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Blog vs. Blog- Who should America root for?

June 3, 2008 |  5:16 pm

Voting_web Yesterday, we kicked off our blog-off with the folks over at the Boston Globe Celtics Blog, answering the question of whether or not the Celtics can stop Kobe Bryant.  And a spirited debate it was.  Today, we tackle another whopper.  As the excitement of Lakers vs. Celtics washes over the nation, one thing is clear: L.A. is pulling for the purple and gold, while Boston is all about the green.  But what about the rest of the country? 

Who should be America's choice?

Gary Dzen: Boston Globe

It's inevitable.

During every sport's major championship, bandwagon fans come out of the woodwork to swear their allegiance to one side or the other. During the Super Bowl, it was everybody against the Patriots (the Super Bowl is the NFL's championship game, in case someone is reading this from Los Angeles). During the last World Series, people attached themselves to those lovable, huggable Red Sox.

And so it goes.

Putting our prognosticating glasses on, it's easy to see that the Celtics are going to win over a nation of wannabe basketball fans during the NBA Finals.

Start with KG, whose intensity has earned him a cult following around the world. It's impossible not to like Kevin Garnett if he's playing for your team. KG will draw people in, no doubt.

Besides Garnett, the Celtics have plenty of other guys who fans will want to root for. Ray Allen is a smooth-talking, smooth-shooting class act.  Paul Pierce has never abandoned his home team and has never asked for a trade. 

Rajon Rondo tries like heck on every play. Leon Powe and Glen Davis bring lunch pails into the paint. Eddie House alternates between nailing three-pointers and standing on the bench to cheer for his teammates on every possession.

There's also this little issue of what would be good for the NBA. The league needs the Celtics to be good. Boston has revitalized professional basketball on the East Coast this season, and lord knows the Knicks and Sixers aren't going to be of any help for a while. When the Celtics are good, the NBA is marketable to an entire region of the country.

And then there's this: Kobe can market the Lakers by himself. The league's most popular player doesn't need rings for people to watch him. But if he loses, it's just another reason for the country to cheer.  People love seeing an MVP, but there's nothing people love more than seeing an MVP fail.

Brian Kamenetzky, LAT

Despite making my living on the Internet, I’m not a big believer in conspiracy theories.   

Yes, these playoffs have seen some controversies favoring the Lakers and Celtics.  No punishment for KG after his shove-in with Eddie Rush in the Atlanta series.  (A good call by the NBA.  Just because they freaked out during the Phoenix-San Antonio series doesn’t mean they have to compound the error by sticking to precedent.)  No call on Brent Barry at the end of Game 4.  (A bad call, but the refs botched the previous play and besides, at that point in a game players have to maul each other like hungry pumas to force a whistle.  Had the famous McHale clothesline of Kurt Rambis happened in the last six seconds of the fourth, it probably wouldn’t have been called.)  Whatever.  The two best teams in the NBA made it to the Finals, as it should be.

Obviously, Bostonians are pulling for the green, while L.A. is all purple and gold.  But the rest of America has a choice to make.  Who should they want to see hoist the Larry O’Brien?

The answer, and I’m not just saying this to keep my apartment from getting egged, is the Lakers.  Here are a few reasons why:

  • A title for KG is a nice story, but would have nothing on the dramatic arc of Kobe and the Lakers winning it all this year.  A year ago, the Lakers were a shambles.  Their star player wanted out, the owner’s son was questioning the coach while the owner was getting pulled over for DUI while a 23-year-old woman rode shotgun.  Andrew Bynum is shredded by said star in an Orange County parking lot, blows up on the NBA before blowing up his knee.  A promising season is in doubt until Mitch Kupchak steals Pau Gasol from Memphis.  Now they’re four games from an NBA title.  You could make a movie out of this stuff, and this being L.A., someone probably will. 
  • Death, taxes, and no rain on parade day in LA.  Those are the only guarantees in life.
  • What’s good for Jack Nicholson is good for America.
  • Derek Fisher.  You should be ashamed of yourself for ever rooting against a team for which he plays.  Don’t like him?  Try Ronny Turiaf, a player so enthusiastic and exuberant that fans decided they’d rather watch him cheer from the bench via Yellowbook Cam than any of the dudes on the court during the Western Conference finals.  Finally, there’s Lamar Odom, who has seen more tragedy and death in his family than anyone should, wears his heart on his sleeve, and is as solid a guy as you’ll find in the Association.   
  • The ninth-place team in the Western Conference won 48 games.  The Lakers have defeated 50-, 54,- and 56-win teams just to make it this far.  They finished atop the most brutal conference in recent memory.  The Celtics could have lost every game they played after the All-Star break and still made the playoffs, then beat one good team to make the Finals.  Justice demands the Lakers win in the end.

