of the populace, the wealthy and mostly caucasian. You have, frankly, a racist view, because you never include in your LA hating rants the reality of the huge majority of the poor and middle class LA citizens and Lakers fans, largely composed of people of color: Latino/Latina, African American, Asian, but yes even Caucasian folks too. I'd like to hear back from you about this, even if it's just one or two sentences. And if you could, tell ESPN to hire a guy or a gal, or hey! even a person of color, to write columns poking fun at, criticizing, tearing apart, insulting, in order: Boston, Boston citizens, the entire Celtics organization, KG, PP, RA, and good ol' Doc Rivers, and, while you're at it, BS too (that stands for Bill Simmons by the way, not something else).

Ex,

"This is interesting:
'It hurts a lot, but it's not too painful"."

Haha, here's another one for ya:

"There's no way I'm going to miss the game, probably. I don't want to hurt the team and go out there and not give it my all, but I think I'm sure I'll be playing tomorrow night."

There's no way...probably? And, my personal favorite, "I think I'm sure."

IS HE PLAYING OR NOT?! LOL!!

GO LAKERS!!!


Stump,

>>>We need to move the ball around like we always do and
>>> not settle for those 3's.

uh, what game were you watching?

The Lakers are averaging 16 3 point shots per game. That's
well under their regular season average. If anything, the Lakers
should take a few MORE 3's

LMAO. THank you psycologist. And to think that I'm being couseled for free. Man, my life just can't get any better right now. We're getting off of the subject however. The primary focus was the WWFNBA and what's wrong with it. Not what's wrong with me. That would make for some boring conversations.

I wish I could discuss some of my engineering theories, but I just won't do that. Did you see the headline about the Kings vs the Fakers and what Tim D is alleging? I remember that series and I remember how pissed off the Sac fans were. Are you going to tell me that it's something to do with my life or my problems? Or are you going to confront the article and attempt to make sense of it like a good psycologist would do?

Posted by: Engineero | June 11, 2008 at 05:24 PM

Let's confront your problems first. Don't forget, what brought you here isn't because you truly believe you can make a difference on a Laker blog. You are too smart for that, since you know your vast array of statistics and evidence would be best presented to your congressmen. You want someone or something to be angry at, at a place you can lash out at, especially in an anonymous fashion. You're life as an engineer doesn't allow for this. It doesn't allow an emotional outlet. So the Jazz and the NBA are it.

After the Lakers or Fakers, as you say, beat the Jazz, you no longer had a handle on your anger. Look at the way your wrote on that night. May 16th, all caps, the word salad, etc. You are trying to be sound reasonable now, and trying to present a humorous front, but have no doubt, there is a anger management problem there. You have to take care of that before the integrity of your psyche tears itself apart.

The Kings, Lakers, and Jazz? Remember, you use these issues as a proxy for your own problems. You don't have to get into engineering theories, because I have a feeling you are quite the smart cookie. Let's keep you focused on your own problems. After all, the subject is you, and there's enough there. You want attention, I'm with you all the way, champ. Its why you're here.

Now, again, why do you hate California and environmentalists? Let's take this 1 step at a time.

Let's keep this going. Baby steps, my friend, baby steps.

Baby steps,
The Psychologist

PS "I'm good enough, smart enough, and doggone it, people like me"x 3. Cheesy, but effective if you use it in the morning. Try it my good friend.

Korey.

Right on, man. I absolutely agree on your comments about Sasha, although I thought that SASHA VUJAWACK was pretty funny. We definitely got three guys in Kobe, Sasha, and Jordan who aren’t afraid to strap it on and bring it no matter how big the game. I said a few weeks ago that Sasha would get MLE money for 5 years and was ridiculed for it. The Lakers are lucky that Sasha is a restricted free agent because they will pay what they have to pay to keep this guy in purple and gold. The only question is will Sasha start at the point down the road or come off the bench to become 6th man of the year. LOL.

Tom

karyanr and RespectMyAuthoritah,

Excellent detailed analysis!

I also believe that 9 Rings is beginning to get the upper hand. Combine that with Doc's ability to analyze the game as follows "uhhh, my guys didn't play that well" and the gap grows even wider!

