Albricias!
AK already relayed all the important information I relayed to him after practice via our Lakers Blog Hotline (also known as our cell phones), but to recap:
- Pau Gasol practiced fully today (or in his words, "Fully, fully, fully. Very fully.") and if all goes well, should be able to give it a run Wednesday night against the Blazers.
- Andrew Bynum was running today on the court, as opposed to his treadmill-from-the-future, which obviously means he was supporting 100% of his body weight... unless of course they had him suspended with elaborate rigging from the ceiling, Cirque du Soleil style, or simply pushed the treadmill up and down the court while he ran on it. Both seem unlikely, though Bynum left the building before speaking to the media. I'm hoping tomorrow they have him running with Sasha on his back, just so the team can say Bynum worked out at 160% of his total mass.
- By the way, when you listen to Phil, don't be confused. PJ is a notorious fountain of medical misinformation (Friday afternoon, there were reports of him selling this stuff out of a steamer trunk on the corner Lincoln and Santa Monica), and when he speaks of Bynum running on the treadmill at 90%, experiencing soreness, then dialing it back to 80%, Jackson is actually delivering yesterday's news.
"He still has a way to go to catch up with some of the guys, but I think he'll able to play tomorrow. We'll see how it reacts tomorrow morning," Jackson said of Gasol. And if he plays, he'll start. "It's one of those cases where you have to activate him before he goes out and plays, basically. I may not even bring him back after he plays one rotation." That Gasol could be back tomorrow doesn't mean the injury has healed completely. "He'll probably have swelling for the next six weeks. Anybody who's ever had a severely sprained ankle knows it just goes on and on. Eventually it subsides, but it's still going to be an issue for a while."
Bynum will go on the next roadie to Sacto and Portland. This will let him go through practices and shootarounds, helping him continue progressing in his recovery, keep up with new wrinkles on both ends of the floor, and "so he can get with his teammates and hang out a little with his teammates, so he can remember their names." Jackson made it pretty clear that given the length of his absence, Drew will have to practice fully before he'll be cleared to get back on the court. I would be surprised if he played Monday or Wednesday- very surprised, actually- but that he's running and ready to travel with the team is a very good sign.
I asked Phil how much work Ira Newble- signed for the rest of the season, if you missed the news this morning- would need in practice before he's ready to step in with meaningful minutes in a game. "Today he went out there and gave us a great practice. He was on Kobe and played him really tough in practice, and yet offensively there's still a space he has to be able to be able to fill and find his way there quickly, and that recognition is still a little bit out. We don't mind that. He'll still be able to function in a game if he has to go in, but it's not a natural thing for him yet."
So a few more practices, then? "Could be."
AUDIO:
- Phil Jackson, talking about all the stuff above, getting guys healthy before the playoffs, and the need for a day off, which they had yesterday: Download phil_jackson_4.1.mp3
- Pau Gasol, who addresses the injury, for the most part... though if you listen closely, you can hear me make a joke that falls totally flat, quite deservedly, I might add: Download pau_gasol_4.1.mp3
BK



The media is starting to court Chris Paul for the MVP, who will win the damn thing this year.
Notice how Lebron, the former NBA favored child, was on top of the MVP charts until he started publically hanging out with rappers and made the Vogue cover with the white woman? Disappeared from the radar, didn't he. No further comments needed.
As I predicted earlier, the Memphis and Charolotte losses cost Kobe Bean Bryant his MVP, and this was his best, and last, chance to ever win it. It's a shame they'll give it to such a young man over the veteran Kobe.
But, alas...there's always Denver.
Posted by: troy | April 02, 2008 at 06:30 AM
BK,
Thanks for your well thought out response. I wasn't endorsing either premise, just observing the quantity of comments about both topics. I have no idea about the validity of the questions regarding the medical staff. Personally, I prefer when the medical staff errs on the side of caution. But once the questions become part of the conversation, the new era of citizen journalism seems to require answers. Again, thanks for taking time to get back to me.
Posted by: Rick Friedman | April 02, 2008 at 06:55 AM
GAME DAY!!! Finally!
