It's all relative, folks
Injury news out of El Segundo after Thursday's practice wasn't overwhelmingly good. Chris Mihm looks surprisingly spry after having a big honkin' surgical screw removed from his foot and could return starting in April. After that, though, the news gets less encouraging. Andrew Bynum is still in the pool and on the elliptical machine. No real estimate on when he'll be back, but he's better off than Trevor Ariza, who still can't get out of the walking boot he's been wearing to protect a broken foot. He could miss the rest of the regular season. At least Kobe has figured out how to play through his pinkie pain, and (knock on wood) shouldn't have to miss time because of it.
But as they prepare to host the Clippers tonight at Staples (7:30 pm, FSN)- here's where the relative part comes in- the Lakers realize things could be a lot worse. After an all-too-brief run to respectability, injuries have laid waste to the LAC this year, dropping them back to a familiar place at the bottom of the Pacific (Division, not Ocean). Now the franchise is in some serious limbo, facing an offseason that could be good, could be Armageddon, or just about anything in between. As center Chris Kaman rather graphically points out here, the Clips haven't beaten anyone good this year, and Phil Jackson is focused on making sure the Lakers don't allow them to buck that trend.
Mike Dunleavy might not lay big odds on the upset. He still believes the Lakers are the best in the league. In that notebook, too are health notes on Kaman (sat out practice Thursday) and Tim Thomas (questionable for tonight).
More MVP talk, this from former Daily News writer Ross Siler's blog with the Salt Lake Tribune:
"There's been an increasing amount of chatter about the LeBron James/Kobe Bryant showdown for MVP this week in the Jazz locker room.
Deron Williams marveled at James' line of 50 points, 10 assists and eight rebounds Wednesday against New York, but the consensus seems to be that Bryant deserves to be MVP by virtue of being older and having led the Lakers to the West's best record.
As someone who voted for Bryant last season, I'm inclined to think the same way. The one thing that gives me pause would be voting for somebody who made as vocal a trade demand as Bryant did last summer, one that threatened to destroy his team.
There's no disputing what Bryant has done this season, but as recently as training camp there were questions about whether he cleaned out his locker in protest. I'm leaning toward James right now, especially given the two games he had against the Jazz."
Siler is as solid and thoughtful a beat writer as there is working in the NBA, so this gives you an idea of the different things voters struggle with and how they arrive at a decision. Kudos to him for making his though process public and letting people hold him accountable.
John Hollinger calls LeBron the league's best.
Dirk? Not thrilled about the suspension that kept him on the sidelines in Dallas' loss to Houston Thursday night.
An interesting exchange between a writer and an agent.
LakerNation,
Who cares who wins MVP..
The only thing that matters to the Laker Fans is when can Bynum get on the treadmill. If he is not on the treadmill by next week my guess is he is done for the season. It's all about Bynum. Someone said the other day NO BYNUM NO CHAMPIONSHIP...how true. I would take a healthy Bynum over a MVP Trophy for Kobe.
BD
Posted by: BD | March 07, 2008 at 02:21 PM
Mamba24 is just another hall monitor taking roll calls please get a new job!!
Just call me Sire
Posted by: Just call me Sire | March 07, 2008 at 02:22 PM
East Coast, West Coast... and Tupac was the greater artist."
For basketball sake... Ok.
Musically, the comparison is at question. That would spiral into another huge MVP type debate. (On a different blog) I have worked with KRS-1, Pete Rock, interviewed Erykah Badu and Bob Power (Engineer for D'Angelo, Nas, Tribe Called Quest, Bob Marley, and many more to name) and chatted with Chad Hugo from the Neptunes... Behind closed doors, the answer of the music theory heads is always Biggie.
Bk to the fullest... Birth to that music is the Bronx...
Posted by: Charles | March 07, 2008 at 02:25 PM
Caliphilosopher and Floyd
In the house!!!
