One down, three to go
It's rare when teams get a chance to go on the road and get fat and happy. Then again, it's rare for teams to get four straight roadies against bad and/or struggling teams, as the Lakers will get this week. Cleveland (struggling), Philly (bad), and New York (cataclysmic, and apparently not big on criticism) are still to come, but Tuesday night L.A. kicked things off on the right foot with a 103-91 win over the Bulls in Chicago. It was their sixth win in their last seven tries, and it happened despite a slow night (7-19, 18 points) from Kobe Bryant. Instead, it was the supporting cast who kicked in during a solid, controlled, 48 minute effort, capped by a 20-6, game capping fourth quarter run in which 24 didn't score a point. The box shows five other players in double figures, including 19 from Sasha Vujacic, who hit six of his ten shots from the floor. L.O.? 17/16. Andrew Bynum played a career high 40 minutes. Luke Walton had a second straight solid game, with 12 points, five dimes, and no TOs.
All in all, it was a pretty satisfying end for Lakers fans, if only because it perhaps drops the lid on the "Kobe-to-the-Bulls" coffin. Kobe admitted that before the season started, he really wanted to be a Bull (fair to say some fans wanted him, too). But for now, everything is hunky dory. Besides, it was apparently just the deep dish pie that attracted him to Chicago in the first place... right? However you slice it, the Bulls are still without that One. True. Star.
It's a shame the schedule makers didn't give Kobe's teammates a chance to pull what would have been a pretty sweet practical joke.
Mike T,
Your comments about position defense are not as relevant as you believe. I'll take a shot blocker over a position defender every day of the week.
How does Bynum's position defense correlate to a "layup parade?" If you are saying that Bynum allows his man to establish position too close to the basket, then I would argue that his height and length to alter shots more than make up for any "position" deficiency. You make the arguement that opposing players will somehow adjust to his shot blocking ability and somehow make layups around and over him... how? How can you adjust to a shot blocker? I'll take a shot blocker who can alter every drive into the lane versus a guy who plays good one on one position defense. How do you adjust to a position defender? Ball movement. If you catch a position defender out of position, he gets dunked on. If you catch a shot blocker out of position, he can still alter the shot.
I haven't seen Bynum get abused defensively by anyone this year. My biggest complaint about him is his pick and roll defense. Last night he was huffing and puffing at the end of the first quarter and didn't even attempt to contest a jumper by Heinrich.
PJ needs to rotate him in and out more to keep him fresh.
On offense, Bynum still needs work. But so did Dwight Howard last year.
All in all, I'd take Bynum every day of the week and twice on Sunday over Kwame (Elden Campbell reincarnated) Brown. Brown's basketball IQ is on par with a 7th grader. You can see the wheels turning on every play: "Where am I supposed to be on this play?" "I hope I don't drop the ball out of bounds because Kobe will never pass me the ball again." Kwame may have a stronger lower body than Bynum, but his help defense is horrible.
If you have any question, then take a look at Hollinger's PER. Bynum is #8 on the list of centers, though if you take out the power forwards like Tim Duncan out of that list, then he is #3, with only Dwight Howard and Yao Ming ahead of him (Boozer, Duncan, Amare, Bosh, and Al Jefferson are true 4s).
Posted by: Tom T | December 19, 2007 at 11:35 AM
Jabbar got abused by Moses Malone. Kareem couldn't handle the Malone body type. Kareem can't teach the Malone body type. That's why I said Kareem couldn't teach Kwame too much. Because of the body type.
mike
Posted by: Michael Teniente | December 19, 2007 at 11:35 AM
Mike T. writes:
"But I count on you to say dumb things otherwise I couldn't be mike t."
This is just downright bizarre.
Posted by: laljunkyinOH | December 19, 2007 at 11:42 AM
Mike T.,
Interesting point about body type. Do you really think he has the same body type as Kareem? There is definitely similarities, but it seems Bynum's body structure is a bit differen from kareem where he can still develop some lower and upper body stength b/c I was worried about this too. The reason I ask is Bynum is already able to be a more physica player than Kareem, and is throwing down some dunks when bodies that Kareem could not do.
