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Dj_mbenga Let's put things in perspective.  If we told you in October that before the beginning of April the Lakers would get their 50th win of the season, making them the third seed in the W.C., only a game out of the top spot, would you have complained that said 50th win didn't come in dominating fashion?  Doubt it.  So in that context, Sunday night's 126-120 overtime win at Staples over a hot Wizards team seems a lot better, right? Coming off two straight brutal losses on their home floor, the Lakers were dying for a victory, and behind a balanced effort including production up and down the lineup, that's what they got.  The box score shows a strange night all around.  Kobe was outshot by his teammates, and both teams were better from downtown than they were inside the arc, a big time statistical oddity.  And against a team with more established stars, the Lakers were burned by local lad Nick Young (27 points, a career high) and DeShawn Stevenson (eight threes).

In terms of triples, the first half belonged to the Lakers, and the second to Washington, especially the twisting, leaning Caron Butler hoist that helped push the game into overtime.  But just like the Wizards received a boost from more unlikely sources, the Lakers were goosed by 20 from Sasha Vujacic (a welcome bounce back), 19 from Luke Walton, 18 from Vlad Rad, and some nice contributions from DJ Mbenga (including the block at left) on a night where Phil Jackson said Kobe came out distributing after dominating the ball more against the Grizzlies on Friday.

D-Fish got the start on Sunday, but how his injured foot will cooperate going forward is still something of a guessing game.  Pau Gasol worked out on Sunday, and is hoping he can make it back on the court for Wednesday's game against the Blazers... knock on wood.  Andrew Bynum continues to work out, and will accompany the team on its next roadie.  But for the Lakers to maintain the balance they've shown throughout the season, LA needs the bigs back in the lineup.

So does Kobe deserve an MVP for the same reason Martin Scorsese deserved an Oscar?

The Warriors beat Dallas at home Sunday night, making the W.C. a very tight place not just up top, but at the bottom as well.  Golden State, Denver, and the Mavs are all tied up, with two playoff slots available.  Someone's gonna be left in the cold...

Brandon Roy isn't likely to play against the Lakers on Wednesday.

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Tsphere, are you an idiot savant or what?
You tell us what it means!

If the Lakers get all three of Pau, Bynum, and Ariza back,
then their defense would be as good as any in the league
except maybe Boston. And their offense would be better
than Boston's.

LTLF- thats totally speculation, Pau is soft on defense, Pau and Bynum never have played together AND Ariza is a role player- where are his minutes going to come from? Ill bet Phil would say Luke is a better over-all defender than Ariza so what are the lakers really gaining with him other than athletic ability?

Detroit San Antonio and Boston, no matter who plays in the game play better over-all defense than any laker squad. Thats coaching and a mentality. The Lakers win by outscoring the other team and being a good rebounding team. Thats not bad just different. Id rather have a good offensive than defensive team.

HmrHead:

As long as you're asking, I was the first one to propose the 55-win bandwagon last summer (I'll have to look for the date), and LakerTom and Mamba24 were the first on board.

I'm not a seer. Just stupidly optimistic. Unless things are going well, then I'm cautiously optimistic. To be honest, I declared the Lakers would win 55 this year right in the midst of the Kobe drama, and it was born mostly from a desire to HOPE. However, a month later, still standing behind the 55, I outlined my reasons. Mostly, I felt that Derek Fisher would be worth a few wins, that we'd have Walton, Kwame, Vlad and Odom back would be worth some, and the rest I attributed to us having essentially the same team as before, but with Bynum and Farmar having more experience.

Of course, this was all before Ariza and Gasol, so you could argue I was just lucky. However, had we not got them, but Bynum hadn't got injured, I still think we would've hit 55.

I'm not ready to take a bow yet, though, because we haven't hit 55 yet. And if the calvary doesn't come back in full force, it's conceivable we don't reach it. But I'll still stand behind it.

My other prediction was that we'd make it to the Western Conference Finals this year, and to the Finals next year. I'd be very happy if I end up being right, even though The Trade has raised people's expectations so high that many will be disappointed if we don't go all the way...

Vman,
Probably the concern that the benefit on defense would be overshadowed by the lack of familiarity on offense. Ariza (who I think is better than Newble) only averaged 2.5 min/game his first seven games with the Lakers.

Posted by: exhelodrvr | March 31, 2008 at 01:46 PM

I don't buy that. I think Pj is just being stubborn in his ways. First Ira was signed for DEFENSIVE help not offense. He just does not want FO help. I think he came to pressure whether by no excuses more not playing Mbenga. Or pressure from FO?
I think Ira can help in situations a his role is not to run offense but to stop opponents hot handed player. We hve enough offensive players to get the job done offensively.

Because of the length of time for our "bigs" to come back from their injuries, many of you are now starting to question the ability of the Lakers trainers, particularly that of Gary Vitti. In fact, one poster here suggested that perhaps Gary has not been keeping up with newer rehab or therapy methods.

Well, if you would just go to the official Lakers website, you will discover that Gary Vitti indeed is the key reason why our "bigs" are taking a long time to get healthy.

Check this out>>>>>
http://www.nba.com/lakers/multimedia/0708trainingtips.html

All Gary has been doing is using the "blue goo" for Bynum, Ariza, & Gazol!!!! So, expect to wait at least another 2 weeks before they are back!

Folks..............

Trevor Ariza is not going to be of any help this season. End of story. That's why Ira was signed. Even if TA is healthy, he won't be ready for giving any help this postseason.

We got Mihm back, Pau and Drew are coming soon, that's the cards we're going to have for the run this year.

For you Zakee...

Gary Vitti SUCKS!!!

I still say Dirk is back before Gasol...how pathetic is that for a medical team?

This needs to be addressed by Mgt before players are afraid of coming here due to a curse or being treated by Vitti.


BD

Robyn,

LOL maybe blue goo is a dressed up version of Dit Da Jow.

Yeah, it's nice to have 50 wins. However, there is still definitely room for concern. Until Phil J gets this team to play defense (I still doubt his coaching ability), we are only kidding ourselves. Regardless of the 5 guys on the court, we should still be able to get stops; no excuses. There is no way that a hall of fame coach would allow his team to continue to double team Brendon Haywood (averaging 11 points per game). I give Phil credit for something, he is definitely the luckiest coach in the NBA, but far from the best.

B. Bryant

Korey, Korey, Korey,

You're obsessed with this whole 3-point thing.

Seriously man, the 3's have nothing to do with it. You're seeing
more threes as an EFFECT. Not as a CAUSE. Bad inside shooting
is the first cause.

This season, the Lakers average 21.2 3-point shots per game.

Phoenix, Orlando, and Golden State all average more
than that. Houston Averages 20.7, San Antonio averages
20.0, New Orleans averages 19.8, Denver and Cleveland
average 19.4, and Boston averages 18.9.

So basically, most of the best teams in the league take
about 19 or greater 3-point shots per game.

You know who takes the least 3-point shots? Philadelphia,
Seattle, Atlanta, Utah, Clippers, Minnesota, Miami,
Chicago, and Milwaukee. There are a couple of playoff
teams in there, but most of the teams there are the dregs
of the NBA.

You MUST take 3-pointers to be successful in the NBA.
Not only does it score 1 more point per successful shot,
but it spreads the floor and prevents the opposing defense
from packing into the lane. Taking and making lots of
3-pointers makes shooting 2-pointers easier. It reduces
double teams on your post players, and it provides more
space for your slashers.

