We'll be talking about Kobe soon enough...
...on 710espn.com, "The Big Show With Mason and Ireland," sitting on for John Ireland, who's with the team in Phoenix. We're on the air as we speak, so drop on by. One of our scheduled topics, once we're done with Joe Torre, is some purple and gold.
UPDATE: ACTUALLY, WE MAY ONLY BE TALKING TORRE, AS IT TURNS OUT. BUT YOU'LL ONLY KNOW FOR SURE IF YOU LISTEN.AK
Bulls GM John Paxson is quoted as saying a Bulls-Lakers deal is off . . . for now.
Posted by: Peace | November 01, 2007 at 04:34 PM
Hey watch out so the fact that JBUST has a DRINKING problem doesn't come out of your mouth. you might not be able to get anymore gigs like this one in the LA area. Good luck to yall.
Posted by: rayray | November 01, 2007 at 04:36 PM
Okay Mike T. Here's some scientific evidence to support your theory that it's
better to have Kwame on the floor than Bynum. These are the "adjusted +/- numbers"
for all of the Lakers from last year. Adjusted +/- is like regular +/- but statistically
adjusted for what other players are on the floor.
Kobe Bryant +8.70
Brian Cook +3.48
Lamar Odom +1.57
Luke Walton -0.76
Sasha Vujacic -0.91
Kwame Brown -1.56
Jordan Farmar -1.59
Vlad Radmanovic -2.03
Maurice Evans -2.52
Ronny Turiaf -3.07
Smush Parker -3.91
Andrew Bynum -5.95
So Mike T is right (wrt last season anyway). The team does much better with Kwame
on the Floor, despite the better offense from Bynum. Despite Brian Cook's complete
lack of defense, he had the second highest adjusted +/- on the Lakers. So Mike T,
I expect to see you using this information to promote Cookie as much as you're
promoting Kwame. And while you're at it, you can promote Luke Walton and Sasha
Vujacic as well, since they BOTH have better adjusted +/- numbers than Kwame.
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Since the Lakers added DFish this season, I thought I'd throw in his stats:
Derek Fisher +2.74
Good to have another player in the plus column.
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Here's the stats of a few players the Lakers didn't manage to get to help Kobe
in the last few months:
Kevin Garnett +12.35
Jason Kidd +8.74
Shawn Marion +4.01
Jermaine O'Neal +3.30
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And in case you're wondering about some of the players that have been in the trade
rumors for Kobe, here are their numbers:
Gilbert Arenas +8.80
Shawn Marion +4.01
Amare Stoudemire+1.25
Leandro Barbosa +0.88
Raja Bell -0.85
Jason Terry +3.97
Devin Harris +3.69
Josh Howard +1.79
Luol Deng +5.58
Ben Gordon +3.03
P.J. Brown +0.97
Tyrus Thomas +0.23
Thabo Sefolosha -0.01
Kirk Hinrich -0.62
Ben Wallace -1.00
Joe Smith -2.08
Chris Duhon -2.43
Andres Nocioni -2.72
Ron Artest +6.25
Here's a link to the article where I got these numbers from:
http://www.82games.com/ilardi1.htm
And also, here's a link to where they're keeping the stats from this season (though with only
1 game played, statistics aren't realistic):
http://basketballvalue.com/topplayers.php?year=2007-2008
Posted by: Long time Laker fan | November 01, 2007 at 04:48 PM
If Kobe focuses his energy on defense... we may win in Phoenix. If he intends to win the game by himself, like he did opening night, its gonna be a long night.
peace. tuning radio to 710 as i type
Posted by: joey numbers | November 01, 2007 at 04:49 PM
Ding dang nab it! I thought the Lakers played tonight. I went to Sizzlers and got the take out salad bar so I could stuff myself throughout the game. I guess I'll have to work out instead.
LOL!
Posted by: Michael Teniente | November 01, 2007 at 05:04 PM
joey numbers -
"win the game by himself" eh?
