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Early word: Eight weeks

January 14, 2008 |  1:16 pm

ESPN.com is reporting that Andrew Bynum won't need surgery, but will miss eight weeks or so with a subluxation of the left kneecap.  In layman's terms, that's a dislocated kneecap.  (For more about subluxation, consult this link, or visit your local library.) I'm sure more info will filter in, and we'll have our reaction to the news ASAP, but it's fair to say that while the news could have been better... it could have been an awful lot worse, too.

BK

Update (1:27 pm):  The Lakers have released their official word on the MRI results.  Not much different than what was in the initial report from ESPN, except that they mention that Bynum also suffered a bruise of the left knee, and they added the words "minimum of" in front of "eight weeks" in describing the time frame.  The team did cap the very brief report with the chipper news that Bynum is "expected to make a full recovery."

Obviously, he might come back a little earlier, he might come back a little later.  But nobody should count on the former.  At quick check, though, it does appear that on an eight week timetable, Bynum has enough time to come back and get into a groove before the playoffs.  So that's good. 
 


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J Walter-

Dude, amoung all the tragedy, that crack about Lamar wanting to play center made me laugh.

I HOPE THE LAKERS DON'T RUSH THIS KID BACK TO TRY TO MAKE A STRONG PLAYOFF RUN. Bynum is the most important player for the Lakers future and if we bring him back early the weakness in his knee can cuz him to overcompensate and have problems with the other knee. I would not rush him back. Bynum is too important to try to let him come back before he is 100 percent. Remember he has alot of years in front of him.

ODOM=SCHLEPROCK

TRADE HIM ALREADY

Not to dog-pile on Kwame, but, to explain his ineptitude on the court all anyone has to do is look at how he practices. He is exactly the way PJ describes him - the kid who sits in the back of the class, doesn't pay attention and causes trouble.

I'll be staying aboard this sinking ship.

If it makes anyone feel better..The following is posted from NBA.com

Hero Team of the Week: L.A. Lakers (4-0)
Zero Team of the Week: Miami (0-3)

Adir,

Talk about a bit of an exaggeration, "Better losing Kobe than Bynum". That has to be the peak of Drew's hype. I agree with the basic message of your argument, that this injury does not mean that Kobe should start firing at will, I think it is easy to forget how all the attention Kobe receives from opposing defense opens up things for everyone else. Losing Kobe would be devastaing over a long period of time.

I really don't think this injury is going to greatly affect the Lakers on the offensive end, other than possibly offensive rebounding. But it will hurt them on the defensive end, Bynum protects the rim better than Kwame and his rebounding is really going to be missed. That has been the strength of the Lakers, rebounding. Kwame can replace his presence in the starting line up, but the second unit is going to be severely weakened in that area.

LTLF,

I like your suggestion about Jelani McCoy. The roster spot is open and we absolutely need another big guy who can come off the bench until Andrew returns. Neither Kwame nor Ronny are conditioned enough to combine for 48 minutes by themselves. Even when Mihm returns, he won't have the athleticism to be of any value.

Bynum being injured is like a Belmont Stakes winner not being available to go for the triple crown. The Lakers will struggle to play .500 ball without him.

Meanwhile, like everyone else, my best wishes to AB for a full and speedy recovery. My expectations for Kwame are very low, so if he contributes at any level at all, I will be very pleased. The injury gods have drawn more blood from the Lakers in recent years than could possibly be justified. Now, if they will just leave us alone and not take down anyone else on the roster, we still have a shot at the WC championship.

Go Lakers!

P.S. Welcome home, Mamba24. You were missed.

Marc Gasol and Elton Brown.

BK

thanks for sharing your thoughts. I agree with you any dreams of being a top seed are virtually gone now.

lakers_sth,
"all anyone has to do is look at how he practices..."

Coming from you, this is telling me a lot (the truth) and I don't like what you're saying.

This is what I meant by not quite sure what to make of management. We MUST get rid of players who refuse to put their heart into the team. That includes those who have perpetually taken their summers off.

