They're leaving on a jet plane

Watching the Celtics Cavs game two. It's become pretty obvious why Kobe still has the edge on Lebron. Kobe can score ANYWHERE on the floor in 100's of different ways with his technical prowess as a basketball player. His jumper, footwork, handling...still beats out Lebron. Until LBJ gets all that going...he's still just a one trick pony. Drive Drive Drive like a freight train!!

AK - Jordy the COCKROACH?? That's cold, man!

Nobody's talking much about the teams 14 game winning streak. The last time the Lakers finished the season with an eiight game winning streak, they went on to finish 15-1 in the post season. One of the best finishes in NBA history.

I don't know about you, but I suffering from a serious case of deja vu.

Nobody's talking much about the teams 14 game winning streak. The last time the Lakers finished the season with an eiight game winning streak, they went on to finish 15-1 in the post season. One of the best finishes in NBA history.

I don't know about you, but I suffering from a serious case of deja vu.

TEN WINS LEFT!!!!

JustanotherMambaFan,

No disrespect was meant whatsoever. It was just in reference to how resilient those little suckers are. They can take a nuclear holocaust, much less a beating against the hardwood. haha

Now if I'd said it Tony Montana style, like "cock-a-roach," that would have been different. haha

AK

Cockroach name fitting only in that Farmar repeatedly stomped in series by Deron, like so much shoe of angered apartment dwellers.

AK,

You seriously want to be remembered as the guy who gave Farmar that moniker?

How lame is this? The music in the Garden (Celts game) is "if you're happy and you know it clap your hands"....

OMG - pitiful, patheltic, cheesy.....

can i propose a nickname for Gasol? My wife calls him Big Bird. Just how he looks, and runs, and especially wearing the yellow home jerseys. Think about it. Let's make it stick.

P Ang,

"AK, You seriously want to be remembered as the guy who gave Farmar that moniker?"

No, not particularly. I just thought y'all would find the exchange with Walton funny. I don't actually expect the nickname to stick. Frankly, I'd prefer it didn't. I wasn't even trying to create a nickname to begin with. Like I said to "JustAnotherMambaFan," it was just a reference to Walton saying Farmar's impossible to keep down. I wasn't literally likening him to a cockroach.

I'm already regretting the decision to post the audio. haha

AK

For the Celtics to beat th hawks the way they did when they won those games, that was expected because they were playing a sub 500 team and then they lose 3 games! The Lakers sweep a team with over 50 wins! Unheard of! Lakers are on all cylinders! Kobe is in a league of his own and he takes you where no one else who is currently playing the game of basketball cannot take you.

I think Farmar reminds me more of "Speedy Gonzales" myself.

Bamanos! Bamanos! YeeHAW!!!!

Or maybe the Road Runner. Avoiding all the traps. Zipping around. Pecking at his food. Rasberrying his tongue....

AK - we know - we're just busting your chops! LOL!

Cock-a-roach can also mean someone who grabs something that's not his.

Unfortunately, that sometimes applies to Jordan.

Please, guys, get rid of that.

I think he wouldn't mind being called a gymrat.

Farmar is a Toreador. A bullfighter. That's his high school mascot.

He dodges the big guys, weaving around them, stabbing a shot through the hoop and through their fan's hearts!

Benjamin,

“I dig Bynum, I really do, and maybe I can even see your reasoning in not being willing to trade him for anyone, but paying more for him than D-12?”

I start from the premise that the knee injury to Andrew is NOT going to affect the negotiations to sign him to an extension because the true extent of the injury should be clear by the middle of summer when the extension will be signed. Obviously, if some new and unexpected issue arose with Andrew’s long team health, that changes the situation completely. But assuming the injury heals and Drew gets medical clearance, he will be signed to a contract very similar to Dwight Howard. Other than Howard, there is no other center prospect out there, including totally unproven Greg Oden, who is as good as Andrew is right now or has the long-term potential to become great as Andrew.

It has been so long since we saw Andrew play that we forget just how dominant a player he had become before his injury. The string of other top flight big men that Drew had taken to school in the first half of the season was enough for Jerry West and Kobe Bryant to declare that the Lakers had the best team in the league BEFORE trading for Pau Gasol. Stop a minute and think about that. You have a 20-year old phenom who has turned into an unstoppable force on offense and the boards and a potentially league-best shot blocker and defensive force. Drew already has the best hands and footwork of any big man in the game and a work ethic and basketball IQ modeled after Kobe Bryant.

Charles Barkley made the key point last night after the Utah game that Andrew Bynum already has established what his offensive and defensive games are, unlike most other young players who return from injury. Assuming he is fully healthy, there is no reason not to expect this young man to become the Lakers next great center and franchise player. While Pau Gasol gives the Lakers enough talent at center to compete for a championship, the Lakers still need the height, size, length, and athleticism of Andrew to truly build another Lakers dynasty. The Lakers know this and Andrew Bynum’s people know this. There is only one move for the Lakers to make and that is to sign Drew now before he becomes even more expensive. The fact that Drew missed half of the year will help the Lakers keep the offer reasonable but no way do they not recognize that Drew is a true max player in the same way that Kobe and LeBron are. He has the potential to be a far greater center for a far longer time than Shaq. He will be another Kareem IMHO.

Tom

I saw Turiaf doing some pushups during Game 2. So it's probably a part of a bigger inside joke.

lakersnrefs,

It's interesting that you should mention statistics like attempted free throws and made free throws and who led the league in attempts and so on. While at the same time you're ignoring statistics like the Jazz shooting percentage from the floor (44.6%). You must've also forgotten the fact that the Lakers shot a better percentage (57.4%) while attempting a STAGGERING 33 fewer shots.

The difference between the stats you provide as evidence for a loss and that stats that I provide is that your stats place the blame somewhere other than the players.

Learn to accept the fact that the Jazz players are being outplayed and they're not as good as the Lakers.

Maybe you should start a support group. Then you and the Funs and Queens fans can all cry together about how the referees and David Stern are against you.

Crybabies.

Snort

Mr. Miller,
normally, i'm hesitant to take up with pigs, but right is right. and YOU sir are correct in your assessment of the last game that includes shooting percentage, a very important stat.

the fact is, that the Lakers were having their way with Utah, which made the Jazz need to foul to prevent layups and easy baskets. this also created frustration, which led to silly Jazz fouls.

on the defensive end, the Lakers were able to disrupt Utah's game everytime it was necessary. once they established dominance in the 1st quarter, the game was over. all that was required for the rest of the game was to continue to sit upon the Jazz's chest.

an analogy would be a wrestling match with your little brother. first you pin him, and then he struggles mightily to free himself. meanwhile, you yawn, watch tv, talk to your freinds while he gets all red faced. yes, you could beat him much harder, but that wouldn't be cricket would it? also, in this case, we need to stay healthy and win 4, to win 4 and then 4 more....

let's see if the Lakers can stay focused and healthy. i pray they do.

Go Lakers!

A poll where you can vote on the remaining NBA Playoffs:
http://proxy.espn.go.com/chat/sportsnation/polling?event_id=3484

Results so far of who will ultimately be the champion:

10) Which team will win the NBA title?

