For those readers concerned Luke Walton was severely overpaid
This will hopefully ease your minds. While I sincerely congratulate Mr. Carroll on a hard-earned windfall, you can't tell me Walton isn't worth at least 500K more per season. ESPN's John Hollinger would agree.
Again, doesn't mean that 5 mil a season shouldn't sound staggering for a role player who may come off the bench. It just means that salaries are all relative in today's NBA.
-AK

MY mind is definitely at ease. I've never doubted Luke's abilities as a player and I love his tremendous passing ability but the number did seem a little high initially.
After looking at some absolutely ridiculous salaries, including Mr. Carroll's, I think we got a bargain.
I can't believe I'm saying this but...props to Mitch (i just puked in my mouth). LOL just kidding!
Posted by: EastCoastJessie | July 05, 2007 at 10:24 AM
I do believe that Luke, unlike other recent Laker signings, will earn his money.
Wes
Posted by: wesjoenixon | July 05, 2007 at 10:30 AM
AK,
You'd have to pay me a heck of a lot more money to live and work in Charlotte. I've been there and unless you're a NASCAR driver, it's not a very exciting place to be. I don't think beach volleyball is very popular there, either.
Most of us who are not happy with the deal Walton got most object to the length of the contract. Six years for a guy who's yet to have a break-out season is a long commitment. Also, with his proven weakness as a defender, and as an offensive player who is only effective in the Triangle, it's not like Walton has a lot of value to other teams.
I, for one, can't buy the comparison.
Posted by: Rick Friedman | July 05, 2007 at 10:30 AM
I know this would create unlimited amounts of jokes for the K-Bros, but I wonder if we are one of the teams calling with interest for Darko Milicic.
Orlando definitely won't sign him for what he thought he would have received and there are only a couple teams under the cap that could offer him more than the MLE, and from what I've seen, they aren't in need of what he gives.
So if it's playing time the guy wants, and he's willing to take the MLE, he might be a guy we look at.
Of course having the two biggest draft busts EVER in Kwame Brown and Darko Milicic on the same team might be just enough to solidify Mitch Kupchak's legend in the pantheon of bad GMs, but again, he's a talented big man who would be relatively cheap at the MLE.
Posted by: Andrew Z | July 05, 2007 at 10:31 AM
Did Vlad even have hand surgery? If not, he had better not complain about it this year...
Wes
Posted by: wesjoenixon | July 05, 2007 at 10:31 AM
We shouldn't discount Carroll...he averaged 12 points per game last season and shot 43% from trey. It's hard to put a price tag on having that reliable a shooter on the floor, especially in terms of the impact on spacing.
Posted by: Critical Beatdown | July 05, 2007 at 10:36 AM
wesjoenixon
I agree with you on the Vlad deal... I honestly would have voIded his contract after his little snowboarding accident. That could have been money we used to get KG.
Vlad just hasn't shown me anything to be excited about.
Posted by: EastCoastJessie | July 05, 2007 at 10:42 AM
I'd take Carroll over Luke at this point. A little quicker and can make shots when they count. Not to mention cheaper. As far as trade bait, Luke is worthless. We could have at least seen what some other squad would have offered that turtle.
Posted by: HTJ | July 05, 2007 at 10:43 AM
Rick Friedman,
I hear what you're saying, except Carroll also got six years, he's an even worse defender than Walton, considerably more limited as an overall player, and he got only 500K less per season. If you don't raise eyebrows over his contract, then it really is hard to shake your head too much at Walton's. Throw in the fact that the Lakers really weren't in a position to pass on Walton in this particular season with their cap situation, it's even harder.
AK
Posted by: Andrew Kamenetzky | July 05, 2007 at 10:43 AM
There isn't a single free agent on the market that I would be happy signing to the kind of money they are probably going to get.
Unfortunately we don't have the Suns or Spurs cache where guys will take a lower salary (i.e. Grant Hill) to play for a contender.
