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(Note: Sorry about the delayed post.  BK is in Colorado doing X-Games stuff for ESPN and I just moved with the girlfriend into a new place that became cable/Internet ready about 20 minutes ago.  I know y'all like your news ASAP, so apologies for the delay.  Anyhoo...)

Nobody expected a bout with the defending champeens to be an easy, peasy affair, which makes last night's 103-91 loss in San Antonio anything but outright shocking.  Not that the Lakers didn't have their shot at pulling off the upset.  In fact, the purple and gold's halftime chalk talk commenced with a nine point lead.  But an old nemesis, known in Laker Nation circles as "the third quarter," resurfaced to produce a frame where the visitors were outscored 31-12.  Kobe emphatically reminded his boys that the hometown soldiers weren't about to go down without a fight, a message they apparently took to mean, "I'll gladly do all the work for everyone."  From there, it was all about iso-born, highly contested shots and Mamba-assigned turnovers (which Phil Jackson felt reflected the ends, not the means) and tempers flaring a bit between young players- one of the pups being Jordan Farmar, otherwise enjoying a terrific sophomore effort- subbing in for ineffective vets.  Among the guilty is Luke Walton, whose bad ankle is affecting his ability to consistently contribute.  Sucks to be unhealthy, but according to Tex Winter, that's just tough noogies.  The Triangle guru feels its imperative for Walton and LO to step up their game during this Bynum-less period.  The Lakers will also need a steady dose of unwavering belief from Kobe.

If life is indeed one big popularity contest, then Phil Jackson is coming out smelling like a rose. 

More Bulls trade talk, this time not involving the relocation of #24 (although like those previous swap theories, this one could remain just as unlikely).

 
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Off to the next game!!!

Nice to see Pj get his props.

I don't like taking on Wallace's contract. Though he catches and finishes better than Kwame. I would look into someone with a better contract. Maybe younger. Unless if it is a suitable vet.

Luke like Kwame is playing injured. (small violin playing) Though I feel Lamar plays a LITTLE better than the two, 54, 4, 7 are oft injured. (I'm not proposing a trade by the way.)

Have a great day bloggers.

I would do the trade for Big Ben in a heart beat. Sounds like just a reporter in Chicago is day dreaming though. Odom and Walton do need to step it up also. DJ "Taco" Mbenga doesn't seem like the answer to our problems in the middle. He has commited 5 fouls in about 6 minutes of action now.

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THURSDAY (JANUARY 24, 2008)
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TODAY IS – BLAME THE SPURS LOSS ALL ON MAMBA24
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The Force is in balance and all is well in Lakers Blog Land. To quote Troy :
”You guys are acting like the Lakers, missing their star center, a potentially starting SF, their 3 point
specialist, and playing on the road, were supposed to beat the fully healthy world champions.”

The Spurs loss is all on me fellow Bloggers. Not Kwame, not Luke, but your’s truly Mamba24.
At the half when the Lakers were ahead by 9 I figured the game was over and so went out with my
Zombie/Vamp girlfriend. Imagine my horror when I returned to find out they lost. If I had just kept
my butt in front of the TV, the game would have been a rout, but noooooooooooooo I had to leave.
So all you Bloggers blame this one on me and I promise tomorrow we will destroy Dallas.
And just think we get to see last years MVP play this years MVP. OK. You know whats next.

ROLL CALL
(1) FAITH, MIKE T. TALIQ, Edwin Gueco ,, KEIFO, Wolf, Q WUOR, CLEON,
EASTCOASTJESSIE, MAMBA24Fan4Life, Fan of MAMBA, WhiteMAMBA24, Hmrhed
BlackMAMBA24, Afro_Joe, LAKERTRUTH, Kiwi, Wow, Peace, JCooL, David Whang,
AdamKiley, LakersryDeordie, ANGRYLAKER, TSIRY, ELLE, TIM-4-SHOW, tha_ SHOW,
TheLakeShow, WESJOENIXON, BAYWOOD, SBPIMP, utzworld THE BANNER HOLDER,
CaliKing, Rick Friedman,Thirty2, EXHELODRVR, ) JANAYA,CBUCK, DAXMDD, The D
GENERIC_ONE, TWOODY, JJ, Ajax, MITCHELL., LAKERTOM, Charles, BZAR, JUNO,
NEVER, LakaLover, Bynumite, LakerDogerDieHardInUpStateNY, Chucky.L.Ohnio, The Cat,
Sead94, LeftField, JOREMA, VMAN, Korey, Xtro, MCGarnagle, Gugy, GDChild, Laker4Life,
BLKTHGHT06, WONDAHBAB, KL BEAST, FearlessWhackJob, MARTY, JANDRO, LAKERFAZE,
PhxLkrFAN, PRINCE, AKRASIAN, TexasLaker, BOB, EagleBoy, JR., Zakee, KOBES T., ZEN,
Purple & Gold, TSPHERE, t_Sensei, Tully Moxness, KobeRocks, David Peterson, centralk,
FKILLAH, CYRUS(Ventrilquist), BOYSOY, Swettual, Andrew Z, LAL Fan, Brandon C.,
Kinglakernidas, HUBBIT, GREEK DUDE, BRONXLAKERFAN, RespectMyAuthorith, Hariyahu,
LAKER_STH, KobeFromManilas, RAY RAY, HOBBITMAGE, BONEZ, SARCOCOP,Staples24,
Bobby, COMPTONS FINEST, MIGUELINHO, MAN, KSANDHER, HYP117, TUKLAW, CDUB0512,
MRBARNEYDANGLES, BENJAMIN, MJCMAN32, PFUNK36, Christopher Lewis, SOCALIFE,
HAL9000, Michael J, Michael H, Michael A., ALEXINH017, VIOLATER, KIKOS_DAD, GINO, FATTY,
LAKERGURL, LEELO, CRITICAL BEATDOWN, BLAZE1BX, SIMONE, PAUL LEE, Jay EL, SocalSpider ,
WEAVE MAN, Jon Kavulic, Tajluck, NEMIA_FALETOGO, Caesar, BerkleyLaker, Dice8Up DION,
KARL, CRAIG, MITCHELL, B4HOOPS, RYAN, JR, Dascilla, tellitlikeitis, Nik Kannan, GABE, SEAN P.,
HanSoulFood, HollywoodJack, HAROLD, RICO TICO, DREW, NESTROSSBISTRO, LAKERAHOLIC,
LAKOBER, SLO GAL, Linda Pineda, Jay Jay, TaosHum, DEREK, ChiTownLaker, RealityCheckTime,
CORNER J., wiZo, MagicShaq, HugoBoss, OSCAR, RDLEE, RealityBites, LakerLarry, Bucky,
Guy, LakerLifer, C.S. Jova, Tripgame3, SIXONEZERO, HOUSTON LAKER, Todd BATTLES,
JONINJAPAN(INCANADA), LT Laker Fan, , KATE, TROY, Mainor, East Nyboer, Long Live Chick,
JEFF, ANDY B., SwanWorld, PUPLE&GOLD_4EVA, Benny Blanca, CS in Virgina,
TIM IN SYDNEY LakerBake, JMan, Mfeige, Jennifer, Any_One_mouse, 10milliondollarZen,
Shiva, Laker_Hopeful, LakerDawg, RDANEEL, PHIL JACKSON, KOBE BRYANT, MARC GASOL,
SUN YUE, JORDAN FARMER, RONNY TURIAF, V. RADMANOVIC, LAMAR ODOM, DEREK FISHER,
TREVOR ARIZA, LUKE WALTON, KWAME BROWN, ANDREW BYNUM, COBY KARL, CHRIS MIHM,
Jarvis Critterton, LarryFulcher, Sasha Vujacic, Tex Winter, Jerry Buss