Lakers in 6!!!

LakerTom,
"I missed your post about possibly starting Sasha and Farmar but think that it is not impossible that Sasha might start later in the series if Vlade does not pick it up"

The problem with that is that Vujacic is the only scoring threat on the bench. I like the three-guard/small lineup against the Celtics; I think that negates their physicality qhite a bit. But then that leaves the bench weaker. (Turiaf hasn't been "himself" since that minor injury a few weeks ago. I think it is still affecting him.)

I think that they should consider playing Sasha as the starting "point guard" next season; it would improve the team defensively and put the best long-range threat in the game more.

He can be annoying, but I overall really like Rosen's analysis of the game.

Here's one of his takes:

"(Many media hounds have dismissed the free-throw discrepancy in Game 2 by claiming that the Lakers weren't aggressive. Say what? How can a team yield 38 free throws without being aggressive?)"

This is so true. You cannot say the Lakers only shot 10 free throws because they were not aggressive. If that were true, then you have to agree that the fouls called on the Lakers were suspect at best. You can't have it both ways.

And it is hilarious how Boston fans are crying foul in Game 3. It may not have been the best officiated game, but I'd have to say it was the most impartially reffed game in the series so far.

Which brings up my point I made yesterday that the inferior team (boston) got the benefit of two "homer" ref crews and we will get three "impartial" crews.

Count on it. We will get Javie tomorrow. He is notorious for officiating AGAINST the home team.

You have to spot the inferior team a little, right? That is the NBA influence under Stern with NO liberty and injustice for all.

GO LAKERS!! Take this...

gokobego,
LOL!

LakerTom,
"What I find very interesting is that Sasha’s clutch shooting and improved defense may have vaulted him into the competition to start at point guard down the road"

Honest - I hadn't read your post before I wrote mine. I also think that would be a good move.

You know what I'd really like to see?

Tuesday, June 17.

Lakers finishing off the series by beating the Celtics in bean
town. It's the end of the game, Lakers are up by 20, so Boston has
stopped fouling them and is letting them run out the clock.
The last seconds are ticking off the clock.

3...

2...

1...

Sasha lets fly with a 3-pointer buzzer beater to make the
final deficit 23 points instead of 20.

Now THAT would be nice.

Fearless,

All you had to do was listen to Doc’s comments about Sasha being the guy that killed the Celtics to understand why he decided to play Kobe straight up on the game’s last 2 plays. Amazingly, Doc Rivers pretty much decided not to double team the greatest player in the world because he was so afraid of Sasha Vujacic’s hot hand from 3-point land. LMAO.

Kobe was so alone of that 3-point shot that I was sure he was going to blow it. And I could not believe he missed so many free throws. He was definitely in Shanghai without a translator. LOL. But those last two shots to seal the game were vintage Kobe clutch. And the defense against Rondo and Pierce put him back in the lead for series MVP.

Tom

complex,
I think the question is how much a coach should proactively change his "normal" game plan, especially if it has been working. That also makes it more difficult on his own team. I guarantee that the Celtics games were very thoroughly analyzed by the Lakers staff, and they felt that their approach was what would work best. And had a number of their players not gone "into the tank" in games 1 and 2, they would have gotten at least a split.

bronx,

It’s not only that they are pretty good but also they play like no other team in the league, which makes it harder when you only see them twice a year and often very early. Last night’s win has tremendous psychological value not to mention preventative value insofar as keeping the Lakers alive in the Finals. I predict we will win by blowouts in the next two game in LA and then win a Game 6 squeaker in Boston to clench the championship.

Tom

I just read that some writers are pointing to the San Antonio small market success as evidence against the Conspiracy Theory.

Wouldn't France and Argentina together make up a pretty good-sized demographic?

Hmmmmm.....

Love Sasha...but he is not and shouldn't be a point guard. For starters he doesn't have the ball handle necessary for the position. For another he dribbles too high and has yet to show that he's capable of dribbling so it won't get stolen.

That said, I think you have to seriously think of him as a starting 2, with Kobe at the 3. It works in so many levels....not the least of which is it puts Kobe in a position where he doesn't have to work as much, and will in fact more than not, get the ball in his spots.