29.4% Los Angeles Lakers
27.7% Boston Celtics
13.0% Detroit Pistons
10.0% New Orleans Hornets
8.0% Cleveland Cavaliers
7.0% San Antonio Spurs
2.9% Orlando Magic
2.0% Utah Jazz

Total Votes: 68,557

man,

I'm not sure how to address that. You've confused my feeble mind with your tone. Either you're being sarcastic as a Jazz fan, or you're a cleverly disguised Lakers fan, or neither. In any case, it's about acceptance of the facts of the game, and not conjecture over what effects outside elements have on the contest. Games are won and lost by player execution and coaching strategy. Nothing more, nothing less. Referees are human and make bad calls, but in the end the proof is in the pudding, and the pudding is delicious for Laker fans these days.

Your friend Anthony "Pig" Miller

Kobe MVP?? what a joke - should have been Garnett - look what he did for the Celtics. Looking forward to a Celts-Lakers finals. Celts win in 4. And by the way Bird was better than Magic...

Yep. Chris Paul is awesome. About as awesome as Tony Parker, who played him to a standstill tonight.

The Lakers scheduling seems to give them a chance to learn from other teams' lessons. They can imagine themselves in the Hornet's place and think, we don't want to be in that position, and give our opponents any hope.

Anthony "Pig" Miller,

definitely a Lakers fan....
i just liked your post.

[lots of laughing]

definitely, the refs can control the game, but that has nothing to do with a genuine Laker beat-down of the Jazz. the reason for the foul call disparity was first and foremost that the Lakers were the aggressor and were in control of the tempo and game.

Can we add John Barry to the TJ Simers Douchebag list? That dork is the biggest Laker hater on TV. The one glorious year that guy had in his carreer was a year he landed on the Lakers in '98 and jinxed the Laker's (61 one wins, 1st in Pac division) who lost to the Jazz in the conference finals.
What does he lend to a broadcast? Oh, wait, he gives us the pathetic losers' perspective. Now I get it! They should hire Doug Christie to co-host with him. They should call it Most Pathetic Athletes Ever.

Sorry had to get that off my chest.
Anyway I'm bmac I've been reading this blog for three years just don't contribute much as most topics are thoroughly covered. Love your posts!

If you don't mind, mamba24, I'd love it if you could throw me on the roll call.
* '08 NBA Champs - L.A. Lakers *

Tom,

I'd hate to say it, but there is no way that a guy who is injured for two straight years, missing close to 80 games over 2 seasons, putting up Samuel Dalembert or even early Kwame numbers gets the Howard extension with the knee issue. The big worry has to be whether the knee condition is degenerative. While agents can drive hard bargains, I think the Lakers know that Bynum will flourish (if he can stay healthy for even 60 games) in the offensive system and coaching staff we have.

Hopefully Mitch is smart enough not to put all our eggs one basket (no pun intended). Yet I will concede one point: The amount of money Andrew Bynum will command in contract negotiations, due to the "personal" nature of his relationship with the team, will be uncharted territory. Whether it will reminisce Dwight, Shaq, or even Kurt Thomas remains to be seen. My best approximation would be something similar to the Walton contract: Lots of years at a decent price. When Bynum proves that he can not just play in 40 games but actually start 60, he will command the big bucks. Until then, let's hope CAA keeps him busy.

THE BLESSING OF FISHER

think about it, last year he helped his team (jazz) beat his former team (warriors) in the playoffs

this year, he's doing the same thing for us with the jazz, and make no mistake we ARE going to win. .

Mamba, add me to all your bandwagons!!

I'm the director of tacos!! (unless someone else already is haha)

Kobe was on KCAL570 earlier with Petros and Money.

I've never heard Kobe more comfortable in an interview.

http://am570radio.com/cc-common/podcast.html

Here are some highlights, if you don't want to listen to the whole thing, or you can't get the audio for whatever reason.

-The Lakers didn't want to be a buzzkill with the all the energy in the building from Kobe's MVP award, so that provided some added motivation to win Game 2.

-Kobe's daughters were more excited to watch Michael Jackson's "Beat it" video in the car after the game than anything. It was if the MVP ceremony never happened.

-Kobe say Derek Fisher plays with a lot of heart and moxie.

-Kobe said that a light goes off in his head when a defender like Harpring guards him so close, because they both know Kobe can get by him, so Kobe presumes that the defender is trying to push him into a help situation. Kobe recognizes this and makes sure to read the floor, as that means his teammates will be open.

-Kobe says that committing to opting out of a contract (or not) well before the time comes is bad business in any situation, but still, he doesn't see himself going anywhere in the future.

-Kobe used to call Sasha "10:30" but this year, he's ready. Petros says that the national broadcasters claim that the nickname "The Machine" was self-given, but both Petros and Kobe refute that. Money says it was given by Stu Lance.

-Petros asks if the international diversity of the team helps the Lakers. Kobe say that it has been huge. He says that international basketball stresses ball movement, quick touches, a lot of it owing to the same strategies used in soccer.

-Money asks Kobe who he would vote MVP besides himself. Kobe says either Chris Paul or KG, a toss-up depending upon your criteria.

-Kobe is not surprised by the Hornet's success against San Antonio, as they are a good home team. (Seems spot-on, as NOH just lost on the road tonight.)

-Petros points out that Farmar and Mbenga have huge ears. Kobe laughs, and says that the teammates rip each other all the time in the locker room. Kobe says Luke has had the same size head since Luke was 8 years old.

-Petros talks about what women want for Mother's day. Petros tries to get Kobe to agree that women want "plans" not "things". (Apparently, Petros forgot he was talking to a guy who bought his wife a 5 gazillion dollar diamond ring to say "I'm sorry")

-Kobe says that Phil coaches according to the character of the team. Phil is more instructional this time around.

-Money wonders what Kobe will be doing in Utah for 4 days. Kobe say he will be bodyguarding Vlad, making sure he doesn't hit the slopes and snowboard.

-Kobe congratulates Petros on his engagement.

bmac,

You're absolutely right about Jon Barry being a Kobe hater.

Last weekhe named his Top 5 Lakers of all time and he picked Kurt Rambis and the usual Laker greats, but not Kobe.

WTF is he smoking??? If that doesn't reveal his anti-Kobe bias, I don't know what does.

Bmac,

Nice to meet you. I couldn't agree more about Jon Barry. As a matter of fact he's even more of a Spurs @$$ kisser than a Laker hater. The other day he was on an aftergame show (I forget which one) and was asked who the MVP of the playoffs was up to that point. The other two guys with him both said Chris Paul (a reasonable answer at the time). Jon Barry's response???? "I would have to say the entire Spurs team"

What a jackass.......

http://www.tmz.com/2008/05/08/big-and-tall-meets-pap-and-small/

mbenga on tmz

Anyway, off-topic guys, just wondering what Hollinger is doing right about now??? What kind of shenanigan tweaks his doing on his PER formula to accommodate Lebronze hideous play-off stats???

Another nice column in the Kobe love-fest, this one from Doug Krikorian from the Long Beach Press Telegram, who talks with Jerry West

http://www.presstelegram.com/moresports/ci_9200340
Interesting tidbit from Jerry West about Kobe's second pre-draft workout with the Lakers:

"That second one he had was a joke," related West. "We had him go one-on-one against Michael Cooper, who had been retired for a few years but who still was pretty good. Cooper was a great defensive player, but he just couldn't handle Kobe in that workout.

