Best of luck to Derek Fisher
July 2, 2007 | 6:30
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Former Laker Derek Fisher will be released from his contract with the Utah Jazz to help take care of his young daughter, who'll be undergoing chemo treatment for eye cancer detected during the '07 playoffs. Fisher said he's not retiring, but acknowledges that basketball is a secondary priority right now, which creates a need to step away from the court.
D-Fish has always been a favorite of BK and mine, among the elite when it comes to NBA players we truly respect on and off the court. We wish the best to his family.
-AK



LOL! It's amazing how the same names keep coming up at the same time. Guess who Derek Fisher's agent is?
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http://getgarnett.com/blog/?p=451
Lakers among the teams interested in James Posey
Published by The Nuggetat July 3, 2007 in Articles.
Miami Herald: There’s at least a chance the Heat won’t watch a second free agent bolt to another team without getting something — or someone — in return.
The agent for veteran forward James Posey said Monday his client would agree to be used in a sign-and-trade deal if the Heat was unwilling to offer a new deal to stay in Miami.
Posey has attracted interest from Utah, Dallas, Denver, New Jersey, Cleveland and the Los Angeles Lakers, agent Mark Bartelstein said.
Posey is an unrestricted free agent and free to deal with another team without having to work out an arrangement with the Heat. But Bartelstein said Posey is willing to wait for the best opportunity.
”When it gets to this time of the year, you have to have an open mind about everything,” Bartelstein said. “[Posey] would like to go back to Miami, but he’s going to make the best decision he can for him.”
Posted by: TaosHum | July 03, 2007 at 09:36 AM
Having already posted best wishes to D-Fish, a turn to the continuing KG question. The SF Chronicle suggests that Golden State would be willing to pay the luxury tax to acquire Garnett:
Warriors President Robert Rowell said the team would have no problem spending the $10 million trade exception acquired in the Richardson deal. As for entering luxury-tax territory, which is likely if Garnett somehow lands in Oakland? "I've always said this team will pay a tax if we're in a position to put a team out on the court that's going to compete at the highest level possible," Rowell said. "I'll also back up and say that in the history of who's won championships in this league, the San Antonio Spurs have won four championships and they've paid tax once. ... So it's very doable." -- SF Chronicle
Anyone think Dr. Buss would do the same?
Posted by: Rick Friedman | July 03, 2007 at 09:38 AM
East Coast Jessie,
Truth be told, BK and I actually don't have the ability to go through each post and omit all the "ridiculous" ones. We simply don't have time to read each one carefully. But beyond that, what are you referring to when you say "ridiculous?" Just to clarify?
Thanks,
AK
Posted by: Andrew Kamenetzky | July 03, 2007 at 09:38 AM
Mamba24 post the roll call, hallelujah
Mamba24 post the roll call, hallelujah
Larry, KG's being held hostage, oh please god no.
Larry, KG's being held hostage, oh please god no.
The bloggers are torn and the bloggers have cried, hallelujah
We're Laker fans filled with so much pride, hallelujah
Mamba24 post the roll call, hallelujah
Mamba24 post the roll call, hallelujah
Larry, KG's being held hostage, oh please god no.
Larry, KG's being held hostage, oh please god no.
Dr. Jerry Buss is silly and old, hallelujah
Phil's hip was replaced but not his soul, hallelujah
Mamba24 post the roll call, hallelujah
Mamba24 post the roll call, hallelujah
Larry, KG's being held hostage, oh please god no.
Larry, KG's being held hostage, oh please god no.
The bloggers are torn and the bloggers have cried, oh please god no.
Jim Buss makes me want to commit homicide, hallelujah
Mamba24 post the roll call, hallelujah
Mamba24 post the roll call, hallelujah
Larry, KG's being held hostage, oh please god no.
Larry, KG's being held hostage, oh please god no.
Posted by: generic_one | July 03, 2007 at 09:40 AM
WOW
“I'm not like Mamba that is respectful, I'll cut straight to your BS facts and you incompetence when it comes to bball knowledge. Stay away from me man. I don't play that sh8t. And you are right I am menstrating, which even means back the back off!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!”
understood boss. Midol?
BOB
“This is only a request and I’m sure it will fall on deaf ears but please don't speak of your hate for Kobe when talking about D-Fish and the situation his family is in.”
why do you assume DFish actually would read this blog when he’s dealing with real life issues? Man, lighten up.