The Lakers current problem is not that they're taking too
many 3-pointers. The problem with not having Bynum
and Gasol is twofold: first, there is less interior defense,
which leads to less perimeter defense (when wing players
leave their man to try to help out).

Second, the inside offense without Pau and Drew has
been spotty at best. Ronny Turiaf is ineffective as an
offensive player against much bigger players like Darko
Milicic and Emeka Okafor. Ronny was 3-for-10 against
Darko (1-for-7 in the first half) and 4-for-10 against Charlotte.
Just as the bad inside play spreads to the outside on defense,
it does the same thing on offense.

Consider the Memphis game:

First quarter:
Ronny shoots 0-for-2 on 20 foot jumpers
Lamar gets one layup blocked, makes a 13 footer
Kobe makes a 12 footer in the lane
Farmar makes a 17 footer.

The Lakers take 14 shots inside the 3-point line, but only
2 shots in the lane. Why aren't Ronny and Lamar being
more aggressive and going for those short shots?

Second Quarter:
Lakers take 9 3-pointers and 9 2-pointers.

By the way, since Sasha is your favorite 3-point-whipping-boy,
in the first half of this game, Sasha took 3 shots total. Only
ONE of them was a 3-pointer.

Third Quarter:
Ronny, in foul trouble, sits for almost the whole quarter. This
actually causes an IMPROVEMENT in post play, as Mbenga
hits a couple of inside shots before he fouls out. Sasha
takes 3 more shots, all of them 3-pointers, and makes
one of them.

Fourth quarter:
The Lakers start the quarter down by 9 with Ronny in
foul trouble, Benga fouled out, and Odom completely
ineffective. In desperation, PJ puts in MIHM to try to get
some post scoring, but Chris isn't really up to game speed
yet.

With Mihm as the last line of defense, the Grizz start driving
to the lane as fast as they can. Five possessions from 10:30
to 8:00 go like this:

+Mihm Fouls Kyle Lowry
+Luke Walton block's Rudy Gay's 9-foot shot
+Mike Miller layup
+Javaris Crittenton dunk
+Rudy Gay dunk

PJ recognizes that Mihm can't handle it yet and gets Ronny
out there.

So let's recap the game to this point. Now there is 7:20 left in
the game. Ronny Turiaf has just come back in. To this
point in the game, Ronny has shot 1 for 8, Lamar has
shot 1 for 4, and MBenga with 4 points was the LEADING
POST PLAYER FOR THE LAKERS. Kobe has scored a ton
of points and shot well, but now Memphis is double or triple
teaming him every time he touches the ball, and Kobe
is kicking out to the open shooter.

Oh, and also to this point of the game, Sasha has shot 3
for 9. 33% yes, but his 8 points on 9 shots is FAR more
efficient than the post players other than Mbenga, who
has fouled out. So if you're riding the hot hand at that
point in the game, Sasha is the second best choice on the
floor after Kobe.

And the Lakers are down by 9.

Luke goes inside and draws a foul. YAY LUKE! Finally
someone TRIES to play inside. Lamar and Ronny sure
weren't.

Jordan Farmar drives, passes to Luke who makes a 6-footer.
YAY JORDAN AND LUKE! That sort of play really helps.

Luke Walton goes inside and gets fouled by Jason Collins
TWO MORE FREE THROWS FOR LUKE!!!

Ronny makes a slam dunk (ON AN ASSIST FROM LUKE).

[about this time, Floyd is probably still ranting WHY IS
PUKE ON THE FLOOR? THEY'RE GOING TO LOSE IF
PUKE STAYS IN!]

Lakers have pulled to within 5 points, mostly with inside
shooting. And it's mostly thanks to Luke Walton. It goes
back and forth for a couple of minutes 7-down, 5-down,
7-down, 5-down. Then with 3:10 left, Sasha hits a 3-pointer
to bring the Lakers within 3 points!!!

Note that in the run of inside scoring, Sasha did get the
ball several times and passed it along. Contrary to your
ridiculous assertions, Sasha does NOT shoot the ball every
time he touches it.

The score is 109-106 with 3:10 to play. The game with
Luke and Ronny working the inside and Sasha hitting
the open outside jumper has brought them within sniffing
distance of a victory.

The next time down the court, the Lakers get 3-offensive
rebounds and get off 4 shots! Darko Milicic blocks a layup
attempt by Ronny, and Jordan, Kobe, and Sasha each
miss an outside shot. Memphis finally gets the rebound
and calls timeout. In my opinion, this play does epitomize
your argument that the Lakers are too 3-point-happy. Both
Jordan and Kobe had some space and could have driven
the lane and probably have gotten a closer shot instead
of the 3's they jacked up.

At 2:15, Jackson takes Luke (who has led the charge back
into the game) out and replaces him with Lamar (1-for-5 and
sick as a dog) Odom.

Next play: Darko layup - 4 point lead.

Sasha hits another 3 to pull the Lakers within 2!!!!

Lakers get the ball back and Lamar jacks up a 3-pointer.
WHY LAMAR, WHY? WHY WAS LAMAR EVEN ON THE
FLOOR? WITH HOW POORLY HE WAS PLAYING, THEY
SHOULD HAVE HAD HIM GO BACK TO THE LOCKER
ROOM AND LIE DOWN.

There are less than 24 seconds and Memphis has the
lead, so Turiaf fouls Lowry intentionally.

Odom tries another 3. WTF??!?!?! Lamar shoots 28% on
three pointers. And he's sick. What the heck is he doing
jacking it up? Rudy Gay blocks his shot. Lamar gets the
ball back and passes to Sasha with 3 seconds left, so Sasha
heaves up a prayer, but misses. Turiaf gets a putback, but
it's too little too late.

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So in summing up... The Lakers weren't jacking up 3's
out of control for the whole game. It was in the second half,
when they got behind, and ESPECIALLY in the 4th quarter
that they started jacking them up

I love my Lakers but I have to be honest. There were several times last night I yelled out THIS HAS TO BE THE STUPIDEST TEAM EVER ASSEMBLED.

I really think it starts at the top: PHIL JACKSON..

There were so many mental errors last night it was almost comical. Why can't this team do the BASICS??

And somehow I always come back to Phil...

I really think time has passed up Phil and Gary Vitti..
We all have seen it in sports when this happens and I really think Phil is there. My biggest gripe...he is to set in his ways...from time outs to player rotations set in stone and don't even get me started on making adjustments needed in a game...He just doesnt do it... even thou I was glad that he finally figured out to bring in Sasha for Fish with seconds remaining to guard Nick Young. I really think that was his first adjustment he has made this year.

Lakers Forever and Bynum get back soon we need you!

BD

Just read that Brian Cook broke his finger out 2 weeks.
I wonder if he knows how lucky he is. If he was still with the Lakers I am sure it would have been the OUT A MINUMUM OF 8 WEEKS....if not longer..

Count your blessings Brian you could have Viti working on you.

The Answer is simple why you don't see Vlade or Newble in.

If Nine Rings plays Vlade at the end of a game there would be no reason for Luke to play.

If Nine Rings plays Newble, his defense would be so much better there would be no reason for Luke to play.

Go ahead and praise Luke for his one game of not looking like a complete moron. Geez what short memories everyone has.

This Newble thing has got to be a power play with Mitch, remember Jerry West left because of him. Happens all the time in business, POLITICS.

