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Programming note: We'll be hosting a live chat at 1 p.m. to talk about media day, training camp and anything else.  To get in, click the link and go to "sports chat."

Kobe_media_day The Lakers kicked off the 2007-08 season Monday in El Segundo with media day ... and yes, everyone was present and accounted for, if not slightly (and harmlessly) delayed.  There were other dudes wandering around, getting their pictures taken, taping promos and interviews for TV and radio, delivering man hugs and slapping hands.  But Lord help any of them who found themselves between the media and Kobe when he finally emerged.  (Standing between a grizzly cub and her mom would have been safer.)  No. 24 says he's committed to winning in L.A., and that what happened this summer was the result of frustration.   There was never any doubt, Bryant said, that he'd report.   

In the end, it was much bluster and buildup over basically nothing, which is what people should have expected, though that doesn't mean all of the issues have been addressed.  Kobe (like fans and Phil alike) still wants improvements in the roster, but those worried he'll mope around this year shouldn't.  That's not how he operates.  As for the whole trade-demand thing, there wasn't any clarification (beyond talk of "frustration"), nor will there be any down the road.  But the question of whether he can win another title with the Lakers still looms large for Bryant. 

In the end, questions of "text or no text" or "happy or not happy" may be less important than "talent or no talent" and "injuries or no injuries."  Why?  Because the Lakers have bigger issues than Kobe, who has an almost supernatural ability to shut out what's going on on the periphery. 

Injuries are already an issue.  Lamar Odom likely won't play in the preseason as he continues to rehab from off-season left shoulder surgery.  And as L.O. pointed out, he needs a healthy left arm (perhaps more than anyone in the league).  Kwame Brown and Chris Mihm are recovering from surgeries, and Andrew Bynum has a minor leg strain.

Now if you want to see how the other half lived Monday ... 

 
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Laker roster - LO - Kwam = 7 win November

buckle up, this could get bumpy

Heisler says he knows this team can't win. We've not seen that Kobe before, and don't want to. Personally, I just never want to see the light of defiance fade from Kobe's eyes.

at least TJ Simmers has the guts to mention what, I think, a lot of people were thinking. I remember Kobe saying he had apologized to Mitch and spoken to Bynum about the video incident, then when challenged, Kobe said he had texted Bynum and then Bynum, who had no idea what the reporter was going after, innocently said he had had NO CONTACT with Kobe since the video incident and hoped everything was cool with Kobe...

LOL! What a circus it must be playing with this egotistical maniac! I mean... you would assume Phil, when he hears about this will step in and make sure the air is clear, and it's not one of those big things, Bynum appears ready to move on anyway but... why would Kobe pretend that he had cleared everything up with Bynum? It's just... weird! Kobe could have just come clean and said, no, we haven't talked but I plan to, blah, blah, blah, but instead... he makes something up?

Kobe was clearly in the wrong going around badmouthing people and then to get recorded on top of that, who knows how long this has been going on or who else Kobe badmouthed his teammates to, like... players on other teams? Probably. It sounds like he still hasn't learned his lesson... I mean... why would he make up that he and Bynum had cleared the air for the media? Weird... then Odom made the sly comment that he wouldn't say if there were chemistry issues, even if there were. LOL!

Whatever... it's Kobe, dude clearly has no people skills which is probably a part of what allows him to be so great on the court, but it's got to be a circus being on the same team as him.


AK/BK

Did either of you get the feeling that between the lines of the "good soldier" and "make these guys better" comments, that the "truce" came with a reaffirmation from the FO to conitnue to improve the roster NOW? ie mid season moves?

If not, hard to believe but Heisler is right and 24 is accepting his fate. He won't quit, but that has to play mind games in the 4th quarter of a back to back. You could feel it in his talking about the joy of "good team" USA.

Vman-

I took it more to mean, "I'm not talking about all that stuff now- whether I think the team is good enough or not, whether I'm still pissed they didn't make a move or not- I'm here, this is the situation how it's going to be."

I'm sure he's told them he wants the roster to improve, and I imagine they've told him they'll continue to try to do it. Basically, the realitites of the situation are what they are for Kobe. At least for this year, he really doesn't have much leverage, if he wanted to make a big stand or something.

But I wouldn't make too many inferences from what was said beyond what it seems to mean. Tea leaves can be hard to read anyway, and with anything involving Kobe, it always gets tougher.

BK

T.J. Simer is really pressing about Kobe. Who cares if the best player in the NBA did or did not call a 19 year old boy on the phone? The way the guy says that he has it recorded just reeks of "I'm out to get this guy."

I recorded it! I recorded it!

And? That makes you a journalist?

mike

I hate tea leaf reading, palm reading, body language reading.

I can't wait for the season to start, and I can watch some games.

But reading this blog will have to do until then. No offense, but I think you guys would rather watch games than write this blog, too.

Hey is the live chat on PST time. You all have to remember us EST folks over here.

Mike T, but... the weird part is there shouldn't be any story and I was asking the same question yesterday after seeing Bynum's comments and before TJ Simmers story came out.

Why does Kobe flat out lie that he has talked with Bynum? It's just... weird! Kobe could have come clean and said he was going to talk to Bynum but instead he makes up something?

Titles are won through big Centers around here, and you would think Kobe would be pleased with the workouts Bynum did over the summer but it doesn't seem like Kobe acknowledges this at all, calling Bynum a 17 year old... It's funny, Kobe seems to look at Bynum the way Shaq looked at him, thinking to himself, this is MY team, I don't acknowledge that you are growing up and I don't understand you at all. LOL!

I hope Bynum breaks out this year and Kobe either figures out he's got a young, top 5 Center to work with or Kobe bolts and we can start building around our new base of Bynum and hopefully Crittenton. Right now, it's a stalemate.

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BALLAD OF THE LAKERS Revision 2.0
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The doubters sat waiting for them to fail
Training camp came and they began to jell
L.O. looked like an allstar to be
Kobe appeared to be the new MVP
Bynum came out like the second coming of Shaq
Can I believe my eyes Sahsa is on the attack
The Lakers appeared strong and stood tall
And Kwame, yes Kwame caught every damn ball
Dfish kept all of the crew in line
Not one Laker was heard to whine.
The triangle my friend was a thjing of beauty
Even Scootie and Michael had to come to see
The season started and wouldn’t you know
In November The Lakers beat every damn foe.
December and January went the same way
The Lakers became the Team, teams were afraid to play
They held to under seventy the high flying Suns
That was the same game Kobe scored 101
The regular season ended and they were so great
They broke the Bulls record they were 74 and 8
Then came the Playoffs and I’m sure that you know
They ended up winning 16 in a row.
9Rings became 10 which made Phil the Best
For three years in a row The Lakers ruled the West
For each of those years Kobe won the MVP
Then Kobe retired and handed Bynum the Keys
But Bynum said NO! Kobe we both can drive
So when Kobe retired instead of 3 they won 5.
Which gave Kobe 8 NBA Titles and 5 MVPs
And Kobe not MJ became the greatest in NBA history

BK

" I wouldn't make too many inferences from what was said "

Right, but where's the fun in that?

