Division owned
Few, if any, Laker fans or media pundits predicted the Pacific division belonging to the Lakers for the calender year 2008. Especially not after the chaos leading into a season looking equal parts doom and gloom. But after last night's 117-114 win over the Hornets. The night kicked off appearing like a walk in the park, with Vlad Radmanovic's technical foul-inducing shove of Tyson Chandler feeling almost representative of the Lakers' bullying of New Orleans. The Laker lead swelled up to 30 at one point in the second quarter, and even after a bit of a swoon remained at a comfortable 20. But the Hornets didn't end up the Western Conference's first place squad by accident. It also didn't happen because they give up after 24 minutes. New Orleans shifted the momentum decidedly in their direction during the second half, going on a few runs and capitalizing on a Laker penchant for chucking (and missing) three balls. By the time the fourth quarter elapsed, the contest had grown a little too close for comfort and as Phil Jackson pointed out, another two minutes and the outcome could have been reversed. But the game did conclude after the standard 48, which amounted to a Laker victory in the box score, a victory with enough drama stuffed within to nearly burst the seams. A reminder that this conference remains wild and woolly.
For many an MVP voter, this game was used as bellwether material to help determine a vote between Kobe Bryant and Chris Paul (broken down to the serious nitty gritty here). While one can question the validity of putting so much weight into one game for a decision that reflects an entire season's worth of ball (CP3 would say the same thing), when it comes to the Kobe Bryant's credentials, his performance and the "W" only help his case (already made in stone to ESPN's Marc Stein). The ballots will already be counted by the time the playoffs commence, but were it a June election, Kobe might end up proving his worth through his postseason luck without the services of Andrew Bynum. Drew's return remains up in the air, his knee still lacking the stability required to compete at a high (or even medium) level. The mindset is one that eschews rushing him, a call supported by everyone to management to Bynum to The Mamba. The amount of credit given to "Kobe the motivational speaker" is up for debate, but it's hard to argue he didn't come through as promised.
The world will have to wait before learning what's Italian for "Starbury."
The Bucks have a GM!
have you bought your "Stephen Jackson Day" card yet?
Is D-Wade too caught up in raising his profile?



PHIL JACKSON IS A CYLON AND HE HAS A PLAN
Posted by: Who are You | April 12, 2008 at 12:07 PM
That "comeback" by the Hornets was in fact a massive failure by Phil and the Lakers coaching staff. It wasn't so much Hornets excellence as it was laziness, sloppy passing, and Laker non-moving objects. All it would have taken would have been a timeout or two and two or three players benched and replaced by guys who showed some energy and ball movement.
If this kind of "let 'em work it out by themselves" BS is tried in the playoffs, the Lakers will be one-and-out. Ridiculous.
PS. No contest for MVP. Kobe was Superman to CP3's Mighty Mouse.
Posted by: CornerJ | April 12, 2008 at 12:10 PM
On the No. 1 seed, I look at NO, Lakers and Spurs and Rockets will be a longshot. Can the Rockets win on the road against Jazz and Nuggets who are fighting for life to play in the post season. At best, Rockets will stay at 4th or 5th.
Posted by: Edwin Gueco | April 12, 2008 at 12:24 PM
Kobesbad,
you wrote : "10 million dollar zen- " if we win out and NO loses one,and Houston wins out we do not finish 3rd. If we win out, we finish no worse than 2nd. PERIOD"..........
That's wrong - we will win a head to head tie breaker with the Hornets if we tie for top record in the west because we will have a better record against western conference teams (if we win out) ---but if it's a three way tie between lakers, rocket, and Hornets - the tie breaker becomes who has the best record against the other two teams - and that would be 1. Houston 2. New Orleans 3. Lakers
Posted by: 10milliondollarzen | April 12, 2008 at 12:37 PM
Sonny,
Everyone else is expecting Dallas to beat the Hornets to get the #1 seed. I say Sac does it tonight. You always talk about your young gifted team I sure hope to see it tonight. Keep Artest on the bench and I think your team has a shot. Laker Fans are counting on you Sonny!!!
If you can't beat us how bout help us??
Go Kings!!!!