Go Lakers!

I used to gripe about Sasha a LOT. He had (and still has, sometimes) a tendency to try to push the ball up the court so fast that he gets a bit out of control. His ball handling skills have certainly improved this season, although I still get nervous when he's the guy running the break.

However, the thing that makes Sasha special is his will to win. I have no doubt that Kobe has influenced him greatly, but you can't teach someone who doesn't have that passion to suddenly HAVE it. Sasha has it. He believes that every shot he takes is going to go in, and, like D. Fish, he loves to take big shots in big moments. Make or miss, I love that about him. Hey, you gotta take 'em to make 'em.

Stay aggressive, Lakers. Three more to glory.

Go Lake Show!

Was it BUTLER or Red's bastard child who commented that
defense wins championships.

The Lakers have made 103 of their 229 shots, for 45%. Not
bad defense. Pretty stingy actually. That's very impressive
defense.

Oh yeah... almost forgot.

The Celtics have made 97 of their 227 shots, for 43%.

Yep. It takes good defense to win championships.

karyanr,

Excellent point that the Celtics avoiding cross matchups gives the Lakers an advantage in that we can determine who on the Celtics guards which Lakers – or at least initially as the Celtics are too smart to let us get away with a bad mismatch for too long. The key is to make sure to take advantage of the mismatch while you have it. And then create another.

By the time this series is over, Doc Rivers will be the new Avery Johnson. LOL.

Tom

franz,

Can you do us all a favor? Forward that e-mail to the ombudsman at espn.com

Here's the link:

http://sports.espn.go.com/keyword/search?searchString=Le_Anne_Schreiber&rT=sports

She's pretty good. Basically blasted espn and it's reporters for printing bogus lists before the Mitchell Report came out.

http://www.sacbee.com/100/story/1004548

-A joke-

What do Allegations that the Sacramento Kings were screwed (either through incompetence or deliberately) by the NBA in the 2002 WCF and the Boston Celtics have in common?

Answer: The Truth!

Not so funny. It could happen to you. Just the other day, many of you were whining like little girls that it was happening to you. Remember? In light of O'Donnaheehee's recent allegations, they wouldn't be so bold as to pull some shenanigans even now would they? I wouldn't bet against the NBA to do anything which favors their darling-of-the-day, and you ain't it this time around.

We know it can and did happen, and so do you. All of us, tell that sleazy lawyer to clean it up. Clean all of it up.

Sonnybelfast

ex,

LOL. What can I say. Great minds think alike. blog-sync-think. I also do like his scoring off the bench. The question is that Sasha might be better as a 6th man, ala Manu. He could possibly be the 6th man of the year next year. It will be interesting to see if the Lakers are thinking like we are.

Tom

posted by FRANZ:

Here is an email I sent to BS, Bill Simmons:

I have a simple question. Why does ESPN have a writer dedicated to bashing LA the city, the people of LA, the entire Lakers organization including the fans and especially Kobe, in almost every article written about the 2008 finals (and in articles about previous '07-'08 games as well)? Do you really think that everyone at a Lakers game is rich, or a movie star, or a trophy wife? I know you're relying on stereotypes about LA to get a laugh from your non LA readers, but can't you do it with more intelligence than by using cliches? And why doesn't ESPN have a counter point to you who writes about Boston and the Celtics and people from MA? Why isn't there a writer on staff who makes comments about the Boston fans, and the Celtics organization, the way the Celtics play, and KG? You know what? LA Lakers fans love their team. Boston fans love their team. All the stuff you say about the city of LA, it's people, Lakers fans is true for only a small percentage of the populace, the wealthy and mostly caucasian. You have, frankly, a racist view, because you never include in your LA hating rants the reality of the huge majority of the poor and middle class LA citizens and Lakers fans, largely composed of people of color: Latino/Latina, African American, Asian, but yes even Caucasian folks too. I'd like to hear back from you about this, even if it's just one or two sentences. And if you could, tell ESPN to hire a guy or a gal, or hey! even a person of color, to write columns poking fun at, criticizing, tearing apart, insulting, in order: Boston, Boston citizens, the entire Celtics organization, KG, PP, RA, and good ol' Doc Rivers, and, while you're at it, BS too (that stands for Bill Simmons by the way, not something else).