Mike T are you listening to booster boy

"Coach Phil Jackson had said before the game of Bynum: "He's just too productive not to have him on the floor." And Jackson spoke of dropping Brown from his backup center spot in favor of Ronny Turiaf if Brown didn't soon show an ability to produce off the bench.


and to think the Lakers are now counting on the cake thrower- thats just sad.

"Just when I think I'm out, they pull me back in!" ......

WTF !!! What worries me is that the Lakers' injuries always seem to last longer than expected. I really hope that isn't the case this time around. I expect the offensive efficiency to drop somewhat and rebounding. Bynum's length just can't be replaced. This is THE time for Kobe to earn his MVP.

GREAT NEWS THAT BYNUM IS ONLY OUT FOR EIGHT WEEKS. I HOPE WE ARE HEARING THE FULL STORY. HOWEVER I HAD A INCLINATION THAT THE DISLOCATED KNEE CAP WAS A POSIBILITY SO I WILL BELIEVE THE REPORT.
ANYWAYS PEOPLE ASUMEING THAT BIG BYNUM CAN GET HEALTHY ENOUGH TO PLAY FOR ABOUT A MONTH BEFORE PLAYOFF TIME I THINK WE STILL OF A LEGIT CHANCE AT BECOMING CHAMPIONS. LOOK THE LAKERS SCEDULE IS NOT THAT TOUGHT FOR THE NEXT COUPLE MONTHS. MOSTLY A BUNCH OF POOR EASTERN CONFERENCE TEAMS ON THE ROAD WHIC THE LAKERS SHOULD BE ABLE TO HANDLE. LOOK KWAME IS NOT GOING TO TURN INTO AN ALL START BUT THE GUY IS PLAYING FOR HIS CONTRACT SO HE WILL PUT UP SOME RESPECTABLE NUMBERS FOR US. I THINK THAT WE SHOULD END UP GOING ABOUT 21-9 DURING BIG BYNUMS ABSENCE. WHEN HE GETS BACK NO ONE WILL WANT TO PLAY US.

Never

Thanks for the quick shot of Schadenfreude. We could have been stuck with a bloated, unmotivated yet still swaggering Shaq. The reminder of his fall from grace is not a healthy Bynum, but it's still pretty choice.

Also, to whoever been using the "Bynumite" tag: nice.

My Kwame watch is officially starting tonight. Now it's time to put up or shut up. I wish him and our Lakers the best, go Lakers!!!

It's imperative we support all Lakers...everyone (yes even Luke Walton lol)...because we're gonna need all of them.

We went to an impressive stretch in early 06 with Kwame-Ronny combo...seeing as Drew didn't get a lot of time...we can again.

But I think getting help becomes the foremost need...like it hasn't been (sarcasm alert). This is why I thought we needed more...we need a legit PF. You have to have a plan for when things are tough...this is it. What's Mitch's plan?

"I really don't think this injury is going to greatly affect the Lakers on the offensive end, other than possibly offensive rebounding. "

Bynum's presence has made a huge difference offensively. He provides a significant threat on the interior. It forces perimeter defenders to play off their man, because if they drive in Bynum is a great target for them to give a quick pass to. That means that they get better looks on their outside shot. It also means that the interior defenders have to hesitate before moving in on a penetration; that results in more free throws and/or more uncontested interior shots by the perimeter players. And now there is much less of a cost to pay for teams that double on Kobe.

Voice of Reason....

I agree with your math and thinking. A 50 victory season is still within reach, especially if the rest of the walking wounded (Vlad, Mihm and Sasha) can get back on the court and in the flow.

Drew's great play brought a sense of hope and anticipation to this Laker season. It replaced the feelings of angst and frustration that most fans felt with Kwame starting. Kwame is like a box of chocolates...you never know what you are going to get. Here's hoping that Drew makes a full and complete recovery and continues building a stellar career.