BD
Posted by: BD | April 12, 2008 at 12:37 PM
Listen up Blog....
==== DALLAS WILL DECIDE THE WEST ====
Just like last year, Dallas will decide the West..
However, in a wierd way..
They play NO the last game of the season. Assume the Lakers win out.
That means NO has to win out to win the West.
Dallas has the 7th seed pretty locked. So if they BEAT NOH, then they play NOH the 1st round but if they rest their starters then they play LAL the 1st round.
Are they going to rest their starters like last year, or have they learned their lesson?
You would think they would want to avoid us since we have a habit of kicking their azzes lately!
Interesting Interesting Interesting...
Posted by: Korey | April 12, 2008 at 12:39 PM
Great game by Maximus!!!
LO you are a beast on the boards!
Fish was great in the last 5 minutes!
Kobe MVP is yours with a victory over SA tomorrow!
I sure do hate when you get a big lead.
Lakers World Champions 2008
BD
Posted by: BD | April 12, 2008 at 12:40 PM
The path that has the Lakers earning the top seed and playing Denver in the first round may be partally carved out for us. All we have to do is win out.lol
Think about this,
Dallas has two home games left with Portland tonight and Seatle backto back. Followed by a season finally in New Orleans.
Portland is coming off of a loss in Sac town and will be looking for a serious win. We all know how Portland has that pain in the ass habit of getting really pumped for games against big opponents. Dallas is riding a three game winning streak since we bounced them last Sunday. Including a solid win in Utah. Look for an upset.
An upset would mean that Dallas would have to win out to secure the 7th spot (Denver owns the tiebreaker).
Result: That Dallas/N.O.game could be huge.
Posted by: The Head-Mbenga | April 12, 2008 at 12:41 PM
Without Bynum and Ariza in the lineup, Lakers will always be frolicking in a roller coaster ride, no stability in the post while fantacizing those perimeter shots. Both of these players are our stoppers, Socks in the middle and Trevor on the perimeter. If not Bynum and trevor, can we play Newble and/or Mbenga even for short minutes? When Chandler and Peja were on rampage in 3rd and 4th, I was thinking of N & M...what if they were inserted there for short minutes with Kobe, LO and Pau in the mix?
Well, we cannot argue with medical scienc? As young as they are, we were just hoping they were Dirk and Melo who were able to play that soon?
No Bynum, no Ariza, no possible extension of games in June, at best Lakers will fold in the 3rd round of the playoffs.
Phil Jackson is a cylon and also bonafide NUTS. lol!
Posted by: Edwin Gueco | April 12, 2008 at 12:43 PM
Hi and Good Afternoon,
Let's cool out and enjoy the day, San Antonio on Sunday!!!
Posted by: Charles | April 12, 2008 at 01:07 PM
Michael Teniente sighting!
Michael Teniente is on Kareem's blog.
Could Laker Nation's prodigal son be on the verge of return?
GO LAKERS!
Posted by: Jon K. | April 12, 2008 at 01:20 PM
A few observations....
First of all, I don't know what it is about the third quarter, but it's been a pivotal quarter (for better and worse) recently. I wonder what the hell is going on at halftime because it surely has not been contributing to consistency.
Second, when we get into "huck up a three mode", if you look at the positioning of our shooters, it's spot on, but if you compare their rhythm to someone like say... Portland or New Orleans, it's just off. There's a rushing of the shot that cannot be helpful. Our guards need to focus and relax if their going to embrace the bitter philosophy of "huck up a three at all costs" because otherwise it just seems like a fast track to undermining our offensive output.
Third, it seems the games off has been rather helpful for Luke Walton. Good.
Big game tomorrow. I wouldn't want to spend Sunday any other way.
GO LAKERS!
Posted by: Jon K. | April 12, 2008 at 01:26 PM
i miss ariza :(
Posted by: the_cool | April 12, 2008 at 01:39 PM
Edwin Gueco,
Without Bynum and Ariza, I still firmly believe that we'll still be in the NBA Finals.
Can we beat Boston without Bynum and Ariza? I'm not so sure about that, but we can still beat everyone in the Western Conference.
Why?
Two Words: Kobe Bryant.