Hi LAL Friends - cheers AK/BK, Charles, mamba24, rick F, LakerTom, LTLF, Ladies Man etc.
LET's GO LAKERS!!
Posted by: PsychedLakerGirl | April 02, 2008 at 07:13 AM
Good Morning, Laker Nation!
Fully, fully, fully. Very fully.
GO LAKERS!
Posted by: Jon K. | April 02, 2008 at 07:35 AM
What I don't understand is that on the replay the Dirk injury looked REALLY bad, and yet he's only out for a few games, while Gasol's injury didn't look as bad and he missed nine games. Judging by how it looks on TV might not be the most accurate way to look at an injury, but it definitely has some correlation with the severity of the injury. Is it the training staff, like Phil Jackson said jokingly (or maybe not) or is it that our players are more injury prone?
Here's the video of the Gasol injury:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjTT4F05v24&feature=related
Here's the Dirk injury:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbpAh6U91kQ
Posted by: laker hopeful | April 02, 2008 at 08:22 AM
Lakers' 4 headed monster
Gasol
Benga
Mihm
Bynum
Posted by: xtro | April 02, 2008 at 08:26 AM
Good morning Mamba24, good morning Charles, good morning Pig & Toad & all the other Mamba's (welcome to the jungle) and good morning to the rest of this GREAT LAKER NATION!!!!
Mamba24 - I am present and accounted for sir, and waiting on roll call!!! WE NEED IT!!!
It's GAME DAY BABY! I thought the last few days would never end......lol!
Time to BBQ up some Trailgrazers, get our tacos on and dish up a side of troll - LET"S GO!
GO LAKERS!
The BEAN for MVP or NO PEACE!
Posted by: justanothermambafan | April 02, 2008 at 08:32 AM
game day....
GO LAKERS
Posted by: mrbarneydangles | April 02, 2008 at 08:34 AM
The reality to me is that the poor decisions and coaching style of PJ is significantly exposed when the top players are not in the game.........I mean realistly watching the lakers shoot 30 and 40 three pointers in the game only confirms the lack of direction from a coach.
Posted by: Dion | April 02, 2008 at 08:54 AM
Good Morning Guys,
That two day break felt like a week didn't it?
Posted by: Charles | April 02, 2008 at 08:59 AM
Korey,
I once saw Hollinger say on one of his chats that he doesn't have an MVP vote so we won't need to worry about him as long as the Lakers win out.
Posted by: Korey | April 02, 2008 at 09:09 AM
What about Ariza?
Posted by: Chad Ridgeway | April 02, 2008 at 09:11 AM
GAME DAY!!!!!!!!!!
WE ARE THE FREAKIN LA LAKERS THE WINNERS OF 14 SOON TO BE 15 NBA TITLES. OWNERS OF THE BEST WINNING PERCENTAGE IN NBA HISTORY!
Posted by: toad | April 02, 2008 at 09:14 AM
Here's a question:
Kwame Brown is riding the pine in Memphis. Do you think anyone will take a chance on him next year, or is he out of the league once the season ends?
If you think some team might sign him, please state who and why.
Posted by: LakerSeth | April 02, 2008 at 09:29 AM
I'm going to fight Ric Bucher soon. Anybody want in on that?
Seriously, when will that guy apologize or admit his blatant yellow journalism tactics over the summer? Even if he does support Kobe for MVP, I still think he's an a wipe.
Lakers win going away tonight. Pau will dominate Pryzbilla or Aldridge, even though hobbled.
I like the Lakers.
Posted by: "Pig" Miller | April 02, 2008 at 09:34 AM
laker hopefull;
What I don't understand is that on the replay the Dirk injury looked REALLY bad, and yet he's only out for a few games, while Gasol's injury didn't look as bad and he missed nine games. Judging by how it looks on TV might not be the most accurate way to look at an injury, but it definitely has some correlation with the severity of the injury. Is it the training staff, like Phil Jackson said jokingly (or maybe not) or is it that our players are more injury prone?
