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Defensive chemistry and cohesion

It kind of flew under the radar last season, but the Lakers didn't play particularly exceptional defense during the 2006-2007 season.

No, you get out of town, because it's true. 

So with T-Minus one week and counting before the Oct. 30th regular season kick off, a large focus has been devoted towards preventing opponents from scoring like those "Entourage" dudes at an Ecstasy party. Thoughts on bettering the purple and gold lock down were shared by three different Lakers.  The first, Kobe Bryant, has been named to the All-Defense team seven times (most recently last season with a first team bid).  The second, Derek Fisher, has gone unnamed heading into his twelfth season, but gained a defensive rep via scrappy hustle and taking a zillion charges.  The third, Luke Walton, could very well play the rest of his career without receiving a single defensive team vote.  But the trio share a common bond when it comes to isolating the central need when it comes to being less of a sieve:

Better team D.

"We're doing better," said Bryant of the Lakers' collective defensive prowess.  "It's something we're all focusing on.  We had a good practice today.  It has to be a consistent thing, something that we really take to heart.  It's going to be a consistent theme until we do something about it."  Along with a theme, it's also the key in Kobe's eyes when it comes to making any progress this season.  "A lot of (the improvement) has to be on the defensive end, if not all of it."

When I asked Kobe about what he looked to improve upon for himself when it comes to better D, the man might be Nike paid, but his answer was strictly Adidas.  As T-Mac, KG or Timmy would say, it takes five.  "Helping us out as a unit," explained Kobe.  "As a group, that's how you win ball games.  You don't win it on individual defense against good teams.  You win it as a whole, so that's why we've been working with the guys on rotations and help side defense."  So to some degree, as I offered, success is about being greater than the sum of your parts.  "It has to be that way," nodded Kobe.  "If you want to do anything in the playoffs, you have to have a good unit and defensive effort."

Walton concurred when asked the same question, citing his and the team's desire to better rotate, double team and generally clog up the paint, with everyone working on the same page.  "If you look at all the great defensive teams in the league, they all play a five man (attack).  You know what you're gonna get every night you play them.  So as far as I'm concerned, you gotta be out there talking.  You can't let down help side (defense), because if we're denying wings and something gets back door, that guy looks bad, even though it's not his responsibility.  So just being out there talking, communicating, letting people where they have to be." 

One of those chief yappers is Fisher, a familiar presence that Walton already sees making a wordy difference.  "Fish has done a great job bringing guys together since he's been back."  Along with advising teammates on where to go, he's also good when it comes to offering general advice on what needs to be done.  "I think defensively, we still have a long ways to go, even though it's the preseason.  We still haven't quite figured out how to get things accomplished, but I think lot of that can come from playing so many guys, so many different groups and combinations, just to understand how to cover for each other, how to protect each other on the floor." 

Unfortunately, there's a lot to learn and in Phil Jackson's eyes, his boys kind of... well... haven't.  "We're real weak," said the Zen Master when asked about rotations and help D.  "We're real young.  We don't recognize things early.  There's some hesitation.  Some guys aren't reacting well."  And unfortunately, the league's fan-friendly nature isn't helping the Lakers make much headway.  "We had an NBA certified-designated-compulsory 'Fan Appreciation Day,' so we had to have an entertaining practice instead of a boring rotation practice.  And we've been playing in a lot of games, so we really haven't practiced it in about five days and these kids need that remedial learning a lot, so you need to go back and forth over it a lot. We got it back in today, but we'll see how much of it we can get done the rest of the week."

A few general notes

Fisher gave an update on his daughter, Tatum, who's receiving treatment for a rare form of eye cancer.  Everything is going well and she seems to be taking her situation in stride.  "It's been inconvenient for her more than anybody, obviously.  Going through everything she's been through.  But she seems to just kind of deal with it.  She wakes up and she's the same girl as she was the day before."  For Fish, that's as good as it gets.  "Every day I wake up and I see her face, it's a great day."

