Live from Staples- Lakers vs. Warriors
One thing about playing the Warriors, it's never boring. There could be enough excitement in this one to help the body digest all that ham*.
BK
*Ham, in this case, is used as a catch all for anything anyone happened to eat today. I do believe, though, it's a red letter day in the ham industry.
FIRST QUARTER:
Lakers win the tip. I assume that means they win the game. Maybe, maybe not, but if they get inside as they did with Turiaf on Biedrins on their first possession of the game, they've got a good chance. Good way to start.
10:00- LO drives the left baseline, and feeds Ronny with a very, very nifty behind the back pass through very tight quarters. Turiaf made the layup, but nearly blew it, in part because I don't think he realized the ball could get to him.
9:16- Kobe draws a foul on Davis, getting into the post, then kissing a turnaround off the glass. That's two for Baron, who then draws a T from the officials. I'm assuming he said something more than "How was your Easter?" Don Nelson leaves him in, though. Pretty big gamble.
8:25- 13-11 LAL.
Side note, there is a woman behind me with the most piercing voice I've ever heard. It's absolutely shocking, and a little annoying. There are likely dogs wailing outside Staples right now, the tone is so high pitched. I can't imagine paying $100 for killer seats... only to be seated next to the likes of her.
Ugly.
6:58- Timeout on the floor, Lakers. 15 up, after a D Fish pull up J. Thus far, the Warriors are getting and converting some clean looks. 6-10 from the floor, thought the Lakers have forced two straight TOs. Or, if you prefer, have been the beneficiary of two straight TOs. The latter is probably more accurate, really.
6:40- Turiaf hits the 17 footer, and the lakers have a two point lead. He comes back on the next trip to run it to four, hitting the same mid-range shot. That's a massively important aspect of his game for the Lakers. As long as he's on the floor and can make that shot, he'll force opposing centers to move out on him, and it'll open up the floor.
4:54- 19-17 LAL.
4:13- Lakers turn the ball over, and the Warriors turn it into a Stephen Jackson triple. On the trip previous, the Lakers were burned, as Vlad threw a lob pass to nobody in particular,
and the Warriors cashed in on the other end. They'll get plenty of good looks on their own. If the Lakers make it easier, it'll be a long night.
3:33- Turiaf picks up his second foul, hitting Harrington on a three. Not a good foul, and it'll send him to the bench. 23-19.
3:05- No excuse for the Lakers- Coming off a Kobe miss, Baron Davis gets the entry pass, takes a few dribbles, then feeds a wide open Ellis for an easy layup in transition. It's one thing for the Lakers to give up a bucket off a broken play, but off a make? That ain't good.
2:21- Timeout on the floor, tied at 26.
Farmar in off the TO.
Jackson is hurting Vlad on the defensive end...
1:00- Nice little flip from Walton to Odom for an easy dunk.
:30- Kobe doesn't even try to close on Jackson, and he buries a three in front of him. Had he made a hard run, I'm sure Jax would have pumped and penetrated, but it's better than the alternative. Not a good defensive play, there.
END OF THE FIRST: Lakers down 34-30, and while GSW is hitting a lot of shots, the Lakers aren't making it tough. Seven TOs, which accounts for the score at this point. The Lakers also need to do a better job closing on shooters. Give 'em an inch, and they'll take it. The good news is at some point the Warriors will go cold, and for the most part when they get into the O without turning it over, the Lakers are doing what they want. 10 dimes on 13 FGs, which is an outstanding percentage. They need to tighten up on both ends, though. More care with the ball, more attention to transition D, etc.
AK with the second.
SECOND QUARTER
10:52 - Luke Walton will undoubtedly throw a lot of inbound passes pver the course of his career. And they will be better than the one ended up a turnover in such bizarre fashion, BK and I are debating how it happened. If anyone can help describe it, we're all ears.
10:16 - Another turnover, this time from Ronny. He tried to do a two-handed overhead crosscourt to Sasha. Assuming Vujacic was allowed an extra 15-20 feet of real estate and nobody was seated in the first five rows or courtside, it was the perfect pass. Otherwise, not so hot.
8:56 - Monta Ellis racks his third layup of the frame and we're barely three minutes in. To say the least, the speedster (who's already notched 12 points) ain't meeting nearly enough resistance while heading into the paint.
8:17 - Kobe bricks a 26-footer from behind the arc, one posession after Sasha misses a long two. The Lakers are spending way too much time bombing from outside, not connecting nearly enough, and giving the Warriors too many opporunities to run the gun they're into. They need to slow it down, work the ball inside and take advantage of the fact that Golden State has nobody who can man the post. The feed Kobe dishes to set up Walton's layup? Exactly what I had in mind. As it is, they're playing right into what Golden State wants.
6:19 - Walton taps out Farmar's second miss at the stripe, helping set up a three ball for Jordan in immediate fashion.
4:45 - Horrible shot by Sasha in transition. Barely five seconds had passed after Davis' layup before Sasha jacked that one up. He recovered his miss, drove the lane and drew the foul, but that's almost beside the point. Plays like that are exactly what Nellie wants from his opponent. The Lakers are getting way too caught up in G.S.'s tempo right now.