Vman-

Excellent pont. It's kind of what greases the wheels around here (haha).

BK

Lots of out of the loop people here. In todays world texting is basically talking !

Hoping Andrew Bynum will become a top 5 center is like Britney Spear fans hoping she will clean up...i mean, it could happen but it's not happening anytime soon.

Wow Mamba... nice ballad. Dare to dream eh?

Mamba24-

"And Kwame, yes Kwame, caught every damn ball"

Dude, I totally howled. Best, line, ever. Props to you, man.

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BALLAD OF THE LAKERS
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The doubters sat waiting for them to fail
Training camp came and they began to jell
L.O. looked like an allstar to be
Kobe appeared to be the new MVP
Bynum came out like the second coming of Shaq
Can I believe my eyes Sahsa is on the attack
The Lakers appeared strong and stood tall
And Kwame, yes Kwame caught every damn ball
Dfish kept all of the crew in line
Not one Laker was heard to whine.
The triangle my friend was a thing of beauty
Even Scootie and Michael had to come to see
The season started and wouldn’t you know
In November The Lakers beat every damn foe.
December and January went the same way
The Lakers became the Team, teams were afraid to play
They held to under seventy the high flying Suns
That was the same game Kobe scored 101
The regular season ended and they were so great
They broke the Bulls record they were 74 and 8
Then came the Playoffs and I’m sure that you know
They ended up winning 16 in a row.
9Rings became 10 which made Phil the Best
For three years in a row The Lakers ruled the West
For each of those years Kobe won the MVP
Then Kobe retired and handed Bynum the Keys
But Bynum said NO! Kobe we both can drive
So when Kobe retired instead of 3 they won 5.
Which gave Kobe 8 NBA Titles and 5 MVPs
And Kobe not MJ became the greatest in NBA history
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They call him the Matrix this I will tell
Because he can play all 5 positions so well
He glides down the floor and his foes he does mock
Just waiting for Nash to feed him the rock.
He jams with authority and knocks down the J
And before you know it he’s headed the other way
His D is terrific he’ll take you to school
If you blink for a minute you’ll look like a fool
One day the mighty Matrix looked at the sky
And from his mouth came this plaintive cry
Nash is a great one Oh Lord this I see
But he never wins titles just phony MVP’s
Before I die and am laid down to rest
Dear Lord let me play with Kobe he’s the Best
And the Lord said young Shawn I will grant your Prayer
And in a twinkling of an eye a Sun was a Laker
Mitch cried for joy and Jim gave up the crack
Jerry retook his Office the Lakers were Back
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TaosHum,

>>at least TJ Simmers has the guts to mention what, I think, a lot of people
>>were thinking. I remember Kobe saying he had apologized to Mitch and
>>spoken to Bynum about the video incident, blah blah blah

No. Actually only people who are negatively obsessed with Kobe like you
and KL and Gunner and TJ Simers were interested in what TJ wrote in
his article. Most of us are more interested in basketball than soap operas.

Personally, I would have liked to hear things that actually mean something
to the upcoming season - like more details of injuries, or who's expected to
start, or what Farmar & Luke's offseason training involved. Or maybe
confirmations of trade discussions and their status - did Phoenix really
offer to swap Marion for Odom straight up? Did the Lakers really offer
Kwame and Radmanovic for Marion? What does Odom think of the
possibility of being traded to Phoenix?

Those things are important going forward. Who said what to whom (or
text messaged or didn't say or text messaged or whatever) regarding
something said in the media months ago will have negligible impact on
the upcoming season. I'd rather see articles by an actual SPORTS
reporter in the sports section, rather than a gossip reporter like TJ.

All of you Kobe - Haters...get out of here !!!!! Leave if you don't want to suport OUR team! I am a DIEHARD Laker fan and will ALWAYS support the team !! Kobe said what he felt..it's over with!! There is no lingering animosity!! If the team wins..you'll never hear of this again. So, why can't we just support THE TEAM ???!!!

Jeff LakerBruin,
My Thanks to you.

Mike T,

No comment on your boy getting arrested this past week for disorderly conduct? Sure would have liked to see him spending some time getting better at basketball rather than getting drunk and mixing it up with police officers.

TaosHum,

>>>Titles are won through big Centers around here, and you would think
>>>Kobe would be pleased with the workouts Bynum did over the summer
>>>but it doesn't seem like Kobe acknowledges this at all, calling Bynum
>>>a 17 year old...

So how do you know if Kobe is pleased about Bynum's workouts or not? The
press couldn't bother to ask him that because they were more obsessed with
whether he spoke to Bynum or didn't speak to Bynum or text messaged
Bynum or didn't text message Bynum.

If they'd spend less time obsessing about who passed love notes to whom,
maybe they could have asked more questions related to basketball, like
whether Kobe thought Bynum's summer workout plan would help him
this season.

Kobe's T

"No offense, but I think you guys would rather watch games than write this blog, too."

I agree absolutely, games are better. 3 years of blog tea leaf reading and Laker beat writers has taken it's toll on me. I also studied conspiracy theory from the master himself, Mike T. So we won't be hearin' from you 'till they jump it up next Tuesday? haha

Mamba24-

I think you're thinking of a different Jeff :) I'm not Lakerbruin, just Jeff :)

thanks "Donn" you're a real buzzkill...

LT Laker Fan, ??? you're telling me team chemistry has nothing to do with on court performance? If the team's star is making his teammates feel ill at ease and there's no trust off the court, why do you think there will suddenly be magic on the court? I don't care how young Bynum is, anybody with half a brain that gets thrown under the bus by the team's star player will always have it in the back of their mind that this guy is NOT in my corner. "Wary" is an interesting word, is it not?

I agree, I'd rather be talking about what they do on the court, but what other team has a star player that throws his teammates under the bus and then LIES that he has cleared the matter up? You don't think that is at least... odd?

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"I just let him know, 'Sorry how that came out,'" Bryant said. "He understood where I was coming from and the frustration that I feel because I want to win right now and that was that."

After Bryant spoke Bynum was asked again if he had communicated with Bryant. He said no.

Still, Bynum claimed there were no hard feelings, and he practically echoed Bryant's words.

"I thought it was kind of messed up, but he was a frustrated veteran," Bynum said. "He wants to win, and he had an opportunity to get a Hall of Fame point guard. I would have been upset too. The only thing it made me do was work harder this offseason."

Mike T.

Yes i agree that simers has a problem with kobe, but until 7-eleven can buy the lakers who really cares about want he thinks anyway.

Mamba24,
In the words of Hoochie Hilton "that was hot". I laughed my a** off.

Jeff,
"Mamba24-
I think you're thinking of a different Jeff :) I'm not Lakerbruin, just Jeff :)"
OK Then Just Jeff, My apologies and my thanks . LOL!

The Los Angeles Lakers have signed free agent forward Andre Patterson,

EastCoastJessie,
"In the words of Hoochie Hilton "that was hot". I laughed my a** off. "
LOL! Thanks ECJessie LOL!

