Sometimes, these jokes just write themselves
And with the tension permeating through Laker Land these days, it probably wouldn't kill the blogosphere to have a laugh at the expense of the dude with a thousand "Big" nicknames (although it appears "The Big Ironic" is in on the punchline). And speaking of laughs, this parody is good for a few.
As for the source of the previously cited tension, it's been pretty quiet on the Kobe front these days. Some folks saying Kobe's a brat of Hilton-esque proportions, others claiming that's all irrelevant because it would be insane to punch his ticket out of Newport. But all in all, not a whole lot of fresh (or even recycled) perspective making the rounds.
In "news potentially relating directly-ish to the Lakers," however, Kevin Garnett put the Kibosh on a rumored trade to Beantown. Apparently, the notion of freezing his ass off while losing remains unappealing even in a brand new city. Word around the campfire says he'd sanction a move to Phoenix, but it remains to be seen whether the Suns would part with Amare Stoudemire or draw the line at Shawn Marion. Should the latter player not be enough for Minny, would KG try to sell him GM on a trade to the hated Lakers? Or would KG remain a Wolf, perhaps opening the door for the Matrix in purple and gold? Of course, until Jerry Buss gets an indication that Kobe wants to stick around, any potential moves may be on hold.
Oh, by the by, in case anyone's forgotten, there's a draft next week. SI's analyzing Laker needs and making first and second round predictions.
Kobe is in town and reading this blog......he has read the good and the bad comments....so for a change, let's be positive that may be a good first step that could improve the team. Try to suggest new ideas rather than delving on personalities of bloggers or fans who won't affect the team at all.
http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-lakers23jun23,1,4731242.story?coll=la-headlines-sports&ctrack=1&cset=true
Posted by: Edwin Gueco | June 23, 2007 at 08:34 AM
Dave M.,
Like what Fatty said we don't have any hopes of getting any #1 dr/pick because it has been dealt with a long time ago by Mitch. Well, we also need a SG if Kobe does not play. haha! I erred when I said Rudy was a PG, I mean a SG but for old folks, they are just the same, a guard is a guard, if you can shoot then you can dribble and pass. Like for example Magic J he can be a PG, SG, SF. PF and a Center!
Posted by: Edwin Gueco | June 23, 2007 at 08:47 AM
JL, Edwin
The Hoops article makes some interesting points.
1) TV revenue. No Kobe = no tickets + no TV revenue stream, which hurts more than the tickets. You can work your trade scenarios till you're blind but the loss of revenue that the org would suffer in letting Kobe walk makes equal value impossible.
2) Timetable. if Kobe is to be traded it has to happen quickly or the war of words will wear on like Iraq. Since this is a trust issue, Kobe will not trust the org to trade him, even if they say they will, so he won't shut up. It won't happen quickly= it probably won't happen...this year.
3) KG No KG no Kobe no franchise. The sun will not come out, birds will no longer sing. Until next season.
4) Conlcusion: Art of War: delay, gain strength
The truth is, Kobe's max value to himself and the league is with the Lakers. If it gets ugly David Stern will get involved with Phil Knight (CEO Nike) waitin' in the hallway. There's too much money involved. The NBA is a business built by players makin' a $1000 a sesaon back when. It's time to give thanks and work with people who are dying to work with you.
Posted by: Vman | June 23, 2007 at 09:13 AM
Man I have to say, Kobe knows how to get what he wants. I wish I had that kind of power. Everybody that is mad at Kobe is jus envious. I mean the boy worked his way into getting drafted by the Lakers. Tell me that is not power.
Posted by: wow | June 23, 2007 at 09:23 AM
Mitchell,
thanks again for overgeneralizing.
since i advocate trading kobe at kobe's request (not my own), i must be a huge fan of kupchak, buss, etc.
yep, you nailed it again.
i've been crucifying the lakers fo since mid january. check the archives.
however, dr. buss seems content with his son and kupchak at the helm. that is pretty obvious.
the lakers fo is a joke. sound like a jim buss/mitch kupchak fan to you?
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shaq demanded a trade. it happened. life moved on.
kobe demanded a trade. it is to be determined. live will move on.
were we better off trading shaq? um, no.
will we be better off trading kobe? i doubt it.
dynasties come to an end. jordan retired twice. scottie pippen left the bulls for the rockets.
these things have their expiration dates.