"Kobe was so far beyond his years from an athletic and ball-handling standpoint. He was incredibly creative, and you could see he already had developed a great work ethic. He didn't shoot the ball then as well as does now, but he's made himself into a great shooter. "

So, looking ahead to the next round, who would you rather see? The Spurs or Hornets?

AK,

I still fondly remember Elden holding down the fort while Shaq hurt his knee after colliding with Bullet's George Mureausan (SP??) So the dude didn't play well against Karl Malone, the whole Laker team got beat by the Jazz. Your underhanded comment really was uncalled for.

Centralk,

I never blamed the series loss on Campbell (or any other one player, for that matter). I just had forgotten how badly he shot in that game. 1-13 is pretty severe. I don't see what the problem is.

AK

who is that bunghole smacking and popping gum in the microphone during luke's interview?

so annoying!

Late night ephiphany:

The New Orleans Hornets are the new Phoenix Suns (pre-Shaq).

The only difference is that Paul is a better scorer than Nash, and a better defender. But Nash is a better shooter. Chandler's role is similar to Amare's. Pargo, Barbosa. Peja is a mixture of the three point shooters the Suns had. West is a better shooting Marion.

Even if the analogy doesn't fit exactly, it seems the same strategies used on the old Suns should work on the new Hornets. Namely, make the point guard become a scorer, don't double team. Let him go one on one, get his 30 plus points, but make sure to take his teammates out of the equation. That means keep tight to the 3 point shooters and the rollers off the pick and roll. Get the rebounds and stop the transition buckets.

The ball is so utterly dominated by the point guard in the Hornets and Suns offense, that if you make the point guard shoot all the shots, it disrupts that system and the other player's rhythms.

Faker nation, the sun has risen over your foul wins... perfectly building your confidence to a crescendo... right..before...the...falllllllll into the darkness and death that is energy solutions arena. The moon will rise high above the smoldering ruins of the faker franchise.. with only the sound of Jerry Sloan's boot upon your ashes to break the silence of your never-ending night... ah yes, the time has come. The refs cannot protect you any longer. Prepare for your doom.

Jazz 116 Lakers 92

In regard to the push-up tid-bit, it reminded me of a clip I seen with Luke and Ronny (& also Cook); they would battle at the charity stripe after practice and the guy with more bricks would have to drop down and kiss some hardwood. I think it was sometime back when Ronny, Socks and that Von Snyder teabag were still rooks... I just can't recall which show this was featured.

Man, that last game in Utah was a wire to wire MVP24 highlight reel. I watched it when I was in the Philippines for the Easter Holy week holiday and everyone, I mean everyone was fixated on the tube that morning. They really love our Lakers out there in the islands. Oh well, I'll be leaving from work early today to witness our boys put another clinic on the Bootah Jazz.

Laker Playoffs... where U N D E F E A T E D happens.

AK,

How dare you sully the perfectly angelic memory of Elden Campbell on the Lakers!

You blasphemer!

Well, if you're gonna cross post, I'm gonna cross post!

LakerTom,

As I always I appreciate your extremely well-articulated thoughts. Bynum looked great for a bit there, I agree. But to me, it seemed like maybe 2/3 of his season that didn't even last half of the season. To assume that with the many injuries he's had with the Lakers so far, particularly this last big one, he will even play for the Lake show more than 50 games a year seems highly presumptuous. Even with Bynum's flashes, I'm still more impressed with D-12, the youngest rebounding leader in NBA history. I see a significantly greater amount of risk with Bynum than I do with D-12 and I believe even at Bynum's peak, D-12 has still consistently outperformed him while still gradually improving his game (under the tutelage of the great Patrick Ewing).

I appreciate your GHF perspective on the kid and I can't knock it because anyone that predicted this season for the Lakers was a pretty hardcore GHFer.

I'm going to agree to disagree with you on this one.

I hope you're right and not me and that all the risk I see is just me playing the conservative old fogie (I'm not that old, but I can think that way, see?)--that same guy that didn't draft Amare very high in my fantasy league because of his pre-season knee surgery which was like the 4th in 3 years.

THERE WERE A LOTTA DUDE"S THAT DIDN'T PLAY SO WELL AGAINST ME................................... CAMPBELL WAS NO DIFFERENT................................THAN ANY OTHER DUDE THAT FOUND A MAILMAN THAT ALWAYS DELIVERS ! ! ! ! !

I'm sure this is going to tick off some Utah fans. But they did a Derek Fisher-Deron Williams split screen advertisement. I'm not a fan of most of the split screen ads. They seem a bit too stale with a very dry reading of the same words. But this is a tight pairing.

http://boss.streamos.com/wmedia/nba/nbacom/promos/nbat_9636_respect_fisher_williams.asx

btw, my apologies if this link screws up anyone's browsers. Long links like this screws up MY browser. But I figure it's worth the post.

Good Morning: Charles
Good Morning: JohnnyP. Bozz, Toad, Pig Miller
Good Morning: Hmrhead, JustAnotherMambaFan
The OutLaw, Vman, Nurse Faith
Good Morning to all Laker girls, Semi, Psyched, 1980, SF
Good Morning to the one and only LakerGurl

*_______________________________*
Year of Mamba Calendar Bandwagon
*______________________________*
(01) Happy Camper – Owner & Driver
(02) FairWeather Fatty – Creative Director
(03) Mamba24 – Lobbying for Month of Kwame on Calendar
(04) Jamie Sweet – Will make the pitch to Wall Street
(05) Janaya – Has bought 1000 shares in the Calendar business
(06) EdwinGueco – Convinced Mamba to pick up tab for Laker Blog dinner.
(07) JesterGuru - Thinks Cllaendar will sell at least 10 million.
(08) KobesBad – Had to convince Kobe it was good idea.

Bill Dwyer nailed it in his article. The amount of Kobe hero worship in this town is a very sad thing. Its basketball and he is a basketball player. He may be very good, but in the end he is a basketball player. Some of you might do well to remember this.

Good Morning Lakers Nation!

The Sun is rising

The birds are chirping

The coffee is brewing

And its another great day to be a Lakers fan.

Up and at 'em Laker Nation morning maniacs!!!!!

ITS BAME DAY!!!!!

JustAnotherMambaFan:"How lame is this? The music in the Garden (Celts game) is "if you're happy
and you know it clap your hands".... OMG - pitiful, patheltic, cheesy....."

LMAO! NOW THAT IS SOME FUNNY SH+T

Its time again for Mr. Fatty's Neighborhood

And the 'word' for today Lakers boys and girls is 'REVENGE'

Can you say 'REVENGE"?

After the classless fans of Utah disrespected our boy Fisher, Kobe and our Lakers will do a beatdown on the Jazz and get some 'revenge' in their house on those Neanderthals.

"Its a beautiful day in the Lakers Neighborhood, will you be, won't you be, my neighbor"

Mr. Fatty

Game Day, Lakers Nation.

This is going to be the toughest game of the series. If the Lakers can pull out the win tonight, they'll have trampled on the hopes of the Utah (Deconstructed) Jazz.

Here's to hoping that they do just that.

Kobe goes off for 38/12/8.
Lamar hits the glass hard and goes 16/14.
Walton comes up huge with 12/8/4.
And Gasol has his breakout game with 26/12/4.