And what ball bobbling, poor shooting teammate would you prefer he pass to instead? Kwame? Luke? Turiaf? Bynum?
Wake up - have you been watching us the last 2 seasons? Kobe himself is tired of having no other scorers to pass to which is why the Buss Boyz screwed up in not getting him someone and why he asked for a trade in the first place!
Posted by: Jay Jay | November 01, 2007 at 05:59 PM
Look on the bright side Mike T, now you'll have a few more hours to perfect the conspiracy theory for tomorrow's game.
Wes
Posted by: wesjoenixon | November 01, 2007 at 07:14 PM
How about this trade that gets us Deng and Gordon?
http://tinyurl.com/35axj4
I don't think Kobe will object to playing with Josh Smith instead of Deng.
Kwame Brown/Nazr Mohammad
Joakim Noah/Joe Smith
Josh Smith/Andres Nocioni
Kobe Bryant/ Thabo Sefolosha
Kirk Hinrich/Bum-off-the-street.
That team should be competitive enough for Kobe to sign off on a trade that leaves us with:
Bynum/Mihm/Turiaf
Odom/Mcdyess/Cook
Deng/Walton/Radman
Gordon/Mo/Vujacic
Fish/Farmar/Crittenton.
We'd prolly ask for a pick or two back as well, but this team can build around Bynum, Deng, Crittenton and use Gordon in a sign-and-trade next year for a better fit at SG.
Of course, we'd have to waive Speedy Claxton, but if management truly wants to get rid of Kobe while getting back talent, they should be prepared to take that hit.
I'm assuming that Detroit would want Big Ben back.
Posted by: hariyahu | November 01, 2007 at 07:31 PM
Did you read what Joe Johnson had to say in Atlanta?
http://www.ajc.com/hawks/content/sports/hawks/stories/2007/10/31/hawksmain_1102.html','618'
""I knew it was a rebuilding situation where they had a lot of young guys and they wanted me to come in and help lead them in the right direction," Johnson said. "But at the same time, there were supposed to be some more pieces, some more free agents. They talked about it again this past summer. But as you can see, nothing happened.
It's been frustrating ... it's hard. We can only do so much as players. But I don't even know what's next. I love the guys we have. This team, we're a tight-knit group. And we've been through all the ups and downs together. But at some point, you just want to see a little relief come along so we can all have a fighting chance to do what we do best and get this team to the playoffs."
Same message - different tone.
Posted by: hariyahu | November 01, 2007 at 07:46 PM
hariyahu,
Al Horford. Marvin Williams. Shelden Williams.
Three reasons why Atlanta doesn't need Tyrus Thomas. And if you take
away Claxton and add Duhon and Stuckey, you still have 5 point guards.
(did you forget about Lue, Law, and Johnson?)
Why would Atlanta give up their second best player to have 4 power
forwards and 5 point guards? It doesn't make sense. I'm not saying Tyrus
Thomas and Rodney Stuckey don't have value, they just don't have near
the value that Josh Smith has.
And by they way, if you pay off & waive someone with a multi-year
contract, it still counts against your salary cap. So if the Lakers trade for
Speedy Claxton and waive him, they'd have wasted an average of 5.5
million dollars each of the next three seasons.
Posted by: Long Time Laker Fan | November 01, 2007 at 07:52 PM
Repost from the last thread........
Rollo Tomasi,
"The plausible way is to keep Kobe and begin focusing on building a respectable roster around him. Get creative by packaging a deal that would include Bynum and Lamar and expiring contracts plus future draft picks for some serviceable 4s or 3s. Get rid of Bynum while his market value is still attractive. "
AN OPEN LETTER TO DR. JERRY BUSS
Dr. Buss,
Consider the suggestion of Rocky to use Magic Johnson as your problem solver and use the formula of Rollo Tomassi - BINGO, WE HAVE A TEAM. We don't want to part with Bynum or LO but they are the only players on top of Kobe who have values to other leagues.Kwame is the logical guy because of his expiring contract but there are no takers on a guy who can't catch the ball. Let's develop our young like Javaris, and this real ticket seller and soon the pet of every Laker kids on this young lad, Coby Karl. Please Dr., let us do the clean up from bottoms up. You can spot talents and differentiate them with raw talents and also separate the mediocres, why not do it? Why does it take you so long to put more values or more beef to your investment? Kobe is great, what he needs are great mentors and support group?