4:19 - Vlad may have shaken, by in large, Phil's "space cadet" label. But if he lets another rebound go off his hands again like the one he just let roll away off Harrington's miss, he'll regain the moniker all the same.
3:17 - Absolutely no resistance as Davis head to the rack. He spends about 3 seconds a little bit inside the circle working on Walton, but there's no way Luke's gonna be able to stay with him forever. Once the eventual move comes, LO gets beat easily offering the help (of sorts) and Vlad's protection of the rack offers none.
2:35 - Back to back bad turnovers by Walton, the second a REALLY lazy pass. I don't think that sound you hear right now is the crowd yelling, "LUUUUUUKE."
The quarter winds down with the Warriors up 72-49 and the fans really letting the Lakers have it. And they should. They've spent this half doing actually what Golden State wants. Jacking up a lot of 3's to match style (and making a paltry 3-13), rarely slowing down and looking inside to take advantage of Golden State's lack of interior and generally allowing themselves to get both frustrated and taken out of the game. These decisions have also played no small part in the Lakers having already turned the ball over a ridiculous 14 times. I'm not sure they can dig themselves out of a hole this size, but I'm willing to guarantee it ain't happening if they don't make a few adjustments. Basically, everything. We'll see what happens. BK in the third.
THIRD QUARTER:
More of the same to start. Kobe picks up his third, Harrington drills a three. Lead up to 26.
9:37- Lakers pick up a three second violation, and it goes on Ronny. He was set up with a great look inside, and passed off. By the time the Lakers worked the ball around again, they had picked up the violation. Overall, they're running the offense better early in the third and making better decisions, except now they're missing some easy looks.
I love how Ronny has played in Gasol's absence, bu the still defers offensively too often. If you have an open shot, take it.
9:00- GSW 77, LAL 52.
7:09- Kobe hits a three off a broken play, as Fish hit the deck to avoid a turnover of his own making. That cuts the lead to 20, and Nelson calls a timeout. Overall, the Lakers seem to be making better decisions right now, and are limiting the Warriors to more of a halfcourt game. Shame they didn't adopt this strategy back before the Warriors built up the 25 point lead.
The goal here has to be to get the lead down to 10 before the end of the quarter. Give themselves a shot to win over the final twelve.
5:30- Odom hits a jumper, and the lead is down to 18. Kobe isoed on Baron up to, took a hard dribble left, then as the defense came over quickly passed off to LO for the J.
Fish hits a three, adn the lead is down to 16. GSW has gone cold, taking a lot of shots from the perimeter without much movement. The one time they managed to pass the ball around, Biedrins ended up with an easy layup. As much as the Warriors can shoot a team out of a game, they can shoot a team back into one, too. If they continue to settle, the Lakers could be in luck.
4:15- Davis drives and is met by a crew of Lakers on the rotation, and I believe Ronny gets credited with the block.
4:00- LO hits a pair of FTs on the other end, and it's 79-67 GSW. The big difference between this half and the last, aside from the score, is turnovers. The Lakers have one, and it came on a three second call. No easy run outs and break opps for the Warriors in the third. Combine that with a little calm on the offensive end, and it's easy to see why the Lakers have been able to cut the lead.
3:16- Bad shot from Kobe, early in the clock without trying to get the ball down low, he launches from outside on Davis, and misses. Ronny goes up for the board, and draws the loose ball foul. That's his fourth, and he'll have to sit.
2:34- Fish hits a three, and the building is going nuts. The Warriors' lead is down to seven. Catch and shoot in rhythm. Timeout, Golden State, up 81-74. Lakers have outscored Golden State 25-9 in the third, aided in part by horrible decision making from the Warriors, who have no concept of game management (which is why they're dangerous for one round, but no threat to go deep into the playoffs). But the Lakers still have only one TO in the quarter, and have done a good job getting the ball down low.
The Warriors have missed a lot of shots they were making before, but the big thing is the Lakers aren't playing into their hands anymore.
2:15- Rad gambles, trying to poke the ball away from the guy on the post, and pays for it as the ball is kicked back out to Baron for an open three. He drills it. Can't get caught up in the fever- guys need to stay disciplined.
1:55- Kobe draws the fourth foul on Ellis. They're starting to pile up for GS.
1:24- Fish hits an open three from the corner off a Walton block, a quick outlet, and nice feed, and the Lakers are down only five.
:19.5- Horrible foul from Vlad, 55 feet away from the bucket gives the Warriors a pair of FTs. Barnes makes one of two, so it could have been worse. He then follows up with the air ball on the tear drop for the last shot of the quarter, which catches nothing but nothing. Air ball. Which is strange, since he's known for that little floater driving in the lane. It's the shot that made him famous.
END OF THE THIRD:
Vlad Rad's mental breakdown aside, the Lakers had a fantastic quarter, and we officially have a game on our hands. Lakers took care of the ball (I believe two TOs, maybe just the one) slowed the Warriors down by getting the ball inside, and generally didn't give anything away to the Warriors, who helped them out immensely with some shoddy shot selection.
