Kinda makes me want to ride Space Mountain
There were no long lines or height restrictions, but there could have been a few crying children and lost lunches as the Lakers rode the roller coaster Sunday night against the Pacers before finally bringing the cars to a stop with a 112-96 win. They say in the NBA that everyone makes a run, but tonight's game took that to the extreme. Indiana gets out to a 9-0 lead, LA rips off a 33-14 run to cap the quarter. Lakers get wonky in Q2, and Pacers make an 11 point lead disappear with a 23-10 run of their own. In the third, perhaps under threat of losing postgame orange wedge privileges, the Lakers threatened to run the blue and gold out of the building with a 35-19 effort, but the Pacers came back in the fourth against L.A.'s second unit with a 13-2 run to close the gap to seven. Fortunately, the starters regained control and the Lakers stretched the lead back out to a more comfortable margin.
Up, down, up, down, up, down... but ultimately up, which, in the end is all that matters. It wasn't quite as easy as the final score would indicate, but the Lakers did what needed to be done before heading out on the road this week. Click below for the breakdown:
The Good:
- Whatever Phil Jackson Said at Halftime: He chalked it up simply getting back to the fundamentals of the offense, but maybe he threw in a Gipper speech or offered everyone a free Wii, because the Lakers rebounded from a terrible second quarter (see below) and laid the wood to Indy in the third. The aforementioned 35-19 score was highlighted by everything the Lakers didn't do in the previous 12. They moved the ball. They cut. They found the open man. They made the extra pass. The quarter got off to a strong start, with two easy L.O. lay ups, then got better as D-Fish nailed a 17 footer. Kobe got hot, Walton made some great passes, and LO stayed active. Overall, the Lakers shot 65% for the quarter, had nine dimes on 13 buckets, and took good care of the ball (two TOs). On the other end, they kept the Pacers in half court sets, and hassled them into a 32% mark from the floor. Sure, Indy missed some easy looks, but overall, the Lakers cranked up the defensive intensity. It helps when you put the ball in the bucket, for sure.
- Andrew Bynum: Very active early, Bynum had 12 points at the end of the first, and 21 at the half. He finished with 23, on 8-11 from the floor, with 13 boards, and four blocks. 7-9 from the stripe, to boot. There were some hiccups, but overall his impact on the game was very strong. With that sort of line and a robust +30 for the night (yes, +/- doesn't exist in a vacuum, but +30 is snazzy no matter how you slice it), it was another very good effort from Drew. He made some nice plays on Jermaine O'Neal, who presents a unique challenge for Drew because he spends so much time facing up. JO made some nice plays early, but Bynum adjusted well as the game went on.
- Derek Fisher, Kobe Bryant, Especially in the Second Half: Kobe struggled early, finishing 2-11 from the floor in the first half, and D-Fish wasn't much better (1-5). But both made some massive plays for the Lakers in the second half. Kobe came out of the half on a tear, drilling two threes, hitting a couple more shots from the floor, and scoring 12 points overall. In the fourth, 24 went back to distributing, notching three of his six total dimes. Fish hit three monster shots from downtown over a two+ minute stretch in the fourth, which helped the Lakers quash Indiana's dream of a miracle comeback before it could gain too much traction. Overall, it was a nice game for Kobe, who didn't dominate the scoring column but still made his mark in critical situations in the second half, both shooting and distributing.
- Lamar Odom, Luke Walton: Neither one was a star, but both quietly had a positive effect on the game. Odom powered the team early in their third quarter reawakening, and finished with 13/13/3, while Luke overcame a very shaky start to finish with ten points, four boards, and a very nifty seven assists.
- Trevor Ariza: Only 17:42 of run, but still, he pitched in with six points, five boards, and two dimes. It's becoming clear that at least a couple times a game, Ariza does something that sticks out. Tonight, it was a sequence with about 30 ticks left in the third, when Ariza made a nice, quick, crisp entry pass to Drew, who dunked on O'Neal for the and-one. Then, when Bynum missed the FT, Ariza out-jumped at least two Pacers to tip the ball out and give the Lakers possession. Those add up over the course of a game.