We need to either land KG (which it seems we are holding out for), take a risk on Darko, offer Fish a portion of the MLE for a MAX of three years, and then hold tight.
All of our assets get better as the season progresses, and if Kobe keeps his mouth shut we lose the air of desperation that engulfs this franchise/fan base right now.
Posted by: Andrew Z | July 05, 2007 at 10:43 AM
"We shouldn't discount Carroll...he averaged 12 points per game last season and shot 43% from trey. It's hard to put a price tag on having that reliable a shooter on the floor, especially in terms of the impact on spacing."
Luke was leading the league in 3-point shooting before everyone started going down with injuries. When our spacing is correct and everyone's playing team ball like we were at the beginning of the season, Luke can certainly knock them down.
Posted by: generic_one | July 05, 2007 at 10:45 AM
Andrew Z,
If the Lakers could get Darko for the MLE, I'd jump at it in a heartbeat. Are you kidding me? Between his size, young age, upside, shot blocking ability, and my unabashed fascination with the truly bizarre turns of Darko's career, that's a "can't pass up" signing as far as I'm concerned. I mean, the man had a frosted dye job doing for a while. haha
AK
Posted by: Andrew Kamenetzky | July 05, 2007 at 10:47 AM
Mike T,
I can't WAIT for your "Buss" paper in August. It will be sad to see you go, but like they said on this blog, you DO what you say and SAY what you do.
Posted by: kudos | July 05, 2007 at 10:48 AM
AK,
IDK, I think Carroll is actually worth the money he got. He's got a pure jumpshot, and can take the ball off the dribble if need be. I don't know how his defense or passing is, but if I were to compare the players based on what I know, I think I would rather have Carroll.
I know some people aren't going to like seeing this, but I think Carroll is just a better all-around player. Like I said, I don't know how he is defensively, but he can't be much worse than Luke, and he's a better offensive player than Luke. I like Luke, but just going off of what I've seen i'd take Carroll.
Posted by: Weave-Man | July 05, 2007 at 10:48 AM
The only problems that I have is that Luke was injured during the second half into the season and in the postseason due to that ankle injury. That injury is very nagging because it can re-injur itself easily since there isn't much ligaments in the first place. I am just hoping that management took that into consideration when re-signing Luke and if he had completely healed. Luke makes the offense run and he did a spectacular job in the first half of the season and he did deserve that money, but not in the second half of the season. The second problem is the length of the contract. Five years would have been suffice becasue we don't want to get stuck with another Vlad aka I dropped my coffee cuz it was too hot and I didn't want to spill it on the icy floor because then it was going to melt the ice and I could have fallen and broken something so I dived after it and dislocated my shoulder for trying to be a hero and saving myself. I added a little to the story line to make it sound more believable.
Posted by: Ray | July 05, 2007 at 10:49 AM
The only problems that I have is that Luke was injured during the second half into the season and in the postseason due to that ankle injury. That injury is very nagging because it can re-injur itself easily since there isn't much ligaments in the first place. I am just hoping that management took that into consideration when re-signing Luke and if he had completely healed. Luke makes the offense run and he did a spectacular job in the first half of the season and he did deserve that money, but not in the second half of the season. The second problem is the length of the contract. Five years would have been suffice becasue we don't want to get stuck with another Vlad aka I dropped my coffee cuz it was too hot and I didn't want to spill it on the icy floor because then it was going to melt the ice and I could have fallen and broken something so I dived after it and dislocated my shoulder for trying to be a hero and saving myself. I added a little to the story line to make it sound more believable.
Posted by: Ray | July 05, 2007 at 10:50 AM
AK/BK,
What ever happened to taking our feedback and changing the site?
1) There are still no sports links on the side. I speak for your target audience and believe "Food" and "obituaries" are not something we go to every day.
2) You guys still talk "Dodger Blue" on your intro.
Are any changes happening?