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Comments

Kobe and Ariza will guard Paul Pierce mostly though Ariza. Radmanovic will start but play few minutes. Ariza will finish the games with Vujacic.

To close the games:

1.Lamar on Perkins (might switch with Gasol on and off)
2.Gasol on Garnett (might switch with Lamar on and off)
3.Kobe on Pierce (Kobe will sit early and Ariza will play big minutes against Pierce to tire him out and Kobe will play more when Pierce is on the bench. Ariza on Pierce to tire him out. Kobe should play big minutes with the bench mob in the second quarter when their defensive players are siting down. Phil should experiment for one game taking Kobe out with about 3 minutes left in the first quarter. He won't do this though.
4.Vujacic on Allen
5.Fisher Farmar on Rondo

I LOVE MY LAKERS ...I LOVE MY LAKERS...
BUT
THE CELTICS WILL WIN BECAUSE THEY HAVE
BEATEN US 8-2. CELTICS HAVE THE MENTAL
EDGE.


troy,
"The almost all white Boston Celtics"

AS much as I dislike the Celtics, that's not very accurate. Off the top of my head, they had a black coach in KC Jones, Cedric Maxwell, Robert Parish, Dennis Johnson, ML Carr.
Red Auerbach could be a jerk, but he was also in the forefront in the 50's and 60's with bringing more blacks into the league.

Check this out

KOBE THE LORD OF DESTRUCTION

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mAslWCctfSM

A sports writer once wondered why Kobe Bryant sold more jerseys in China than Yao Ming. So he asked a Chinese basketball fan and the fan's answer was because Kobe Bryant is an exciting player to watch and Yao isn't.

The Lakers are both America's team and the world's favorite NBA team. KB24 is the most popular player in the U.S.A. and on the planet.

I have watched many NBA games in different cities around the country and what's always amazing is how many Laker jerseys you will find in the audience, in whatever city you're in (well maybe not in Portland, but they're the exception lol) How many times did we hear the MVP chant in any NBA city this year?

Everybody loves a winner and the Lakers are the winners. The Celtics were the winners in the 60s but the NBA was a minor league back then.

Basketball fans anywhere like to watch exciting basketball and the Lakers are the team that play the beautiful game. Showtime and Magic in the 80s. Now, the passing game of the triangle and Kobe's ability to do whatever he wants. The old pre-Shaq Suns were also exciting to watch but they weren't winners and were too one dimensional.

Defensive teams are boring. How many people watched any of the Spurs championship finals? Lowest TV ratings.

The only people rooting for the Celtics are Bostonians and a few dour New Englanders, and people who hate the Lakers because they are losers in life and just hate winners in any aspect of life. The people who didn't get picked for pick-up games. lol

Garnett's intensity is a drawback. He is so amped that his nerves are shot by the 4th quarter. It's like watching a person with obsessive compulsive disorder. By comparison, Kobe is not only cool but a cold Black Mamba by the 4th quarter.

I admire what the Celtics have accomplished this year and I am happy that they are back to present the perfect foil to the Lakers. Ali and Frazier. Bird and Magic. Each needed the other to elevate their game to its highest level. Thank you Celtics!

Get out the vote anywhere and everywhere!

LAKERS
LAKERS
LAKERS

Check out the celtics.com site more than 20% of voters are picking "the unthinkable" (LAKERS) to win.

Also - Sam I am said in his practice interview that one day he'd actually like to coach....what do we think of that one?

GO LAKERS!

To Tom....

Why are you compating Boston Teams to every city under the sun to prove somehow that the Lakers and LA are better. You compare the Sox to the Yankee's, the Patriots to the 49ers, and the Celtics of the last 10-15 years to the Lakers. Talk about selective analyis!!

Last I checked:

Celtics have won more world titles than your LA Lakers.

Patriots have won more Superbowls than your ...Oh yes I forgot you don't have a football team because your fans leave at halftime.