ALL TOGETHER NOW:
WE ARE THE FREAKIN LA LAKERS THE WINNERS OF 14 NBA TITLES
THE TEAM WITH THE BEST WINNING PERCENTAGE IN NBA HISTORY
THE HOME OF WILT, KAREEM, GEORGE MIKAN, SHAQ, MAGIC, KOBE,
ELGIN BAYLOR, THE LOGO(JERRY WEST), PAT RILEY, JAMES WORTHY,
SILK, KWAME “ The Glove “ BROWN, SMUSH “ No parking” PARKER AND
COACHED BY THE 9 TIME TITLE WINNER PHIL (9RINGS) JACKSON
AND NO ONE WILL EVER CONQUER OR DIVIDE OR CONQUER


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THURSDAY (JANUARY 24, 2008)
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
TODAY IS – BLAME THE SPURS LOSS ALL ON MAMBA24
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
The Force is in balance and all is well in Lakers Blog Land. To quote Troy :
”You guys are acting like the Lakers, missing their star center, a potentially starting SF, their 3 point
specialist, and playing on the road, were supposed to beat the fully healthy world champions.”

The Spurs loss is all on me fellow Bloggers. Not Kwame, not Luke, but your’s truly Mamba24.
At the half when the Lakers were ahead by 9 I figured the game was over and so went out with my
Zombie/Vamp girlfriend. Imagine my horror when I returned to find out they lost. If I had just kept
my butt in front of the TV, the game would have been a rout, but noooooooooooooo I had to leave.
So all you Bloggers blame this one on me and I promise tomorrow we will destroy Dallas.
And just think we get to see last years MVP play this years MVP. OK. You know whats next.

ROLL CALL
(1) FAITH, MIKE T. TALIQ, Edwin Gueco ,, KEIFO, Wolf, Q WUOR, CLEON,
EASTCOASTJESSIE, MAMBA24Fan4Life, Fan of MAMBA, WhiteMAMBA24, Hmrhed
BlackMAMBA24, Afro_Joe, LAKERTRUTH, Kiwi, Wow, Peace, JCooL, David Whang,
AdamKiley, LakersryDeordie, ANGRYLAKER, TSIRY, ELLE, TIM-4-SHOW, tha_ SHOW,
TheLakeShow, WESJOENIXON, BAYWOOD, SBPIMP, utzworld THE BANNER HOLDER,
CaliKing, Rick Friedman,Thirty2, EXHELODRVR, ) JANAYA,CBUCK, DAXMDD, The D
GENERIC_ONE, TWOODY, JJ, Ajax, MITCHELL., LAKERTOM, Charles, BZAR, JUNO,
NEVER, LakaLover, Bynumite, LakerDogerDieHardInUpStateNY, Chucky.L.Ohnio, The Cat,
Sead94, LeftField, JOREMA, VMAN, Korey, Xtro, MCGarnagle, Gugy, GDChild, Laker4Life,
BLKTHGHT06, WONDAHBAB, KL BEAST, FearlessWhackJob, MARTY, JANDRO, LAKERFAZE,
PhxLkrFAN, PRINCE, AKRASIAN, TexasLaker, BOB, EagleBoy, JR., Zakee, KOBES T., ZEN,
Purple & Gold, TSPHERE, t_Sensei, Tully Moxness, KobeRocks, David Peterson, centralk,
FKILLAH, CYRUS(Ventrilquist), BOYSOY, Swettual, Andrew Z, LAL Fan, Brandon C.,
Kinglakernidas, HUBBIT, GREEK DUDE, BRONXLAKERFAN, RespectMyAuthorith, Hariyahu,
LAKER_STH, KobeFromManilas, RAY RAY, HOBBITMAGE, BONEZ, SARCOCOP,Staples24,
Bobby, COMPTONS FINEST, MIGUELINHO, MAN, KSANDHER, HYP117, TUKLAW, CDUB0512,
MRBARNEYDANGLES, BENJAMIN, MJCMAN32, PFUNK36, Christopher Lewis, SOCALIFE,
HAL9000, Michael J, Michael H, Michael A., ALEXINH017, VIOLATER, KIKOS_DAD, GINO, FATTY,
LAKERGURL, LEELO, CRITICAL BEATDOWN, BLAZE1BX, SIMONE, PAUL LEE, Jay EL, SocalSpider ,
WEAVE MAN, Jon Kavulic, Tajluck, NEMIA_FALETOGO, Caesar, BerkleyLaker, Dice8Up DION,
KARL, CRAIG, MITCHELL, B4HOOPS, RYAN, JR, Dascilla, tellitlikeitis, Nik Kannan, GABE, SEAN P.,
HanSoulFood, HollywoodJack, HAROLD, RICO TICO, DREW, NESTROSSBISTRO, LAKERAHOLIC,
LAKOBER, SLO GAL, Linda Pineda, Jay Jay, TaosHum, DEREK, ChiTownLaker, RealityCheckTime,
CORNER J., wiZo, MagicShaq, HugoBoss, OSCAR, RDLEE, RealityBites, LakerLarry, Bucky,
Guy, LakerLifer, C.S. Jova, Tripgame3, SIXONEZERO, HOUSTON LAKER, Todd BATTLES,
JONINJAPAN(INCANADA), LT Laker Fan, , KATE, TROY, Mainor, East Nyboer, Long Live Chick,
JEFF, ANDY B., SwanWorld, PUPLE&GOLD_4EVA, Benny Blanca, CS in Virgina,
TIM IN SYDNEY LakerBake, JMan, Mfeige, Jennifer, Any_One_mouse, 10milliondollarZen,
Shiva, Laker_Hopeful, LakerDawg, RDANEEL, PHIL JACKSON, KOBE BRYANT, MARC GASOL,
SUN YUE, JORDAN FARMER, RONNY TURIAF, V. RADMANOVIC, LAMAR ODOM, DEREK FISHER,
TREVOR ARIZA, LUKE WALTON, KWAME BROWN, ANDREW BYNUM, COBY KARL, CHRIS MIHM,
Jarvis Critterton, LarryFulcher, Sasha Vujacic, Tex Winter, Jerry Buss

ALL TOGETHER NOW:
WE ARE THE FREAKIN LA LAKERS THE WINNERS OF 14 NBA TITLES
THE TEAM WITH THE BEST WINNING PERCENTAGE IN NBA HISTORY
THE HOME OF WILT, KAREEM, GEORGE MIKAN, SHAQ, MAGIC, KOBE,
ELGIN BAYLOR, THE LOGO(JERRY WEST), PAT RILEY, JAMES WORTHY,
SILK, KWAME “ The Glove “ BROWN, SMUSH “ No parking” PARKER AND
COACHED BY THE 9 TIME TITLE WINNER PHIL (9RINGS) JACKSON
AND NO ONE WILL EVER CONQUER OR DIVIDE OR CONQUER


I told you fools King Kwame was going to represent. Sure he was -23 for the game (worst on our team), but people that rely on those statistics don't know much about basketball. King Kwame was closing lanes left and right last night, and he pretty much shut down Tim Duncan.

I told you this team would be better off without Young Bynum.

We are now undefeated without Andrew Bynum. The proof is in the pudding.

My latest study demonstrating all of this for the blog will be posted in 24 weeks.

I'm also investigating claims that P.J. is racist because he played Turiaf so much last night over Kwame. Results of this study will be post 75 weeks from now.

