BK,

"Doing some stuff with the Seahawks."

i won't ask any questions

Laker Blake,

The Kid's resume says that for his age his stats are right on par for him being a future All-Star.

If people on this blog want to stop people Kobe or Shaq bashing..can we stop Bynum bashing?? The kid is 19...and unlike Oden or Amare or LeBron he hasnt been playing basketball or conditioning since he was out of the crib. And is that his fault?

You guys act as though suddenly someone can be whipped into elite athlete shape in a year. You cant even count his rookie season because the guy essentially got thrown into the NBA very early. This is his second off season where he can work out. And maybe now at the age of 19-20 he can physically become better. I mean not every 19 year old has the body of a 25 year old. I mean some people are just born that way and others arent.

Wouldnt you be discouraged if your body wasnt like that, but yet you were expected to man up against guys like that??? Wouldnt you be discouraged if you didnt have that feel or touch for the game that other guys have because they have been playing for 15 years already??

Give the dude the break. If hes going to be here, we have to support Bynum. Hes not the one to cast blame for being drafted, or not being traded. But he is a Laker.

RG,

Nice evaluation. Great stuff.

I personally feel Lamar should play the 3 with Luke backing him up.

Mihm and Turiaf should be playing the 4 because they can both hit the 10-12 footers and rebound (assumming Mihm's ankle is fine) and are the prototype for the Traingle.

If we play big heres my Line up: Kwame (on offense the 5, on defense the 4 against Boozer, Brand, Tim Duncan and Amare etc...) Mihm (on offense the 4, defense the 5 spot), Lamar, Kobe and Fish

If we play small: Turiaf, Lamar, Evans, Kobe and Fish.

I don't think we can make it pass the 2nd round, yet on paper it looks like we are pretty deep and may allow us to pull a trade if we revamp the front office.

Charles

reality check time |,
"The sad thing is that Boston, which was ridiculed at the draft, will now be a leading contender in the least,
I mean the East. WHAT SAY YOU?"

I think you said it all. KG knows it wll be easier to get into playoffs in the
East and Paul Pierce is a minnie Kobe together with Ray Allen I would say
Boston is the new Beast of the East.

Long Time Laker Fan and the Lake Show

1. To even think or consider putting our treasured Lakers in the hands of what you guys have admitted to being an unathletic and desire/hunger lacking 7 foot young man is SILLY.
You all are wishing on a star.

2. Long Time Laker, you're willing to lose the greatest player in the game today over a kid with unknown potential to folks who like him; Minimal potential to folks who don't like him.

3. If ANDREW BYNUM was that good McHale or Bird would want him no matter what. Instead, McHale takes Al Jefferson. I know McHale is biased and probably will be working for the Celtics in 2 yrs but Bynun does not make him blink.

Yes it's not Kareem Abdul Jabaar's job to make Bynum an athlete, he needs to already be one.

4. OK, YOU GUYS ARE TALKING SOPHMORE AND SENIOR YR analogies.

Try this one, Andrew Bynum would get abused by Freshmen and Sophmore Tim Duncan's, Shaq, Amare, David Robinson, Hakeem, Kareem, Dwight Howard, and many many more.

So if you guys want this CHILD to anchor OUR Lakers then compare him to FOLKS who can ANCHOR a team.

5. You don't want this conversation with me. Neither does BK or AK.
I watched the kid and I don't see "IT" He does not have "IT"
So why put our whole franchise on his shoulders.

I'm surprised I don't have more folks on the move BYNUM bandwagon.

The one blogger above is right, we're going to fool around and be the CELTICS of the last 15 yrs.

VMAN,

"It's going to take a year of overachievement for Kobe not to opt. Bottom line: season tickets are a bad investment"