Here is my formula:
At the end of the season, don't renew PJ as the head coach, apply the Peter's Principle by demoting him to a GM position. With his aching hip, a romantic fling with Jeanie, but a great basketball mind - this is the reward for a Hall of Famer, the job of being the Coach Emeritus for the Lakers being the GM.
I have a question: Where are the golden years of the Lakers? My answer: The Showtime Era. This is like the movie Dirty Dozen, find them where they are right now? Byron Scott coaching the Hurricane Katrina players; Coop motivating the lady hoopsters, Big Game James doing analysis of the game, Stu Lantz, doing the color commentator, Kareem Abdul Jabbar on a dead end job in making Bynum a Lew Alcindor but couldn't find any similarities; Kurt Rambis, the hustling center relegated to motivating Kwame, Mihm , Vlad, Luke all developing but could not take-off to decent heights,; Brian Shaw, a motivator for the guards; Gail Goodrich, just a banner in the rafters, we're not using his talents; the Silk Jamaal, he just a mere spectator; Norm Nixon, the talented point guard who could compete to any trackster during his days is a mere analyst on the local networks and finally, what Rocky has suggested: Magic Johnson the quintessential assist man of the Lakers.
These are a talented bunch of professional Lakers. Nobody in NBA could argue that you have weaknesses on these legends. Use their basketball talents frozen at the back of their minds, get them active in making the Lakers go for another dynasty.
Like in any corporation, you have the qualified board members, I don't think any one of them would refuse to sit down on the board except Byron (due to his commitment to Katrina victims) and talk about the Lakers Of The Future. Collectively, with the participation of PJ, they will set standards in hiring, they will set the objectives, the strategies and tactics. There will be debates, airing of point of views like jurors but they could come up with solutions. They will find the Coach, perhaps within the boardroom itself to implement the tasks laid out and finally, determine the players all over the world who will be the Lakers Of The Future.
Reward Mitch Kupchak a golden handshake for being a loyal soldier, Let your son, Jim and daughter, Jeanie manage your stock placements, other businesses not necessarily connected with basketball ownership.
That's the whole formula, Dr. Buss leave the basketball part of the business to the professionals. This will be your lasting LEGACY to the Lakers fans.
Posted by: Edwin Gueco | November 01, 2007 at 07:56 PM
The best option for all parties is for Kobe to remain a Laker. At least until the trade deadline. The challenge is will Kobe decide to LEAD his team. He says he wants help, He has help. His name is BYNUM. Andrew can put up big numbers and be the second scoring option. Bynum can play post offense and PF defense to play at the same time with Kwame Brown.
Phil should play them together some time.
Phil isn't a good coach for a young team!
Posted by: Todd | November 01, 2007 at 08:01 PM
Mike, so you are not gonna eat your salad? What are you gonna do with it?
Posted by: HAB | November 01, 2007 at 08:24 PM
Jay Jay:
you're absolutely right.
GIVE KOBE A TEAM BUILT AROUND HIM AND LET'S SEE WHAT HE CAN DO.
SHAQ GOT THAT CHANCE, KOBE HASN'T. THOSE TEAMS WERE BUILT AROUND SHAQ.
I can't believe how some people just don't get that - "well, he had Shaq...blah blah blah" Okay, yes he had Shaq. The Shaq that decided to stop working out, decided to stop progressing as a player, a player that wanted to be a movie star and rapper before being a basketball player. When Shaq was focused, he was a MAJOR FORCE and couldn't be stopped, but he wasn't dialed in and he wasn't focused during the last seasons with the Lakers.