WATERBOY
“I didn't know you were privy to Derek's decision-making process. Are you sure it wasn't because of the much-deserved contract Cupcake won't give him?”
dude, I don’t need to have a PhD on basketball pshycology to know that when a shaq leaves, “them other guys” will have no reason to stick around. just look at the roster from 2004 and 2005. it’s not rocket science. also, look at the roster for the past 3 season. it’s not rocket science either. NOBODY OF STATURE WANTS TO PLAY WITH A SELF-ABSORBED KOBE BRYANT.
BENNY BLANCA
“No matter the subject, you can find a way to SLAM kobe. That said, i don't disagree. It was just a bit unexpected, as i scrolled through the messages of well wishing, "please come backs" and WHAM!”
Hey, I truly do wish Fisher well and I’ll always remember Dfish as a class act. Hell, I repect Fish in b-ball history 100x more than kobe Bryant and I’m being 100% sincere.
JUNO
“So KL... move to another state if you can't stand Kobe being a Laker. Looser!!!”
Ju-Know what, juno? Why doesn’t kobe move to another state? I was here first.
STEVEN IN DENVER
“r someone who claims to be in the financial industry, you seem to have very little common sense or insight.”
I guess it’s a matter of interpretation on the lever of “common sense” or “insight”.
GUNNER24
“FIRST, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY FISH IS THE PERFECT EXAMPLE OF A TEAM PLAYER BOTH ON AND OFF THE COURT.
Fish is one of my all-time fav lakers.
Posted by: KLBeast | July 03, 2007 at 09:43 AM
Rick Friedman,
I absolutely feel that Dr. Busss would pay the luxury tax if it was worth it and he received a player(s) that would enable the Lakers to compete for the title. The Lakers have always had one of the highest payrolls and Dr. Buss has never been shy of compensating players accordingly.
Some might disagree with who he is willing to pay that money to, but don't mistake the fact that he would definitely pay to put a contender on the floor.
Another thing to consider is that a high payroll or paying the luxury tax doesn't necessarily mean you're a good team. Look at the Knicks. It's about spending money wisely, and as quoted above, San Antonio has won three rings without paying a luxury tax, so it can be done.
In regards to KG, if we had the pieces to trade with Minnesota that they would take, we'd definitely end up paying the luxury tax for a few years, but you still hear about us being one of the most aggressive teams in trying to land KG. It's not about Buss' willingness or lack of willingness to spend, it's about us not having the pieces to make the trade work.
Posted by: Andrew Z | July 03, 2007 at 09:47 AM
KL and Gunner (The new Kobe and Shaq)
I can't wait for basketball to start to shut you haters up. Its easy to talk all this mess you want when no bball is been played. You both know Kobe will be on the lakers team, so evantually yall don get what you want. You will only rant and rant and get under people's skin for nothing. But wait till we start playing some bball again, you haters will eat those words of yours. Yall have no bball sense. This is my last post to the two of you ever. We will let the work on the bball court do the talking. You two are great motivators for people that love challenges. You say so much smack that you inspire your opponents to come back stronger. Just know someone is working to shut your mouths up. While you sit and type on your comp, the person that has to walk the walk is preparing to walk the walk, and we will see when november comes.
Posted by: wow | July 03, 2007 at 09:48 AM
ANOTHER KUPCAKE FAILURE
Mitch should have been on top of D-Fish's situation enough to know that we could easily resign him once this happened. Now if we do sign him, we suddenly have a logjam at point guard. We should have used our pick to score a frontcourt player!! Nice one, Mitch. As usual.
Posted by: Jay Jay | July 03, 2007 at 09:48 AM
Kl,
At least you know how to take order, proves the lil bit*h you are.
Posted by: wow | July 03, 2007 at 09:50 AM
if the Lakers are interested in Posey, does this mean they are not impressed by Radmanovich this offseason and are looking to move him? How many SF's can you have playing 25+ minutes/game? If this is true then Walton is the starter, period. Mike T is going to have a conniption! LOL!
Posted by: TaosHum | July 03, 2007 at 09:50 AM
Andrew Z,
On second thought, you are right -- the Chinese National Team isn't that good. Still, if I had to trade Kobe, I'd do it for Yao and Shane. Again, don't know if the Rockets would be willing to take that.
tha show,
haha.. i guess there might be a slight Asian bias -- but really, that kinda wore out long time ago for me. Also, I don't really respect what Yi Jianliang's camp is doing with the holding out on Milwaukee and I don't even know if Sun Yue will be any good.