FRANZ, my brother,

great email, but you'll get nothing in return.

you are but one voice. BS is a homer with a national microphone.

i don't read anything this guy has to say, unless i want to increase my blood pressure.

It's a shame that four letter sports networks promote and proliferate this kind of Nation vs. LA mentality. But it sells, i guess.

the SH#### thing is that just like the other national news media outlets, they control what the public sees and consequently things. Very few are capable of making a decision on their own based on their own observations. They need guys like BS to tell them what to say around the water cooler.

Hating LA is easy. Loving HER is constantly defending it. Just like loving Kobe is contstantly defending HIM.

Again, great thoughts, and a great email. i'd love to hear if you got a response but i'm confident you wont.

cheers,

chick penberthy

REPOST


LOOOOOL!!!

Psychologist,
you're crazy. I have been reading the Lakers blog for a long time now, but have never posted. This time I could not contain myself. I'm still laughing. I have zerod in on your posts to Engineero. This stuff is classic. I have become your fan. lol. You've got to keep posting. I'm seriously thinking you might just help this poor helpless chap.


Needless to say, I'm so proud to be a Lakers fan. And while I'm posting I have to say this is the best blog by far in all of sports blogs. I am honored to be in the company of such intelligent, knowledgeable, and humorous bloggers. I think it's safe to say, you guys are entertaining the whole bball community with your witty and intelligent posts. Keep up the good work everyone, all these trolls are just plain jealous of all the faithfull Lakers fans. While they're here anyways, hope they at least learn a good bball and Lakers history lesson. I'm glued to my laptop.

The Lakers blog...where trolls also get a free treatment for their mental health problems!!!


Dave M,

A rare, honest, and refreshing post from a real Laker fan.

Sonnybelfast

LakerTom,

". Last night’s win has tremendous psychological value. . "

The bigger psych value and the initial one was the 4th Q rally in game 2. C's got to see the Lakers' extra gear and that, I believe, scared the heck out of them. Winning game 3 further shakes their confidence and reveals KG's really nature. He's their LO. Good all around but he's the #3 guy.

Go Lakers!


Defeat the celtics tomorrow!

I believe!

Sasha's moniker should be

Tres Ex Machina

I've already bought the domain and built the Sasha Experience, an online virtual world for fans of Tres Ex Machina and his quasi-sketchy eastern european gangster ilk.

Lakers will take it in 7 games, and KG will have to retire due to his head literally exploding.

Zen,

"People need to stop talking about the referee conspiracy!!! Don't you see? That is just going to make the NBA hide it and make the Celtics WIN instead of the Lakers... If the NBA was fixing the series, they would want the Lakers to WIN.

Now with all this talk, the NBA is going to want Boston to win to make everyone shut up."

I had that thought. But you know what, I'm having a hard time caring.

Seriously, of course I want the Lakers to win. But not because they're gifted a bogus trophy.

Look, here's another thing to think about with all this. According to a lawyer knowledgable about these types of negotiations, Donaghy loses all benefits of his deal if anything he says is proven false. He really has incentive to tell only the truth only about what he knows.

Bury your head in the sand if you will. This story isn't going away and if you head Stern on Chris Meyers' radio show today, you heard him being just a tad too defensive. The commish doth protest too much.

I believe his reign may be over in the very near future.

Why else would you be able to find highlights from every game in the LA-SAC WCF '02 on youtube, but not game 6, unless the NBA made youtube take the evidence down?

Face it, Zen, Ex, and everybody else who is choosing to ignore this or make snarky comments: The NBA is in REAL trouble.

And, no, the facts that Ike Thomas ran the Knicks into the ground in the largest US market and we got boring, small-market Spurs-Pistons last year are not proof that a conspiracy isn't there. We are not looking at league-mandated champions every year. We are looking at referees influencing individual contests, on a game by game basis, in the playoffs to increase cash flow for the league.

And no, David Stern isn't sitting in dark room giving the directives. He's too smart not to maintain plausible deniability. But his "company men" know the deal nonetheless.