Red Sox have won more World Series in this century and the last century than your Dodgers.

Also....

Celtics are 8-2 against your Lakers in teh finals all time.

Celtics are 16-2 in the finals all time.

Celtics this year have a better record and beat you twice....Gasol or not.

Celtics got this far and they are still figuring out how to play together.

You are all very scared and yet you don't admit it. Ghosts of Bill Russell, Red Auerbach, John Havliceck.....SCARY.

Bye Bye Lakers......your time is up....enjoy the run and see you later.

Oh...yes...and to the racial thing that ignorant people always want to bring up when the subject of Boston comes around.....Red played the first all black team in the history of basketaball.....and had the first black coach in Bill Russell. Get off the whiny racial crap.

What does:

Bill Russell
Sam Jones
KC Jones
Paul Silas
Jo Jo White
Dennis Johnson
Robert Parish
Cedrick Maxwell

have in common?


THEY ARE ALL CHAMPIONS!!!


EAST BEATS THE WEST..WITH GRIT AND DEFENSE. BRING BACK DANCING BARRY SO WE CAN LAUGH AT YOU AGAIN!!

Wallstreet article on the Lakers...

It's easy to love a team. But to truly appreciate sports, you also have to hate.

I learned this lesson growing up in Los Angeles during the mid-1980s. Thanks to my dad's partial package of season tickets and the wonders of cable TV, I spent countless hours watching Magic Johnson, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, James Worthy and the rest of the L.A. Lakers of the "Showtime" era. At one point in elementary school, I owned five different Lakers T-shirts, a pair of Converse high tops featuring the Lakers' logo and had memorized the team media guide. (I was likely one of the few 10-year-olds aware that A.C. Green, the team's Jheri-curled power forward, didn't believe in pre-marital sex.)

Just as importantly, I detested the Boston Celtics. Before I had mastered fractions I knew all about the Lakers' unbearable tradition of losing to the Celtics. In 1984, as a second-grader, I cried after Boston beat L.A. in a grueling, seven-game championship series. The next year, I was at the Forum, the Lakers' faux-Roman arena, when Celtics guard Dennis Johnson nailed a jumper as time expired to win Game 4 of the NBA Finals. (A few days later, when the Lakers won the '85 championship in Boston, my brother and I nearly crushed my Dad – and our parents' bed – in celebration.) But the next year brought a double-whammy: I was in the stands as Ralph Sampson, the spindly 7-foot-4 center of the Houston Rockets, eliminated the Lakers from the playoffs with a miraculous, volleyball-style shot at the buzzer, and then watched the Celtics dismantle Houston for the title. It was a brutal summer.

During that era, I didn't just dislike the Celtics. My venom had layers. I couldn't stand Boston's plodding, physical style of play, which often stifled the Lakers' fast-break attack. I was annoyed that Tommy Heinsohn -- a former Celtic! -- was the color commentator for NBA games on CBS. And I despised -- deeply, truly, passionately -- every player on their roster: Kevin McHale and his Frankenstein shoulders; Greg Kite, a 6-foot-11 bruiser whose only apparent skill was fouling Kareem as hard as possible; and naturally Larry Bird, who was just so frustratingly good.

I loathed team president Red Auerbach and his victory cigars, but the Celtic who really made my blood boil was Danny Ainge. A whiny, wildly annoying shooting guard with a choirboy face, he constantly complained to the refs -- and had a penchant for making clutch three-pointers. He personified the Celtics' evil hoops empire. Meanwhile, I loved every possible thing about the Lakers. I imitated Magic's no-look passes during recess pick-up games and pulled my socks up high like Michael Cooper, the Lakers' toothpick-skinny sixth man. When my friend Mark and I played one-on-one, we would narrate the action like Chick Hearn, the Lakers' legendary announcer: A shot that barely missed was described as a "Heart-brrreak" and our rule was always "no harm, no foul." On a whim, my brother and I would hum the cheesy, late-Disco theme song that introduced Laker TV broadcasts. (And yes, I recently dug it up on YouTube.)