Oh well. I'm glad joey numbers didn't watch the last game where multiple Lakers missed shots and went into the infamous "player not named Kobe scoring drought." That'd be too convenient huh?
I'd like to see Shaq play with a bunch of nobodies and see what happens - oh wait, he is this season and look at the result, downed 11 by the Pistons.
Posted by: socalife | November 01, 2007 at 08:35 PM
My wife made a great sausage linguini tonight. Did the rest of you skip dinner or just not post it?
Mike's makin' me feel guilty about the workout. Oh well, tomorrow. Tonight, no pain...
no pain.
Posted by: Vman | November 01, 2007 at 08:50 PM
Long Time Laker Fan,
You forgot Zaza :)
J/K!
You talked about 4 power forwards (including Tyrus). Here's my contention: Marvin Williams is a small forward, not a PF. Shelden Williams is a great back-up, not starter material.
And Al Horford will prolly end up a Center - if LaMarcus Aldridge, Chris Bosh etc. can do it, so can he.
Horford/Pachulia
Thomas/SWilliams
MWilliams/Childress
That's a pretty powerful front-line.
As to why they would give up their second-best player:
This is the Hawks we are talking about! They chose to *not* give him an extension this year when his value is clearly on the rise - doesn't it make sense to lock him up now rather than later?
As for the point guards, Lue, Johnson and Duhon are all expiring contracts. So that leaves their backcourt as:
Joe Johnson, Acie Law and Rodney Stuckey (who can play both guard spots). Add Childress as a guard forward.
That's a solid young core, none of whom will require big money right away.
You can't tell me that is an appealing thought to the Hawks. And don't forget they get a do-over on Claxton's contract. If you add up the value of the expiring contracts on the Hawks roster - it's about 13M$ (including Wright). Dangle that around with Childress/Pachulia/Williams and you've got yourself an opportunity to get a decent player to team up with Johnson.
As for the Lakers, correct me if I'm wrong, but can't they just buy Claxton out without having his contract count against the cap in subsequent years? Isn't that what Portland did with Franchise? And what Minny will potentially do with Walker?
Posted by: hariyahu | November 01, 2007 at 08:56 PM
Todd,
You wrote this: The best option for all parties is for Kobe to remain a Laker. At least until the trade deadline. The challenge is will Kobe decide to LEAD his team. He says he wants help, He has help. His name is BYNUM. Andrew can put up big numbers and be the second scoring option. Bynum can play post offense and PF defense to play at the same time with Kwame Brown.
In case you weren't watching the first game, Bynum had 4 points in 20 minutes. He
was ineffective against Yao Ming or Mutumbo. You have *NEVER* seen him put up
reasonable numbers against an all-star center. He's had good numbers against
smaller players and mediocre players. He has not had good games against good
centers. According to Phil Jackson, his defense still sucks. That would be why
he's 3rd string behind Brown & Mihm.
The 2nd option is D-Fish. That's who he immediately went to in the final minutes
of the first game and D-Fish came thru. If Turiaf gets more playing time he'll
get more points because he's a much more athletic player than some of our
slow-footed guys. He meets Kobe at the basket and Kobe passes off to
him. Turiaf then gets the jam.
If you recorded the game, which I did and you watch what happens when Turiaf
comes out ... you'll see that after Turiaf comes out no one goes with Kobe to
the hole and so there's no one to pass off to.
It'll be interesting to watch against Phx. I think Amare is going school Bynum.
Turiaf should have another good night. We finally have a couple of pg's who
can slow Nash down. [ Fish & Farmar ] . Also watching J-Crit vs. Barbosa
will be fun. Grant Hill is going to school Mo Evans/Sasha though ...
Posted by: hobbitmage | November 01, 2007 at 09:06 PM
hariyahu,
>>>As for the Lakers, correct me if I'm wrong, but can't they just buy Claxton out
>>>without having his contract count against the cap in subsequent years? Isn't that
>>>what Portland did with Franchise? And what Minny will potentially do with Walker?