- "Coby Karl replacing Kobe Bryant": In general, when these words are heard, as they were tonight, it's a good sign. (Or, I suppose, a really bad one, but let's stay optimistic.)
The Bad:
- The Second Unit: They were on the floor twice, and didn't do much either time. In the second quarter (an admittedly miserable one for the Lakers) the reserves allowed a ten point lead to shrink to six before they were yanked halfway through, mostly because they couldn't put the biscuit in the basket, if I might borrow a hockey cliche. But their really ugly stretch came to kick off the fourth. Starting the frame with an 18 point lead and staring at a busy week, PJ hoped to keep the starters on the bench, and ride the seconds through to the end. No such luck. The Pacers opened the quarter with a 13-2 run, fueled by six TO's, forcing Phil to call timeout and bring the starters back in at the 6:16 mark. Two points and six giveaways in under six minutes. And it wasn't just bad luck keeping the ball out of the hoop. The group struggled to get a clean look. Yeah, two main cogs of the unit were out (Vlad, Sasha), but still, not a good effort.
- Jordan Farmar: 1-8 from the floor, he struggled to run the offense with the reserves. Granted, with Sasha and Vlad out, the Lakers did run a more points-challenged unit, but overall it wasn't his best effort. A little too much dribble. Three steals, though, which is always good to see.
- The Second Quarter: The offense checked into the Hotel Stagnant, as player and ball stopped moving. The result? Four TOs, a 35% mark from the floor, and a ton of easy run outs for the Pacers. The indifferent work on that end spread to the defensive side, too, as it often does. The Lakers, who turned a terrible first three minutes of the first into a 10 point lead by the time it was over, allowed Indiana to get back to within two heading into the break. Indiana wasn't necessarily outplaying them, the Lakers just stopped doing what gave them the lead in the first place.
- Javaris Crittenton: Three turnovers in ten minutes, most prompted by The Critter simply trying to force the issue more than he needed to. The road to consistency is a long one. On a positive note, I'm getting better at spelling his name correctly.
The Out of Left Field:
- Kwame Brown: He was a bit a mixed bag tonight, with a few mental lapses and four PFs in only 13:28 of run. But I've never seen Kwame play as aggressive offensively as he did tonight. Time and time again, Kwame faced up to the hoop, made a dribble move, and worked towards the hoop. The results weren't always pretty on an aesthetic level, but in spots they were effective, as 54 managed to get to the line a few times and forced Indiana to pay attention to him. On the other hand, his eight points came with four turnovers, not exactly a great ratio. But overall, it was nice to see Kwame try to create his shots, especially facing up. He'll never be a particularly smooth player offensively, but down the road an increased willingness to be part of the offense will force other teams to man up on him, which helps create space on the floor for everyone else. A face up game could also (dare to dream) make it easier for Brown to play a little four, which would be a major boon to rotation flexibility.
AUDIO: Phil obviously wasn't thrilled with how the seconds performed, plus plenty of good stuff about the upcoming roadie. Fish and Walton had some good words about what went wrong in the second and early in the fourth. Incidentally, I also learned that Walton, who grew up in San Diego, never experienced postgame orange wedges as a young athlete. Is this just a Midwest thing? Where once the game is over, the team mom brings over something to drink (juice was always popular, particularly Hi-C and Capri Sun) and some orange wedges? C'mon, people! Help me out.
- Phil Jackson: Download phil_jackson_1.5 postIND.mp3
- Andrew Bynum: Download andrew_bynum_1.5 postIND.mp3
- Luke Walton: Download luke_walton_1.5 postIND.mp3
- Derek Fisher: Download derek_fisher_1.5 postIND.mp3
BK
Some copy from Kobe Bryant, Lamar Odom and Pacers Coach Jim O'Brien, who threw some serious props in the direction of Andrew Bynum and Mitch Kupchak. Kobe also had some praise for the third year center. I asked him if Bynum has gotten to the point where, as the cliche goes, he "demands the ball." As it turns out, not so much, but The Mamba digs the brains on display from the youngster. Odom also had an interesting thought about the advantages coming from the core players having been together a while. Sort of shows why patience, while often exasperating, can be necessary when it comes to building an effective team.
KOBE BRYANT
On Bynum keeping the team in it during the first half while his fellow starters were mostly cold.