The games at the Forum were even sweeter. Outsiders like to mock L.A. fans for their tardiness and blasé attitude, but we sat among true zealots -- older fans who got there early, yelled at the refs and donned headphones to listen to Mr. Hearn call the action. The regulars in our row included a pair of paunchy women, usually in matching bright-yellow Laker jackets, who rarely smiled but always brought their own big bags of cheese popcorn. Directly behind us sat a large African-American man and his Asian wife, both of whom often came decked out in all-purple Laker gear. He loved to yell "Sweet Baby James!" every time Mr. Worthy slammed home a dunk. After particularly exciting plays, he just extended his big hand and implored me to give him five.


All of my sports-fan impulses -- love for the Lakers and hatred of the Celtics -- came to a head on June 14, 1987. It was no ordinary Sunday. The Lakers were playing the Celtics at the Forum in Game 6 of the NBA Finals. A win would clinch the championship for the Lakers, and it was our turn in the ticket rotation. My parents were out of town -- a trip my dad still regrets -- so my brother, a ninth-grader and not yet 15, called a cab to take us to the game. We entered the arena at least 30 minutes before tip-off, early enough to see Mr. Bird go through his extensive pre-game drills. What followed was the classic routine for playoff games at the Forum: The Lakers emerging from the locker room as Randy Newman's "I Love L.A." blared over the speakers; Jeffrey Osborne singing the national anthem; and the Lakers reserves leading the crowd in a slow, rhythmic clap before the introduction of the team's starting five.

My memories of the game are a little fuzzier. I do recall feeling very nervous and screaming repeatedly for the Lakers to "wake up." (The Celtics were winning by five at halftime.) But the second half was pure joy. At some point in the third quarter, Mr. Worthy dove for a loose ball near the sideline and tapped it to Magic for a breakaway dunk, which ignited a big run by the Lakers. I remember the fourth quarter as a parade of fast breaks by the Lakers followed by desperate Boston timeouts -- and ecstatic high-fives with my brother. With the game -- and championship -- in hand, Coach Pat Riley began taking out the Lakers' starters. The last one out was Mr. Abdul-Jabbar, the 40-year-old center who had scored 32 points. When he came to the sidelines, Mr. Worthy lifted him off the ground and the crowd roared.

After the final buzzer, my brother and I made our way down to the court and joined the celebration on the hardwood, where fans were holding up signs that said "Purple Reign" and "Party at Kareem's!" It's been 21 years since that Sunday, and L.A. is finally playing Boston again in the Finals. I'm still a passionate Lakers fan -- that is, unless I'm writing a news story about them – but I don't hate the Celtics anymore. After '87, I transferred the ill will to the Detroit Pistons, the Chicago Bulls, the Utah Jazz and all the other teams that vanquished the Lakers over the years. Times have changed: Chick Hearn died six years ago, Mr. Auerbach passed away in 2006, and the Forum is now owned by a church. I like the three best players on this year's Celtics roster -- Kevin Garnett, Paul Pierce and Ray Allen -- and I even saw Mr. Pierce play in high school.

There is still one villain from the good old days: Mr. Ainge, who's now Boston's general manager and executive director of basketball operations. I'm ready to hate him all over again.

Fatty - Great "Team America" reference!

16...15...14...13...12...11...10...9...8...7...6...5...

What do:

Bill Russell
Sam Jones
KC Jones
Paul Silas
Jo Jo White
Dennis Johnson
Robert Parish
Cedrick Maxwell

have in common?

THEY'RE VERY OLD UGLY AND DECREPIT....

One thing about Boston, the SUNS have played them better in the Finals than the lakers have. Lakers absolutely blow when it comes to this matchup. Which has continued this year, as evidenced by the two humiliating defeats suffered at the hands of the Mighty Three.

This is the worst possible matchup as a matter of fact, outside SHACK and GNASH and D'ANTONI, for the lakers. Ha ha..

Perkins will dominate the spindly lakers - the man is a raging bull and he's not going to be gentle with the "weenie" nor NotScottiePippen. Larry Bird's spirit might inhabit Ray Allen and Paul Pierce plays like Michael Jordan whenever he takes on his hometown lakers.

KG, well, he's got some motivation to strike with vengeance against the team who kept him from the Finals. Boston, the team which will make everyone cheer by vanquishing the lakers!

I love MH. Keeping everything as real as possible.
And I will always miss Chick Hearn. Very very Good people.
They both exemplify what we should strive for in our own selves. Live life to the fullest! Laker nation will love them

f o r e v e r

Thanks for this site.