Luke's right: The Lakers are almost better on the road than at home. They seem more focused. Let's see it tonight against a hostile team and crowd.

Lakers+Coltrane=Jazz deconstructed.

Go Lake Show!

*___________________________*
NBA Resistance is FUTILE
against the Lakers BANDWAGON
*___________________________*
(01) BK - Driver
(02) AK - Owner
(03) LAKERTOM – Turned the Borg into Laker Fans
(04) MAMBA24 – Not completely assimilated
(05) KOBESBAD – Turned the Borg Bad
(06) , JoninJAPAN(INCANADA) – Made Lebron vote Kobe MVP
(07) Jamie Sweet – Made David Stern Cry Uncle
(08) Edwin Gueco – Character of Picard based upon him
(09) Janaya – Beat Worf in arm wrestling.
(10) Pig Miller – Turned the Borg into trolls
(11) Fearless – Even the Borg fear him
(12) Nemaia Faletogo – Real Inventor of the Warp drive
(13) Milo Rambaldi – Team Prophet and starship captain
(14) TWoody – Defeated Borg in Hand-to-Hand combat
(15) JustAnotherMambaFan – Gave Worf a home with the Mamba family

Kobe MVP?? what a joke - should have been Garnett - look what he did for the Celtics.
Looking forward to a Celts-Lakers finals. Celts win in 4. And by the way Bird was better than Magic...
Posted by: SPC | May 08, 2008 at 09:38 PM

OMG! LMAO
____________________________*
I HATE The CELTICS BANDWAGON
*_____________________________*
(01) EastCoastJessie – Owner & Driver
(02) FEARLESS – Co/Driver
(03) LAKER TOM – CEO – Made an offer they couldn’t refuse
(02) Milo Rambaldi--Team Prophet.
(03) Mamba24 – East Coast Jessie’s BodyGuard
(04) LakerFaze – Taught KG how to Dunk
(05) TOAD – Once beat Larry Bird in a game of horse
(06) LakerMan420 – Told Red Auerbach where to put his cigar
(07) HmrHed – Blocked KG’s hook twice
(08) SIimLakerGirl – Reports directly to Jeannie Buss
(09) LakerLegacy – Made Red Auerbach bow down to 9Rings
(10) PigMiller– sent LARRY Bird back to French lick IND.
(11) JEFF - Was born hating the Celtics.
(12) #4 Not only born hating Celtics but will bequeath the hate to his heirs
(13) MarkyTheArky – Director of Mirrors and reflections
(14) JustAnotherMambaFan – Hates them
(15) THE_D – Thinks Celtics fans should go to AA meetings
(16) JON K. - Put the chokehold in the Celtics choking
(17) FLOYD – Fought with Jerry west over who hated Boston most
(18) NEMAIA FALETOGO - Fan of the Purple Hulk - No not K.G.
(19) KEIFO - Riding ShotGun
(20) CBuck - Played Horse with McHale and made him retire
(21) BZAR - Painted the Parquet floor Purple and Gold
(22) KOBESBAD - Put exploding cigars in Red Auebachs Humidor
(23) EDWIN GUECO – Shaved Danny Ainges hair while he was asleep
(24) JAMIE SWEET - Is not so sweet when it comes to Celtics

From the Salt Lake City Review Journal:

Sportz: Basketball:"This is da place"

'Answer me this'

Dear Answer me,

I saw in the paper that the owner of the Utah Jazz Larry Miller, will not be watching the game on Sunday, because of 'religious reasons'?

What the F*** is that all about? What religion teaches he can't watch a game, its some sort of sin?!! but then its OK to have someone else do it for him, like his wife, so she becomes the fall guy with God.

So Answer Me. What 'crazy $ss church' teaches something so silly and stupid as that?

Signed,

WTF is up with Utah?!!!

Answer Me: Dear WTF is up with Utah?!!!,

Your question, "What 'Crazy $ss church' teaches something so silly and stupid as that?

The answer would be the Jehovah's Witnesses

AK,

I've posted this previously, but I think it does warrant a second mention.

The depths from which Kobe has arisen are even greater than all the media pundits are writing. Kobe was zero for his last SIX, not four shots at the end of that Utah game. I'm quite sure I remember him air-balling two free throws as well.

He missed everything on SIX shot attempts. That's what Kobe is talking about. That is an experience that would destroy the psyche of any mere mortal player.

You see, the free throws are the most embarrassing aspect of that performance, IMHO.

Does anyone else remember that game the way I do? Or, have I just completely gone over the deep end?

--Fearless

Oh yeah,

BTW:

F the Celtics!

--Fearless

Good morning LAL friends!

It's GAME DAY!!
But it's also Trevor injury news update day.
Let's hope for the best with him. It would be great to have him if this goes longer than 4 games.

LET's GO LAKERS!

Good Morning, Laker Nation!

GAME DAY!

Time to stomp on their throats!

This will certainly be an exciting game. Utah will fight desperately. Lakers will play with the focus of avenging Derek Fisher.

Good times.

GO LAKERS!

*___________________________*
NBA Resistance is FUTILE
against the Lakers BANDWAGON
*___________________________*
(01) BK - Driver
(02) AK - Owner
(03) LAKERTOM – Turned the Borg into Laker Fans
(04) MAMBA24 – Not completely assimilated
(05) KOBESBAD – Turned the Borg Bad
(06) , JoninJAPAN(INCANADA) – Made Lebron vote Kobe MVP
(07) Jamie Sweet – Made David Stern Cry Uncle
(08) Edwin Gueco – Character of Picard based upon him
(09) Janaya – Beat Worf in arm wrestling.
(10) Pig Miller – Turned the Borg into trolls
(11) Fearless – Even the Borg fear him
(12) Nemaia Faletogo – Real Inventor of the Warp drive
(13) Milo Rambaldi – Team Prophet and starship captain
(14) TWoody – Defeated Borg in Hand-to-Hand combat
(15) JustAnotherMambaFan – Gave Worf a home with the Mamba family
(16) Jon K. -- In Charge of the Tractor Beam

GO LAKERS!

Jon K:"GAME DAY! Time to stomp on their throats!"
FairWeatherFatty" And the 'word' for today Lakers boys and girls is 'REVENGE'

NOW THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT!!! REEEVEEEEEENNNNNNGEEEE!!!!!

AK can't seem to get a break today.

GO LAKERS!

Stock:" Faker nation, the sun has risen over your foul wins... perfectly building your confidence to a
crescendo... right..before...the...falllllllll into the darkness and death that is energy solutions arena.
The moon will rise high above the smoldering ruins of the faker franchise.. with only the sound of
Jerry Sloan's boot upon your ashes to break the silence of your never-ending night... ah yes, the
time has come. The refs cannot protect you any longer. Prepare for your doom. Jazz 116 Lakers 92"

NOW THIS IS SOME FUNNY SH+T hahahhahahhahahaha! OMG!!! hahhahahhahhhhahaaaaa!
SWEET JESUS!!!! SOMEONE GET THIS MAN HELP IMMEDIATELY! hahahahahahhahaahha!

Good Morning Mamba24, Good Morning Charles, Jon K, Outlaw, Psyched, Fearless, Fatty, the Morning Maniacs, and A L L of the Laker Nation!

IT'S GAAAAAAAAAAAAME DAAAAAAAAAAAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

We're in their crib, the game will be called a bit differently, so we've got to be ready from the opening tip off.

