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6-12th Men of the Year

The NBA only hands out an official award to the first man off an NBA bench, but for the Lakers, their entire reserve panel's work merits some kind of cash prize, ribbon or smiley face.  If you ask one Kobe Bean Bryant, his pine boys are the cat's pajamas.  In particular, the work of Sasha Vujacic, Ronny Turiaf and Jordan Farmar has stood out in bright, shiny fashion.  Of course, if you're gonna credit the young Farmar, some props need to be simultaneously tossed in old man Fish's direction.  The effectiveness of the purple and gold bench has been pretty obvious all season, but if any further evidence of their prowess is required, compare the Laker second unit to that of their opponent during tonight's match against the hapless Heat.  Frankly, Miami's first unit ain't world's better.

September inspires Earth Wind and Fire to boogie, Neil Diamond to get sentimental and Kobe Bryant to have his hand fixed. 

As the Cassell turns, his perceived quest to become P.J. Brown's teammate remains in limbo.  In the meantime, if a playoff team is interested in shopping at Bed, Bath and Giricek, it may be open for business.  And if these three or other free agents (wanna be or otherwise) don't join your roster, it's never too early to start thinking about the summer.

That sound you hear is the blogosphere puking in harmony at an LBJ milestone achieved.

On the plus side, Jamaal Tinsley's looking more upstanding to Pacers fans of late.

Comments

Good Morning! I love this blog and I hope our team executes the offense and give us the poetry in motion for a thursday night!

Good morning, Blog Family! (Good morning, Charles!)

Ten in a row tonight!

The drive for 55 is alive and on it's way to 60!

It's Game Day, Lakers Nation! My week is dominated by schedule of the Lakers. I woke up this morning excited and ready to watch the boys go for number 10 in a row. It's been a loooooooooooong time since we've been able to shoot for that, huh? This is one of those "trap" games. I'm hoping that the Lakers come out and put the hammer down straight away. Let's build a 16-point halftime lead and never look back.

Go Lakers!

Hey, first to post. Sweeeeeeeeeeeeeet. I have tix to tonight's game and I can't wait! I was looking forward to yelling at Shaq and calling him a tub of over-paid lard, but I guess I'll have to watch the Matrix crumble in the 4th and D-Wade run into a defender or bump into a gaurd and get to the line 23 times tonight. Go Lakers, people should stop hating on Luke Walton, he's our modern day Kurt Rambis (minus the Clark Kent glasses, which I was happy to see on short shorts night) because he is so forgettable he can impact the game in ways unforseen. L.O. is looking better and better and Kobe may or may not win the MVP based solely on what position the lakers finish in. 1st in the West, 2nd over-all...I'd say it goes to Billups or Garnet. Noone ever mentions Chauncey and he is a stone-cold killer on the floor.

Forgot to say... Good morning, Charles.

Dang...someone beat me. Ah well. GO LAKERS!!!!!!!

PS: I love the Captain's blog, if the NBA had Oscar's Kareem would win the lifetime achievement award.

One last thing: Sasha Vujacic or Jordan Farmar should edge Ginobli (aka the Drunken Master) for 6th Man of Year. He's a starter. He'll start in the Playoffs. Popovich is a great coach, but a real whiner (at least in print, never had a chance to chat him up) when it comes to the rest of the league trying to beat his team. Hey gregg, even though your team ain't playing like it, you ARE the defending champs. For now...

Lifetime Laker Fan (since 1974)

Jamie

Does Larry Bird just love criminals or something? The Knicks and the Pacers are like a basketball version of MSNBC's "Lock Up."

Thank God Kwame "Cake-gate" and "Chickenhead-gate" Brown is gone.

We've got a team we can root for.

GO LAKERS!

Xodus,

I think you're 100% spot on regarding the Shaq trade. Almost all of us knew it was a recipe for disaster, but we also knew Phoenix had little chance of making the NBA finals. As it is now, they have even less of a chance. When they made the trade, they were the "top" team in the western conference standings, and as such, it would be somewhat conceivable that they could be a favorite to come out of the west.