Posted by: Charles | March 07, 2008 at 02:28 PM
Hi Laker Nation and others just hanging out!
Eager to see the bench get extended minutes tonight.
HmrHed: Thanks for the repost from the Mavs blog. I enjoyed it because I am definitely not a M Cuban fan. I really hate how he's always front & center- the "face" of the team as it were. Glad Kobe's the face of the Lakers and glad the Buss family has the good sense to use the owner's box. But that was a bit harsh regarding A.J. Yikes!
Jon K: I'd also like the K bros to do an interview with the medical/training staff. The last few years (remember K Malone's never ending knee injury?) it seems guys never come back when they're supposed to or else it turns out to be a worse/different injury than originally diagnosed. Might just be my perception of the situation, but inquiring minds and all that...
Looking for another win tonight....all the way to 60.... and we'll see the east in the Finals!
Posted by: Jesse | March 07, 2008 at 02:29 PM
I can't believe you guys,
You still talking about that Kobe vs LeBron?
Unfortunately for the fans, it is not up to us to decide who should or should not win that award which in my opinion I think Kobe cares less.
For God sake... save the energy and wish those guys like Ariza, Bynum and Mihm to return and help this Lakers get that trophy that is more important than MVPs awards.
The MVP award like like I said above is not up to us to decide or vote... reporters or the media or whatever do that.. and if you guys don't want to be stressed out... forget about it until April because you know who the favor is for those reporters or media.
What LeBron James is doing right now, that kid (who we Lakers fan want to win) has already done it and never won anything... According to them, it wasn't about numbers but about making everyone involved and still winning. Now that the kid is doing it, they (media, reporters) all of sudden are changing the discs saying that Mr: 23 has better numbers.
What does it say to you guys??
At the end of the day, I believe we Lakers fans would be more pleased to see the Lakers winning the championship than see Kobe get the MVP award or PJ win the COY etc etc.
Its all about promotions... and LeBron right now is the favorite or the Golden kid for the media and prove of it is that we are not hearing so much about last night game and his perfomance on National television than we heard about a night before on NBA LP.
Maxx
Posted by: Maxximo | March 07, 2008 at 02:34 PM
Hey guys, bad news.
I went down to the Pacific Sea and got some Liquid Minerals (I think there was some seaweed in there too), but the ziplock bags broke in the car when I hit a pothole on my way to El Segundo, so I wasn't able to get Ariza or Bynum to drink any of them. Now the back seat of my car is all wet and smelly too, and my buddy thinks he sat on a starfish.
My bad everyone, my bad.
Posted by: J. Walter Weatherman | March 07, 2008 at 02:49 PM
Charles ~
Love you man. But, I'm a westcoast hip hop kid from the 'ol school. The Biggie 2pac issue is worse than the Kobe v Lebron. Biggie was a lyricis while 2Pac was more of a messenger. If you really listen to both Biggie had lyrics, style and a very unique delivery for his time. While Pac brough up issues and gave insight that are still missing from most of today's rap/hip hop. 2pac wrote songs of substance. Dear Mama, Brenda's having a Baby. I 'm a huge Biggie fan but can't name on cut that he delived knowledge on outside of ghetto knowledge. 2pac had begun to reinvent himself as he was growing to understand the industry and his place within.. I believe had he been alive today to witness some of what's going on he'd be more of a hip hop Marvin Gaye (mercy, Mercy Me... What's goin' on") While Biggie was simply the King of hip hop movement for those of us how desired lyrics. We'd still be rewinding Biggie now to hear that choice of rhyme and style again and again. too bad he didn't spend as much time recording like Pac. I've worked with several of the big names of the past as well. Like you said on another blog. Cause this one is all about the Purple & Gold!
Posted by: lakerfaze | March 07, 2008 at 02:53 PM
J. Walter Weatherman very funny incident re: Liquid Mineral and I am wondering if Jon K is going to try to do a better job of getting the liquid Sea Mineral to the players..Where is Jon K aka Liquid Sea Mineral ha ha ha!!
la la le lo lum, fi fi fe fo fum...