FOCUS! INTENSITY! DEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEFENSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Win the first five minutes of the game, win the first quarter, shut the crowd up, get your feet on the Ja$$'s throats and NEVER LET THEM UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

LET'S GO LAKERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

10 TO 15!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

David Friedman,

Who peed in your Wheeties?

You're the kind of weenie who sits in the corner of a bar while people are cheering the Lakers and sneers, "This is SO juvenile."

Smug, self-righteous, self-absorbed, politically correct, soulless, faux intellectual losers like you can get your rocks off by rereading Camus's "The Stranger" over and over and over again as you languidly contemplate the nihilism of life and your "superior" understanding of it, but, me I'm going have a good time watching Kobe Bryant and our Lakers kick the crap out of the Utah Jazz tonight!

David Friedman! Get thee to a nunnery!

GO LAKERS!

Amazing Happens:"The ball is so utterly dominated by the point guard in the Hornets and Suns offense,
that if you make the point guard shoot all the shots, it disrupts that system and the other player's rhythms."

I never thought of that but you are absolutely right!

Caliphilosofer,

A question for you along the lines of "if a tree falls in the forest?"

If the Jazz fall to the Lakers on Sunday, lose the series in Game 4, and Larry Miller is not their to watch.

Will anybody care?

This deep thought is brought to you by Fatty

Mamba24

"Year of the Mamba Bandwagon". Nice.

And I'm pretty sure you could just include everyone who posts here (regularly) in the "I Hate the Celtics Bandwagon". It's a Los Angeles birthright, passed from generation to generation.

"Just Say No" to athletes wearing the green. And I'm Irish!

All hyped up coz it's game day! Good Morning Fam!!!

Fairweather Fatty,

One of my degrees is in the Study of Religion. And while I certainly have my strong opinions about logic, validity, truthful spiritual practices within various religious systems of the multitude of religions on this planet, truth be told, almost every religion has some practice that doesn't make a lot of sense and this blog probably isn't the most appropriate place to engage in a debate based upon criteria for religious criticism.

GO LAKERS!

EEVEE:"Laker Playoffs... where U N D E F E A T E D happens."
QUOTE OF THE DAY!!! i SALUTE YOU EEVEE

Good Morn???? Ariza News. Scroll to the bottom.

http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?story_id=8626

http://tinyurl.com/5ehygj

Hi All,

I cant believe how all these media people trying to defend LeBron James on how poorly he is playing..19% !!!!!!! FG. They always blame it on his teammates. How his teammates arent worthy of playing in the NBA.

Didnt they forget that Kobe was also playing with Kwame,Smush, Cook...etc couple of years ago????But what did they say, Kobe is a ballhog. He is not making his teammates better....What if you can never make your teammates better because they scuk in the first place.

Dont give me that "Lebron got his team to the finals"....they were in the EAST!!!

Skip Bayless, TJ Simers are IDIOTs!!!..how they still employed with their respective company is beyong me.

GO LAKERS!!!!!

Ron

I was actually at that game where Kobe shot the airballs pointers. Van Exel was really lighting them up for most of the game and Shaq had fouled out. Kobe was sort of thrown in there to try and make something happen, and he hadn't played a lot in the series up to that point as I remember it. The shots were as the clock was winding down and they were tightly contested.

The biggest problem the Lakers had at that time was they couldn't defend the pick and roll. Nick had absolutely no desire to fight through the screen and Shaq was not great about sliding laterally back and forth (still isn't). That's what really killed them in those series back then. Funny how Utah is still using the same offense with similar players but it sure is nice having Fish to fight on those screens, makes a huge difference now.

man,

Thanks for the nice reply. I always aim to please. Unless it's trolls, then I aim to free the blog of tyranny,

Gameday is great. Especially gameday Friday, because I can leave work and go straight to happy hour and commence revelry.

I'm looking forward to a spirited contest tonight, and the Lakers emerging victorious. The focus on this team reflects Kobe in every way. Kobe and the Lakers will not be denied.

Lakers: Alot - Jazz: Not as Many

Oink Oink

P.S.

Stop talking about my old teammate Elden Campbell. He and I ruled the paint in '94 - '95 as Lakers. Too bad we lost to the Spurs in the playoffs. I hate the Spurs.

I'm Daniel Plainview and Manu Ginobli is my brother that's not my brohter that I end up shooting in the face.

The countdowns begun and it’s so fine
After tonight we will be down to nine
Nine games that is and then you’ll see
The beginning of The Lakers 4th Dynasty
All of the Blog family is beginning to appear
Even Stevie Wonder could see it’s The Lakers year
Alas poor Phoenix, they have crashed and burned
They won’t rise from the ashes It’s the Lakers Turn
Fatty’s given the word and the word is REVENGE
So tonight the Jazz’s @ss is going to get singed
Jon K. says for us to stomp em in the throat
I say drop em in Salt lake and see if they float.
But I don’t hate the Jazz, they are nothing but a pest
But you can’t be soft if you expect to rule the West
Fans ask will the Hornets or the Spurs be the next foe
I say who gives a F, whoever it is they got to go
T.O says “Get Your Popcorn” this is going to be a treat
Sorry Jazz but tonight you are going to get beat.

Good morning Mamba24, good morning Charles, Fatty, Toad, Fearless, JonK, etc etc etc GOOD MORNING LAKER NATION!!!!

Rise & shine cuz it's GAME DAY BABY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Mamba24 - please make sure I get on the "Year of the Mamba" bandwagon - job description up to you! I have to say I'M VERY GLAD YOU'RE BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Fatty - you posted "Your question, "What 'Crazy $ss church' teaches something so silly and stupid as that?
The answer would be the Jehovah's Witnesses"
Fatty - I've studied with them & haven't heard anything like that - have you? Curious...

ANYHOO...............I'ts T minus approx. 11 hours and counting. Fire up the BBQ - put on the side dishes - get the tacos going - we're going to have some fun tonight!!!! I'm glad it's going to be on K-Cal - I don't think I could take another game with those idiot commentators from TNT or ESPN - seriously....they're making Joel & Stu look really good.

Also - I think we should add Dwyre along with John Barry to the TJ Simers Douchebag list like bmac suggested. That guy's another hater / dork / tool / troll.....pick a word.....

Finally - I am so glad the Spurs won last night. Those guys need to beat up on each other a little longer. I also agree that they will be easy enough to control by making C3PO a scorer & stay at home with his teammates. WE ARE GOING TO A PARADE THIS YEAR, PEOPLE!

GO LAKERS!

THE BEAN FOR FINALS MVP OR NO PEACE!

NO CHAMPIONSHIP - NO PEACE!

Saw end of Celtics game the other day. They were playing the Bee Gees. At the end of an NBA playoff game. Seriously.

How annoying and out of touch is Boston? Even the addition of KG, who is always on the list of the top 25 coolest people on the planet, cannot save that puseous boil of a franchise from its backward-looking fans.

Boston fans remind me of people who are in love with Dickensian London. You, the kind who own a cape, collect cats and feign Briticisms on a regular basis. I'm not a violent person, but I have to admit to an overwhelming urge to slap such people.

K Brothers,

When will we receive the Trevor Ariza update?

GO LAKERS!

Good morning Laker family.