"He's doing a great job. He's staying consistent and coming out, playing hard and giving us maximum effort. That's what we need."
On the importance of the back to back shots he hit immediately after being reinserted into the game, bumping a dwindling 7-point lead back to 1.
"It's more for us to understand that we took a blow from them, but I'm gonna go out there and throw an uppercut and let them know that this is our game."
On displaying more of a killer instinct against weaker teams than last season.
"We're playing for something much more important and special. We're keeping our eyes on the prize. it doesn't matter if we're playing a sub .500 team."
On what "10 games over .500" (the Lakers' current status) would have sounded like to Kobe coming into the seasons.
"It sounds like nothing to me. Our goal is win a championship. It's not to be ten games over .500, so it's important for us to continue to move forward. The guys here understand that. We're not playing for five seeds or four seeds. We're trying to get to that top level. That's what our focus is."
On this stretch of wins being a nice step, but nothing too big
"You gotta take little steps, but you can't be all proud and puff your chest about it. It's a nice accomplishment. It's a step in the right direction. But it's not what we want."
On whether Bynum has reached the point where he's demanding the ball yet
"I don't think he's at that position yet. Like I said, the buckets that he gets come off lobs and him being able to read the defense, which a lot of young centers don't know how to do. A lot of them stand there and clog up the lane, but he understands how to space himself out and allow the defense to develop and then get easy opportunities.
On that being as impressive in some ways as setting up his own shot beginning with the ball
"It shows I.Q. A lot of players wanna catch it and pound it. He understands how to space out and let the play develop and then get the easy one."
LAMAR ODOM
On Kobe and Derek Fisher being cold in the first half, but finding a way to take the game
"Whether we're hitting shots or not, we gotta find a way to win. Andrew's playing great. He's dominating the inside and moving the ball and everybody's getting involved the ball. It's fun to play like that."
On whether this team is playing its best ball over the last few years
"We're ten games over .500, so maybe. But two years, we had (Phoenix), one of best teams in the NBA down 3-1 (in the playoffs), so we still have some improvement to make. Hopefully, we can focus throughout the long season and advance into the playoffs."
On whether the team has a different focus this season against sub .500 teams
"When we're older and I don't mean the age of the players, I mean as a team, we have time together. Putting in years together. That helps your focus. We know what to expect from each other."
PACERS COACH JIM O'BRIEN
On what makes the Lakers starting lineup tough to defend
"I think Fisher, Kobe, Bynum and Lamar is what makes their starting lineup very difficult for us to handle."
On Andrew Bynum's marked progress this season
"My hat is off to Mitch Kupchak for not making a move. He saw what he had. He is just a terrific talent and a huge presence inside. You can't guard Kobe one on one and when you hold someone or bring someone over to help, they just drive to the front of the rim. He seemed like he was eight feet tall to me tonight. His development is a credit to him, their staff and the whole organization.
-AK



BYNUM FAN,
I agree...Although Brown doesn't play power forward because he can't shoot. In needs to be able to hit the 12-15 footer.
Posted by: zen | January 07, 2008 at 09:55 AM
Amare knows that teams have caught up with the freewheeling Suns. As someone mentioned earlier, defensive teams slow them down in the playoffs and nothing comes easy. I don't think Amare will be a Sun beyond this season, just my opinion.
Posted by: Nemaia Faletogo | January 07, 2008 at 09:57 AM
TaosHum,
Mike T is only saying this to cover himself when he said "The Lakers cannot win unless Kwame Brown is the starting center"
Now that Bynum is playing well, it's "The Lakers cannot win unless Kwame Brown is the starting power forward."
It never ends...He just wants to be right.
Posted by: zen | January 07, 2008 at 09:59 AM
Dion,
>>>what's the sense of starting luke, when its obvious he's a weaknes offensively
>>>and defensively..
I'd hardly call 10 points and 7 assists offensive weakness. And his defense isn't
as bad as some people like to think. During the game, people were posting that
Granger was going to go off because Luke was guarding him. One specific quote
was Faith, who said "Who does Luke have. Mark that dude for a career high."
Yet Granger scored 17, which is right about his average for the season.