SHOOOEEE BEEE DOOO BEEEE DOOOOO

I disagree with the suggestion of Stan Smith. Wallace is also old and expensive, very soon he will be like Shaq perhaps even worst. I would go for the Spanish draft, Marc Gasol who might invite his brother to join the Lakers. By July, 2008, there will be a lot of free agents better than Wallace. Continue the training of Kwame under Kareem, give it a time, it might yield some productive results in the playoffs. With regards to Vladrad, it's OK if he's injured now but continue perfecting those perimeter shots. We need Vladrad shooting in the playoffs.

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MBenga is good only for rebounds and defense. This has been his specialty, it was the fault of Fisher to include him in the fast breaks. Tall people are clumsy catching the ball when on the run. PJ is not confident on MBenga. Kareem should continue training these guys with their offense and how to move in the posts, it takes time to train a giraffe to move like a squirrel, but a squirrel cannot do what a giraffe can reach.

Congrats on the move AK. Big committment haha, jk.

Anyways we appreciate all that you guys do whatever time it's done.

The Lakers plain on laid an egg in the 2nd half...particularly the third. That's really something that's fixable so it's not so bad. For starters, I doubt such a thing would be possible if By, Vlad and Trevor where in the lineup. For another, that's the Spurs for you. They just make teams look silly sometimes.

Someday I hope to get that level.

Go Lakers!

I do beleive wallace would be a nice fit for the lakers, but not at the price he's being paid and especially when his physical abilities are falling just as fast as shaqs. The lakers could do much better with kwame's contract than wallace.

I still wonder how close the talks where between the Lakers and Suns about swapping LO for Marion. This still seems like a great deal for the Lakers and Suns. Marion would be wide open for 3's (since LO always seems to be just standing there) and he likes Kobe. I sure hope that it was not the Lakers that turned down this deal. I am sure this is not going to happen but I think Marion would have been a great fit on this team. He also averages 10.1 rebounds per game so it is not like we lose much in that department.

Phantom

I'll be riding this sinking ship!

With regards to OC Register story under Lakers Blog about Jackson and D'Antoni, my comment here has nothing to do with the coaches. I give props to K-Bros, they promote their competitors in the business and mention them in this thread. Even when Lolo has a blog, AK/BK would not hesitate to give them some exposures.

I feel more confident against Dallas. Still, a very disappointing loss last night. A few crucial bad decisions (at the worst time) by Lamar. Kwame had a great first quarter and then was useless for the rest of the game.

Braveheart played well.
Sasha played well.
Kobe played like Kobe Bryant.
Luke was decent at times.

Otherwise, I'm a little pissed about the complete breakdown in the third quarter. We really played beneath our capacity.

GO LAKERS!

FROM: BRODERICK TURNER OF THE PRESS-ENTERPRISE

"In the first half, the Lakers outrebounded the Spurs 27-17 and outscored them 32-8 in the paint to build a 13-point lead."

I just want to follow up on the tactical error of having Brown in the box in the 2nd half against the Spurs.

In the first half Brown/Turiaf was being set up at the top of the key to set picks. That means that Duncan is out of the lower part of the key, hence the 32-8 points in the paint.

In the second half, with Brown in the box, that automatically puts Duncan in the defensive box. That's fried chicken for Duncan! The Spurs are in the top 3 in defense. Putting Duncan in the box by having Brown downlow to set up the offense is just a reciept for disaster.

FROM KOBE BRYANT:

"I think it's something we have to get out of the flow of our offense," he said. "It's something where we can't just throw the ball to Lamar and let him go or throw the ball to somebody else and let him go.

"That's not going to do anything for us. We've got to get it out of the flow of our offense, by moving and setting picks and getting guys open looks (at the basket)."

The Lakers did all that and more during the first half, building a 54-45 lead when Odom made a layup at the halftime buzzer. "

The guy who usually sets those picks is Kwame Brown. But it just isn't logical for Brown to set those picks from the box. It's just too congested with both Brown and Duncan down low.

When Brown is on top and sets those massive picks it's then that Odom and others should be moving/cutting to get free looks at the basket.

A number of things happen when Brown sets the pick. Brown can roll to the basket. I don't like Brown doing that all the time. I notice when Brown sets a pick and released quickly it doesn't work all the time. Bynum and Turiaf all the time to get to the basket. I call that a weak pick. But when Brown does it, it takes away from the effectiveness of the massive pick Brown is able to set.

I don't like Brown releasing so quick because his big body does a lot more when it freezes the player and allows Kobe more space and time to be creative. Not that Brown should do that all the time. But there should be a good mixture of having Brown:

1. Set the pick and holding it (The strong pick) and
2. When he sets a pick and released to the basket. (The weak pick)

Watch how Turiaf sets the high pick and releases to the basket. It works until teams adjust to it. At that time the high pick needs to be held more firmly to allow the flow of the offense to be executed more perfectly. By that I mean this: The other players have to move/cut to the basket when Brown or Turiaf set the strong pick without releasing to the basket so quickly.

mike

Tex Winter emphasized that both LO and Luke need to step up in the absence of Bynum and knock down shots, in order for the Triangle to work.

The reality is that both of those guys with so many years in the NBA have yet to develop a consistent jump shots nor the ability to create and break people down offensively. Both are stiffs who shift scoring responsibilities to others and pretend they're unselfish facilitators, while in fact they're obscuring their ability to score or finish plays, particularly the long-armed, 6'-10" LO blowing layups just a few inches under the basket.

We need more closers and finishers, not chokers.

Rollo

Joel Myers is still the worst.

Both Lakers teams showed up in San Antonio. Too bad, it looked like a winnable game.
Still, the stats tell the tale. The front court was miserable. Duncan out scored them by himself. You can’t win playing 5 on 2. In fact Farmar, Turiaf, and Vujacic scored as much as the 4 starters minus Kobe.

Walton is obviously hurting and the loss of Ariza is huge.

Kobe and Lamar combined for 14 turnovers. Didn’t I hear Kobe say something about taking care of the ball when their huddle was broadcast at the beginning of the game?9 TOs! Take your own advice.

They have shown the ability to bounce back after games like this. If they lose, they lose. Just don't suck doing it....

Ok so Luke is playing hurt, what's Lamars excuse?

Let's hope that the frustration of Wednesday night's loss to the Spurs can be channeled into something positive Friday night in Dallas.

A couple of notes about the Spurs game, first. (1) A lot of bloggers were quick to blame Kobe. But I agree with PJ that the poor play of the rest of the starters was a major contributor to too much Kobe ball and too many Kobe turnovers. What's a guy to do when Lamar, Walton, Fish, and Kwame are (a) not making or taking shots, and (b) not moving around without the ball, as the offense requires? (2) I will say this for Walton: At least he was an important rebounding force in the first half. (3) A lot of bloggers were critical of PJ for not calling a time-out during the meltdown. In fact, he did call a time out about 2:30 into the third quarter. It just didn't help. After that, he needed to save his remaining time outs for the 4th quarter if he needed them.

Now, on to the Dallas game. It is reasonable to think that Lamar and Fish will play better on Friday against the Mav's. It is unthinkable that they won't. Walton will continue to have to play big minutes while VladRad and Ariza are out, regardless of his bad ankle. Not much anybody can do about it.

All the injuries also result in Kobe playing too many minutes. Because he's needed at the 3 during much of the bench play, his legs are going to naturally give out, no matter how great his conditioning. All these minutes hurt the Lakers on both the offense and the defense.

This will require a high level of bench play, which can never be guaranteed, no matter how much enthusiasm and confidence Sasha, Farmar, and Ronny bring to the table. It was telling that we never saw J-Crit on Wednesday. His play just hasn't generated tremendous confidence by PJ, or in any way warranted the enthusiasm of so many bloggers. He will have to develop at his own pace -- so please, no matter how much you love his stroke or shot creation -- patience is needed. His time will come, but it's not here yet.