I am however, waiting for a Korean baller who isn't all nice and stuff. Like I want a Korean Iverson -- not a 9'11" center.
If we can't get KG, then I say get rid of Kobe. I am only wanting Kobe to stay now if we can get KG. Because that combo would be so nice to watch. But really, I threw in the towel for my hopes of Kobe changing his attitude. All my friends were right all along. My years of defending him have literally dried up.
If we can't get KG, trade Kobe for any of these possible scenarios:
(none of these have gone thru the Trade Machine)
Kobe for Yao Ming and Shane Battier (doubt Rockets would do this)
Kobe for Amare and Barbosa (doubt Suns would do this -- but MAYBE)
Kobe for Elton Brand + someone (doubt Kobe would agree nor would Lakers FO)
Kobe for Kevin Durant (yes, this may seem crazy and unplausible but if we are gonna rebuild, might as well take a nice one -- Kobe would reject this and also Sonics would reject this right away)
Kobe for Oden (see Durant)
Kobe for LeBron (of course Cavs would NEVER do this)
Kobe for .. it just doesn't work...
We will NEVER get equal value and if we could get anything near it, either Kobe will reject it or the other team will. A Kobe trade is nearly impossible.
Man, I just wish Kobe could shut the heck up. If we can't trade him and we don't get Garnett, and he keeps on pouting -- I say we just bench him for a year.
GO LAKERS!!! <--- the TEAM not Kobe Byatch Bryant
Posted by: David Whang | July 03, 2007 at 09:55 AM
First Mamba leaving, now Fisher.
Someone shoot me!!
Posted by: keifo | July 03, 2007 at 09:55 AM
Andrew Z,
"I absolutely feel that Dr. Busss would pay the luxury tax if it was worth it and he received a player(s) that would enable the Lakers to compete for the title. "
I used to think that, but then he let Shaq go. (And the Lakers would have definitely been a contender, if not the favorite, if Shaq had stayed.)
And Fisher would have been great on a young team that was building towards being a contender in a couple of years, and he let him go.
Posted by: exhelodrvr | July 03, 2007 at 09:56 AM
My lord. I think I just read 100 of the same posts...
Good luck Fish.
Now it'll be 101.
Wes
Posted by: wesjoenixon | July 03, 2007 at 09:56 AM
best wishes to Fisher and his family. our prayers for a speedy and full recovery to his little girl Tatum. Fisher is class and professionalism. hope to see him back to Lakers one day.
Posted by: DR TURK | July 03, 2007 at 10:02 AM
KL - "NOBODY OF STATURE WANTS TO PLAY WITH A SELF-ABSORBED KOBE BRYANT."
First of all, you're trying to prove a negatvie. Second of all, correlation does not equal causation!
You're the guy who see the clouds move and thinks "they must be alive, they move on their own".
You see a rich guy and think "he must be a hard worker".
You see a guy on a winning team and think "he's a winner".
You see a guy on a losing team and think "he's a loser" or "he's not a leader".
You see a team with a crappy front office, and think "nobody wants to play for that team".
Homer(KL): Not a bear in sight. The "Bear Patrol" is working like a charm!
Lisa: That's specious reasoning, Dad.
Homer(KL): Thanks, honey.
Lisa: By your logic, I could claim that this rock keeps tigers away.
Homer(KL): Hmm. How does it work?
Lisa: It doesn't work. It's just a stupid rock!
Homer(KL): Uh-huh.
Lisa: But I don't see any tigers around, do you?
Homer(KL): ... Lisa, I want to buy your rock.
Posted by: Kobe Apologist | July 03, 2007 at 10:05 AM
AK/BK can you please explain how the Jazz released D-Fish from his contract and how he is now a free agent? I thought that was not possible in the NBA? I thought the team and the player had to agree to a buy out of the contract?
It isn't like the NFL where you can just release/waive a player. Can either of you explain the technical specifics of this?
Posted by: kobemania | July 03, 2007 at 10:09 AM
kobemania:
"AK/BK can you please explain how the Jazz released D-Fish from his contract and how he is now a free agent? I thought that was not possible in the NBA? I thought the team and the player had to agree to a buy out of the contract? "
Fisher agreed to the buyout of the contract. He knew that he was going to have to move to one of the major cities in order to receive proper care for his daughter. So, like the extremely good guy that he is, he agreed to nixing the contract.