They do have more of a low post presence, but you're correct again in pointing out the obvious (that almost all of the media never really mentioned), they lost their best defender. My guess is, Amare is loving this because he can put up gaudy stats. The only problem is, their team is worse off. If they were going to trade someone, they definitely traded the wrong guy. Then you get into Shaq's bigger than life.... contract. You wonder why I say Pat Riley is the executive of the year? Getting rid of that contract and getting an all-star in return was the most incredible feat I've seen from a GM since he unloaded Brian Grant on us. You can already see, Miami is a better team and they have a MUCH brighter future now, whereas, you're spot on... the Suns will be wishing for that 2010 pick because it will likely be a nice one.

exhelodrvr, you're right, the Suns needed to do something, but the problem is, they're now saddled with a $20 million contract for next season AND the season after! Meanwhile, their other stars aren't getting any younger, and they've perpetually given away their draft picks year after year. This Suns team will collapse worse than the Blazers ever did. Someone said it and I believe it for a different reason, but the Suns have just become the Phoenix Heat, now watch them implode. The question will be, does Amare want to stay there and put up big numbers, or will he want to go somewhere and win?

AK/BK,

No mention of Von Wafer's assassination of the Clippers last night? He played like 30 minutes!

What are the Lakers going to do with a force like Von Wafer dominating the hardwood?

GO LAKERS!

That was a great article about Fisher.

To put in a true leader as well as a very solid player like Fisher in while subtracting a malcontent like Smush, has just worked wonders. I think Fisher's affect on the team is comparable to adding Gasol. Not that he is anywhere as good as Gasol but he is just what we needed and it was at the right time. I like what Farmar said about Fisher being a leader. "...he doesn't push it and try to be a leader. He just is."

Ex,

I think we're going to have to agree disagree until the Suns' season ends and we see the manner in which it ends. Right now we're operating on two different wavelengths. You think the trade was reasonable, I think it was crazy for Phoenix.

I wonder if Patrick O'Bryant would be a good pickup for us in the offseason? He's still young and we've only got friggin KAREEM ABDUL JABBAR sitting here, looking for another "big" to train. The guy wants to play but I'd say he could only do 15-20 mins/game max anyway so he'd be perfect to backup Bynum. Just a thought:

O'Bryant looking forward to leaving Warriors
Thursday, Feb 28, 2008 12:16 pm EST

Second-year Golden State Warriors center Patrick O'Bryant would welcome a move. O'Bryant is all but certain to pack up and go elsewhere once the season is over.

"I'll play anywhere I'll (get a chance to) play," O'Bryant said. "I'm a basketball player, not a basketball watcher." This much is clear: He doesn't plan on signing up voluntarily to serve under Warriors coach Don Nelson again. Obviously, if something weird were to happen, and Nellie didn't (have his option picked up), then maybe," O'Bryant said of a return to the team that selected him No. 9 overall in 2006 but this summer declined to pick up his third-year option.

And if Nelson does get asked by the team to fulfill the final year of his contract? "Then it probably wouldn't be my first choice," O'Bryant said with a wry smile.''

Source: Oakland Tribune

I know we laugh about Von Wafer, but the guy does have athletic talent and some basketball skill.

I tink Von Wafer suffered from Vujacic syndrome... this is where you have a lot of skill, but due to pressure or something psychological, it just does not shine.

The cure for Vujacic syndrome is to get plenty of consistent PT.

Then, in a few months, the fans will cheer your name.

Von Wafer played up to par with Al Thornton last night, and yep, not a mention of it here in the Von Wafer fan club.

O'Bryant sounds like a malcontent.

Looking forward to the roll call, Mamba24... Come on, get us fired up for the game!