Durability and longevity are talents within themselves. That's one reason why I've always felt that comparisons to Kobe with Lebron and DWade are a bit premature. They simply haven't accumulated the body of work that #24 has nor have they done it for as long a period of time. NBA history is littered with great players whose star was diminished by injuries causing an untimely end of their careers. Andrew Toney and Otis Birdsong come to mind immediately. Bill Walton is another example.

I'll mainly miss Baby for his high skill level. It made each game fun to watch. Come back soon, Drew. Come back healthy.

How can I prevent a subluxing kneecap?
A subluxing kneecap is best prevented by keeping your thigh muscles strong, especially the group of muscles on the inner side of the thigh.

Get to work, DREW!!! We need you!

defensive player of the year is going to belong to garnett who has made a horrible defensive team into the best defensive team in the league. Kobe still has a chance to win MVP though his numbers are not that great , especially his assist to turnover ratio and shooting percentage.

This team doesn't need a backup center - it needs a faith healer. I can't recall a similar run of devastating injuries for any franchise; this stuff goes back to the Malone injury during the 'Dream Team' season. I firmly believe we would have won the NBA Championship that year if Malone had stayed health. Then, during PS1 (post-Shaq), Kobe and Lamar suffered serious enough injuries to ensure our trip to the lottery; at least the silver lining was Socks. I don't think I need to remind anyone about last year. I thanked God on Friday night when Andrew went down and bounced right back up, but His wrath was only withheld for a couple of days.

I shouldn't be this depressed about a basketball team, and maybe I need to get a life, but this injury is really hard to take this time. I was convinced my Laker-hater friends who haven't jumped back on the bandwagon would finally get their just desserts this year, and it's going to be a lot harder to take another spring of futility. I'm going to try to remain optimistic, but I'm searching the internet for a support group that doesn't involve drowning my sorrows in a mixture of grain alcohol and fruit punch. Any ideas?

Lamar has got to be the biggest bonehead the Lakers have ever had, and I've been watching the team for a long, long time. For God's sake, when you see the 7 foot Bynum right in front of you trying to get the rebound, then give him just a little space instead of crowding him from the back. LO's complete lack of smarts is dangerous for his own team.

Never

Thanks for the quick shot of Schadenfreude. We could have been stuck with a bloated, unmotivated yet still swaggering Shaq. The reminder of his fall from grace is not a healthy Bynum, but it's still pretty choice.

Also, to whoever been using the "Bynumite" tag: nice.

Most people believe it's all on Kobe. But Kobe's Kobe. He's gonna do what it takes to win (by the way dude that compared Kobe to Nash...totally different).

LO needs to step up. No more inconsistencies.

It's make or break time for him.

Lamar has got to be the biggest bonehead the Lakers have ever had, and I've been watching the team for a long, long time. For God's sake, when you see the 7 foot Bynum right in front of you trying to get the rebound, then give him just a little space instead of crowding him from the back. LO's complete lack of smarts is dangerous for his own team.

Timshow & Mel

Not making this one up. Kareem had been asked if he was working with all the Laker Bigs during an interview and he replied that he'd offered his serivces to Kwame as well. The Capt. was thrown by the reply from Kwame not being a back to the basket post player and that he didn't fell the need. I believe I read that interview on Lakers.com or here on the LA Times. I don't read many other sport pages so its pretty safe that it came from one of these two sources.

FAZE 1

I really don't think this injury is going to greatly affect the Lakers on the offensive end, other than possibly offensive rebounding. But it will hurt them on the defensive end, Bynum protects the rim better than Kwame and his rebounding is really going to be missed. That has been the strength of the Lakers, rebounding. Kwame can replace his presence in the starting line up, but the second unit is going to be severely weakened in that area.

Posted by: jtrincad | January 14, 2008 at 03:45 PM


jtrincad,

Nice points in your post. Andrew will be missed sorely on both ends of the court because of his presence, emerging post skills and being able to open space for his mates to get into the lane.