Just Call me Sire
Posted by: Just Call me Sire | March 07, 2008 at 02:57 PM
Tim-4-Show
Let our life's stories be a lesson to those younger ones out there... the relationship can survive different ethnicities, different tastes, different family styles, but you can NEVER comprimise the Lakers.
Well said! Post of the day!
Liquid sea minerals tacos for all!
Posted by: Lakers Legacy | March 07, 2008 at 03:00 PM
J. Walter Weatherman,
Great idea. Terrible delivery.
First of all, you HAVE to get the sea water from protected and isolated areas with certain currents in mind (think remote Australia, South Pacific, deep ocean, Antartica, etc.). Why? If not, you risk the possibility of pollutants, particularly mercury from industrial processes.
Second, you have to concentrate the sea water through non-chemical means (usually through solar evaporation).
Third, you have to remove almost all the sodium through natural means. (Honestly, I'm not sure how they do this.)
And what you get is an extremely mineral rich liquid with a full spectrum of bioavailable minerals and trace minerals, all of which the body needs on a daily basis and many of which people are notably deficient in (particularly magnesium).
A standard dose for health is just a half teaspoon daily. To heal from bone injury, roughly a teaspoon and a half daily. More is fine, though the high levels of magnesium can make a person have to go to the bathroom a lot.
(By the way, the stuff is the FOULEST stuff you've ever tasted. Only the brave drink it straight.)
So, J. Walter Weatherman, if you want to help the Lakers, go online and have the stuff sent straight to Gary Vitti. Otherwise, if you give them sea water from Santa Monica Bay, you're just going to make them sick.
GO LAKERS!
Posted by: Jon K. | March 07, 2008 at 03:07 PM
LakerFaze,
Go to www.concretegrooves.com and get my info from there. I'll have you call in from my show on sirius. You obviously saw i wrote on another blog but still decided to ignore that with your post.
Trust me, this has gone longer than ever but just examine how one died vs the other... You can relay which artists you've worked with my email...
hope to chat with you soon.
Posted by: Charles | March 07, 2008 at 03:11 PM
Charles you just anothe name dropper..please find a real job..
Just Call Me Sire
Posted by: Just Call me Sire | March 07, 2008 at 03:11 PM
Charles,
There was more to the analogy than just the music.
Biggs had a smoother voice and a much more subtle musical style. Pac spit lyrics and the guy was a MACHINE and workaholic. He would pull over on sepulveda because it just hit him... he'd pull out a scratch piece of paper, and just write and write... it was like he was possessed. Then, one guy was just big stature wise and one was smaller stature wise... one guy was on top long before the other, and then went ballistic when he thought his east coast rival was stepping to overtake his thrown...
Very analogous... musically, I'd agree with you, but lyrically, no way... but the point was, this battle reminds me somewhat of that one.
Posted by: Tim-4-Show | March 07, 2008 at 03:17 PM
I couldn't read all the posts but I'm sure somebody has touched on this. These guys are making up reasons NOT to vote for Kobe for MVP. Last year the argument was that he was the only good player on the team and that if he had another good player and the Lakers were challenging for a title, THEN he would be an MVP candidate.
Now this year, Lebron is in Kobe's situation from last year and they're making up any excuse they can think of to say that Lebron should get the MVP. Obviously, the whole thing is personal and focused more on off-court issues with Kobe than any real on-court considerations.
I'm at the point where I don't want to see Kobe win the MVP, it just shows how absurd the MVP vote is to begin with. Everywhere Kobe goes, people chant "M-V-P", he's been the de-facto MVP the last 3 years. Who's kidding who? If you were drafting a team in ANY of the last 3 years and you had the first pick, who would you pick, Nash or Kobe? Give me a friggin break! LOL! Yet Nash holds the MVP's... hmmmm....