I asked Phil if the training camp injuries have made it tough to name a starting five.  "It's been difficult.  Chris (Mihm) has some things banged up and he wasn't able to practice today.  He had a tough go of it out there (yesterday).  Kwame (Brown) is starting to come along a little bit.  Luke was out the second half yesterday.  Those are the small things that are happening."  Phil did offer two positively tinged notes, though.  He mentioned that Lamar Odom just got his final check up, which might provide an idea of when he could be available to start practicing at game-level speed and contact.  Plus, the reminder that everything is all relative.  "We're in better shape than we were last year at this time.  We had Kobe out and Kwame out."   

Kobe was asked about his seven turnovers last night, along with his general tendency to cough up the rock throughout the preseason.  "In the preseason, you experiment a little bit, see who can do what.  Throw lobs you wouldn't necessarily throw in the regular season, passes that you normally wouldn't make during the regular season.  This is preseason basketball.  You gotta experiment a little bit.  Try something new and see who can do what."  For those who choose to lose sleep over it, I'm not one to tell a fan how to go about his or her business.  But the Mamba ain't fretting the situation. 

In addition to Chris Mihm, Walton also didn't practice.  He strained his hip on Saturday and thought the pain would go away, but further aggravated it during last night's action.  If need be, Luke could have played during the second half of last night's game, but everyone thought it would be better if he rested.  He's day-to-day for now and isn't sure if he'll play tomorrow in Anaheim.

And finally, the quote of the afternoon:

"We're really happy that it's only a week left.  It's, what do they say, kind of like kissing your sister." - Phil Jackson,  expressing his thoughts on preseason basketball in general.

-AK 

 
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AK,

Nice write-up.

I love Phil Jackson. His similes are fricken awesome!

GO LAKERS!

It's too bad that PJ thought he had to give us an entertaining practice. I think most of us loyal fans would've loved nothing better than see the team drilled on defense the whole time.

This is probably the most "break the tradition year" of PJ. Running in 7 seconds, bigs coming out to switch.... I really hope this teams mentality changes and play with a huge chip on their shoulder. Great Article K Bros.....

Peace

Charles

Good read AK.

Still wonder how exactly we're gonna break out championship D this year when we can't even seem to play it for 48 minutes in preseason. But hey I love that it's on the top of their head.

Go Lakers!

Faith,

"Still wonder how exactly we're gonna break out championship D this year when we can't even seem to play it for 48 minutes in preseason. But hey I love that it's on the top of their head."

Well, the short (and likely accurate) answer to that question is, they're not gonna break out championship D. As much as I'd love to envision it otherwise, there's just not enough talent on hand. But if improvement is shown over the course of the season, that's certainly something a reason to become optimistic. Gotta walk before you run.

AK

That's what I want to read about, the attention to defense.
This team will go as far as their defensive effort and ability takes them.

The way I look at our defense is this. Last year we were 25th in Defense and 5th in offense. The way i look at it is we can improve to say middle of the pack, say 15th in defense and maintain our 103 ppg scoring, we can become a very dangerous team.

MH

Bynum said something very promising yesterday. He said defense is all about effort...and he needs to put forth better effort.

While that's true, I think we all pretty much see that Socks is athletic enough, and tall enough to be a great defensive player. I really can't see it on most of our other players. Including Sasha lol. What we do need is that walk you're talking about it...walking for us could mean just putting forth consistent effort on D...and using our best weapon (team D), instead of individual D (coz let's face it, we don't have enough individual defensive players).

You're right, we can't play championship D with this roster, but I have hopes that we can play contender D with team chemistry and effort lol.

Or at best, for PJ to play defensive lineups more---over the offense-centric and defensively bereft lineups he puts out there. Though again, looking at our roster, we have ourselves an offensive team, not so much a defensive team lol.

KOBE & TEAM D:

I watched alot of Team USA in the recent tournament. The team killed everyone they came up against, and the biggest reason for that was the team D. And, as I paid close attention to the games, I was convinced that the single biggest difference on the defensive end was Kobe's effort to shut his man down.

So what, you ask?

Kobe only guarded his man. Everyone else did the same. The team as a whole shut down the other team. The reason for this was that Kobe's defensive effort was contagious. Kobe started it. But once he got the ball rolling, EVERYBODY was actually playing harder on defensive than on offense, perhaps the first (and only) time that happened on a basketball court for an entire team.

How does this affect the Lakers, you wonder?