Just. So. Sad.

Faith,
You can get away without a "true" PG in the triangle. Fisher is not a real playmaker, either. The problem with Kobe at SF is that he would have to work pretty hard on defense, against bigger players. And Sasha at point gives the Lakers a size advantage at that position against just about every team.

If anyone is close enough to Simmons to pour a beer over him, please PLEASE get him. Actually, if those guys who worked over the jerk in the Pierce jersey Sunday night are reading this, find Simmons picture on BSPN, find him tomorrow and do your thing.

Troy - thanks for the your response, brilliant as always. Earlier in the thread you said Pau played pretty good in game 2 and then you came back saying he's been seriously sucking in the finals and sucking since Utah. Just curious, which is it, pretty good or seriously sucking? What about the game against the Spurs when he got 19 boards - where'd that rank on the Troy suck-scale? Or the S.A. game where he had 19 points, second most behind Kobe?

Oh and thanks, I will "chilax" in my little bar tomorrow, whatever that means. I'll support the Lakers as well, including Pau and L.O. and whoever else you enjoy trashing.

http://www.sacbee.com/100

Worthy reading for all NBA fans.

Sorry about the other link, which not surprisingly per the Sacbee, was no good.

Sonnybelfast

YEahh, It's becoming very fun now. I'm tired now and need to turn into bed and watch a movie. Maybe I'll watch one of those dirty movies that was made in LA.

I'll think about the blogging and sleep on it, then "I'll be back." Psychologist, you're still avoiding the subject. I can't believe you misdiagnosed me in the manner that you did. I'm a realist. My local congressman - they're too busy buying cheap property somewhere and preparing to madate a project for it in the future. Thanks my friends and I'll see you tomorrow. This blogging is becoming an addiction. Thank God i have a proficient psychologist.:)

Sasha


Lamar

Pau

Kobe

Go Lakers!

Tom,
actually, I see Odom as 6th man of the year next year.

Odom has proven he cant even stick a 15 foot jumper down, so how does we expect him to shoot from 3?

Odom can be the diff. maker off the bench that all those great LAKERS/CELTICS team had. He can be our havlicek, mychal thompson, danny ainge, whoever game changer.

It wont be fair. At this point, Odom will NEVER be an All-Star. But bring off the bench, DEFINE his role every nite and he can EASILY be 6th man of the year.

Starting Kobe at SF next year might be a great option that will keep team's off balance, while bringing Sasha at the 2.

We overmatch you with height at PF/C, and quickness at SF (Kobe). Then there are two shooters on the floor in Sasha and Fish/Farmar.

That's deadly.

Off the bench you bring the D and energy in Ariza, Odom and Turiaf.

Anyway, let's hope we show Boston how it really is and THROTTLE them in Game 4. If we can do that, then they will be VERY WORRIED for Game 5.

=== DONT SAY KG ON THIS BLOG NO MORE!!!! IT's Kg ====

KG is no more. I knew it all along actually.

We are RE-NAMING him Kg. It's because he's not a G. he's a small g in the clutch.

If this is the softest frontcourt in the NBA then why is Kg shooting 36% against it? Why does that say about Kg?

It says he's OVER-RATED.

And on D, he has this reputation where he is never fouls anyone.

So let's start the renaming on this blog, KG is NOW TO BE RENAMED: Kg!!!!

To many people down on Vlad, again he's guarding Pierce, he gets cheap fouls which normally wouldnt be called against others players, this last game 3 of his 4 fouls were crap calls and if he would have been on the floor longer that would have been the kind of game he would have thrived in. It was designed for him to get the kick outs to get shots, but as it turns out Sasha got them. Vlad played decent in the 1st two games, and I think you'll find if he can get past the 1st quarter and the refs decide to stay out of the game then he'll be of some value. I think this whole series has been too influenced by the officials in every game and it's really making it one to forget.

Faith,

Whether Sasha could play the point in the Triangle would depend on who the other team was but your point about Sasha at the 2 and Kobe at the 3 is a good one - after all, that is how we are finishing most games now. But I still think against certain teams Sasha could play the 1 in the Triangle. Wow, I can't believe I just said that. Way to get better, Sasha. Faith is waiting for you when you become a superstar. LOL.