What makes you think that competitve lunatic who has basically obsessing every waking moment upon returning to the Finals for four years now is going to let this squad falter in the playoffs?
No way. No how. Not going to happen.
We are going to see the most extraordinary play EVER from Kobe Bryant in these playoffs. I guarantee you that. This playoffs is going to be one for the history books.
Can hardly wait for it to begin.
GO LAKERS!
Posted by: Jon K. | April 12, 2008 at 01:43 PM
I'm with Charles..
Let's savor the victory over the Hornets from lastnight. We have taken the Pacific Div. but there's more business to handel. A big game on Sunday. So go outenjoy the day and be ready to go crazy for our team.
Feels good being a Laker fan today.. Enjoy the LA sunshine and get ready for a wild Sunday.
Posted by: lakerfaze | April 12, 2008 at 01:44 PM
Good call Charles, beautiful Saturday around here.
Posted by: pslakerfan | April 12, 2008 at 02:01 PM
I heard over the radio that Seattle Supersonics will be going to Oklahoma, i guess their new name would be OK Sonicsgrabber. It all started with the owner of Starbucks, Howard Shultz, remember that time when he was recruiting Magic to be the GM but did not materialized because he's a part owner of the Lakers. Gosh, he sold it to corporate Raider whose intentions is to put a team in Oklahoma. Mr. Percy Allen of Seattle Times said that he may have tasted an NBA franchise when Hornets temporarily moved to OK. Well, the city and the people refused to give the new owners their new arena. Why will you spend tax and give a new place to the perrenial loser? I applaud their decision just like the Southland not yielding to NFL.
Hornets have also warned New Orleans that if they did not the desired attendance they'd moved. Being the No. 1 seed, I guess they got to their quota. However, Seattle is a fertile market home of MSN, Costco, Boeing and several huge companies, I don't think basketball population will go away.
Clippers time to move to the Northwest together with Jon K. haha!
Posted by: Edwin Gueco | April 12, 2008 at 02:06 PM
Korey,
You are making a lot of assumptions.. San Antonio is in this mix too! We need to beat them Sunday,
Posted by: zen | April 12, 2008 at 02:09 PM
As a long time Lakers fan and one who has seen a lot of games. This laker team is not going to win a championship with this team this year. If we had Andrew and Ariza maybe. The main problem is we don't have a lot of Athletic players on our team. We need some more athletic players. not trying to sound racial but we need some more brothers.
Posted by: ANTHONY JOHNSON | April 12, 2008 at 02:15 PM
Congratulations to the Los Angeles Lakers, Pacific Division Champions!
You don't know how good it feels to say that unless you've been a Lakers fan the past couple of years!
Posted by: Glenn | April 12, 2008 at 02:17 PM
Tsphere,
Outstanding post. You were spot on with your observation that the Lakers third quarter turnovers were due to poor spacing and trying to slow the ball down and protect the big lead. Well, everybody but Sasha, who has absolutely no conscience when it comes to taking the shot. Lol. Never have to worry about that boy deferring to Kobe instead of taking the open shot. The problem is the not-so-open shot. Nevertheless, that sweet quick-release 3-pointer that Sasha buried off an assist for Kobe late in the fourth saved the game.
You are also right that Tyson Chandler won’t have those dunks off lobs with Drew in the lineup. In the only game that Andrew played against them this year (I don’t count the game he was injured), the Lakers routed the Hornets 109-80 on Jan 9th in New Orleans. Drew scored 17 points on 8 of 10 shooting and had 9 board and 3 blocked shots compared to Chandler’s 11 points and 7 boards and 0 blacked shots. The Laker shot 55% from the field and 43% on 3’s and held the Hornets to 37% shooting from the field and 11% on 3’s.
I also agree with you that the Lakers deserve a lot of credit for not folding after they had lost all but 1 point of their earlier 30-point lead. Every time that the Hornets threatened, a Laker player – Sasha, Fish, Pau, Lamar – would come through with a big play to extend the lead. I also thought this was one of our best overall games defensively, especially in the first half, which was the best half of basketball that we played all year. But give the Hornets and CP3 credit.