"Mike T, but... the weird part is there shouldn't be any story and I was asking the same question yesterday after seeing Bynum's comments and before TJ Simmers story came out.

Why does Kobe flat out lie that he has talked with Bynum? It's just... weird! Kobe could have come clean and said he was going to talk to Bynum but instead he makes up something?"

Do you actually understand what you're saying? In other words Kobe Bryant should be thinking about Andrew Bynum? What has Bynum done in this league to merit Kobe, the best player in the league, having to justify himself over anything concerning Bynum?

When Bynum can defend the post then Kobe can explain his actions. But until Bynum can protect the rim he just an after thought. But according to you and T.J. Simers Kobe should get caught up in a Bryant/Bynum drama over a phone call, text message or whatever?

The Lakers have other issues to give a damn about a phone call or text message between the best player in the league and a player who T.J. Simer will be calling a stiff in his next article.

I mean have you read all of Phil Jackson's comments over the past few days?

Well, if you haven't, I'm going to write about it in the next Jackson Journal entry. It should be ready by tomorrow.

mike

Okay, here's a thought.

Amare's getting scoped this week. Raja Bell reportedly also got scoped this summer. Nash is getting
older and has had some back problems in the past... What if the Suns had injury problems of the
magnitude the Lakers did last season? I'll pose it this way:

If three Phoenix starters miss a combined 89 games and a couple of them are still recovering at
the end of the season, do you think the Lakers will win the Pacific division?

For example, if Amare misses 26 games and is barely back at the end of the season, Raja Bell
misses 41 games, and Shawn Marion misses 22 games with a badly sprained ankle, could the
Lakers beat them for the Pacific division title? How about in the playoffs?

Long Time Laker Fan ,

Your take on T.J. was right on brother!!!

He should be writing for TMZ.com

Mamba24 your poem was a gas
to any who did not like it you can kiss my white a$$

"I hope Bynum breaks out this year and Kobe either figures out he's got a young, top 5 Center to work with" Taoshum".

Hope. That's the key word. Hope.
We are hearing about this word 4 years in a row.

We should pray and hope for the better.

Hope. Hope.
Count me on in this bandwagon Mr Taoshum

Wait a minute! Is Mike T. actually defending Kobe?
Or is this one of his super sarcastic rants?

KOBE BRYANT IS A LIAR...

TJ SIMERS IS MY HERO...

http://www.latimes.com/sports/basketball/nba/lakers/la-sp-simers2oct02,1,1668725,full.column?coll=la-headlines-sports-nba-lakers

Said Simers: I tape-recorded the Kobester's answer, and put it in the newspaper the next day: "Yeah, I spoke to Andrew. We're fine."

This is the bull shizzle you get from kobe "the snake" bryant. It's always underhanded stuff from the shaq-era days. "he said, she said" bull shizzle.

This is our "shining star". Our so-called "franchise guy" carrying on the legacy of Shaq O'neal, Magic Johnson, James Worthy, Kareem and other laker greats before my time.

New Kobe = Old A-hole Kobe

Remember the bull shizzle with the Big Elbow (Malone)? Same bull shizzle with Bynum now. Why doesn't kobe just buy Bynum a $3 million dollar ring and call it even?

I hope kobe twist an ankle this year and doesn't play another game. Why does a true up-and-coming star like Grant Hill get hurt with a severe ankle injury and a loathesome player like kobe bryant stays healthy? it ain't fair.

Kobe bryant is nothing but a know-nothing jerkoff fool who's talented as hell, but will have no friends when he's done playing.

KLBeast has no sympathy for The Big Phony.

Laker win 47 games WITHOUT Bryant and 43 games WITH Bryant.

You heard it first here.

Why does B.J Slimers the douche bag automatically assume that Kobe lied? Maybe the kid is lying? Or is just being a kid and forgot.

But hey whatever all in a days work for Slimers the douche bag, slinging BS to get readers. THe funny part is he actually thinks hes funny.

KelvinfromCompton

"All of you Kobe - Haters...get out of here !!!!! Leave if you don't want to suport OUR team! I am a DIEHARD Laker fan and will ALWAYS support the team !! Kobe said what he felt..it's over with!! There is no lingering animosity!! If the team wins..you'll never hear of this again. So, why can't we just support THE TEAM ???!!!"

As the biggest kobe hater on the blog, i do support the team, but i don't support kobe "the snake" bryant.

Kobe is the most loathesome star in the NBA. The biggest faker there is and a liar also.

Nobody on the laker squad likes kobe and once kobe skills begin to diminish, kobe will be all by himself. kobe's got 3 more years to be King Kobra barring injuries and once that's over, nobody will care but Kobe Lovers.

Why don't you dig bigger hole to stick your head in. Better yet, ask kobe if you can put your head in his....

LOL! what is the symbol for throwing your hands in the air?

Mike T says:

"Do you actually understand what you're saying? In other words Kobe Bryant should be thinking about Andrew Bynum? What has Bynum done in this league to merit Kobe, the best player in the league, having to justify himself over anything concerning Bynum?

When Bynum can defend the post then Kobe can explain his actions. But until Bynum can protect the rim he just an after thought. But according to you and T.J. Simers Kobe should get caught up in a Bryant/Bynum drama over a phone call, text message or whatever?"
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Apparently you guys think this is perfectly normal behavior for the team's star to trash everybody, tell the media he talked personally with the involved players and cleared the air, meanwhile the players are scratching their heads when this is mentioned to them and...

???

None of this seems odd to any of you in the least? You just pan TJ Simmers for noticing it? If somebody mentions it on the message board, you don't even acknowledge it, you just start in on the person who mentions it?

Why do you guys think this team still has "stiffs" on it, 3 years later? NOBODY is rushing to come here, why is that? It was still "The Lakers" after Shaq left only Kobe doesn't do any recruiting unless it's some max contract guy so what changed? People aren't rushing to join Kobe and crap like this, bashing somebody publicly and then taking the "it's just Kobe being Kobe" path that inevitably follows is noticed around the league. Players do talk, and I don't see anybody exactly rushing to be here. We could easily do a salary dump and pick up Chris Webber but Web's doesn't appear to have any thoughts about coming out here. WHY IS THAT? Why can't we recruit any role players?

Makes you wonder how much of this is the front office and how much of it is Kobe's image problems. Would you want to be in this situation as an NBA player? Are we building something here or not? Only Kobe can answer that question anymore.


Ahhhh KL.... I knew you'd set me straight.

BrandonC
"Mamba24 your poem was a gas
to any who did not like it you can kiss my white a$$"

Whoooooa there Brandon C. Thanks and rap on.

"Why do you guys think this team still has "stiffs" on it, 3 years later? NOBODY is rushing to come here, why is that?"