THE BOTTOM LINE THAT MANY ARE AVOIDING IS: that kobe wants out. he has said it on many occasions. this is not a rumor. there is no inside source. these are words spoken directly by kobe bryant.
it is that simple.
kobe wants out, and it's a shame how the inept front office is a reason why. and it's a shame kobe couldn't wait a couple of months to see if reinforcements were brought in BEFORE DEMANDING A TRADE.
the shaq/kobe cycle is nearing its end. it sucks, but that's life.
the lakers will most likely now go through a transition period similar to the 90's.
and hopefully, we will one day go off for another run of titles.
and that is what being a laker fan is all about. knowing when your run is over, FOR WHATEVER REASON, and accepting it. many are simply in denial when it comes to kobe. dude wants NO PART OF THE LAKE SHOW. period.
i take the good with the bad.
i love three peating, but i also love rooting on the lake show in december.
i am here for the long haul.
if an ownership change is on the horizon, i will see that through as well.
am i happy/content with the current status of the lakers? of course not.
but i am not going to let a brief period of mediocre years end my support for the lake show.
i've seen great players play and i've seen them go.
how many of you laker fans knew kobe bryant would eventually take the helm of magic johnson? when magic retired, i thought it was the end of the world.
little did i know that 8 years later, we would draft kobe bryant and with shaq o'neal go on a run of 3 titles.
so if kobe bryant leaves, who is to say that the lakers will not eventually acquire another player of kobe's stature & appeal?
some may call that wishful thinking.
i call it being a diehard fan of a team that you believe will turn things around (like they have consistently proven for the past 30 years).
cheers to all laker fans, even the kobe diehards.
Posted by: tha show | June 23, 2007 at 09:27 AM
WHAT TO MAKE OF THE MITCH-KOBE MEETING
If no one is talking about what was said in Friday's meeting between Kobe and Mitch, that's probably a good thing. The fact that they met face to face, rather than talking by phone, is likely also a good thing.
The history of Kobe is about two things: (1) He's always had something to prove, whether to himself or to others, and (2) he doesn't like to bend to authority figures. It's not easy for Kobe to trust. What we've been seeing from Kobe since the close-out of the Phoenix series is really nothing new. He is rebellious when he is not in control, and he mouths off instead of checking himself.
Is it possible that everyone has made too big a deal of all the ranting? Have we just seen Kobe expressing himself the way we always have? Kobe is someone who has always thought he knows the best way to win.
But what we don't know is which accommodation was made in Friday's meeting. Did Kobe back off a little and apologize to Mitch for his tirade, or did Mitch and Kobe agree on how he would be moved?
After all the press and with all the turmoil, at this point almost any resolution would be positive.
Thinking back to last season, I think we can all remember as fans how good we felt the next morning after a Laker victory, and how miserable we felt after a loss. Considering the number of games when Kobe carried the team on his back to achieve a victory, it is hard to imagine how the team could achieve more victories in the season to come without him.
Even the Kobe haters can't blame him for Kwame's dropped passes, Andrew's second-half slump, or Cook and Walton's poor defense. And getting back to the trust issue, when Kobe looked around the floor last season, who could he trust to make the shot if he didn't take it himself? He made a good-faith effort early in the season to be a play-maker, not a shooter, but down the stretch (except for Lamar) it seemed nobody was willing or able to step up with any consistency.
The Organization's failures have been well documented on this Blog and it is as hard for us as it is for Kobe to trust the Front Office to do the right thing. But that's where we are, just days ahead of the draft, and a couple weeks before the signing and trading season officially begins.
Not that many seasons ago, it was Phil and Kobe who didn't want to deal with each other. If anything positive came out of last season, it's not only that Phil and Kobe were able to repair their relationship, but that they actually found a way to make it a strong one, and to trust and depend on each other. Some of us can only hope that Kobe has gotten his anger and frustration with the Organization out of his system, looked around at the other possibilities, and realized that at least for now he is better off where he is. Whether that's the case we don't know. But maybe there is hope.
Posted by: Rick Friedman | June 23, 2007 at 09:31 AM
GUNNER24,
Still haven't figured out how to turn off CAPS LOCK? Keep looking... :)
KLBEAST,
Does KL stand for Kobe Lover?