Posted by: TaosHum | March 07, 2008 at 03:17 PM
Weatherman,
You've gotta be more careful dude. We can't afford another mishap like this.
Posted by: Xodus | March 07, 2008 at 03:18 PM
Hollinger
John did not mention defense a single time in his article.
GM survey (Oct. 2007)
Which player best defends the passing lanes in the NBA? Kobe 2nd
Who is the best on-the-ball defender in the NBA? Kobe 2nd
Who is the best perimeter defender in the NBA? Kobe 3rd
Who is the best defensive player in the NBA? Kobe 3rd
Considering that LeBron didn't make the cut in any of these categories and Kobe is playing the best defense of his career this year, I think Hollinger should reconsider his opinion. Obviously a case can be made for LeBron at the offensive end of the court, but on defense its not even close. John you need to watch more games and read fewer box scores
Posted by: giantsquid | March 07, 2008 at 03:25 PM
Something just occurred to me.
The best Chinese player in the league is Yao.
The second best Chinese player in the league is Yi.
Both are very good.
The Lakers own the rights to a Chinese guy named Yue.
Watch for future Chinese players named Yo, Yeh, Yie, and
Yippy!
Posted by: Long Time Laker Fan | March 07, 2008 at 03:27 PM
Just Call me Sire,
Lol! I love it man.
Posted by: Charles | March 07, 2008 at 03:28 PM
The locker cleanout was a rumor started by the media, and now Silers wants to use that against Kobe?
Just like they claimed no player wanted to play with Kobe, and then held that against Kobe.
Ridiculous logic.
Posted by: gdchild | March 07, 2008 at 03:30 PM
Tim-4-Show,
Repost
Go to www.concretegrooves.com and get my info from there. I'll have you call in from my show on sirius. You obviously saw i wrote on another blog but still decided to ignore that with your post.
Trust me, this has gone longer than ever but just examine how one died vs the other... You can relay which artists you've worked with my email...
hope to chat with you soon.
Respect Ill have very interesting points of views from Q' Jones. Pac was dating his daughter. Or should I say another hole on the bely buckling Q's daughter.
Posted by: Charles | March 07, 2008 at 03:31 PM
I rest my case ...
Posted by: Taliq | March 07, 2008 at 12:46 PM
You can add that Kobe is the ONLY player past and present being cheered in not only one but various opponents arena (Celtics, Kings, Bobcats, Hawks, Wizards, etc.). That is why he is The People's MVP. Who gives a damn about that biased writers MVP. Long live the People's choice.
Kobe, Kobe, Kobe!!!
Posted by: Lakergurl | March 07, 2008 at 03:31 PM
Just Call Me Sire you're just another troll.......find some kind of job........any kind
Posted by: toad | March 07, 2008 at 03:33 PM
Charles - that's rather awesome!
Since you know a bit about music, and since I have some downtime to spare between lakers games out here in Lubbock, can you shoot me a way in which I can get a beginner's book (or something of that nature) on how to play the guitar? Maybe you have some insight; the people here don't really have anything for me, because they are self-taught.
And I still think you're a star, no matter what some "Sire" person has to say.
Posted by: Caliphilosopher | March 07, 2008 at 03:38 PM
LOS ANGELES LAKERS PLAYING WITH A FULL DECK?
by Paul Peszko (Contributor) for the Bleacher Report
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/12075-NBA-Los_Angeles_Lakers-Lakers_Playing_With_a_Full_Deck_-070308
I usually don’t even read most of the Bleacher Report posts because the quality is so poor but this is a well done and intriguing take by Paul Peszko, who basically surmises that the Lakers deliberately misrepresented Bynum’s and Ariza’s injuries to be less serious than they actually were in order to lure the Suns and Mavs into making foolish late season deals.