Also, what are your thoughts about my comments feeding Bynum at the post position?
Posted by: Mike | December 19, 2007 at 11:43 AM
Mike T, you're comparing Kwame and Moses Malone? Are you getting into your Christmas cheer too early? No, they didn't really have the same body type, and Kwame is NOTHING like Moses Malone. That's ridiculous.
I mean, Malone could catch the ball, and he was skilled. That's a big difference right there.
Posted by: Michael A | December 19, 2007 at 11:46 AM
Very few players could handle the Moses Malone body type. That's like saying player X can't handle Shaq's body type. NO ONE can handle that. I doubt anyone is putting Bynum in that category. But Bynum is cleary better than Kwame Brown on both the defensive and offensive side of the ball.
Posted by: Tom T | December 19, 2007 at 11:46 AM
LOL! So... Jabbar didn't learn anything from his experiences with Malone? I mean... do you remember a few weeks ago, Kobe was showing Bynum an old move that Shaq used but... Kobe's not 7 ft tall so how could he possibly know enough to explain a move one 7 footer made to another 7 footer? I mean... this is your logic, right?
Kwame should be kowtowing towards Jabbar and calling him "Master"... carrying his bags, offering him fresh drinks and fruit...
I bet Mihm has picked up a couple of things from Jabbar but oh yeah... he's intelligent... that doesn't count! LOL! Wheee! Kwame's a bruiser, and bruisers don't need no stinking advice! especially from some Hall of Fame skinny guy!
Posted by: TaosHum | December 19, 2007 at 11:47 AM
mike,
"Giving up position is a matter of strength, and skill. Kwame is like a brick wall. Bynum has a difficult time holding his position and keeping players out of the paint b/c he isn't that strong right now, and still lacks the skill. "
That's what I'm saying for this season. You see Bynum isn't going to develop any faster this season with playing time. This is a matter of gaining strength, which in Bynum's case will take at least another year.
My concern is for next year. My concern is a Championship this year with Kobe as the offensive weapon and Kwame sealing the paint.
But right now I have to eat and then workout. I'm trying to "kick" this blogging habit...but I'm strung out bad. LOL!
Oh before I forget.
"Mike T, you're saying you followed Kareem's career from his last season at UCLA throughout his professional career? and yet, didn't you also say you were recently in prison or ??? was that a joke? Jabbar was at UCLA in 1969, which would put you at 60 years old or damn close??? "
I was a kid when Kareem was in his final year at UCLA. I was like 10 years old. I remember the Bucks getting the first pick and taking Kareem. I remember that because I'm an L.A. sports team fan.
Back then it was like this for me: L.A. Rams, Dodgers, Lakers, KIngs, and the UCLA Bruins in basketball and the USC Trojans in football.
I watched Kareem and Magic win it all from a jail block in 1980. I mean, this is America. They had TVs in jail even back then. Heck, as a matter of fact, in the "hole" in DVI, which is Tracy, Gladiator school back then, they used to give you a TV. LOL!
I have to workout now.
mike
Posted by: Michael Teniente | December 19, 2007 at 11:48 AM
Faith,
I'd like to join the Sasha bandwagon too. Tom T I have to agree with you on Kwame, he is and always will be second best to Bynum.
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Posted by: generic_one | December 19, 2007 at 11:49 AM
I really enjoyed the game last night. It was good to see the team put someone away.
Mike T, you're comparing Kwame and Moses Malone? Are you getting into your Christmas cheer too early? No, they didn't really have the same body type, and Kwame is NOTHING like Moses Malone. That's ridiculous.
I mean, Malone could catch the ball, and he was skilled. That's a big difference right there.