Here's the first rule of dialog - if you want to have a "conversation", make sure you answer the questions that are asked of you. Else accept the fact that you are just an opinonated ignoramus who keeps blabbering on without ever bringing anything USEFUL to the "conversation"...
I'm sure you are an expert in all matters relating to poop, smell etc. - but those aren't things anyone else on this blog is interested in :)
And another thing - this is 2007. SHAQ WAS TRADED long ago. Give it up...move on...get a life...
Posted by: hariyahu | June 23, 2007 at 09:32 AM
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No Way Peace,
"You have it all wrong. Kobe is not the poster boy of these sad times."
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No, I have it right. Kobe is the face of the organization. He's unhappy and wants to be traded. I said he's the "poster boy," not the reason for their woes. A reason, but not THE reason. If you read my post again, you'll get it the second time around.
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It's the BUSS ORGANIZATION that started this spiral down the day Jerry West left.
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When did I not say that? I've been saying that all along, if you've been following my posts. To deny that Kobe shares some blame for this spiral is naive, but that's for another time.
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You guys are stuck on stupid (PEACE IN PARTICULAR) to believe without an organizational change there will be improvement.
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No need to call anyone out, Cowboy, There wouldn't have been a need to if you just read my posts correctly.
I know you're upset, but stick to the issues.
The problem does emanate from the top down. I think the Busses have to establish a strong, hands-free approach to running the FO. Mitch has made some dumb calls in the last several years, but the Shaq trade, which was forced on him, basically did him in from a cap perspective for the last 3 seasons and to an extent this next one too. Short of selling the team, Dr. Buss needs to establish order again. On that we agree.
Posted by: Peace | June 23, 2007 at 09:46 AM
Can you guess, who said this?
"The fallacy of your premise is that kobe is a “man”. At best, kobe is a little KBiatch who needs to be biatch slapped back to reality. i hope kobe turns an ankle or hyper-extends a knee. I call on Bruce Bowen to stick his foot out just a little more the next time kobe takes a jump shot after dribbleing away 16 seconds off the shot clock."
This is not a normal bloggers comment. Comments like these show a very troubled and emotionally disturbed individual.
First, his/her view of women. Very demeaning and derogatory. Has no respect for women. Seventy years ago, few would've noticed this anti-social behavior, but in this enlightened age, its rather disturbing that someone would carry such predjudice against women. And for what reason, simply because they are women.
Second, his/her view of race. His/her irrational hatred of a black man. Its obsessive and hate filled. Numerous posting at all hours and at all times of the same vitrolic nature. Only one mind set, this black man (less than human) should be punished. He should be physically hurt is very disturbing. His/her obsession has now lead him/her to a violent conclusion with this black man. Jealousy is usually the cause of most hatred. Most racists are troubled with a successful black man. As Magic said, they are troubled because the man is rich, famous, and black. What else would explain someone's obsession to post the same vitroilic posts. Filled with illogical conclusions, with racial undertones, and to post them over and over again every day, all day long. (Please, if someone would give me his/her employers address, I think the employer would be well served knowing how much company time is being wasted and for what pupose)
Third, "living a lie" Pretending to be a Laker fan to gain confidence from fellow bloggers. Wishing a player to be hurt on another team is considered in sports by most to be an unacceptable behavior. Wishing someone to be hurt on your own team makes absolutely no sense, unless that wasn't your team in the first place.
This is just one paragraph being examined. Multiply this 100's of times and a clear picture becomes evident. Hatred is not a nice thing. It brings out the worse in human emotions. Those who use it to propagate ideas should be recognized for what they are doing and appropiately sanctioned.
Nervously replying, in self defense, " I was just joshing with ya" or " you are attacking me and not the facts" shows further the shortcomings of the individual and the cowardly nature of this person not coming to the realization of his own faults.
Fatty
Posted by: Fatty | June 23, 2007 at 09:50 AM
V-MAN,
I'd imagine Kobe's value to the league would certainly be fine if he was in Chicago: And if for some ungodly reason he landed in NYC, Stern and Phil Knight would be doing cart-wheels - his value to Nike and especically his value to the league would actualyl increase....
Posted by: 10milliondollarzen | June 23, 2007 at 10:02 AM
Hey Peace,
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I hear you on the anti Kobe first and Lakers second fans. I AGREE. However, how can the Lakers rebuild with no front office organization. Have you seen the title of Sport Illustrated this wk It's about the SPURS ORGANIZATION.