Honestly, the Suns is an elite team. The only reason that they acquired Shaq is to win the championship. So, the way to evaluate Shaq is to see if Shaq can bring the Suns a championship. Anything else should be considered a failure. Looking the games that the Suns played with the other championship contenders, it is clear that they cannot. It doesn't matter how Shaq makes his teammates better or the Suns change the entire approach of playing, they are not going to win the championship with Shaq. The Marion/Shaq trade is a wash, at best. On top of that, the Suns play Shaq as if he is an antique china, those that people keep in the closet most of the time and only display them on special occasions. I didn't look at the stat but I can safely say that Marion was a full-time ballplayer. Shaq, shall we say, a part-time center? I made a prediction earlier - by the time Shaq misses his 40th free-throws, Suns' fans will discover the sham and start booing. Otherwise, I give too much credit to the intelligence of Suns' fans.

Bzar - The Outlaw,

Chest Pound and Point at cha'

Tim-4-Show,

The other thing that gets me is that people say that the playoffs slow down so the full effect of Shaq won't be felt until the playoffs. The game slowing down in the postseason is not a rule. It's just that generally, the way you want to beat a team in the playoffs is by limiting possessions and locking in on them in the halfcourt. Now, the way to beat them is to speed the game up because they can no longer keep up.

I wouldn't be surprised to see Phoenix lose in the first round of the playoffs.

Jon K./Tim-4-Show,

I was running late with putting up today's post, and in my rush, I forgot to mention Von Wafer's prowess last night against the Clips. But you are correct. It was a glorious night for the Lakersblog icon.

BK was actually at the game for some other work and got to witness the career night up close and in person. He admitted to being a little giddy.

AK

Sasha is nowwhere near Vonnator status. Dude is a superstar lol, jk. If for nothing else coz of the love the famous K Bros gives him lol.

Kobe: "Best bench in the league." I don't know about that. Considering that overall our bench has struggled mightily with some exceptions (Ronny, Sasha, Jordan). Once we get Drew back and Trevor back, then we'll really have the best bench in the league. I could see us going 11 deep, without losing rhythm.

Jamie Sweet,

Sorry, but you couldn't be more biased in saying Farmar or Vujacic deserve the 6th man over Ginobili. Ginobili is playing lights out and is mentioned as one of the top 10 MVP candidates (which I don't necessarily agree with). I take your point that he has been starting games, but I believe any player who comes off the bench in more games than he starts is eligible for the 6th man. And Ginobili has the award locked down.

The Lakers' second string are second to none!

Kobe's much talked about improvement is obviously a direct result of the major improvement of the young ones.

Give credit to all: the players first and foremost, the coaches, and, of course, Kobe. He was finally able to instill his winning ways to all the guys in the team, that includes the injured players.

And please, the Sacramento Kings use to call their guys "The Bench Mob" so let's come up with something better because our guys are definitely much better!

GO LAKERS!!!

I have to say Utah was impressive last night. They showed a lot of fire and tenacity in overcoming the Pistons. The Lakers definitely have the edge over them, but they would be a formidable matchup in the playoffs.

Lakers are the only team in the L that have at least 3 QUALITY players that can play in each position:
1. Center: Bynum, Gasol, Turiaf
2. PF: Gasol, Odom, Turiaf, Vlad, Walton
3. SF: Odom, Kobe, Vlad, Ariza, Walton
4. SG: Kobe, Sasha, Fisher, Ariza
5. PG: Fisher, Farmar, Sasha
That's why even with 4 injured players at the moment, LA is still leading the L and continue building it's lead. The best bench in the L even when we are down to an 8 man rotation. We should beat Miami, Portland and Dallas in short order.

Miami simply does not have the talent. Wade is not 100% physically. Marion can not beat you by himself- he is a franchise player only in his own mind. Look for a Coby Karl and a Mbenga sighting early in the 4th quarter as PJ rests the starters for a back-to-back.