Honestly I don't care whether they start Luke or not. I think if they start Ariza, then
the starting 5 are a little better defensively, and not as good offensively. Luke's
offense is about as good as Ariza's defense and Ariza's offense is about as good
as Luke's defense.
Posted by: | January 07, 2008 at 10:00 AM
one thing on Kwame at PF. I don't think he practices AT ALL for the position including shooting jumpers during practice or before games so why would we expect him to show any "game" there unless he practiced it? His body says "PF" his mind says... I don't know what it says... it says, "play Center so you don't have to know the offense as well???" or I don't know what goes on in his mind but if he practices ONLY at Center then how could he ever even consider moving to PF unless he puts the effort into it?
Hey... at least we have a functioning backup Center right now in Kwame... poor Turiaf gives up a lot in weight disadvantage going down in there...
Posted by: TaosHum | January 07, 2008 at 10:03 AM
Nemaia and Vman,
Thanks. In the past the Lakers have seemed to ignore Bynum for extended stretches; it sounds like they are getting better at that.
Posted by: exhelodrvr | January 07, 2008 at 10:07 AM
TaosHum,
Im telling you this team BELIEVES. Now that we have a #2 guy who is a big, it takes the pressure off L.O. Until the other teams figure out Bynum, he will be the starting center.
The problem with Kwame is that he's like Shaq but dumber, with short arms and no hands at all. This causes a problem with anything he wants to do inside.
This means, he should work on his 12-15 footer and be a power forward.
Posted by: zen | January 07, 2008 at 10:08 AM
Question for AK/BK.
A few years ago, a GM said that the Lakers "made a steal" in the draft with Bynum and Turiaf. Do you remember which GM said that?
Posted by: zen | January 07, 2008 at 10:10 AM
No question that it was not Jordan's best effort. But if you look at the tape of the game when the Bench was on the floor, no one knew where they were supposed to be or what they were supposed to do. Kwame positioned himself more as a PF than a C, and J-Crit seemed really lost. Farmar often dribbled too much because he couldn't find anybody to get the ball to. Some credit must go to the Pacers' defense. The Bench Mob always played its best when there was consistency in the rotation.
Posted by: Rick Friedman | January 07, 2008 at 10:11 AM
I think we should give Kwame another shot to play some 4. I think it didn't work out before because he was still new in the system(triangle)and wasn't comfortable playing alongside Mihm. I do think that both Andrew and Kwame would benefit from playing together and along with LO at SF would be a formidable frontline. Seriously, people would have a difficult time penetrating the lane and having three big bodies with length would be punishing.
The big difference between Andrew and Mihm is that Mihm didn't draw people his man away from the paint whereas Drew does and it would give Kwame some room to operate against his man down low. Kwame does have a quick first step and if he can improve on his short game it would be killer. Andrew and LO would have his back on the offensive glass and vice versa. They could also cover each other on weakside help(Turiaf does well here too). I would love to see PJ experiment with this in a game to see how it works. With Mihm out, I think PJ is hesitant to do it because Kwame is the only backup 5 at this time and he doesn't want to use Turiaf at the 5 if he doesn't have to.
I had a real crazy thought the other day for a really big lineup. You know how many of these teams today like to play small ball, so I thought why not play tall ball? I would start Andrew at the 5, Kwame at 4, Ariza at 3, Kobe at 2 and LO at the point(like Magic?). Hear me out, LO could play the point because he can handle the ball, is a good passer and would have a decisive height advantage. PJ allowed LO to run the offense from time to time almost like a Point Forward. Imagine the matchup problems that would present to opposing teams. Crazy I know, but it was just a thought. Go Lakers!!!
Posted by: Nemaia Faletogo | January 07, 2008 at 10:16 AM
k 2 da x,
>>>If he can ever learn to be a set shooter like rick fox was i think he can be one
>>>of the pieces that can put us over the top in the west.
I agree with this, and I must say that I was very encouraged by Ariza's 2 three
pointers last night. If he could do that consistently, he could give the Lakers
exACTly what Rick Fox used to give them.
Posted by: | January 07, 2008 at 10:22 AM
|,
The main reason your browser truncates the text with long URLS is because it's a bug with the website and integration with firefox..
If you use Internet Explorer, you wont have that problem.