Quarter ends 87-81, GSW.
I'll keep typing for the fourth, since the last time it was AK's turn, the Warriors went freakin' nuts and shot, like, a billion percent from the floor.
FOURTH QUARTER:
10:42- Lakers down seven (92-85) after Odom cleans up a Kobe airball. Or was it a pass? Well, they didn't give him the dime....
10:01- Great sequence from the Lakers. Walton outlets to Farmar, who makes a great pass to LO on the wing for a trip to the basket. He goes hard at the hole, and Jackson is late getting over (barely), and the Lakers get the and-one, and the fourth foul on Jackson in the process.
9:35- 93-88 GSW.
9:03- Davis picks up his third, on an offensive foul coming into the lane out of control. Great play by Farmar to slide in and absorb the contact. The Warriors are really coming apart at the seams, while the Lakers continue to gain confidence. By turning the game into a halfcourt affair, they're eliminating a major strength of the Warriors.
Some Q3 stats:
GSW shoots 3-19 from the floor (15.8%), and turned the ball over five times. LA was 10-21 from the floor, still a little three happy (3-9 overall), but got to the line. 9-10 from the stripe in the third. Why? They got the ball near the hoop.
8:42- Ronny back in, as Ellis goes to the line with a chance to put the Warriors up five. He makes both. 95-90 Golden State. There will not be tacos tonight.
7:14- Luke ends up on Ellis, and brings him inside on the mismatch. During the postup, Ellis picks up his fifth foul. Personals are becoming a major factor for the Warriors.
Ronny loses the ball on the way to the hole, off a great p and r feed from Kobe- that happens a little too often to him. Got to grip that ball a little harder!
6:48- There you go! Turiaf converts with a strong dunk and-one, off a spectacular feed from Kobe, who went behind the back, then spun, then still managed to know where he was well enough to find Ronny for the easy dunk. That was pretty freakin' impressive. Very likely to end up on YouTube by the time we all go to bed tonight. To get through the lane with that sort of control (as a reminder, he went behind the back on the dribble, then spun... in case you forgot) without losing the ball was impressive enough. To find the open man? Damn.
With the FT, the Lakers have come all the way back, and the game is tied at 95.
6:12- Again, Ronny passes up an open look, this time deep in the clock, which had there not been a three second violation would have forced Fish to hoist a rushed three. He's got to take those shots when they're available. His teammates are expecting it, which is where the three sec calls come from.
3:53- Jackson to the line, with a chance to tie after drawing the foul on Walton w/ penetration. He makes the first, then the second. Tied at 99, but momentum has clearly gone back with the Lakers. They need to keep running the offense, get guys in the post, and move the ball.
Kobe gets into the post, but the double (and a triple on the way) come. He misses the turnaround- not a bad shot for him- and LO gets the loose ball foul going after the rebound at the 3:35 mark. 100-99 Golden State after Jax makes the first. Timeout on the floor.
By the way, if we judge blogging on +/-, I'm killing AK tonight.
3:35- Jackson back to the line, and makes the second. Big possessions for the Lakers coming up here. They need to get clean looks.
3:17- Luke forces a post up along the baseline- it wasn't there and he needed to kick the ball out- but LO bails him out with a tip in. Tied at 101...
2:00- Fantastic block by Odom on Davis at the bucket. He had Kobe on the wing, and after a few tries, found space baseline and got past him. Odom came over at the last possible moment, and blocked the shot clean. On the other end, Kobe draws a foul heading to the basket, and makes both. That's a four point swing, and fi the Lakers win this, could be a play to look back on.
Kobe still on Baron.
1:25: 107-105 GSW.
1:03- Tough break for the Lakers. Warriors three is an airball, and Azubuike is right there for the put back, forcing LO to hack him. Easy call, easy FTs for the Warriors.
Kobe comes back on the other end with a three, and it's a one point game. The crowd is up.
:38.5- Confusion between Walton and Fish on the pick and roll. Both went with Ellis, leaving Jackson all alone for the three on the pop. I have no idea who screwed up there, but someone did. Walton tried to close, but it was too late. Easy look for Jackson,and he converts.
Four point lead for GS, 112- 108.
Kobe hits the three, and brings the Lakers back to within a point, then the Lakers give it right back as Fish gives up way too much space to Jackson, who drills another three. As Charles Barkley would say, that was trruble. At least the last terrible play came with a screen to deal with. This one? Nothing there but space on the rotation and ball movement around the perimeter.
FINAL SCORE: GSW 115, Lakers 111. LA gave themselves a chance to take the game, but in the end, had two critical breakdowns defensively gave the Warriors the opportunity to take it back, and they did. Miscommunication on the pick and roll again rears it's ugly head. But as bad as the finish was, they really lost the game in the first half, letting the Warriors end the first two quarters with a 23 point lead. You can't let that happen, and expect a decent team to give it up at the end. Golden State tried in the third, but didn't waffle enough for the Lakers.