You're wrong. Francis counts for 17 million against Portland's cap space next season.
And if Minne buys out Walker's contract, it'll count against their cap space.
Posted by: Long Time Laker Fan | November 01, 2007 at 09:26 PM
There are reports that there was a fight in the Lakers practice today.
mike
Posted by: Michael C. Teniente | November 01, 2007 at 09:35 PM
"My wife made a great sausage linguini tonight. Did the rest of you skip dinner or just not post it?
Mike's makin' me feel guilty about the workout. Oh well, tomorrow. Tonight, no pain...
no pain."
I got lazy and didn't workout, either. LOL!
I caught last weeks episode of Cane that I missed because of the Lakers game. Suger is the new oil, you know.
All the episodes are on Cane CBS website. That's cool. I can watch shows I miss on the internet now. Isn't technology wonderful?
mike
Posted by: Michael Teniente | November 01, 2007 at 09:44 PM
The Rockets pounded Utah tonight. Good news, I think. Houston is the real deal, and I predicted several months ago they'd be one of the top three or four teams in the West this year. I'll stand by that.
And even though San Antonio is off to a 2-0 start, I don't think they'll last. I think you'll see them fade in the latter part of the season.
Posted by: Marty | November 01, 2007 at 10:00 PM
I dont know if u guys have read the new TMZ article regarding LO and the accident the other day, but here's the link and the victims sister posted (I'm assuming it's really her) in their comments stating LO stayed with her sister and looked after her until the ambulance arrived
http://www.tmz.com/2007/11/01/lamar-odom-crash-victim-suffering-leg-paralysis/#comments
Posted by: bobie | November 01, 2007 at 10:24 PM
Hobbitmage
Since you recorded the game you should go back and see who the 1st center off the bench is. Hint, its not Mihm. Mihm played 8 minutes of mostly power forward with Kwame.
Personally I do not feel andrew is quite ready for the 2nd option yet but he has looked good against quality big men before. He dropped 18 on the Suns last year, had 20 against KG and scored 14 against Duncan. Duncan in the post game interviews couldnt believe he was only 19. So I believe NEVR isnt quite correct. He will be a good contributer this year and if his defense improves he could get even more then the 19 minutes he had against the Rockets.
MH
Posted by: michael h | November 01, 2007 at 10:24 PM
Aloha Marty
I agree with you, the rockets are for real. Its funny, there was so much whining about our "poor" defense against the Rockets because we gave up 95 points. Utah gives up 106 at Utah! Yao plays only 27 minutes because of foul trouble and T-Mac dropps 47 on AK47! I guess we didnt do to badly after all.
MH
Posted by: michael h | November 01, 2007 at 10:32 PM
I hope Kobe stays!
May he shoot more brick shots forever & ever!
GO KOBE keep shooting Bwah ha ha ha ha ha !
I TOLD YOU SO!
Posted by: ogurat | November 01, 2007 at 10:34 PM
Lets see....
KOBE 100 points !
the rest of the lakers who cares!!!
Bwa ha ha ha ha ha
Posted by: ogurat | November 01, 2007 at 10:36 PM
I VOTE FOR KOBE TO HAVE HIS OWN BALL DURING THE GAME!
Nobody touches this ball but him and he can shoot as many bricks as he wants during the game!
GO KOBE... shoot... shoot... shoot... shoot!!
He he he !
I TOLD YOU SO!
Posted by: ogurat | November 01, 2007 at 10:39 PM
KOBE 13 for 32 shot attempts + numerous FREEthrows = 45 points
T-Mac 17 for 27 attempts = 47 points
ALL TOGETHER NOW - "SHOOT KOBE SHOOT"
Bwa ha ha ha !
I TOLD YOU SO!
Posted by: ogurat | November 01, 2007 at 11:01 PM
sasha was in the fight. i dont know who he was fighting against though....