As for Kwame, maybe his agent should try to get him a NutriSystem endorsement, so he can shed those extra 20 pounds more quickly. He's still out of shape and his ability to contribute the way everyone would like him to is limited.

The keys to a win in Dallas will be the play of Lamar, Fish, and the bench. Everything else is pretty much a given. All we can say is, GO LAKERS!

OMG - AK is shacking up? What would Dr Laura say?

jk keep up the good work K bros, no one provides better updates on a sports team than you guys. Can you do it for the Angels too?

I am soooooooooooooo sick of watching Kwame Brown miss a layup and clap his hands.

I much rather prefer him on the bench clapping his hands as he cheers on Turiaf, who is hella better than Kwame.

It must be hard for Kwame to watch these younger guys who make less money than him, outperform him year after year.

Lamar is getting on my last nerve too. With his athletic ability and length, there should be NOONE on the Spurs to shut him down.

"The worst thing in the world is wasted talent" - Robert Deniro from A Bronx Tale

There are two Lakers that fit this statement to a T...and they need to be removed from this PROUD franchise. Its your move Mitchie!

Frankly I'm getting tired of hearing,

"Lamar Odom needs to step up"

Step up already! Geez!

nah, we would never blame Mamba24. He's the bomb!

Plus that loss was all on the lakers.

I do not get to see the Laker games on a regular basis but it is striking to me that Kwame does not play better basketball. He stunk against the Supersonics and Spurs. Both teams made big 3rd quarter runs when he was on the court. His defense was bad and offense nonexistent. I could not believe that Jackson did not pull him halfway through the 3rd and try to salvage the game last night. I am guessing that Kwame is being "showcased" so he can be traded. Even on a bad ankle he should do a better job of positioning his body. Although he does not like to mix it up Lamar would do a much better job of playing center while Bynum heals.

Lamar has the inability to focus. That is why he will never be an all-star.

Stranger in the Night - thanks for the laugh. The irony is many fans on this very blog said the lakers need Kwame to "bang" with the likes of Duncan and other bigs in the West. Duncan abused and toyed with the cake thrower.
On the other hand Turiaf blocked Duncan twice.

When hasn't Walton been hurting? He's always been hurting and he's hurting the team .

I agree with Rollo's comments above.....as well as Tex Winter's.

Lamar and Kwame have passive, slugish minds that manifest turnovers and under ahchieving on the court.....you can't fix that. They will have occasional good games when they play against other bums in the NBA. Luke has a mind...that's why he can always say exactly what is wrong with the play of the team after every lose. He is SO passive on the court because he just dosn't have the physical basketball talent to do more....you can't fix that either. We are not going to win the prize with three guys like this in the same starting line up...no way.

LAST YEAR FAILURE IS BEING REPLAYED IN JANUARY AFTER BYNUM'S INJURY. LAKERS IS VULNERABLE WHEN IT HAS TO DEPEND ON KOBE TO SCORE, PASS, REBOUND AND PROVIDE LEADERSHIP ON THE FLOOR. BUT LIKE TEX SAID, NO ONE STEP UP!! LUKE & LAMAR WAS TOO PASSIVE. QUITE FRANKLY, I DON'T KNOW WHY ALL OF YOU BELIEVE LAMAR & LUKE CAN STEP UP TO FILL THE BIG VOID LEFT BY THE LOST OF ARIZA & BYNUM. THEY ARE A NATURAL CHOKERS! THEY'VE PROVEN TIME AND TIME AGAIN THAT THEY DO NOT BELONGS TO BE ON THE SAME FLOOR AS KOBE. KWAME, WELL NOTHING TO BE ADDED BESIDE WHAT A SHAME!! IF I WERE HIM, I WOULD RETURN THE PAYCHECK BACK TO THE LAKERS ORGANIZATION.

THERE ARE VERY FEW PRACTICAL OPTIONS LAKERS COULD DO AT THIS TIME. MAKE A TRADE OR TWO BEFORE THE DATELINE FOR THE PLAYER(S) THAT CAN FILL THE VOID UNTIL BYNUM RETURNS IS NOT VIABLE SINCE NO ONE WOULD WANT OVERACHIEVERS' PLAYERS LIKE LUKE OR LAMAR. I WOULD RATHER HAVE THE BLOCKHEAD LIKE ARTEST & CARTER ON MY TEAM THAT LUKE & LAMAR. AT LEAST THEY COMPETE EVERY NIGHT. I WOULD ALSO START MGENGA & SASHA IN PLACE OF LUKE AND THE BIG STIFF. WHAT ELSE TO LOOSE! I GUESS IS THEIR RECORDS IN ABSENCE OF BYNUM WOULD BE 9-21, AND I'M BEING REALISTIC ABOUT IT. BY THE TIME BYNUM RETURNS, LAKERS' RECORDS WOULD BE 33-32, AN 8TH SEED IN THE PLAYOFF JUST AS THE CRITICS SAID IN THE BEGINNING OF THE SEASON. FOLLOW BY ONE AND OUT IN THE PLAYOFF.

Pastor,

I agree with you on what you commented on Joel Myers. Have you noticed the Laker broadcast nowadays are engaged in interactive programming with those surveys? Does it really matter on who wins on those surveys? Even worse, he gets out of the the game and interview celebrities however he could not get Jack Nicholson. When Chick was around, Jack invited him to his home. After the demise of Chick suddenly our broadcast booth became dry, no creativity at all, no opinion. During the time of Chick, he's not afraid to tell what it is, to the Coach, to the owner, to the player and even to referees. In the case of Joel, he protects his job, he has a spine but kinda' crooked, he thinks he's doing great with the LA market when he goes with the flow. I prefer Lawler of the Clippers. There are so many good broadcasters in the entertainment world, Jeannie should be careful in choosing one.

lagunnero,

I was just asking if there was something we could do. If he's working on it, then great, I mean... better late than never, right?

"Watch how Turiaf sets the high pick and releases to the basket. It works until teams adjust to it."

I know... first, Turiaf cannot hold Kwame's jock strap on these picks, and the defense can adjust so easily. I agree, Kwame rolling off the pick too often really negates the massive, big strong, herculean pick he's able to set with those massive calves and big long... oh, sorry, back to basketball... yeah, if he would pop out every now and then and drain that nice 18 foot jump shot of his, Kwame's picks would be so much more effective. I really think this is PJ's doing, he's probably telling Kwame "it's pick and roll... ROLL... Roll Kwame, not pop out"

KWAME was not ready last night. He has not been for the last 7 years. Kwame needs to develop first before playing in the NBA. It is just a matter of time before KWAME gets LOUD BOOS again. Save him more embarassment by sending him to the dleague.

He needs to develop his confidence in the dleague. Pretty sure that's where he is playing next year after nobody signs him up in the NBA.

It was not Kobe's fault the lakers lost yesterday. If you noticed that in the third, the lakers were playing 3.5 on 5 out there. Kwame (-1), Walton (-0.5). Walton can play well when the rest of the team plays well as well, but he's not talented enough to do so otherwise. Kwame's just the worst "player" ever to suit up in NBA history. I use quotes because he's not a basketball player. Period. Why can't people face this harsh truth and stop believing that he can do anything out on the court but breathe air.

i'm not too worried about dallas because they dont play an inside out game. and also they've shown that they'll match small for small so we could see turiaf play alot of center guarding nowitzki or even odom playing there

but yeah, their main offensive threat is nowitzki, and he's shown that he can be defended by smaller players (kobe for example)

and for an agile 7 footer he has some ugly post moves haha

Faith,

"Lamar Odom needs to step up"

Lamar has already stepped up. What you see is what you get. The only way, he can step up further if he brings a ladder while playing. lol!