Overall, they played a very good second half. Unfortunately, both count.
More to come in a jiffy. Thanks for following along.
BK



Gutless no call by the ref on Ellis at the end of the game.
But this game exposed two major Laker weaknessnes:
1. We can't guard anybody off the dribble.
2. We are stupid. Why don't we run 3 point shooters off the line? Why don't we recognize who we can't leave open? Jackson drains a 3, and we are too far off of him. The pass is made, but we don't move while the ball is in the air (bad fundamentals). We wait until the shooter catches it. Then its too late. Then we don't run him off the three point line.
Posted by: The Logo | March 23, 2008 at 09:14 PM
That's a HORRIBLE loss!!!! D-Fish is my dude but he played horrible defense on that last play. The only thing that could hurt us was a 3 and he leaves there BEST 3 point shooter OPEN!!!! Damn, we're gonna have to come out strong tommorrow to get that win.
Posted by: Weave-Man | March 23, 2008 at 09:14 PM
Just saw the replay and FIsher and Odon were arguing over who should go out and guard Jackson on his last 3 pointer. From my view, it should have been Odom on him but he was cheating over to help on the ball. Fisher was right but when the game is on the line no one should be arguing. Just guard the perimeter!!!
Posted by: thehanmer | March 23, 2008 at 09:15 PM
I think we'll take the open threes lesson to heart.
BUT AGAIN, THEY BARELY BEAT US WITHOUT BYNUM AND GASOL. I am not worried at all about seeing them in the playoffs. This should be taken as a confidence booster, of sorts, for the Lakers and all us fans.
Posted by: JohnnyP | March 23, 2008 at 09:15 PM
Before everyone starts freaking out. Remember, we had no Pau, no Bynum, no Mihm (giggle).
Now the early TO's, defensive technicals, and stupid fouls 55 feet from the basket didn't help, but they swung it 28 points.
I say we get the win tomorrow.
Posted by: mel | March 23, 2008 at 09:15 PM
Bunch of morons trying to put this one on Phil? Yes it's Phil's fault he can not put his brains into every freaking skul every freaking person on the floor to make sure they are not going to make such a dumb desicions...
Posted by: LAL_Fan | March 23, 2008 at 09:16 PM
Luke is reaching Smush Parker status. Seriously. At least Smush can steal? haha.
Posted by: Faith | March 23, 2008 at 09:17 PM
Man, the Warriors are lucky we don't have Gasol and Bynum yet. The Warriors are going to get ugly beatings when they return. THis was, if it is possible, a good loss. We played our worst game nearly ever and were very close. The Warriors are lucky they can beat us without big players.
Posted by: JohnnyP | March 23, 2008 at 09:07 PM
If the Lakers think all will be well as soon as Drew and Pau return they will be in for a rude awakening.
The return of Drew and Pau has nothing to do with:
Turnovers.
Giving up points off turnovers.
Giving up offensive rebounds.
Not defending the pick and roll.
Leaving the 3 point shoot wide open.
Not playing within the flow of the offense.
I could go on and on.
Posted by: passionate Lakers fan | March 23, 2008 at 09:18 PM
Everyone is right about our giving up three's when it's the only shot that will hurt us...however, as I have written before, it's Phil's rotations that put us in those situations...where was Ronnie the last four plus minutes of the game? You don't try and match up with them, you make them match up to you...when Ronnie went out, we lost our interior presence...I'm not a Luke hater, but he should not have been in the game the last four plus minutes...if you're not going to have Ronnie in, then put in Sasha, or Ira...both would match up better...I know that Phil is the most successful coach in the game, and I'm just a crippled ex-cop, but his rotations are suspect at best...
Posted by: Christopher Blake | March 23, 2008 at 09:19 PM
We'll catch up to NO in the standings. NO is about to go on a long 6 game East Coast trip and there's 4 teams in that 6 that can beat them: Cavs on the 2nd nite of a back2back, Boston, Toronto, Orlando. Too bad Miami is on that trip too.
Of course, paying back GS with a win tomorrow w/d be nice although Kobe and LO played major minutes tonight (and so did Davis, JAckson and Ellis on GS).
If we lose tomorrow, Suns could catch us temporarily but they are also on a tough EC road trip facing Detroit and Boston.
The end of season schedule is definitley in our favor.
Posted by: LakerinBC | March 23, 2008 at 09:20 PM
Xodus,
"This team makes too many mental errors to win a title. We've got a lot to clean up before the playoffs."
I agree; they are still an "immature" team. Sometimes that includes Kobe. They let themselves get drawn into the other team's game, forget about running the offense, and make mental mistakes way too often for a group that hopes to compete for a title. And that includes everybody, including Kobe, Fisher, and Odom.