Although Paul ties it all together nicely, I think the motivation for the Suns and the Mavs to make the deals they did would have been even greater if they thought that Bynum and Ariza were out until next year. Both teams realized that their windows were closing and would have jumped even faster if they thought the Lakers were more vulnerable.
At any rate, a nicely built article that is well written and enjoyable in its poker analogies.
Tom
Posted by: LakerTom | March 07, 2008 at 03:40 PM
STOP comparing athletes with rappers, if you like rap then its fine and please continue to enjoy. Rap and hip hop has nothing to do with NBA as a sport.
There is a growing concern that one day NBA will end up being run by rappers with violent past. That is why David Stern expects NBA players to wear nicer attire than what Allan Iverson was wearing 'head gear etc."
Charles Wrote " Biggie was a lyricis while 2Pac was more of a messenger." which really means that both of them were mean and violent and thus it is no secret that they ended up six feet under the ground.
Posted by: The Real Truth | March 07, 2008 at 03:40 PM
Charles -
Took the info. Look forward to chatting w/ ya. I'm a Xm dude (more urban choices) but my girl has sirius, so hopefully I can check out your show. We'll keep it Lakers in here I understood that. Much love!
Faze
Posted by: LakerFaze | March 07, 2008 at 03:41 PM
Lakergurl: "You can add that Kobe is the ONLY player past and present being cheered in not only one but various opponents arena (Celtics, Kings, Bobcats, Hawks, Wizards, etc.)."
Don't forget the Clippers.
Posted by: Marty | March 07, 2008 at 03:42 PM
Caliphilosopher ,
Thanks man. I'd love to get into a friendly exchange with Tim-4-Sho and lakerfaze. Quite passionate about Urban Music. Looks like they know what they are talking about and Satellite never gets callers unless they are guests. And I'd love to have those two on the mic....
Posted by: Charles | March 07, 2008 at 03:43 PM
AK/BK
If Lebron James wins the MVP on a middle average team (35-27), the media owes some apology to Kobe. Or probably, they've change the criteria in selecting the MVP. The last 2 seasons Kobe is the leagues scoring leader on an average team when he led the Lakers to a 45-37(2005-2006) record and last year to a (42-40). And yet, he did'nt even land in the top 2. And now, he is playing the best game of his entire career by leading the Lakers (43-18) to the top. And some media personalities like Hollinger, Dwyer, TJ Simers, Siler can't appreciate. Don't tell me Lebron's gonna win the MVP with Cavs being the 4th seeded team?
Posted by: Botsoy | March 07, 2008 at 03:43 PM
Just Call Me Sire,
My assistant says the same thing too! Because I blog and work, Just Call Me Tired...
Posted by: Charles | March 07, 2008 at 03:46 PM
Tim-4-Show Laker Faze,
Please email me soon. I have a link for you guys. You may like it if you guys are "Golden Era" guys....
Regards and Respect...
Posted by: Charles | March 07, 2008 at 03:49 PM
Long Time,
“Something just occurred to me.
The best Chinese player in the league is Yao.
The second best Chinese player in the league is Yi.
Both are very good.
The Lakers own the rights to a Chinese guy named Yue.
Watch for future Chinese players named Yo, Yeh, Yie, and
Yippy!”
---------
That was borderline, Long Time. Minny, Miney, Minny, Mo.
Less Hop Sing and more Bruce Lee in the future, please.
Remember this public service reminder:
“Well, you know how those people are about naming their kids?”
“No, I don’t know what you mean.”
Tom
Posted by: LakerTom | March 07, 2008 at 03:49 PM
LakerFaze! Tim-4-Show
Thanks for the reply! Email me sirs!!!!!
Posted by: Charles | March 07, 2008 at 03:55 PM
LakerTom,
I've been saying this for a month now! Although I don't agree with the reason. The reason the Lakers didn't announce the "real" seriousness of the injury I believe is due to ticket sales. Why erase all hope to Laker fans until the playoffs have started? If they delay the announcement, they give fans hope and sell more seats. The Lakers have done this in the past with Shaq...Why change now..