Finally, as we all know this was the MVP game and Kobe came through huge, only missing a triple-double by 2 assists and playing great team and clutch basketball when the game was on the line, relentlessly driving into the lane to either make a layup, draw a foul, or pass the ball back outside for a rhythm 3-point shot. That two-handed double pump reverse dunk off a 360 by Kobe was truly one of the greatest ever by KB24. My friends and I all have dubbed it as Kobe’s “MVP dunk.”
Let’s do it again on Sunday. Nothing like enjoying the 55-Win Bandwagon dropping one on the Spurs.
Go, Lakers. Get well, Drew. You have championships to win and records to set. Unleash the Beast!
Tom
Posted by: LakerTom | April 12, 2008 at 02:23 PM
Korey,
Phil Jackson calls Lamar Odom his Swiss Army knife because of his versatility and ability to play and defend multiple positions. Last night, we saw more great defense from Lamar on Hornets all-star David West, including two clean steals in the closing minutes of the game. You are absolutely correct that this team would not have had a chance to win 55 games without Lamar’s stellar work on both offense and defense. You are also right that Lamar will still play significant minutes at power forward when Drew comes back as he will be Pau’s primary backup at power forward as well as our starting small forward.
One of the beauties of the Triangle Offense is that affords every player opportunities to score without having to dominate the ball. Whether he plays power or small forward, Lamar has really developed his game without the ball, learning how and when to cut to the basket or position himself for an offensive rebound. That is why his shooting percentage has risen so much. Lamar knows that his job is to attack the rim and take advantage of the mismatches that he causes other teams to confront. Other than 3 ill-advised outside shots, Lamar was sensational attacking the rim and controlling the boards last night.
When you consider the importance of keeping players fresh, managing foul problems, and dealing with injuries, it is easy to see that the ability of Lamar and Pau to play multiple positions is a big Lakers asset. Once we are healthy, we will have starter quality players at center and power forward all 48 minutes, which may end up being a bigger factor in the Lakers dominating than the havoc that our Triple Towers offense could produce. It will allow the Lakers to rest and pace their big men with minimal drop in the quality and ability of players on the floor. Throw in Ronny, who can also play two positions, and it is easy to see that the Lakers front court will be among the best in the league once everybody is healthy.
Finally, you’re right that Dallas will decide the West. I predicted several days ago that Dallas, as the #7 seed, would be able to select their first round opponent when they play the Hornets next week. If the Mavs beat the Hornets, then the Lakers win #1, assuming they win out, and the Mavs would get the Hornets in the first round rather than the Lakers. If the Hornets win, they get #1 seed and the Mavs will have to play the Lakers in the first round. I think there is pretty good motivation for Dallas to beat the Hornets.
Tom
Posted by: LakerTom | April 12, 2008 at 02:24 PM
what really killed the lakers was all the stupid turnovers in the 3rd quarter. You could just tell they were not mentally ready for the 2nd half.
On another note, although i love sasha, he has let the last 14 guys he has guarded blow right by him from halfcourt right to the basket. but lakers still have a chance for first to play denver in the first round, but they need some help
Posted by: greek dude | April 12, 2008 at 02:30 PM
I'm willing to bet that both Andrew Bynum and Trevor Ariza will be back at some point in the playoffs. Maybe no later than the second round. This will be the time the Lakers will need these guys more than anything else. Especially with the possiblility of meeting a Phoenix team with Shaq in the middle and Stoudemire.
Referring to Anthony Johnson's Comments, the Lakers don't need more brothers....They have a well balanced team when fully healthy and need I add to it...have one of the best benches in the NBA. And I also agree with somebody who said that Kobe is going to have a remarkable playoff season this year.
Go Lakers!
Posted by: Ron | April 12, 2008 at 02:59 PM
Good afternoon everyone!
LOL @ the division symbol. Only the K Bros lol.
Posted by: Faith | April 12, 2008 at 03:04 PM
I would not be surprised to see Dallas lose against N.O in purpose so they can meet the Lakers on the first round of the playoffs.
Something is telling me that Dallas would rather see the lakers on the 1st round than the Spurs or even N.O.