For the month of January, Andrew's numbers were 17ppg, 10boards, 2 blocks and leading the league in field goal percentage at nearly 64%(70% this month). Hard to replace these numbers. If Kwame and Ronny can get 15pts, 10-12 boards and a couple of blocks each game along with more scoring from LO, we should be fine. It's going to take a combination of Kwame and Turiaf playing well and our bench giving us more to keep winning. Go Lakers!!!

defensive player of the year is going to belong to garnett who has made a horrible defensive team into the best defensive team in the league. Kobe still has a chance to win MVP though his numbers are not that great , especially his assist to turnover ratio and shooting percentage.

good: a patellar subluxation means bynum's kneecap was only partially dislocated.

bad: if subluxation was predicted by congential predisposion to, say, patellar or general ligamentous hyperlaxity, then the chance of recurrence is probably pretty high (absent corrective measures).

The lakers will be ok. I don't just want to see Kwame play any bball. I will be back to my screaming self again, I remember just three days ago that I was relaxed watching a laker game and enjoying every moment. Now I have to deal with frigging Kwame BROWN. I can't stand him anymore. He looks so lazy that it drives me crazy watching that sucker.

I still think the lakers will be Ok but I will sure miss Bynum. He just turned into a guy that started making timely plays whether offense or defense. Kwame might be ok as a starter, even if he is, but he won't give us timely anything when we need.

Lamar needs to find his groove, and fisher needs to even lead more. We need our shooters back in the 2nd unit. We have too many slashers on the second unit and not enough shooters with Vlad and Sasha back. Our team will be better once we can get those shooters back.

i've had a couple of hours to digest this 8 week situation... and i still feel like throwing up.

People, calm down. The Lakers were not going to make the championship this year anyway. So without Bynum they lose a few games....and get a better draft pick to help next year.

If I had my druthers, I would not, under any circumstances, let that kid come back early. This season has already proven to us that playoff seeds don't mean much, and it is all about the playoffs.

Let him get back to 100% and let us make an assault of the Western Conference Finals. That's our goal this season. We need him back to his jumping, blocking, dunking self. No lingering doubts in his mind when he comes back.

Bynum, you have nothing else left to prove to us. We believe. Get yourself right, and be ready to battle when you do hit the court again.

--FearlessWhackJob

I'll have to take comfort in knowing the Lakers made this run last season with Kwane starting and Drew riding the pine.

mike T should be banned forever from posting here. his vooodo worked and i bet he was the happiest person on the planet. now he can enjoy watching kwame's calves while he freaking blows lay-up after lay-up. mike T is not a lakers fan, he is freaking kwame's man love.

Amazing_Happens,

Thanks for the info. I think Kobe can really cement his place in history, and in Laker lore if he can win both awards. To do it though, he HAS to keep trusting our guys. As much as I loved seeing Kobe average 30+ points it didn't make us a great team. Kobe HAS to trust our guys, lead us on the defensive end, and provide us with the leadership we're gonna need to get through this 30+ games.

The Lake Show,

That was a MUCH better explanation of the injury than that medical website that is linked to this blog. Thank you.

I just wish we do NOT under any circumstances try to rush him back. He needs to be at least 85% before he's allowed back on the court in a real game. Then use the last month of the regular season trying to round in at about 90-95% by playoff time.

We have been consistently pulverizing the rest of the West this season. We fear none of them, and thus our seeding means nothing. What we need to do is maybe sacrifice a couple games at the end of his rehab to better position ourselves to make it to the Western Conference Finals, and possibly beyond.

And, you are absolutely right, at 20, and new to sports, that final 5% or so is going to be completely mental. He may not have confidence in that knee for quite some time.

Thanks for the info,

--FearlessWhackJob

I think the lakers have a problem with their spacing on the floor. That is why they have too many players spraining their ankles..Every center they have had in the last 3 years has suffered from that..From Mihm, through, Brown, Turiaf and now Bynum..They are the only NBA team with that problem..They better look into it..

Sorry to see some bloggers blaming Lamar or anyone else for THE INJURY. Bad luck is all it is. Meanwhile the rest of the team can't use it as an excuse for not giving max effort. There are still a lot of winnable games out there and as professionals, it's their job to go ahead and win them. A rapidly maturing Andrew Bynum gave them a chance to be an elite team, but they can still be good without him.