If you want another example look up the PATRIOTS.
We are miles behind that type of structure.
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You're preaching to the choir here. As I see it, the organization is beset by a lack of clear hierarchy and willingness to collaborate and work together, as well as communicate clearly. Too many egos. The antithesis of the Spurs, who build with a clear plan and purpose and draft well. Ditto for the Pats, who look for value and compatibility within the system. The superstars, Duncan and Brady, respectively, excel within the system and give their lesser teammates confidence that they can carry out their roles in the system. But the teamwork emanates from the TOP down.
Kobe has failed to lead his team largely because the FO seems not to have carried out its duty to set the right tone and perform up to standards. I get that. You get that. WE get that.
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We're wasting too much time on Kobe and not talking about our broken beloved Lakers organization which has spiraled down since Jerry West left. We PUNT during every single draft because we don't think a player can help us now. We don't have a plan.
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Well, what WAS the plan? If you believe what Kobe said he was told, the plan was to remodel the contender around Kobe, instead of around Shaq. But if you look at what has been done since, turns out that that they were trying to find new talent to bring along while Kobe was the only certifiable superstar on the floor, surrounded by role players and makeshift starters. They tried to rebuild AND reload. That was a mistake. The Lakers' success v. Phoenix in '06 may have led them to believe that was working. It wasn't.
We HAVE to focus on Kobe. HE IS THE FRANCHISE. If he leaves, then rebuilding is the only viable alternative. But this Kobe drama is bringing to light the fractures in the organization that was once the envy of the entire pro sports world.
Rest assured, on this issue, we agree more than we disaagree.
Posted by: Peace | June 23, 2007 at 10:09 AM
This is what I make of the meeting between management and Kobe. It's the first step into what I wrote yesterday.
"Second fold: Even if Phil Jackson is fire Kobe Bryant isn't going to all of a sudden cjhange his mind. Kobe Bryant it going to stick to his guns on principle alone. But I believe that Kobe will show up to camp in Oct. if Jackson is gone. But he's not going to say anything to imply that he's happy. This thing is now about pride and human dignity. He'll come to camp if Jackson is fired and the Lakers need to rely on the idea that with improvements at the 1 and 3 spots will lead to an elite club, which will make Kobe realize that we're going in the right direction.
But under no circumatance is Phil Jackson a part of it. I, personally, would be deeply disappointed in Kobe Bryant if he came to camp with Phil Jackson stil the coach."
mike
Posted by: Michael Teniente | June 23, 2007 at 10:21 AM
Fatty -
Oh my God do you actually READ those hate posts? I thought you were better than that.
Posted by: Jay Jay | June 23, 2007 at 10:40 AM
Michael A. write:
"Jorema, Sally Jenkins is a well-respected, talented sports writer. The fact that you don't agree with some of the things she has to say, doesn't invalidate that. Actually, from my perspective, it validates it, since you're clearly looking at things from a certain prism."
My focus in this piece about Kobe that she wrote is:
---Uninterested style. Boring. Blatant.
---She repeat the usual stereotypes. She present a face of the problem.
----She comment: "Buss doesn't have to prove his competitive desire to Bryant". She is a ignorant if she doesn't know that the talent level of this team in the last three years had being useless.
This actual team reflects Buss personality: HE doesn't know about talent. Jenkins is giving Buss all the credit for the Lakers good maneuvers in team success, but she doesn't know that all that happen with Jerry West in the front office.
Jenkins doesn't mention the childish behavior of Buss son's that are now in charge, in this saga.
Also, by now the video of Kobe is just ruled stupid by most writers because doesn't have any thing we doesn't know already.
She write:
"it’s still not at all clear what it will take to make Bryant professionally happy. The guess here is that the entity Bryant's really unhappy with is himself."
Another silly statements. Not only silly, also a false statement directed to seed image of a bad guy in the mind of readers.
Let read more: "In either case, if the Lakers are smart they will stand firm and refuse Bryant's demand.:
Really Sally Jenkins?
If this Kobe is a cancer, a renegade, a bad seed....Isn't, in the end, a better choice for Lakers' franchise to get rid of him at all cost, right now? Why delay the exit of this despicable player. With all the description you give, Sally Jenkins, the fools here are the Lakers for wanting to get attach to this guy. Why then, you don't question the judgment of the franchise?