Garnett wanted to come. JO wanted to come. Marion wants to come. Do you think that to play of PJ or with Kobe Bryant? They all said it was because of Kobe.

mike

Donn sez:
"Hoping Andrew Bynum will become a top 5 center is like Britney Spear fans hoping she will clean up...i mean, it could happen but it's not happening anytime soon. "

never a truer word spoken today. actually i'm more confident in mihm showing us something rather than bynum, God bless his little heart... i just can't look at the kid and say "now there's another hakeem oljuwon if i've ever seen one!"

mamba, ya gotta retire that busted "make a move before training camp" bandwagon.


Michael T.: you said . . .

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T.J. Simer is really pressing about Kobe. Who cares if the best player in the NBA did or did not call a 19 year old boy on the phone?
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If that "19-year old boy" is the Lakers' future cornerstone and can be the difference between the Lakers' winning 40 games or 50 games, Laker fans better darn WELL care.

If that "`19-year old boy" gpes into the tank because his team captain dogs him out for the world to see and his coach takes great pains to point out that he's lazy and hasn't done anything yet, then he -- and the millions of dollars and wasted opportunities to use him as a trading chip -- disappear.

So we Laker fans all better darn well care what's going on in this guy's head; almost as much as we care about Kobe's state of mind.

The cavalry isn't on the way. At least, not yet.

PEACE,
"So we Laker fans all better darn well care what's going on in this guy's head;

Well said Peace.

Like I said before, until Bynum can defend the post he isn't going to be the "cornerstone" of any team. Until he can defend the post...who cares?

mike

Somonesaid.

If they'd spend less time obsessing about who passed love notes to whom,
maybe they could have asked more questions related to basketball, like
whether Kobe thought Bynum's summer workout plan would help him
this season.


Id like to know if and when Kobe and Bynum worked out this summer, and how Kobe plans to help Bynum grow as a player.

Clearly they cant get their messages straight on if or when they talked or chated (not shocking) since they never spoke until training camp.

TJ is on a mission and Kobe just gave him more ammunition with his lies/decipt. Nice leader!

Mike- who on the lakers can defend the post? Before you say Kwame let me take a deep breath so I dont faint. Lamar is their best post defender in my opinion because of his long arms.

TaosHum,

>>>LT Laker Fan, ??? you're telling me team chemistry has nothing to do with on court
>>>performance?

No. But if TJ wants to know about team chemistry, then why didn't he spend his precious
few questions with Kobe and Bynum asking directly about team chemistry. Do you resent
Kobe? Do you respect Bynum? Do you respect Kobe? Do you think Bynum resents your
statements? Will it affect your play? Whether or not Kobe apologized to Bynum may be
irrelevant. Bynum already stated that he understands and more or less said that he would
trade himself for Jason Kidd if he were in Kobe's position as well. That should be enough to
convey that the apology thing is immaterial.

If I were allowed to ask Kobe one question right now, I would probably ask him something like,
"Are you planning on dedicating more of your energy to defense with the team, as you did
with team USA?". That's a pertinent question that will impact how the Lakers play this season,
and not one of the reporters asked it. You (or TJ Simers) are so obsessed with trying to find any
tidbit to make Kobe look bad, that you would waste it on a question like, "Why did you lie about
talking or text messaging to apologize to Andrew Bynum?".

>>>If the team's star is making his teammates feel ill at ease and there's no trust off the court,
>>>why do you think there will suddenly be magic on the court? I don't care how young Bynum
>>>is, anybody with half a brain that gets thrown under the bus by the team's star player will
>>>always have it in the back of their mind that this guy is NOT in my corner. "Wary" is an
>>>interesting word, is it not?

First of all, he didn't get thrown UNDER any bus - he got thrown ON the bus to New Jersey.
Kobe didn't say that Bynum sucks or Bynum will never be a good NBA player, he said that the
team should have traded Bynum for Jason Kidd. When asked about it, BYNUM AGREED.
Second, what makes you feel that Bynum or any other Laker is ill at ease. When asked about
it EVERY ONE of them basically said that they understand his frustration and what he said
doesn't bother them. It's only in the minds of you and KL and TJ Simers and Gunner that all
of the other Lakers are now wary of Kobe. In the real world, they're all fine and they've said
so.

>>>I agree, I'd rather be talking about what they do on the court, but what other team has a
>>>star player that throws his teammates under the bus and then LIES that he has cleared
>>>the matter up? You don't think that is at least... odd?

Bynum has already answered several questions directly about this. He said that he understood
Kobe's frustration, and he took his words as motivation to train harder. If you're so obsessed
with LYING and you ASSUME that Bynum really has a problem with Kobe, then why aren't
you obsessing over why Bynum is lying when he says everything is OK? Why isn't TJ spending
the whole media session and his whole article about it trying to trick Bynum into somehow revealing that he's really pissed off at Kobe?

I'll tell you why, because he (like you) doesn't care who's telling the truth and who's lying,
he only cares about trying to make Kobe look bad. Because Kobe isthe big star, so any news
about him (especially bad news) will get read by more people than 10 stories about Bynum or Odom or Farmar.

Let me ask you this, which will have more impact on the coming season: whether Kobe dedicates
himself more to defense? or whether Kobe apologized to Bynum or not? And make your answer
given that Bynum has already said what he's said about it.

yeah and they're all MAX CONTRACT PLAYERS!!!! and realistically, they all involve moving Odom. There's Kobe on media day, "hey Lamar, how's it going?" "how do you think it's going Jacka--!" LOL!

I mean, I know everybody wants to live in lala land and pretend it's like the days of old with Shaq but it's not, you have to build around your max contract guy with role players and guys who produce MORE than what they are costing salary capwise: see hopefully, Andrew Bynum - who everybody is in such a hurry to dump for some MAX CONTRACT GUY who will play with WHO exactly at the other positions because that's all we can afford? Hey, is Devean George still available?

People want to move Odom to SF? Well, Chris Webber is sitting out there and he ain't coming and he ain't got no interest in coming. Why is that? I guess he and Kobe ain't buds? LOL! This is ridiculous! Guys want to go to San Antonio why is that? Does the team atmosphere have anything to do with it?

I guess not, according to you guys... it's all the front office's fault... Kobe doesn't have to recruit or support his teammates, especially the younger ones because he's such a great player. LOL! That's classic!


KL,

>>>I hope kobe twist an ankle this year and doesn't play another game. Why does a true up-and-coming star
>>>like Grant Hill get hurt with a severe ankle injury and a loathesome player like kobe bryant stays healthy?
>>>it ain't fair.

That's right. Let it all out, hater. It'll make you feel better to vent.

If you guys are wondering about Kobe's coded language, let me interpret it for you. It's all based on hidden references to first names. Take this, for instance:

"We're gonna be asked to make some sacrifices, in terms of getting into the gym early, staying, working hard and doing the extra things to be a true competitor in this league, particularly in the Western Conference. We have an uphill battle, but the only thing you can do is walk that hill."

"Getting into the Jim early" indicates that Kobe's goal is to get Jim Buss thrown out even before the season starts. He alluded to that elsewhere when he talked about Jerry Buss getting back in the loop (at the risk of driving the wrong way around it).

"particularly in the West-ern Conference" reiterates his desire to bring Jerry West back to replace Mitch K. How obvious can you get?