Posted by: the WOLF | November 02, 2007 at 12:34 AM
Jay Jay
"joey numbers -
"win the game by himself" eh?
And what ball bobbling, poor shooting teammate would you prefer he pass to instead? Kwame? Luke? Turiaf? Bynum?"
Yes. I think he should pass the ball to Bynum, Turiaf, Odom, Luke, Fisher, Cook, Sasha, Radmanovich, Farmar, JCrit, & Mo. I mean Kobe is drawing double teams, why does he have to force the issue? Just pass to the open man, and they will hit the shot. They won't make 100% but they will shoot better than 13-32 (what Kobe shot). Kobe should not be shooting more than 15-20 shots per game. He should focus on D, and let the other guys get the glory(score). You know... like a team leader would do....
believe it or not, scoring is the easy part.
Posted by: joey numbers | November 02, 2007 at 12:34 AM
----Socalife----
I did watch the game... been watching every game since 1987. maybe you should watch them without the Kobe colored glasses... we lost the game by the way... So umm... just maybe Kobe lobbing up 30-40 shots is not a good idea? You do realize, that the rest of the Lakers as a team shot for a better percentage than Kobe?? Just barely... but they did.
I am not here to hate on Kobe, I just think he should use his unlimited energy to lead the team on the defensive end. I don't want him to facilitate, and thus I don't want him to touch the ball every time on offense. 15-20 shots per game should be enough for such a fine shooter, don't you think? Like i said before, scoring is the easy part...
SORRY FOR THE DOUBLE POST.
Posted by: joey numbers | November 02, 2007 at 12:48 AM
ograt=dedrater
Posted by: Jman449 | November 02, 2007 at 01:23 AM
Mamba,
You're not quittin' are you? You're a better man than that.
Sonnybelfast
Posted by: sonnybelfast | November 02, 2007 at 01:54 AM
KOBE 19 for 26 shot attempts= 52 points lakers 132-102win JAZZ last season!!!!!!!
have you ever think remember it ? let alone jazz played excellent then
kobe is best 4ever&ever
Posted by: cecilia | November 02, 2007 at 02:13 AM
I have an idea.
Let's start making some "determinations" about teams after they have played TWO games of an 82 regular season schedule.
After all, this is already about 2.4% of the season. We have seen just about everything that needs to be seen, right?
However, before everybody jumps on the Houston Rockets bandwagon because they beat Utah. Let's consider. It doesn't matter what an NBA team does in November that counts. Only in the postseason. Neither Yao or T-Mac have not won a SINGLE playoff series. Besides, can these two stay remotely healthy over the course of an 82 game schedule?
Let's see them win a playoff series.
Posted by: Samie | November 02, 2007 at 02:21 AM
Check this out of you want to know who is the Star of all stars in LA:
http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/story/7400108?CMP=OTC-K9B140813162&ATT=73
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Posted by: Mamba24 | November 02, 2007 at 05:01 AM
Michael H,
You wrote: Since you recorded the game you should go back and see who the 1st center off the bench is. Hint, its not Mihm. Mihm played 8 minutes of mostly power forward with Kwame.
My response: All right. I will. Thanks for the tip.
You also wrote: Personally I do not feel andrew is quite ready for the 2nd option yet but he has looked good against quality big men before. He dropped 18 on the Suns last year, had 20 against KG and scored 14 against Duncan. Duncan in the post game interviews couldnt believe he was only 19.
My response:
Do you remember when the 18 against phx was? 18 against Amare was suspect last
year because he was coming off of micro-fracture surgery and he was slow at the
beginning of the season. I could be wrong. I'll be happy to recant if he drops 18
against Amare tonight.
I don't recall the 20 against KG & the 14 against Duncan. I could be wrong. I'm happy
to be wrong. However, do you *really* think KG was able to play his best when he
was with the T-wolves? If he drops 20 against the Celtics then I will be impressed.
What do you think about the 4 pts. in 20 minutes against the Rockets?