Lakers will take Portland more seriously next time and will be more focused playing on the road. Their best player Roy may not be back by then. Lakers will expect the physical play and respond accordingly. Just stay away from those technicals!

Game of the week will be Dallas-Lakers Sunday. Our Euro versus their Euro. Gasol will eat up Dampier. LO has the length and the quickness to guard the German fellow. Howard will be a challenge for Luke and if he blows by Luke too many times, we'll see Kobe playing a lot of SF. Too bad, we could have used Ariza on this one. Kobe will dominate Terry or if he switches to SF, Sasha will play SG and can get in Terry's face who is a finesse player anyway. Fish will probably do a better job guarding Kidd than Farmar simply bec. of the experience factor, and Fish has the strength to use against Kidd who is stronger and taller than most PGs.

Our bench versus their bench: Farmar, Turiaf, Sasha versus Stackhouse and their new boy Magliore - I'll take our chances ten out of ten times.
Kobe will be pumped for the Dallas game, and has always eaten up the Dallas non-defense: look for at least 30 points even while he focuses on facilitating instead of scoring.
12 straight by end of Sunday.

Good morning everyone

I have a question, when was the last time Luke was at the free throw line? I really can't remember the last time he got a free throw.

What other team has a bench that can come in and take a lead when the starting unit struggles? Can't think of too many. Bench Mob rules!

Xodus, Tim-4-Show, PJ doubter,

I think the only explanation for the Suns trade is that they panicked. Considering how well they were playing and that they were 2 suspensions away from getting the finals last year, taking such a huge gamble didn't make any sense. I understand the issues they had with Marion, but have people forgotten that the instant cure-all in basketball is a championship? Winning championships was the only thing what kept Shaq and Kobe together for a mini dynasty...

The Lakers have the potential to win 10 games in a row. Sasha, Farmar, Ronny and the bench are playing well. I predict the Lakers to lose today. The West is a very tight race and the Lakers need to keep up their pace. I just threw my prediction in the middle of this paragraph hoping nobody would recognize it.

Good Morning Blog!!!!

Good morning Charles, Jon K, Bzar, The Outlaw, Xodus, Tim-4-Show, AK, BK, TaosHum, Faith, DK, all the bloggers here and Mamba24 where are you for roll call!!!!!!!

10 in a row tonight, let's make Miami look badddddddd on national TV again.

KOBE FOR MVP!!!
KOBE FOR MVP!!!
KOBE FOR MVP!!!

Miami Coach Pat Riley, describing to reporters his happiness after the Heat ended an 11-game losing streak by beating Sacramento on Tuesday to reach 10 victories on the season: "I feel like a mosquito in a nudist colony. I know what to do. I just don't know where to start."

This little mosquito could be tanking games to get that draft advantage. What is good about Shaq's trade, the Suns are stucked with Shaq's for two years more, but Riley started asking questions to Marion & Banks whether they want to continue their career with Miami. With a player's option on Marion's contract next year, this could be an amicable settlement by trading him at earliest convenience in July thereby, Riles found a cap space replacement of Big Cactus plus a low draft pick.

IMO, Riles has been in the arena for too long as President/Coach, he should give other young coaches the chance to provide new ideas. Since he is in town for the game tonight, we should thank him for the memories of Showtime, it sounds like the nostalgic Rag Doll era, the best of the Laker years.

Being a Laker Fan we all love to search the net for Laker stories but a funny thing happened when Shaq was traded to the Suns. I love searching the net for Suns articles that have Sun Fans cutting there wrist and wondering how did this happen to them. I get to laugh for an hour or 2 over my coffee before I even get to the Laker Stories. Can it get any better? Man is it great to be a Laker Fan. I guess this will work till what we all are waiting for: Lakers vs Celtics!!!!!!

Take care of business tonight and tomorrow so we can smack down the Mavs and Kidd on Sunday on Nat TV..

Go Lakers!!!

BD

Xodus,

Phoenix's "improved" ability in the half court set remains to be seen.