Tonight we face yet another test in this fun, amazing season.

I am filled with questions this morning. How will our boys react to the hostile environment? Can the Spanish Prisoner (sorry, but that's what that beard makes him look like) withstand the punishment. Will the Bench Mob make it's presence felt, or will it wilt under the intense pressure? Will The Paperboy Deliver?(seriously, Sasha looks like he's about 12) Can we execute our offense? Can we do it without Kwame???? (couldn't resist)

Say it with me... Helllllllllllll YES!!! This team is perfectly capable of great things. Tonights win will elicite a collective "gulp" from all of the other pretenders left in the 2008 playoffs. We shall shut up the haters and no good dirty debaters (yet again!!). Bow down suckas!!! Bow in the presence of greatness!!!

Mamba, put me on a wagon.... ANY wagon. I'm feeling it mannnnnnnnnn.

What a morning.

I can feel it in the air.

Mamba24 in the house.

We've had some great Fatty posts already.

We've had Fire32 masquerading as a Jazz fan.

It doesn't get any better than this.

Anyone has a link for the story of Lebron leaving 10 dollars tip on a 800 bucks bill? I heard it on Dan Patrick's this morning but can't find the source on line.

Hey SPC
You wanna know what's a real joke? That your MVP candidate in the first seed took 7 games to beat the 8th seeded hawks, while the Lakers swept out the Nugs and are handling the Jazz.

An even bigger joke? That you think you have a winner in Paul Pierce who mailed it in with his franchise's blessing so that they could admittingly TANK it! (did you see how chubby he got?) way to keep motivated..

The day you ever see Kobe do that is the day you'll see him commit suicide. Bird was a great shooter. Magic was a great everything. The hell are you smoking?

This will be a good test of how resilient this Laker team will be. In my own silly mind, I saw the Lakers as quite resilient on the road this year, in big games.

I don't see them as overconfident, as some of our championship-deprived opposition sees it, because I don't think the Lakers team feels respected as of yet. Everyone is looking for them to fall, especially away from home.

I definitely think we have to find new wrinkles to our offense, but they are there. Pau's jumper isn't falling. Neither is Rad's 3's. Jordan isn't good against Deron, but match him up against their 2nd string, and I'm sure he'd be fine.

We have room to improve, and we have player that know they have to improve. The Lakers can do it.

Let's go Lakers!!

SPC-

Bird was better than Magic???

I gotta imagine you won't respond since the short little bus has probably delivered you to school already. Did you remember to wipe down the slobber you left on the window? Is your football helmet on too tight!?!?!?

Put down the pipe little buddy. Crack it whack!!! Just say noooooo!

Or at least share! Sheesh!

Freakin' buckethead! Get offa our blog. Unless you've got something intelligent to discuss, we don't want you or need you!

Bummer news on Trevor....hopefully they don't shut him down like they did with AB. Jon K. - the news link is up above.

That Lebron link is www.clevescene.com - you have to hunt around for the story

Hopeing my tivo works tonight - I will be flying back to CA during game.

I want big boards from LO tonight and double figures from 4/5 starters. I am thinking Jordan has a break-out night for some reason and am going with a big LAL win - they have the fire!!

LET's GO LAKERS!

Hi Jon K

My parody had to do with the Larry Miller story that is on every sports wire service in the country.

Its bizzare of him to do it, (Which is why to all the publicity) and I find hypocritical of him to have his wife check for him.

The story is very relevant to this blog.

By the way, didn't you make a Utah polygamous remark yesterday?

Justamambafan

Larry Miller is a Mormon. The story by some is viewed as embarrassing to the church, and that's why ' Answer Me' deflected attention away from the church and blamed another competing religion. Sorry, I guess if you have to explain a joke, then its too complicated. Thanks for your question.

Magic Man"I gotta imagine you won't respond since the short little bus has probably delivered
you to school already. Did you remember to wipe down the slobber you left on the window? I
s your football helmet on too tight!?!?!?Put down the pipe little buddy. Crack it whack!!! Just say noooooo!"

ROFLMAO!!!!!!!

My money's on "Pig" Miller over Larry Miller on a TKO.

"Bill Dwyer nailed it in his article. The amount of Kobe hero worship in this town is a very sad thing. Its basketball and he is a basketball player. He may be very good, but in the end he is a basketball player. Some of you might do well to remember this."
Posted by: David Friedman

I think you missed the point of the article.

Ariza out for the rest of the Jazz series. Bad news. What is in the water in LA??? The recovery time on injuries has been ridiculous this year. Damn. Some of you don't think this matters, and believe that the Lakers will continue to destroy the Jazz in this series. I hope you are right, but I think you are wrong. Jazz are just a different team at home. And remember, they were within 5 in the final minutes of Games 1 and 2. I am worried we are in for a long one.

Regardless...let's go Lakers, prove me wrong and slam the door tonight!!!

Fairweather Fatty,

I don't think I did. I'll have to check. I sometimes do vomit out inappropriate stuff in the heat of the moment. I call it blog turrets.

GO LAKERS!

Fairweather Fatty wrote:

"Answer Me: Dear WTF is up with Utah?!!!,
Your question, "What 'Crazy $ss church' teaches something so silly and stupid as that? The answer would be the Jehovah's Witnesses"

I have been one of Jehovah's Witnesses for almost 25 years. And I can assure you there exists no such prohibition against watching professional basketball or other sports on Sundays taught by them.

I am usually only a lurker here, though I enjoy reading the comments in the blogs all in the spirit of fun. I have also been an ardent Laker fan since at least 1977. And I think we can all celebrate the team’s great run here without resorting to such prejudiced statements against religion. Particularly so, when they are grossly inaccurate like this one here.

Now let's get back to discussing basketball shall we?

Posted by: Amazing_Happens
"Late night ephiphany:

The New Orleans Hornets are the new Phoenix Suns (pre-Shaq).

The only difference is that Paul is a better scorer than Nash, and a better defender. But Nash is a better shooter. Chandler's role is similar to Amare's. Pargo, Barbosa. Peja is a mixture of the three point shooters the Suns had. West is a better shooting Marion.

Even if the analogy doesn't fit exactly, it seems the same strategies used on the old Suns should work on the new Hornets. Namely, make the point guard become a scorer, don't double team. Let him go one on one, get his 30 plus points, but make sure to take his teammates out of the equation. That means keep tight to the 3 point shooters and the rollers off the pick and roll. Get the rebounds and stop the transition buckets.

The ball is so utterly dominated by the point guard in the Hornets and Suns offense, that if you make the point guard shoot all the shots, it disrupts that system and the other player's rhythms."
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I have this same idea and concept all year with the hornets. The hornets success rest squarely on CP moving the defense around to create easy shots wide open shots.

Hollinger finally had something smart to say:
"San Antonio had the opposite strategy. The Spurs allowed New Orleans to get big games from Paul and West (23 points, 12 rebounds) but took the Hornets' secondary players out of the game. New Orleans made just two 3-pointers on only 11 tries, partly due to Popovich's strategy of switching Bruce Bowen onto Peja Stojakovic. Only three Hornets scored in double figures."

SA took away the drive and dishes by going one on one with CP and sticking to the outside shooters. CP is smart so he doesn't force the issue by still trying to pass to the open man. The end result is lesser output from easy baskets and easy 3 points shots from the NO 3-point shooters.