Problem is, he (PJ) is willing to lose games to play Luke to show who runs the organization.

And people have problems with Kobe?

Troll Man put me on your Phil Jackson Sucks Bandwagon

Korey,

Relax man! A few years ago you were working on your PHD, now you're all "g-fab" all the time about this team and stressed out :) (LTLF,who said I had a pessimistic view of the Lakers? That's your opinion, homie, not mines.)

LOL, "mines".

Anyway, its going to be ok, guys. I think Pau will be back on Wednesday, then we can close this out at 7-1 taking some momentun into the playoffs. Look at it this way, last October, any of us(fans) would love to be in the spot that the team is right now. Especially when you consider the other teams in west that have fallen back. I think its going to be fun in the playoffs, but the next fews games may be brutal to watch at times. That's just how it is, but as long as we get the ring its all worth it.

Blue Goo just sounds so nasty...

Ask Julia Bond, Lela James, and Lorena Sanchez...

JAMS,

Good research there. I couldn't have said it better myself..I've kept saying all along that the Lakers underestimate injuries to their players. They always get the return date way too early. Especially with key players.

Tomorrow could be a good two for two ---

NO has been on the road a while and they are playing a decent team. Phx will be playing a back to back in the mile high.

Among words used by Heat people to describe Shaquille O'Neal, who lashed out at the team last week: ''a phony,'' a ''big baby'' and unprintable expletives. Although O'Neal has taken shots at the medical staff for treatment of his injuries, there was sentiment among players before Shaq's departure that he was mailing it in. And although O'Neal took a shot at Ricky Davis, the irony is that he advocated the deal that brought Davis and Mark Blount here for Antoine Walker, a Heat official said.

Korey,

>>>One things for sure though, shooting 25+ 3s a game
>>>will just lead us to .500 ball, whereas playing a more
>>>half-court oriented, controlled game would lead us to
>>>better defensive and offensive opportunities.

Simple enough. Start by playing Luke more and Rad less.
That will reduce 3-point shots and increase post play and
assists. Next, forbid Lamar Odom from shooting any more
3's EVER!!! Then someone also needs to have Kobe tone
down his 3's. He takes 5 a game. Then the Lakers would
be down from their 21 3's per game to maybe 15 or 16.

So who's going to tell Kobe to stop jacking 3's?

And how many here on the blog want Luke to get the
lion's share of the minutes instead of Rad?

The Original Ken,

In compliment to your post. We were doing fine till AB went down. Then we picked up Gasol. Then Gasol went down, we are in a place that I totally expected. To be honest, 5 games in 7 days up to the Bobcat game was a lot for this injury laden team. Plus the back to back after playing the gun slinging Warriors was tiring for the team. Record wise, were doing ok. Is it acceptable to loose to the Bobcats and the Griz, no way! (But without Bynum, Gasol, several games with barely a game inbetween for rest?)

BD,

That's just wrong. lol.

PHIL JACKSON SUCKS BANDWAGON

01 Fire32 (unbiased driver)
02 Troll Man (riding shotgun???, where's my shotgun!!!)
03 Evil Cartman (I love you guys, except PJ)
04 Sister Mary Elephant (disappointed teacher)
05 Mr. Opposite (not this time)
06 Notes on a Scorecard (Acct. Mgr.)

The stats show the 3s ARE a problem:
First off, if 3s are a cause of no inside presence then why does Orlando average 25 3ptrs a game (#2) when they have Dwight Howard? 3s should come off of big men or penetration not just chucking...

Please LTLF, You dont want to go stats on this. For the month of March, how many 3s have the Lakers taken per game?
25.7

That would put as the #2 team in the league behind the GSW if that were our season average.

San Antonio shoots 20.3 ptrs a game, NO shoots 19.8, and Boston shoots 18.9. So basically we are shooting 6 more three ptrs than what the best teams in the league shoot. Hmmmm.... Problem here?

If you want to look at ONLY this month,
ORL 26.1
GSW 24.3 - 3PA/per game
IND - 23.9
PHX - 18.3
SAS - 17.1
NO - 19.1

Hmmm, I wonder if there is any correlation with PHX, SAS, and NO shooting less than 20 3s a game and them going on 5+ game winning streaks?!!!

The fact is, if you want to shoot 25+ 3s a game you better shoot a damn high % or you are going to be a team that in the end is mediocre instead of consistent. A team that can beat any team and lose any team. (GSW, ORL).

That's just facts. If the Lakers want to win, they will figure out how to hover around 20 3s a game instead of AVERAGING 25. That means scoring through attacking the basket more.

So you need to stop saying that is the EFFECT and start mentioning that as the CAUSE. If you shoot 25+ 3s a game you wont be a consistent team unless your PG is Steve Nash and that is your style of b-ball.

Otherwise, you attack the basket, get the other team in foul trouble, and play as best D you can.

Iam a Laker fan but i see the real Kobe...and he is a head case ...just listen to his comments and Phils comments...I Blogged it was going to get ugly and it is.....The thing with Kobe and i mentioned it many times...you just don't know what you are going to get....Not shooting at all( Playoff game at Sac a few years ago0) or shooting everytime he touches the ball.Why cant he just PLAY.He is a drama queen.....With Jordan,there was really no doubt he was the best at the time,with Kobe too many episodes in the way he plays to even give him a mvp award...

Also LTLF....
analyzing last game only proves my point. I said that we actually used discretion in shot selection and that was a big part of the reason they won.

And saying we have poor inside play ignores the fact that inside play can come from a position other than C,PF. Kobe can post up. Odom can post. Guards can drive to the basket and take shorter shots. Tony Parker led the league in FGs in the paint last year right? I think Chris Paul is pretty efficient down there too.... All we need is our players like Luke, Vlad, Sasha, Farmar need take a dribble to the free throw line and shoot or drive and dish and we are there.

THAT helps Defense because the other team is trying to stop our penetration. Farmar did a good job of this last nite.

And finally,
C'mon man, I said Sasha shoots the ball every time he touches it, literally? Not literally but it's a pretty high rate when Sasha gets the rock it's going up. We both know that.

'I just said, 'Hey, just don't destroy the relationship you've built with the players this year,'

WELL ISN'T THIS THE POT CALLING THE KETTLE BLACK

THE ONLY PEOPLE WITH NERVE ENOUGH TO CALL OUT PHIL JACKSON AND HIS ATROCIOUS COACHING ARE THE BLOGGERS HERE WHO DON'T TURN A BLIND EYE TO WHAT IS HAPPENING RIGHT IN FRONT OF THEM.

The Original Ken,
hey , who said I stopped working on the PhD?

Last year, I passed my qualifying exams at UofM and I'm now an official PhD candidate!

What does that mean, well, less classes and more time to let my mind wander ..... and blog!....lol...

Anyway, let me talk like I talk when I'm at home in Carson, CA sometimes. It's a blog, I can mix up the lingo if I have to, it's informal...

I mean, we got guys here who are stuck on CAPS lock!!!

By the way, where you been at? Hope you still been keepin up with the Lake Show. I'm fighting of all these Detroit diehards and Kobe haters everyday in Ann Arbor.

Its hard, but soooooommmebody gotzta do it!

>>>In my opinion, there are probably some 1000 players
>>>out there that could be more valuable to the Lakers
>>>than Puke...