Posted by: zen | March 07, 2008 at 04:03 PM
The Utah bloggers sem to be very credible and sensible fans. Pretty muc h all of the comments to Siler were thoughtful, and correct. Let's not ferget that Utah is one of the more conservative states also. even they ca see what is happening ON THE COURT. Where an award should be won.
Posted by: wondahbap | March 07, 2008 at 04:04 PM
I agree on the MVP thing. It will p*ss me off if LBJ gets the nod when everyone has been going on about giving to to a player that not only has made everyone around him better, but has to be on a top seeded team and turned his squad into a contender. That to me SCREAMS Kobe Bean Bryant!
But then again it is all politics when it come to that hardware. Doesn't mean we have to like it. Maybe KB needs to start offering a few more interviews with out-of-town (read: out-of-touch) beat writers more often.
TWoody
Posted by: TWoody | March 07, 2008 at 04:06 PM
The Real Truth,
(Charles Wrote " Biggie was a lyricis while 2Pac was more of a messenger.")
I never wrote that...
Check it well.
Posted by: Charles | March 07, 2008 at 04:07 PM
>>>Last year the argument was that he was the only good
>>>player on the team and that if he had another good
>>>player and the Lakers were challenging for a title,
>>>THEN he would be an MVP candidate.
No, that wasn't quite it. The argument was that the Lakers didn't do
well enough for him to be considered (sort of in the
"best player on one of the best teams" school of voting).
Two years ago is actually a better comparison to LeBron's
current season -- Kobe was leading the league in scoring (and
by a much larger margin), his team finished 8 games above
.500, was the #6 seed in the Western conference, and had the
10th best record in the league.
And the argument was that he was statistically the best player in the
NBA (which is the brunt of Hollinger's case for LeBron), but that his
team wasn't one of the best teams in the NBA so he didn't deserve it.
So now of course, when the Lakers ARE one of the best teams in the
NBA and Kobe's stats are still among the league's best, they want to
change the standard and say, oh, you can be the MVP if you're on the
14th best team in the league, as long as your stats are the best.
Note that not everybody feels like Hollinger, but lots of guys who
actually get a vote do.
Basically, there are no standards for how to select the MVP, so it all
comes down to you choose the guy you want to win for whatever
arbitrary reason and then you make up a standard by which you
voted for that player.
Posted by: Long Time Laker Fan | March 07, 2008 at 04:18 PM
**forgot
Posted by: wondahbap | March 07, 2008 at 04:22 PM
**forget
Posted by: wondahbap | March 07, 2008 at 04:23 PM
Sigh,
Very good post earlier in the day regarding the 10 reasons why Kobe should get the MVP.
Another thing, PJ does not gennerally put a lot of weight into individual trophies, awards and accolades. I have heard him a few times, as has most of us here, about giving Kobe the MVP. Last year he said no, not Kobe this year. Shoot even Shaq said that Kobe was the best player in the NBA. If that doesn't wake up a few people I dont know what will.
TWoody
Posted by: TWoody | March 07, 2008 at 04:23 PM
i can still remember the MVP battle in the 1996-97 season between Michael Jordan and Karl Malone. Jordan led the Bulls with the NBA best(69-13) and Malone with the Jazz with a second best (64-18). And yet Malone won the MVP. That motivated MJ during the playoff and beat the Jazz 4-2. DON'T TO THAT TO KOBE OR ELSE HE WILL BE MOTIVATED AND LEAD THE LAKERS TO THE CHAMPIOSHIP. OR JUST GIVE THE MVP TO LEBRON AND THE LAKERS WILL TAKE THE LARRY O'BRIEN TROPHY...GO LAKERS
Posted by: Botsoy | March 07, 2008 at 04:40 PM
Lebron absolutely cannot win MVP for the same reason Kobe didn't win several years ago: They CAVS are not leading their division.