Posted by: zen | July 05, 2007 at 10:53 AM
Hey can anyone post the grade ESPN Insider gave Walton? I´m too cheap to buy. I´m currently in Spain right now and the time is 7:45 PM. I´ve been asking the locals about our second round pick ,Gasol, (if I realize they do watch the NBA) and not too many people know this kid besides being Pau´s sibling.
I´ve been staying in Madrid for the past couple days, and I´m surprised to see basketball courts installed in the local parks. I don´t see too many people playing as the courts, which have soccer nets adjacent to the baskets, are often used for original football. Also, not too many people care about Beckham leaving as their loyalties are strongly tied to Real Madrid.
Posted by: never | July 05, 2007 at 10:56 AM
Weaveman,
Walton's passing and rebounding are both considerably better than Carroll's. They're both average defenders at best. Neither is particularly athletic. You take away three point shooting and there's nothing Carroll does better. Walton's also been a bigger part of better teams and they're the same age. If Carroll is worth 27 mil at 6 years, Walton is easily justified at 30 mil for the same years.
Again, I'm not trying to sell Walton as a better player than he is. He's never going to be more than a nice role player. My point was just that in today's NBA, 5 mil gets you a Luke Walton-ish player. Just sorta how it works.
AK
Posted by: Andrew Kamenetzky | July 05, 2007 at 10:58 AM
The NBA is playing Monopoly on steroids.
The cap demands less + the players demand more = the public gets a diluted product. The '85 Lakers couldn't be assembled today and all historical comaprisons, a favorite game on this blog, are irrelevant.
If it takes 3 "go to" pieces to win it all then some one or two of them has to be willing to take less come contract time. There just isn't anymore room on the bottom line.
Luke's $ was only disappointing if you were looking for a savior. Saviors arent' available in that price range. LO's price range is another story.
Posted by: Vman | July 05, 2007 at 10:59 AM
Oh wow - this is a topic? Luke Signs! I like him a lot - big deal. House of Buss
is burning down and we grab a glass of water from the refridgerator. Stop fiddling, folks - concentrate on what matters. When the owner dates women who are younger than whiskey and is never in town when we need him, the answer is clear - Buss should sell the Lakers and go buy China, since he and his family seem to like cheaply-built things that don't work. Or, are you all too young to remember the Championships?
Posted by: Paul Hefti | July 05, 2007 at 11:00 AM
Hey I have a question for all you guys. HOw do you guys feel that D-Fish's 1st choice was to go to NYC, not LA? I understand the specialists his daughter was seeing is in NY, but im sure there are qualified specialists in LA also.
Should we look at it as Dfish not wanting to play with Kobe again, or that he wants to deal with those specialist only?
This is probably only a question DFish can answer himself, just wanted to know what you guys thought after reading some articles on foxsports.com
Posted by: tripgame3 | July 05, 2007 at 11:01 AM
DFish probably just thinks he can dupe Isiah into giving him a max deal.
Posted by: HTJ | July 05, 2007 at 11:04 AM
5 mil can get you a Grant Hill.
Posted by: Kobe Apologist | July 05, 2007 at 11:07 AM
Tripgame,
BK and my father is a retired opthamologist/eye surgeon and I talked to him about the Fisher situation. He told me that two of the leading centers for this particular disease are in NYC and Boston. Those were the places that immediately popped into his head. I wouldn't attempt to read between any lines with this. I imagine Fisher is thinking about geography based on his daughter first, second and third, with basketball fourth at best.
AK
Posted by: Andrew Kamenetzky | July 05, 2007 at 11:07 AM
AK,
There are very few teams that can offer Darko more than the MLE. He could get more money via sign and trade, but with signing Lewis the Magic really can't take the salaries back (or don't want to).
Darko has said he wants PT, and I'm thinking he's a pretty good fit with us (shot blocker and post scorer).
In addition, he would fill a major need if we do make a big trade where our entire front court would have to be moved.