So in your opinion, every player in the NBA, the NBDL, and
a couple hundred others are all better than Luke, huh?

Luke has the 235th highest PER of the 449 players in the
league. Rad is a hair higher at 214th. Your perception of
Rad being vastly better than Luke is all in your imagination. Rad shoots a slightly higher percentage, scores
a bit more. Luke gets more assists, slighlty more blocks and
steals and rebounds, and fouls a bit less. Neither one is
vastly better (or more consistent, for that matter) than
the other.

Personally, if he were available, I'd have Ariza start over
either Luke or Rad. Ariza's not as good an offensive player
as either Luke or Rad, but his defense is MUCH better.

As to who starts and who gets more minutes between
Walton and Radmanovic, I'm ambivalent. If PJ had played
Rad 40 minutes last night and Luke only 15 and the Lakers
had won, I'd be happy with that. If he'd played Luke 40
and Rad 16, I'm fine with that too. My comments honestly
aren't that I think Luke should play more or anything like
that. I was just disputing your comment that Rad was locking
down Butler on defense and then he went off when Luke
defended him, because it was just patently false.

"C'mon, how many of you thought the Lakers would be playing this well?"

I knew the Lakers had some great young talent and said as much, even when almost everyone contributing to this board, at one time or another, whined about not having any. Is this not true?

Now, if you're smart, you'll send the CoaCoaPuff packing and get something decent in return ASAP so you can really begin to build a team and make some noise. You should have done it over 2 years ago. Think about it. Otherwise, you must remain satisfied with your first or second round exits again and again and again; the same ol' plight which you already know so well. At least Kobe acknowledges that "IT IS ALL ON HIM" him now, and he's right.

I can just hear the narrative of CYA's in a couple of years after Kobe is no longer a Laker and you have truly started to once again contend for championships. "It wasn't his fault...he was deserving of MVP...he was the 'Best Player on the Planet'...he scored 81 points, and, um...he stopped scoring out-of-wedlock, he never had decent teamates", yea, whatever. Look, Kobe has phenomenal basketball skills and is an incredible competitor, and...is a marginal leader at best, but he is not now, nor has he ever been "The Leader" on a championship squad. There is no shame in that. Kobe's history as "The Leader" is either (1) get knocked out early, or (2) no playoffs at all. Am I wrong? I would use him the same way San Antonio uses Ginobli, but I digress.

Don't tell me about injuries. The team which took you to task last night has them. Houston has them. Portland has them. Dallas has them. All teams have them and experience other problems as well. If it's not Bibby, Bynum, Arenas, Dirk or Oden one day, it will be someone else the next, or something bad. Bank on it. Like the officiating, it's part of the game. Besides, coming back from surgery into a playoff atmosphere without at least 10 or so games under his belt, just how much do you think this kid Bynum can do anyway?

You people must live in Fantasyland. Woops, you do!

Sonnybelfast

Tsphere,

I wanted to compliment you on your outstanding post this morning on the previous thread. Your analysis of how the opponents defensive strategy dictated how the Lakers attacked offensively in each game. Unlike some posts we read, you clearly showed that you not only watched the game but understood what was happening and why. Bravo.

The best news, of course, is that Andrew and Pau are close to returning and we are still only one game out of top seed in the West with a relatively easy schedule to go, though we have seen what can happen to those cupcake teams when you take them for granted. Hopefully, we got that glitch out of our system and we will be ready to go from now on.

The only thing that keeps me sane when we blow games to teams like Charlotte and Memphis is knowing that we are missing our biggest two starters in Andrew and Pau. Now, before I go to the blog, I replay the Making of a Beast YouTube, which reminds me that we have the premier center in the NBA for the next 10 years in the on deck circle. Watching Drew throw down everything he touches on offense and reject shot after shot on defense then gives the energy and endurance to face the blog and its ultra-anxiety.

More AB17. Uncage the Beast! Go, Lakers. Let’s get win #51 with Pau back Wednesday.

Tom

Korey,

“But until we get our bigs, its live by the 3 die by the 3!!!”

Good to see us both agree on something for a change. LOL.

The big difference has to be whether or not we play inside out basketball, whether we have our two bigs or not. Last night, most of our 3-point shots came from penetration and good ball movement leading to shots taken in rhythm with inside players in position to attack the boards. The result was a great shooting percentage. And like you said, the only thing that kept the game close was the fact that we did not defend the Wizards 3-point shooters, who actually shot better than we do.

Best news is that Andrew and Pau are due back “any day now.” Then I think all of our prayers will come true.

Tom

ken and justalakerfan,

>>Phil must have some extra motivation to play Luke
>>>because Vlad was having a fantastic game up to the
>>>4th and no matter what anyone else says the stats
>>>showed he was playing excellent defense on his Butler
>>> who only had like 7 points up to that time.

Actually 9 points.

And since you think he was doing such an awesome job,
let's review Vlad's final stretch on the floor: The 3rd
quarter started with the Lakers up by 11 and Rad on the
floor. They started off well, building it up to a 17 point lead.

Then Washington went on a run. During the run Caron
Butler had 4 points and 4 assists. Also during the run,
Rad had a put-back for 2 points and a missed shot. By
the time Luke came in for Vlad with 1:14 left in the
quarter, the Lakers were only up by 3.

Now maybe you could lay the blame on Kobe, because
several of those Caron assists were Kobe leaving DeShawn
Stevenson open to go help Rad defend Caron, and Caron
kicking it out to DeShawn. But it was Rad's man who was
dishin' out dimes at a Chris Paul/Steve Nash clip.

>>>Everyone's saying that he didnt get in because of
>>>his D, well it was Butler making some critical shots
>>>over top of Walton and others down the stretch that
>>>led to the overtime.

Okay, so now let's look at what Butler did from the time
Vlad left to the end of the game:

Shortly after Vlad checked out, the Lakers were pressing,
and Sasha managed to foul Butler at half court. Caron
made both the free throws.

In the 4th, with Luke guarding him, Caron shot 1 for 2 and
had 2 assists. Mean time, Luke scored 7 points and got
an assist and 2 rebounds. He only missed one shot.

The miracle 3 by Caron Butler at the end of regulation
was a scramble of an inbounds play where Fisher ended
up guarding Caron. If Rad was in, it would have been
him watching Caron shoot over Fish instead of Luke.

Now for overtime. With Luke guarding Caron, Caron shot
0 for 4. He did get 1 assist and 3 rebounds.

Net result? In the third quarter, Rad outscored Butler
5 to 4, but Butler got a whole bunch of assists. In the
fourth quarter and overtime, Walton outscored Butler
9 to 6.

If anyone shut Caron down, it was Luke shutting him down
in overtime.

Look at the Lakers roster. Look at the injuries they have suffered this season, and include those where players were still recovering from off-season surgery. Look at the turmoil surrounding the team in the offseason, and the significant personnel changes made during the season, due to the injuries and the trades. Look at the youth and inexperience on the team. Look at how well Turiaf, Farmar, and Bynum have developed - faster than anyone anticipated. Now look at the Lakers record right now.
And some of you are going to say that Jackson can't coach? You're clueless! He has done one of the top three or four coaching jobs in the league this season; just like the two previous years.

Vman said:

"I watched he and Luke the whole game on DVR with slow mo and pause."

Great post. I'd love to read more of your slow mo breakdowns.

Wes

Justa
"First Ira was signed for DEFENSIVE help not offense."