THANK YOU!!!! Finally it has been proven to me that this blog is filled with a bunch of NON FANS/SEASON TICKET HOLDERS WHO CARE NOTHING ABOUT WATCHING OR ROOTING FOR THE TEAM UNLESS THEY SEE KOBE SCORING 50 POINTS OF DUNKING ON PEOPLE. YOU KNOW WHAT, I HOPE THAT YOU DONT BUY SEASON TICKETS, I HOPE ALL THOSE RICH WESTSIDE COFFEE DRINKING INDIFFERENT YUPPIES DONT GO TO ANYMORE LAKER GAMES, BECAUSE WAAAAAH THEYRE LAKERS ARENT GOING TO WIN THE TITLE. YOU ARE THE SAME PEOPLE WHO WONT LET THE LAKERS TRADE KOBE, EVEN THOUGH WE COULD INSTANTLY IMPORVE OUR WHOLE TEAM IF HE WAS TRADED AWAY. BUT NOO YOU GUYS WANT TO SEE SOME OTHER RICH SPOILED PERSON WHO BELIEVES EVERYTHING IS ENTITLED TO HIM. HE IS YOUR ROLE MODEL. I SEE IT NOW.

THERE IS A REASON KOBE DOESNT RESONATE WITH MANY BASKETBALL FANS AND ITS THIS POMPOUS ATTITUDE THAT YOU SHARE WITH KOBE.

DONT GO TO THE GAMES, NOBODY BUY SEASON TICKETS (AND YOU HAVE TO BE RICH TO DROP THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS ON SEASON TICKETS SO DONT EVEN TELL ME THAT YOU DONT HAVE MONEY) SO REAL FANS WHO WIN OR LOSE WILL ROOT FOR THEIR LAKERS.

I HOPE YOU, LAKER BLACK, LAKER TOM, FKILLAH, ANGRY LAKER, EDWIN GUECO AND ALL YOU HATERS WHO SAY YOU WONT BE ABLE TO WATCH THE LAKERS NEXT YEAR DONT GO TO GAMES OR WATCH THEM ON TV. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

blaze1bx
"'Ive said it a hundred times, and I'll say it again. I THINK LA HAS A REAL NICE CORE."
Now that's I'm talking about. LO will outperform KG this year.

I think we need to bring in Ruben Patterson. If he is willing to sign for the vet minimum he could definitely help upgrade our defense, and he can score the ball. He doesn't hit the 3, and isn't a great free throw shooter, but he is a good defensive player, and hustles. This roster could be really tough defensively:

Fisher-Farmar-Crittenton
Kobe-Evans-Sasha
Patterson-Luke-Vlad
LO-Turiaf-Cook
Kwame-Bynum-Mihm

The beauty of this squad is that it's deep. If we slide Luke to the bench our second units production will be much better, and having Patterson lessens the need for a true #2 scorers, since we will essentially have 2 number 3 scorers. He's not KG, or JO but he COULD be exactly what the squad needs.

Tim Willis,

"Bynum + Critterdon + Brown > Jefferson, Rondo + Ratliff"

Absolutely not. Jefferson has proven over a longer period of time that he can produce at a high level in the NBA, and he's only 22. Bynum has shown flashes but he's a much bigger unknown than Jefferson. When trading a franchise guy, it helps to get something back in return that is a known quantity.

As for the Critt-Rondo comparison, it's tough to give the nod to JC due to the fact that he hasn't played a second in the league. Rondo proved to be a very good defender and passer at the point, even if his shot was suspect.

As for Kwame-Ratliff, they're just looked at as expiring contracts in the deal so that's a wash.

I think Minnesota makes out in the deal if they get Jefferson, Rondo, and Green plus cap space.

Jandro,
"Lets play some D and not worry about the offense.

I'm with you Jandro

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fkillah

"Like you said, Shaq can't singlehandedly win a championship for the Lakers. Following that logic, since basketball at its core is a team game, one individual can not be the reason why a team loses as well. That 04 Laker team was a mess from the very beginning. From Payton's whining, to Kobe's rape case, and Karl Malone's injury. Inserting two veteran players into the starting lineup of an unorthodox offense was a lot to ask for. Simply put, the chemistry was not there for a variety of reasons. Moreover, to assert that the championship was lost due to one individual is shortsighted and counters the belief that basketball is a team game."

you got me there. i have to concede your point. i still believe kobe chasing a finals MVP hurt the 04 Finals run considerably, but you're points are on target.