As for the Carroll signing, it's a great MJ move, a head scratcher. Let's just add Jordan to the list of Bird, McHale, and Isaiah of great players who absolutely SUCK as GM's. Jordan is horrendous.
Posted by: Andrew Z | July 05, 2007 at 11:08 AM
AK,
What's upsetting about the walton signing is not that he's grossly overpaid, it's that we've invested 60 mil at the same position. Wnen ski vlad got signed last season, my first thought was why didn't we spend the mid level exception on a guy like marcus banks or mike james to address our pg problems. Also as Mike T. has often pointed out, resigning luke does not help address our defensive woes.
Also it ain't like Carrol is a dud either, he average more ppg at 12.1 than Luke's 11.4 and did it in less time 26.1 vs Luke's 33mpg. He's also a 91% free throw shooter vs luke's 75%. Luke has the edge in rebounding 5rpg compared to 3rpg for Carrol and also holds an edge in assists 4.3 vs 1.3 for Carrol. Bottom line, I don't think you can parade Carrol as someone that's Luke is much better than. And also I don't think you can parade the bobcats as an organization with a good front office, so hence their signing would be seen as good decision. Most analyst questioned their judgement in the jason richardson trade, and we've also got their FO to thank for making Kwame a #1 pick.
Besides kobe, only two people seemed to show heart on the court on a consistent basis, and that's lamar and luke. My only problem with the signing is we already gave vlad and cooke about 40mil to play arguably the small foward position. And that's not to mention the fact that Lamar is very effective at that position too.
Posted by: Taliq | July 05, 2007 at 11:10 AM
personally i actually never thought that walton is getting overpaid one bit with his new contract, if anything he is bound to it almost the rest of his career now and wont be able to potentially earn bigger bucks down the road if salaries go up or he improves significantly still and teams are willing to give him more money for less years. besides you cant just give the max contract to the top star on the team and give everybody else the bare minimum. If you play in the NBA obviously your gonna get atleast this type of money i figured people would realize this by now, its 2007 wasn't jordan pulling down like 30mill a year back in the day?
Posted by: Violater | July 05, 2007 at 11:13 AM
Hill signs with Phoenix for 1.8 mil.
Never,
Your in Spain but you can't afford the Espn Insider ??? Hmmm Interesting.
I'm glad we resigned walton now if healthy lets get Mihm re-signed for a Mil or so.
And as for Caroll...the dude knocked down 3's without playing with a superstar and on a bad team ! Imagine what he could do on a team like Phoenix or San Antonio !
Posted by: LALAKERLOVER | July 05, 2007 at 11:16 AM
tripgame 3, never
Tripgame3,
D-Fish said that he would like to play in NY because that is where his daughter's doctor is located as you mentioned earlier. D-Fish will still have the same problem if he plays in L.A. because he is still going to have to travel to N.Y. to see the specialist. There are a couple of good specialists in L.A., but the hospital that D-Fish is located in N.Y. since it is a hospital designed to treat that specific disease so let us not blow it out of proportion and conclude that D-Fish does not want to play along side with Kobe.
Never, espn gave a B+ for the signing of Luke for the immediate future since he a good passer and knows the offense well, but for the long term they gave the Lakers a D+ since the contract length exceeded the norm for a Luke Walton player.
Posted by: Ray | July 05, 2007 at 11:17 AM
AK,
Thanks for the info man. I assumed that LA would be one of the top 2 but I was wrong. I was just curious b/c I read an article on foxsports where he kind of sided with the Laker FO by saying you never throw someone under the bus for any reason and I totally agree with him. Also FO should never throw anyone under the bus.
http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/story/6989160
Posted by: tripgame3 | July 05, 2007 at 11:19 AM
Since the KG talk has died down, I suggest we start a getdarko.com website; I wonder if anyone is going to offer up more than the MLE for him. If they don't we should jump at the chance. It's not like we're trading Caron Butler for him or anything.