Tom

Tom

provided we continue to spread our offense...Kobe as our defensive gun would be the best thing for us. He's our best defensive player to begin with anyways.

That said...I think you're overlooking Fish's handles. He may not be a play maker per say, but he's definitely one you can trust with the ball.

Korey,

You are right. I love it. Kg. ray allen. paul pierce. LOL.

Tom

Sonny B - back atcha, as always. P.S., I still want Salmons on my team, haha.

jester,
"Donaghy loses all benefits of his deal if anything he says is proven false."

Don't you get it? That's the beauty of this from Donaghy's perspective. How can anything he claims be "proven false"? Can you "prove" that Kobe didn't deliberately miss those free throws last night? No. And they won't be able to "prove" that the refs didn't throw the game.

Aloha Laker Tom,

I have to disagree a little with you about Sasha at the point. I think the main reason he has come alive this year is because they moved him to the 2 spot, his natural position. He is great defensively playing shooting guards and small forwards but he struggles against quick point guards. I think ultimately , like you said, will become a 6th man of the year candidate next year. Its the following year we may see him starting at the 2. Lamars contract will be up and if the Lamar at the 3 doesnt play out well or he wants to much to resign, then I think Kobe becomes our small forward and Sasha starts at the 2. That could also help extend Kobes carear as well.

MH

To Charles:

You asked me -
"PeanutButterSpread,

"How cool is it that Marc Gasol was at practice, helping Pau out? Good practice for Pau against Garnett."

Where did you get that info?"

I didn't "get" the info, persay. I saw the practice photos of Marc and Pau practicing together on the court before practice and media session. Check them out here:

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/4325/photos

Hope that helps!!

Korey,

Isn’t it amazing that we are having these conversations about getting Sasha in the starting lineup. Who would of thought? Well, other than Faith that is. LOL. Anyway, there is a enough good logic to getting Sasha into the starting lineup that the Lakers should take a hard look at it in training camp. A lineup of Drew, Pau, Kobe, Sasha, and Fish would be able to play the ultimate inside-outside game. Twin towers and three shooters.

I’m still not ready to quit on Vlade. He is shooting over 40% from 3-point range and his height gives him an advantage just as Sasha’s quick release gives him an advantage. It’s nice to have a great shooter on the floor all of the time and Vlade probably needs to start. I think there is still great untapped potential there, much like we saw from Sasha earlier. I have a hunch that if we stick with Vlade, he will develop into a killer shooter.

Similarly, I’m not ready to quit on the Triple Towers with Drew, Pau, and Lamar either. The Celtics are really the only team that has been able to stop Lamar in the past three months and the fact that Boston has also seriously affected Pau’s and Kobe’s games leads me to think it is just the current matchups, which will not be the same once Drew returns.

That there are so many options, of course, is the beauty of our deep and talented roster. My hunch is that the Lakers will probably go with Drew, Pau, Vlade, Kobe, and Fish with Lamar and Sasha coming off the bench with Farmar and Ariza as the 1st rotation. There will definitely also be times when we go Triple Towers against certain teams and the team on the floor to close out games may well be the Triple Guards lineup.

Tom

Aloha, Michael,

Can't say that I disagree with you. But I do see some situations where we have Kobe and Sasha as our two guards along with the Triple Towers. It will be fun to see what Phil and the coaches do.

Tom

Can someone PLEASE get kobee a Steve GNASH "How To Improve Your Guard Skills" DVD? The kid needs to learn how to shoot FT's, no matter how good Boston's FT defense is!

If I have to see Ga-Shawl shy away from the paint any more, I'd think he was Dirk Nowitzki! kobee might wish to have SHACK back, but SHACK is now with the SUNS where He has a better guard to work with.

The Celts are reportedly mad as hornets that they played so poorly and yet only lost by a few, so close to a victory. The next game means LA goes down 1-3!

Paul Pierce, we in Laker Nation want to see you play your best tomorrow night!


Posted by: BUTLER | June 11, 2008 at 03:06 PM

Great idea. Kobe can watch and learn what NOT to do to be a champion!

 
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