Remember Kwame Brown? Remember the +/- when he played? Having someone who is a poor offensive player takes away as many points, sometimes more, than their defense saves. Newble is a mediocre offensive player at best, hasn't had a chance to practice with the team, and it's not like he is a Ron Artest or Bruce Bowen defensively. If he was as good as some of you think, he'd still be with Cleveland. He would probably be a slight improvement over Walton on defense, and would not be as good on offense. That differential might or might not improve with time with the team. Right now the team has so little room for error, so the smart thing is to go with the known factors, rather than taking a chance on an unknown.

Hmrhed says:

"Well, I guess the bloggers riding the 50 win
bandwaggon since October knew something the
rest of us didn't ... "

Yeah. I think it was the "55 win bandwaggon" that made the most noise. I didn't believe it but we're almost there.

Funny thing is that we would have made it without Gasol but with a healthy Bynum.

Wes

JustaLakerFan,

I find your assessment to be interesting and I think I agree with you.

GO LAKERS!

Korey,

Congrats on the PHD acceptance. I'm always around except when they were possibly looking to trade Bynum when Kobe was whinning. Its all good now, though. I didn't know that you were from Carson, lol. I understand now j/k.

Peace, Ken.

Jams,

I've been kind of lead to believe that Gary Vitti is God, but over the last few years my doubt in his Divine Nature has steadily increased by the day.

Yeah, yeah, yeah... the physical therapy moves by Andrew Bynum in that recent video seemed impressive, but... the injury bug has just hit us too often and lasted too long.

Something's rotten in Denmark, if you know what I mean.

GO LAKERS!

SonnyBelfast,

Your last post was actually hilarious. the "coacoa puff" LOL!. And just think, you're going to have so much time to write stuff like that over the next 5 or ten years during April through June. Keep it coming, buddy. :)

Ken

"The big difference has to be whether or not we play inside out basketball, whether we have our two bigs or not."

Thank You Tom.

This is what I'm talking about .

Please explain this point to LTLF... obviously I'm wack at explaining my points.

LTLF,
I can actually stomach Kobe shooting 3s and to some degree Sasha shooting them (in moderation).

And although Luke has played HORRIBLY, he can be a good player so I'll tentatively give him a pass on his current suckiness.

These guys are the only guys to me that have proven that they can get hot and pop like 5 in a row.

I know if Kobe starts bricking then he'll just get to the FT line. No biggie.

If Sasha starts bricking, well, let's just hope Phil pulls him out the game.

Everybody else needs to cool it on the 3pt happy-land-time.

Let's take it to the hoop guys!

I will pick M'Benga over Kwame any day of the week.

M'Benga is definitely more reliable.

All this won't matter if/when Ariza comes back. I'll take a healthy Ariza over the other two. And I'd use a combo of Ariza and Vlad most of the game. Next year we probably won't have to worry about this at all when Bynum and Gasol are starting together and LO slides down to the 3. I don't see how Luke can get any minutes under those circumstances.

Posted by: Xodus | March 31, 2008 at 03:14 PM

Sorry but PJ will find a way. Even if he sits Ariza.

Folks..............

Trevor Ariza is not going to be of any help this season. End of story. That's why Ira was signed. Even if TA is healthy, he won't be ready for giving any help this postseason.

We got Mihm back, Pau and Drew are coming soon, that's the cards we're going to have for the run this year.

Posted by: toad | March 31, 2008 at 04:04 PM

Well only thing I find funny about this post is that if TA was healthy he won't help us out in the post season. HuH???? That is why Ira was signed????????? HUH???

TA is very good defender and Ira was signed but only played 2-3 minutes 2nd game. Otherwise he was signed to sit on the bench with PJ. Ira, Mbenga was signed by FO (Mitch) so guess he has no use for them and Coby just sits because PJ is too stubborn to play rookie or invest in them in first year (except JF).

Lakerlover,

Maybe you should read more before you make comments
about Kobe apologists.

I've asked this question before, but I'll ask it again.
re: Kobe taking a lot of shots. Would you prefer
Kobe to take a shot or would you prefer someone
else to take a shot when they're hurt? Like:
Lamar, Luke, & Kwame to mention a few.

Is it your belief that Kobe should be like KG and never
take over a game and never win a championship and
be a great *TEAM* player or would you prefer someone
who can put a team on his back from time to time?

I realize this is somewhat of a useless question to ask.
People like you prefer that Kobe mute his talent for the
sake of those around him and you *NEVER* ask those
around him to work at the same level that Kobe does.
This means that NOBODY wins, but everyone feels
good. SCREW THAT!

*I* prefer that Kobe shine as bright as possible and
EVERYONE else work the butts off match him! That
is what I saw with the Showtime Lakers and Magic.
That is what I saw with the Chicago Bulls & MJ.

*I* have mixed feelings about what Phil says. Why?
Because this is the same man who wrote that Kobe
was uncoachable. He seems to have changed his
tune without admitting that he was wrong. Phil was
the same coach who sided with the Big Lazy instead
of the guy who was playing in the last 5 minutes
because he could make a free throw and the Big Lazy
couldn't.

For the record, I don't think Kobe is perfect and he's
cost the Lakers several games over the years.
However, Kobe's passion and determination have
won the Lakers championships as well as games.
When a leading man is called for, a supporting actor
just won't do!

I am happy we have him. I'll take the bad with the good,
because the good FAR outweighs the bad!

Go Kobe!
Go Lakers!

wesjoenixon

That was about as long winded and "expert" as I'm comfortable with but I appreciate the thought. Since I tend to scroll through the treatises that span full screens I'd feel the hypocrite to scribe one.

Don't know about you, but I'm amazed sometimes about how much can be said about the same 15 players and staff all year round. Listening in on some of the plays in the huddles, you hear quickly Phil's guessing best he can and it's controlled chaos on the floor.

That said, I was thinkin' of attempting Mike T's abandoned "BIg Body Theory" in 6 installments... haha

Jams,

Great post. "What they really need to do is ask why, with the technology today, do the Lakers take forever to recover?"

Nobody here ask why? They just believe. Like what you read here, they kept on saying Pau and Bynum are coming back anytime now...everybody gets excited and think of their 4 rings - dynasty lol!

If you don't believe, you're half-a-fan. It is not for a fan to ask why? you just have to do or die with those rain of threes, because the Lakers are not supposed to win 50 games this season with all the injuries that never heal. Super Kobe and Luke are injured but playing great, what more if they are not injured - we could be the greatest I presume. What a life of being brainwashed day in and day out that we are great then lose to a team like Grizzlies at home, that's Grizzlies a developing team that absorb Kwame. lol!

PS. Without Gasol and Bynum coming back, we are back to scrubby life of the last three years. Then you will hear a new theme, if not this year, next year or the year after next....(that is if they don't get injured).

If we beat the Hornets and Spurs at home next week then we go 2 and 2 against each team.

If we end theseason tied, what's the tiebreaker? Anyone know?

Wes

just so u know suns losing by 16 on 2nd qt

Suns getting Run!

at home

Again!

PJ made a remark about Gary Vitti, him not doing his job?

So, according to Phil, we are supposed to read between the lines to see exactly what he means?

OK? So PJ is troubled just like us bloggers as well. What and the H*ll is wrong with our staff?

Don't know all the facts about the Lakers training staff, but one fact I know is the new $75,000 Anti-Gravity walker we got for Bynum was old stuff according to the Phoenix Suns.