Posted by: Tully Moxness | July 05, 2007 at 11:22 AM
Paul H:
"When the owner dates women who are younger than whiskey"
They're older than bad whiskey (or whisky depending on what you're drinking), at least. And is there really that big of a problem? Buss dating young women? If I get to be his age and am capable of dating the kind of women that he does, you can bet your bottom dollar that's exactly what I'll be doing.
"Or, are you all too young to remember the Championships?"
Seeing as how we have to be at least 13 years of age to post on this board and the most recent Laker championship was in 2002, I would bet it's safe to say that we all remember what a championship is.
Posted by: generic_one | July 05, 2007 at 11:24 AM
Violater,
"its 2007 wasn't jordan pulling down like 30mill a year back in the day"
Jordan's situation was unique. He wasn't making major dough in the early stages of his career so he and his agent made sure he got paid in the latter stages. In his final 3 years, he was signing only 1 year contracts and renegotiating at the end of every season. It was at that point that he was getting up to 30mil per season.
Posted by: Taliq | July 05, 2007 at 11:27 AM
I preffer Milicic than the fragile and ankles question mark of Chris Mihn.
I like MIhn as a player and as a person, but if we have to give all the MLE exception to Mihn. let's do a sign and trade with Chicago and another with Milicic (VLAD RAD).
Milicic fro VLA (If Orlando agree)
Mihn for Sefolosha and Duhon.
Duhon could be a piece we can ship later in other trade.
Sefolosha is a big guard, great defender (Remember? he shutted down Wade)
Milicic could be a effective offensive player and also a good block shocker with more upside than Kwame and less pricey. Milicic played very well in the Playoffs against Detroit.
Posted by: jorema | July 05, 2007 at 11:28 AM
"5 mil can get you a Grant Hill."
umm i'd rather give luke that money. we've had enough of playing folks to watch from the bench in recent years. no need to add grant's bum ankle to the mix
Posted by: Taliq | July 05, 2007 at 11:29 AM
Taliq,
I understand what you're saying about the money invested at SF, but keep in mind, Vlad also plays the 4 a lot as well. It's not like he's exclusively used as a 3.
There also just aren't a lot of small forwards who'd qualify as upgrades that the Lakers can afford as free agents or that are being offered as trade bait. Ron-Ron comes to mind. Maybe Mo Pete. That's about it. If the Lakers can sign either, great. Let Walton come off the bench, as the Lakers would prefer, anyway.
But otherwise, if the Lakers don't have much opportunity to upgrade at the 3, they might have to make due and try to improve other spots. And given the Lakers' limited ability to bring in players and how poorly Vlad played last season, you can't really allow the guy who outplayed him by a long shot to walk. Honestly, the issue isn't really Walton's contract. It's Vlad's.
I agree with you, by the way, that Carroll has use as a player. I'm not trying to say he sucks or anything. But he's much more limited than Walton when it comes to versatility, only does one thing better, is equally limited as a defender and an athlete, plus they're the same age. My original point was just that if he's making 6yrs/27mil, 6yr/30mil for Walton is pretty reasonable.
AK
Posted by: Andrew Kamenetzky | July 05, 2007 at 11:29 AM
REPOST
1) Forward/Center Improvement – Darko Milicic ~ Sign & Trade
Chicago receives Chris Mihm
Orlando receives Brian Cook and Thabo Sefolosha
LA Lakers receive Darko Milicic and Malik Allen
Explanation: This is the opportunity for the Lakers to benefit from a strange situation. Chris Mihm, Darko Milicic and Brian Cook all appear to have market value right now. Most of this has been created by the interest from the Bulls for both Mihm and Milicic. This trade would allow the Bulls to get one of those coveted big men (Mihm). This trade would allow the Magic to get something decent for Milicic (Cook) as well as some more help at guard/forward (Sefolosha). This trade would give the Lakers more defensive strength and depth at forward/center (Milicic and Allen).