Finally "the only thing you can do is walk that hill" is a veiled reference to the Phoenix Suns who improved by adding Grant Hill, whereas the Lakers didn't pick up any big names. He's expressing his disgust at the FO not keeping up with the perennial nemesis, the Suns.

That was just one brief passage of the interview. Imagine what could be decoded in the rest of it.

KL,

in one post:

>>>I hope kobe twist an ankle this year and doesn't play another game.

in another:

>>>As the biggest kobe hater on the blog, i do support the team, but i don't support kobe "the snake" bryant.

Regardless of your ridiculous statement that the Lakers would win more games without Kobe than
with him, you are a liar. If you were a Laker fan, you wouldn't want the best player on the team injured
for a year. If you were a Laker fan and truly don't want Kobe playing, you would be proposing every
possible trade in the book for him. You would be whining and moaning and screaming for the Lakers
to trade Kobe. Instead, you want the team to fail so you can blame it on Kobe.

LOOK AT ME. I'M JUST LIKE TJ SIMERS. I'M A JERNALIZT. I CALLED SOMEONE A LIAR.

TaosHum,

>>>We could easily do a salary dump and pick up Chris Webber

The Lakers currently have less than 1 million left of the MLE. Chris Webber is expecting to be
paid more than that. The Lakers would need to clear something like 15 to 17 million in salaries off their
books to free up any cap space to get Webber. Whom do you propose they should "easily dump" to get
15 to 17 million free?

TaosHum,

>>>Chris Webber is sitting out there and he ain't coming and he ain't got no interest in coming. Why is that?

Let me guess. Because the Lakers FO doesn't want him? Have you been talking to the Lakers FO or
to Kobe and you have a statement from them that they want Chris Webber on the team? If not, then
you're just fabricating your own little fantasy world where everyone hates Kobe.

>>>This is ridiculous! Guys want to go to San Antonio why is that?

So who wants to go to San Antonio? Point me to two articles where players were interviewed this summer
and said they hoped to play for San Antonio. I've already provided links to two or three interviews from this
summer where players said they would love to come and play for the Lakers with Kobe. So here's the score:

Want to play with Kobe & the Lakers: 3
Want to play with Duncan & San Antonio: 0

Can't find any interviews where players state they want to play for San Antonio?

TAOS HUM IS A LIAR! LOOKEE LOOKEE. I'M A JERNILUST LIKE TEEJAY CUZ I CAN CALL
SOMEONE A LIAR!

KL,

>>>KOBE BRYANT IS A LIAR...

No KL, he's just like you. It's not lying. It's just part of his shtick. :-)

TJ SIMERS IS MY HERO...

Wow, what a statement. A fat, bitter, sarcastic loser is your hero. Makes a lot of sense, considering the source.

Oh yeah, the "shizzle" remarks are pure comedy gold. Especially if this were 1996. You might want to update your routine, at lest into the new century.

First off, Michael Jordan bashed the living hell out of Kwame Brown, the only thing that does not make us consider Bynum a bust is that Bynum was picked 10 while Kwame was picked no. 1 and I still think its a bit too early to call kwame a full fledged bust.

Many of you are smashing Kobe but you have no idea what it is like until you have stepped in his shoes. as for T.J Simmers, he is no real journalist and lucky for him he's not a sports journalist in an African nation because the witch hunts that he instigates would be the cause of his death...thank God for USA and I dare any of you to pass a negative remark about my African anology so I can label you as a ignorant prejudice a**. Talking like Kobe is the worst out there, no one knocks Jordan for wanting to be loved by fans so much yet he kept his sneaker prices at 140 plus dollars, making hard for the bulk of his fans....the poor people sacrifice a utility bill just to get a pair, and he is dubbed the Lord of Basketball. Who gives a crap about image, Kobe is one of the few in this society not to let the public eye of him control who he is and that is what you call being your own person. He never begged you to like him in the first place, And people still call him an egoist...name one thing he has done to symbolize egoism and I'll fire right back with a counterstatement. I'm sorry for the guy, I really am because even if he wins ten more titles and then retire people are still gonna hate him because he's a private guy who relishes competing so much his life revolves around the court. He doesn't care about sitting down and granting interviews with people who care about what he is like off the court instead of on the court. If you want to go find all that stuff out then T.J Simmers and the rest of you Kobe-bashing haters should go watch Vince McMahon and his gang of men in tights on Monday Night Raw.

Its crap like this why sports, specifically Basketball is loosing its traction among Americans, check the NBA Finals rating since 2005...ironically the year before the Lakers were last in it. The Lakers don't need Shaq to bring a title back, they need the right mindset of team concept which I admit starts with Kobe since he's the leader. The thing I've always had a problem with was the beginning of Kobe being called Selfish...I've watched as much games as I can since him being drafted and the guy does pass, but remember you don't get an assist if you miss or do something stupid with the ball after its passed. When stuff like that happen, how do you expect your star player to trust you so easily. Most of you who talk like T.J Simmers were probably the bench warmers during pickup or high school games and like T.J grew up with the emotion and hatred for the players like Kobe...no different than Hitler's brewing hatred for the Jews since childhood. You hate a player that acts on his greatness because he knows he is great, you expect him to go out there and play it off as if he doesn't have the God Given talent. That in itself would be a sin not to admit your talents. Most of you go to Church or Mosques or Synagogues or another place of worship. That pastor or high figure wasn't entirely born that way, it took him believing he was sent here to lead people to God. So every time you attend your religious meeting and that person stand there preaching to you, it takes some sort of self-acknowledgment that he is the chosen one to help point you into the right direction, he was born in sin and not perfect but yet you look up to him....that is a level of egoism believe it or not. Therefore....stop contradicting yourselves.

EastCoastJessie

"Ahhhh KL.... I knew you'd set me straight."

we set each other straight bro.

Go Angles! I say it's going to be 3-1 for either team, i'm on the fense. If Angles lose 2 at Boston, it's all over.

Isn't it obvious? First we had Watergate, breaking into the opponent's offices to steal things or mess things up. Then we had Monicagate, where the press started nosing into something that was nobody's business but left a stain on a blue dress. No we have Textgate, where Simers is vying to be the Bob Woodward and Carl Bernstein of the 21st century. Simers is a journalist. He wants to make his mark. As usual, his investigative reporting has unearthed the biggest story of the century. And of course Bynum is now his Deep Throat (or Deep Socks).

But as I said earlier, Kobe's language is always coded with names. That's what led Simers astray. Kobe was really saying he Texed Andrew (i.e. pushed him into training harder for Tex's triangle). And it worked!

long time

what you're not grasping from Tao is that team chemistry may not matter if you have Shaq, Horry, Fox and Fisher, but when it's Bynum, Walton, Brown, it's a different story.

Plus this thing with kobe apologizing or not apologizing to Bynum is not the point. Kobe's arrogance is again demonstrated by his actions (or inactions) towards his teammates. Nobody's going to stick up for kobe, they will only tolerate him.