Kobe (and myself) understand that his offensive workload is bigger with the Lakers than it was on the US team. But I don't think he's giving his teammates enough credit. As a team, the Lakers are decent offensively. With a little Kobe, they are good. If Kobe can master that ambiguous and mysterious "distributor" role, they could be great and efficient. He needs to give his teammates the opportunity to fail. He can't just assume that they will. I don't think they will do as bad as he thinks. This will give Kobe more energy to spend on the defensive end, which gets me back to my point.

If Kobe brought the same effort to the Lakers on defense as he did with the national team (which to this point, he has not), I have no doubt the Lakers would be a top defensive team. The majority of good defense is effort. If Kobe brought the same effort to the Lakers as he did to the national team, he would get his teammates excited and motivated on defense, everyone would try harder, and therefore, everyone (the team) would play better defense individually, and by extension, as a unit.

Better defense as a unit = better team D.

Kobe understands that the Lakers' offense is made significantly better by his effort on that end. He needs to understand that the same is true on the other end of the court.

CALI KING

Weatherman,

Got it. Thanks.

AK

Phil said that Kobe forces passes, not trusting his teamates, is that new to us ? When it is going to end ? Phil also talked about Lamar, Luke, Kobe can run the floor, please, i don't want to read about big three of Lakers ( number 7 seed of the West) anymore, yes you can run and score, but opponent can score on you too? What's the difference ? Don't try to promote a bench player to super star, it already failed in the playoffs 2 seasons in a row. I only believe when Lakers play defense on the floor, let's wait and see.

Frankly, the Lakers D sucks. Its because they dont have guys who are quick laterally. Meaning Walton cant slide step fast enough, Cook cant do it, and Radmanovic gets his feet tangled up that guys can dribble right by them. Turiaf needs to learn to play D without fouling, and I think it has to do with playing in Europe where more contact is allowed.

That being said, the Lakers have a great defensive advantage if used correctly, and that's their length.

Kwame, Mihm, Bynum are 7 footers. Odom is a 7 Footer. Turiaf is like 6'10. Sasha, Luke, Kobe are all tall. The only short guys are Farmar and Fisher.

I think the Lakers should learn to play some sort of zone defense. In a zone, mistakes are less obvious, because rather than one-on-one D, zone is all about team defense and using length. Seriously a line up of

C Bynum
PF Turiaf
SF Odom
SG Kobe
PG Fisher

is really long. Do a 2-3 zone against teams that dont shoot the 3. Or try a box and 1 against a team like phoenix, where Kobe can chase Nash around. What i see usually the Lakers playing is a versrion of a 3-2 zone, but that usually leaves Luke or Radman out to dry on the permiter and then slow rotation from the big guys like Bynum or Kwame.

Perhaps what the Lakers could also try is a trapping D where a guy like Fisher or Farmar come in to get a hand on the ball. However players can throw over the top of them. In that case I would use a rover sort of like Mo Evans to come for a trap.

The Lakers' D is not really about Bynum or Kwame getting tore up down low. They are both strong and big enough not to get pushed down to the basket. Their deficiency is allow penetration...Parker drive and dish, Nash drive and dish, etc. The key then is either packing the bigs down low, or playing targeted defense.

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http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=ks-kobe102207&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

AK:

True, we won't have championship D. The good news, however, is even when we were winning championships, we didn't have championship D. The knock against the team was Shaq was slow to rotate, he wouldn't play perimeter, we couldn't stop quick guards, and we'd get killed on the screen/rolls. 'Course, Shaq in the middle kept a lot of teams from driving. But 15-footers killed us.

If we can improve to the middle of the pack on D, that'll be plenty, at least for this year.

The drive for 55 is alive!

KL,

You wrote: if you hadn't noticed, the team played AS A TEAM when everyone's involved.

From an earlier conversation I seem to recall that English is your first language.
is there a reason why you chose to ignore: pass the ball if your not open.
That implied/explicityly stated passing to a "TEAM"mate. Passing the ball in traffic has lead to "Turnovers". In case you haven't noticed "turnovers" lead to losses. The objective of professional basketball games is to WIN not LOSE. This is not summer camp. There are no gold stars. We don't get bonus points for sing KUMBAYA and holding hands. This is about winning.