Posted by: zen | January 07, 2008 at 10:25 AM
Tim-4-Show-
Yeah, no doubt Kwame looked awkward last night with his offensive efforts. The TOs were certainly an indication that what he was doing was far from natural. What I was getting at was that if he can play facing the basket, even a little, it could open up some combinations for the Lakers that could work. Part of the reason they can't play Kwame at the four right now is because with Drew in the low post, if Kwame can't step out there isn't much space down there. As it is, he won't draw much attention as he steps away from the hoop. If he's going to play there he has to be able to force the opposition to guard him, at least a little.
It's a long way from happening, I would think. But it's fun to kick it around, and lord knows we (and the Lakers) have hoped they could put 54 back at the four for a while now. For now, they'll stick with the Drew/Kwame combo going forward (which isn't a bad thing). But it would be nice, especially against certain teams, to be able to get the two of them out on the floor at the same time.
BK
Posted by: Brian Kamenetzky | January 07, 2008 at 10:31 AM
Zen, oh yes... what they were saying after the draft... we could have had Sean May!!! Oh! How could we have NOT picked Sean May??? LOL!
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http://tinyurl.com/39lnvc
July 1, 2005
I met and talked briefly with Bynum the morning after the draft. At a glance, I wonder how competitive he'll be. I wonder if he talks tougher than he plays. I wonder if he has any idea what a beating he'll take under the NBA boards, and if the sensitive kid inside that big body can take the rookie and sophomore humiliation.
For what it's worth, Bynum's hands are small for his size. Shaq's are huge.
Yet this kid is already inviting comparisons with two of the most dominant centers in NBA history.
God bless him.
"Anything Kareem can do, I can do better."
On draft night, he told the L.A. media: "I want to bring back the skyhook that Kareem left behind there. Nobody uses that shot and it happens to be one of my favorite shots."
And: "I'm compared to Shaq now just because of my body type, but I can hit my free throws."
The L.A. media's appreciative laughter echoed all the way to Miami, where Shaq will surely use that quote for motivation during every torturous offseason workout.
Lakers fans will be distracted for a while by second-round steal Ronny Turiaf, whose relentless energy will help immediately. But if Prince Andrew seems overwhelmed and overmatched, Laker fans eventually will remember they could have had Sean May or Danny Granger or even Gerald Green, who will turn out to be the biggest star of the last class to go straight into the NBA from high school.
I'm betting that in this movie's closing scene, the $10-million-a-year coach will smile and shrug as if to say, "I told them so."
Skip Bayless can be seen Monday through Friday on "Cold Pizza," ESPN2's morning show, and at 4 p.m. ET on ESPN's "1st & 10." His column appears twice weekly on Page 2. You can e-mail Skip here.
Posted by: TaosHum | January 07, 2008 at 10:31 AM
zen,
>>>The main reason your browser truncates the text with long URLS is
>>>because it's a bug with the website and integration with firefox..
>>>If you use Internet Explorer, you wont have that problem.
Actually, it's not a bug in the integration with firefox. It's a deliberate act of
Microsoft to try to take over the web.
MS deliberately creates non-standard web code in their internet products (Front
Page, etc) that allow certain things to only be viewed in their browser. The intention
is obvious, they are trying to get more people to use their browsers.
Forget that. The web protocols are standards that are published specifically to
make it so all browsers can access all documents. This attempted takeover of the
web by Microsoft sucks serious a$$. They should either conform to the existing
standards of the web, or they should propose extensions to those standards and
get them incorporated into the new standards. The web shouldn't be "owned"
by one company.
They tried to do the same thing with the Java programming language - Sun
created it, and Microsoft created a Java compiler where they altered a lot of the
format of the language with the intention of taking it over. Sun successfully
sued on that one.
I refuse to use Internet Excreter. If a web site can't be viewed by Firefox or
Mozilla, then it's not worth viewing.
It's cool. I would like to read everybody's posts, as I am interested in differing
views on the team and how it's doing. But if it's too much trouble for people to
make links shorter, then I can just skip reading posts by people who don't
insert carriage returns.
Posted by: Long Time Laker Fan | January 07, 2008 at 10:55 AM
BK- add Kobes gambling defense to the "bad" its an ongoing trend thats going to hurt the lakers against good teams- like we saw against the celtics.