Say what,

To mention Dancing Barry, you must be an old fan maybe your concept of the Lakers that they are still playing at Fabulous Forum. Hey, nothing wrong with that, I just think Bostonians are out of touch on what is going on here in the West. You have no clue on things that happened lately so your parameters are the 80's or Shaq era. Had you mentioned Kwame & Smush era, then we know u're up to date with us. Seriously, try to evaluate the Lakers on the revolutionary change at the start of April this year, that's when they started winning against big guns in the West like: the Hornets, the Spurs, the Mavericks and others, that's the major transformation of this team. There is sudden surge of confidence that they could win it all. Indeed, they won at clean slate. The last time they lost at Staples was two months ago. Believe me, nobody in this blog embraced this team to win it all at the beginning of the season except for the employees of the F/O, however after Drew and Gasol transition, we all became believers that this team will reach more heights that we have not yet imagined. Forget the past season when Celtic beat the Lakers twice and move on to the narrow window that I described to you. It was a Laker phenomenon that brought us now to the Finals.

Butler, go home and sleep with the Suns fishes...
Shaq is old and fat and you have to pay him $40,000,000...you're stuck with Mr. Chubs for three years.... and D'Antoni's with the Knicks...the rats are leaving your ship....

I can understand why you're nothing but a pesky little ghost, you have nothing else to live for...Very sad but very true.

ei butler the eeediot . thanks for posting another of your nonsensical opinions.... your beloved gnash has never seen the finals light , so has your former mediocre coach duh antoni he left your mediocre team for more money , what has the regular season match up really means in the playoffs your toothless suns beat the spurs 3-1 ,yet in the playoffs you were roundly soundly and easily kicked out by the spurs 4-1.... before you post another inane item here, please check your brain if its half functional...

phoenix suns have the most dumbest and inane fan, eg butler..... spurs fans are more classy . ei butler whatever you post , we already know your iq is below zero. and you dont know basketball ,take off your suns blinders for a second to see that your planet orange has gone extinct. your suns are mediocre and will be for the next 10 years.

The best team wins. With Kobe & Phil on the Lakers side, it's hard to realistically imagine that the Lakers will lose this, especially if they win game 1.
Both teams are epic, but Boston didn't have to go through the defending champs. This will be a battle, but it just might be the Lakers time. KG is great, but Kobe is the best. LO & Pau w/Fisher & a scary good bench, as well as great passing, is going to unnerve the Celtics.
I can't predict the winner really, but I just can't see the Celtics beating this Lakers team that seems to be so in synch. They thought the last 3 series were tough, this is going to be REAL basketball now.

Gotta love that post by BD! My feelings 'xactly!

Boston guy is a homer.

BK is obviously the more intelligent and well spoken blogger.

No prejudice there!!! ;-)

GO LAKERS!!!!!!!!!

AMERICA'S TEAM= LAKERS

Boston Fans: The love affair with your city ended with the last World Series. While many rooted for the Red Sox to take it all, that has all changed now. The Sox's fan base is shrinking and people are starting to hate them like the Yankee and, speaking of which, the second most hated team in America is the Patriots.

As far as the Celtics, outside of KG there are no other players the country would get behind and root for. Seriously, Rondon? Pierce? Please!

The Lakers have Ronni, Fish AND Lamar - all of whom have overcome tremendous and unfortunate personal tragedies in the last few years to get here. If you are going to tell me that their stories are not more compelling that KG chasing a title bid then you have no heart. Additionally, have you seen how much KG showboats when his team is winning? Do you really think casual fans like that? Have you ever seen any Laker do the same?

Sure, we also have Kobe, some people love to hate because of Colorado and the tirade at the start of the season. Although that does bring the Lakers down, I think most people look at the lakers in the light of the "Showtime" era and that outweighs any bad feelings they may have for Kobe. Plus, 3 championships in the last decade also brough LA a lot of bandwagon fans... So, in the end, my Lakers are everybody's favorite team.

rick suaree

Celtics 8-2 gives them the mental edge??

I don't get it.

After controlling the early history NBA years, the Lakers finally took control of the series in the '80's and won the last two.

The Lakers would have won more from the Celtics, but as ALL Celtics fans know. The Celts disappeared off the Finals scene for 21 years.

While the Lakers continued to compete for titles, the Celtics were stuck in the bottom of the NBA's worst.