This team is easy to play against.. Let CP3 have his points.

LoveTheLakeShow | May 09, 2008 at 12:39 PM

Please see my comment at 9:53

You must have missed it before you went on your rant. It should clear up your misunderstanding of my comment.

The Larry Miller story has been on all the Sports sections. Its relevant to the blog. The 'Answer Me' character that I created was meant to humor. He was trying to deflect attention away from the Mormon church and onto a competing religion by blaming another.
(I first heard the joke on the Johnny Carson show many years ago, a Mormon blaming the Witnesses.)

You don't know me from anybody but made a rather judgmental comment without getting all your facts in order. Sorry for your shortcomings.

My suggestion to you, is try to get your facts straight first, ask a question if you are confused, don't react negatively, don't be so judgmental of others, and don't take life so seriously.

Were here to have fun.

Fairweather Fatty wrote:

"You must have missed it before you went on your rant. It should clear up your misunderstanding of my comment."

Believe me, there is no ranting involved here. I'm too old for it nowadays. But it did clear up my understanding of your comment however.

F.F.--"The Larry Miller story has been on all the Sports sections. Its relevant to the blog. The 'Answer Me' character that I created was meant to humor. He was trying to deflect attention away from the Mormon church and onto a competing religion by blaming another.
(I first heard the joke on the Johnny Carson show many years ago, a Mormon blaming the Witnesses.)"

Then maybe it would have been helpful if you would have prefaced it with "as the old Johnny Carson joke once went" or some other. Unless you somehow expect everyone to be automatically familiar with this particular Carson show episode.

F.F.--"You don't know me from anybody but made a rather judgmental comment without getting all your facts in order. Sorry for your shortcomings."

I lay no claims to perfection, and I apologize for not being up to date on this particular Carson joke. Since I never really watched the show myself. But correction is not judgmentalism. Though I realize in today's "nobody is ever wrong" world, any form of correction or council to others is usually viewed as such.

F.F.--"My suggestion to you, is try to get your facts straight first, ask a question if you are confused, don't react negatively, don't be so judgmental of others, and don't take life so seriously."

Thank you, now in turn may I offer you a few suggetions. If it walks like a duck and acts like one, it's a duck. Your words seem plain enough with no way to determine you were alluding to an old Carson line. And I think if you were to substitute almost any other religion besides the regularly insulted Jehovah's Witnesses in the punchline, you would get a far more negative result than anything from me.

Again correction is not judgemental. And I do not take everything in life so seriously. The fact that I hang around these blogs is proof of that.

F.F.--"Were here to have fun."

Now on this I agreee with you 100%

AGAPE to you;

And GO LAKERS!

Lovethelakeshow

: "try to get your facts straight first" - you didn't

: " ask a question if you are confused" - you didn't

: "don't react negatively" - you did

"don't be so judgmental of others" - you did

: "don't take life so seriously" - you do

Fairweather Fatty wrote:

"try to get your facts straight first" - you didn't

Outside of being unaware of some obscure joke on the old Johnny Carson show. I can only interpret the facts as you present them.

" ask a question if you are confused" - you didn't

I saw no reason to question. Your words seem to speak for themselves.

"don't react negatively" - you did

How else was I suppose to act when my religion was disparaged. Jump for joy?

"don't be so judgmental of others" - you did

You appeared to be making a false claim about the beliefs of Jehovah's Witnesess. And I attempted to correct you is all. That is not judgement but simply a matter of correction or setting the record straight.

"don't take life so seriously" - you do

I assure you I don't. Otherwise I would never visit or enjoy fun blogs such as this. However your crack on religion admittedly struck a sour note with me. And it's really as simple as that.

Again AGAPE;

And GO LAKERS!

LoveTheLakeShow

You got some problems dude.

No one disparaged your religion. It was a joke.

And even if you didn't get the joke, why would someone be so upset, if they thought someone felt their religion doesn't watch sports on Sunday?

Now JW's are famous for what? Talking about their faith, right? So instead of blowing a gasket, wouldn't you want to take the opportunity to explain things in a kindly manner, instead of vindictively attacking others.

If I wanted to disparage your faith, I would've said something like, you guys don't do Christmas stuff which would be bad on my part.

But I didn't. This is just sports man. I made a simple statement through a fictional character. It was an obvious joke, and you over reacted.

One more lesson for you.

One person here, who is not a JW, asked a question to understand it better. You could learn from him. You stated that you've been a JW for 25 years, and this person said he has only studied? with the JW's in the past for a few months.

He had a humble approach. I would take a good look at his approach, you could learn something.

Side note: Most JW's I know don't have time to watch Sunday sports with church and door to door visiting stuff.
Side note #2: I asked my sister who is long time JW to read the post in question. She thought it was quote,"thats way too funny" She said you have 'head problems?" I didn't get it, she didn't explain.

Fairweather Fatty wrote:

"You got some problems dude."

Actually, all of humanity has problems. Thus the nature of sin. However, I don't see a problem I have in this specific area.

F.F.--"No one disparaged your religion. It was a joke."

And one I thought was in poor taste. Simply because you make a joke I have to like it or otherwise I have a problem and being judgmental?

F.F.--"And even if you didn't get the joke, why would someone be so upset, if they thought someone felt their religion doesn't watch sports on Sunday?"

But I'm not upset over it, you just keep insisting I am. I assure you I'm perfectly calm. (well... maybe not "perfectly" calm after watching the Lakers fall tonight :) ). I saw you making what I felt was a false claim about my faith and attempted to correct it, end of story. Now you are the one who keeps trying to persecute me over it.

F.F.--"Now JW's are famous for what? Talking about their faith, right? So instead of blowing a gasket, wouldn't you want to take the opportunity to explain things in a kindly manner, instead of vindictively attacking others."

Again, I haven't blown anything nor have I attacked anyone. You merely interpret it that way. And I don’t see how much more civil I could have responded. You made a joke which I thought was wrong and in poor taste. And I tried to offer a humble correction to your sarcastically put view.

So now you are jumping all over me about it.

F.F.--“If I wanted to disparage your faith, I would've said something like, you guys don't do Christmas stuff which would be bad on my part.”

I disagree. As I stated earlier, try placing almost any other religion in the punch line of your joke and I wager you would receive a far greater vehement response than anything I would ever come close to.

F.F.--"But I didn't. This is just sports man. I made a simple statement through a fictional character. It was an obvious joke, and you over reacted."

I am not the one overreacting you are, yet persist in placing the blame on me. And it is precisely because this is "just sports" which is why religion has no place in it, jocularity notwithstanding.

F.F.--One more lesson for you.

Not that I feel I really need one, but go ahead...

F.F.--"One person here, who is not a JW, asked a question to understand it better. You could learn from him. You stated that you've been a JW for 25 years, and this person said he has only studied? with the JW's in the past for a few months."

"He had a humble approach. I would take a good look at his approach, you could learn something."

You mean Jon K's response at 8:15 AM? The way I read his post was that he tried to advise you that this blog was not the appropriate place for such religious debate and comments. Then you attempted to point out his hypocrisy in your post at 9:53 AM about some earlier reference he made to Mormon polygamy.

Therefore, whatever Jon Ks humility was, you sure didn’t seem to appreciate it very much on your part.