Garnett, Kobe, and Duncan should be the only guys even being considered. As Ive posted a hundred times before, only one NBA player has ever won MVP without winning their division and that was Charles Barkley.
Posted by: zen | March 07, 2008 at 04:40 PM
Tim-4-Show,
Bloggers this is about the comparison from MC prowess work ethic to basketball players. Skip it if your tired of anything involving Lebron or Kobe...
"Biggs had a smoother voice and a much more subtle musical style."
I believe that would've been Kobe not LBJ. Kobe is more smooth compared to LBS power.
"Pac spit lyrics and the guy was a MACHINE and workaholic. He would pull over on sepulveda because it just hit him... he'd pull out a scratch piece of paper, and just write and write... it was like he was possessed."
Pac may have freestyled once at the Wake Up show and Hot 97 was denied several times from Pac's management group due to his preference not to flow during on session interviews. Biggie has called in and has been a guest and always freestyles at any place acapella's or not. Anywhere from KMEL to South France with MC Solaar.
The same for LBJ. Here's an article in 2004 when Lebron was admitting that was working hard during the off season. One year after he was drafted.
http://www.insidehoops.com/james-interview-112104.shtml
http://tinyurl.com/32slfz
I don't doubt Kobe's work ethic, but there's a reason LBJ is in contention.
Funny, I only posted once about the Kobe vs LBJ. (A letter to JA Andande ) And I was vying for #24. Now it has lead to a metaphorical exchange from player to mic maestro. Either way, comparisons were from entertainers. Thanks for the exchange and I love this blog.
Posted by: Charles | March 07, 2008 at 04:46 PM
Zen,
"Lebron absolutely cannot win MVP for the same reason Kobe didn't win severl years ago: They CAVS are not leading their division. Garnett, Kobe, and Duncan should be the only guys even being considered. As Ive posted a hundred times before, only one NBA player has ever won MVP without winning their division and that was Charles Barkley."
Just for the sake of clarification, Kareem actually won MVP in '76 when the Lakers not only didn't win the division, but had a losing record (40-42) to boot. But this is also the rare exception that proves the overwhelmingly general rule, which illustrates your basic point.
AK
Posted by: Andrew Kamenetzky | March 07, 2008 at 04:47 PM
AK,
Forgot about that one. Everyone must have sucked back then!
Posted by: zen | March 07, 2008 at 04:54 PM
Zen
not only Charles Barkley. Michael Jordan won his first MVP during the 1987-88 season with the Bulls only in 3rd place in their division(50-32) and 7th in the entire NBA. Not only he won his first MVP. he won the NBA's Defensive Player of the Year, Won the MVP in the All Stars the same year. i doubt if Lebron can match those feat. Kobe has the tools to do that. winning the Defensive player for Kobe is easy if he concentrate. Next year that will be Kobe's motivation. Winning the MVP, Defensive player of the Year and the All Star MVP. Kobe, kobe
Posted by: Botsoy | March 07, 2008 at 05:00 PM
Charles, you making me want to break out my underground CD's with Biggie, Pac, Nas, Big L and others..
BTW, I am partial to BIGGIE, Bed-Stuy is one of my ole neighborhoods but I grew up in Queens so I def have madd love for Nas, he is one of my favs..But Pac, Big and Pac were def two of the most Prophetic rappers to ever rock the mic..
Case ya didn't know, I dj on the side..so I do have my share of collectables..
Funny about the rapper analysis with LeBron and Kobe..Kobe's rap album was quite a treat I will say..I have it on my Serato. Lets just say he reminds me of a cooler version of Will Smith...
Glad he stuck to basketball..
Posted by: lakersrydeordie | March 07, 2008 at 05:07 PM
Wow. Michael Jordan won everything except a title that year...He could have made history with that season! Of course, he's Michael Jordan..Easily in the top 3 of all time.
Posted by: zen | March 07, 2008 at 05:07 PM