So how could the Lakers improve the record when the Celts were not a willing participate? They weren't even their.

What history shows is that the Celts have not been mentally tuff the last 21 years.

Brian K.,

Nice write up. You write circles around that joker from the Boston Globe.

GO LAKERS!

Edwin Gueco/tom/nik kannan,jon k, BLOG!,
about Vlad Man....

While he has played "OK" on D, I wont really give him credit for "locking down" melo or ginobli or whoever we faced.

I give him credit for the most part following the game plan and playing off of these guys. He's 6'10 so he doesnt need to play air-tight D, just give space and challenge shots.

that combined with the help D of Pau and Odom make the difference as you are shooting over about 6 6'10 hands when you drive on Vladdy.

BUT, if you leave Vladdy on a island then pretty much any offensive player with change of direction skills will eat our lil space cadet.

Sorry to say but true.

ON SASHA v. Pierce... We've got to understand Sasha is the great irritant. Sasha can get either Pierce or Allen ready to fight. So i say he takes turns annoying the hell outta both!

Ha, awesome.

I live in Boston, I grew up in Boston, I have always been a Celts fan, and I am moving to LA (Los Feliz/Silverlake) in September! I'm going to be there in mid-Just.

Whoever says that New England is "niceer" than LA obviously hasn't spent too many late-fall/winter/early-spring moths here. Also, out yonder the californyway people are a whole lot more chill. Boston is not known for it's people skills.

As for Celts vs. Lakers:

You Lakers fans make it sound like it's going to be easy. It's not. This is going to be a battle. The Celtics don't bend over, and if Pierce gets heated, his play will get on Kobe's level, he is a much more explosive player than people give him credit for.

And KG, forget it, he plays like a hungry dog.

This is serious is going to be legit. I might just have to become a Lakers fan too, now.

It's weird how much elitist hatred gets spewed by the Boston fans about how well their sports teams are doing now. You would think that after basically being irrelevant in sports for almost two decades, they'd be a little more humble about it. Guess not.

I suppose they could turn around and point to the myopic Laker fans who are predicting a sweep or to the Laker trolls going over to their websites and "teaching them lessons" but it's a shame that none of them actually would like to come here and debate what will actually determine who wins the series.

I want America to route for Celtics only to suffer at the End feeling oh it would have been nice if we jerks routed for La Lakers. Alteast there is drama,entertainment and boozing would have a perfect ending.

Korey, I agree with your observation that you can't leave Vladdy alone, perhaps that's the reason why PJ used him as the starter and Sasha as the closer. However, what Vladdy can do on offense, Walton and Ariza would have hard time to duplicate. During the Spurs series, Vladdy kept the Lakers competitive because of his rainbow shots which are money shots (outside of Kobe's) while Pau. LO and Kobe are at the low post ready for follow ups. Sasha is too small for PP, I say Ariza and Walton and Kobe will take the 4thQ. Vladdy has to train with a football team this off season to be a better defender next year. What's great with this team, there are still room for improvement at the peak of their youth.

The points Greg of the Boston Globe all would have made sense years ago. Things have changed for Boston in the last decade.

- Patriots are the most hated team in the league
- Red Sox, once the lovable losers, are now the new Yankees
- The majority of the Celtic fan base is a bandwagon fan base due to the success of the other sports and the failure of the Celtics the last 2 decades.

Its funny when Boston fans try to pull the same cliche stereotypes from 80s, that they are hardworking blue collar types, small town values, etc. But the success of the Patriots and Red Sox have actually made you look the opposite. The whole country looks as Boston fans as cocky and low class. Look who is your best fan representative, we got Jack, and you got.. Matt Damon & Ben Affleck??

This is just going to end up like the Super Bowl, you guys will have a great record going in, but are going to fall short. How are those 19-0 T-shirts??

I take Butler's comments as a blessing. If there is anything comforting about his posts it's that they are conssistently laughable and consistently wrong!! He's 0-4 this playoffs and 0-3 vs. the Lakers, and of course right as rain, he predicts a Pierce/Allen/KG thrashing, (not to mention the great coach Mike "Don't Ownany" Rings reference). I like our odds on this one guys!! Butler has just probably sealed the fate of the Celtics. Tell Steve Snatch and Amare Studymore I said "hello."