Stranger ITN
75 weeks can't get here soon enough.

Because of you I don't need coffee in the morning, I just look for your posts on this blog. Hook me up with a dang Kwame jersey size 48 will ya?

Colorado loves the Lakers!

KWAME TIME in LA IS OVER.

Lakers are a bad team every time Kwame plays. It's the plain truth. Lakers are an average team with Odom and Walton. Pure and simple. It does not need analyzing and breaking it down play by play to see what's in front of you. The whole NBA league knows what we have in Kwame, and how the Wizards stole Caron Butler from the Lakers.

Laker fans should just continue to wake up and continue the BOOOOS. This is not to embarass Kwame, but to tell Phil, ENOUGH OF IT! Kwame enough of it, Mitch where is the replacement? Start Turiaf at C until Bynum gets back.

I was going to write about it in my next journal, how Kwame has no offense, has no rebounding, has no basketball IQ, has no confidence in himself AND HOW HE CAN NOT GUARD Tim Duncan.

Kwame was a bad player and has gotten worse. Laker fans has raised its expectation to its Center after seeing what a young 20 year old can do. Kwame's time in LA is ticking..

Just as Smush time was done last year. We resolved it with Fisher, Farmar, Crittenton and Sunyue! Lakers would do the same thing this year and make it a priority to find a replacement for Kwame. Mbenga same as Kwame can be had for 10 day contracts! This summer will be all about a back up C and PF. Then and only then Lakers will be an elite team, when the Kwamika is finally done.

I TOLD YOU SO.


AK
BK should hook us up with X-Games passes since he's in the house!

Colorado loves the Lakers and X-Games in that order!


PK,

You will see in my and Stranger's studies, how under-appreciated kwame is. Without him, we cannot get past the San Antonios and the Celtics. As you saw last night, Kwame man-handled Duncan. Duncan only had 17 boards. He would have easily had over 20 if Kwame wasn't in the game.

Stranger's report will be coming in 24 weeks time.. Mine hopefully in 7.

Any GM who has an option next year to sign Kwame, Mbenga, Sene, Chiek Samb, Fesenko or Marc Gasol (three in the dleague right now) as a back up big, who would you try and sign for less money?

It's a no brainer.

This could be the last season of Kwame Brown.

History will show:
Kwame Brown will go down as the greatest BUST of all time.
Kwame Brown will go down as the worst trade the Lakers ever made.
Kwame Brown will go down as MJ's worst decison in NBA.

Every Laker fan happy to see Smush gone, will be just as happy to see Kwame finally gone in LA.

Congrats on getting married AK.

Congrats on getting married AK.

Staples 24- you know thats not a bad idea- I wonder if the Lakers would have the guts to send the cake thrower to the d league.

My favorite Kwame play is his insistence on trying to slap the ball away instead of moving his feet on defense. I dont want my center going for steals like that, block a shot youre 7 feet tall.

The other thing I havent figured out is why the lakers insist on making Kwame a post threat when does not have the ability to make plays for himself consistently

maybe they shouldn't give up on lamar, luke, kwame, vlad rad just yet. maybe all they need is a summer.. but they have to want to get better. i wouldn't say time is up because look at steve nash.

can't sasha do anything else besides bounce up and down the 3 point line? i dont think i've ever seen him drive to the basket and get a layup.

if the lakers already know that they play better when they take charge and own their offense, why do they keep passing to kobe? are they just afraid to miss? a good shooting night for any player is 50%, if they shoot and miss an open jumper, they can just get the stat back up by making a layup. i mean, don't be afraid to miss, because since it is rare that kobe gets a game over 50%, they should just shoot it themselves. and a lot of times the rest of the team does shoot over 50%. so........ go ahead and shoot people.

LISTEN TO TEX WINTER

AK/BK would you trade lamar for shawn marion?

Bloggers,

Does anyone here think it's a possibly to get Artest from Cow-Town? I don't know if we could do it directly, but it's possible to get a 3-team deal going? Getting rid of Brown to say...Indy...Troy Murphy to Cow-Town...Athletic Big who can play side-by-side with Miller...Artest to the Show along with Douby (throw in...this can be replaced by anyone Kings want to give up to make numbers work). Artest can play the 2,3 & defend athletic 4's. Especially since he's motivated and wants to win now more than ever, I think it would be a decent shot.

Artest can defend all 4's in the NBA. He's strong enough for the bigger guys and quick enough for Amare/Dirk/S. Jackson/West...even Duncan from time to time.

I like this deal if you can sell it to Indy...who is in desperate need to rebuild. Freeing up some money would allow them a splash in FA this offseason...You've got Tinsley, O'Neal, Granger & 9 MIllion Dollars!!!

Cow-Town get's rid of a headache and get value for a player who already said that he would be opting out...And now you have Udrih (Fantasy Sleeper), Martin, Miller, Murphy, Salmons, Garcia, Moore & Hawes

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=981~1013~25~3000&teams=11~23~13~13&te=&cash=

Projected Starting 5:

PG: Fish, Farmar, Crit
SG: Kobe, Sasha,
SF: Artest, Walton, Ariza
PF: LO, Vlad
C: Bynum, Mihm

We might be exposed at the 5...however, Kawme is giving us nothing...but now you have one of the most athletically gifted 3,4 & 5's in the league. All of whom are long can hit the 3 and pull down double digit rebounds.

Any thoughts???

Faith- Can you put a call into Kobe to start playing D again? The Lakers need his energy on defense more than on offense.

tim,

Actually the point was this: Turiaf has a better fundamental understanding of the game than Kwame does. Turiaf has 4 years of college experience to play off of. When Turiaf rolls off the pick he's doing what is natural for him. When Kwame does it doesn't have the same impact. What's natural for Kwame is to set the lineman pick to kick the rest of the offense into motion. That means Odom and Walton should be cutting when they see Kobe coming off of the Kwame strong pick. It should be reaction. But the Lakers aren't reading that deep into the execution of the offense.

Right away when Odom and Walton see Kwame go to the top to set the STRONG pick they should be getting ready to move. When they see Kobe coming off that pick they should be in motion to the free spot or an open look at the basket. Or Kobe takes the jumper from around the free throw line.

Kwame, since Bynum has been down, it seems to me, has been going with what worked for Bynum and Turiaf. And that was a weak pick and rolling to the basket. The weak pick isn't because they can't hold the pick, I don't think. It's because they have their minds on scoring a basket. If their minds weren't so intent on the basket they would set the strong pick so that the rest of the offense can break free and execute off of it.

Of course all three players, Brown, Bynum, and Turiaf have to combine both the Strong and Weak picks at different times to keep the defenses honest.

Right now, from what I'm seeing, Kwame Brown is rolling to the basket to be "envogue" with what has been happening with Bynum and Turiaf. And in doing so he's cancelling one of his biggest assets.

Another thing about Brown is this: The guy isn't putting any details to his game.

Let me explain. The Lakers, I think it's common knowledge, asked Kwame to be a defender. And to some degree, when he's healthy, he's done that. But what Kwame doesn't seem to understand is this: What the Lakers have asked him to do, well...it is supposed to be like a skeleton of the game for him to operate out of.,

The priority is defense. And Kwame does his best to do that. It's the skeleton. But what he's not doing is added flavor or meat to the bones of the skeleton. By that I'm mean this. Watch Kwame get an offensive rebound and the first thing he does is look for Kobe or others to pass the ball, too. Bynum, on the other hand, looked for the lane to the basket when he got an offensive rebound and more often than not he put the ball into the bucket. Kwame needs to add meat to the skeleton by grabbing the offensive rebound and checking to see if there's an opening to the basket before he looks for Kobe and others to pass the ball.