Posted by: exhelodrvr | March 23, 2008 at 09:20 PM
ONE MORE TIME FOR IDIOTS OVER HERE - COACH CAN DO ONLY SO MUCH. PLAYERS IN THIS LEAGUE ALSO SUPPOSE TO HAVE ANY BRAINS AND THINK INSTEAD OF LEAVING OPEN 3 PT SHOOTER... IF YOU CAN'T UNDERSTAND THIS YOU'RE AS DUMB AS THOSE PLAYERS... I'M OUT
Posted by: LAL_Fan | March 23, 2008 at 09:21 PM
Golden State have scattered brains for letting their 23 pts lead meltdown but they are athletic enough to capitalize on opportunities. They are beatable tomorrow night provided Luke Walton plays only short minutes. He is slow footed player and has no confidence in his shots, his defense is about four yards apart. Why not Turriaf in the end? Why not try the new laker, Ira for specific assignment which is defense? Phil loves mind games and also experiments.
Posted by: Edwin Gueco | March 23, 2008 at 09:23 PM
this is a coaching loss........it was too obvious what the play was gonna be and yet......the coach doesn't make sure we stay home on the 3..........and remind me again please why Ronny wasn't playing and he was having such a ridiculous game. Never put Rad and Walton in together please...............ONE is more than enough
Posted by: Dion | March 23, 2008 at 09:23 PM
Oh well...I hope they learn from this game and come out smoking tomorrow. Good night, Lakerville...I now defer to the trolls who will come out as they always do whenever the Lakers lose.
Posted by: bronxlakerfan | March 23, 2008 at 09:14 PM
How many more, "Oh well...I hope they learn from this game" games must the Lakers lose before they learn:
The become an NBA champion you can not play so
wishy washy (especially so late into the season).
This Laker team has too much physical talent; yet mentally, it is the wost play-off team I have ever seem.
And Luke must go.
And when Jordan/Sash/Vladimir are not hitting the 3, what use are they?
Pathetic.
Down by 23 on your own home court to a team you will possibly face in the first round?
Sad.
Posted by: passionate Lakers fan | March 23, 2008 at 09:24 PM
Phil Jackson gets WAY too much credit for his 9 rings. I do think he is a great coach but NOT in-game. He loses more IN-GAME decisions than he wins.
The personnel on the court in crunch time loses this game. There is no way Luke and Rad should have both been on the court down the stretch. I don't blame Luke, I blame PJ. this game is on him
A wasted MONSTER effort by LO, Kobe and Fish.
Posted by: Earth Wind & Fire | March 23, 2008 at 09:24 PM
passionate Lakers fan
man that hurts. All Kobe needs is for his team to play defense and he can handle the rest. Personally I don't trust anybody besides Kobe to take the shots at the end he has proven himself too many times. He was feeling it towards the end.
The game was rigged the culprits being those in Las Vegas.
Hmm.... wasn't Fisher the one who let Baron Davis drains a couple 3's the previous game?
Posted by: Tej | March 23, 2008 at 09:25 PM
I know what this blog will say before I visit.
How?
Because I say the exact things watching it on my own.
Why Luke was left in the last 3-4 minutes, BEYOND ME.
The last two possessions where Jackson was wide open, that was more on Fish. Fish left him wide open both times. The second one was even more inexcusable than the first... shot clock down to nothing and Fish is sagging into the lane???
What??
Momentum has shifted to our favor, we're going to win the game. Let's bring in Luke, put him in the high post, and run our offense through HIM... what, three lousy possessions in a row until Kobe said, I'm going to take my guy off the dribble...
WTF.
Where's the COACHING??
If you're going to lose, okay, lose. But this game was winnable 100%. The only way we lose this game is by horrible coaching.
I'm sorry. That's now 2 games we've lost to GSW that I hold PJ directly responsible for.
I'm a PJ fan. There's no one else I'd rather have.
I call them as I see them.
PJ has lost us TWO games against GSW. Both should have been W's. BOTH OF THEM.
And then I have to see their smug actions after the game... ugh... like Kobe said at that last time out
@#$@#$#!!!!!!!
Posted by: Tim-4-Show | March 23, 2008 at 09:25 PM
Luke Walton who could not defend anybody nor make any shot so all the EFFORTS of Kobe and others were totally WASTED.
Posted by: | March 23, 2008 at 09:25 PM
How the West is Won:
http://www.sacbee.com/100/story/805644.html
Sonnybelfast
Posted by: sonnybelfast | March 23, 2008 at 09:29 PM
You know it's a crazy game when you're down by 23 at the half and you feel like your team should have won.
Posted by: Xodus | March 23, 2008 at 09:29 PM
One last thing....The Show have 4 more Sunday games this year. They need to change thier routine and come with some focus on Sundays.
Posted by: bronxlakerfan | March 23, 2008 at 09:30 PM
Passionate Laker Fan, you cannot blame for Kobe for ball hogging because that's the game was played for him, he connected to 3's but missed one, it is the defense of one player. YOU LIVE WITH KOBE, DIE WITH WALTON.
Posted by: Edwin Gueco | March 23, 2008 at 09:30 PM
DOES LUKE HAVE DISCRIMINATING PICTURES ON PHIL JACKSON!!!!!!!
WHAT MUST BE DONE???? HOW LONG???? LUKE PROVES OVER AND OVER AND OVER THAT HE SUCKS!!!!