If you go to the Machines site, the number one testimonial was from the Suns chief trainer. They've been using it for quite some time with great success. And the Lakers staff, is just NOW finding out about it?

The Suns ahead of the Lakers in this treatment!?

Unthinkanable!

New recommended therapy for Pau Gasol's foot

AMA Journal of Medicine swears by this treatment.:

Much, much better than Silly Jon K. Sally's Sea Crystals sold by the Sea Shore.

Whenever his foot hurts, have Jessica Simpson kiss it. GUARANTEED to make it feel good. Way nicer than when Mom used to kiss the owie and make it ALL better.

Dr. Fatty Recommended, Lakers tested.

By the way, everyone...

If we need a lock-down defensive player, Quinton Ross will be available next year.

Quinton Ross is the most under-rated defensive player in the NBA. Period.

He'd be a great Laker.

GO LAKERS!

Wes,

The tie breaker is the division records. Last time I checked the Lakers had the best in the west, so if all three teams end up tied, the Lakers would get the number one spot.

Does anyone know if Ira's contract has been extended beyond the 10-day one?

Wes,

Conference records as to non-division. Or divion records if tied with a team in own division.

To Gunner,

What you said about Kobe leaving his man was correct and I agree with you on that...

but you have also to consider, why did he leave his man... surely, as you have mentioned, you know basketball a lot... but have you inquired with your infinite assessment as to why did he do it?

NBA players acknowledge that KOBE is one of the best defenders in His position, yet to you... he does not know how to defend! Why is that?

Maybe you are a better defender than KOBE is or a better PLAYER that KOBE is...

I have watched the game as many millions did, and to my simple recollection of the game... he did leave his man to help on defending the penetrators... again I say, HE LEAVE HIS MAN TO HELP ON THE PENETRATORS...

Maybe I am wrong... I do play backyard basketball... and it is frustrating when you have team mates who can't defend their man and you just got to come and help them defend the RIM... I beleive that's what KOBE was doing and was assigned to doing...

I hope you can see objectively the whole point of that exercise... after all you mentioned... YOU KNOW BASKETBALL... Right?

Peace from my house to yours...

That 15th technical foul is exactly what Kobe needed to win the MVP award.

I love Kobe but if I had one criticism I am sick and tired of his whining after every shot. He plays so much better when he is not jawing at the refs.

Last nights game was a nail biter but it was a pleasure to watch Kobe just play the game.

I say next year he gets 15 technicals in the first eight games. Then Kobe can just play ball and win the MVP award for sure.

Go Lakers!!!

Posted by: Tiki | March 31, 2008 at 10:29 AM

That's actually not possible, but it is an intriguing idea.

The fastest you can get technicals is a rate of one every game until the last game. It would take 14 games (and he'd have to be ejected from the last game) to reach 15 technicals at the fastest rate.

ken and justalakerfan,

>>Phil must have some extra motivation to play Luke
>>>because Vlad was having a fantastic game up to the
>>>4th and no matter what anyone else says the stats
>>>showed he was playing excellent defense on his Butler
>>> who only had like 7 points up to that time.

Actually 9 points.

And since you think he was doing such an awesome job,
let's review Vlad's final stretch on the floor: The 3rd
quarter started with the Lakers up by 11 and Rad on the
floor. They started off well, building it up to a 17 point lead.

Then Washington went on a run. During the run Caron
Butler had 4 points and 4 assists. Also during the run,
Rad had a put-back for 2 points and a missed shot. By
the time Luke came in for Vlad with 1:14 left in the
quarter, the Lakers were only up by 3.

Now maybe you could lay the blame on Kobe, because
several of those Caron assists were Kobe leaving DeShawn
Stevenson open to go help Rad defend Caron, and Caron
kicking it out to DeShawn. But it was Rad's man who was
dishin' out dimes at a Chris Paul/Steve Nash clip.

>>>Everyone's saying that he didnt get in because of
>>>his D, well it was Butler making some critical shots
>>>over top of Walton and others down the stretch that
>>>led to the overtime.

Okay, so now let's look at what Butler did from the time
Vlad left to the end of the game:

Shortly after Vlad checked out, the Lakers were pressing,
and Sasha managed to foul Butler at half court. Caron
made both the free throws.

In the 4th, with Luke guarding him, Caron shot 1 for 2 and
had 2 assists. Mean time, Luke scored 7 points and got
an assist and 2 rebounds. He only missed one shot.

The miracle 3 by Caron Butler at the end of regulation
was a scramble of an inbounds play where Fisher ended
up guarding Caron. If Rad was in, it would have been
him watching Caron shoot over Fish instead of Luke.

Now for overtime. With Luke guarding Caron, Caron shot
0 for 4. He did get 1 assist and 3 rebounds.

Net result? In the third quarter, Rad outscored Butler
5 to 4, but Butler got a whole bunch of assists. In the
fourth quarter and overtime, Walton outscored Butler
9 to 6.

If anyone shut Caron down, it was Luke shutting him down
in overtime.

Posted by: Long Time Laker Fan | March 31, 2008 at 05:47 PM

As I said in my first post on the thread during game I had missed the first half and started watching when Vlade was in and I commented on his play. I also noted he had 18 pts (from annoncers) and he sored on a put back after rebound and good D on his man.

I can't comment too much here but I base my opinion on a long strech of games to see a pattern. I say from what I have seen is that Vlade is a better defender, scorer and passes just as well. He also drives to the basketand dunks with authority.

I think like Farmar you have too soft biased opinion of Luke. I praise both for their good play (like Luke played)but will also call them out on their sub par play which has lately been more the case than not.

Justa
"First Ira was signed for DEFENSIVE help not offense."

Remember Kwame Brown? Remember the +/- when he played? Having someone who is a poor offensive player takes away as many points, sometimes more, than their defense saves. Newble is a mediocre offensive player at best, hasn't had a chance to practice with the team, and it's not like he is a Ron Artest or Bruce Bowen defensively. If he was as good as some of you think, he'd still be with Cleveland. He would probably be a slight improvement over Walton on defense, and would not be as good on offense. That differential might or might not improve with time with the team. Right now the team has so little room for error, so the smart thing is to go with the known factors, rather than taking a chance on an unknown.

Posted by: exhelodrvr | March 31, 2008 at 06:05 PM

Ex

I completely remember Kwame and his lack of it this season. He was average prior to that. He had a few high scoring games which tells me like Stu says "you shown me you can make the play now show me mora or all the time".

Ira was signed for defense, we have enough offense. He is also healthy with our players playing so many games running and twice in OT. Our core players not getting rest.

Pau came in with first game here dnp but practiced once and played the rest and you know the results. Remember I am not advocating starting Ira over anyone but to get some minutes to rest our starters. He can play D and can do it in spurts w/o hurting the offense.

He was signed to play D for 10 days so why did he sit all of 3-4 minutes. Way to get the most of our money for temporary help. Should have made PJ pay the contract then maybe he would have played him cuz it would be his money.
What is Ira contract up now? So we sign him for 10 more days to sit cuz he don't know the offense? Nope where there is smoke there is fire. More to this than what we see or know is what I think. He should have played or then why sign him?

PHIL JACKSON SUCKS BANDWAGON

01 Fire32 (unbiased driver)
02 Troll Man (riding shotgun???, where's my shotgun!!!)
03 Evil Cartman (I love you guys, except PJ)
04 Sister Mary Elephant (disappointed teacher)
05 Mr. Opposite (not this time)
06 Notes on a Scorecard (Acct. Mgr.)