Sure sometimes Kobe gets steals but much more often is creates open shots for the other team or creates fouls on his teammates who have to cover for his over-playing.
Faith- do you agree?
Posted by: Laker Lover | January 07, 2008 at 10:56 AM
I think Kwame should be starting over Drew and take significant minutes from him. I believe that I am somehow linked to his mind and spirit (we are soul mates). I believe that this link allows me to imagine him being a dominating center or Power Forward (take your pick) and thus his greatness will occur if significant minutes are given to him just enough to allow for my synchronization pattern to be in tune. So please somebody tell Phil to put Kwame in for more minutes as I will reward him by wishing for his greatness. I've been sick these past few games that Kwame has played in but now that I'm healthy Kwame will rock the NBA on its head guaranteed. Please tell Phil.
Posted by: johnny | January 07, 2008 at 10:59 AM
johnny,
>>>I think Kwame should be starting over Drew and take significant minutes from him.
No. Now be a good boy and go eat your orange slices.
Posted by: Long Time Laker Fan | January 07, 2008 at 11:03 AM
Ex,
I think the game plan in the first half was to get the ball into Bynum's hands on every possible occasion barring a clean look on a fast break (which would explain Fish's first brick the first time he dribbled into shooting range and launched without waiting for the offense to set up). When players are concentrating on a strategy that seeks to punish the opponent with a single weapon it can actually throw off th shooting rhythm of the usual scorers. Kobe and Fish both suffered from that and as usual Lamar only sought to shoot when he saw clear weaknesses in the defense.
In the second half Phil must have loosened the plan and encouraged the other three (Kobe, Lamar and Fish) to get into a rhythm putting up points rather than systematically look for Andrew. It worked, so Andrew wasn't needed as much after strking mortal fear into the Pacers on the basis of his first half performance, which of course made things looser for Kobe and Fish.
Posted by: Tsphere | January 07, 2008 at 11:03 AM
If Kwame could learn to move around the floor constantly and shoot a little jumper this team would be so much more dominating of offense and defense with Kwame at the 4. If only Kwame could learn to shoot and constantly space the floor. That would be a better team than the Celtics. This team is good but that would make the Lakers elite instantly. Kwame has a mental block that's all. Maybe with practice like some have suggested this can still occur. I said it last year that on defense this team would probably eventually hold opponents under 35% nightly. Just based on players abilities and the leagues abilities. But the question mark is offense. Would it flow smoothly. I think its a good possibility it wouldn't but who knows for sure.
Neimaia it would definately seem like a fortified wall for sure. This team could play more 1 on 1 and cover the 3 point lane as well just like the Celtics maybe better.
However at this point in the season I wouldn't mess with the chemistry of this team.
Posted by: johnny | January 07, 2008 at 11:20 AM
If Kwame could learn to move around the floor constantly and shoot a little jumper this team would be so much more dominating of offense and defense with Kwame at the 4. If only Kwame could learn to shoot and constantly space the floor. That would be a better team than the Celtics. This team is good but that would make the Lakers elite instantly. Kwame has a mental block that's all. Maybe with practice like some have suggested this can still occur. I said it last year that on defense this team would probably eventually hold opponents under 35% nightly. Just based on players abilities and the leagues abilities. But the question mark is offense. Would it flow smoothly. I think its a good possibility it wouldn't but who knows for sure.
Neimaia it would definately seem like a fortified wall for sure. This team could play more 1 on 1 and cover the 3 point lane as well just like the Celtics maybe better.
However at this point in the season I wouldn't mess with the chemistry of this team.
Posted by: johnny | January 07, 2008 at 11:20 AM
I see some posts about trading for JO. The only scenario I like is Kwame, Vlad Rad, and Mihm for JO and some cash. It works economically, and the Pacer get another shooter to fit in Jim O'Brien's system, meanwhile clearing 14 million in cap space. Though he would be expensive, who would be opposed to a possible line-up fo Bynum, JO, LO, Fish and Kobe? Who could stop us in the post? Who could get a rebound over them? Seems nice to me....