Put me down for the Jelani McCoy Bandwagon. He was a great shot blocker at UCLA. It wouldn't surprise me at all to see him get to another level if we gave him a chance to play with Kobe, etc.

I say go for it.

Wow! Before reading this blog, I thought I was the only person who feels that Luke W is a liability on the floor. I stayed away from Laker blogs because I assumed everyone had this unreasonable love for how he plays. How wrong I was! And drfdeezy, man I COMPLETELY hear you. I pull my hair out when Luke, Lamar, and Kwame (3 stooges) are on the floor simultaneously. If the Lakers have 18 turnovers in a night, 16 are likely to come among that threesome.

This is a bad injury.

The links AK/BK posted say that the the recovery methods from this method are "controversial".

WOW!

I am just hoping Bynum's career doesn't get curbed by this.

Bad bad bad bad luck.

i'm as down on kwame as everyone else is. throwing the ball in to him at the post is like pitching it down a black hole. but one thing i've noticed: kwame seems to be one of those players who needs minutes. he comes out trying to do everything at once and then gradually settles into his game. keep a good thought, anyway.

"i've had a couple of hours to digest this 8 week situation... and i still feel like throwing up."

Posted by: sixonezero

Definitely agree. Definitely..............

LakerFaze,
I am not surprised. Why would Kwame want to work with Kareem given his highly developed and complete game.

Might also cut into his video game time.

bronxlakerfan,

>>>Kwame is like a box of chocolates...
>>>you never know what you are going to get.

Kwame Gump. Very nice image.

Runnnn Kwame Runnnnn!

People, calm down. The Lakers were not going to make the championship this year anyway. So without Bynum they lose a few games....and get a better draft pick to help next year.

Posted by: e. johnson | January 14, 2008 at 04:16 PM


Yeah, great, we get an 8 seed and a first-round humiliation, but at least we get the #20 pick as opposed to the #24 pick. WHHEEEE!

There is no way to sugarcoat this nightmare. We get to relive the same damn season we have had the last two years.

Lakerfaze,
"The Capt. was thrown by the reply from Kwame not being a back to the basket post player and that he didn't feel the need."

My trust in management has faltered. We LUCKED into Fisher. Bynum was a *great* draft picking and bringing in Kareem was even greater... but to sit back and have Smush start for two years and have Kwame as our main big for two seasons (even after the above happened), I'm highly disappointed. We need another hallelujah Ariza trade and hopefully sooner than later.

Without Drew, we're about the team we were a year ago. That team *could* win, but the question was always if they would win... let's pray.

e. johnson ,
"The Lakers were not going to make the championship this year anyway."

Well, you may be right... who knows. I'm confident in saying that the Lakers were a top 4 team in the NBA. Whether or not they'd be able to put it all together in the playoffs more than a San Antonio or the Eastern Conference titans, that remains the big question. I'd say it was at least worth talking about. Now that Drew will pretty much have to go back in time and regain much of the improvement that he has gotten thus far, I'd say NOW we're not in the discussion for the Finals. It would take some miracle working to get this team ready in the short of time we're talking about.

Maybe, just maybe this will somehow turn into a positive... maybe management gets rid of the few remaining losers on the team. Maybe somehow this does something with the team that bolsters their confidence. I don't know... I'm just thinking that somewhere we'll get something good out of this more than just Kobe achieving a third straight scoring title.

Lakerfaze... again I say to you just as I say to everyone on this blog... I'm cheering for Kwame because we need him now more than ever, but make no mistake of this... I want him GONE. GONE. We cannot afford to have clock punchers who turn down a chance to learn from the greatest. Idiot in so many ways that I cannot express...

GET RID OF KWAME AND GET RID OF HIM NOOOOWWWWW!

Bynum out 8 weeks?

Kobe-ball time?

Not good.

Hey, if the Suns could play well without Amare for a year, it will be no problem for us to play 8 weeks without Bynum.

Right........

OK, Lakers. Now prove you are worthy to get the ring.

 


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