Things tend to "slow" down in playoff time because teams up their defensive presence. Showtime ran like the wind in the playoffs, but they also had Kareem and Worthy to work off of in the half court set.

What will KILL Phoenix isn't so much their offense in the half court set, but their DEFENSE in transition and in the half court set (lack of perimeter defenders)...

I also think their short rotation and grueling schedule the next month will catch up to them. These guys are going to be winded just making into the playoffs...
Then they likely have to face the Mavs in the first round.

Tough stuff for Phoenix. Yeah, they were in a position where maybe they needed to gamble... and I know a lot about gambling, you make a calculated bet where your upside is good and should you "lose" your gamble, it's not that bad... with Phoenix, their upside wasn't that great to begin with and it cost them Marion to take the gamble, and should the dice crap out, they're stuck with a giant cement block around their neck while they try to keep their head above water.

Very bad gamble. Phoenix is like the guy you see in Vegas who went on a big run only to keep playing and he's lost almost all his chips back, and now you're standing there watching him put his last red chip on the felt hoping for a blackjack to start another rally to bring him back from the depths of despair...

I think most of us are smart enough to figure out how that story is going to end.

There is an error on the PE article on Fisher and Farmar. Jordan Farmar went to Taft High School in the valley, not LA Fairfax.. I wonder where that Jim Alexander got his information - or misinformation - from. Interesting.

Phoenix is losing while Shaq's playing, Amare's putting up career numbers while the team suffers...

Check this out:

http://www.lyrics007.com/print.php?id=TWpjMU5UWTU

Amare will go were his big ego (just like his new mentor's) will take him.

I think O'Bryant gets the "malcontent" label because the team never really gave him a chance to play. They drafted him high then Don Nelson came in with the run and fun offense which obviously, was not a good "fit" for O'Bryant. How would you feel if, after college, you were assigned to your first job and then basically told to sit in the corner for 2 years with no shot of ever getting to do anything of value? I know some people would love to do that, others like me would be furious. At least the guy has the fire in the belly to say he wants to play instead of rationalizing it. This would actually be a great situation for him if he really wants to learn how to play and make himself more valuable. With the "Mihm" situation, we will need a guy next year to give us 10-20 minutes/game at C and if he wants to learn from the best, instead of being another Darko Milicic, who obviously hasn't learned anything in the last 3 years, where else could O'Bryant get instruction like he could from Kareem? Seriously. He would be practicing every day against Bynum, who will be a monster next year if he adds some offensive moves, which he plans to do. O'Bryant could put in 2 years here and get a big contract to be a starter for someone else.

Just a thought... maybe O'Bryant's agent reads this board and could relay this to him... LOL! I don't know... it makes sense to me...

Faith,

About Sasha, have you noticed that he wears diffrent hair bands to the games? Maybe he should start his own hair band collection and sell them outside Staples.

10 in a row tonight!

50 BEFORE 20!

T.J. SIMERS? NO! KAREEM? YES!

NO MVP? NO PEACE!

GO LAKERS!

Good morning DrewPauKobe!

Go Lakers!

The thing that makes this team click now is that everyone knows their place and abilities.

No one tries to do anything outside of their wheelhouse, nor do they have to. At least not yet. The thing about good teams is that the role players start to get an inflated sense of their skills after a couple of years, or at least other teams do, and then they sign those role players away for a gazillion dollar, 10 year contract.

DrewPauKobe

Chest pound baby!

Sasha's trying to start a new trend.

Like they have specific shoes for some players, and they wear certain color socks for each game (home or away), the Machine is starting his own soccer-band collection lol.

Elle,

I think he was at the free throw line two games ago, but, you're right. He sure don't get fouled much (or at least they don't get called much).

GO LAKERS!

Eric (Phoenix): Hi Chad! With the Suns getting Atlanta's pick this year, who do you think would best fit the team?