Read carefully the message within the statements from Odom and Bynum and i read that these guys only tolerate kobe's a-holeness.

I'll say again, kobe ain't no leader and ain't no #1 guy. Kobe is a super-duper-uber #2 guy. Period, end of story.

KOBE BRYANT WILL NOT LEAD ANY TEAM TO A CHAMPIONSHIP AS THE #1 GUY.

KOBE IS TOO MUCH OF A LIAR AND A FAKER.

KLBEAST,
"I hope kobe twist an ankle this year and doesn't play another game. Why does a true up-and-coming star like Grant Hill get hurt with a severe ankle injury and a loathesome player like kobe bryant stays healthy? it ain't fair."

I'M PREDICTING THE LAKERS WILL PLAY BAD AND THEN ONCE KOBIATCH GETS HURT THIS YEAR, THE TEAM WILL COME TOGETHER AND REALIZE THEY DON'T NEED HIM.

"KOBE BRYANT WILL NOT LEAD ANY TEAM TO A CHAMPIONSHIP AS THE #1 GUY. "

AND KOBIATCH AINT NO MICHAEL JORDAN! PERIOD!

Jman449

"Oh yeah, the "shizzle" remarks are pure comedy gold. Especially if this were 1996. You might want to update your routine, at lest into the new century."

i'm not allowed to use the "S" word even it's substitued with "$".

How about i use "feces", "fecal matter", "crap", "poop", "bowl movement", "dung", "defecate"?

Hey, TJ is only asking question that fans want to know. Why don't you tell me why kobe always does underhanded stuff? This stuff (not shizzle) has been going on since the Shaq-era. This "crap" is precicely why nobody outside of a few would consider playing with kobe bryant. Nobody wants to put up with the Bull-crap; especially veteran players. The same veteran players kobe covets.

It's a crappy situation if you ask me.

long time

"Regardless of your ridiculous statement that the Lakers would win more games without Kobe than with him, you are a liar. If you were a Laker fan, you wouldn't want the best player on the team injured for a year."

ever heard of the "less is more" concept? My kobe injury is not intended for kobe to be hurt forever, just enough to realize that he can't do it all.

When one acknowledges that one can't do it call, one will be more open to appreaciating others.

Kobe is way passed the line between confidence and arrogance. Kobe hasn't changed a bit. Still as arrogant as ever and still dissing his teammates.

What makes you think that kobe will appreciate any player....let me repeat...any player if kobe didn't appreciate playing alongside shaq?

3 years of losing and kobe hasn't learned a damn thing. you know why? cuz kobe doesn't point to himself as the problem. it's always someone else.

"less is more"

gunner

"I'M PREDICTING THE LAKERS WILL PLAY BAD AND THEN ONCE KOBIATCH GETS HURT THIS YEAR, THE TEAM WILL COME TOGETHER AND REALIZE THEY DON'T NEED HIM."

26-13 last year when kobe was hurt in the beginning of the season.

but i knew, the "ballhog" kobe will come back; especially when all of the attention was on Melo and AI being #1 and #2 in scoring respectively.

DAMIEN WILKINS TO KOBE: "F-U"

Damien Wilkins switched jersey numbers from 12 to 21 in honor of his father and uncle, Gerald and Dominique Wilkins.

"I tried to get it last year from Danny [Fortson] and I told him he should give it to me because he wasn't using it," Wilkins said. Fortson is no longer with the team, opening up the digits. Wilkins' role with the team has yet to be determined, but he's not likely to crack the starting five initially.

Source: Seattle Times

KOBIATCH, WHY DON'T YOU DO US A FAVOR AND SWITCH YOUR JERSEY TO 21 SINCE YOU'RE NOTHING BUT A SOUP UP DOMINIQUE WILKINS.

KLBeast,

Your the shizzle homie. I believe snoop has used that term til his last album produced by the neptunes in 2004?

Peace

Charles

KLBEAST,
"but i knew, the "ballhog" kobe will come back; especially when all of the attention was on Melo and AI being #1 and #2 in scoring respectively."

I AGREE WITH YOU. KOBIATCH TALKING ALL THIS STUFF ABOUT THE TEAM KNOWS THAT I CAN'T CARRY THEM THIS YEAR. HELL, THE TEAM KNEW THAT, THE PAST 3 YEARS! ANYTIME, HE SEES AI OR MELO GETTING GLORY FOR SCORING A BUNCH OF POINTS, HE STARTS TO DEVIATE FROM THE SYSTEM. AND HE'LL DO IT AGAIN THIS YEAR AND ACT LIKE HE NEEDS HELP.

KOBIATCH YOU WANT TO PROVE A POINT. WHY NOT LET THE OFFENSE START OUT THROUGH THE REST OF THE TEAM FOR THE FIRST 15 SECONDS OF THE SHOT CLOCK, THEN YOU'LL SEE WHAT HELP YOU CAN GET. BUT WE KNOW THAT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. MATTER FACT, WHY DON'T YOU GO PUT YOUR HEAD IN A MUDHOLE.

CHRIS WEBBER TO KOBE: "F-U"

Chris Webber says he will not play in Greece this year and will only re-sign with the Pistons, if he plays at all.

"I'm not going to Greece," Webber said. "It's no disrespect to [Olympiacos], but I can't do that. I'm an NBA guy. I don't want to just chase money. I want to make sure I respect the game." Webber went on to say that if he plays, it will be in Detroit, unless..."If I'm going to play, I'm only going to play as a Piston...unless something crazy happens." He will likely play this year, but may not sign until the season is underway.

Source: ESPN.com

Rhon salmon...Africa is a continent, not a nation, so if you really want to know who's ignorant a$$, look in the mirror...

I think a lot of people here are reacting to the Kobe comment the same way Patriots fans are reacting to the videotaping thing. I'd love to have Bynum clarify his statement, because if Kobe lied about that, I'd find that pretty curious...there's no real reason to. Curious.

Hey K Brothers, can you sort this out? And do you guys have access to actual practice time?

charles

"Your the shizzle homie. I believe snoop has used that term til his last album produced by the neptunes in 2004?"

Snoop's the man. Especially in those "girls gone wild" videos. I....um....my friend [wink wink] has every volume. Ain't nothing but a "G" thing eh?

I know, we're a buch of old fools stuck in the 90s.

BTW, do you think TextmessageGate is a whole lot to do about nothing? Do you you think it's the media trying to stir up a "feud"? it wouldn't surprise me.

Shaq was probably lying when he said one time during the championship years that Kobe called him late at night because he couldn't sleep thinking about the next playoff game and Shaq was taking a "dump".. when told about Shaq's story, Kobe had the sense enough to go along with it even though I remember how awkward it was then when he was posed that question. These guys were good enough to be "fakes".. of course, it all blew up at the end.. so, it would do good to be honest, in the long run.

Not to say this has anything to do with Kobe and Bynum.. but, that incident just came to mind when reading this.

Kobe has some explaining to do.. let's see what he says today.. I'm sure T.J. or someone else will ask again.

As for Bynum and Kobe...