Kobe is a shooting guard not a point guard. His job is to put the ball in the cup not make you feel better. Passing the ball for the sake of passing the ball has lead to turnovers. He's supposed to be a killer not the leader of a circle jerk. I want the Lakers to win. I want Kobe to be as efficient as possible. I wan the rest of the Lakers to make their shots. What part of my
earlier commnts mislead you?

But most importantly, the Kobe has to be the defensive stopper more than the offensive leader. How many times did the Lakers get tore up by one guy in their losses?

Tayshaun Prince 31
Michael Redd 45
Josh Howard 29
Glibert Arenas 60
Dwayne Wade 40
Gerald Wallace 28/Matt Caroll 26
LeBron James 38
Carmelo 26/Lienas Lleiza 29
Tracy McGrady 30

Those are from of the Lakers' most memorable losses. The hibachi game when Arenas light up staples, the day when Redd shot lights out (also in Staples) Christmas Day, the debacle in Charlotte, the time they got murdered in Denver and the heartbreaker to Houston.

And whats the common link between all of those guys?? Either shooting guard or Small Foward, but they are all in range of Kobe Bryant's defense. I personally believe is probably too unreaslistc for Kobe to guard Steve Nash, Tony Parker, Deron Williams or Chris Paul. Those guys are too short and quick and if Kobe guards those guys, then it creates a mismatch somehwere else.

But you CANNOT tell me that Kobe cannot guard any of those guys on the list. The way Kobe tries to out play the team's other best player is by outscoring them, and those 9 times he failed, or his high shot count allow for defensive rebounds on the other team and more possessions. In those games against the best wing players: Redd, Arenas, Carmelo, Wade, and LeBron, Kobe got torched.

These are the things that get KLBeast and Gunner talking about Kobe's lack of team play. Defense is a team focus. It takes one guy to shoot and dribble against 5 guys, but it takes 5 guys to guard 5 guys. Kobe has to guard one. Yeah we know that Kobe is the team's best defender. But if mails it in on defense at the expense of shooting, than he worsens the team.

When GMs and Coaches assemble teams and create strategy they look at their roster and say this guy will rebound, this guy passes, this guy shoots this guy plays D. Rosters are designed this way. Kobe is slotted as a defender. If he doesnt play D, it ruins the whole team.

Who knows how many of those games the Lakers could have won, but had the Lakers won at least half of those, you're looking at a 47-32 record, a higher seed and more momentum going into the playoffs and different outlook

Attention all NBA Team,

MAMBA and the gang gonna surprise all of yo!!! Witness the D that they're going to unleash this coming season and the 7 secs that will destory every D you gonna put up... What you have seen in the Pre-season is a Sneak Preview. The General viewing will be shown in a week time.. Trick or Treat?

good to know about tatum fisher. hope she gets better soon

The Lake-Show,

I agree with you here : "The Lakers' D is not really about Bynum or Kwame getting tore up down low. They are both strong and big enough not to get pushed down to the basket. Their deficiency is allow penetration...Parker drive and dish, Nash drive and dish, etc. The key then is either packing the bigs down low, or playing targeted defense."

More than anything, this is why I'm thrilled to see Smush replaced by Fish. Fish may not be a lockdown defender, but he knows how to carry his weight on team defense. I think we'll see less penetration, which will lead to less foul trouble for the Laker bigs.

Kid Licorice
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Talk is cheap. You gotta walk the walk if you're gonna talk the talk.

Luke Walton talking about Defense is like listening to Amy Winehouse preach the value of sobriety or Britney talking about good parenting.

The Lakers committed to Defense in the game against Charlotte and the results speak for themselves. They got the W.

Then, they immediately forgot the lesson in the game against the Clips. Those results speak for themselves. The Clippers got the W.

On the Lakers telecasts, Stu Lantz constantly talks about Defense being a MENTAL part of the game. I think he says Defense is 80% mental, and I believe him. As I've said here before, Phil should award playing minutes based on Defense. These guys can all score on nights when they find their shot.

If the pre-season is any indication at all, the athleticism and desire exists more in the 2nd unit than in the starters. If this continues, bench play will be the difference maker, this season, as the team transitions to its future.

So AK, thanks for dedicating a thread to the D. Despite the sarcasm, it is great to hear the players talking about it. Without D, there is no W.