Those are details that Kwame isn't putting in.

Another detail Kwame isn't putting is this: In the first quarter Lamar Odom had the ball down low. It looked like he was going up but he didn't. Odom threw it away. He threw it away because he thought that Kwame would be diving to the basket. Kwame didn't dive. He was "watching the game." Kwame very rarely dives to the basket to create scoring opportunities because he's watching the game. My feeling is that he's taking it "literally" when his coaches say to him: Don't worry about the offense, just concetrate on defense and rebounds. Again, Kwame is missing the details in this facet of the game. He's not adding meat to the skeleton pattern of the game that his coaches have laid out for him.

Another thing I saw Kwame do wrong is this: Early in the first quarter Walton tried to penetrate off the baseline and 3 Spurs surrounded him and Walton threw it away. That was Walton's fault but Kwame was right there watching the play. Kwame should have been the first one back when the Spurs broke to the basket. Kwame let the Spurs get back before he reacted. Again those are details that Kwame's game is missing.

And those are the reasons why PJ is quick to pull him from a game even though it's PJ who is the one who told Kwame to "just" concetrate on defense and rebounds.

If Kwame would add "details" to the skeleton of his defensive game...he would add, at least, 4 more points and 3 more rebounds to his stats and PJ wouldn't pull him from the game.

That's my opinion.

mike

Oh....On my last post, I forgot to add turiaf into the PF lineup...nevermind being weak at the C position. We can play small or big...pick your posion...

"Posted by: Laker Lover | January 24, 2008 at 01:34 PM

When hasn't Walton been hurting? He's always been hurting and he's hurting the team .

I agree with Rollo's comments above.....as well as Tex Winter's.

Lamar and Kwame have passive, slugish minds that manifest turnovers and under ahchieving on the court.....you can't fix that. They will have occasional good games when they play against other bums in the NBA. Luke has a mind...that's why he can always say exactly what is wrong with the play of the team after every lose. He is SO passive on the court because he just dosn't have the physical basketball talent to do more....you can't fix that either. We are not going to win the prize with three guys like this in the same starting line up...no way."

Amen brother, I was going to right a long post about these 3, but I just dont have the time.... Also look at the production from these bums yesterday
22pts 20RBS and 10 turnovers, and that's just the stats, combined they make about 30M.... What's funny is most people overate their defense as well including PJ ( whom I agree with most of the time except for his analysis on these 3)..... Lets open up the trade rumors again, I can't stand these Lakers, so unpredictable....

Truth is Lamar is a good rebounder and ball hadling skills... EVERYONE ON HEAR NEEDS TO FACE IT, HE HAS NO OFFENSIVE SKILLS PERIOD.... ANd also I should add he is a very overrated defender as well.....

Everyone screams, shouts, what in the helll is a 20% 3 point shooter standing around the 3 point line, it's becuase he has no inside outside game...The guy lacks in offensive skills....

With all this said I would still keep Lamar but only for a max 8m a year... Luke and Kwame, well no comment anymore from those two....

There is no rest for the wicked – Laker Nation.

1. As sleeping, geriatric giants go, the Spurs still have "it". The loss is not shocking. The key is how the Lakers perform against Dallas, Cleveland, and NY. They need those three games to keep their mo going into that fat roadie.

2. Is it 8 weeks yet?! I have experienced a dynamic paradigm shift Laker Nation – no that’s not an STD – I have enjoyed the Laker games much less without AB. It does not have anything to do with whether they win or lose, it’s the excitement of seeing what he will do next. I never though I would say that with 24 on the court, but it’s true. I can’t bear to watch last year’s team again.

3. Predictions – don't bet the farm on it, but -- beat Dolllass close, blow out bron bron, blow out Zeke and the misfits.

Later ...

YOU EVER NOTICE

Puke
a lot of bloggers are excusing Puke's performance on his injury.....
HE ISN'T THAT GOOD WHEN HE'S HEALTHY
What is this love affair with a guy who thinks he's Magic and Kobe but can't deliver.
Luke err... Puke=The Great White Hopeless

Lamar
$13,000,000 $13,000,000 $13,000,000 $13,000,000 $13,000,000 $13,000,000 $13,000,000 $13,000,000 $13,000,000 $13,000,000 $13,000,000 $13,000,000 $13,000,000 $13,000,000 $13,000,000

THAT'S EIGHT FIGURES PEOPLE

Lamar has no touch around the basket, how many times does he brick it off the backboard when attempting a lay-up. Though not quite as bad as Kwame
If he hasn't learned it by now ... he never will. It still amazes me that he has no one-on-one skills. Last night he was guarded by the Spurs guards, if you can't take advantage of that kind of mismatch... whats the point? we might as well move him to the center position and play Turiaf more. Small Ball

Phil Jackson....
to the blogger who said a few adjustments wouldn't have matter.....
STFU

this game was eerily similar to the first game played this year in San Antonio
THIS WOULD HAVE BEEN MY STRATEGY
Let Duncan score all he wants (he dominated our centers) and lock down everyone else. WE WIN WITH DUNCAN SCORING 40 OR FIFTY POINTS
this worked in the first half, but in the second half everyone collapsed to the middle and SA had open look after open look from the outside
You think an adjustment was in order??????
woked against NO and Chris Paul


Jon K the good fan,

"I'm a little pissed about the complete breakdown in the third quarter."

Can we boo now or would you rather we punch them in the throat?

IN CONCLUSION:

The Lakers have provided Kwame Brown with a skeleton (defense and rebounds) to grow his game.

Kwame Brown probably feels "misunderstood" because he's been injured for the past year and a half. And Kwame might feel betrayed because he's doing, when healthy, what the coaches have asked him to do, which is defend and rebound.

But what Kwame doesn't understand is this: That skeleton the Lakers provided for Kwame was done in "good faith." The "good taith" was that Kwame Brown would understand that he has to grow meat to add to the skeleton of his game.

Up to this point Kwame Brown doesn't seem to "get it" about the need for him to nuture himself off the action of the ballgame. (The details I explained earlier) That's why when we hear rumors of trades for Kwame Brown it's probably because he doesn't seem to "get it." It not that he doesn't have the physical attributes to succeed. But the question is this: Does he have the proper understanding of how the game is grown and played.

In other words it probably goes like this: Phil Jackson goes to Jim and Jerry Buss to discuss basketball business. And when they discuss Kwame it's probably with the idea that Kwame doesn't "get it." PJ probably says this to justify his point: We provided Kwame with a good foundation to grow his game but he doesn't seem to adding the details required to get to that growing point.

That breaks down to Kwame's natural understanding of the game. That's is where the lack of the college experience is hurting Kwame. Kwame is trying to do everything right, trying to "fit in" but it doesn't work because he's not growing natually due to the lack of the details the Lakers want him to pay attention to. He's not growing natually because he takes the skeleton of the game the Lakers want him to play out as a literal interpretation of how the Lakers want him to play.

Kwame has to show that he understands the nature of the game and not just play from the skeleton of the game the Lakers have provided for him to grow from.

THE DEVIL IS IN THE DETAILS!