Posted by: generic_one | July 03, 2007 at 10:16 AM
Hey AK/BK,
Is there any chance you could start a new topic above this one? I'm saddened that people couldn't put the armchair GM stuff aside for one topic and just focus on sending prayers and good wishes to Derek Fisher and his family. Much like Lamar's tragedy last summer, D-Fish is being forced to learn where basketball falls in the hierarchy of the important things in life. Obviously, he made the difficult choice to leave a guaranteed contract to focus on his daughter. I've always admired him, and today, that admiration has increased even more.
I realize our insane Kobe obsession has given us a severe case of tunnel vision, but I find it offensive to read hopeful speculation that his daughter's cancer will somehow bring D-Fish back to the Lakers. I'm sure that's the last thing on his mind. As for cancer, I've been through a similar crisis; my three-year old nephew contracted neuroblastoma, a virulent lymphatic cancer, and he nearly lost his life. Thanks to the oncologists at Children's Hospital, Los Angeles, he is still alive and about to celebrate his 21st birthday. Unfortunately, many of the children on his ward didn't survive, and my heart will never recover from watching so many sweet and beautiful children die on a weekly basis. My nephew went through a year of chemo, radiation and underwent a bone marrow transplant. The consequences were severe: at 20, he is only 5'3", his body has never fully developed, he is sterile, he suffers from a form of epilepsy that is common to childhood cancer survivors, and he will most likely not live a long life.
Cancer is a horrible illness, and retinoblastoma is particularly brutal. I'm sending every hope and prayer for a healthy recovery to Derek Fisher, and I hope you all do as well. Cancer knows no cultural or economic differences, and the Fisher family is learning that that hard way. It also doesn't matter whether you love or hate Kobe Bryant or who will be the starting point guard for the Lakers next season. Try to remember that before we return to our daily obsession with all things purple and gold.
Posted by: Tully Moxness | July 03, 2007 at 10:17 AM
Direct quote from D Fish- "Kobe wants to win. In all the stuff that people have to say about him, a lot of people don't understand his will to win."
Posted by: Kobe Apologist | July 03, 2007 at 10:18 AM
JayJay,
1) Fisher is not a long-term solution.
2) The Lakers are not allowed to have those types of discussions with players on other teams, when they aren't free agents yet. Of course, if you don't mind losing the first round pick for the next 3 years ...
3) At this point with the Lakers, using the entire MLE on Fisher would not be wise, unless they can get him for a max of two years or so.
Posted by: exhelodrvr | July 03, 2007 at 10:18 AM
Sun Yue...very happy with Lakers.
YI Jianlian won't talk, but Sun Yue, Lakers dfraftee is very pleased with being a Lakers.
"It's a good city for me. I know the place; I love the place," he said. "I played there in the ABA the last two seasons.
The people there are nice. They make me feel I'm not thinking about home as much.
The NBA's always been my dream. The Lakers would be good for me. Phil Jackson is the coach with the triangle offense. They need a bigger player like me to run it."
http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/story?id=2924163&sport=nba&ft=ss&print=yes
Posted by: jorema | July 03, 2007 at 10:20 AM
Ex,
The Shaq thing was a toss up to me. Again, who knows what would have happened had he re-signed Shaq in regards to Kobe leaving. If presented with an old and untradeable (and really expensive Shaq) or the younger Kobe, I think he made the right choice. I guess it boils down to whether or not Kobe would have stayed a Laker. If Buss knew 100% that Kobe would re-sign if Shaq was extended, to keep pushing for titles together, I think he would have re-signed Shaq. That's why I think there was something that led to Buss feeling that Kobe would leave if Shaq left.
As for Fisher's deal, I think Dr. Buss made the right choice. At the time he was still operating under the clear cap space plan (ahemcrapahem) and that contract was a killer (still is).
I don't blame Dr. Buss for not wanting to go into the luxury tax, it's his business. But at the end of the day, if going into the luxury tax would make financial sense I think he would do it.
Posted by: Andrew Z | July 03, 2007 at 10:22 AM
Tully, how many times can you say that you wish Fisher well? Does the 30th time mean the person who posted it for the 30th time is more genuine than the one who posted it for the 15th? Just because I post something about James Posey having the same agent as Fisher doesn't mean I don't wish Fisher well or all I think about is the basketball ramifications. How many times does it have to be posted before we can talk bball again? I feel bad for the guy but according to you, I should still be posting well wishes for Odom and his situation last year. At what point is it ok to move on?