Posted by: Michael A | December 19, 2007 at 11:49 AM
Mike
Say what u want...But Bynum is doing is making lemonade with his lemons lol. He is doing what we need him to do rite now, which is to protect the paint. He is getting rebounds and intimidating ppl when they get in the paint. PERIOD...THAT IS IT... FINISHED lol
Point is after he challenges a shot much like Camby it is up to his teammates to cover his man like he was covering their man. It comes back to what Faith preaches...ROTATIONS, ROTATIONS, ROTATIONS.
Posted by: Bonez | December 19, 2007 at 11:51 AM
The problem with Kwame is not just his hands and lack of offense. It seems the biigest problem is Kwame and why he hasn't fullfilled his potential is b/c the game does not come naturally to him, as it does Bynum. Its almost as if taking a big fast physical outside linebacker and trying to teach him b-ball. It just doesn't come naturally with Kwame, and that is true in almost all facets of his game.
Posted by: Mike | December 19, 2007 at 11:51 AM
I think what Mike T is trying to say is that Kwame's strength is his lower body strength and position defense. This is something Kareem never had so how can Kareem help him with something he knows nothing about?
Well, to answer that question is simple. Kwame needs to work on his weaknesses. Which is pretty much everything else!
Posted by: zen | December 19, 2007 at 11:53 AM
Roger B,
Sasha has been playing well, but I don't think he should play a small forward. He doesn't have the size to play at that position and his defense isn't that great.
I hope Crittenton gets some pt during this road trip.
Posted by: never | December 19, 2007 at 11:54 AM
Yeah, Kwame just doesn't have the b-ball instincts. That is a major problem and could explain why he hasn't shown that potential.
Posted by: Thomas | December 19, 2007 at 11:57 AM
Mike T,
I like Kwame. I think he's a valuable part of the team. He's no Moses Malone, not even body type. Kwame's more of a Benoit Benjamin body type. Benoit was pretty good in his prime, he could hold his position down low, like Kwame. But both players are limited by their lacking work ethics. Kwame even more by his lack of hand-eye coordination.
Don't get me wrong, Kwame will be needed on this team. Just not as much as Bynum will be needed.
OK, I'm done trying to convince as everyone is entitled to an opinion.
Posted by: Rocky | December 19, 2007 at 11:58 AM
The amazing thing to me is that Mike T says ridiculous things like this and thinks he still has credibility...or that he's had any for a long, long time.
Faith, I agree with you, that whole conversation was ridiculous.
Posted by: Michael A | December 19, 2007 at 12:00 PM
It's not worth discussing Mike T on "valid points", or credibility, or even about how much he spams the blog with completely fabricated comments. For Mike T, no offensive statistics, no defensive statistics, no "expert commentary", no video footage, or even DAMNING evidence can remove the affectionate and loving looks towards the lean, muscular, uncoordinatedly spectacular body of Kwame Brown. He is his one, he is his only.
Cursed be the 7 foot, 6 inch wing span of a 20 year old who actually plays in the basketball games while the object of Mike T's affection tries to be healthy for the 3rd time in 2 years! It doesn't matter that you can't play "defense" or "offense" when you're too injured to sit on the bench nor dies it matter if he can't hold a basketball in his hand. It's... that body. And that body is all that matters.
Posted by: Alec | December 19, 2007 at 12:00 PM
SASHA BREAKOUT BANDWAGON
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(2) LONGTIME LAKER LOVER
(3) greek dude
(4) Rick Friedman
(5) Tsphere
(6) Yoda
(7) Xodus
(8) Nonzki
(9) Elle
We're few but we're proud!
Posted by: Faith | December 19, 2007 at 12:01 PM
I seem to remember the Phoenix Suns running layup lines on us in 2006 with Kwame playing 34 minutes a night in that series. I also remember Steve Nash killing us on screen and rolls, too.
I guess that didn't happen. Not with Kwame "sealing" the paint. If we didn't have Kwame we wouldn't currently be enjoying our 4-8 record over the last two postseasons.
Kwame Brown. Where Championship Defense Happens.