BD great post. We have similar experiences, same ages and everything, only I was on the opposite spectrum at the time. I was one of 2 other Bird fans in the entire school!! Sometimes I would play ball 1 on 5, "Lakers vs. Celtics" during recess, (which was kind of fair since I was a baller as kid.)
That must have been awesome growing up at the Forum, I could have only dreamed of going to all those games back then!! I was a Celtics fan, but I watched every Laker game on TV. The only thing that I never told anyone back then was that I was a huge Worthy fan. I loved hearing Tanter after a Worthy score. And to this day, my favorite team intro is the Showtime Lakers Clap intro.

I happen to relate with Luke Walton in that we both grew up Bird fans, but now side with KB24. The media has done their job in stirring us up with all this rivalry hype and when it comes down to it, none of that matters. I'd love nothing more than to see Kobe go mamba in Boston and then do his best Denzel in Training Day after taking the series 2-0 back to LA.

Kobe:
"I'm the man up in this piece. You'll never see the Larry O'Brien... who the #$@% do you think you're $%#$ing with? I'm the MVP, I run ish around here. You just live here. Yeah, that's right, you better walk away. Go on and walk away... 'cause I'm gonna' burn this mother$#@%$# down. King Kong ain't got ish on me!!"

I'm sorry. But, Boston is often called the most racist city in America. I don't know if there is an empirical way to prove that, or not. There have been some egregious displays of blatant racism evident recently around the country. But, even if Boston is not the most racist, it is still within that discussion.

Some of it, of course, isn't really racism per se. Some of it is due to the old money dynamic which is alive and well in Mass. Boston is the hub of that, and almost all old money in this country is white. Just the way it is. So that can sometimes come off as racist, when it is in reality classist or elitist.

Does America really embrace this city like that?

I am Black and my Father's half of my family is from Boston, so the racism aspect I can attest to from first-hand experience. There is nothing second-hand coming from me on this issue. That is in fact one of the reasons I hate the Celtics so.

On the other hand, wasn't Russel the first Black coach in the NBA? But, then again, that was just Red being contrarian again, wasn't it? I can never tell with that story.

At any rate, it is a family feud with me. LA v. Boston splits my family in two. Just like UCLA (my Alma Matter) v. USC (my Mom's Alma Matter).

However, that racism thing weighs heavily on me, even though I spent some time being raised there.

So, when I say "hate". I mean that deep down, automatic hate. From the gut. The good stuff. What poetry and rap songs are made of.

I HATE the Celtics.

--Fearless

F the Celtics!

"In terms of feel good stories, how about Fisher's daughter surviving cancer, Coby Karl surviving cancer, Ronny surviving heart surgery and Kobe surviving Vanessa?"

Seriously, do we need to show so little class as to bash Kobe's wife? If she's done anything to you, you're justified. But if not, leave her alone. Even BK/AK didn't bash her, TJ Simers did. Don't stoop to his level.

Boston vs. LA will be an epic series.


I'm sorry to insult you, however if you disagree, you probably know little about basketball, except for the regurgitated words of some co-worker you spew on here.

This series will be highly rated, not because it's the Lakers v. somebody and that it's destiny. It'll be highly rated because it stirs up memories of the two greatest teams of all time matching up against each other.

Minus the 10-15% of people on the board that actually know what they're talking about (and thank you to those people, you obviously know who you are, for making this an interesting read) I have never read more ridiculous things in my life.

just watch the games and enjoy the games. If you base your pride off of local sports, you should be wholly embarassed.

Kobe:
"I'm the man up in this piece. You'll never see the Larry O'Brien... who the #$@% do you think you're $%#$ing with? I'm the MVP, I run ish around here. You just live here. Yeah, that's right, you better walk away. Go on and walk away... 'cause I'm gonna' burn this mother$#@%$# down. King Kong ain't got ish on me!!"

Posted by: JSNV | June 04, 2008 at 11:14 AM

JSNV,

Best paraphrase ever!

--Fearless

F the Celtics

Lakers, cause New England should be rooting for Manchester United in soccer... and LA is two words: Show Time!!

When I get the feeling a panick attack is about to happen, I stick one ;ill under my tounge and within minutes I feel completely calm and no longer anxious. I also use the medication if I drank too much wine the night before (too much sugar), I take one pill and the anxiety is gone.

 


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