Posted by: TaosHum | July 03, 2007 at 10:26 AM
I hope everything goes well for the Fisher family. I hope Lakers management and players call Fisher for support. I hope they can work out something in the future with Fisher. They will get Garnett. LAkers 2007-2008: Kobe, Garnett, Farmer/Fisher, Walton/Radmanovic, Mihm/Turiaf/Gasol
Posted by: DRTURK | July 03, 2007 at 10:34 AM
exhelodrvr, don't you think Fisher is the perfect solution for the Lakers? He's someone Kobe respects, he's a stabilizing influence in the locker room, he knows the offense, and as far as the PG situation, I'm thinking Crittenton will eventually be the starter with Farmar backing him up, so this buys us some time to let Crittenton develop and learn the ropes and Farmar could also gain tremendous insight into how a smaller guard gets by in this league from Fisher. As far as Fisher, he could take off a series of games here and there to be there with his daughter and Farmar and Crittenton would then get that game experience without us having to fully depend on them.
Did I mention I wish Fisher well? I guess it's not ok to discuss bball unless you wish Fisher well...
Posted by: TaosHum | July 03, 2007 at 10:35 AM
Derek Fisher, a whole lotta love goes out to you and your family.
These posts here are the ones I wish the players actually did read,
because you all (Laker Fans) have huge hearts and it restores my belief
in the human race to see such an out-pour of love and kindness.
DFish all the best to you, love and prayers to Tatum.
Derek was a great teammate and although he deserved Payton’s minutes in the last season here, we hardly knew it from his reactions. A huge friend of Kobe's, the Fish is class and has delivered in many ways to support and encourage this team throughout the years. His heart is right there next to Ronny Turiaf, another great friend to Kobe. It always amazes me that the hardest working guys can somehow have mutual respect and admiration for each other and somehow there are so many others that get singled out...and ridiculed for lack of effort.
Hmmmm interesting theory. Hard work rewards confidence and trust in relationships, while laziness and lackadaisical attitudes and aloof personalities are spited for their lack of commitment. Damn that sure does sum up Kobe and MJ vs. everyone they have ever played with. Derek was a great role model and is still worth bringing to the Lakers especially to set the tone for a positive working environment. God Knows Kobe and Phil have had the right motives but without actual examples on the team of what a good teammate is, we have lost a lot of love in the locker room. Kobe is a great player but has never been a great person to get along with, way too self-centered. Guys like Fish can buffer his arrogance and keep others from taking so much of the brutal criticism so harshly. Best of Luck to you and yours Derek please come home.
Posted by: Pete Maguire | July 03, 2007 at 10:37 AM
Mr. Fisher,
You are the Class Act of the league and every single NBA player should strive to be as remarkable a person as yourself. We wish only the best for you and your family in this time of unimaginable angst and uncertainty. You are a true champion and have always been an inspiration to me. May God bless you and your family.
Joe
Posted by: BerkeleyLaker | July 03, 2007 at 10:38 AM
JayJay,
Nobody, including the Jazz, seemed to see the Fisher situation coming. And the discussions apparently didn't begin until last Sunday, three days after the draft. To fault Kupchak for not drafting with Fisher's situation in mind is ridiculous.
AK
Posted by: Andrew Kamenetzky | July 03, 2007 at 10:41 AM
Best of luck to Fish and family
Posted by: Kiwi | July 03, 2007 at 10:41 AM
I've had the pleasure of meeting Derek. It's no news flash that he's a gentleman. "Gentleman", a word almost never associated with an athlete that isn't a golfer. He emits a calm that is palpable which the present Lakers could use.
He's a Kobe vet. He has Kobe's respect. I've said it before, but I think it's a distinction that means something, especailly now.
He's an option you can't ignore in crunch time. He's a voice on the court, a guy that gets calls, the benefit of the doubt. He's loaded in categories that stats don't measure. You can talk dollars and contracts all day but this man should have remained a Laker.
Typical Derek Fisher, he's doing the right thing now. He's tending to what's important. His daughter's condition could last beyond his playing window. We can be confident that if he does decide to play, that will also be the right thing to do and the Lakers would be lucky to have him back.
Posted by: Vman | July 03, 2007 at 10:50 AM
KL, I've made my peace with you. In fact I've started to read your posts cause they were shorter, but today's (yesterday's?) is shameful and classless.