I do think it's a little weird that Bynum says Kobe didn't contact him this summer. As far as he knows, maybe Kobe didn't? Maybe Bynum was busy getting text messages from honeys on myspace and missed Kobe's message. Kobe could have contacted Bynum and Bynum could still be unaware of it. Kobe could be lying which would be weird since he doesn't seem like that big of a liar, but to assume it probably requires a 7 on the 1-10 scale of Kobe haterism.

At least publicly, it's a moot point. Kobe and Bynum seem cool with each other. It's not surprising. Kobe's the alpha alpha and wants to just get along and play basketball after the offseason's embarrassing outbursts. Bynum seems like a pretty mellow kid that isn't dumb enough to create a huge issue with the team's top player. Whatever private animosity may have existed, it appears they've both largely moved past it and just want to do their jobs.

As for Bynum defending the post, I think he's not hopeless. If you have a high energy guy like Turiaf or a solid post on ball defender like Kwame, Bynum can float around for some double teams and do what he does best, shot block. Last season, he was, based on 40 minutes of play, one of the top 10, maybe top 5 shot blockers in the league. His extreme length and good timing allowed him to block 2-3 shots in just about every game he got some minutes. He can learn some decent on ball defense, but it might not happen next season. A combination of Kwame's on body post defense and Bynum's good shot-blocking help defense could be very useful when the Lakers need a stop.

As for free agents, where do people want to go? Pretty much someplace where they might get a championship. Reggie Miller was considering going to the Celtics. Payton and Malone came to LA. The Payton went to Miami. Webber went to the Pistons. Grant Hill went to the Suns. I'm sure I could come up with numerous other examples, but I think you guys get the point.

As for Webber, I'm pretty sure he got mostly bought out of his contract with the Sixers. No team would have to pay that much for him since he's still making 19M from Phillie. http://www.hoopshype.com/salaries.htm . Teams can sign him for a veteran's mimimum (plus any amount of his contract buyout that Phillie isn't paying past 19M which probably isn't much). Webber seems a little indecisive whether he even wants to play and teams don't seem particularly interested in him.

mamba24, can you add me to the no faith in the front office bandwagon pls? Thanks.

KLBeast,

That Golden Era of Hip-hop is irreplaceable. I now know why people get stuck in there era of music and date their musical tastes.

(Just so you know, I am a former Shaq Lover - now Front office hater and now - middle of the road Kobe fan for his work ethic but still a PJ soldier. Definitely now think Shaq and Kobe fell into this ME ME ME culture of spoiled athletes.)

The Text messaging gate issue is something that can stray to both extreme ends. Honestly, I maybe very wrong; but I feel the intuitive fans pick up on that issue of Andrew's response that Kobe has never contacted him (text or voice). I definitely feel that like most privilleged kids, they will do what they want, and say what they want for the flash in front of the camera.
So to answer your question bro, the no-contact of Kobe (to AB) is a character under pinning of him OFF THE COURT. On the court he is exciting and what we pay to watch. So I share your fire about Kobe's off the court character/personality. To remedy that, I just picture the Lakers and think Purple and Gold and it calms me down. I respect your fire though man. Sorry for the long delay and response.

Peace!

Charles

Charles,

I'll be honest with you on Kobe. Had we continued to compete for titles, i wouldn't have cared that shaq left for whatever reason. Shaq was getting old anyway. Winning cures all sins in professional sports. Let's see how this year goes.

I, like you, am a fan of old-school hip hop. It all stared with Run DMC for me. Then, NWA, then 2-Life-Crew, then Cube and the other NWA clan.

KLGunner

"KOBE BRYANT WILL NOT LEAD ANY TEAM TO A CHAMPIONSHIP AS THE #1 GUY. "

AND KOBIATCH AINT NO MICHAEL JORDAN! PERIOD!

You're right. Jordan had a front office that had enough sense to surround Jordan with teammates that knew how to play the game, AND had the confidence to do so. You don't think you're the first KL/Gunner that's ever been out there? Imagine how many of YOU there were when Jordan lost to the Pistons in the playoffs 3 years in a row with more talent surrounding him than Kobe has now. It took Jordan nearly 4 years to figure out how to beat the Bad Boys, but because he was a media darling and wasn't accused of raping a white woman, he got a semi-pass from his "ballhogging ways" and "selfishness cancer" tactics. I'm sure someone was calling him Air JorBIATCH when he wasn't winning titles.
Dominique Wilkins had a decent team around him in the mid to late 80's, but couldn't get past Boston. Then injuries did him in, and management traded him away to the Clippers after he was past his prime. If anyone in the league is Dominique, it's Vince Carter, not Kobe.
Now in terms of this Lakers team, this team is like a Forrest Gump box of chocolates: You never know what you gonna get.
Can the Lakers stay afloat in the beginning of the year with all of the injuries?
Will Kobe develop more trust in his teammates?
Will the rest of the team earn his trust like the Cavs did for Lebron?
Remember, trust is not given unilaterally. If you think that it should be, then you're a contributing reason to why the NBA has become so soft lately. PERIOD.

Michael A---go read my statement again, notice that I said African Nation...NATION....in other words (less than elementary) a NATION in the Continent of Africa. Next time you try to call someone ignorant, think of your first name and how stupid you should feel trying to insult me when I used the politically correct term instead of calling a continent a country, much like you implied I did....Ignoramus....I knew one of you would have taken the bait....Dumba**! And as for the Patriots, hmm lets see....they got caught four weeks ago and they are still 4-0. When a thief gets caught he never usually robs the same bank...(except for the movies).

And really did you even read my piece and you had the nerve to try and exploit me? Who cares if he lied, really...his stats don't lie. Let that be an issue between him and his teammates, his family, and his God. It is really none of our business. You haters act like the guy comes home to you every night...he don't owe you or TJ Simmers an explanation. Besides, using African Nations was a nice example, a place where Mr Simmers would definitely not want to be doing his nonsense people call journalism would be Columbia (that is a nation in South America for you the Geographically-deprived Michael)...now you go ahead and dis Columbia, must I remind you to be on your best behavior now boy. Now I dare you to come back and say something stupid Michael because Independence Day won't have s*** on me with the fireworks I'll be lobbing your way....

P.S--I insist you read what I said slowly like they taught you during your short-bus years it said AFRICAN NATION...you know, Zimbabwe, South Africa, Congo, Nigeria, Sudan, Egypt, Liberia, Ghana, Ivory Coast, Mozambique, Rwanda, Uganda, Morroco, Tazania...need me to continue....you probably didn't know those were African Countries yourself....Ignoramus.

Rhon,
"definitely not want to be doing his nonsense people call journalism would be Columbia (that is a nation in South America for you the Geographically-deprived Michael)..."

Before you start insulting people re their knowledge of geography, you might want to look in the mirror. Colombia is a country in South America. Columbia is the district where our federal government is located.