Tic, tic, tic...the clock is ticking on Kwame Brown as a member of the Los Angeles Lakers. The Lakers are waiting for Kwame Brown to "get it." They probably had already given up but the Bynum injury has bought Kwame time to show that the Lakers are wrong about him.

mike

The Lakers fell to sixth place last night,t hey better hold tight for the last playoff spot, Houston, Utah and Portand are coming strong

Joel needs to go.

lakers.com keeps putting up cool stuff from the road trip. its worth checking out. i wish they would do more of that with the practice stuff instead of just usually showing the interviews. farmar must have a better game tomorrow.


GO LAKERS

what's wrong with joel? if anything, i think patrick o'neal should switch with lindsay soto cuz every player looks so annoyed whenever he interview them, and i always cringe because he talks more than the player.

"Those are details that Kwame isn't putting in."

The other thing he's not putting in is the ball in the basket.

Laker Lover I'm already drinking like a sailor.

Thank goodness I'm on vacation and don't have to deal with patients haha, jk.

I really don't understand what's going on lately. Is it a concerned effort from Kobe via Phil that he must forgo most defense with Bynum gone, and try to find any and all easy offense (the purpose of free roaming steals) because we can't score as well without him? I mean he's not the worst in the team (that crown goes to Luke), but he hasn't been helping either. As the leader of this team he should set the standard. Kind like he did in games past.

Still last game wasn't so much Kobe as it was Kwame. TD got anything and everything he wanted. I like Kwame, but that was bad D for the most part. He bodied him up, but didn't make adjustments when TD made adjustments.

You know I'm not that upset, except to note that we have had three "statement" games this season and we are currently 0-3. Though, this was clearly the most winnable of the three. By far.

People are vilifying PJ for not calling time-outs and getting all demonstrative, etc. during the Spurs run.

I don't know. Not only does Kobe have to show his team mates that he believes in them, as he did beautifully in this game. Supporting them, warning them, trying to coax them along. I applaud his efforts. He came out of this game with a noticable lack of frustration. Well done, especially in defeat. Perfect leadership.

I think that PJ also has to show that he believes. When PJ believes, he doesn't call time-outs. He leaves it up to the players to right their own ship. The fact that he didn't call a panic time-out gives a clear message that he did not panic, that he believed the team would work it out. We almost did, after all.

You can really put the whole games on a nightmare 1:30 to end the third. The rest of the game was clearly going just as PJ had planned it. As a learning tool. And a win at the same time.

Circumstance and a few untimely 3's spelled disaster.

But, clearly, this team does not fear San Antonio. Not in the slightest. And the way we lost does nothing to sway our confidence. San Antonio has to be weary of us.

This is that game for which we've proven we don't *need* Bynum to win. We just need execution for the dudes already suited up. That is a very valuable lesson for a depleted team to realize.

I turely believe both PJ and Kobe (and Fish) will try to use this loss as a way to teach and motivate. They've already started. We'll see if the rest of the guys are receptive.

It would be nice to win at least one "statement" game, though.

I'm just saying...

--FearlessWhackJob

mike

Posted by: | January 24, 2008 at 04:25 PM


That was me. I guess I forgot to put my name in the fields provided by the site.

mike

Elle,

"Ok so Luke is playing hurt, what's Lamars excuse?"

Lamar has the same excuse; Luke is hurt.

--FearlessWhackJob

"I am soooooooooooooo sick of watching Kwame Brown miss a layup and clap his hands."

You don't get it, do you?

That's Kwame clapping and saying, "I believe in Kwame" So he doesn't fall down dead."

James Barrie - Peter Pan

A front line of Lamar, Kwame Brown and Luke Walton is the weakest in the NBA. They are not going to get better.Compute the compsite average in scoring, rebounding and turnover and you will think you are thinking about bench players. In addition the triosome are not durable (injury prone).
What to do? Replace all three. They are not good. The Lakers will be better off going small and playing those who can score.
Basketball is simple to decide. Whoever scores more wins. It is not boxing.

I feel bad for Kobe. With most teams as good as he is he can at least take a team to the second round, but not with Lamar (all potential), Kwame Brown(has upside) and Luke Walton(good passer).

I looked at the assists in the NBA and I could not find Luke Walton. His contribution is dismal. Move Kobe upfront in place of Walton, bench Lamar in place of Turiaf and tell Kwame to stay out of the offense. Kwame can play longer if he plays half of the court. He should park in the other team's half and wait to collect defensive rebounds.

I am just disappointed.

Kobe, Jordan and Turiaf are doing a good job. Fisher is doing what he can do,
accepting the fact that he is not a top flight point guard to begin with. He plays hard.

Lamar, Kwame and Walton should do the team a favor. Ask the coach to be benched.

Lakers Fans have a new weapon…..
At the last home game fans were very patience rather than BOO they gasped at Kwame and LUKE miss-steps, it was like AAAAAHH …OOOOOOO. PJ was afraid of being Booed so he had good rotation (good minutes spread all around). We got a win and the BOOO Birds were silent. …… NO MORE WAITING.. WE WANT TO WIN NOW

Road Games a different story… no threat of being booed by home fans, so PJ goes back to his old ways. PJ whole game plan seems to be centered around keeping his beloved injured non producing Luke Walton on the floor as long as possible in hope of being able to just squeeze by and get a win. Keep in mind that we have better and rested players on the bench.
Fans have very little input on what Jackson and the player will respond to. There is a time to Cheer and a time to BOO that’s just a part of the game. I believe it is time for fans to step up, to send a message to the front office (BAD TRADES), Jackson (bad rotation) starting/playing wrong players. PJ whatever happen to playing the best player able to play now and is producing now. Players need to shape up or get BOOOOED. FANS NEED TO STEP UP AND TELL THE TRUTH ON THIS BLOG WHEN A PLAYER/COACHES/ OFFICALS ARE STINKING UP GAME. AND DO NOT BE FOOLED BY THOSE FRONT OFFICE PLANTS ON BLOG TRYING TO COVER UP THE FACTS. JUST LOOK AT THE BOXSCORE STATS.

If you care about your team, you must speak out ON THIS BLOG, you must BOOO (when needed) as well as cheer. What else can you do? No more letting them play out of a bad let down without much effort or a time out, PJ (BOOO to YOU TOO).

Cupcake get real!!! Bring on Wilcox and Villanueva

YES I AGREE.....

“FROM NOW ON KWAME BROWN AND LUKE WALTON SHOULD BE BOOED EVERY TIME THEY TOUCH THE BALL. It is a message to Kwame for the seven years he never tried harder to get better. IT IS A MESSAGE TO PHIL JACKSON TO STOP THE EXPERIMENT and play Rony Turiaf as starter. IT IS A MESSAGE TO MITCH TO NOT RESIGN KWAME AT ALL COST. IT IS A MESSAGE TO MITCH TO GET US A SOLID BACK UP FOR DREW. ITS’ A MESSAGE TO LUKE WALTON AND PHIL THAT IF PHIL WANT TO START AND PLAY NON PLAYING LUKE BECAUSE OF THEIR LOVE AFFAIR THEN LUKE AND PHIL WILL HAVE TO SUFFER AS WE DO WITH BEING CALLED OUT ON THIS BLOG AND WITH BOO BIRDS.

Boooooooo! Kwame!

It WILL work....... PHIL\WALTON CAN NOT TAKE IT. PJ WILL BE FORCE TO TAKE WALTON OUT.

Next time Walton plays so bad.... booo him too. PHIL will get the message quickly. LO no more 3 point attempts....this is a booo

This is the NBA, we deserved to watch NBA caliber type players not d-leauge talent. No excuses!

The fans have spoken in Staples last night. ENOUGH OF KWAME BROWN!"

Keep up the chant until we get some results. Keep Booing until the FO is too embarrassed to bring the offenders back for another season.