Posted by: Troll Man | March 31, 2008 at 05:05 PM

Since there is no "PHIL JACKSON IS OVERRATED" bandwagon, sign me up. If we get on a roll, it will be because we have overwhlelming talent, not because of a coach who still has not taught his team how to attack a zone defense or defend the 3-point line. But, he doesn't take T's, he's a great sportsman! Too bad he lets Kobe take the T's he should get. Oh well, if Kobe gets suspended for, say, the New Orleans or San Antonio games, we can still count on the Triangle offense to get us through anyway. Right? Uh, right?

wesjoenixon:
Here is the tiebreakers:
The following is an explanation of NBA tiebreaking scenarios.

Determining Ties for Playoff Position

In order to break a tie for playoff positions, if one exists at the end of the regular season, the following criteria will be utilized in the order set forth:

TWO-WAY TIES

1. Results of games against each other.

2. Better winning percentage within own division (only if tied teams are in same division).

3. Better winning percentage against teams in own conference.

4. Better winning percentage against playoff opponents in own conference (including teams that finished the regular season tied for a playoff position).

5. Better winning percentage against playoff opponents in opposite conference (including teams that finished the regular season tied for a playoff position).

6. Better point differential between offense and defense.

MORE THAN TWO TEAMS TIED

1. If applicable, division champions must be determined first.

2. Better winning percentage in all games among the tied teams.

3. Better winning percentage against teams in own division (only if all tied teams are in same division).

4. Better winning percentage against teams in own conference.

5. Better winning percentage against teams eligible for playoffs in own conference (including team that finished the regular season tied for a playoff position).

6. Best point differential between offense and defense.

Note: If a multiple team tie is reduced to a two-team tie at any point using the above criteria, the two-team tie will be resolved in accordance with the existing two-team tie procedure.

hobbitmage - there is a time and place for a super star to take over a game- Kobe doesnt understand when the lakers need that.

His game is such that when things are going poorly or the team is going through some adversity, he thinks he has to do more. Great leaders trust their teammates to step up and make plays. Its a catch 22, because when Kobe does that some people will say Kobe "singel handedly won the game" or something similar. By the same token if Kobe does that and the lakers lose- its because his teamamtes arent good enough. Basketball is a team game not an individual game. The Lakers have plenty of guys who can score. They need Kobe to step up and lead on the defensive end. Guys wont play defense hard typically unless they are scoring. Thats the way it is in the NBA. Thats why teams with scoring balance are tough to beat.

Thats my take.

Fairweather Fatty,

Listen, jerk! I guarantee you I know as much if not more than ANYONE on this blog about nutrition and alternative health practices.

Dit Da Jow has been been used by billions of people for nearly three thousand years. It's not a wild myth. It's something that if effective. That's why it has continued to be in use for thousands of years.

In addition, if you have a BASIC understanding of biology, you'll know that minerals play a fundamental role in the construction of bone and connective tissue. You don't have enough minerals in your blood, your body cannot effectively produce new tissue. It's that elementary simple. This is not rocket science. It's very simple... and sea minerals are at the most absorpable and bioavailable form of essential minerals. ERGO! If you have bone and/or connective tissue injuries you need mineral supplementation to accelerate healing. It is logical and simple.

Don't call me a lunatic for stating the obvious! You're a moron for not considering these obvious things.

GO LAKERS!

My point on Vlad is why he can't get time in the 4th? He was having a nice game. Luke did have a nice game, but Phil didnt know what he was going to do for the whole quarter and Vlad had shown he was on already why didnt he get back in around 5 or 6 minutes left to go when they needed some offense. That is my point it's not Luke vs. Vlad it's why doesnt Phil give Vlad the chance to come thru when he was showing him he could? He put's him out there as the starter because he knows his shooting helps open up the lane for Kobe and others but going down the stretch in a tough game that's come to a grind offensively he doesnt give him the same shot? Vlad has shown some toughness when he was is some of these games and Luke hasn't in fact just the game before Luke made a mental mistake at the end of the game. I'm just trying to point out that Vlad's actions have been more successful this year why not give him some opportunities down the stretch? Also the comparison between Luke and Vlad based on strictly the 3rd vs. 4th quarter isnt a fair comparison when Vlad guarded Butler for 1st and half of the second, I dont think Luke really guarded Butler in the second I'm not going back to check but he was out for a while with Vlad during that period. So overall Vlad played him up till the 4th and did a nice job, one not deserving to be benched over especially when he was the leading scorer going in to the 4th, Luke didnt even surpass him until he took that little giveme layup with 3 seconds left to go instead of holding the ball to let time expire.

Justa,
"He was signed to play D for 10 days so why did he sit all of 3-4 minutes"

No, he was signed as an insurance policy in case there was an emergency need. That is why people are signed to 10 day contracts. NOT to become significant contributors. Newble is not a better choice at this point than any of the shooting guards/small forwards on the roster (possibly other than Karl), and given the limited amount of practice time left in the season, he will very likely not get to that point this season. It's not realistic, and the practice time that is available needs to be spent primarily working with the players already on the roster, because the payoff THIS SEASON will be much higher doing that than spending it trying to teach Newble the triangle, familiarizing himself with these teammates and vice versa.

BTW, Kwame was NEVER average, either defensively or offensively.

Portland's outside shooters are going to kill you tonite. Suns will be atop the Pacific by the end of this evening, and the Lakers will be a speck in our rearview mirror and a first round loser.

JustaLakerFan

Sorry, man, but you missed the point. TA comes back healthy in another two or three weeks. Great. When do we find the time.......while trying to win playoff games.........to get him some minutes and get him into game shape? Do we put him out there in a position where he can't succeed due to having been off for as long as he has? Can't afford to give away a minute of a playoff game, let alone a quater or a game. That's exactly why Ira was signed.......as insurance in case TA could not come back before the playoffs start. His being signed to a full contract yesterday is evidence of exactly that. Remember, in the playoffs, your roster is set before each series begins, unlike the regular season where you pick your 12 active players on game day. Ira will get some PT in the next few weeks, and will probably be there in the playoffs as a stuational shut down defender.

I like TA alot.........but he's not going to be able to give us any help this year.

I never said Jordan shoots too many threes, what I said is that I don't want him shooting them because he can drive the lane to either dish or shoot. A guy with Jordan's speed and skills can be more effective when he's driving the lane. Just like Jason Kidd is more effective when he's in the paint dishing to his big man. I don't know if JF is restricted to passing or if he just prefers to stay near the 3-point line, but I'm telling ya he's too good to be standing out there passing. DRIVE THE LANE. That's all I'm saying. And yes I watch all the games. I have NBA League Pass, so I'm watching the same games everyone else is watching. I may be just a little to critical (I must admit).

As far as the Lakers defending well when Bynum was playing has nothing to do with them not rotating quick enough on defense the past few games. Stu Lanz made a comment that the guys are not communicating out there on defense, which sounds like a legitimate observation. I understand the Lakers don't have a strong present down low and Rony is undersized, but when a guy like Stevenson is hot then you gotta run out and defend. That guy was freakishly hot from beyond the arc.

All in all, I think the Lakers should've won that game in regulation by double digit margin. It's a win, so we'll take it. I'm looking forward to the next game.