Either way... no matchup is easy this year on the WC and even if the lakers grab the first seed, they have proven to all of us that they can get beat down at home by teams like Memphis, Charlotte and blow big leads against good teams so... would not be diferent to see their lack of effort against either Goslden State or Denver Nuggets.
I hope I am wrong but unless they stop practicing for next year 3 point contest and decide to play defense for 48 straight minutes, this Laker team is not ready for the first seed and either the playoffs.
Always... always, always... Laker for life!
Maxx
Posted by: Maxximo | April 12, 2008 at 03:09 PM
Let's go Sacramento Kings! (they play the Hornets tonight)
Posted by: never | April 12, 2008 at 03:09 PM
Bynum and Ariza are done this season ,looking forward to next season when everybody is healthy. If we don't win the last 2 games , we'll meet the Suns again ,damn ! 3 years in a row I'm tired of watching we playing them again.
Posted by: shum | April 12, 2008 at 03:21 PM
LakerTom,
Good breakdown of Dallas' options. I feel like right now if the Lakers have either the #2 or 3 they would face the toughest road to the finals. I don't want anything to do with the Spurs until the WCF. It basically all comes down to what happens tomorrow obviously. LakerTom, please break down the Spurs vs. the Lakers in terms of their match-ups. The way I see it, it comes down to who does the better job in defending guard penetration everything else is a vitual push. I think Dallas will be able to take care of business against the Hornets because the Hornets have benefited from an injury free season or they would be a #4 or 5 seed.
Posted by: The Original Ken | April 12, 2008 at 03:41 PM
Im just happy we got the win. Great teams are going to eventually make a run and get back in the game. It's up to you as a great team to hold them off and still get the victory. The Lakers did just that.
Posted by: kelly | April 12, 2008 at 03:54 PM
Hey guys, how about a trip back in time to a historic Laker day.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVC3DtgoYZY
gotta love it
Posted by: Kelli-Kell | April 12, 2008 at 03:57 PM
Well, here it is, the day after, and I don't feel so hot. I know the Lakers won, and they are Pacific Division champs. Congratulations. And I know Kobe Bryant won the MVP with a stellar performance against CP3. Congratulations, Kobster.
But there are 108 reasons why I don't feel so hot. Over the last 15 games, that is what opponents have averaged against the Lakers. And not just the NBA's upper echelons. Like we're talking Memphis, Charlotte, Golden State and Portland in that mix, and none of them are currently in playoff contention. That figure would be much worse if you removed the meager 78 points that the Clippers scored the other night from the equation.
The NBA champs do not give up 108 points per game. The NBA champs do not blow a 30-point lead at home. The NBA champs hold opponents to under 100 and go for the jugular. Instead the Lakers went for the juggler. That's what it looked like as they juggled one bad pass after another in the third and fourth quarters.
The Lakers may have won the score and their division, but they lost the game. What I mean is that the Lakers won 1 1/2 quarters while the Hornets won 2 1/2 quarters.
Okay, so quarters don't count, it's total points. But in the playoff, where defense get you to the next round, you need to totally demoralize the other team. You can let them have the hope of coming back against you. Once you have them down by twenty or thirty, you've got to pour it on and go for that knockout punch.
Right now, there isn't a team in the upcoming playoffs that doesn't believe they can comeback against the Lakers no matter the score.
When the opponents start chipping away at that lead. The head coach has to prowl the sidelines and get in
his players' faces. He has to call time out, not sit on his duff, fold his arms and hope his players can work it out. That is, unless he has no clue.
It was clearly evident who the better coach was last night. A former Laker brought his team back from a 30-point deficit and almost stole the game. Now it is time for Phil Jackson to sit back and let another former Laker, Brian Shaw, talke over the reins, and instill a defensive mindset in one of the NBA's most prolific offenses.
Posted by: lotecq | April 12, 2008 at 04:12 PM
It's a pretty interesting final week for the teams in the Western playoff hunt. It seems like practically everyone has two difficult games and one relatively easy game.
GO LAKERS!
Posted by: Jon K. | April 12, 2008 at 04:26 PM
Anthony Johnson
What is your definition of a athlete. Larry Bird was slow,yet many expert commentators rate him as one of the top 5 greatest players in the history of the NBA.