So like, you think you can diagnose the severity of an injury by viewing it on tv? If someone suffers a heart attack, it wouldn't LOOK bad on tv either, but I suspect it might be somewhat tougher to come back from than either Gasol's or Dirk's.
Come on people, let's make some sense here.
Posted by: machiavelly | April 02, 2008 at 09:47 AM
pslakerfan
Chest bump, you win a a 5 dollar shake! They don't put bourbon in it or nothin'.
Actually, like that Godfather, that film does work as a kind of Rosetta Stone of references for this Laker season:
After the Memphis loss: Naw man, I'm pretty f&^%in' far from OK.
Tonight's game (paraphrase): What now? Lemme tell you what now... I'mo call in a couple of heavy board hittin' ballers to go to work on the Blazers with a double double and a blow torch.
Posted by: Vman | April 02, 2008 at 09:48 AM
it would be interesting to hear what Phil's/Vitti's take is on preventing ankle injuries.
Maybe Gasol shoes arent laced as tight around the ankles? Maybe he needs to wear an ankle brace?
uuuhhh... how about.... DON'T STEP ON ANYONE'S ANKLES!!!
Posted by: machiavelly | April 02, 2008 at 09:52 AM
Simi Laker Girl,
Couldn't find you using a myspace search under augie5581.
Posted by: Rick Friedman | April 02, 2008 at 09:56 AM
Chuck 23
>>> I feel like PJ has cost us at least 8 games this season.
I totally agree. No disrespect to the coach's nine rings, but sometimes I simply don't understand what he is thinking.
Phil really doesn't use the bench to his best advantage. Witness how little he's used Mbenga until the last few games.
Posted by: Rick Friedman
you don't understand what he's thinking because he has nine rings and you don't.
Posted by: machiavelly | April 02, 2008 at 09:57 AM
Whether you're injured or not, when it's time to play, you gotta to defend the Lakers lair. Who is not hurting at this time of the year ~~
Fans are hurting for witnessing scrubby lakers role for three consecutive seasons;
Kobe is hurting and getting old too for carrying this team three consecutive seasons;
Role players are hurting, they wanted to contribute but their athleticism do not pare well with competition, they need support out there;
Therefore, if you can stand, run, shoot, jump, block shots ~~ get off from that lazy chair and HELP!
Laker players are made of muscles and bones with a metal heart not with Gary Vitti's marshmallows.
Posted by: Edwin Gueco | April 02, 2008 at 10:04 AM
Listening to PJ today at practice left me with the impression that he has no idea what to do with Ira Newble. Mentioned that Ira had good pratice guarding Kobe as well as some positive run on offense.
But all PJ can say about Ira is that we have to wait and see!
Can you believe this guy? I feel like PJ has cost us at least 8 games this season because of his don't have a clue what's going on substitution pattern.
He is so vague and inconclusive that it's a wonder that no one in the media has strongly called him on it.
Posted by: chuck23
alright chuck let me make this simple for you:
1) from reading your post, it is quite obvious that YOU are the one who doesn't have a clue about the substitution pattern
2) don't confuse Phil's vague inconclusiveness with your failure to understand what he's saying
3) sometimes, the 'wait and see' method is the best way to go; better that than to say something really stupid no?
Posted by: machiavelly | April 02, 2008 at 10:04 AM
Simi Laker Girl,
Couldn't find you using a myspace search under augie5581.
Posted by: Rick Friedman
hey rick, don't go chasing waterfalls..
Posted by: machiavelly | April 02, 2008 at 10:08 AM
LakerSeth,
I think Kwame would be OK as a low-priced back-up. I suspect that someone will sign him.
Posted by: exhelodrvr | April 02, 2008 at 10:12 AM
Rick,
The Lakers have always been slow to return from injury (I won't take that as far as to say slow to heal), because this organization has always erred towards a player's overall health and career versus the immediate need to win another championship. This philosophy has come down from the very top. I think Gary Vitti is just an extension of that. He does what his boss says.