You can hate on Kobe all you want, you have just as much a right to hate him as we do to love him. But that's no reason to do it on this thread. We're all here in support of Fish; the man is going through a lot right now, and even though this thread will probably never reach him, I'd like to think our positive support and thoughts somehow do. Your thoughts are your prerogative, but I had hopes that you'd know better (unlike someone else).
Posted by: Faith | July 03, 2007 at 10:51 AM
RONLO
“KL=johnny buss!!. He hates Kobe because jerry buss gave kobe and 23 yo blonds more attention than him”
I thought it was Jim Buss? Either way, pretty funny. Think Jerry’s going senile with the penile?
THA SHOW
“no asian bias whatsoever, right?”
at least David isn’t hiding behind a screen name like “KL” or “tha show”……..kidding. don't get mad.
WOW
“You both know Kobe will be on the lakers team, so evantually yall don get what you want.”
I actually want kobe to remain a laker so kobe can finish what he started (breaking up the dynasty so kobe can be the man) and lead the lakers. kobe in my mind is a coward. kobe broke the cookie jar and now is running away to let someone else, anybody, to take the hit. Kobe figured that once shaq was out, kobe would lead the lakers back to 3 more championships and when it became apparent that it takes a complete team and a winner/leader to win at the highest level, kobe stuck his tail between his skinny legs and now wants to play for the Bulls, Phoenix or Dallas. Why doesn’t kobe ask Stern to put kobe on the Spurs squad of 2007 as a de facto contributor to the Spurs championship run because of the laker downfall? Hell just erase the history book and put Kobe on the Spurs squad in lieu of Bowen.
“You two are great motivators for people that love challenges.”
You're assuming your hero remains a laker. Hell, kobe won’t relent on his trade stance and you’re still kissing the dude’s butt.
“Just know someone is working to shut your mouths up.”
I want to eat crow my friend.
“While you sit and type on your comp, the person that has to walk the walk is preparing to walk the walk, and we will see when november comes.”
3 years going on 4 in the kobe-era.
“At least you know how to take order, proves the lil bit*h you are.”
what happen to the last post about "never" responding to me again? already backsliding? admit it, you love me like i love kobe?
KOBE APOLOGIST=KOBE’S TOILET
Homer-Lisa skit was da shizzle. man, I’m going to miss hammering on kobe once he’s out like trout. at least I’ll be able to enjoy rooting for the lakers again without having to feel like a sellout.
Posted by: KLBeast | July 03, 2007 at 10:51 AM
exhelodrv,
it did not make sense for Dr.Buss to resign Shaq from a financial sense, for reasons AndrewZ has well detailed. But it is KG now. Dr.Buss, I am sure, would not think twice about it, given the current picture. He has accomplished (financially) what he wanted to post-Shaq, thanks to Kobe creating some excitement all by himself, and now it's time to reinvest to win titles.
I think one of the things about the Shaq trade was/is that LamarOdom has not exactly turned out to be what the Lakers wanted him to be.
Posted by: ravi | July 03, 2007 at 10:51 AM
Tao,
"don't you think Fisher is the perfect solution for the Lakers?"
He has slowed down somewhat defensively, and is on the "old" side.
He would definitely be an upgrade, but not long term. I wouldn't give him the MLE, unless it is only for a couple of years. His attitude would be great to have.
Posted by: exhelodrvr | July 03, 2007 at 10:52 AM
Well, with each new day, things continue to change in the NBA, meaning that the plans for the Lakers must also adjust and change daily.
Derek Fisher will always be a Laker. He sweat and bled for the Lakers for several years. He was a gentleman both on and off the court. I must admit that the thought of him ever leaving the Lakers never crossed my mind until the day before he signed with the Warriors. Although I am still unsettled as to the true reason for his departure as well as his relationship with Kobe Bryant, the thought of him returning HOME brings a smile to my face. If Stromile Swift, Eddie Jones, and others can return back to the team that has been their home for so long, shouldn't Fisher have the same opportunity? Selfishly I must admit that I see this as a great thing for the Lakers and Kobe Bryant. For the Lakers, it would be instant positivity, which this organization can use a lot of right now. For Kobe, not only would he regain a past partner that understands him and has been to war with him successfully, he would also regain a veteran championship tested player. For Fisher, perhaps the return back to a period of happier times will do his heart well. Perhaps being in LA will also be good for his faily and offer more convenience with monitoring his daughter.
Now....that being said, I belieev that the Lakers should work out a deal that will be beneficial for the Lakers and Fisher. Instead of letting the talks die as they did when he went to the Warriors, they need to really hear what he is saying and do their best to resign him. I don't think that the full MLE is necessary, but half of it would be. The other half, could then be used to sign a reserve big man.