Posted by: Xodus | December 19, 2007 at 12:02 PM
Roger B,
Sasha has been playing well, but I don't think he should play a small forward. He doesn't have the size to play at that position and his defense isn't that great.
I hope Crittenton gets some pt during this road trip.
Posted by: never | December 19, 2007 at 12:02 PM
Kwame Brown at 25 = KAJ at 5 years old... nuff said!
Posted by: Bzar | December 19, 2007 at 12:02 PM
tendencies…
Jordan has a habit of dribbling between his legs, dribbling in position waiting for things to be set up. It’s not the smartest thing, because it allows the defense to get set, and makes us have to play the clock (leading to shots at the end of the clock, one by LO driving to the layup, and one by Luke midrange).
He needs to either pass the ball, and get it back, or he needs to set people up before he gets stuck in the key dribbling between his legs.
Posted by: Faith | December 19, 2007 at 12:03 PM
I'd like to rant a bit about shot contesting and shot blocking. What impresses me the most about Bynum's shot blocking ability is his ability to block the shot while its in the air and after the ball has left the shooter's hand. My biggest gripe with Shaq was his infuriating penchant for trying to block shots at shoulder level, oftentimes while the ball was still in the opponents hands. It led to too many fouls for reaching. Like Bynum, if you block shots up high, then even if you don't get the ball, you oftentimes alter the shot. And you are less likely to get called with a body foul down low. Twice last night Bynum blocked the shot but made contact with the body and wasn't called.
Posted by: Tom T | December 19, 2007 at 12:05 PM
Mike,
Kwame can not taught by Kareem because he does not care to become better in this league. Hey, as far I'm concerned he is setup for the whole life even if he is not going to play a single game. You're either blind or just don’t care about reality, In 2 years Kwame did not progress in any way. I bet there is no single soul in Lakers organization who did not regret this trade for Caron Butler. Even talking about Kwame "skill set" is laughable because he is always injured. What drive me and I'm pretty sure all fans nuts, he still collecting 9M+ salary when he is in street clothes. One of the big points at this trade was inability because salaries cap to offer market salary to extend Caron Butler. It seems like he is not looking awfully expensive now, when he is putting 2nd ALL-Star season.
Posted by: LAL_Fan | December 19, 2007 at 12:05 PM
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Posted by: Brian Kamenetzky | December 19, 2007 at 12:06 PM
Kwame is good at Defense only. He is a one dimensional player with use only in certain instances. On offense he slows the team down. Mike T. lives in a dream world. the Lakers are doing really well without him. I just love all of the "if this and this didn't happen and then this happened then we wouldn't be doing so well" arguments. If the Lakers keep it up, Kwame will be gone at the deadline.
Posted by: PhxLkrFan | December 19, 2007 at 12:07 PM
Boy another Mike T drinking Kwame koolaid day in Laker Land.
I dont know where Mike gets off saying Moses schooled KAJ. I dont have the numbers in front of me but KAJ held his own against everyone, including the phsyical centers.
Mike reminds me of that guy who watches a no hitter but complains about the one or two walks the pitcher gave up.
Posted by: Laker Lover | December 19, 2007 at 12:10 PM
mike,
I have to answer your question because they are legitimate questions.
That's interesting about Bynum's body type. Because he has the length of Kareem but he still growing and his body type is going to be something like Chamberlain.
What that means is this: If this guy really develops to the point where his skills are legit then he'll be dangerous.
I've been studing body types because I wanted to know why the Lakers are like 15-20 games over 500 when Kwame is the starter in the regular season. I wanted to know why that was happening when he wasn't getting a lot of rebounds and blocked shots. I've broken it down to position. And that is broken down to body type.
What makes this interesting is this: A lot of the guys in the NBA have the same body types. I'm talking about the centers. And from what I'm seeing they are cancelling each other out. In other words everyone is allowing penetration. And that's why people put so much emphasis on rebounding anb blocked shots. Everything is happening so close to the rim. That's the nature of the game.
What Kwame is doing is pushing the game far away from the basket. With Bynum and others with similiar body types, they get their rebounds and blocked shot withing the context of the game. What Kwame is doing with his body type is changing the context of the game.