The Lake-Show,

Maybe you should read my posts a little more carefully. I clearly pointed out that MItch, Ainge, and Mchale have been terrible GM's. And because of their past track record, I lack faith in all three. And no, I did not miss your point that Isiah is a terrible GM because you never made a point of it in the first place. I mentioned Isiah to illuminate how even the worse GM can make good moves. Dumping Francis's bloated contract and acquiring Randolph is a great move. My main point was to elucidate how other teams are making moves while we are not. Just because Ainge and Mchale are buds doesn't completly excuse Mitch from letting big trades happen on our end. According to Mitch, this summer was going to be the busiest, but all we have to show is Critteon, Luke, and Fisher. And yes, like I clearly mentioned before, that this pending trade may come to fruition because of the fact that Ainge and Mchale are friends. So I don't see the need for us to "fight." But I don't think that is the sole reason why this trade may go down. Another thing, this trade may transpire because Garnett is now open to the idea of playing in Boston. He refused the first trade thus the first trade was nixed, but no is forcing him to play there now. Who wouldn't want to play in the East with a line up that features Ray and Paul?

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Daddy-O (Deer "in the headlight" Daddy)

"KL is sleeping after wasting the day. He must be snoring like the coal trains of the early century. He still has his pacifier in his mouth. Poor guy."

i actually do have a life outside of this blog if you must ask. Any more lectures on how we shouldn't talk too much about kobe, then immediatly post a message on your next post about kob? Your analysis seemed fair at first, then i realize you're talking out of your butt just like the rest of us. BTW, why do you endear yourself with your screenname? Don't get no love at home?

OK, check that, Jefferson is back on the table, thank g-d if you're Minnesota-

and this trade is going to happen, as its being reported all over the place that Boston and Garnett have already negotiated a contract extension----

A giant of a man has passed Bloggers
Bill Walsh former coach of the San Francisco 49ers
passed aaway today of Leukemia at age of 79

By the way, the East will be stacked--talent wise..but time will see if guys gel, stay healthy, and out of trouble..who knows...maybe Stern has this Garnett trade orchestrated

Boston: Garnett, Allen, Pierce
Washington: Arenas, Caron, Jamison
Nets: Kidd, Richardson, Carter
Knicks: Randolph, Marbury, Crawford
Bulls: Heinrich, Gordon, Deng
Detriot: Wallace, Billups, Hamilton
Magic: Lewis, Howard
Heat: Wade, Shaq
Bobcats: Wallace, Richardson
Cavs: LeBron
Toronto: Chris Bosh
Pacers: Jermaine O'neal
Bucks: Michael Redd

If anything, this also goes to show idiots like Bill Simmons that everything averages out, and the east would come back.. i mean at some point the Bulls dominated, the celtics dominated, the lakers dominated, the sixers dominated, the warriors dominated the knicks dominated..i mean to turn the playoffs into something else would be stupid

And this also works in the Lakers favor. I mean..would Kobe want to go to the East now???? If the Garnett trade does go through...suddenly the intensity level goes up in the East. It will no longer be an easy ride to the Finals...In fact, the East probably has more star power than the west

Kobe's best chance is staying with the Lakers..and getting Jermaine O'neal from the Pacers who now have ZERO chance of getting to the playoffs

Bird should just take Bynum and Odom for O'neal and Granger since they arent winning anytime soon. Might as well save money. Shoot, they should take Bynum, Kwame, and Farmar

Regarding KG to Boston

KG to Kobe: "F-U"

Looks like KG's making a good decision if KG to Boston happens. KG-Pierce-Allen should make a formidable threesome in the Least. It's going to be fun next season.

I find it interesting that when Boston's star respectfully request FO to make some deals, and doesn't thump his chest and act like a jerk, good things happen. i wonder what would happen if kobe learns a few things about asking for what he wants instead of taking what he wants.......to be continued in the last paragraph

Looks like old-kobe ain't getting what he wants
*No Jerry West
*No trade to Chigago, Pheonix or Dallas
*No KG
*No "shipping out" Bynum
*No JO
*No firing Mitch

I guess kobe is still having a problems with accepting "no". "No" means "no" and "no" never means "yes" or "maybe"......you'd think after 2004................nah, ain't going to go there.

AHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!

Damn, I really feel sick. My one hope of having a great team to watch is about dead. I'm a die-hard Laker fan going back 20 years. Had season tickets for 3 of them. And I now know a few thing...