Jenkins also whine that Lakers won't get equal value for him. Equal value? For this crap of person and player, anything else will be better, right Jenkins?
More from her:
Some are thinking, "If he's that good, why doesn't he get his team past the first round of the playoffs?"
Another silly question take directly from Kobe heaters that by now is too stupid to sustain.
If he is that bad…Lakers will be happy to get rid of him.
We know that she will take side with white corporate America instead of defending a black guy who challenge it, after she is paid by them. Washington Post news and columnists are all about that. In all her rants, short sided paragraphs we can read his message between lines:
How come this despicable black guy will to talk loudly in our face, after that criminal intent of dishonor of one of our little princess in Colorado. Mr. Bryant, Not matter what, anything you say or do, doesn’t have the benefit of the doubt. In our court, you will never be discharged. We promise you that.
Posted by: jorema | June 23, 2007 at 10:49 AM
Vman,
You are the financial genius in the blog. Evrything said are the best financial forecast for Kobe and the Lakers. They have to clean their act together before it is too late. People's satisfaction, there is such a thing as diminishing returns, whatever you say or do people are no longer interested.
Another theory, Kobe got pissed off by the kibitzing insider and the unorthodox young owner and GM, so he sailed the trade winds. As he was avoiding the Laker monsters, here encounters the vultures of the media making money from his comments: Bill Plaschke, T. J. Simers, Joe McDonald, Petros(Greek), Lee Hacksaw, Huntington Boys videojokers and the biggest vulture of them all, Ric Buecher, the Kobe expert. (SIC)
Kid, you maybe too focused on your front, lest you forgot to watch your back. Since you don't trust anybody, ask Vanessa for advice.
Right now, the grass is always greener on the other side until he experiences the torment winds of Chicago.
Posted by: Edwin Gueco | June 23, 2007 at 10:49 AM
Rick,
After I read this morning about the Mitch-Kobe meeting I felt very optimistic something good will happen. At least I am trying to be positive.
I think if Kobe is so keen in his trade demand, the Lakers FO would be avoiding him these days. So the fact Kobe is talking with them is a good sign that something is on the works. Maybe a KG trade to LA. Wouldn't that be sweet?
Lakers is a soap opera, drama ball-club. So I wouldn't be surprise that a major trade happens this of season and everything is OK in Lakerland.
I'll keep optimistic from now, even though sometimes is dam hard. I have faith that soon the Lakers will be contender again and we all will be cheering for them with gusto.
Posted by: gugy | June 23, 2007 at 10:54 AM
10milliondollarzen
Yes, obviously NYC and Chicago are major markets, NYC more than Chicago, but I said, if it continues to get ugly, meaning a Kobe DNP 08-09. Jerry, Phil and Dave wouldn't sit still for that. You're right that Stern wouldn't care and Phil would be thrilled with NY but how's that going to happen?
This is pointless, but the league needs a protagonist / antagonist. LA's one of the places the nation loves to love and hate when they're winning. There's something about all that loud money at center court that brings out the venom in people. The Finals have been missing that and you're right, NYC would fill the bill but they can't afford the asking price.
Jerry Buss holds the signed contract and considering the impending loss of revenue, wouldn't be compensated for a move to NYC and not compensated enough for a move to Chicago. For Jerry, Kobe's value is best where it is right now. 2 years from now, at 31 he'll be worth 22 million off the cap. In 2 years, like Shaquille, he might have to take a cut in pay to land in the place of his choice.
Posted by: Vman | June 23, 2007 at 11:15 AM
Rick Friedman. Well written thoughts. I completely agree with you.
Enough with the negative stuff. Whether Kobe stays or goes or even if the Lakers don't win another title for ten years, I'll continue to be a Lakers fan like I have been for the last 40 years.
However, the GREAT news is it's summer. The sun is shining, (yeah even up here in Seattle). I'm going to go play 18 holes of golf and then take a scenic ride on my Harley. This time of year it doesn't get dark until 10:15 PM.
Life goes on and I still have my life...
See you all in the fall.
Posted by: LakerFan in Seattle | June 23, 2007 at 11:47 AM
The sun is shining in Seattle! Enjoy that golf while you can :)
Posted by: Rick Friedman | June 23, 2007 at 11:57 AM
Jay Jay
Actually I don't read the hatred posts. Scanning down quickly, I saw TELLITLIKEITIS post and read the comments. Most of my thoughts I was dealing with the thought of hatred and its root source jealousy. One of the reasons blogs exist is to expose untruths and hypocrisy. This felt like a good time to do some exposing. Name calling and responding for like is not what I'm trying to do. Exposing this type of reasoning as wrong and objectionable was my purpose.