That what I mean by pace of the game. Bynum and others aren't changing the pace of the game. Their getting their numbers but the pace of the game isn't changing. There is still a lot of penetration. But that's normal. What isn't normal is how far Kwame is pushing the game from the rim.
In the end that's what the Lakers are going to need. In the long run Bynum is going to break because he's not changing the pace of the game and sooner or later all that penetration is going to lead to the lay-up parade.
That's why I say Kwame is in the top 3 as far as defensive centers go. Nobdoy, but nobody is doing what Kwame is doing.
I'll go as far as to say this because I'm studing it: In the HISTORY of the NBA I don't think there's an a center who has pushed the game so far away from the basket. The closes thing to it is Shaq because he was massive. But Kwame is both massive and fast footed, which allows him to push the game as far as to the top of the key and still recover. And from the baseline he's pushing the game at least 4-5 rims away from the basket.
Bynum and other are playing something like 1.5 to 2 rims away from the basket. That means a close shot and they have to rely on their shot blocking abilities.
I was going to write this stuff in about a month in perfect detail but I let it out. I still have to give a full explanation to what I mean by "rims" from the basket.
I will in time.
mike
Posted by: Michael Teniente | December 19, 2007 at 12:11 PM
>>Hate to start this early but since we don't use Kwame and Mihm, any conjured
>>trade scenarios for that PF weed need?
I did a HUGE post of Kwame trades yesterday. Check about 2 blogs back. I think
it was "His kind of town... not so much now".
Of course, it's all just messing around, and some bloggers get all verklempt any
time someone posts a trade, but here are the best trades I was able to come
up with that didn't give up any players that are in the current rotation that's
playing so well (i.e. the only tradeable players are Kwame, Karl, Mihm, and
to a lesser extent Crittendon):
http://tinyurl.com/23m6ln (Malik Rose & Randolph Morris)
http://tinyurl.com/2xhfud (Jeff Foster & Marquis Daniels)
http://tinyurl.com/ywllao (Channing Frye & Darius Miles)
http://tinyurl.com/2wc7ss (Brian Cardinal & Hakim Warrick)
http://tinyurl.com/37r8dj (Jason Collins & Josh Boone)
[warning to the squeamish: the next few trades include Crittendon, so they're
not for the faint of heart]
- http://tinyurl.com/24lmk8 (Shelden Williams, Acie Law, and Lorenzen Wright)
- http://tinyurl.com/yv2m6f (Drew Gooden & Cedric Simmons)
- http://tinyurl.com/3bnr3a (Eduardo Najera, Steven Hunter)
Note that almost none of these trades are likely to happen right now. But if
it gets closer to the trade deadline and Indiana starts sliding or Dallas falls
out of the top 5 in the West or something like that, then those teams become
much more inclined to pull a trade, so the trades to those teams would become
more plausible.
Posted by: Long time Laker fan | December 19, 2007 at 12:12 PM
Rocky,
Everyone is convinced. There's only one guy out there who isn't. And if we have the priveledge to hang more banners at Staples because of Bynum, he'll get on here and talk about how we made a grave error trading/not signing/misplaying Kwame and we could have won even more titles with him, because we all know, Kwame is a champion. Bynum is a mere All-Star.
Hey, what was all this LeBron talk?
Do people on this blog really get upset if someone says something good about LeBron? I've never seen someone get upset simply for saying something nice about LeBron... in fact, many of us were licking our chops hoping he'd leave the Cavs, but then he signed that extension.
I will say this, for as much hype as Wade got when he managed to draw fouls and win the NBA title, LeBron, IMO, is 5 times the player Wade is. LeBron is hyped up, but he's easily top 3 players in the league. The other two being Duncan and Bryant. Where you want to rank these guys is up to you. Each has their strengths and weaknesses.