F.F.--“Side note: Most JW's I know don't have time to watch Sunday sports with church and door to door visiting stuff.”

The “Congregations” (not “churches”) and “field service” (the "door to door visiting stuff" as you put it) meet and take place at various times thoughout the week depending on the particular congregation.

And I seldom watch sports or hardly any other television live anyhow, but DVR most of my material for later viewing in the evening.

F.F.--“Side note #2: I asked my sister who is long time JW to read the post in question. She thought it was quote,"thats way too funny"

I'm sorry, but I do not share her sense of humor on this one.

F.F.--“She said you have 'head problems?" I didn't get it, she didn't explain.”

If what you say is true about her being a long time JW. Then it is most regrettable your sister would make such an insulting remark against a fellow brother in Christ this way.

And I would have to say in all her long tenure as a Witness she obviously didn’t learn very much based on a comment like that.

AGAPE;

GO LAKERS! (though not tonight unfortunately :( )

lovethelakeshow

Either you are joking with me or you have some serious issues man

You also now are trying to distort what I said. Go back and read the entire 9:53 comment. It only refers to Jon K in the first part, its the second part that explains the comment.

I made a simple fictional post, then you over reacted and went into a long rant.

When I posted the explanation, youstill refused to read the 9:53 comment for clarification and then continued on another long rant.

My last post was an effort to help you grow as an individual, and is why I took the time to post it, and 'yet' you continued to neither read the 9:53 post or ignored the important part which would explain my original comment.

Obviously you are embarrased at your original actions and explains why you are responding in such an irrational manner. Most of the JW's I know are a kind, humble people, have a good sense of humor, and treat people respectfully. They are willing to reason honestly as they try to explain their beliefs. They are not insulting, even on perceived slights

You need to look at the big picture, what and who you are representing. You need to look at each opportunity to help and be a witness to your faith, not to excuse and abuse.

You boasted, we should trust you, because you have been a JW for 25 years. If my sister in mentioning 'head issues' after reading just a few of your posts, means you lack humility, then she is right.

Take the suggestions and counsel to heart, you'll be a better person for it.

Fairweather Fatty wrote:

“Either you are joking with me or you have some serious issues” man

Or there is a third option, that I simply did not like your joke about religion at the time. Which I also thought was inaccurate. And offered a correction. Your statement above is called setting up a "false dichotomy."

F.F.--“You also now are trying to distort what I said. Go back and read the entire 9:53 comment. It only refers to Jon K in the first part, its the second part that explains the comment.”

My point was, since you appear to have such an overriding concern for humility. You did not appear to display much of it in response to his Jon K’s advice there. Instead you tried to justify it by pointing to his previous mention of Mormon polygamy along with your explanation of your joke which followed.

Why couldn’t you have simply agreed with Jon K and say “Your right, let’s leave religion out of this and get back discussing the Lakers and sports” or something if you were truly interested in humility?

Or why couldn’t you have simply told me that “Hey it was meant as a joke, and it may not have been the best choice for one. Sorry if I offended, and let’s move on?"

But no, you just keep going on and on insisting you are right and trying to fault me on everything. Yet you want to council me on humility, but I guess you don’t feel the rule applies to you as well.

F.F.--“I made a simple fictional post, then you over reacted and went into a long rant.

“When I posted the explanation, youstill refused to read the 9:53 comment for clarification and then continued on another long rant.”

“My last post was an effort to help you grow as an individual, and is why I took the time to post it, and 'yet' you continued to neither read the 9:53 post or ignored the important part which would explain my original comment.”

Again, there is no ranting and overreaction involved here, I left all that sort of adolescent behavior behind in my teenage years. And I see no real need for any growth here. You made a joke, which I didn’t think was good or correct and I offered a correction. And you can’t seem to live with that.

F.F.--“Obviously you are embarrased at your original actions and explains why you are responding in such an irrational manner. Most of the JW's I know are a kind, humble people, have a good sense of humor, and treat people respectfully. They are willing to reason honestly as they try to explain their beliefs. They are not insulting, even on perceived slights”

Kindness, humility, respect, and having a good natured sense of humor does not obligate one have to like or agree with everything people may do or say all the time. And if you perceived what I said in response as insulting or not humble, then I’m sorry, but I made it in the most modest way I know of.

F.F.--“You need to look at the big picture, what and who you are representing. You need to look at each opportunity to help and be a witness to your faith, not to excuse and abuse.”

No I'm afraid you need to see the “big picture.” Why is it necessary for me to lovingly agree with your joke or attempt at its explanation to be a good representative of my faith?

Or for that matter why do I have to necessarily love or take as humorous everything people do or say in order to be humble or grow as an individual?

F.F.--“You boasted, we should trust you, because you have been a JW for 25 years.”

I intended no such boast of trust, but simply wish to point out that after some 25 years as a JW I think I’m qualified to speak on what they believe in or not.

F.F.--“If my sister in mentioning 'head issues' after reading just a few of your posts, means you lack humility, then she is right.”Take the suggestions and counsel to heart, you'll be a better person for it.”

If what your sister meant by “head issues” was that I have a mental problem, which is usually what that expression indicates. Then that would be insulting. But if she meant a lack of humility by it as you suggest. Then I respectfully disagree with her and would put the same question to her.

Why must I embrace your joke as funny and appropriate in the spirit of Christian humility?

AGAPE;

And GO LAKERS!

Lovethelakeshow

Now I now for sure you are mentally disturbed, which would explain your rants.

I'm starting to doubt you really are a JW as you claim you are. JW's don't act to mislead and lie, like you do. And don't they do the home visiting on Saturday AM? As least the good ones do, right?

If you really are mentally off, then you have my sincerest apologies. You can't help what you do and are need of help that I can't offer.

Did I tell you my latest joke? About a person who thinks he's a JW......aw, you wouldn't get it any way!

Fairweather Fatty wrote:

"Now I now for sure you are mentally disturbed, which would explain your rants."

If anyone is displaying mentality unstable behavior here, I’m sorry to say it is you. Since you appear to have such a highly exalted view of your jokes and opinions and dismiss anyone who disagrees with them you as “ranting,” and judgmental. You are totally blinded to any faults you may have.

F.F.--“I'm starting to doubt you really are a JW as you claim you are. JW's don't act to mislead and lie, like you do.”

You made a religious joke I took exception to is all. And you apparently find that intolerable that I refuse find the humor in it. So there’s nothing to lie or mislead about it.

F.F.--I'm starting to doubt you really are a JW as you claim you are. JW's don't act to mislead and lie, like you do. And don't they do the home visiting on Saturday AM? As least the good ones do, right?

Wrong. As I explained earlier, congregational meetings and field service times vary depending on location and personal situations. Saturdays are indeed a main day for the field ministry for most congrgations, but not all the time and not on every Saturday.

F.F.--“If you really are mentally off, then you have my sincerest apologies. You can't help what you do and are need of help that I can't offer.”

I appreciate your concerns. Insulting and condescending as they may be. However I have no need or want of your sincere apologies thank you. And I would recommend you eschew the field psychoanalysis. You’re apparently not very good at it.

F.F.--“Did I tell you my latest joke? About a person who thinks he's a JW......aw, you wouldn't get it any way!”

I’m happy to see that you really do not believe I am a Jehovah’s Witness. Since the distorted way in which you understand them, I am proud to say I am not one.