ATL Laker fan

“You're right. Jordan had a front office that had enough sense to surround Jordan with teammates that knew how to play the game, AND had the confidence to do so”

difference is Jordan didn’t chase away his best player. difference is Jordan didn’t publicly badmouth his teammates repeatedly. difference is Jordan is a “man” and not a sissy boy hiding behind puclic mouthpieces. difference is Kobe ain’t not Jordan. period, end of story.

“took Jordan nearly 4 years to figure out how to beat the Bad Boys, but because he was a media darling and wasn't accused of raping a white woman, he got a semi-pass from his "ballhogging ways" and "selfishness cancer" tactics. I'm sure someone was calling him Air JorBIATCH when he wasn't winning titles.”

Kobe’s on his 4th year and what’s his excuse? I know, bad teammates, bad GM, bad owner, bad fans, bad arena, bad….BTW, i suppose kobe was unsure what "no" meant? kind of like kobe having a made-up conversation with Bynum?

What you don’t seem to get is that you can be an a-hole only if you deliver the goods. kobe ain’t deliver nothing. don’t give me this “it was shaq and kobe’s team”. I was shaq’s team period, end of story. it started becoming kobe’s team, but kobe couldn’t wait his turn. kobe didn’t want to do it with shaq or anybody else from the laker dynasty. kobe wanted to create his own dynasty and all we get it the Circus coming to town from November to June.

“Then injuries did him in, and management traded him away to the Clippers after he was past his prime. If anyone in the league is Dominique, it's Vince Carter, not Kobe.”

Bullshizzle. Kobe is not even as good as Dominique. Kobe is a modern-day Stephan Marbury. Dominique was able to lead teams past the first round. Hell, even Carter took a Toronto team to the East Finals. WTF has kobe done. let me repeat. WTF HAS KOBE DONE! Nothing!

“Now in terms of this Lakers team, this team is like a Forrest Gump box of chocolates: You never know what you gonna get.”

That’s because you’ve got Forrest Gump leading the team.

“Will Kobe develop more trust in his teammates?”

We’re off to a great start off aren’t we? Bynum is a liar, no Kobe is a liar, no Bynum is a liar. That’s great.

“Will the rest of the team earn his trust like the Cavs did for Lebron?”

I think you mean will kobe earn the trust of his teammates whom kobe badmouthed.

“Remember, trust is not given unilaterally. If you think that it should be, then you're a contributing reason to why the NBA has become so soft lately. PERIOD.”

Please convey this message to your client kobe.

some idiot wrote---"Before you start insulting people re their knowledge of geography, you might want to look in the mirror. Colombia is a country in South America. Columbia is the district where our federal government is located."

Ever heard of people spelling check like cheque? or color as colour....I am one of those people...you know....former british colony. Next time...don't be stupid...exhelodrvr---The USA spells most things differently, the only country to do so. Check yourself before you wreck yourself 2-0 baby, 2-0.

Rhon,
"spelling check like cheque? or color as colour....I am one of those people...you know....former british colony ...
The USA spells most things differently"

The USA doesn't spell most words differently than in the UK, just a very small percentage of them. And Columbia is NOT one of those.

Ignorance is the same all over the world; you're pretty obviously one of those people.

Don't criticize someone else's geography until you learn how to read a map.

KBLeast wrote,

"Bullshizzle. Kobe is not even as good as Dominique. Kobe is a modern-day Stephan Marbury. Dominique was able to lead teams past the first round. Hell, even Carter took a Toronto team to the East Finals. WTF has kobe done. let me repeat. WTF HAS KOBE DONE! Nothing!"

I just checked ESPN's archive and the Knick's roster, I was even calling Jim Dolan's office to curse him out for disrespecting Stephan Marbury like that....to allow the guy to retire and not even announce it?---of course that was sarcasm laced with a classic TJ Simmers propaganda style of writing on my part.

The point is, Stephan Marbury is not retired, comparing somebody to someone else would require THE PAST, Marbury still plays, still scores, still hands out assists. And buddy, please, check the stats because as much as I love Kobe...Marbury has averaged more assists than Kobe so they are not even near comparable.

By the way, I remember the 1994 (or was it 95, I don't remember) Finals against Houston where Oneal got schooled. Then I remember couple playoff games where getting the ball to Shaq was cut off by opposing defenses, and Kobe was there to pick it up and maintain or spark the onslaught in the clutch. And remember three playoffs ago when Wade got injured how Detroit really knocked out Miami even though they had a rejuvinated Shaq on their team. They pounded Shaq and prevented the ball from getting to him, even when he had the ball, refs weren't buying into his lack of footwork and 190.34 elbow lobber rating, And we were talking about the High and mighty Shaquille Oneal the guy who you people think could have led the Lakers to the promise land without Kobe! Come on now, how blind and ungrateful can we be? dare any of you to watch the 2004 Finals tape against Detroit, Shaq was lazy, he had no interest, he was getting the ball and not knowing what to do with it. It was Kobe...the only one who poured his heart out averaging 22.1 or 3 points per game for that team. Nobody else was even near consistent in 5 games. And don't tell me Shaq was not motivated because of contract issues and Kobe feuds, he would not throw a championship for some silly tirade. Don't even bring age in this because obviously that was not a factor if you guys think it was Shaq's team.

I am willing to bet my life on this...if Shaq and Kobe remained on the Lakers' team past 2004 they would have never won a Championship even to this day! Quote me, tear your hair out for all I care. Shaq's numbers were slipping away, teams in the west saw how Detroit exposed the tandem and even before that, when the Spurs eliminated us in 03 were beginning to catch on to the Bryant-Oneal duo. Shaq's regimen was always horrible which would have made it worst, look how many games he sat out since being traded in a softer Eastern Conference opposing to the West where you are guaranteed to take a physical pounding both ends of the court every game.

Shaq is no saviour, look at his numbers in the playoffs in which they won the Championship in Miami 6.9 points? and then you may say "but his presence was enough." Oh please, Dallas chocked, what the Heat didn't need was a Bruce Bowen crushing Wade's throat on Defense nor a Daytona 500 Suns to run them into the ground. Wade put them on his back even though he spun three times before taking every foul (watch the games). Shaq always needed a player of Wade and Kobe's magnitude to get him a ring. Penny wasn't all that, sorry. And even Wade got lucky because the only thing he had in common with Jordan was the horrific 3 point percentage---if both Wade and Jordan combined their assets it still wouldn't be enough to buy one from downtown. (Although Jordan did know how to hit if it really counted which was like once or twice a game) Kobe on the other hand is lights out as far as half court (again check comcast on Demand for NBA, or All Star games/contests). Kobe doesn't need a Shaq in the middle, he just needs a collective presence. As for Shaq he will always need THAT special shooting guard....the only thing Kobe is the Least of is the credit he truly deserves. But you are absolutely right, the guy is the biggest bust in NBA history, even OJ Simpson is more loved than Kobe...hey---just the sarcasm talking.

Aww, if such is the case then why does your map says Australia...I can clearly remember Australasia on a NON-American map...

By the way, since you are on the subject of Geography... full time compared to my part time instead of the State of the Lakers, you can always check Google earth for a school nearest to you. Books, and other stationaries sold separately.


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