I would rather spend time talking about trades, drafts, FA's, etc....
Thanks for your thoughts Jay Jay.
Fatty - I have no idea what Mitch and Kobe talked about. I don't think Mitch was asking Kobe which style of Paella he liked "Seafood or Farmer" in Barcelona. Nor if he liked the "white" sangria they are famous for.
Posted by: Fatty | June 23, 2007 at 12:38 PM
Tha Show,
Fair enough. I see your points. I think we actually agree more than we disagree.
It seems the one difference in our opinion is our interpretation of Kobe's intentions.
You believe he wants to be traded, which is a fair assessment based on his comments.
I still believe that Kobe would prefer to stay in LA, and all of his tirades, including the threat to sit out, are only ploys to get what he wants (a competent FO, and/or Jim Buss, the insider, fired). Either I'm overly optimistic, or you're overly pessimistic. I guess only time will tell. For the Lakers sake, I hope I'm right.
Posted by: Mitchell | June 23, 2007 at 12:47 PM
Jorema,
It is possible for a white person to not approve of what Kobe has done for reasons other than racial. I know that is hard for you to understand, but it is a possibility. What is your excuse when a black person disapproves of Kobe? i.e. Mike WIlbon or J.A. Adande?
Posted by: exhelodrvr | June 23, 2007 at 12:49 PM
If Kobe wants to go that bad, then let him go.
Honestly, how could us Laker fans not have expected this?
Trade Kobe, resign Luke, build around Odom. Sign a top free agents next year.
It could work. It can't get worse than the .500 team Kobe has lead.
Go Lakers
Posted by: HoesB | June 23, 2007 at 01:29 PM
Notice he spoke to Kupchak and not to Jim Buss? What would have been the point, I mean isn't there a general consensus that JB is running/ruining this ship now? I think Kupchack is a puppet, but it doesn't mean that he's not doing anything positive, I just think he's doing it wrong. Actually I think he feels unsettled about the things that are going on as well, and is looking for Kobe, has looked to Kobe to do something about it. All speculation of course, I have no proof, I'm just thinking out loud.
Remember Kupchak talked to Kobe, asking him, "how do you think Socks will be in 10 years" I mean who asks that question especially to the players? I understand the coach maybe, but to the player? Correct me if I'm wrong in this instance. But I digress.
Where is Jim Buss in all this? Oh yeah talking to the radio. Yup, good upper management.
Posted by: Faith | June 23, 2007 at 01:38 PM
hariyuhu,
"I'm sure you are an expert in all matters relating to poop, smell etc."
DEFINITELY, A 24 YRS OLD LITTLE BOY WITH STATEMENTS LIKE THAT. SON GO TO YOUR ROOM AND DON'T COME OUT!
Posted by: gunner24 | June 23, 2007 at 03:09 PM
KLBeast,
"Hari “come again” acts like he’s a smart guys (a smart arse is more like it). I’ve seen guys like him all of my career, usually English educated Indians or Pakistanis from the upper “class” who are complete dorks, usually can’t play a lick of b-bal, but think they’re smart as hell working in the IT department."
PRICELESS!!!
I THINK HARI NEW NAME SHOULD BE "POINDEXTER"
Posted by: gunner24 | June 23, 2007 at 03:13 PM
The Waterboy
"Please stop calling Kobe the "BIG IRRELEVANT""
WHEN THE BIG PLUTO GETS THE LAKERS TO THE FINALS AS THE #1 BATMAN ON THE TEAM, I'LL STOP CALLING HIM THAT.
BUT RIGHT NOW, 3 YEARS WITHOUT SHAQ, NO PLAYOFFS IN THE FIRST YEAR, OUT IN THE FIRST ROUND THE NEXT 2 YEARS.
SEEMS TO ME LIKE HE'S BECOMING IRRELEVANT DON'T YOU THINK?
Posted by: gunner24 | June 23, 2007 at 03:19 PM
Can anyone guess which blogger I call the "Big Stupid"?