OH!!! HE DID GOOD AGAINST SEATTLE???? SEATTLE??? SEATTLE SUCKS SO BAD THE CITY DOESN'T WANT TO KEEP THEM!!!!
LUKE WALTON STINKS!!! PERIOD!!! HE'S NOT A BIG GAME PLAYER, HE'S NOT LIKE HIS DAD!! LUKE WALTON TOTALLY SUCKS!!!!!!!!
Posted by: scorpiomike | March 23, 2008 at 09:33 PM
I hope we get the Warriors in the first round so we can sweep them or win in 5. Seriously, we should've won this game, so I don't worry too much about it. History shows that small ball only goes so far, so who cares about the Warriors. Will we be talking about the Warriors when the playoff are over? I seriously doubt it. I really hope we get them in the 1st round, the Suns in the second round and the Spurs in the WC finals, bring them all on when we're healthy!!!
I don't understand why it takes Pau and other players so long to come back from ankle injuries. When I played, I would turn my ankle, shake it out or have someone pull on it and still play even when it swelled up to the size of a softball. I even played on it when it got tight and was really sore. These guys get paid millions of dollars and yet it takes them forever to come back from even small injuries at times. I understand the lengthy recovery of Andrew, but I think some of these other guys baby their injuries way too much. Just my two cents. Go Lakers!!!
Posted by: Nemaia Faletogo | March 23, 2008 at 09:33 PM
Lesson learned too late. A lot of minutes for all the starters. Hope they have some way of getting their legs back for Monday night. And, the Lakers need to shut down Ellis and Jackson, who were lights out.
Lamar was a beast all night. He's stepped up. So did D-Fish. Off nights for Vlad and Sasha. Not PJ's finest coaching effort, either.
But it was turnovers that killed us, Lamar and Ronny each had 5. Walton and Kobe each had 3.
Sunday nights at Staples have been pretty rough this season. Now, the Lakers have to win one on the Warriors' home court. It won't be easy, but it is a necessity.
Posted by: Rick Friedman | March 23, 2008 at 09:34 PM
Quick guards and 3 point shooters...the Lakers' kryptonite.
Posted by: troy | March 23, 2008 at 09:35 PM
chuck23
Too much Luke.......and absolutely no coaching
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"well said brother, well said", amen.
Posted by: scorpiomike | March 23, 2008 at 09:37 PM
Any team that allows a potential play-off foe to go up by 26 points on your court is not worthy of being an NBA
champion.
Period.
Any team that allows back to back 3s in the closing minutes of a close game is not worthy of being an NBA champion.
Period.
Any team that does not understand that teams will always play their best against you (which means you must always-no matter how mentally tough it might be-prepare to face a tough game each and every night) is not worthy of being an NBA champion.
Period.
And Phoenix is tied in the lost column.
Period.
Posted by: passionate Lakers fan | March 23, 2008 at 09:38 PM
Any team that allows a potential play-off foe to go up by 26 points on your court is not worthy of being an NBA
champion.
Period.
Any team that allows back to back 3s in the closing minutes of a close game is not worthy of being an NBA champion.
Period.
Any team that does not understand that teams will always play their best against you (which means you must always-no matter how mentally tough it might be-prepare to face a tough game each and every night) is not worthy of being an NBA champion.
Period.
And Phoenix is tied in the lost column.
Period.
Posted by: passionate Lakers fan | March 23, 2008 at 09:38 PM
Man, we have to get rid of Luke somehow, someway!
We can't afford to let Phil Jackson get any bad players.
He just loves the challenge of giving bad players chance
and somehow try to get something out of them too much.
When we shipped out Kwame, we were already better
even before Pau came, simply because it was one less
bad player for Phil Jackson to put in the game.
Last year, right until before the playoff, he let SMUSH play.
It's not Luke is Phil's favorite player. It's just that PJ
loves having 1 or 2 players with no skill nor talent,
trying to transform them into something and to be
recognized as the true Master of the game or whatever.
I'm sure if Luke was not at the game today, we would've
won easily.
And Ira Newble is the next Jim Jackson
Posted by: coolhair | March 23, 2008 at 09:39 PM
For all of you keep wondering why the Lakers always gives up late game 3 pointers; it goes back about 1 week ago when Phil Jackson, on television, said that he tells his players don't worry about the opponents' 3 point shooting in the end of games. That the opponents are probably tired and won't hit it anyway. Phil would rather gamble that his stubborn and flawed philosophy will win out over common sense.
I told you before...the Warriors scare me.
Posted by: troy | March 23, 2008 at 09:41 PM
This is a loss clearly on PJ's head. Someone said let them work it out? These guys have been together too long to not to get it by now. If they have not figured it out then they won't.
This loss really taught our guys a real good lesson I suppose if you buy that crap.
He let the team fall so behind wiyhout using Mbenga and Ira and our team had to expend too much energy to catch up. Then to leave Steve Jackson alone on those 3's was inexcusable. At least have Ira in the game to D him up. That is what he was signed for so why let him sit and collect dust.