2) Small Forward Improvement – Corey Maggette ~ 3-Team Trade
Indiana receives Tim Thomas, Aaron Williams, Kwame Brown and future pick(s)
LA Clippers receive Mike Dunleavy, Troy Murphy, and future pick(s)
LA Lakers receive Corey Maggette
Explanation: Give the Pacers and Clippers what they want, and hope they don’t notice what the Lakers get. The Pacers unload 2 “bad contracts” while taking the expiring contracts of Brown and Williams. Although Thomas’ contract is not favorable, it is much more workable than either Dunleavy or Murphy, while maintaining the level of production. The Clippers would finally move Maggette, bring Dunleavy Jr. to play for his father, and add additional depth at forward/center with Murphy. Although they would be adding contracts, the end result could be getting back to the playoffs. The Lakers would be adding the third piece of the winning triangle they have been trying to create.
Point Guard Improvement – Derek Fisher
Sign FA Point Guard Derek Fisher to 3yr/$15mil contract with player options for yr. 2 and 3.
Explanation: Given that the other areas would be addressed, the MLE would be left to use on Derek Fisher. Hopefully the Lakers will not allow themselves to lose out on Derek Fisher again because they are not willing to pay him. This is a golden opportunity that honestly the Lakers don’t deserve. Sign him and enjoy the benefits that come with it.
New Roster:
Starting Five – Fisher, Bryant, Maggette, Odom and Bynum
Reserves – Farmar, Vujacic, Evans, Walton, Radmanovic, Turiaf, Milicic
Inactive List – Crittenton, minimum contract or draft picks (Yue and Gasol)
These three steps address the major needs for the Lakers this off-season in a financially reasonable way. They don’t make the Lakers instant title contenders; however, there are no options this summer that would be guaranteed to do so. At the very least, this would put them in the same category as the Utah Jazz, as a team with potential above that of expectations.
Posted by: JJ | July 05, 2007 at 11:30 AM
Imagine Vlad, Kwame, and Darko in the lineup at that same time.
BTW, wasn't Darko the fifth Marx brother?
Posted by: exhelodrvr | July 05, 2007 at 11:31 AM
Paul Hefti,
"Buss should sell the Lakers and go buy China,"
Oh, come on now. Buss wouldn't trade the Lakers for all the teat in China!!
Posted by: exhelodrvr | July 05, 2007 at 11:33 AM
AK and BK:
I wonder how many other bloggers appreciate reading this thread as much as I have. The difference? The obvious absence of the Kobe haters and their repetitive vitriolic posts.
It’s almost as if we turned the clock back a year. Unfortunately, it is unlikely that it will last very long. KL and his various aliases have driven away many of the long time posters that made this blog the best place in the world for Lakers fans to meet and post.
Theirs is a victory for hate and negativism over appreciation and optimism. They have ruined a good thing and offered nothing but senseless antagonism in return. You don’t even have to be an elder like me to wish we could turn the clock back to the times before they discovered a new sand box to desecrate.
Think about how much more pleasant it would be to be able to click a button and filter out any posts by these guys. If you want the blog to continue its phenomenal success, you need to get with the times (not the Times) and implement a way for users to block unwanted posts. If you don’t, the blog will never again be as good as it was in its earlier headier days.
It’s up to you guys to save us. Otherwise, the landslide of vital and intelligent bloggers leaving will continue and the special place that you created will become just another virtual dump overrun by juvenile junkies who think their clever innuendos and comments hide the hate and disrespect in their hearts.
Save us, AK or BK. Or lose us and the blog.
Tom
Posted by: LakerTom | July 05, 2007 at 11:34 AM
Tripgame,
Just to clarify, my dad didn't say NYC and Boston were the top 2 centers. Those were just the two that first jumped to mind for him. I just meant that I could believe Fish might think New York was the best place to handle this situation, regardless of anything involving hoops.