Now when someone comes on here and says Kobe can't hold a candle to LeBron, why can't Kobe be like LeBron, etc etc... that's begging for an argument. They're two different types of players. Kobe is the best at his style. LeBron is the best at his style. Duncan is the best at his style.
Which one is all-around better? Well, we can argue that until we're blue in the face, but maybe we should organize that pay-per-view match you guys suggested. Lakersblog could split up the millions it would bring in!
Who wins a Kwame vs. B. Wallace one on one? I'd put my money on Wallace.
Posted by: Tim-4-Show | December 19, 2007 at 12:13 PM
BK,
"over-aggressive comment filtering"
TypePad is just protecting the rim!!
That's all that matters; it doesn't make a difference that it completely slows down all the posters from commenting!!
Posted by: exhelodrvr | December 19, 2007 at 12:13 PM
Mike T:
As Sir Winston may have it:
Today, Bynum may be young and lean, but tomorrow he will be stronger and wiser. Kwame, on the other hand, will always be a chump.
Posted by: The D | December 19, 2007 at 12:15 PM
Xodus,
Don't you get it? Mike will explain to you, it was a Phil's error to use Kwame against fast penetrating guards like Nash/Barbossa. He will also tell you Kwame did not get any help defense on the play and etc. It would be someone else fault because Mike (aka Kwame) always right and getting Kwame is best thing ever happened to this team since getting Kobe and drafting Shaq.
Posted by: LAL_Fan | December 19, 2007 at 12:15 PM
Thanks BK. I was going to sound in with my spambot complaint, but no point now.
$150 to watch Kobe and LeBron play 21? That's not even real basketball, might was well pay to watch soccer players do a shoot-out.
PhxLkeFan - if any team makes a reasonable offer for Kwame at the deadline, no doubt, he's gone.
Posted by: Michael A | December 19, 2007 at 12:18 PM
Xodus,
Don't you get it? Mike will explain to you, it was a Phil's error to use Kwame against fast penetrating guards like Nash/Barbossa. He will also tell you Kwame did not get any help defense on the play and etc. It would be someone else fault because Mike (aka Kwame) always right and getting Kwame is best thing ever happened to this team since getting Kobe and drafting Shaq.
AK/BK
I don't know what are those folks working on (I'm software developer too) but it seems it's going nowhere. I keep fighting it through spam bots. I already tried 4 different browsers, like IE6, IE7, Opera and Firefox, does not see any difference.
Posted by: LAL_Fan | December 19, 2007 at 12:19 PM
Faith, we have to be proud, we are the members that support the best looking Laker player. How could we not be?
Posted by: Elle | December 19, 2007 at 12:19 PM
On Farmar:
Only rarely do I see Farmar standing around dribbling. As the point guard, he sometimes needs to wait (while dribbling) until the players set up the offense.
I've noticed that most of the time he is the only player moving without the ball, especially when he's playing with the 1st unit.
What I see in the 2nd unit:
Pushing the tempo - old school showtime fast break with Farmar leading the charge, Vlad spotting up, Sasha slashing or spotting up, Bynum/Turiaf trailing the play.
Great on and off the ball movement, fearless shooting, generally good shot selection, great energy.
Problems with the first unit:
Kobe taking forced shots early in the shot clock. I like the idea that the Lakers are taking early shots if they have good looks outside the triangle. Kobe needs to better shots early or pass to the open man.
This is how I envision it:
24-16 seconds: early offense - layups/dunks, wide open jumpers only.
16-8 seconds: work the triangle for a good look.
8-0 seconds: let Kobe go to work.
Posted by: Tom T | December 19, 2007 at 12:19 PM
oh lord this is getting comical
"My concern is a Championship this year with Kobe as the offensive weapon and Kwame sealing the paint."
The only paint Kwame is going to seal is from Home Depot and Mike T is sniffing the paint thinner.
I wont even go into how Kwame cant seal the paint when he is covering the pick and roll 20 feet from the basket. Arrgh.