Don't just sit there and cry!!! FLY BOOOOO BIRDS FLY.
FO needs to drug test all players 2 times a week.
The official’s seems to be gambling again, while the league looks the other way.

PLAY HARD EVERY NIGHT LAKERS, FIGHT HARD FOR 48 MINUTES.
GO LAKERS

Hey almost cellmate Idiot,

When we having a Kwame calves' viewing party? You and Stranger want me to proofread your report? I'm almost ready to take my GED.

Faith,

>>>> Frankly I'm getting tired of hearing, "Lamar Odom needs to step up" Step up already! Geez!

Exactly what I was thinking.
Even worse is when, after a bad game, Lamar talks about what he or the team needs to do better. If he knows it, he should just do it.

>>>> Joel needs to go.

Exactly what I was thinking.
Last night was so annoying, I actually ended up watching much of the game on ESPN.

The spanked us last night, but they're losing to Miami? Gotta love the NBA, there's no such thing as the top team right now...I might vote for Detroit if I had to pick one.

Nice to see Kwame earning his paycheck, but he was joined by a lot of people last night. Still, isn't guarding people like Duncan supposed to be the one thing he can really do?

It was just another bad game that is the only way to put it, now maybe they will put together another win steak of 7-10 games. But this only happens if Lamar and Luke get of there buts and start playing the whole game.

Could not agree more with mike...

I know exactly what Kwame is doing with his 9 MIl a year...buying Lakers court-side seats....He's more of a fan of the game than we are. Everytime he's on the floor, he's a spectator...At least Kwame share the wealth with others and buy a round for Jack.

What are peoples thoughts on my previous blog...about the Lakers getting Ron Artest??? Would the FO be willing to take on him....I feel that we could steal him from Cow-Town. i.e. how the Bulls stole Rodman...when the Pistons got Wallace...I feel it's the final piece to the puzzle...we could make up for the terrible Butler-Brown trade by taking a similar player (just a tad bit older, more hungry & focused).....

BK...Any thoughts???

"If he knows it, he should just do it."

Exactly what I was thinking (haha). Actually I'm all for giving him props for owning up to games when he literally stunk it up (as he's done in the past). But at a certain point, it's about finding a way past that. Owning up to your mistakes doesn't help if you don't try to correct them.

I'm sure most Lakerville vets (lol) know that I've supported LO, and am still behind him. But come on...like I said before, the guy is a perennial trade bait, "all-star but..." and when it comes down to it he's got the cards. If he wants to stop the trade talks, play so well you're untouchable, if you want to be aggressive, average 20, 10 consistently.

...The Lakers have provided Kwame Brown with a skeleton

AND IN RETURN KWAME IS GIVING THE LAKERS AND THE FANS (THE BIG BONE)

.... Kwame Brown probably feels "misunderstood"
But what Kwame doesn't understand

heres what you dont understand , WE DONT CARE ANYMORE
IF HE DOES IMPROVE ( DOUBTFUL ), BUT IF HE DOES IMPROVE HIS GAME, WE HOPE ITS ON ANOTHER TEAM

I wish Lakers would trade LO for someone who actually wants to be the 2nd option on a team. He is physically talented, but lack of heart and desire.

I don't think Ben Wallace is completely done. I think he has a bad attitude, and when his team
isn't doing well he gets sulky and doesn't play as hard. It is possible that a change of scenery to
the Lakers with a winning record would jump start him a bit.

As for the Sam Smith idea of Ben Wallace for Kwame and Rad, it's not very workable right now.
The Lakers started off the season with three 7-footers playing as one of the tallest teams in the
league. Now with Bynum and Mihm down, if they traded Kwame away it would leave them with
no 7-footers and as one of the shortest teams in the league.

I hate to say it, but from now until Bynum gets back, Kwame is about the best option that's
realistically available to the Lakers to fill in for Bynum.

Fearless Whack Job,

What are your three statement games??????

I'd say the three biggest statement games for the Lakers this season were these:

December 25 against Phoenix. Showcase game on national TV. Everyone was healthy, and
the Lakers had a solid win.

December 30 against the Celtics. Sasha was the only one injured, and they sure could have
used his 3-point shooting (they shot 29% of 3's). The short shorts contributed a little, and the
Celtics d contributed a little and Bynum foul trouble contributed a little and the Celtics trounced
them.

January 9 against the Hornets. New Orleans had pounded the Lakers at Staples early in the
season, so this was a chance to respond, and respond they did. Kobe got as many rebounds
as Tyson Chandler, more assists than Chris Paul, and one more steal than the whole Hornets
team. The Lakers thrashed the Hornets soundly and all 11 players that played scored.

A game like last night couldn't be called a statement game, as the Lakers were missing their
second best player. Same thing with the previous game against the Spurs, where the Lakers
were healthy and Duncan and Parker were out for the Spurs. You can't make a statement
against half a team (or you can, but it doesn't mean much).

J.C.,

>>>What are peoples thoughts on my previous blog...about the Lakers getting Ron Artest???

My thought on is it's not going to happen.

The main reason it's not going to happen is that the Maloofs would NEVER give an all-star to the
Lakers, who they HATE for knocking them out of the playoffs several times.

But even if they would, I'm sure they can get more than just an expiring contract for Artest.
If the Lakers were serious about acquiring him, they'd have to give up more than just Kwame.
I mean, think it through. Ron Artest has said that he's going to opt out. So if Sacramento really
wants an expiring contract, they already have one. No need to trade for Kwame to get that.

An entry level offer would be something like Farmar or Crittenton + Kwame + Ariza for Artest
and either Shareef Abdur-Rahim or Kenny Thomas. That's in line with the sort of packages
Sacramento is reportedly asking the Knicks for - they reportedly want David Lee and Nate
Robinson and somehow want them to take Thomas back in the deal (though the Knicks don't
really have any expiring contracts to give them for Thomas).

More likely, if Mitch called and asked about trading for Artest, they'd say, "Sure. We'll trade
you Ron-Ron for Bynum, Kwame, and Farmar. No problem."

I like Artest, but I don't think the Lakers have a realistic chance of getting him.

fisheye,

>>>Cupcake get real!!! Bring on Wilcox and Villanueva

So who says Seattle is willing to trade Wilcox or Milwaukee is willing to trade Villanueva?
I haven't seen any rumors regarding their team wanting to trade off either of them.

If you're going to ask for players, why not dream big and say Bring on Duncan and Boozer?

Question for you all, is Stephen Jackson a better player than Lamar Odom?

We will prevail tomorrow.

Go Lakers!

I agree with starting Turiaf instead of Kwame. He is smaller, but that should be okay against Dallas.

And how come PJ played Fish so little after he had such a great game against the Nuggets?

what I want to know is WTF?! Ginobili struck mamba in the chops with an unnatural follow through and the league does nothing... the witch hunt is still in full effect.

why would they replace kwame with another big man who is useless on offence? the lakers will not find an equal replacement for bynum (although maybe C-webb could help) but the most important thing in a replacement would be a center who can score. The lakers need someone who can draw attention inside and away from kobe to give the mamba some room to work.

I agree weaknesses in the lakers starting lineup. Perhaps ariza should start when he gets healthy. I dont see kwame being on this team for the long term. Perhaps walton as well. Odom *should* be one of the top 20 players in the league. Well see if that comes out - he could just be saving himself for the post season.

This message is addressed to the lakers organization. Lamar Odom and Luke walton must rpend more time in the Gym and readjust their shooting because they are under 25%FG and for a player of their caliber it is unacceptable the future of the laker this season depends on these two and unless they contribute in the shooting spree we are nothing but pretenders. Everybody else is doing great !


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