Posted by: WHITE MAMBA24 | April 12, 2008 at 04:37 PM
I'm willing to bet that both Andrew Bynum and Trevor Ariza will be back at some point in the playoffs. Maybe no later than the second round. This will be the time the Lakers will need these guys more than anything else. Especially with the possiblility of meeting a Phoenix team with Shaq in the middle and Stoudemire.
Referring to Anthony Johnson's Comments, the Lakers don't need more brothers....They have a well balanced team when fully healthy and need I add to it...have one of the best benches in the NBA. And I also agree with somebody who said that Kobe is going to have a remarkable playoff season this year.
Go Lakers!
Posted by: Ron | April 12, 2008 at 02:59 PM
When this topic came up, I found it ironic that the historic Laker vs Celtics playoffs it was the Lakers who primarilly had the brothers and Boston had the white guys. Lakers Wilt, Kareem, etc and West. Now Lakers Have Vlade, Sasha, Luke, Coby, Mihm, etc.
Celtics had Ainge, McHale, John Havlicek, etc
No point just ironic.
Posted by: JustaLakerFan | April 12, 2008 at 04:42 PM
RE: Lakers 3 Point Attempts:
The main problem with the Lakers taking their shots behind the arc is not so much the number of attempts but the timing of the attempts.
>>Koby, Farmar, and Fisher would often take shots behind the arc on a break. This is stupid and it has to stop. You can hoist a quick 3 all night long, it's always going to be there, so please don't squander an opportunuty to take the ball inside when you have the man advantage.
>>A quick 3 gives you no offensive rebounding opportunity, and always end up with a fast break for your opponent. Last night's game against NO is a good example.
>>Never, never, never take shots behind the arc when a team is trying to make a run, especially when you are comfortably ahead by a good margin--you are playing into their hands by doing so.
>>For the life of me, what's wrong with penetrating first and see what kind of opportunity is available before taking the 3?
I believe the primary reason why the Lakers attempt so many 3 pointers is because we do have players that can shoot the 3, but unfortunately, our shooters most times do not exhibit wisdom in their decisions. This is where a quick time out by PJ will help.
Maybe someone needs to take the comfortable high chair away from Phil and make him stand up once in a while. The coach needs to show some passion in battle as well!!
Posted by: Robyn | April 12, 2008 at 05:06 PM
if New orleans and Houston loses one of their last 3 games and the Lakers win their last 2, its a safe bet that the Lakers are going to be the no.1 seed. And it should be like this:
(1)Lakers 57-25
(2)Hornets 57-25
(3) Spurs 56-26
(4) Jazz 54-28
(5) Rockets 55-27
(6) Suns 55-27
(7) Mavs 52-29
(8) Nuggets 50-32
(9) Warriors 49-33
Posted by: Botsoy | April 12, 2008 at 05:11 PM
Tom,
No doubt that Odom is key to our continued success as a team. It would be foolish to let him go.
Let's think to the 2 most successful/consistent franchises over the last 6/7 years...
The Pistons and The Spurs...
What's the common demonimator?
It's great interior D and forcing teams to beat you with tough shots.
If the Lakers keep Odom, Bynum, and Gasol on the frontline that sets us up for the next 7 years. Odom can come off the bench for all I care. It's just the fact that we will always have 2 people in the game to challenge easy shots that will keep us in virtually every game.
Add to the fact that Kobe still has 5 years of supreme b-ball and you could easily see 2 championships in that mix barring injury.
Gasol, Bynum, and Odom can all play the 4/5. That's GREAT!
Imagine a lineup of Kobe, Radman, Odom, Bynum, and Gasol in the game...
Thats everybody over 6'6 in the game and daring teams to shoot. On O, we get wide open shots for Radman all day.
I'm tired of the Odom hate. If he hasnt proved this year that he deserves to be a Laker for life then what can he do. He is playing the best b-ball of his life and we've been asking for it for awhile.
Hopefully, he wont take a crazy contract and we keep him for good.
Kobe+Odom+Gasol+Bynum for 5 years is just as good as those old time Laker Baskeball teams. That's 4 all-star talents on one squad!!!