However, the Lakers, except for Chris Mihm, have not really ever had players re-injure themselves after returning. The Lakers don't have a history of Mihms and Hills and Mannings, etc. It seems that whatever Vitti does, it is in the player's own physical best interest and it has shown great dividends for them over the years. Buss has NEVER rushed or even hinted at a player coming back early or even "as soon as possible". NEVER.
That may not be in the best interest of us, the fan. But, for the players involved, I think it is both admirable and the most ethical way to treat them.
PJ has been notoriously like that himself with every team he's coached (sometimes frustratingly so). But, no one in management on this team ever puts the team's present ahead of a player's future. That is the way I like it.
I always refer back to when both B Scott and Magic went down with Hamstring pulls in the Finals when they could have been the first team since the Celtics to three-peat. I always felt the Magic could have played in some diminished capacity (Scott's injury was WAY worse) if anyone had told him to. You know Magic is a warrior and would have at least given it a try. But, there wasn't anyway Buss was going for that, even though that championship was almost in hand. Everyone is better off for that sacrifice, don't you agree?
We are STILL #1 in our division. I see no need to rush anyone. We have shown an amazing capacity to "tread water" while we work through these injuries. That is all that was asked when these players went down. Plus, we play both of the teams in front of us, and thus are in control of our own destiny. We should take as much time as possible while still maintaining that opportunity to regain the number one slot. We only want the opportunity.
We may win both of those games and be number one, or lose one or two and wind up 2nd-4th. But, at least we would have had the chance, and our final seeding wouldn't be all that bad after all. But, in the meantime we would have avoided the real possibility of bringing in either player too soon and loosing him for a lot longer in the future, if not causing some other sort of damage.
Unlike BK, I will claim that our training staff is the best in basketball. I use the aforementioned as my evidence of such.
--FearlessWhackJob
Posted by: FearlessWhackJob | April 02, 2008 at 10:30 AM
PAU GASOL, the Catalan is going to play today. He possesses the Catalan character that will 'go forward' from Lakers struggles back to glory.
Here's the Catalan passion: The Catalan character seems to allow comparison with the virtues of the donkey: tenacity, determination, eagerness for the task and loyalty. These traits don’t limit themselves to the simple penchant for stubbornness that feeds the clichés. More literally, the Catalan population defines itself by the double value: ‘El senya i rauxa.’ The seny is comparable with wisdom, measured judgment and common sense – and the rauxa is defined as wit, the determination to suddenly see the capricious thought. The alliance between these two facets in one individual is the source of Catalan behaviour. The character conveys itself, it shares itself and it perceives itself popularly – its’ identity’s worth is certain. Used for a long time in North Catalonia and now channeled into the economy and in the spirit of rugby carried by the slogan ‘sempre endavant’ (always going forward) this character is what drives the success in South Catalonia (Barcelona). - Courtesy of Cataluna-Nord.com
Posted by: Edwin Gueco | April 02, 2008 at 10:38 AM
machiavelly,
I completely agree that PJ may have cost us between 4 and eight games this season. However, those eight games might be the overall reason we win the championship. PJ has always used the regular season as a preamble to the playoffs. He's had to coach a little differently in the second half this season only because the race is so tight and there isn't the same margin of error that there usually is towards the end of seasons. All those teams that we were all just so sure would fade, simply haven't.
If we still end up number one in the conference, what possible difference would those eight games have been? We were never going to get a better record than Boston, so what exactly is your point?
Besides, if we are number one in the conference, that means that we are entering the playoffs on a HUGE roll, having just felled the two other powerhouse teams in the West; we would have just demonstrated the ability to seamlessly integrate both Paul and Bynum back into the rotation together, while also easing them back in from injury; and that we would be demonstrating a new re-emphasis on defense like we saw on both big road trips this season.
If those things happen, what possible other benefit could those dropped games possibly mean? PJ has always been a big picture guy. Sure, he takes risks some of us wouldn't, but he's come out ahead an awful lot in his career.
And, usually, his risks involve trusting his players. Not a bad thing, usually, in my estimation.