PJ needs to start Bynum game one and play to win. Best lineup is

C Bynum
F Odom Can Lamar defend 3's coming off picks?
F Turiaf
G Bryant
G Farmar (D. Fish off the bench) Jordan is better.

Championship caliber D would be niiiiice.

But you're neva gonna get it, nooo you're neva gonna get it, no not this time, neva gonna get it...

The Lake-Show,
"How many times did the Lakers get tore up by one guy in their losses?"
Are you serious of this? one guy tore up the laker team? What I know is that, there is only one guy I know that can win against a team by himself and that is no other than Bryant.. Look what he did to Dallas, Raptors to mentioned a few... May I ask you since you are talking about one guy who tore up a Team, how many teams ripped of by Bryant? and How many times He ripped that team by himself? and compare that statistically to those you mentioned in your list of players. We'll see how good their D is...

The Lake show

It seems a odd to me that you are questioning a 7 time all nba defensive selections defense. I mean exactly what are you seeing that all of these guys that actually have a vote arent, or do you have a vore? if you do I apologize. You mentioned KL and Gunner, the guys that always call Kobe the ball hog, while he shoots around the same amount of shots as the other top scorers in the league and leads his position in assists. Doug Collins was spot on the other night on the TNT broadcast when he rightfully pointed out that there is absolutely nothing Kobe can do on the court without being critized. He wins the scoring title taking roughly the same amount of shots as Labron, Melo, Mcgrady, iverson etc yet thats a bad thing?. And he was 1st team all NBA defense bad? and he led his position in assists, but it just doesnt seem to be enough, unbelievable.

MH

trio,

Very simple to refute you. If Kobe is going to share equal glory in wins, than he must share equal blame for losses. And the Lakers finished 42-40 which about as close to 50-50 or EQUAL as you can get.

Didnt know that was a record of success. If that's the case than be my guest, you're right. But since 42-40 is not sucess in the NBA, than you have your head up Kobe's A$$ too.

Trio,


>>>Are you serious of this?... How many times He ripped that team by
>>>himself? and compare that statistically to those you mentioned in your
>>>list of players. We'll see how good their D is...

Yeah, he "ripped" a bunch of teams.. What's your point? That he should save his strength for offense and let the OTHER FOUR dudes on the floor cover for him on D? If those OTHER FOUR dudes wanna win, that is..

Nice..

What happened to the Beast and Gunner? Are they forbidden from posting here?

Sonnybelfast

The sooner we start Turiaf and Bynum, the better I think our D gets. Not top 5 Championship D. But a definite improvement. I just a big fan of Turiaf in general. He hustles. He can hit the occassional jumper. He rebounds. What's not to like? Oh yeah. AND HE'S NEVER ASKED TO BE TRADED!!!!!

KL,

In an earlier thread you responded in a negative fashion to my comment
against Kobe as fascillitator. You've also indicated that English was
your first language. Did you miss the sentence where I indicated
that Kobe should pass the ball if he didn't have a clean shot? You
are aware that passing the ball requires a "TEAM"mate to pass to right?

Have you noticed that passing the ball for the sake of passing the
ball has led to a high rate of turnovers? Are you somehow unaware
that a lot of turnovers [ 7 by Kobe ] tends to lead to a loss? While
you were observing backroom politics and applying that wisdom to basketball did you forget that the purpose of playing professional basketball is to "WIN" games, not hold hands, feel good and sing Kumbaya?

Charles,
"I haven’t been actively contributing to the blog due to this contest on AM 570 to be Joe Grandes’s Co Host. It is very tiring and trying. If any of yo’all are open to voting for me that would be awesome! Charles Yao is the name under the K bracket…"