Posted by: Korey | April 12, 2008 at 05:14 PM
The laziness of the Lakers passing resulted from being on the second game of a back-to-back and all the energy expended to get that 30 point cushion. The lakers then were too exhausted to penetrate and play effective defense. In the end, no team gets examined as much as the Lakers on a game by game basis. Inferior teams lacking in mettle might have wilted further down the stretch. Thankfully the Lakers held on.
Posted by: richard | April 12, 2008 at 05:32 PM
Anthony Johnson:
You don't sound racist. You are being racist and should stop.
Posted by: The D | April 12, 2008 at 05:34 PM
Good afternoon everyone!!!! Lakers all day, everyday!!!
Lakers need to stay hungry and focused. Everyone has pretty much said all that there is to say about last night's win against the Hornets so I won't linger on their horrendous third quarter. I'm just going to enjoy and appreciate what our team is accomplishing after enduring 3 years of mediocrity and disappointment. I'm very hard on our team during and after games, but as a fan, I'm absolutely stoked about how things have come together in spite of all the adversity. Go Lakers!!!!
Posted by: Nemaia Faletogo | April 12, 2008 at 05:49 PM
We need to beat San Antonio tomorrow! Then
Ill start thinking of maybe being #1 in the conference!
Posted by: zen | April 12, 2008 at 06:00 PM
Aloha everyone
Just one thought on the 3rd quarter that hasnt been really mentioned. It was the 2nd of a back to back. Looking at our lack of movement in the 2nd half I think fatigue had something to do with it. When your a little tired its easier just to take that outside shot. The good news they dont have back to backs in the playoffs.
as far as having Andrew back. Because of match ups I really think we only need him for The Spurs, Suns and Celtics. Hopefully we can have him back before we play any of those squads.
MH
Posted by: michael h | April 12, 2008 at 06:13 PM
I don't hate LO. At all. I just wish he would add an outside shot and a right hand to his repertoire. These things are not a matter of talent, it's a matter of putting in the work.
Posted by: Amazing_Happens | April 12, 2008 at 06:55 PM
THE HIGHER THE SEED, THE MORE TIME FOR DREW…
The Lakers need to avoid playing the #3 Spurs or the #6 Suns in the playoffs as long as possible to give Andrew Bynum as much time as possible to heal his injured knee and get healthy. The Lakers right now can only finish as the #1, #2, or #3 seed in the Western Conference playoffs. That is the worse we can do.
If we win #1, the Lakers would then be in the opposite bracket from the #2 Hornets, #3 Spurs, #6 Suns, and #7 Mavs, meaning we wouldn’t meet any of those teams until the conference finals. As #1 seed, we would play the #8 Nuggets in the 1st round and the winner of the #4 Jazz vs. the #5 Rockets in the 2nd round. That would mean that Andrew Bynum would have 5 more weeks to get fully healthy. This is what we want.
If we win #2, the Lakers would have to play the #7 Mavs in the 1st round and the winner of the #3 Spurs or #6 Suns in the 2nd round, which means Andrew would only have 3 more weeks to get fully healthy. This would probably be acceptable since I think Andrew would be ready to play by then if he is going to play.
If we win #3, the Lakers would have to play the #6 Suns in the 1st round, most likely without Andrew Bynum since the 1st round starts 1 week from today. After the Suns, we would then play the winner of the #2 Spurs and the #7 Mavs, by far the toughest road to a championship. This would be the killer. The Lakers must defeat the Spurs on Sunday as a loss would probably give the Spurs the #2 seed and leave the Lakers very vulnerable at the #3 seed, facing the prospect of battling Shaq and the #6 Suns without Andrew.
Bottom line, Andrew Bynum will have 5 weeks to get healthy before meeting the Spurs or Suns if we win the #1 seed, 3 weeks if we win the #2 seed, and just 1 week if we win the #3 seed. We need to win out to ensure that we get the highest possible seed. And we need to root and hope for the Kings to beat the Hornets tonight or for the Mavs to beat them next week in the last game of the year.