AK
Posted by: Andrew Kamenetzky | July 05, 2007 at 11:38 AM
ex:
"Oh, come on now. Buss wouldn't trade the Lakers for all the teat in China!!"
Exactly! He'll always do what's breast for the team!
Posted by: generic_one | July 05, 2007 at 11:38 AM
Grant Hill disappears on the cheap...now where is the Laker mystique? for as cheap as he signed he did a good thing to get on a contender.
Allowing the Lakers to wallow in the dump is why players will not come here. No commitment, no gambles, no rallying, too slow and so often left looking as the next news breaks that it reminds me of smush on defense. Kobe should be pushing guys to come here and make a whole bunch of that surplus money he has lost in his own world of stupidity. LA is a great city to make money in, and no where better to be in the MTV world which all these players adore. Mitch- put that in your rap...something anything, make a trade this team needs some life.
That KG video was sad. He would be a huge plus as a Laker. All kinds of players can help but this guy makes a difference.
Posted by: Pete Maguire | July 05, 2007 at 11:39 AM
Taliq,
"He (Jordan) wasn't making major dough in the early stages of his career so he and his agent made sure he got paid in the latter stages."
That may be true but the fact remains that yes he was resigning each year for only one year and pulling like 30 million per. That is a lot of dough even for Jordan so i totally agree with AK. 30 million for six years is nada my friend. Besides thats probably all Walton will see when his career is said and done, in six years he will be 33 i think correct me if i'm wrong.
Also Jordan made more cash with endorsements then he did with the Bulls.
Posted by: Violater | July 05, 2007 at 11:45 AM
Darko actually is a better shot blocker than Kwame and also is a better offensive player. No offense to Mike T. but at this point, Kwame is a bigger bust. Signing Darko to the MLE would be a bargain.
Posted by: sixonezero | July 05, 2007 at 11:45 AM
Generic,
"Exactly! He'll always do what's breast for the team!"
A-pair-ently, the current situation has made him meloncholy.
Posted by: exhelodrvr | July 05, 2007 at 11:46 AM
With alll the MT every day publicity of kwame brown defensive marvels some in this blog thing that he is really what MTeniente say.
Wrong.
Brown lacks in three or four important aspects that a good interior defenser provide.
Blocking shots, Offensive and deffensive rebounds, good positioning under the basket, stopping guards penetration.
Kwame is mediocre in all those.
The only thing Kwame can do is just be a strong wall against a player post up in the paint. Besides that, he is a failure. Part of our defensive problems is inside, not only outside. Lamar is very weak inside, Kwame is a ghost, Bynum is a foul waiting to happen, react to late, don't fight enought for positioning because he is intimidated easily for physical and athletic guys like Amare. Walton is slower than Yao, moving around.
If Kobe can have a tandem of Gasol and Milicic, plus Lamar in small forward or Nocioni, Fisher in the point. This team can win 50 games easily.
With silly players like Bynum and Brown, Not Vlad, Walton hobbling in a ankle, Cook stupid defensive reactions, Sasha frenetic errors and not good shooting, Farmar inexperience and inefective outside shooting, Lamar in 75 % healthy state, Smush shenanigans and atrocious defense, Kobe at least went to playoff and won 40 games.
Imagine Kobe transported in team with Phoenix Suns players?
60 plus games and a easy win over San Antonio.
Posted by: jorema | July 05, 2007 at 11:46 AM
ex:
"BTW, wasn't Darko the fifth Marx brother?"
How about a lineup of Beno, Marko, Hedo, Darko and Zarko?
Posted by: generic_one | July 05, 2007 at 11:46 AM
Generic,
"How about a lineup of Beno, Marko, Hedo, Darko and Zarko?"
That's why you're never getting banned from this blog. Kudos.
AK
Posted by: Andrew Kamenetzky | July 05, 2007 at 11:48 AM