Chad Ford: (1:39 PM ET ) I think $3 million will be what fits in Sarver's plan based on past experience ...

Seriously, the Suns biggest problem, in my opinion, is that they've blown it with the draft the past few years. They've had several opportunities to add talented young players at low salaries (David West, Leandro Barbosa in 2003, Luol Deng, Andre Iguodala in 2004, Nate Robinson, David Lee in 2005, Rajon Rondo and Jordan Farmar in 2006 and they've come up empty. If they had just kept their draft picks or choose the right ones, they'd be the deepest team in the league and had zero need to make a gamble on a guy like Shaq.

I always wake up in a good mood when the Suns lose. I agree with Xodus: Suns could easily lose in the first round. If they have to match up with New Orleans in the first, they can start planning their vacations early. And I would LOVE to see that.

Tim-4-Show,

I agree with you 100%. I don't believe Shaq helps Phoenix that much in the halfcourt either for the reasons you detailed. Teams are living in the paint against the Phoenix Suns right now, because Shaq and Amare don't rotate well and can't defend the pick and roll.

And your statement about the Showtime Lakers is spot on and reflects everything I said. People speak as if once the playoffs come around each team is only allowed a limited amount of fast breaks per contest. No, I see the Hornets, Jazz, Lakers, Nuggets, Warriors and yes, even the Spurs running all over them in the playoffs. I expect it to bring a tear of joy to my eyes. Hopefully it's our Lakers who deal the crushing blows.

Chad Ford must've gotten pricked by a cactus when he was young. He's killing Phoenix in his chat.

Josue(PN): Hey Chad You din't answered who the Suns should draft? Do you think they have to get a backup for Nash? Thanks Mr. Ford

Chad Ford: (1:52 PM ET ) They actually need help everywhere. A center (Shaq isn't going to play forever), a Shawn Marion replacement, a younger two guard and a back-up for Nash. At this point I just think they take the best player available ... they have a lot of needs and keep passing on filling them in the draft.

Faith,

Everytime I see Sasha Vujacic hit the floor, I'm reminded of his face as Epony of Les Miserables, so sweet and innocent pleading for foul. But when he makes those long ton shots in the perimeter, his face turned into Che Guevarra ready to take over. I think we should peddle the face of Sasha on a t-shirt, it will sell and make a little money out of blogging. haha!

The Lakers have a great bench mob especially when Socks and Trevor come back. However, we are still a one player type of team, we can't afford to lose Kobe Bryant and expects to win in the playoffs. He still the straw that stirs this Lakers soup, like Yao Ming provided the Great Wall of China to the Rockets.

Good morning DrewPauKobe!

Jon K,
How would we find out how many times he was at the fT line last year and how many times this year?

Edwin,

I want a yellow T-shirt with the words "We win anybody" in the back and Sasha's face in the front.

Sasha always pleads for a foul, he will argue a call even when it's clear that he did foul someone or that no one fouled him. It's even funnier when the play does not involve him and he still complains, it's a game in my house to keep score of how many times Sasha will argue a call, hey maybe that should be a new drinking game, peeps take a shot every time Sasha either asks for a foul or argues that he did not do it, man people would be drunk for days. l think it was Stu that said Sasha "is the only player in the NBA who never commits a foul"

I predict the Lakers to lose today.

Posted by Never

I don't.

No way.

We're winning this game and anyone who doesn't believe will just have to watch the TV tonight a 7 PM.

We're gonna win.

Too many quality players with something to prove.

Remember, the last game was our "could have lost" game, and our bench and Kobe pulled us through.

We win tonight.

We have to. One loss ties us in the Western Conference standings. We can't afford to loose, and we've done satisfied that itch (the loosing itch) plenty over the last 3 years.

We win.

No other way to look at it. When you can’t find the answer to the question you got to reevaluate the question. And this question says we're gonna win.

That's it. Enough said.

We win.

Sheeeeet. You may loose but the Lakers will win.

Wes


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