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If this Lakers team can play good fundamental defense, it is because they are executing at a high rate on the offense end, limiting turnovers, and thereby halting transition and early opportunities for the opposing teams. I think limiting turnovers is a huge factor in the Lakers ability to play sound defense. Our front line is so big, if our perimeter defenders can stay in front of offensive players, opposing teams will force a lot of outside shoots in the half court set. Staying in front of the offense has been an issue with the Lakers guards over the last three seasons (I.E. lack of containment and defensive sliding from Smush and Chucky), but Fisher does a much better job of using his feet and body, and Farmar learned from one of the best defensive college coaches in Howland. I am starting to get some confidence in our On-ball defense. If our big men can not get back down the floor to set up half court defense the Lakers have problems keeping opponents out of the paint and under 100 points. I think at this point it is obvious the Kobe is better as an offenses weapon than Jordan, but I do believe that Jordan/Jackson Bulls teams were one of the greatest teams in NBA history at half court defense (See - on ball defense, help side defense, guarding the pick and roll, defending the paint, and defensive rebounding). If these Lakers can get to 75% of those bulls on the defensive end, I believe we have the fire power to win 55 games and home court advantage at least in the first round. Once in the dance, and once we get defense rotation down to a professional level, we have the trump card assassin mamba. If there is one thing Kobe we always be known for, it is his ability to close and hit the clutch shots. We have got to like our team in May or June, with Kobe Bean Bryant on the squad.

Now that Kobe has worked on making 100,000 shots to correct mild imperfections in his shot, it would fantastic if he could hire a bunch of college players in the off-season and make 50,000 assists to correct hir recent tendency to cough up the ball.

We'll see. I think everyone knows that team defense and the mental toughness that comes with that is the key to our success (or lack therof) this season.

GO LAKERS!

Cali King,

What you say about team defense stemming from individual defense is true in theory, but have you seen the pre-season games? When Kobe has gone into lock-down mode, his team mates behind him haven't been crisp enough on their rotations to actually make it worth while. Other teams are full of shooters, and when Kobe stops his man, they just swing the ball to one of the other dudes.

This usually causes a double-team, which means rotation, which seems to always get broken down by an uncontested layup or three point shot.

Even worse, Kobe sees this happening and tries to gamble and anticipate the next pass, leaving his man wide open. Then, our wonderful play-by-play guy gets to say something silly like, "and Kobe gets burned by so-and-so". In the last game, he was lucky, getting two steals. But, you can't build a defensive team with that strategy.

The guys have to know and stay with their assignments and communicate on D. That is the only way. The only way.

On team USA, Kobe knew his back was covered at all times. He never had to look over his shoulder when his guy passed the ball.

--FearlessWhackJob

Michael H

I completely agree...Ive always felt that a decent defensive team that can keep games close combined with a guy who is going to that much more likely than anyone else to win the game for you in the last 5 minutes is the way to have things....waaah just want to forget Kobe might be leaving.

AK/BK, you may want to consider notifying the blog that KL has been banned and that KL won't use a different screenname to post...

just a thought.

complex,
I agree with you on the beauty of Tennessee and for the most part I agree with Kenny Smith's analysis. I do think that it was appropriate for him to go public to some degree, but Kobe certainly hasn't handled things optimally.

Laker sth,
"*sigh* This Kwame debate should be a good reality check for the blog. Fans of other teams have to look at this and just pity us. You can't laugh because it's just too sad.

Let's be clear. Kwame Brown is not Ben Wallace. He is not Dennis Rodman. He is not Charles Oakley. He is not at all in the conversation of defensive specialists whose offensive short-comings historically have been forgiven because of their value defensively. Kwame does not control the boards. He's not a shot-blocking monster. He denies position. That's it. The guy has never even sniffed the All-NBA Defensive Team.

The guy doesn't lack offensive production, he puts the team at a disadvantage."

Very well said. Kwame's offensive shortcomings can't just be ignored, by saying that Kobe/Lamar/Luke will make up for it. He is such a non-threat on offense that other teams can ignore him, and double-team elsewhere without worrying about paying for it.


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Mamba24,

Thanks so much. The guy I am going up against must have a team of people voting for him. I have my cousins and other friends voting for me and this guys is way ahead.

Voting ends today at midnight. I appreciate it everybody!!!!!!!!!!

Kiwi!!!!!!!! Much love!!!!!

Peace

Charles

Hey guys,

Take a look http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20607408/

I know the New York Post is not a very reliable source but have you all heard anything on your end...since you're in L.A.???

If this story is accurate, do you think the Buss's are "handing" over personnel decisions to PJ to make him the skapegoat when this all goes down? Kind of the way they threw Kobe under the buss (no pun intended) when Shaq was traded?