Posted by: Fatty | June 23, 2007 at 03:33 PM
Ex, you can't expect to be getting a rational answer to that question, can you? I mean, she clearly doesn't even read the Post from some of the comments she makes about it, but feels free to slander them all the same. It's the same thing. If you have anything to say that she sees as negative, then that person is stupid and a racist. Which is hilarious, considering she doesn't know S%$* about anybody posting here.
My guess is she'll go for the corporate sell-out thing again. Because these guys are clearly doing the bidding of their masters, who want Kobe Bryant beaten down so that he can no longer make the corporations tons of money.
Because clearly, corporations believe they make too much money...
Posted by: Michael A | June 23, 2007 at 06:49 PM
LAKERBLAKE
“They guy [kobe] wants to win and there ain't one blogger who's said he does not.”
I adamantly disagree. If kobe truly cared about winning that much, kobe would have thrown this hissy fit in 2004 BEFORE the lakers traded away shaq. Any more excused for kob?
WATERBOY,
“Please stop calling Kobe the "BIG IRRELEVANT", it's dumb. You see, the fact that you talk about him in each and every post you make, MAKES Kobe somehow relevant to you. Besides, name one player who actually got more ink than the results of an NBA finals game? In my book, that makes Kobe RELEVANT, won't you agree? Invent another nickname for your "fave" player.”
Kobe is irrelevant because what has he done in the playoffs as the #1? Didn’t kobe want shaq out so kobe can be “like mike”? Relevancy is purely subjective and in my opinion, relevancy is accomplished in the playoffs NOT SCORING A BUNCH OF POINTS.
WOW
“Man I have to say, Kobe knows how to get what he wants. I wish I had that kind of power. Everybody that is mad at Kobe is jus envious. I mean the boy worked his way into getting drafted by the Lakers. Tell me that is not power.”
I beg to differ. Kobe wants the adoration of fans like Jordan, but kobe ain’t getting it. KOBE IS THE BARRY BONDS OF B-BALL. Kobe wants to win championships “like mike”, but kobe ain’t going that either (i will add a qualifier if kobe goes to miami and plays backup to Wade, then kobe will have a chance). Did I miss something?
HARI=SAMIR
“Here's the first rule of dialog - if you want to have a "conversation", make sure you answer the questions that are asked of you.”
Yes, I know all about your type, smart-arse know-it-all lecturing me about “dialogue”. Please say something meaningful, then we can have a “dialogue”.
“Else accept the fact that you are just an opinonated ignoramus who keeps blabbering on without ever bringing anything USEFUL to the "conversation"...”
As I recall counsel, you’re the du-mass who said that kobe didn’t blast his teammates……..
“I'm sure you are an expert in all matters relating to poop, smell etc. - but those aren't things anyone else on this blog is interested in :)”
I will stipulate that I’m no expert on anything but pooping out of all orifice both literally and figuratively.
“And another thing - this is 2007. SHAQ WAS TRADED long ago. Give it up...move on...get a life...”
Were you even born when shaq arrived in LA in 1996?
Posted by: KL | June 23, 2007 at 08:37 PM
Kobe Lover Beast,
Answer my questions with FACT-based stuff, and then you'll elicit a response out of me.
Else...Keep trying :)
Posted by: hariyahu | June 24, 2007 at 12:54 AM
Gunner24,
STILL haven't figured out how to turn off CAPS LOCK yet?
Kobe Lover Beast,
There you go with the smart @r$e comments again..What is it with you both and @r$e? Is it because of all the "classicing"?
And great way to play up the race card - makes both of you look real "smart" :)
Posted by: hariyahu | June 24, 2007 at 01:01 AM
hari,
"Answer my questions with FACT-based stuff, and then you'll elicit a response out of me. Else...Keep trying :)"
please review my brief counsel. court adjourned.
"And great way to play up the race card - makes both of you look real "smart" "
hari=troy=al sharpton. i have never asserted to beeing smart, however, i will assert to my insanity.
Posted by: KL | June 24, 2007 at 09:45 AM
repost
hari,
"Answer my questions with FACT-based stuff, and then you'll elicit a response out of me. Else...Keep trying :)"
please review my brief counsel. court adjourned.
"And great way to play up the race card - makes both of you look real "smart" "
hari=troy=al sharpton. i have never asserted to beeing smart, however, i will assert to my insanity.
Posted by: KL | June 24, 2007 at 09:46 AM