The second thing I would do is that I would attempt to work a trade with the Rockets for Shane Battier. I would offer Sun Yue, Sasha Vujacic, Brian Cook and Vladimir Radmanovic for Shane Battier and Bob Sura. The Rockets have said that they could use more consistent perimeter shooting from forward, plus they seemingly need to replace Juwan Howard. Sun Yue should fit in well with the Asian Community in Houston since Yao's arrival. Plus, he is very familiar with playing with Yao.
Lakers new roster at this point would look like this:
PG: Fisher, Farmar, Crittenton
SG: Bryant, Evans
SF: Battier, Walton
PF: Odom, Turiaf, Gasol (If he comes over.)
C: Bynum, Brown, Mihm
The Lakers would still have a little of their MLE (left from the Fisher deal), and minimum contracts or trades to finish up the roster. At the very least, they could start the season like this. That would be considerable improvements at each of the troubled areas.
Posted by: JJ | July 03, 2007 at 10:57 AM
exhelodrvr,
Don't give him all of the MLE, but part of it. I have a feeling that Fisher's decisions now won't have much to do with the money. The last thing on his mind is money. He has a more pressing matter that has put life in clear perspective for him. I'm not saying that the Lakers should abuse that, BUT realize that this isn't about financial gain. I would give him about 75% of the contract he was currently serving. That would be decent considering the situation. I wuld make it heavily weighted on the second and third year, in order to leave room to get a second player on the same exception. Forinstance, give him 3mil/yr 1, and increase it 1mil the each of the next 2 years following with player options. That would give him a 3yr./12mil package.
Use Fisher as a bridge for Farmar and Crittenton just like Harper was for him. It makes good sense. He could be for them what McKie was supose to be. However, he is actually healthy and already knows the offense and the main people on the team. He could tell them how to play with Kobe or what to do in what situation.
San Antonio did that with Avery and Parker. It just makes sense when you have the opportunity to do that.
Posted by: JJ | July 03, 2007 at 11:07 AM
Tao and Ex,
Fisher would be a great addition on nothing longer than a two-year deal. Obviously, his number one option on selecting a city to play in is the medical care for his daughter, closeness to a championship contender will probably not be considered. The fact that Fisher was a Laker for so long, is familiar with the city, and LA has good health care, it seems like a perfect fit.
I don't know if it would be the smartest move for the Lakers to give the full MLE or even a major fraction because it would close the door to getting anyone else. However, if they did it I wouldn't mind that much because I could see the rationale behind it.
Posted by: Andrew Z | July 03, 2007 at 11:07 AM
HAHAH what idiot suggested having the Chinese National Team as the Lakers??? Yi Jingaling, Yao Ming and Sun Yoo? are you kidding? They cant even beat summer league teams.
I rather see them assemble spain.
Drafted: Rudy Fernandez, Marc Gasol
Trade for Pau Gasol
Trade for Juan Calderon
Sign Juan Carols Navarro
PG Calderon/Navarro
SG Kobe/Fernandez
SF Luke
PF Odom/Garbajosa
C Gasol/Gasol
haha see if we can get garbajosa with calderon
haha now that team would be the USA all stars..haha
Posted by: I Miss Van Exel and Eddie Jones | July 03, 2007 at 11:07 AM
Well... vs. picking up Blake or Franchise for the full MLE, Fisher would seem to be the 1st choice. He may have slowed down but I'm thinking Crittenton, after he gets this year under his belt should be starting the next season so at that point, Fisher steps back, plays around 20 some odd minutes/game and starts moving towards coaching and what better situation for him to move in that direction than under Phil? Having a player/coach like Fisher would be invaluable not only to the younger guys but as a go-between for the rest of the team and Kobe. If Kobe decides to stay because Fisher is here, then Fisher is worth every penny and more the Lakers would be paying him.
Posted by: TaosHum | July 03, 2007 at 11:10 AM
AK,
I'm referring to ridiculous posts such as the numerous ones above where people are personally insulting each other. None of that has to do with sports, the NBA, or the Lakers.
It's just really annoying but I understand you can't review every post.
Thanks!