Sure he does not know the triangle offense that well yet but tell him to D up and he should be fine. Or wait for 10 days to say he is comfortable and release or resign him to leave or sit? PJ use the tools you wee given. Give Luke a rest and let him heal.
Now Kobe spent what 44 minutes as ell as Lamar and Fish getting long minutes. Great way to dole out minutes when we have game against these guys tomorrow again. Need to distribute minutes better especially for run and gun team.
I hope PJ gets his 10th ring this year so he can ride into the sunset in montana and we can get Byron Scott to coach us.
Posted by: JustaLakerFan | March 23, 2008 at 09:42 PM
Mad Money Smith on Lakers talk stated the Lakers probably lost because it is Easter.
Sad.
Posted by: passionate Lakers fan | March 23, 2008 at 09:42 PM
I hope the Lakers lose tommorrow.
It will serve this cocky team right.
Posted by: passionate Lakers fan | March 23, 2008 at 09:44 PM
passionate Lakers fan-
"Any team that allows a potential play-off foe to go up by 26 points on your court is not worthy of being an NBA
champion.
Period.
Any team that allows back to back 3s in the closing minutes of a close game is not worthy of being an NBA champion.
Period.
Any team that does not understand that teams will always play their best against you (which means you must always-no matter how mentally tough it might be-prepare to face a tough game each and every night) is not worthy of being an NBA champion.
Period.
And Phoenix is tied in the lost column.
Period."
The Lakers are missing Pau Gasol and Andrew Bynum.
Period.
We Came Back.
Period.
We are not gonna win every game.
Period.
Tomorrow there will be Revenge.
Period.
-Ajax
Posted by: ajax | March 23, 2008 at 09:47 PM
lamar sounded like he was going to cry in his interview
Posted by: Alex | March 23, 2008 at 09:47 PM
Passionate Laker Fan-
"The return of Drew and Pau has nothing to do with:
Turnovers.
Giving up points off turnovers.
Giving up offensive rebounds.
Not defending the pick and roll.
Leaving the 3 point shoot wide open.
Not playing within the flow of the offense.
I could go on and on."
Really, Passionate Laker? Nothing to do with? Really?
Posted by: ajax | March 23, 2008 at 09:49 PM
So what can Luke Do??? He can't guard grandma! He can't shoot!!! He passes MAINLY because he has no confidence in his shot(AND WHY SHOULD HE); thus, the turnovers!!! Many times LUKE passes because he's just trying to get the ball away from himself. He's not a pressure player. He never makes a big shot. He blows layups, throws the ball away; AND HOW MANY TIMES HAS HE TAKEN A SHOT AND MISSED THE WHOLE GOAL???? LUKE WALTON SUCKS!!! HE STINKS!!! Luke is this year's SMUSH. SOMEBODY, ANYBODY: BUSS FAMILY, PHIL; MAGIC; SOMEBODY PLEASE; SIT LUKE'S A$$ DOWN!!!! PLEASE... IT'S BEYOND RIDICULOUS NOW...
Posted by: scorpiomike | March 23, 2008 at 09:52 PM
I think today's scapegoat is Luke Walton....
Also, whoever knew that a delay of game technical would prove costly....
Posted by: never | March 23, 2008 at 09:53 PM
Ex,
You're spot on. That's the thing that makes the Spurs, though they're not as good as in years past, a very dangerous team. They NEVER beat themselves and they rarely make stupid mistakes. There's no way if the Spurs are playing that game they let Jax get off one of those wide-open threes, much less two.
Posted by: Xodus | March 23, 2008 at 09:54 PM
ONE MORE TIME FOR IDIOTS OVER HERE - COACH CAN DO ONLY SO MUCH. PLAYERS IN THIS LEAGUE ALSO SUPPOSE TO HAVE ANY BRAINS AND THINK INSTEAD OF LEAVING OPEN 3 PT SHOOTER... IF YOU CAN'T UNDERSTAND THIS YOU'RE AS DUMB AS THOSE PLAYERS... I'M OUT
Posted by: LAL_Fan | March 23, 2008 at 09:21 PM
Yes he can do so much but the things he can do he does not, like coaching in the first place. Yes players in the league have brains but if you support bench players sit a thing called fatigue sets in. Coach supposed to have brains too and use his bench and over rely on damaged player called Luke. So where was PJ's brains?
Posted by: JustaLakerFan | March 23, 2008 at 09:55 PM
The off and on play of the Lakers will catch up with them in the play-offs.
I do not believe the Lakers can play like they did tonight and then make it to the Western Conference finals.
I do not consider the Lakers a Western Conference finals team.
There only hope: Trevor returns healthy.
Without a healthy Trevor, the Lakers will be exposed in the backcourt (Kobe can not guard an entire back court by himself).
Posted by: passionate Lakers fan | March 23, 2008 at 09:58 PM
passionate....
I don't believe in taking anything for granted. Nothing is promised to these Lakers. They could finish with the #1 seed in the West or they could miss the playoffs. Either is mathematically possible. Golden State is a good team too. And every game is a learning process. The Lakers corrected their obvious faults in the first half and made it a close game. It's a disappointing loss to be sure, but not the end of the world.