Korey,

>>>And finally,
>>>C'mon man, I said Sasha shoots the ball every time he
>>>touches it, literally? Not literally but it's a pretty high
>>>rate when Sasha gets the rock it's going up. We both
>>>know that.

Actually, it depends on game situation.

If it's early in the game and Sasha has a wide open look,
then regardless of the score, I agree with you, it's going
up. And I think the Lakers pretty much want him to do
that.

With the Lakers protecting a lead late, I've seen the Lakers kick the ball ahead to Sasha and have him
show the good sense to pull the ball back and wait for
his teammates and use clock. Similarly, late in games
with the Lakers ahead, but with the game still not in
the refrigerator, I've seen Sasha look at the open outside
shot and then pass it off to a teammate.

But if the Lakers are down late in a game and Sasha
gets an open look, there's no question he's going to shoot
it. I think these are the ones that get on your nerves (and
a lot of other people's as well). Sometimes it's better to be
patient down the stretch and try to get a 6 foot shot instead
of a 25 foot shot, especially because you're more likely to
get fouled and get free throws on the 6 foot shot.

On the other hand, on any night where Sasha is shooting
33% or better from 3-point range, that's the equivalent of
someone shooting 50% from inside - If Sasha is shooting
33% and Lamar is shooting 50% and they each take 6
shots, they're each going to score you 6 points. That's my
thinking on the subject.

So on any night when Lamar is actually going to the
trouble of posting up, which he's pretty good at, and hitting
his shots from inside, then by all means, pump it in to
Lamar. Same thing with Ronny. Or even Luke or MBenga.
But if all of those guys are ineffective inside (as was the
case in Memphis), then I'd just as soon see Sasha jacking
up shots as anyone other than Kobe.

I don't think Sasha is completely without conscience, but
I think when the team gets down, he believes he can get
the team back into the game with his shooting. And on
several occasions this season, he has.

To Jon K

>

>

Jon K - I assume your quotes had to do with this comment.

"New recommended therapy for Pau Gasol's foot

AMA Journal of Medicine swears by this treatment.:

Much, much better than Silly Jon K. Sally's Sea Crystals sold by the Sea Shore.

Whenever his foot hurts, have Jessica Simpson kiss it. GUARANTEED to make it feel good. Way nicer than when Mom used to kiss the owie and make it ALL better.

Dr. Fatty Recommended, Lakers tested."

Jon K

I think you mistook what I was trying to say here. I was not trying to be serious, just having fun and by the context, I thought it was obvious. But I'm sorry you perceived the thought the wrong way.

Why you would then respond with "jerk" and "moron" is kind of besides me.

Either way, I'm sorry if I hurt your feelings. It was only my intention to have some fun and makes friends with one of my favorite bloggers, Jon K.

Your fellow Lakers comrade,

Fatty

Ps. I'm am too an avid user of herbs, vitamins, aromatherapy, and accupuncture. So you could say, I'm kind of an alternative guy as well. lol

I hate it when the Lakers have a day off.

p ang,

You know, I think you hit the nail right on the head. I think the biggest reason Kobe is so happy is because the dudes around him are warriors. LO and Luke playing hurt. Turiaf and Cobe coming back from cancer. Fish playing on a bum wheel.

This is a BIG improvement over Kwame and Smush. Especially Smush. Isn't Smush the only guy to ever pick Steve Nash four times in one game?

Dude has both quick hands and quick feet but still didn't play any perimeter D?

I'd be happy too if I were him.

You have simplified the whole season to those two moves. No Smush. No Kwame. And, I think you can add no Cook, because not only did he not want to play D, he was insubordinate.

We all hated loosing Ariza, but you gotta give something to get something.

You are a smart dude (dudette?)

--FearlessWhackJob

JustaLakerFan,

I find your assessment to be interesting and I think I agree with you.

GO LAKERS!

Posted by: Jon K. | March 31, 2008 at 06:15 PM

Thanks Jon

Appreciate your input

Long Time Laker Fan,

On an academic sense, a 33% three point shooter is the same as a 50% inside guy. However, against certain other teams, you better be shooting way better from the three to be as efficient because the misses usually lead to long rebounds.

Fast break teams like Phoenix and Golden State use those long rebounds to help fuel their high-octane offenses using runouts, and lob passes and the like.

It really depends on the matchup as to which type of shot you should prefer in any particular game. Shooting from the paint works so well against those teams because you limit the number possessions per game. That slows them down. They really hate that.

That is the reason Phoenix panicked and got Shaq in the first place.

--FearlessWhackJob

Justa,
"He was signed to play D for 10 days so why did he sit all of 3-4 minutes"

No, he was signed as an insurance policy in case there was an emergency need. That is why people are signed to 10 day contracts. NOT to become significant contributors. Newble is not a better choice at this point than any of the shooting guards/small forwards on the roster (possibly other than Karl), and given the limited amount of practice time left in the season, he will very likely not get to that point this season. It's not realistic, and the practice time that is available needs to be spent primarily working with the players already on the roster, because the payoff THIS SEASON will be much higher doing that than spending it trying to teach Newble the triangle, familiarizing himself with these teammates and vice versa.

BTW, Kwame was NEVER average, either defensively or offensively.

Posted by: exhelodrvr | April 01, 2008 at 09:10 AM

Ex
I don't buy that. You sign players out of need for temporay help or when needed. Yes definitely an insurance policy. But like other insurance policies you don't only cover one diaster. You cover all you bases. We have a shortage of players and our core is playing way too minutes extending them to point of exhaustion. So why wait for playoffs when you have an insurance policy on your bench? you use that insurance policy to help your team now and in the playoffs. Even if he plays in spurts there is no better way to learn than on the court.
He also was signed for playoffs as you stated so if TA is not ready(but I hope he will be, and might be ready) then Ira needs to get the PT now instead of experience in the playoffs. If TA comes back and is able to contribute our bench is stronger if Ira can contribute too.

I have already read that Ira has been signed for rest of year so he better get PT to help out now and when needed.

Yes Kwame was average but the block in between his ears did not allow him to realize he could be so much better. Again like Stu said "if you show me once show me all the time".
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JustaLakerFan

Sorry, man, but you missed the point. TA comes back healthy in another two or three weeks. Great. When do we find the time.......while trying to win playoff games.........to get him some minutes and get him into game shape? Do we put him out there in a position where he can't succeed due to having been off for as long as he has? Can't afford to give away a minute of a playoff game, let alone a quater or a game. That's exactly why Ira was signed.......as insurance in case TA could not come back before the playoffs start. His being signed to a full contract yesterday is evidence of exactly that. Remember, in the playoffs, your roster is set before each series begins, unlike the regular season where you pick your 12 active players on game day. Ira will get some PT in the next few weeks, and will probably be there in the playoffs as a stuational shut down defender.

I like TA alot.........but he's not going to be able to give us any help this year.

Posted by: toad | April 01, 2008 at 09:47 AM

toad

I remain optomistic that TA will come back and be ready, but as you say he needs playing time now and I question he will get it. Read what I wrote to Ex and see that insurance policies cover more than one diaster. That is why he should have played. I did not miss the point but you did not look at all the factors. Outside of Coby the problem is you can't invest in your core too much now as they need to rest and are burning out.

Prepare for the playoffs and work in your role players now to help our core and let the others get experience. Worked wonders when BJ was given a few minutes to contribute.

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