Posted by: EastCoastJessie | July 03, 2007 at 11:10 AM
"I think one of the things about the Shaq trade was/is that LamarOdom has not exactly turned out to be what the Lakers wanted him to be. "
I nominate Ravi-olli for the Nobel Prize. Hell, the Clips didn't want Lamar and we trade Lamar+Butler=Shaq? Why again? That's right, so kobe can be the "man" in LA and not have Shaq taint kobe's legacy as the Biggest Second Banana of all time. Second Banana you say? Yes! How many championships have kobe led as the #1? it rhymes with: I would like to have a HERO sandwich for lunch.
Posted by: KLBeast | July 03, 2007 at 11:12 AM
I have an adjustment to the Battier Trade.
Lakers offer Sun Yue, Sasha Vujacic, Maurice Evans, Brian Cook and future draft picks for Shane Battier and Bonzi Wells.
If the Lakers sign Fisher for AT LEAST part of the MLE, look at what the Lakers would have.
PG: Fisher, Farmar, Crittenton
SG: Bryant, Wells
SF: Battier, Walton
PF: Odom, Radmanovic, Turiaf
C: Bynum, Brown, Mihm
That team is suppose to be much better than the one that just exited the first round again. It would probably totally surprise the NBA if the Lakers were able to pull off these changes. In essence, all they would have done is made 2 serious moves, but that would be enough. I know some are going to totally rip this up and say either that Fisher is too old, Houston won't let Battier go, or something else. I'm sure something will be said to criticize this deal. Perhaps it will be said that Wells is no good, or that Bynum Brown and Mihm aren't enough at center. Well, I believe that it COULD work and I believe that it is worth a try. Considering the position that the Lakers are in right now, it is a reasonable way to improve the team enough to become more competitive at the very least.
Posted by: JJ | July 03, 2007 at 11:20 AM
EastCoastJessie,
I hear what you're saying and BK and I don't like the personal insults, either. But like you acknowledged, we don't have time to peruse each comment heavily. We're mostly looking for objectionable language or inappropriate content that immediately jumps out. And beyond that, we've made the plea to keep it civil on more than one occasion. There's only so much we can do. Everyone here is an adult (or at least over 13. haha) and we feel they should be treated as such. The first step towards keeping it a lively but respectful debate starts with the blogosphere. If it's important to the general readership, you'll take it upon yourselves to help out.
AK
Posted by: Andrew Kamenetzky | July 03, 2007 at 11:24 AM
Ventriloquist,
I think Wow has surpassed you as ripping me the biggest a$$hole on this blog. LOL.
Posted by: KLBeast | July 03, 2007 at 11:25 AM
KL,
I don't know why i'm doing this again, but here I go. SHAQ IS THE REASON SHAQ ISN'T IN LA, NOT KOBE!!!!!! Shaq no longer wanted to play here, and be Kobe's 2nd banana. Instead of being the good team player, that you always tout him as, and accepting a new role, he decided to embarass the owner, and demand a HUGE pay raise he didn't deserve. I understand you don't like Kobe, and that's fine, but continually blaming him for Shaq leaving is really old, and not true.
Posted by: Weave-Man | July 03, 2007 at 11:28 AM
AK
Can we have another thread? I don't feel right talking about ball here, it's Fish's "wish you all the best" thread. Where essentially, basketball is really just a little thing called entertainment.
Posted by: Faith | July 03, 2007 at 11:32 AM
KL:
"Hell, the Clips didn't want Lamar"
Woah, woah buddy. Usually I let some of your comments that I disagree with slide, but this one? That's crazy talk. Donald Sterling is a Scrooge and that's the reason Lamar isn't on the Clippers.
Posted by: generic_one | July 03, 2007 at 11:35 AM
"...at least I’ll be able to enjoy rooting for the lakers again without having to feel like a sellout."-KLBeast
Unfortunately, that's a profound statement.
I'm a Lakerfan first. Kobefan second. I'll never sellout my team.
I wish D Fish the best. I can't see him changing his mind as far as playing with Kobe though. I wish he would.
Go Lakers!
Posted by: Rocky | July 03, 2007 at 11:36 AM
Weave-Man
Hey, i appreciate the civility and will agree to disagree with you on Shaq. I'll note that kobe calling Buss an "idiot" and Kupchak names is no acceptable. I'll concede that Shaq didn't help is cause and I understand why some LA fans would find Shaq objectionable. Fair enough? I respect your POV and won't get into it with you today. I'm having too much fun with Wow. Man, did you see him/her rip me a new one? ouch, i won't be able to sit down for a week...........LOL.
Posted by: KLBeast | July 03, 2007 at 11:39 AM