Posted by: Laker Lover | December 19, 2007 at 12:21 PM
Laker Lover - well, it did happen in a couple of major playoff series. Kareem never played badly against anybody, but Moses was very hard for him to handle. Every one forgets, despite Doc, Bird and even Magic, there was a 6-year stretch in the late '70's, early 80's where Moses was the most dominant player on the planet. He's easily the more underrated player of his caliber.
Posted by: Michael A | December 19, 2007 at 12:23 PM
Laker Lover,
"Mike reminds me of that guy who watches a no hitter but complains about the one or two walks the pitcher gave up. "
I don't think this is accurate. If you add in that the player he loves and adores happens to have a 5.3 ERA while also griping about how coach bias led to a bogus no hitter (and it wasn't that great because he walked those two guys), now you have an accurate description.
Posted by: Tim-4-Show | December 19, 2007 at 12:24 PM
Kwame Shwame...
With his injury-prone dispositon and lack of consistency, the dude makes Famar look like a hard-nosed veteran.
He's the first to go come next trade season...or hopefully mid-season.
Posted by: Phil | December 19, 2007 at 12:41 PM
Mike T,
You said, "But right now the Nuggets aren't better off with Camby as the defensive player of the year. "
Just so you know, Denver's highest lenova stat (+/-) on the floor belongs to Marcus Camby at +134. That means when he is on the floor they are better. Iverson is +123 and Anthony is at +88.
If Bynum develops into the shot blocker and rebounder that Camby has been, I will be very happy. Bynum's offensive game is already better than Camby's.
Go Lakers!!
Posted by: Neerav | December 19, 2007 at 12:43 PM
I would rather we throw entry passes any day of the week into Bynum instead of the "other" guy, because at least he's efficient offensively regardless how he gets his shots. All that matters is what his teammates and coaches say about his play and that we're winning. If his defense is compared to Camby, that's not bad being compared to last year's DPOY. It's just great to see Andrew, Sasha and Farmar improve and contribute consistently for us now. It's exciting to root for our team because they're improving and doing well right now. I like our situation a lot better than the one in Miami where they have two hulking centers in Shaq(former league MVP)and Alonzo Mourning who are getting shredded down there in the paint. Regardless of their age, those two have been getting killed in the paint(I watched all the Heat's games on NBALP, so I know what I'm talking about). Both Shaq and Mourning get the majority of their fouls deep in the paint or under the basket. I have two questions for everyone on here.
1. If you had to choose between having Shaq or Kwame right now who would you choose and why? Mourning or Kwame who would you choose right now and why?
2. Who is the Lakers best center right now, Andrew or Kwame?
This should be good. Enjoy fellow Lakers fans.
Posted by: Nemaia Faletogo | December 19, 2007 at 12:45 PM
Defending Kwame is like defending Smush. I guess if you need attention this is the type of actions that you take. Talking about a wasted life. Now I can understand if you are in prison and you have time to waste but this is really a pathectic way to get attention.
BD
Posted by: BD | December 19, 2007 at 12:49 PM
Here is an idea. Why not waive Kwame Brown and see if someone bites and sign someone like PJ Brown?
I
Posted by: Watcher74 | December 19, 2007 at 12:53 PM
Here is an idea. Why not waive Kwame Brown and see if someone bites and sign someone like PJ Brown?
I
Posted by: Watcher74 | December 19, 2007 at 12:54 PM
Bynum, Gaosl, Turiaf, Odom, Vlad, Ariza, SunYue, Sasha, Kobe, Crittenton, Farmar, Fisher!
2008-2009 Roster
Bynum/Gasol/C draft pick
Odom/Turiaf/PF (Pecherov, Russia) (Schoulintidis, Greece)
Ariza/Vlad/SunYue
Kobe/Sasha/Karl
Crittenton/Farmar/Fisher
Out: Kwame, Mihm and Walton
Posted by: Staples 24 | December 19, 2007 at 12:59 PM
Kam bros what time did your show start today i thought it was 12:00
Posted by: PK-IN-THE-MESA | December 19, 2007 at 01:00 PM