--FearlessWhackJob
Posted by: FearlessWhackJob | April 02, 2008 at 10:39 AM
machiavelly-
Actually, what he said was that Newble did a nice job D'ing up Kobe, but that on the other end there are still a lot of things he needs to learn. Could he put him on the court? Yes, but Newble isn't yet able to quickly find his spots and operate in the offense.
Whether he eventually plays Newble or not, I can't predict (i feel like he'll start to get spot duty as time goes on), just wanted to clear that up.
BK
BK
Posted by: Brian Kamenetzky | April 02, 2008 at 10:56 AM
Rick Friedman,
Add it to the end of Myspace.com. (www.myspace.com/augie5581)
=)
Posted by: pslakerfan | April 02, 2008 at 11:03 AM
Rick Friedman,
>>>Couldn't find you using a myspace search under augie5581.
try http://www.myspace.com/augie5581
Posted by: Long Time Laker Fan | April 02, 2008 at 11:15 AM
BK and FearlessWhackJob
I think you misunderstood me. The comments you are responding to were cut and pasted from chuck23.
Just for the record (if there is such a thing) I have no problem with Phil's substitution pattern or Ira's lack of playing time.
Posted by: machiavelly | April 02, 2008 at 12:19 PM
Lakers better win tonight.
Posted by: STEVEN | April 02, 2008 at 01:14 PM
Rick,
“I'm obviously good with #1 and #2, but I'd rather not play the Warriors. That's been a really tough match-up.”
It’s only a tough matchup when we are missing Andrew and Pau. With our two starting seven-footers back, the Warriors are probably an easier matchup for us than the Nuggets or Mavericks, both of whom have more size. Even most of the local Bay area media fear the Lakers and would prefer the Warriors to face any other team in the first round.
Tom
Posted by: LakerTom | April 02, 2008 at 01:55 PM
Staples24,
“BYNUM/Mbenga/Mihm
GASOL/Turiaf
ODOM/Vlad/Walton/Ariza/Newbie
BRYANT/Sasha
FISHER/Farmar
Just give them the rings now.”
The only question is how many. That is an awesome starting lineup and roster. And maybe the greatest guard and center to ever play the game when it’s all said and done.
Tom
Posted by: LakerTom | April 02, 2008 at 01:59 PM
Chuck 23
>>> I feel like PJ has cost us at least 8 games this season.
I totally agree. No disrespect to the coach's nine rings, but sometimes I simply don't understand what he is thinking.
Phil really doesn't use the bench to his best advantage. Witness how little he's used Mbenga until the last few games.
Posted by: Rick Friedman
you don't understand what he's thinking because he has nine rings and you don't.
Posted by: machiavelly | April 02, 2008 at 09:57 AM
But what has he done lately?
Oh cost us championship chance by losing 3 games in a row to Funs with no adjustments! Could have been known as 10 rings by now.
Posted by: JustaLakerFan | April 02, 2008 at 03:40 PM
Listening to PJ today at practice left me with the impression that he has no idea what to do with Ira Newble. Mentioned that Ira had good pratice guarding Kobe as well as some positive run on offense.
But all PJ can say about Ira is that we have to wait and see!
Can you believe this guy? I feel like PJ has cost us at least 8 games this season because of his don't have a clue what's going on substitution pattern.
He is so vague and inconclusive that it's a wonder that no one in the media has strongly called him on it.
Posted by: chuck23
alright chuck let me make this simple for you:
1) from reading your post, it is quite obvious that YOU are the one who doesn't have a clue about the substitution pattern
2) don't confuse Phil's vague inconclusiveness with your failure to understand what he's saying
3) sometimes, the 'wait and see' method is the best way to go; better that than to say something really stupid no?
Posted by: machiavelly | April 02, 2008 at 10:04 AM
I have to agree with Chuck23. I think PJ has shown no willing to try something different. He has tools available but would rather over play and exhaust the team and play Luke obsessively even though I think Lukes ankles are still not fully recovered.
PJ may say all he wants whether outright or read between the lines and games. But what tells the story is inevitably his actions (or lack of) and decesions.