Again, the Spurs game on Sunday is absolutely critical. Lose and we will fall to #3 seed and have to face the Suns and Shaq in the 1st round without Andrew Bynum. Nothing would ruin this transcendent season as much as losing to Suns again in the 1st round, especially now that they have Shaq. We need to play 2 halves like we did the 1st half last night. We cannot fall to the #3 seed or we are courting disaster.
Tom
Posted by: LakerTom | April 12, 2008 at 07:11 PM
for all the whiners about defense(not really the problem in the NO game, it was all the missed jump shots leading to runouts and fast break points for the Hornets, not lack of defense...), the 1986-87 Lakers that won the title over the hated Boston Celtics allowed 108.5 points a game.
point total is NOT the measure of defensive success. the chamionship lakers team in 1987 was the ranked 7th best defense out of 23 teams and it allowed .467 opponents fgp. currently, the Lakers have the 7th ranked defense out of 30, and allow a paltry .446 shooting percentage.
this team IS championship caliber, make no mistake, however the games still need to be played and the team needs to get healthy. God palys a role as well, because no team wins a championship without at least SOME good fortune, even in the face of overwhelming odds.
still, no reason to cry, the team scores 112.8 points(as opposed to 1987's 117.8) a game and is 3rd in the league in points scored(as opposed to 1st in 1987). the last time i checked, the winning team scores more points than the opponent, whether it's more or less than 100. we're in good shape against ANYone, as long as we play OUR game(yeah, ok, i'm not on the team, but i was born in LA so it's "mine").
we're in good shape, considering Pau is coming off of an injury, Kobe's missing a finger, AB's kneee hurts, Luke's ankle got retweaked, Ronny's had a sore ankle for a bit, etc. this next week before the playoffs should give the team a moment to catch it's breath and then go all out. as i've mentioned before, PJ plays a SYSTEM. the players, once they know the system, are plug and play, for the most part. guys coming back from injury, should require only a momentary adjustment to regain timing, and then everything should be GO.
i'm really looking forward to these playoffs. it should be entertaining, at least!
here's the sources for the stats:
http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/LAL/1987.html
http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/LAL/2008.html
Posted by: man | April 12, 2008 at 07:14 PM
Sacramento has an early lead on NO. I hate to say this, but I think we've all got to become Kings fans for the next 2 or so hours.
Posted by: Xodus | April 12, 2008 at 07:18 PM
Korey,
Good post about LO and the unnecessary hate lately. He's been playing great for a while and was key in our surviving Pau's injury. I'd definitely like him to come back at a reduced salary. Something like 7-8 million.
Posted by: Xodus | April 12, 2008 at 07:23 PM
Though I do agree that he needs to develop a consistent mid range shot and develop his right hand.
Posted by: Xodus | April 12, 2008 at 07:25 PM
Glenn,
Even if "brothers" are more athletic (and it's possible, but unproven that are), you are being racist in your comment. Any time you ascribe differential abilities to that wonderfully fallacious notion of race (the best we can do is talk about regional, ancestral origin--race was just made up by imperialist Europeans to subjugate those they encountered), you're being racist. I'm not the PC police. I'm not going to criticize you for being racist (which is different from being a racist, a racist comment is not enough to make someone a racist). I do think your comments are worth examination.
I'll address the issue of athleticism now.
I don't think athleticism is really that big of an issue for us. We do have a number of solid athletes in Kobe, Farmar, Odom, Bynum, and Ariza.
If you ask George Karl (and I think he has an appropriate team to allow him to comment authoritatively on this issue), even talent on a team is overrated. Part of talent is athleticism for almost all NBA players. Some, like Larry Bird, have rare gifts, but they are clearly the exception. Some of the worst teams in the NBA have the most athletic rosters. The Lakers may lose to them sometimes, but so do the Spurs. In the NBA, experience has trumped athleticism consistently when it comes to titles which is the only thing that really matters.
I think what the Lakers really need is more heart and more experience. We've improved dramatically in these areas this season. Fisher was super important with his experience and warrior mentality. One more year of triangle and NBA experience under their belts have helped Bynum, Farmar, and Turiaf all improve their play.
Posted by: Benjamin | April 12, 2008 at 07:29 PM