Posted by: hobbitmage | November 02, 2007 at 05:45 AM
I'm so glad we have Fisher back in a Laker uniform. At least we have two warriors now...
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Posted by: Mamba24 | November 02, 2007 at 06:08 AM
hobbitmage,
Yes, Bynum only had 4 points. Did you know notice that Kobe didn't pass him the ball? Bynum wasn't ineffective against Yao or the Rockets. He was very effective. He has to be given touches in scoring position. Bynum is second option and he is better than Shaq at this point in Shaq's career.
BTW, did you see BYNUM in the pre-season? Much improved. He is on the Dwight Howard trajectory. He is improving faster than Jermaine O'Neal did and will be better than O'neal.
Did you see Miami? w/o Dwayne Wade the Heat are worse than the Lakers.
Lakers need to let Bynum and Farmar play major minutes and tolerate any mistakes. They are both going to be great players. You can not say they are busts because they haven't had consistent opportunity. The only bust on the Lakers ... is Vlade, and Brian Cook's defense. Don't start with Sasha, because he is only 22 and getting better. He hasn't had full opportunity either.
Phil Jackson has done a terrible job developing young talent.
Posted by: Todd | November 02, 2007 at 06:16 AM
MIKE T.,
"I caught last weeks episode of Cane that I missed because of the Lakers game. Suger is the new oil, you know."
Mike T as Jimmy Smits, the new hollywood idol. I like it. LOL!
Posted by: Mamba24 | November 02, 2007 at 07:30 AM
ogurat,
So smart why don't you put the rest of the story on the paper like, Walton 3 of 8, Bynum (billed a 2nd comming of greates centers of NBA) 2 of 6, Farmar 2 of 5, Evans 0 of 3 and Cook 0 of 2. How about that? Kobe % not looking to bad? How about I'll wait McGrady's off night and will present you with his %? Not to mention, playing with Yao, best center in NBA as of now, makes a little bit difference.
Posted by: LAL_Fan | November 02, 2007 at 07:51 AM
Sonny Belfast,
"Mamba, You're not quittin' are you? You're a better man than that. "
Sonny my friend I'm touched. Naw I'm not quitting just a temporary moment of
letting my Kobe side take control. LOL! Naw I got to be here to see your
reaction when we get Ron Ron. LOL! Thanks for your concern man!
Posted by: Mamba24 | November 02, 2007 at 08:05 AM
Mamba,
You are the DFish of the blog. And you go to your right as well as LO. Or was it the left? hehe..
>>>and Elgin Baylor had just retired and everyone thought
>>>the Lakers were through and could never defeat the Celtics. Then what
>>>the F*ck Happened! A bunch that few had hope would do anything went on the
>>>greatest Winning streak of all time...
...and the Championship..
WORD.
Posted by: HAB | November 02, 2007 at 08:28 AM
I think Kobe should reconsider the Deng veto.
Why?
Gordon can be a explosive scorer alongside Kobe playing as point guard.
Also.
You can bet Paxson is not Mitch.
He will add the pieces needed to make this new concept Bulls works.
Paxson is crafty in making trades and getting valuables pieces worthy of trade or
ready to contribute to the team.
Kobe:
Is worth it, doing business with a Buss almost too old to think clearly, with a ego 3 times bigger than yours, and to deal with his son, a stubborn guy who will destroy this franchise, before conceding he is wrong.
Posted by: jorema | November 02, 2007 at 08:33 AM
HAB,
"...and the Championship.. WORD."
That's what I'm talking bout. This sh*t drains your batteries if you
know what I mean. But now i'm recharged. Thanks Bro.
Posted by: Mamba24 | November 02, 2007 at 09:04 AM
Long Time Laker Fan,
Fair enough. So what does buying out a player get the team? Can they avoid paying the luxury tax?
BTW, you didn't comment on the Atlanta trade scenaro?
Posted by: hariyahu | November 02, 2007 at 10:30 AM