Posted by: bronxlakerfan | March 23, 2008 at 10:00 PM
It.s simple why the Lakers lost...you can't win in the nba when you only play one half....
Posted by: neil | March 23, 2008 at 10:00 PM
Passionate Laker Fan,
I'm with you. There are 2 types of Laker fans; realist and optimists. Optimists always find excuses for the inexcusable and truly believe that Laker performance fallacies are meaningless and will magically disappear next game.
Realist recognize trends in the Laker performance that can deter them from winning future games and accomplishing the overall goal of winning the championship. I think you and I are realists.
Somebody posted that he was anxious to have the Lakers play the Warriors first round, the Suns 2nd round, and the Spurs 3rd round. Huh? To me this is a stupid contention. Those teams are the only 3 teams in the West that can beat the Lakers, why in the hell would he want the Laker to play them? This is why optimists get on my nerves.
Look, the Los Angeles Lakers will not win a championship this year. If they do, it would be from pure luck. But, I'm certain they won't. I still believe the Suns will can beat the Lakers in a 7 game series, and I also believe the Spurs can too. The Lakers' defense is still spotty, and Phil's philosphy of leaving the 3 point shooters open late in the game will do the Lakers in.
Lets hope the Spurs have to play the Suns 1st round. Lets also hope Bynum comes back and neither he nor Pau reinjure themselves.
But even if we get out of the West, Boston is still a better team than the Lakers.
I'm looking at next year as the Lakers NBA year. Still, the playoffs will be fun.
Posted by: troy | March 23, 2008 at 10:00 PM
Wassup Laker Faithful! No worries, that team is a spoiler and will more than likley mess up a few of the best teams before the playoffs.
Tough Loss though- The Warriors are a fun team to watch but are not tough to beat, keep establishing and inside game, even if it is Mbenga and hopefully Lamar plays close to the rim tomorrow. He owned the inside tonight and really should have been given a few foul calls late too. Kobe was cold as ice until late and we lost the flow of the game with his self motivated intensity of making sure we didn’t lose. Damn those games hurt, they have to step up as a team more. I love to see close games and enjoy the Warriors most of the year but that game was the Lakers to take. Hope Phil gets a fire under Radmonivic and his weak D. The way Nelson went at him was a huge clue that Phil should becareful of and our help defense needs to be there for Vrad.
Those guys are so damn crazy with living and dying by the 3...Why we didn't foul at the end, and early in that last 30 seconds to force them to make free throws but never give up a 3!!!
-I don't understand.
Lamar played well and seems to be getting more aggressive, the scary part is he still takes 3's. We gave up on Fisher, who had a hot hand and was taking care of Baron fine. The guy who got us in the game and we forget to reward him. Someone tell Luke he has to be an asset when he is on the floor - or he will be on the pine. I would have rather seen us go small and use a lanky
6'5" Coby Karl then that pathetic defensive effort. Sasha 0 fer 5-went back into hiding, and that guy has to show he belongs every game. I keep thinking that at home he will be able to deliver.
I still haven't seen a Mike T post and honestly think he must be still reading. The blog is great as ever and I totally enjoy reading so keep up the good work Kbros. I expect LakerTom to be at the game tomorrow. Hope you are cheering loud and strong, and Jordan goes for 25! We need to win. That is a possible 1-8 seed matchup and I hate to be paired with the Warriors they are plain scary.
God Bless you MikeT- you should feel happy to have made the best trade in the NBA. Wish I could say I miss Kwame.
Happy Easter.
Posted by: Pete Maguire | March 23, 2008 at 10:01 PM
JustaLakerfan,
"Give Luke a rest and let him heal."
That's a great idea and let's petition that to the Coaching Staff, there is Ira or Coby on the bench to replace Vlad or Sasha. To replace Ronnie, go back to DJ, somehow this 7 footer can block shots and rebound. That's what Kobe, lamar and Fish need, somebody act like Ronnie Turiaf in the post when he's in the bench. For Luke, put him in the injury list and let him recover from bad plays. That is the best PJ mind games can do to help him.
Posted by: Edwin Gueco | March 23, 2008 at 10:02 PM
Lakers champions!! Ha! Ha!
You guys must be dreaming!.
can't even take the bordenline playoff team.
bet you your lakers will be out in 1st round.
Sorry Guys
Warriors All the Time
Posted by: WeBelieve | March 23, 2008 at 10:02 PM
Passionate Laker Fan-
"The return of Drew and Pau has nothing to do with:
Turnovers.
Giving up points off turnovers.
Giving up offensive rebounds.
Not defending the pick and roll.
Leaving the 3 point shoot wide open.
Not playing within the flow of the offense.
I could go on and on."
Really, Passionate Laker? Nothing to do with? Really?
Posted by: ajax | March 23, 2008 at 09:49 PM
Yes.
Posted by: passionate Lakers fan | March 23, 2008 at 10:03 PM