1. McHale is the worst GM in the game.
2. KG was the one real chance of contending in the West.
3. I just can't fool myself into another season of putting slightly above average players around Kobe and thinking we have a real chance (even with all of Kobe's talent).
4. I can't listen to Mitch for another year. I thought Del Harris was hard to take, but MK's crap is unbelievable.

I DON'T WANT ANOTHER YEAR OF MIHMS AND VLADS AND FARMARS AND ROOKIES!!!!!

Guess we'll all know how it would have felt to waste Jordan's best years.

(and yes I'm sure we'll win a few more games this year, and do a bit better in the playoffs, but man what a waste...)

jandro,
I do agree with you about defense being our #1 priority, in spite of everyone's constant reference to points when talking players.

However, the injuries last year hurt us much more on defense. No one got used to playing with any set of players. When you add Smush's (and Kobe's to some extent) cowboy style defense, you get a very uneven effort. Just having the same players playing 1st and 2nd team will help our defense. Of course, the coaches HAVE to emphasize defense more.

My point is that a consistent lineup will help us defensively more than trading for a player.

AK/BK,

Like any machine, there is a mechanical breakdown on your blog. Someone here was complaining his post at 3 AM. I also posted a reply to JK but did not go through. Seemingly, the fabled worms get into your system, they are attracted by the cookies your blogs offers. You need a clean up or many more bloggers will be complaining not because of unworthy content but machine deficiency.

This is a celebrated thread because a lot of bloggers would like to burn the effigies of McHale as well as Kupchak.

Laker-Show, do not start misquote me!!!

I have never said I would not be able to watch the lakers, I have supported the lakers since 1980, I have been supporting them thick or thin. I am lakers' fan for life. You do not know me, so don't start to judge or start speaking for me. I do not need a spokesman or PA. So please do you research and I find the post where you alleged I said this things. If not, I expect an apology for being misquoted and misrepresented by yourself. I expected better from you, but as usual in life, one can be easily let down!!

Aaarrrhhhh!!

Angry_Laker

The latest on Navarro...

Memphis is raising the ante and they're really after the compatriot of Pau Gasol. Yesterday, we heard C-Webb saying the Brian Shaw was trying to invite him to the Lakers but he's more vent on going back to the Pistons eventhough they made a decision to stick with McDyes and signed the draft picks.

If the Lakers will lose again to Memphis and Pistons on these two players, wow! what a sorry feeling we have on this team. This is not Kobe as some bloggers are addressing but no confidence on the team itself. This has something to do with the celebrated departure of Shaq accompanied by noises, the flight of mid-level stars through trade and retirement, the acceptance of the scrubs as the centerpiece and finally, the last straw the Kobe rants, we developed a bad reputation as a team. As I said before, once we fail to maintain the standard of the Laker brand, we will lose our luck luster reputation as an acceptable brand to upcoming stars. It took years for Mikan, Chamberlain, West, Baylor, Goodrich, Magic, Kareem, Worthy, Shaq and Kobe built it up, it all get into shambles under the mismanagement of Jim Buss, Mitch Kupchak and Phil Jackson while the fading, old but still reliable owner slept with his girlfriends. That's a shame.

My mistake on previous post, my missing post went through at 11:40 AM, it was just slow.

Our hosts are also getting tired and hungry, don't any of you guys bother send them pizza for the first time?

KLBeast are just pretending to have no idea about workings behind the KG trade!!

Mchale pulled the trade with Lakers because he did not like what we offering and he wanted KG out of the west.

Please stop this stupid F-U crusade because seriously your the one sounds so F-up!!! Take a chill pill and do your research please.
The only power KG has is to say that he will opt out if he is traded to a team de does not like!!! There no reports saying that he we would have opted out if was traded to the lakers, so that blows you F-U theory.

Try and be objective and stop being so subjective!!!
Please no insults, if that is possible, just trying to have a discussion with a fellow lakers fan!!!

Aaarrrhhhh!!

Angry_Laker

BJ man 69,

In 2002, the Sacramento Kings were the consensus best team in the NBA, who in spite of getting shafted by the refs throughout the WCF, won a few games anyway.

This sentiment is well known, documented, and league-wide from both a fan and pundit perspective. I wouldn't expect most brokebackers to admit anything. It would be so far out of character for you, and it really doesn't matter now, does it?

You've got the asterisk, em, er, trophy.

Sonnybelfast