JOHN KAVULIC,
"Now that Kobe has worked on making 100,000 shots to correct mild imperfections in his shot,
it would fantastic if he could hire a bunch of college players in the off-season and make 50,000
assists to correct hir recent tendency to cough up the ball."

John I'm SHOCKED, absolutely SHOCKED! LOL! Good suggestion.

What happened to Jack Haley on FSN as the Lakers Analyst? Does anyone know where he went?

FEARLESSWHACKJOB:

I agree. The point I 'm trying to make is that Kobe needs to be the leader on both ends of the court, and that leadership should come by example.

But, you are right that ultimately, everybody has to play defense. Each guy has to dig deep inside himself and decide that his guy is not going to get free. Nobody can control that except for each individual player. They have to want to do it before they can do. And, of course, you can't ignore the fact that natural abilities (speed, strength, intelligence) will affect defensive play, as seen in ghuys like Luke, who just isn't very fast.

CALI KING

P.S. On a side note, is it just me, or do the Lakers never play zone D? Other teams kill the Laker offense with it, but I never seem to see the Lakers use it against another team.

Charles,

Based on the percentage movement of a vote, you're at LEAST 1,300 votes down. If the guy has a method, then you'll really have to get the vote out. Open up about 10 tabs and continually vote & refresh while you're on another tab, etc. Do that non-stop for the whole day. If you can crank out a vote every 10 seconds, it will take you 4 hours to catch him, assuming no one else votes for him.

Long video (25 min) from yesterday's practice is up.

http://www.nba.com/lakers/news/07preseason.html

Defense is the theme. Good interviews with Luke, Kobe, PJ and Fish. The mood seems pretty serious. They certainly don't have the problem of thinking they're better than they are. From Kobe not wanting to predict how good this team will be to PJ saying they're weak and have poor recognition on defense to Fish saying the chemistry (right now) is average. They all seem to agree that hard work and focusing on getting better each day will be the answer. It's probably the healthiest perspective you can hope for in the face of uncertainty.

lakers_sth,

Sounds like they have one ingredient for a successful season. If they keep with that, then there's hope as they push all season to improve. Thanks for the update!

Open letter to Mamba24
MAMBA24FAN4LIFE
Fan of Mamba

Hello fellow warrior's if you don't know by now I have been sent from the all consuming light the light force that keeps the laker nation pure and holy and Keeps the protective ring around Kobe bean bryant.Men I salute your job but as you know we have been under a severe attack from the enemy the dark forces that have come to this blog to ravage persucute and to ultimately destroy. I rejoice with you soldiers as we enter into this season that we gladly fight for what is good and pure.....Thank you and carry on gentlemen.

Open letter to Mamba24
MAMBA24FAN4LIFE
Fan of Mamba

Hello fellow warrior's if you don't know by now I have been sent from the all consuming light the light force that keeps the laker nation pure and holy and Keeps the protective ring around Kobe bean bryant.Men I salute your job but as you know we have been under a severe attack from the enemy the dark forces that have come to this blog to ravage persucute and to ultimately destroy. I rejoice with you soldiers as we enter into this season that we gladly fight for what is good and pure.....Thank you and carry on gentlemen.

MH,

"but it just doesnt seem to be enough, unbelievable"

Nice one.. These Haters are see nothing but black spots.

the Lake-show,

"than you have your head up Kobe's A$$ too"

Is it not a Hater who has his head on Kobe's A$$? Didn't you is the one that smell the stink in Kobe's A$$? All you smell and see are the dirt in Kobe. That what your arguments always, Kobe do this - Kobe do that...

"If Kobe is going to share equal glory in wins, than he must share equal blame for losses."

If you are talking about share equally in either win or loss, then why you mentioned and blame only Kobe? not the Team?

I agree with Todd:

"PJ needs to start Bynum game one and play to win. Best lineup is

C Bynum
F Odom Can Lamar defend 3's coming off picks?
F Turiaf
G Bryant
G Farmar (D. Fish off the bench) Jordan is better."

I believe this is the best unit overall. I agree Jordan is better than D Fish offensively and in terms of quickness and speed. It's good though to have D-Fish experience back in the mix. And, I hope to get a pleasant surprise from rook Javaris Crittenton.

My prayer is that the Lakers stay completely healthy and work their tails off to improve on defense.


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