Posted by: wondahbap | January 07, 2008 at 12:06 PM
I totaly disagree.........Lukes offense makes no real impact on the game, Ariza will give you just as much and more offensively than luke, and defensively it's an insult to compare luke to anyone.....let alone Ariza.
I don't see luke starting on any other team except a Phil coached team......sorry but i call it as i see it.
Posted by: Dion | January 07, 2008 at 01:06 PM
TaosHum.....
Thanks for the link to that article by Skip Bayless. Just goes to show you how wrong a man can be. Just about everything that he predicts has not happened since Bynum was drafted: Phil has extended his contract, Kobe and Phil are getting along just fine, thank you, Bynum is blossoming and the Lakers are on the upswing. Skip sure ain't no Nostradamus! HaHa!
Posted by: bronxlakerfan | January 07, 2008 at 01:20 PM
Long Time Laker Fan,
It's still a bug with the website..It's up to the developer to not use the "non-standard" stuff. A developer can make a website work in both browsers..So however you slice it, it's still the developer's fault..
Also about the special code used by Explorer: I am a developer and Im glad they do it sometimes. Do you know why? Because if I sat around waiting for the browser standards all the time I will be old and gray before I make any money.
Microsoft gives the developer what they want NOW, but they don't have to use them. A developer can still stick with the standards if they wanted to, but they give the developer a choice and give them extra power NOW instead of waiting 10 years for a browser to implement more standards.
If a developer chooses to use the Microsoft specific stuff, they need to detect the browser and adjust to Firefox users. Microsoft's main goal, is to make the developer happy and give them more power faster than ever before. They give us stuff before the standards are written to get ahead of the competition.
If a developer chooses to use them, then he/she must plan for Firefox users as well.
Blame the developer, not Internet Explorer. I don't know about you, but I kind of like getting advanced features before the competition does. Especially from a big company like Microsoft because I know they will be there tomorrow.
Posted by: zen | January 07, 2008 at 01:38 PM
Johnny,
>>>If Kwame could learn to move around the floor constantly and shoot a little
>>>jumper this team would be so much more dominating of offense and defense
>>>with Kwame at the 4.
And if my aunt had balls, she'd be my uncle.
Posted by: Long Time Laker Fan | January 07, 2008 at 01:57 PM
Actually the second unit didn't look so much lost to me. Most of them looked like they had an intense need to showcase tehir individual skills. All of a sudden Kwame looked like he was trying to become an offensive force. Crittenton wanted to show how he could dribble through 3 or four opposing players, Farmar wanted to prove he chould also dribble through a bunch of people and then hit the openman under the hoop with a miracle pass. Ariza and Turiaf seemed to keep their heads, but the others played like they were engaged in try-outs and had to shine at all costs....
Posted by: guity | January 07, 2008 at 02:12 PM
LTLF,
No disrespect, but if your aunt had balls, your uncle would be gay. Sorry couldn't resist :)
Posted by: hariyahu | January 07, 2008 at 03:28 PM
hariyahu,
"No disrespect, but if your aunt had balls, your uncle would be gay."
Not necessarily. You are assuming that the aunt is married to his uncle. She could be an unmarried sister of his father or mother, in which case there is not enough information provided.
Posted by: exhelodrvr | January 07, 2008 at 04:29 PM
Ex,
You are right. So, how about:
"If your aunt had balls, Rudy Gay may be your uncle"
Sorry, had to get Beavis flushed out of my system before Memphis tomorrow.
Posted by: hariyahu | January 07, 2008 at 07:10 PM
I lived at Hickam Air Force Base in Hawaii and we would eat all those Hawaiian treats. They opened up an L&L Hawaiian food here in Colorado Springs, yum!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Back to basketball, Colorado loves the Lakers!
Posted by: Hugo Boss | January 07, 2008 at 07:48 PM
heh heh heh heh
You said balls
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Posted by: exhelodrvr | January 07, 2008 at 08:08 PM
What will the Grizzlies announcers say when their PG makes a highlight reel play?
ConHolyO
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Posted by: hariyahu | January 08, 2008 at 04:33 AM
What will the Grizzlies announcers say once their PG gets better?
ConHolyO!!
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Posted by: hariyahu | January 08, 2008 at 07:01 AM