Again Ira was insurance for defense and if he is in the NBA then he must have some skills both defensively or offensivly or he would not be playing. There are thousands of good players who have not made it yet.
He's paid for so use him.
Posted by: JustaLakerFan | April 02, 2008 at 04:24 PM
IF the Lakers are healthy and can incorporate all their returning players and develop some continuity, I definitely feel they can handle any team in the West. Based on what I've seen all season long, the Lakers are the best and most complete team in the West. In fact the only teams I feel that they can't beat in a 7 game series are in the East. Boston or Detroit will represent a formidable challenge for whatever team emerges from the West.
As much as I despise the Celtics and Pistons, I have to give both teams their props. Doc Rivers has done a masterful job of developing his bench. He has waves of energy players to throw at the opposition. Leon Powe, Glenn Davis, Tony Allen, Eddie House are some serious role players. From day 1 this season, Boston has established a defensive identity that is borderline dirty, but thoroughly intense. Detroit and the C's play a physical style that would tough for the Lakers to overcome. Detroit has some fine young players on their bench as well. And unlike previous seasons, Flip Saunders has given them enough playing time to develop confidence, as well as the flexibility to rest his starters.
It remains to be seen if the Lakers have the toughness to sustain a long playoff run, especially with their key bigs returning from injury so late in the regular season. Of course, as a Laker fan, I'll be rooting them on and hoping they make me eat my words.
GO LAKERS!!!!
Posted by: bronxlakerfan | April 02, 2008 at 06:04 PM
machiavelly,
OMG! Please accept my apologies! I take back all the things I said about you and even those things that I was thinking but didn't post. :)
BTW, I think you have the coolest name. And I'm not (really) trying to suck up because I was wrong.
--FearlessWhackJob
Posted by: FearlessWhackJob | April 02, 2008 at 06:10 PM
Justa,
This season has been nothing but "trying something different" with the lineups. By position:
Kwame and Bynum and Turiaf. Fisher and Farmar. Sasha and Walton and Vlad and Ariza. Odom and Turiaf and Vlad. Gasol and Turiaf. The only "constants" have been Kobe and Odom, and they have both played multiple positions in multiple types of lineups.
Big lineups. Small lineups. Three-point shooting lineups.
Do you actually watch the games? Apparently not.
Posted by: exhelodrvr | April 02, 2008 at 06:16 PM
Justa,
This season has been nothing but "trying something different" with the lineups. By position:
Kwame and Bynum and Turiaf. Fisher and Farmar. Sasha and Walton and Vlad and Ariza. Odom and Turiaf and Vlad. Gasol and Turiaf. The only "constants" have been Kobe and Odom, and they have both played multiple positions in multiple types of lineups.
Big lineups. Small lineups. Three-point shooting lineups.
Do you actually watch the games? Apparently not.
Posted by: exhelodrvr | April 02, 2008 at 06:16 PM
Ex
Yes I do watch the games and you should know that as I post during games as to what I see.
What you are failing to see is that in the beginning I was as happy as everyone with the depth of the roster and versatilty of it.
I said this team was deep and could go big or small and change lineups to play games to our advantage using versatility of our team to create mismatches.
The lineups were changed due to injuries mounting rather than creativity.
This is noted by the fact when we got down to 11 players with only 8 players used with 3 dnp-cd shows lack of creativity in utilizing all tools available. Until the criticism mounted Mbenga dnp-cd but finally got some playing time and helped in what he could do as role player.
Unfortunately this came too late because the 8 were over used and played extensively and tired out and created further risk of injury. Which did happen to Fish. I was constantly saying he should have been used to stay fresh for playoffs than burn him out during season.
Ira is still not used and could have played a few minutes in game yesterday to get him on the court. Where is the creativity? Coby also dnp-cd. A few minutes at the end could have given a little more under the belt. God forbid we get another injury and have to rely on a player who did NOT get any prep time on the court when he would be needed most. No creativity or foresight.
So yes I stand by by my opinion and PJ is not trying differently at least outright instead of reaction to injury.
Posted by: JustaLakerFan | April 03, 2008 at 11:17 AM